Best scan tool for the money?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ม.ค. 2024
- Is there actually one best scan tool? No there is not really one best scan tool. They all have their limitations without a doubt. I have had plenty of time's as mentioned in the video that one scan tool will not do what the others will do. There are many questions you have to answer when you are deciding on a scan tool. What are you going to be working on.
Honda's and acura's? Asian vehicles overall? Domestic? Euro? they all have their pro's and cons with each brand.
Do you need can-fd? Key programming options? adas calibrations? So many things to know.
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imagine how much better life would be if automakers had to release their diagnostic tools for free.
Wouldn’t that be nice. It’s not the diagnostic tools but the information we need access to. You can use a pass thru module and do everything with that
Also imagine how they made obd standard on all vehicles, and if they had to do that for all scanners for OEM software and functions.
Nothing is free. Even the dealers have to pay for it.
VCDS is free
Thing is they don’t need additional hardware, they just need to load an app on the head unit
This video is right up my alley, I’m a 14 yr gm tech, I have an mdi 2 (I purchased) but I do need my own scan tool instead of always carrying around my laptop but there are rare occasions i need to do a used car.
U can purchase an mdi2? Can u get techline connect too?
I'm also a GM tech and I got my own MDI. I just bought an otofix D1 Max and it's light-years ahead
I have a 2018 Cadillac Escalade with a mag suspension issue. What scan tool will read this issue? Reading their descriptions it doesn’t really say if they will see or scan this issue. Any idea the best scan tool?
Great overview! My go too is the TopDon, but you need a bunch if you want to cover it all😀
Thanks for watching! And my topdon has come in clutch for me several times!
Great information. Thank you.
I haven't used my new Zeus much (been doing tractors and forklifts lately) but I still don't regret it!
Nice
Great video! Valuable information, helped me make a decision on my first Scanner
What did you get?
What’s the best bi-directional scanner for duramax diesel… they have quite a few parts that are required to be turned on after replacement.. otherwise dreaded limp mode
In a nutshell if you don’t spend thousands of dollars don’t expect to get many features but for the most part he is somewhat correct sometimes cars have a hard time communicating with even $10,000 scanners at times vs a $1500 scanner
Thank you for the video Friend!
Looking for an affordable scan tool that can do throttle adaptation for mini cooper. I am looking towards the Launch crp123x
Would have to find out directly from the manufacturer because as mentioned not one Scan tool will do it all
you said that SO wasn't exactly the best for euro or diesels ... then you said a better alternative for eruos... what is a better option for diesels?
I'm looking for a scanner. What do you recommend, among the top ones, the Xtool d9s or the launch Pro 3s. I wait your answer thank you
as mentioned in the video. There are a lot of questions that need answered
I enjoyed the video but have the Zeus and modus ultra snap on. I’m gonna try and get the aultel try her out heard great reviews
Will the T8 reset trans adapts. And read torque converter slip speed. GM, Ford.
Will it do transmission quick learn for Dodge, Jeep and Ram.
Reach out to icon diagnostics and find out.
What about an all around for OBD2, Class 4-8, and heavy equipment such as backhoes and tractors? Im getting into mobile mechanic work and need a good all around scan tool to cover a variety of equipment, not just gassers like I have worked on before.
what is the best scan tool for rewriting vin number ????
at a honda dealer ship. we used a snapon as a back up scan tool. it even programmed new fobs on a 22 and up honda. very powerful tools
Yup great for Hondas. Honda has the easies immo for sure
What about the hybrid? Any scan tool will work?
Agree! I use mainly my Snap-on Zeus & Autel Ultra. I wish Snap-on would put topology on their scan tools which I keep asking them when, but they say they are discussing it for the last 3 yrs. If I need topology, I use my Ultra. Each one has pros & cons & capabilities. The price of subscriptions & updates is getting insane. Autel Ultra was @$1600 for my last update. I bought my Zeus from the Rock & Roll Express truck when they first came out & I got a free 3 yr subscription with it b/c every time they came out with a new scan tool I upgraded to it plus I help out shops when they had questions or problems with theirs & my SO dealer asked me. I agree for DIYers just buy a code reader unless they plan on working on it themselves and understand PIDs & bi-directional controls and their capabilities. Great advice for Scanner Danner subscription b/c he has videos from Rosedale Tech when he was an instructor there. Best $11 to gain access to hundreds of in-classroom trainings! Great video!
Yea unsure as to why they aren’t doing topology. I’ve heard they are working towards getting rid of scopes. Unsure how true that it but from a sales standpoint and competing with the other brands it makes sense
@Enrightauto I like their scope on their scan tools for convenience but I also have a Pico 4425 & 4425a. The SO scope is nice & I used it for years but once I bought my Pico it has capabilities the SO scope doesn't have. If I don't want to break out the Pico & laptop I still grab the Zeus.
@@haywardsautomotive6156 same exact thing I do 😂 love my pico as well
I was going to buy a MK900-BT autel 2024 model, is it a good tool
Too many times have I been working at home on a car where I wish I had more than my code reader. Shop has a super nice zeus but 10 grand aint happening for me. Looking for something with good data, decent bidirectional, maybe a labscope function (even though ive only needed a scope like 3 times in my life) and suited mostly towards american and japanese cars as well.
I have a 2018 ram 3500 diesel. It’s a work truck for my land clearing business. I try to do most of the work myself. To save cost, bust mostly time. I don’t have time to take truck into dealer and let it sit.
I currently have a service 4wd message on. My cheap Harbor freight code reader won’t read the and tell me what’s going on.
I replaced the 4wd actuator and the transfer case shift Motor. Still not working.
Would the icon T8 be a good scan tool than can access the service 4wd message and help me out with problems like this? Or would it be waste of money.
I hope to hear back thanks!
Waste of money take it to a professional shop and get it diagnosed. You have already thrown the parts cannon at it and thrown away your hard earned money. Don’t keep wasting it
@@Enrightauto thank you
I have a Xtool D8bt its been good so far has doip can-fd and topology
Good to know! They reached out to me an offered one of their scan tools but I declined it was a cheap version
@@Enrightauto big mistake. its better than all the scan tool you have on that table.
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Let me try framing the question differently, if u were a tech with $1000 budget starting out in a local shop and u work mostly American and Asian cars what scantool would you choose.
The scan tool I would choose doesn’t fit in a $1000 budget unfortunately for Asian and domestic unless you can find a verus edge used for $1k or perhaps a modis edge or something similar. I’ve found my snap on’s to be the best for Asian and domestic. Second in line would probably be topdon or autel but as mentioned in the video all scan tools fall short.
I would ask the shop to invest into a scan tool for you. Techs shouldn’t have to buy their own scan tool. The only stipulation would be you can’t use it for side work which is fair
Xtool D8 or D9, likely the Xtool IP819 at 400.00 will do.
I replaced my Snap On Modis Ultra that is completely updated for the Topdon Phoenix Smart and it definitely does more than the Modis imo. I've noticed you said some will scan modules or look at them when they are not fitted. My Snap On when i would hit display fitted systems only it would actually skip some. Overall for me it's Topdon. Not saying Snap On is bad, but they're way over priced for anything. Especially for any add ons which topdon has so many that i believe can be used with all the Phoenix line. My Modis helped me through a lot of stuff, but change is inevitable and hopefully they'll take note of the other companies.
Topdon makes great scan tools. I’ve never had my snap on not include fitted systems. As mentioned in the video they all have their pros and cons. To be honest comparing a max to a modis is not a fair comparison. Comparing a verus edge or zeus to the max would be a comparison.
@@Enrightauto it's the Smart, but I know exactly what you mean between the tiers of scanners. All scanners will have their pros and cons. I do mostly euro vehicles, why I do I have no idea lol. Great video by the way.
I noticed that you did not have the INOVA 7111. Will you do a review on that one or no
Unless innova reaches out to me and asks to use their tool and review it I won’t be doing a review on it. The majority of these scan tools are paid for with my own money so as I’m sure you can understand buying a bunch of different brands just to review them isn’t a great financial decision 😂
Thanks for the quick reply, and understand@@Enrightauto
This was not a waste, it gets to the point and explains the bullet points. It's not meant to be a comprehensive comparison.
Everyone’s looking for a silver bullet answer. Thanks for watching and thanks for having common sense
can anyone explain to me what makes these snap on scanners worth between $6000 and $10000
Can most bidirectional scan tools manipulate transmission shift solenoids. What I mean is is that a standard feature
Not sure about standard but yes it’s usually and option. Going to be different for each as well as manufacturer
I want to know best 1 for 2015 back gmc vehicles to be more specific transmission diagnostic
As mentioned in the video they will all have their short comings. The best is going to be oe tech 2
I am working on a Freightliner/ Mercedes sprinter 2500 which one would be best for that type of larger diesel van. I am trying to get a diagnostics and I know my code reader does not give enough information. I will give a code of CE001068 example and that can be 4 different things (made up code.). Also looking for one that I can change codes like for speed. It use to be a DHL Van max speed is 70mph not great for highway were speed limits are 75mph.
I would want to see you review the xtool scanners. The bidirectional ones.
Just filmed it today the d7w
which one can do live compression test?
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So would you choose a topdon our autell for transmission work
As mentioned in the video it depends on what you are working on and what exactly you are trying to do with it. There is no simple answer outside of buying the one you want and trying it out
Is launch and thinkcar the same software kinda like otofix is autel??
Yes launch, think car, topdon, matco are all launch software
Hello, I am starting a mobile tech company. Looking for something to get started without breaking the bank. I understand no scanner does it all.. snap on are just so expensive. Was looking at the d10 I have heard of launch top don, and autel. In my general area there are predominately American pickups and SUV’s as well as a few higher lower end Europeans. 2 Chanel lab scope is mostly all used. Just looking for best model and brand without having to have 4 like my last few shops had. Well atleast not off rip.. thank you any info would be much appreciated. I do like the guided component tests that is a plus
Save your money. If you are starting as a Mobile diag tech or even mobile mechanic then either don’t take diag until you can afford a couple or save up the money before you start. You will most definitely run into issues with only having one. I would start with at least an autel and a snappy and a pass thru module
The biggest question I'm having with after market scan tools is the bidirectional capabilities. Im a GM technician and am thoroughly experienced in GDS2 and Tech2. I'm having a hard time trying to find how aftermarket compares to them. I'm not interested in programming, adas, key fobs. It's simply the Pids and bidirectional functions. So my questions are for example, does this brand and model generally (reguardeless of vehicle manufacturer) have 50% or 75% or 90% pids and bidirectional features as the oem tools? Is there a rescouce that answers this in a specific manner?
You just have to look at the specific model of scan tool and it will tell you if it has service functions and bi directional controls.
I know they all say service functions and bidirectional functions but none of them say how indepth, like on OEM tool you can command anything but on aftermarket they don't say that if you go into the ecm whether they only command 3,5,12,20 etc different things. like I'm sure the snap on Zeus scanner commands more than an autel 808.
@@vzach1 if it says it has it. It’s supposed to do them all.
I had the Autel ms919, and it has 100% of all the functions of the gds2 and tech2. I Actually loved the autel better than the gds2 for graphing and recording live data. Now I might get the ms909 due to my ms919 being stolen/lost. I've had the snap on solus edge as well but it's too slow on giving live data inputs which could lead to a wrong diag decision. I mainly work on Duramax's
Does BT609 actually do Bi direct controls other video you posted said it did not ?
Huh? It does service functions.
Great video packed full of some very good insight. I have to say one of the best ive watched over the last few days on this topic. I ended up going with an OTOFIX PRO. seemed to be best bang for buck. Time will tell though.
Thanks for watching. I’ve heard good things about otofix. If I just had a bunch of disposable money I’d snag one to try out like the icon t8. I wast hoping it would be better than it was to share as a good option for people but it’s not
Thanks for sharing this. Probably my biggest takeaway is to have a really clear idea what features you need.
Definitely disappointing to learn there's no all in one, and frankly I'd place the blame for that at the feet of auto manufacturers.
There should be a reasonable access to any manufacturers vehicle information, and a global standard of how that information can be accessed by scan tools.
Corporations locking up access to specific applications squashes competition and is very anti Right to Repair.
Very well said manufacturers are trying to constantly keep us locked out. It’s frustrating for sure thanks for watching
I have and 2010 Nissan rogue and I looking for good tool check and service transmission at home cvt
Most basic code readers will have live data on them. You will have to check the specific tool on whether it’s able to see that data on your Nissan. Honestly it’s just cheaper to pay a shop to service the transmission. It’s inexpensive and the intervals aren’t insane
Hey bro, I need something that can read codes and maybe do a force Regen on diesel trucks ( F -250 and maybe a Ram- 2,500) can someone recommend one or a few? Thanks
Topscan
Hey, great last name!
Covered it pretty well!
Haha thanks I’m no expert like ya’ll just trying to break it down in Layman’s terms
Can you get into the tcm and control shift solenoids and read live data from the transmission with the icon t8? Also control tcc?
im wondering as well
As a one man shop runner is there a scan tool you can suggest that can do it all?
No. I said that in the video
@@Enrightauto ok, any suggestion autel, launch or topdon? Which scanner from these to your knowledge have the most coverage and features?
@@Khans1199 did you watch the video?
@@Enrightauto yes, its hard to pick as first scantool for the shop. Need something that can pretty much do it all.
@@Khans1199 as said in the video. What you are asking doesn’t exist
I work on my vehicles at home. I want a decent scan tool can anyone recommend one? I have ram 2020 i work on.
Topscan
I just want a tool that can tell me why the check engine on or wrench symbol or something else like tire pressure. I don’t need a expensive tool where I can’t use it properly and help me saving money on figuring out what’s wrong instead of going places and forcing me to pay out them at times. Good vid, helpful because there’s a lot of misinformation and too easy to burn money.
Topscan
Autologic and Opus drive pro do actually have programming through the scan tool itself.
They are using a jbox with them so it’s the pass thru modules but yes I understand what you are saying.
I’m not sure what a jbox is. All I know is I can go into CIP and select the module I want to code and it does it. That’s with both the autologic and with the drive pro.
@@justcompton j2534 box which is a pass thru module. Auto logic and opus are great but I highly recommend learning it yourself and not having to rely on others
@@Enrightauto I’d be happy to talk to you directly instead of in the comments of your video. If you’d be willing to that is. I’d like to understand more about the subject but at this point I’m not sure how I would go about it. I’ve worked for a shop for 8 years using both Autologic and Opus drive pro so that’s the only method I’ve ever used to code a module or do anything scan tool related. I’m looking to get my own scan tool so I can step my game up with diagnostic. I can humble myself and accept help anyway I can get it. Thank you for responding to my comments.
@@justcompton check out www.l1training.com you can subscribe for $25 a month and he has tons of training videos walking you through how to do it yourself and keep your programming in house
Which Scanner has an ECM / PCM reset?
? Do you mean reset your trouble codes?
Reset codes are easy. Reset ECM / PCM and relearn. Just like reset your Trans and Thruttle body to factory default and relearn
I tried many scanners Autel Ultra is the most reliable.
OBD2 Scanner TOPDON AD600S Scan Tool
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I have a $450 Autel MX808, haven't found anything it can't do
Nice! It’s a good tool but lacks in a lot of capabilities for sure.
or buy a cheap one and throw parts at it and hope one fixes it lol
Yup great way to throw away money
i would go with an Autel scan tool than spending the extra money on a Snap-On or Mac Tools scan tools.
Autel are great but like all the rest they lack in area’s. Snap on is much better for Honda’s than autel. But not everyone works on as many Hondas as I do
Thank you for the information.@@Enrightauto
Great video man
Thanks for watching!
The real question is which tool cost the least and does the most
None because they are all competing with each other so they all do similar things but again some still lack in areas that other do not and Vice versa
what a waste of time. i came to see your opinion on these models and some comparisons to get a better sense of what i need and want and instead i got some guy rambling about irrelevant stuff. if you care to make something more relevant please release a video comparing some scan tools within some pice ranges, their capabilities and your preference. I am a DIYer that being sad i agree that i will not use most of the functionality however i will be using it a lot. i resell cars and scan tools would be such big help in this line of work. i need a scan tool to replace my code reader. there u go man go make a good video.
Exactly. I’m in the market for a scan tool and wanted to hear the comparison. This was just a waste of time.
You obviously didn’t listen to the video then. But diy’ers usually don’t. They are just looking for a silver bullet answer.
And I’ve made multiple videos on scan tools but everyone wants all the answers in one video but then when you do that the video is too long and everyone complains. Then you l shorten it and there isn’t enough info. Then it’s not the right info. Can’t make all the whiners happy
Can I start by saying I understand your frustration but I think it’s misplaced on the creator here. I too have been on this hunt before and it sucks. The short answer WAS in the first minute of the video: “All of them. “Techs would love to get a silver bullet in a scanner but it’s not the case. Also note that techs have a basic understanding from school but after that it’s the advanced training from experienced techs and hands on experience which gives them their knowledge. Being a tech is a lifelong education career and tomorrow there will be something new as the modern day vehicle changes daily. So to close my opinion on the matter I would say start with one and be prepared to buy another. It’s an expensive career and maximizing your profits on these flips will be key to ensuring your roi is worth the work and money. Good luck to you pal.
I think your best route is to partner with a smog shop or privately with a smog tech. These techs are gonna be heavily invested in diag tools and experienced in getting cars ready for smog.
@@viplegaleducation1292 i think u replied to the wrong peson lol
A subscription to WHAT?
To the data
Maybe talk about their different capabilities instead of wasting time assuming this "diyer" only need a code reader. I've plenty of those and HP tuner. I need a way to reprogram modules and dig deeper to continue to keep my newer vehicles repaired at home. We're evolving just like you guys. Specifically right now i need one good a jaguar junk somce this x-type in my yard has its security tripped. Any of thes $4-800 units fix that or program keys for one?
Or maybe listen to the video.
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having 6 tools i can give my experiance my old otc , and snap on ultra are only left standing all Autels died for different reasons, so if you want no sub just find a used snap on the its cake otherwise warranty is a whole different can of worms,,, Autel has never warrantied a single tool always found excuse!!!! my snap ons never died so not sure warranty not even sure otc still makes scan tools but they work,,,, bosch still works but exremely limited without a sub!!!! autel did do well for the breif life span of 3 different tools ? as an old tech i can vouch for having multiple scanners since there is no one size fits all!!!
When you pay $600 for a "scam" tool your paying most that money for the software so subscriptions, instead of updates to use with new models, is a scam. Sorry most scam tools
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HE DOES NOT DO WHAT THE LISTING SAYS.. WHEN YOU ARE DONE YOU STILL HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SCAN TOOL IS THE BEST FOR THE MONEY!!!!!
Almost LIKE I SAID THAT IN THE FIRST 20 seconds of the video 🥴🥴🥴 you have to stop when there is resistance cleaning your ears
@@Enrightauto😂😂😂😂😂
Terrible job
Thanks for the comment!
XTOOL D8 Key Pogrammer subaru. 2024 - Do I need two keys? I lost one- thanks Don
No idea
@@Enrightauto thanks for quick reply-