For anyone wondering, they cannot build anything on American Eagle's plot. There's some weird land thing where they can take the coaster out but can never build there again. However I'm pretty sure they can RMC it without infringing upon that
As much as i agree with this video the park really needs a smooth, airtime, drawn out/long ride. The last 10 years has been nothing but short, compact, and intense. My ideal prediction would be a CCI American eagle refurbishment with new trains in 2022. The entrance area near American eagle can use a revamp, especially the que line!!!
Destination Thrills if they RMC it that queue will definitely come in handy. I remember Goliath had a huge makeshift queue and I think if they RMC Eagle that queue could handle more than Goliath. Also Gci retrack is more likely
@@DestinationThrills I'd love an axis, but our recent additions have been pretty short and intense. We probably need a more drawn out and less intense coaster to diversify the layout even more.
this being my home park, i feel like they could remove V2 and Yankee Clipper and possibly put an axis coaster that would go over the lake and it would be a tremendous experience!
I mean Gurnee is part of the Chicago Metropolitan area. So I guess it depends on what your interpretation of “just outside” is. To me that is just outside. 🤷♂️
According to rcbd, AmEagle is 4560 ft on both sides. If RMC does a Quasi Möbius, it would become the worlds longest coaster and draw in good attendance with a record breaking coaster. Iron Eagle?
Interesting thought! However, I think Six Flags would dramatically reduce the length if they RMC Eagle and even if it is Quasi Möbius, the length may still come up short of a world record. That’s just my thinking
@@DestinationThrills I have a different idea. Have GCI or Gravity Group come in, and retrack the beginning of the ride, (while Six Flags changes the station), and make the ride quasi-mobius while also making minimal changes to the rest of the ride.
I don't know how they keep packing rides in there, as the park never really has had as much space as some of the other parks, such as Cedar Point, King's Island, or Six Flags Great Adventure...
@@mdf3530 Goliath is a ground-up wooden coaster, not a hybrid. Plus, AE would be a dualing coaster. That's different enough considering Fiesta Texas also has two RMCs
trippieblue 920 ya so its ok for kings island to have two of the same rides but not SFGAm i think orion and diamondback are very similar and what makes them different is the color scheme. I think two RMC’s will be different enough
@@mattiasrobertsson4340 What I meant by that was a ride like that could fit in a lot more places in the park than just the place where V2 currently resides, so it would be a viable option.
Well Great America is my park and I have ridden every roller coaster there and love the new thrills. I got to ride max force 3 times in the 2019 season and it was amazing. I definitely agree with your theory on keeping American Eagle considering it is one of the oldest ones in the park. Yes it might be a little bit bumpy at some parts but it is a lot of fun to ride and the historical value definitely will keep it running for as long as they can. I would be sad though if they took out Vertical Velocity because it is one of my favorite rides but then again considering in the summer I go once a week at least to Great America I can say it does break down a lot.
My top picks would be: S&S Axis, Mack Power Splash, and RMC Raptor (Jersey Devil clone) Removing V2 and Yankee Clipper would leave enough space for a Mack Power Splash or RMC Raptor (Jersey Devil clone). Removing Buccaneer Battle and relocating the three Hometown Park kid's rides would leave enough space for the S&S Axis prototype layout on the spec sheet.
I think an RMC hybrid is likely. this would be like the B&M hypers and gigas in the same park, and that is CF. their business model makes a lot more sense than SF so I wouldn't count this out. A duelling RMC is nothing like Goliath and RMC's designs now focus more on outerbanks and inverted overbanks than the typical ones like Goliath. the only similarity would be the trains.
Lessardo if I owned a really big park I would have a small dueling RMC like twisted colossus with a launch like lightning rod and a big one like steel vengeance, but for SFGA it’s just to much to have 2 RMC hybrids.
The difference between a B&M Hyper and Giga is quite noticeable. Hypers are longer, have a L-shaped layout but Gigas are taller, shorter and have a different layout. RMC themselves have stated that the Topper Track and I-Box are the same things, except one is wooden and the other is steel
First thing to note, an out and back racing RMC hybrid is very different from a RMC giant twister wooden coaster. The out and back would focus more on airtime than inversions like Goliath. I don't get why people keep comparing the two. Second thing, the Eagle needs whole parts if it its structure redone. That's whole reason why they can't race it anymore. It wouldn't be a simple retrack it would be tearing huge sections out of the coaster and redoing. Tons of money right there. At that point you might as well go with an I box conversion. Third thing, they were going to convert it to an Iron horse track. But they went witu Goliath instead. My guess would be because at the time, Six flags didn't want to fork out the money. Now after seeing west coast racers, I believe it is possible. And the issue with a lot of your predictions is space. There is literally no more space for the park to expand without removing an attraction. Even more of a reason that an RMC conversion is more likely.
Love your videos! Would be great to see a next coaster video for Six Flags Great Adventure! I know they’re just adding Jersey Devil but I’m curious to see what you think the park would do next. Especially considering they’re running out of space to add more coasters.
Thank you so much for the comment! Glad your enjoying them. I am definitely doing a Next Coaster video for Great Adventure. Of course like you mentioned, I am going to wait for Jersey Devil Coaster to open. But I have it included in my preliminary list for Season 2!
I would say it needs a retracked but the park doesn't even take care of it. The ride itself is not in good shape and is an eye sore .That would be really prime land for a custom Raptor
They can’t build a new rollercoaster on American Eagles plot because of the land or something so if they took out the American eagle they wouldn’t be able to put something there but they could RMC the american eagle but they can’t replace it with another coaster
Either it's going to be a GCI Steel retrack (never been done before, and it still satisfies the want for an American Eagle retrack) or an RMC conversion that would try and get a few records for the re-branding like "A legend reborn" or something for American Eagle as it was a record breaking coaster when it started its life.
I also think that a RMC Raptor or Axis is the most likely. RMC American Eagle not so much. Apparently, American Eagle was in big trouble in 1999. Residents who live near the ride complained about noise issues. In the end, the city of Gurnee acted that American Eagle could be preserved, *but no new ride would be allowed to be constructed 500ft *(or around 400, not sure)* from Washington Street*. This poses a problem, since, would a RMC Conversion count as a new coaster? I mean, it probably would. So the city would probably stop Six Flags from doing it due to this agreement. Now, maybe a RMC Conversion isn't counted as a new ride, but I'm not sure, I'm not a judge. But I think it's extremely unlikely it will be RMCed. I think a retracking by RMC could be likely. Something like what they did with Tremors at Silverwood.
I think that's the big question. Would RMC American Eagle be a new coaster or not, legally? If it would be, that probably increases the chance of them going it. If it wouldn't be, then that definitely lowers the chance to nearly nothing. It's certainly something Six Flags could lobby for and have a reasonable chance of winning.
I know this probably won't happen, but I would LOVE to see some sort of new-gen Vekoma in place of either the Demon or V2. Maybe a launched invert would be cool, but an Axis would also be pretty dope, too. Ultimately, I think the thing this park needs is a grade-A airtime machine, though. Most of their airtime-based coasters aren't really all that modern, so I think the park would benefit from filling out the full airtime intensity spectrum.
Vertical Velocity Is most likely not going to get removed though because it's actually more popular than even Raging Bull the line is consistently over 45 minutes of wait time. Raging Bull is usually only around a 15 - 20-minute wait when it's only running two trains. And the thing is If people didn't like V2 you wouldn't see that much of the queue filled for the entire day. Another thing to point out is that the only rides at the park that are gentle enough for their younger audience that is just getting into the 48" height range (Excluding anything that would be more intense for younger riders) are American Eagle, Viper, Batman Dark Knight, and Whizzer. If they removed/RMC'ed either of their wooden coasters, it would cause a lot of community backlash due to the lack of rides that are at the park for the younger audiences. In my opinion, I think Demon Is going to be the next rollercoaster to be replaced, in which case it would probably be installed as a hand-me-down coaster at a different park, and there's a there are numerous coaster models that could fit there, but what I think is more likely is Great America reaching out to Vekoma to completely re-track the layout and run the newer Vekoma trains on it. I agree that Eagle, though people don't like it as much as they used to, will remain at its current state for as long as they can possibly keep it running safely. I say this because a lot of people who go to Great America come from the Chicagoland area, so as you are driving down the highway, the first thing you see, other than the 300-foot tall tower rides, is Eagle. if they were to change it in any way it would just look wrong if you saw something else in place of Eagle. And Since Great America was bought by Six Flags, and there is nothing else really in Gurnee, Eagle has basically become one of the most iconic things in Gurnee Illinois.
I think the rmc is way more viable. The coaster literally can't run both trains at once, because the supports are too weak. Also if they make it into an rmc Mobius coaster, then it will be the longest rmc
Sfga has four woodies if you count Little Dipper. Great vid and personally I would love to see American Eagle either completely left alone to remain a part of park history or to have rmc make a bigger better version of twisted colossus but less focused on interacting with the other side (the second half) and more overbanked turns and big inversions and airtime similar to the first half of steel vengeance unless they can manage to get it dueling every time.
Your Axis argument makes the most sense as to why they would make that investment over the other options and I think having an actual prototype build can help give confidence since building a model that is new but has a physical example that it works is less worrisome than not even having a prototype. And they have the relationship with S&S that Cedar Fair doesn't, making it feel like it's going to be something more unique to their chain as well. I also think they'll look at whether or not Jersey Devil increased attendance for GaAdv when it comes to that option. But like...bring something to SF over GA please, we need a launch. T_T
You are forgetting that SFs need to spend money and finish that water ride for the water park. And with the park closed this past season I'm sure they are in no shape to add a new coaster in 2021 not to mention that covid is still a problem
I wanna beg my Dad to go here someday. This park is a really good Six Flags Park. They don’t slow down with additions and they don’t go too extra or bad with this park. They deserve the recognition. Hope to visit this park. :))))
2021: American Eagle Closed, V2 Relocated to Great Escape, Darien Lake, or Frontier City 2022: The Great American Eagle (RMC Eagle) 2023: New family area in V2s spot, (probably kiddie coaster to buff coaster count) 2024: Goliath relocated to Six Flags St. Louis, or Six Flags America 2025/2026: New wooden rollercoaster in Goliath's spot
Kings Island is definitely getting a next coaster video. However, I am waiting until after my trip out there this Summer so unfortunately I wouldn’t say “soon”.
Racing raptors!! The world's first double single rail racing roller coaster. 😱 I have a gut feeling that the first Axis wouldn't be at GAm, but that doesn't make it any less likely. I don't necessarily agree that the presence of Goliath lowers the chances of an RMC conversion. You might be right about preservation, though. Time will tell! I... kind of want a large scale launched Premier coaster with a custom layout. Another great breakdown and prediction video, keep it up with this awesome series!
@@DestinationThrills And if they went for the Gwazi approach then American Eagle might have enough structure for them to try for the tallest hybrid in the world. So they certainly have options. But I do think you've sold me on the S&S Axis coaster here. I just really hope that they get something of good length; SFGAm coasters just always feel lacking in either intensity or length (or partially in both), and I really don't like to see this trend continue. If you ranked Six Flags parks by their best coaster, I think there's an argument for Great America not being in the top half. Although so far I've only been to Great America and the not-great America.
Great Video! Could you do Kennywood at some time down the road, it’s very up to debate on whether they should get another intense roller coaster again or a family coaster next
I also think that Axis is a great bet. But the need to do something to fix American Eagle is something they will need to contend with. So my vote is either an Axis of big GCI overhaul of American thunder. I just don't see them RMC'ing it with Goliath already in the park.
Six Flags Great America needs to save their money for the next 5-6-7 years and come out with a banger to replace American Eagle or built out another part of the park. They should set their sites on a record breaking B&M or Intamin marvel. "The Midwest Spirit" I would call it. Go back to the basics. Height, Distance and Speed. After the success of this one, they can add a spinny chair coaster. :)
RMC American Eagle isn’t going to happen. Neither is a new coaster in that spot because of an agreement they have with the city of Gurnee. It specifiaclly states that no new build can replace it because of its proximity to a residential area.
This is my prediction: 2021: Axis Coaster 2024: Rmc eagle or gci I made these because this is my home park and i think this is most likely based on the past few years.
S&S Axis would be good, however, I think it'd be a competition on which SF park could get it first. I'd likely anticipate it coming down to either Six Flags Over Georgia and/or Six Flags Magic Mountain getting 1st S&S Axis. Premier Rides coaster, I could see the removal of Vertical Velocity happening. Skyrocket II would make the most sense due to its compact layout. If Six Flags Great America went the West Coast Racers route, SF and Premier would have to get creative with layout. RMC I-Box conversion, I too don't see American Eagle getting RMC'd, and GCI doing retracking work to extend its lease on life. I'd anticipate Viper being a more ideal candidate, however, it'd likely be a clone of SFOG's Twisted Cyclone. Six Flags St. Louis has The Boss, which is rumored for I-Box conversion. RMC Raptor, I could see SFGAM going the Jersey Devil route. Mack Power Splash, if Six Flags Over Texas' new Aquaman coaster is a success, it'll be interesting to see whether SF wishes to order a couple more.
Totally on track with my thinking! I'd add Six Flags Fiesta Texas to mix of parks in the race to get that first Axis as well. Mack Power Splash was on my mind when outlining the video but I put the other three options ahead of it because Hurricane Harbor is getting a water coaster this year. But I think it could happen in the future at some point after Six Flags St. Louis gets one. Thank you for leaving your thoughts!
Another good coaster option... If Six Flags should renew its relationship with Gerstlauer, I could see Eurofighter (cheaper version of B&M dive coaster) being a good fit for SFGAM, or they could go with Zamperla version (along the lines of Luna Park at Coney Island's Thunderbolt coaster). Flat rides... Hopefully SFGAM decides to install a 24-story SkyScreamer ride at some point. Another recent development with SFSL is the closure of their Tidal Wave ride, which could be fueling speculation of them getting RMC Raptor (likely Wonder Woman/Railblazer clone) or Mack Power Splash.
I have tons a footage from Holiday World and I originally was going to do one for them in this series but I’m kinda stuck on coaster options and when the next coaster could come. I need to do more research and digging 🕵️♂️
5:35 Dont do cedar fair dirty like that they don’t clone their coasters like six flags does they just build the same model a few years later at a different park that crushes the records on the previous coaster installed
Rmc American egale with a launch like lightning rod😂😂 I think the axxis is the most likely And depends on the financial implication of the coronvirus But this vid was 3 mths ago still a good vid though
I disagree with American eagle I think it’s more of a 20% chance because even if they retrack it still won’t duel the reason why it won’t duel is because of structure. And also 2020 is when they had to renew the trains so it would be better if the rmc. Look at twisted colossus it doesn’t break a lot of even.
SFGAm isn’t necessarily focused on getting the first of a kind, but certainly variety is key. What SFGAm really has to work off of is how much space they have to play with. They’re 100% developed, and the vast majority of their coasters are compact with small footprints. Only the three coasters built at the beginning (Eagle, Whizzer, Demon) have bigger footprints. That’s the reason why Raging Bull is a hyper twister, not a regular B&M hyper. If anything BIG is happening, it’ll be to American Eagle, whether it’s RMC’d or GCI’d. They don’t race trains anymore because of the structure and the ride is really rough. Otherwise they’re removing one or two other rides to build something smaller.
I will say, they mostly fixed the smoothness this year. They got the thing, at least on the blue side, to be smoother than coasters like Demon and Viper. It's comparable to Goliath now.
Albert Sancho I wouldn’t be suprised if Demon is the next to go. It’s still one of the more popular coasters (last time I was there it had a 45 minute wait) but it is almost as old as I am. Seeing as how it was an opening day attraction (it was originally an Arrow corkscrew before it and its sister coaster at California’s Great America were lengthened into loopers), I think that they are going to try to keep it until the park’s 50th anniversary in 2026.
I only see RMC American Eagle being a thing Everyone said RMC Gwazi would never be a thing and look what happened These rumors were happening before Goliath came So its just feeling more possible that Six Flags Great America will be the only park with 2 RMC coasters
@@DestinationThrills yep, im glad too. its about time sfstl got a new coaster, but ive heard rumors of a mack powersplash, which i wish wont happen, but a rmc raptor (maybe custom, maybe not) would be wonderful
RMC American Eagle is extremely likely as we know they need to replace the PTC trains soon as they’ve reached the end of their service life. I would expect them to give it the iron horse treatment instead of buying new trains as it would grab people’s attention and most likely bring a better return on investment
This is my home park i was there when it was first open as Marriott's Great America this is for who ever the CEO is stop being Cheap you get what you pay for yeah u have putting a coaster every few years but the price for tickets food etc are ridiculous and with everything going up like gas and travel you need to give meaning the public what it's wants RMC the Eagle haven't you ever heard if you build it they will come we are really sick of the 5 sec Rollercoasters and the clone ones also all of your parks look the same beside of a few rides it doesn't fill like we ever left I'm not going to another six Flags and ride the joker, Batman , Superman, the big. Giant looping Carnival ride that you call a coaster but it's not or Flash then y'all wonder why your Stock has dropped this is the reason now some will argue hey Great. America is a nice park yeah it is but the only way you will see better stock price and not lose Revenue is to stop being Cheap think big because No matter who sits in the CEO seat you will never ever beat Cedar Point or any other park for that matter go Big Or Go Home Six Flags oh and get rid if the Demon please and If you add a new flat ride please add Giant pendulum ride magic mountain has one and does a few other six flag parks we want bigger ride not the small version the ones this needed to be said
This park is the most profitable out of the whole chain. It will continue to have regualar investments like Great Adventure and Magic Mountain. I would also argue it's one of the most complete. It just lacks that stand out coaster.
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For anyone wondering, they cannot build anything on American Eagle's plot. There's some weird land thing where they can take the coaster out but can never build there again. However I'm pretty sure they can RMC it without infringing upon that
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As much as i agree with this video the park really needs a smooth, airtime, drawn out/long ride. The last 10 years has been nothing but short, compact, and intense. My ideal prediction would be a CCI American eagle refurbishment with new trains in 2022. The entrance area near American eagle can use a revamp, especially the que line!!!
Ya, can we like shorten that queue to Eagle?! LOL
Destination Thrills if they RMC it that queue will definitely come in handy. I remember Goliath had a huge makeshift queue and I think if they RMC Eagle that queue could handle more than Goliath. Also Gci retrack is more likely
I agree. The problem is they just don’t have the space for it.
@@DestinationThrills yes please! that cue is nuts
GCI will likely retrack it
Axis Coaster would be best bet, be the first in the SF family to get one.
I really think Great America would be a perfect home for the Axis Coaster even if they have to go with a short layout!
@@DestinationThrills I'd love an axis, but our recent additions have been pretty short and intense. We probably need a more drawn out and less intense coaster to diversify the layout even more.
Completely agree! Something like Jersey Devil or WCR would fill that need! Both look to have a pretty fulfilling layout.
I really hope don't clone it though!!
@@Demon-POT That’s probably a bit too much to ask for as it’s coming from Six Flags.
this being my home park, i feel like they could remove V2 and Yankee Clipper and possibly put an axis coaster that would go over the lake and it would be a tremendous experience!
An Axis coaster would look really cool on the lake!
Take out loggers run.
I love v2
i hope not, V2 is great
The rapids ride was closed all season so we might get one in that area
"Just outside the city of Chicago" is a little misleading. It's more like halfway between Chicago and Milwaukee
I mean Gurnee is part of the Chicago Metropolitan area. So I guess it depends on what your interpretation of “just outside” is. To me that is just outside. 🤷♂️
@@DestinationThrills It's 45 mins to an hour from the northern city limits
Jason D You can get there in about 20 minutes from the Northwest Side of the city in moderate traffic
@@mdf3530 Im on the northwest side and i go every week. The commute is 40 mins minimum
Jason D Take the Tri-State not the Edens
I love that you clarified a raptor is more intense than “whizzers”
😂😂 you never know man
so you're telling me that there is a 45% chance SFGAm's next coaster is awesome
“The park has seen no signs of slowing down”
Covid-19: no
I know it’s so sad how we might not be in the top tier of six flags anymore
they won’t retrack eagle because it has issues with structural integrity. so they will either tear it down or rmc it
According to rcbd, AmEagle is 4560 ft on both sides. If RMC does a Quasi Möbius, it would become the worlds longest coaster and draw in good attendance with a record breaking coaster. Iron Eagle?
Interesting thought! However, I think Six Flags would dramatically reduce the length if they RMC Eagle and even if it is Quasi Möbius, the length may still come up short of a world record. That’s just my thinking
@@DestinationThrills I have a different idea. Have GCI or Gravity Group come in, and retrack the beginning of the ride, (while Six Flags changes the station), and make the ride quasi-mobius while also making minimal changes to the rest of the ride.
That would be interesting, especially since they rarely run both sides.
I don't know how they keep packing rides in there, as the park never really has had as much space as some of the other parks, such as Cedar Point, King's Island, or Six Flags Great Adventure...
I think they should definitely go with Axis.
American Eagle iron horse is much more likely than a premier rides launch coaster. They already had plans to do it before Goliath
Exactly I would give it a fifty percent chance btw great America is my home park
Then tney built Goliath. Having two RMC hybrid coasters is redundant.
@@mdf3530 Goliath is a ground-up wooden coaster, not a hybrid. Plus, AE would be a dualing coaster. That's different enough considering Fiesta Texas also has two RMCs
@@trippieblue9207 exactly
trippieblue 920 ya so its ok for kings island to have two of the same rides but not SFGAm i think orion and diamondback are very similar and what makes them different is the color scheme. I think two RMC’s will be different enough
Something like sandys blasting bronco whould fit inside v2:s footprint and it whould be more unicue than a skyrocket2
that's a lot smaller of a ride than Vertical Velocity.
MICROMORON IM sure intamin can make it bigger and maybe ad spinning cars or just backwards facing trains!!!!
@@mattiasrobertsson4340 What I meant by that was a ride like that could fit in a lot more places in the park than just the place where V2 currently resides, so it would be a viable option.
Thats true but i still think that it should be in the spot of v2.
Well Great America is my park and I have ridden every roller coaster there and love the new thrills. I got to ride max force 3 times in the 2019 season and it was amazing. I definitely agree with your theory on keeping American Eagle considering it is one of the oldest ones in the park. Yes it might be a little bit bumpy at some parts but it is a lot of fun to ride and the historical value definitely will keep it running for as long as they can. I would be sad though if they took out Vertical Velocity because it is one of my favorite rides but then again considering in the summer I go once a week at least to Great America I can say it does break down a lot.
Fangirl Gen also the blue side is seldom open. As for v2, I doubt they would take it out because of space and the water. Not much could fit there
My top picks would be: S&S Axis, Mack Power Splash, and RMC Raptor (Jersey Devil clone)
Removing V2 and Yankee Clipper would leave enough space for a Mack Power Splash or RMC Raptor (Jersey Devil clone). Removing Buccaneer Battle and relocating the three Hometown Park kid's rides would leave enough space for the S&S Axis prototype layout on the spec sheet.
I think an RMC hybrid is likely. this would be like the B&M hypers and gigas in the same park, and that is CF. their business model makes a lot more sense than SF so I wouldn't count this out. A duelling RMC is nothing like Goliath and RMC's designs now focus more on outerbanks and inverted overbanks than the typical ones like Goliath. the only similarity would be the trains.
Lessardo if I owned a really big park I would have a small dueling RMC like twisted colossus with a launch like lightning rod and a big one like steel vengeance, but for SFGA it’s just to much to have 2 RMC hybrids.
The difference between a B&M Hyper and Giga is quite noticeable.
Hypers are longer, have a L-shaped layout but Gigas are taller, shorter and have a different layout.
RMC themselves have stated that the Topper Track and I-Box are the same things, except one is wooden and the other is steel
First thing to note, an out and back racing RMC hybrid is very different from a RMC giant twister wooden coaster. The out and back would focus more on airtime than inversions like Goliath. I don't get why people keep comparing the two. Second thing, the Eagle needs whole parts if it its structure redone. That's whole reason why they can't race it anymore. It wouldn't be a simple retrack it would be tearing huge sections out of the coaster and redoing. Tons of money right there. At that point you might as well go with an I box conversion. Third thing, they were going to convert it to an Iron horse track. But they went witu Goliath instead. My guess would be because at the time, Six flags didn't want to fork out the money. Now after seeing west coast racers, I believe it is possible. And the issue with a lot of your predictions is space. There is literally no more space for the park to expand without removing an attraction. Even more of a reason that an RMC conversion is more likely.
We have five wood coasters or four depending on who you ask. Little Dipper counts!!
Love your videos! Would be great to see a next coaster video for Six Flags Great Adventure! I know they’re just adding Jersey Devil but I’m curious to see what you think the park would do next. Especially considering they’re running out of space to add more coasters.
Thank you so much for the comment! Glad your enjoying them. I am definitely doing a Next Coaster video for Great Adventure. Of course like you mentioned, I am going to wait for Jersey Devil Coaster to open. But I have it included in my preliminary list for Season 2!
They need to take out American Eagle and put a huge coaster in its place. That part of the park is really sketchy and needs a revamp.
They need to do what they did with Tremor
@Patrick Cadiz I'd say they RMC it, BUT they make it a close-to-identical layout but with better airtime and stick with no inversions
I would say it needs a retracked but the park doesn't even take care of it. The ride itself is not in good shape and is an eye sore .That would be really prime land for a custom Raptor
They can’t build a new rollercoaster on American Eagles plot because of the land or something so if they took out the American eagle they wouldn’t be able to put something there but they could RMC the american eagle but they can’t replace it with another coaster
@Patrick Cadiz It would need to be redone not just retracked. The structure's integrity is bad.
Either it's going to be a GCI Steel retrack (never been done before, and it still satisfies the want for an American Eagle retrack) or an RMC conversion that would try and get a few records for the re-branding like "A legend reborn" or something for American Eagle as it was a record breaking coaster when it started its life.
I also think that a RMC Raptor or Axis is the most likely. RMC American Eagle not so much.
Apparently, American Eagle was in big trouble in 1999. Residents who live near the ride complained about noise issues. In the end, the city of Gurnee acted that American Eagle could be preserved, *but no new ride would be allowed to be constructed 500ft *(or around 400, not sure)* from Washington Street*. This poses a problem, since, would a RMC Conversion count as a new coaster? I mean, it probably would. So the city would probably stop Six Flags from doing it due to this agreement.
Now, maybe a RMC Conversion isn't counted as a new ride, but I'm not sure, I'm not a judge. But I think it's extremely unlikely it will be RMCed.
I think a retracking by RMC could be likely. Something like what they did with Tremors at Silverwood.
sheeple GCI or Gravity Group would be good too
I think that's the big question. Would RMC American Eagle be a new coaster or not, legally? If it would be, that probably increases the chance of them going it. If it wouldn't be, then that definitely lowers the chance to nearly nothing. It's certainly something Six Flags could lobby for and have a reasonable chance of winning.
Retract american eagle and give it gci trains with a new paint job of the ride and I will be satisfied.
I know this probably won't happen, but I would LOVE to see some sort of new-gen Vekoma in place of either the Demon or V2. Maybe a launched invert would be cool, but an Axis would also be pretty dope, too. Ultimately, I think the thing this park needs is a grade-A airtime machine, though. Most of their airtime-based coasters aren't really all that modern, so I think the park would benefit from filling out the full airtime intensity spectrum.
I think many US coaster enthusiasts want to see a next gen Vekoma come to the states!
Vertical Velocity Is most likely not going to get removed though because it's actually more popular than even Raging Bull the line is consistently over 45 minutes of wait time. Raging Bull is usually only around a 15 - 20-minute wait when it's only running two trains. And the thing is If people didn't like V2 you wouldn't see that much of the queue filled for the entire day. Another thing to point out is that the only rides at the park that are gentle enough for their younger audience that is just getting into the 48" height range (Excluding anything that would be more intense for younger riders) are American Eagle, Viper, Batman Dark Knight, and Whizzer. If they removed/RMC'ed either of their wooden coasters, it would cause a lot of community backlash due to the lack of rides that are at the park for the younger audiences. In my opinion, I think Demon Is going to be the next rollercoaster to be replaced, in which case it would probably be installed as a hand-me-down coaster at a different park, and there's a there are numerous coaster models that could fit there, but what I think is more likely is Great America reaching out to Vekoma to completely re-track the layout and run the newer Vekoma trains on it. I agree that Eagle, though people don't like it as much as they used to, will remain at its current state for as long as they can possibly keep it running safely. I say this because a lot of people who go to Great America come from the Chicagoland area, so as you are driving down the highway, the first thing you see, other than the 300-foot tall tower rides, is Eagle. if they were to change it in any way it would just look wrong if you saw something else in place of Eagle. And Since Great America was bought by Six Flags, and there is nothing else really in Gurnee, Eagle has basically become one of the most iconic things in Gurnee Illinois.
i would love getting the axis ride. SFGA is my home park & a new first ever ride to add to our collection will just keep SFGA more legendary.
I think the rmc is way more viable. The coaster literally can't run both trains at once, because the supports are too weak. Also if they make it into an rmc Mobius coaster, then it will be the longest rmc
Sfga has four woodies if you count Little Dipper. Great vid and personally I would love to see American Eagle either completely left alone to remain a part of park history or to have rmc make a bigger better version of twisted colossus but less focused on interacting with the other side (the second half) and more overbanked turns and big inversions and airtime similar to the first half of steel vengeance unless they can manage to get it dueling every time.
I know *face palm* how could I forget Little Dip. Glad you enjoyed the video though! I wonder how much Covid will impact some of what I predicted.
We don't have 3 wooden coasters, we have 5. The American Eagle counts as 2, and you forgot our Kiddie Coaster, the Little Dipper
hey six flags great america is my home park you can get a good view of it as well as Great wolf lodge on the highway XD
Your Axis argument makes the most sense as to why they would make that investment over the other options and I think having an actual prototype build can help give confidence since building a model that is new but has a physical example that it works is less worrisome than not even having a prototype. And they have the relationship with S&S that Cedar Fair doesn't, making it feel like it's going to be something more unique to their chain as well. I also think they'll look at whether or not Jersey Devil increased attendance for GaAdv when it comes to that option.
But like...bring something to SF over GA please, we need a launch. T_T
You are forgetting that SFs need to spend money and finish that water ride for the water park. And with the park closed this past season I'm sure they are in no shape to add a new coaster in 2021 not to mention that covid is still a problem
I wanna beg my Dad to go here someday. This park is a really good Six Flags Park. They don’t slow down with additions and they don’t go too extra or bad with this park. They deserve the recognition. Hope to visit this park. :))))
When it comes to coaster collections Great America is one of my favorites.
It’s great!
2021: American Eagle Closed, V2 Relocated to Great Escape, Darien Lake, or Frontier City
2022: The Great American Eagle (RMC Eagle)
2023: New family area in V2s spot, (probably kiddie coaster to buff coaster count)
2024: Goliath relocated to Six Flags St. Louis, or Six Flags America
2025/2026: New wooden rollercoaster in Goliath's spot
NO GOLIATH BETTER STAY
Goliath isn't going anywhere lol
goliath is the best and one of the most loved coasters in the park why would it be relocated
Are you going to do Kings Island next coaster soon?
Kings Island is definitely getting a next coaster video. However, I am waiting until after my trip out there this Summer so unfortunately I wouldn’t say “soon”.
I miss Six Flags
Same 😔
Please do Six Flags Magic Mountain next.
I am interested to hear your speculations on what will come next.
Racing raptors!! The world's first double single rail racing roller coaster. 😱
I have a gut feeling that the first Axis wouldn't be at GAm, but that doesn't make it any less likely.
I don't necessarily agree that the presence of Goliath lowers the chances of an RMC conversion. You might be right about preservation, though. Time will tell! I... kind of want a large scale launched Premier coaster with a custom layout.
Another great breakdown and prediction video, keep it up with this awesome series!
Thank you!! I’m excited for the American Eagle video you got coming!
This park is defiantly your home park you make the park seem god like
Lol actually it is Six Flags STL!
You can tell it’s not his home park because he thinks gurnee is just outside the city.
JANUARY: "Six Flags needs a bit of a turn-around as the company has had a dismal start to 2020."
...yeah, July's making January seem like a Godsend.
An RMC of American Eagle would give them the tallest and fastest dueling coaster in the world.
I don’t know if anyone has made that point yet.
I didn’t think about that possible record. Something Six Flags would claim for sure
@@DestinationThrills And if they went for the Gwazi approach then American Eagle might have enough structure for them to try for the tallest hybrid in the world. So they certainly have options.
But I do think you've sold me on the S&S Axis coaster here. I just really hope that they get something of good length; SFGAm coasters just always feel lacking in either intensity or length (or partially in both), and I really don't like to see this trend continue. If you ranked Six Flags parks by their best coaster, I think there's an argument for Great America not being in the top half. Although so far I've only been to Great America and the not-great America.
Great video! Can you do magic mountain?
Magic Mountain is definitely a park I want to do one of these videos for! Might squeeze it in this season or save for season 2
Great Video! Could you do Kennywood at some time down the road, it’s very up to debate on whether they should get another intense roller coaster again or a family coaster next
I’m heading to Kennywood this year! I’m going to collect footage for a Next Coaster video.
I also think that Axis is a great bet. But the need to do something to fix American Eagle is something they will need to contend with. So my vote is either an Axis of big GCI overhaul of American thunder. I just don't see them RMC'ing it with Goliath already in the park.
Just imagine if they replaced the eagle with a T. rex Giga with 3 inversions. That would be a dream come true
They should try to expand
Six Flags Great America needs to save their money for the next 5-6-7 years and come out with a banger to replace American Eagle or built out another part of the park. They should set their sites on a record breaking B&M or Intamin marvel. "The Midwest Spirit" I would call it. Go back to the basics. Height, Distance and Speed. After the success of this one, they can add a spinny chair coaster. :)
As my home park, I would love to see either a raptor, T-Rex, or axis coaster
I would like SFGA to add the Raptor as their next coaster
I think a Raptor is most likely. Its a safe bet and doesn't take up much room... and clearly its in SF's cost range.
bit late but im hoping they remove demon and replace it with an axis coaster
RMC American Eagle isn’t going to happen. Neither is a new coaster in that spot because of an agreement they have with the city of Gurnee. It specifiaclly states that no new build can replace it because of its proximity to a residential area.
I bet Six flags can probably lobby and win to get something to replace Eagle. Especially with the park paying a large amount of taxes into the town.
I lives in Chicago so every year me and my parent went to six flag alot
I thought they would get an RMC conversion of American Eagle
The axis coaster would be cool, but being new, I feel it would be short and simple
This is my prediction:
2021: Axis Coaster
2024: Rmc eagle or gci
I made these because this is my home park and i think this is most likely based on the past few years.
I’ve been there 12 times and bruh great America is the best literally every year they have something new!
I think they’ll remove buccaneer battle for an axis
American eagle would need an entirely new helix
I want a giga coaster or a bigger b and m hyper here so bad
S&S Axis would be good, however, I think it'd be a competition on which SF park could get it first. I'd likely anticipate it coming down to either Six Flags Over Georgia and/or Six Flags Magic Mountain getting 1st S&S Axis.
Premier Rides coaster, I could see the removal of Vertical Velocity happening. Skyrocket II would make the most sense due to its compact layout. If Six Flags Great America went the West Coast Racers route, SF and Premier would have to get creative with layout.
RMC I-Box conversion, I too don't see American Eagle getting RMC'd, and GCI doing retracking work to extend its lease on life. I'd anticipate Viper being a more ideal candidate, however, it'd likely be a clone of SFOG's Twisted Cyclone. Six Flags St. Louis has The Boss, which is rumored for I-Box conversion.
RMC Raptor, I could see SFGAM going the Jersey Devil route.
Mack Power Splash, if Six Flags Over Texas' new Aquaman coaster is a success, it'll be interesting to see whether SF wishes to order a couple more.
Totally on track with my thinking! I'd add Six Flags Fiesta Texas to mix of parks in the race to get that first Axis as well. Mack Power Splash was on my mind when outlining the video but I put the other three options ahead of it because Hurricane Harbor is getting a water coaster this year. But I think it could happen in the future at some point after Six Flags St. Louis gets one. Thank you for leaving your thoughts!
Another good coaster option...
If Six Flags should renew its relationship with Gerstlauer, I could see Eurofighter (cheaper version of B&M dive coaster) being a good fit for SFGAM, or they could go with Zamperla version (along the lines of Luna Park at Coney Island's Thunderbolt coaster).
Flat rides... Hopefully SFGAM decides to install a 24-story SkyScreamer ride at some point.
Another recent development with SFSL is the closure of their Tidal Wave ride, which could be fueling speculation of them getting RMC Raptor (likely Wonder Woman/Railblazer clone) or Mack Power Splash.
I think sfmm, and sfga will both get Jersey Devil Clones
You should do Holiday World next!
I have tons a footage from Holiday World and I originally was going to do one for them in this series but I’m kinda stuck on coaster options and when the next coaster could come. I need to do more research and digging 🕵️♂️
5:35 Dont do cedar fair dirty like that they don’t clone their coasters like six flags does they just build the same model a few years later at a different park that crushes the records on the previous coaster installed
If they remove V2 before Eagle I'm gonna be piiiissssssed
American eagle is a racing coaster not a dueling coaster.
Rmc American egale with a launch like lightning rod😂😂
I think the axxis is the most likely
And depends on the financial implication of the coronvirus
But this vid was 3 mths ago still a good vid though
I disagree with American eagle I think it’s more of a 20% chance because even if they retrack it still won’t duel the reason why it won’t duel is because of structure. And also 2020 is when they had to renew the trains so it would be better if the rmc. Look at twisted colossus it doesn’t break a lot of even.
We should get a dive coaster
Funny you should say that. They were going to install one back in 2007 but then the crash happened.
SFGAm isn’t necessarily focused on getting the first of a kind, but certainly variety is key. What SFGAm really has to work off of is how much space they have to play with. They’re 100% developed, and the vast majority of their coasters are compact with small footprints. Only the three coasters built at the beginning (Eagle, Whizzer, Demon) have bigger footprints. That’s the reason why Raging Bull is a hyper twister, not a regular B&M hyper.
If anything BIG is happening, it’ll be to American Eagle, whether it’s RMC’d or GCI’d. They don’t race trains anymore because of the structure and the ride is really rough. Otherwise they’re removing one or two other rides to build something smaller.
I will say, they mostly fixed the smoothness this year. They got the thing, at least on the blue side, to be smoother than coasters like Demon and Viper. It's comparable to Goliath now.
@@noname117spore the structure is still bad though
Magic Mountain next!
A lot of requests for Magic Mountain!
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SFGA's sister park is in greater need of a hyper coaster than SFGA
We have a hyper and the parks are owned by seperate companies so that makes no sense
@@samplautz5586 tbh raging bull is a bad hyper compared to mako or nitro
And you're point?
@@samplautz5586 i meant that cga needs a hyper over sfga's need for any new coaster
@@NorCalCoasterMedia ok I'm just saying that comparing hypers has nothing to do with cga needing one. And I would agree cga does need a hyper
Sfga nj got a new coaster called the Jersey devil coaster
POV:You are here after they added the rmc single rail
POV:You are here after no new roller coaster has been added after Max Force
They're going to do something with American Eagle either this year or next. It's getting to old.
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Get rid of demon replace it with a b&m floorless coaster and redo the ranging bull.
Albert Sancho I wouldn’t be suprised if Demon is the next to go. It’s still one of the more popular coasters (last time I was there it had a 45 minute wait) but it is almost as old as I am. Seeing as how it was an opening day attraction (it was originally an Arrow corkscrew before it and its sister coaster at California’s Great America were lengthened into loopers), I think that they are going to try to keep it until the park’s 50th anniversary in 2026.
"Just outside Chicago"
You mean like 90 minutes away??
It's like 40 minutes. And Gurnee is considered a Chicago suburb
I only see RMC American Eagle being a thing
Everyone said RMC Gwazi would never be a thing and look what happened
These rumors were happening before Goliath came
So its just feeling more possible that Six Flags Great America will be the only park with 2 RMC coasters
Six Flags Fiesta Texas has 2 RMCs
Hopefully the first trex
1:49 where is Mardi Gras
Angie Bielski not a roller coaster
you should do an episode of this on sfstl if you havent already
edit: nvm
Unfortunately I did it on my old crappy mic :(. Glad you found it though!
@@DestinationThrills yep, im glad too. its about time sfstl got a new coaster, but ive heard rumors of a mack powersplash, which i wish wont happen, but a rmc raptor (maybe custom, maybe not) would be wonderful
RMC Raptor is the dream! We will be keeping an eye on the Tidal Wave demolition site when the park opens.
@@DestinationThrills thanks! if sfstl gets a raptor itll probably be my first since i live 3 hours from there and could make a day trip.
look my Six flags :D
it's going to suck this year tho :/
Six Flags did get a B&M less than a decade ago...
Redesign Raging Bull!!!
11:54 Eyyy thats my video!!!!!
Lol huh??
Destination Thrills the top three videos of that search. Mine is the middle video.
That is awesome! Sorry I was confused! Lol
I see it now!! I was having a dumb moment. 😂
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RMC American Eagle is extremely likely as we know they need to replace the PTC trains soon as they’ve reached the end of their service life. I would expect them to give it the iron horse treatment instead of buying new trains as it would grab people’s attention and most likely bring a better return on investment
This is my home park i was there when it was first open as Marriott's Great America this is for who ever the CEO is stop being Cheap you get what you pay for yeah u have putting a coaster every few years but the price for tickets food etc are ridiculous and with everything going up like gas and travel you need to give meaning the public what it's wants RMC the Eagle haven't you ever heard if you build it they will come we are really sick of the 5 sec Rollercoasters and the clone ones also all of your parks look the same beside of a few rides it doesn't fill like we ever left I'm not going to another six Flags and ride the joker, Batman , Superman, the big. Giant looping Carnival ride that you call a coaster but it's not or Flash then y'all wonder why your Stock has dropped this is the reason now some will argue hey Great. America is a nice park yeah it is but the only way you will see better stock price and not lose Revenue is to stop being Cheap think big because No matter who sits in the CEO seat you will never ever beat Cedar Point or any other park for that matter go Big Or Go Home Six Flags oh and get rid if the Demon please and If you add a new flat ride please add Giant pendulum ride magic mountain has one and does a few other six flag parks we want bigger ride not the small version the ones this needed to be said
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Drink every time he says coaster.
Next Roller Coaster? I don't think so.
Jimmy Kielbasa what!? They get new coasters every 2-3 years!
@@Somecallmetimm You heard me. I don't think so.
Jimmy Kielbasa have you been? Probably not. Do you know crap about the park and roller coasters in general? probably not!
@@Somecallmetimm Not exactly.
This park is the most profitable out of the whole chain. It will continue to have regualar investments like Great Adventure and Magic Mountain. I would also argue it's one of the most complete. It just lacks that stand out coaster.
They should rmc Goliath it is too rough ahh I cannot bear it I rather have mean streak instead
Ummm...
What
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Why the fuck is six flags great America way better than California’s great America
It's not Chicago is Gurnee
TRex incoming soon....