i could completely relate to Jim's past, my mother left my dad and I. Never knew why she couldn't at least visit. Single parenting is hard whether you're a mom OR dad. One can't bring to the table what the other can do better. It's tough but this movie tells the viewer "there are always parental figures you'll meet out there to teach you." thats what I love about this film.
I also think it portrays quite well that the reason doesn't matter - no matter what the reason might have been it is no excuse to walk out on your kid. They don't deserve to suffer for your own shortcomings.
I have a theory that maybe that guy is his dad, because if I remember correctly his dad was in the military or whatever, which could explain the missing limbs of the pirate through war? Idk
Tbh, I don’t think I know anyone who doesn’t at least know of Treasure Planet, and I definitely don’t know anyone who actually doesn’t like it (except for the occasional bigot, but even then I might know only a couple)
You know the relationship between Jim and Silver really works in this movie. You can really see that Silver really fills the void that Jim's father never tried to, and that Jim brings out good in Silver by filling a void that he didn't know he had.
You guys wanna' know something really depressing?... This movie was supposed to have a sequel AND its own TV series. They had everything planned out; the story, the characters... it was all being worked on at that time and many concept art were already selected. It was only after eight months of hard work and serious planning that they received a phone call saying the project was officially cancelled, due to a lack of interest in the first film from the general public. SUCH A WASTE.
Hm, a rather valid point, I'll admit, but... 'sigh'.. just looking at the beautiful concept art that had been done tells me the movie would have *at least* had great potential. (Not to mention that said movie would also have shown the one thing I have been itching to know since seeing Treasure Planet for the first time; Being, what happened to Silver.) ... I'm just sad that a load of perfectly good and creative ideas, as well as a great deal of time and effort from incredibly talented artists, were wasted just because of 'previous gain' issues.
It probably would have been akin to the Atlantis sequel. If I remember correctly, that was actually the first few episodes of the cancelled TV show just put together. They were also going to have a ride at Disneyland.
+elitadream really? I though it was an awesome movie I can't see how there was a lack of interest from the general public in the film...damn I hope they make it someday... although I don't think so :P
Gotta give Disney props for having a divorce instead of just brutally offing one of the parents. I completely forgot how mature this movie was in that it showed a father walking out on his family. I know what a parents divorce is like, but was lucky enough to have both parents still in my life.
i always thought the father left for an expedition/adventure thing and never came back and was assumed dead, like the mom was crying bc she didnt want him to leave bc she knew how dangerous it was
I think it's more that Jim's dad was leaving on a journey, and therefore his family, for good. It's implied that he was barely around when he WAS there for Jim, but obviously Jim looked up to him cause he went to space all the time. So it's more of a "I have to go on this trip, I probably wont be coming back because it's dangerous, but it doesn't matter anyway."
I think the best characterization about this segment is that you don't see Jim half-assing any of the jobs he's being given. He acts defiant, he gets an attitude, but he uses that drive to prove wrong what HE thinks Silver's (or every adult in his life) expectations are of him. The only difference is that Silver's noticing all the hard work Jim is putting forth and he recognizes him for it. It's how you can tell that Jim wasn't too far down the wrong path, all it took was an empathetic man like Silver to set him on the right path again.
I don't think jim was on right or wrong tract , he's still young deep inside him is good boy and caring all it need is someone can illuminate his path and understand him just like silver gave him a chance to act comfortably
I love the multiple layers of irony to this. The villain of the story is the one who shows Jim how to be a better person. It’s also pretty clear Silver is only hard on Jim to keep him distracted from what’s actually going on but ends up actually caring about Jim in the end. Him doing this to Jim is the thing that ultimately softens Silver. It’s so great.
You know what this film is successful. It didn't need to win an oscar, it didn't need to make tons of money. It had to touch people. This film did touch me and from all the comments and the people I watch this with, it touches them too. See that's the great thing about Disney, even their underrated and lesser known films have the power to touch many souls.
If you ask me, the Cyborg wasn't exactly an antagonist, he was the mentor that Jim needed in his life since his dad left him. That friendship they had is probably the greatest chemistry between protagonist and "antagonist" ever in a disney film.
He is an antagonist in the beginning though. Throughout the movie even while building his bond with Jim and slowly growing soft his goal is always the treasure and he won't let even Jim get in the way and ends up betraying him for it. Its not til he's tested that he realizes what's more important and changes into someone better but still keeps his mischievous personality. That was the whole point though is that they both changed each other for the better but he was still an antagonist.
kaijuumafoo I agree and that's actually how "antagonists" in the real world work. You may or may not ever like them, but in the long run what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
I really love how; - we never see his dad's face - it was already a sad, complicated home even when Jim was just a toddler. There were already problems, presumably early in his parents' relationship. - that Jim is effected by his dad's neglect when he IS home. Your parents don't have to be gone to be emotionally absent. That was already hurting Jim and making him feel like he wasn't worth it.
Yeah even when he was there it was obvious that he didn't really want to know. The obvious half-hearted pat on the head, it's a gesture of minimum effort from someone doing just enough to acknowledge Jim without actually having to engage with him. The fact that he then didn't even think his son was worth AN explanation of any kind. Not even a letter if he didn't want to do it face to face, he just left. Plus with all the noise Jim was obviously making as he ran, I doubt he was unaware Jim was chasing after him, he just didn't care. We get no indication that he beat Jim or anything like that, but he still harmed him in a very real way. It is not good for a child to feel like a unwanted obligation.
When I was young, my dad would work all the time and I’d never see him. He eventually started taking weekends off but it wouldn’t matter cause he still wouldn’t spend time with me and always shut himself off in his room and for that reason, among others, he feels like a stranger to me.
I am saddened that there was no sequel to this film but seeing the current direction of Disney in the quality of films, I don't want them to touch this movie. You don't ruin a masterpiece.
This sequence is one of the most heart warming scenes Disney has ever produced, the music, the imagery, what a beautiful scene from an overlooked amazing film.
This is one of the most original concepts disney has ever come up with along with lilo and stitch zootopia and atlantis. If you like this film pick up a copy of rise of the guardians. Another well done animated film with strong characters and at times extremely bittersweet story.
I love that scene of Jim just staring at Silver for a second affectionately, like a little kid looking at his dad again. He clearly wasn't listening to a word he was saying, he didn't need too, Jim can fly a boat, and was just happy to be with him.
Cheshire Waltz. You got the makings of greatness in you, but you gotta take the helm and chart your own course! Stick to it, no matter the squalls! And when the time comes, you'll get the chance to really test the cut of your sails and show what you're made of! And... well, I hope I'm there, catching some of the light coming off you that day.
2:05 This part is fantastic, John gets on the boat and goes off screen, and it reminds Jim of how his father left him, and as his dad leaves, it cuts back to John coming back and telling Jim to get on. It's so simple, but damn that is such a good moment Edit: I forgot to mention that Jim is visibly upset when John exits the screen, and visibly happy when he comes back, and that's specifically what I love about it
I also like how this song is the only time we see his dad at all. Like it's not something Jim thinks about or wants to. Only when he has another father figure and realizes he to could leave do these thoughts come to the forefront for Jim, which we see here. And it is only broken by that father figure proving the fears of his dad leaving wrong. That he is worth it and people do want him in their lives. And it snaps Jimbo back to the present
In almost every disney movie the main character has only one parent because of death and usually they just tell us about how the person died and that's sad on it’s own. But in this movie the parent doesn’t die but just leaves his child and never comes back. In a way that's more sad than death. And just by the way they told us how Jim's father left not with words but with the visual and the song was just brilliant and amazing. How is this not more popular than frozen? Seriously this is Disneys best movie hands down. EDIT: Wow I wrote this 9 years ago. I still think this movie is better than Frozen and it deserves way more recognition.
Cubix atleast if the parent/s died the kid still know that they died unwillingly, and they didnt want to leave their kid behind. but watching your parent made that choice to leave you is more painful than anything
Cubix, you said it! Everybody usually remembers mufasas death from the lion king but Jim’s dad leaving both him and his mother also hits home real hard.
I’m rewatching this movie again as an adult, and I’m amazed to see how Jim never really did anything wrong. He had an attitude and was defiant, but ultimately he did everything everyone expected him to do, and did his best (even if it was just to prove people wrong). It’s such a perfect depiction of how it feels to be a teenager: trying your best but somehow still missing the beats everyone’s looking for.
My adopted dad played this for me a few days ago and I cried in front of his two kids 8 and 10. He used to put this on for me as a kid, I would make him replay it the second it ended and make him watch it again. He always would tell me as much as he saved me I saved him, I think watching this as an adult made me realise it’s not about who’s ur family but who loves and cares for u regardless.
@@psychobratt I say I’m blessed, life’s hard and it could’ve been way harder if I didn’t have an Angel like him swoop me up in his wings. I’m so appreciative that my experience moved you
PokémonTrainerJakob I don't think Meet The Robinsons is as underrated. I've seen Meet The Robinsons on TV WAY more often than Treasure Planet....meaning MTR: Like 4-5 times. TP: Never.....
True. But you can also see how happy and surprised he is when Silver saves him over the treasure, not just "oh I'm not gonna die" happy but, "my friend isn't gone" happy.
Also the sequence at 2:07 when at first he's happy he's helping plenty and then seeing Silver get on the boat alone reminds him of his father leaving.... and then the sheer happiness when instead of fleeing Silver invites him on the boat to teach him how to fly it
But it wasn't the actual truth. Mr. Silver had a goal and needed his crew to follow his lead to accomplish that goal. If you are soft to your crew they will overthrow and take control. But he really felt a deep connection with Jim. Really touching movie
As a child my father left me without a say. I searched for a father figure all my life. Now as a father of 2 I believe I got a chance to do it right with them. Having them turned my life around for the better good
If it weren't for him Jim never would have been so noble. He was an antihero who in the end chose Jim. They brought out the best in one another, they needed each other. Good relationship. Good movie.
Late answer to an old comment but still... In many ways, Silver is Jim... As in, if Jim hadn't got the father-figure of Silver at that time, he would have ended up replacing parts of his body, to look for and obsessing about the "treasure".
I feel as though this film wasn't appreciated enough. The story of this is a thousand times better than that of modern day Disney films, such as Frozen for example. This should be recognised as one of the best, and I feel so sorry for the parents and children who never saw this or ever will.
***** I am really sorry about that, my parents don't live together anymore which I am actually really happy about because my Dad verbally abused me quite a lot when I was younger. These songs remind me of happier times :)
***** Not to offend you but I turn to myself for answers and get through them on my own, which I always had to do anyway. I'd rather be able to rely on myself or someone close to me whom knows me and can help me directly.
Well..that's your opinion..and..know what, I'll say some random question. Do you think Disney is trying to make their own original stories? Yes, I know this comment is two years old.
This movie deeply spoke to a whole generation of fatherless boys who never fully understood what they're missing out on. No wonder it is so underrated.....speaks volumes
I miss the 2D animation because back when Disney was doing 2D animation, almost all of their movies had a different animation style that made them unique. From Pocahontas with its painted-like backgrounds, to Mulan where every cloud of dust, foam, or snow was an unfurling motion, and Princess and the Frog where almost every happy scene had such a golden glow to it. My only issue with the 3D animation that's being done now is that it will get outdated extremely quick, and there's no variety to the style. Rapunzel, Anna, Elsa, and soon Princess Moana all have the exact same facial build.
They said (2004) Home on the range is the reason why 2D animation stopped but they still didn't care and made Princess and the frog and (2011) Winnie the Pooh had a low box office so Walt Disney animated studios just sticks with computer animation
***** Not in the general features, no. It's obvious that they're not similar in terms of things like hair, skin, clothing, etc. But they have eerily similar facial build, not necessarily a bad thing but it doesn't always look good. Rapunzel, Moana, and the Frozen sisters all have very large, round eyes, very round head structures, and most of their features are within close range of each other. Visually, the design choices are made because to the human eye, it's meant to look cute and baby-ish, and it appeals to us. It's Disney's design choice, more so in recent years, when it comes to women.
***** What do you mean? I just explained it once. because you implied that you couldn't see it. (Long-ass wall of text, be prepared) I didn't say Disney was the only studio to partake in "same face", I just said that they did it; the thing is that everyone applauds them for "physical diversity" and it is a lot of undeserved praise. Studio Ghibli and Tim Burton are poor examples to use because both of those animation companies look the same due to style, they are characteristics of the style. Tim Burton uses large terrified eyes, gloomy colors, and scribbly-looking outlines (present around the eyes and within details) to add a gloomy look, but they're not all the same. Look at all the characters in Corpse Bride, not a one of them look alike to each other. Emily is decayed, yet she has a fuller figure and with more emphasized lips and nose, whereas Victoria is petite, with smaller features that are less pronounced. Victor is tall and scrawny with very large, nervous eyes; Lord Barkis is more elegantly kept in clothing and appearance with a large chin and more robust figure. Further, Studio Ghibli's also different. Chihiro from "Spirited Away" compared to Ponyo from the same movie are not one and alike: Ponyo's face is overall rounder and her eyes are bigger and wider without eyelashes. Chihiro's face is longer because she's a young girl (yet older), her eyes are smaller and she has eyelashes. Howl from "Howl's Moving Castle" and Haku from "Spirited Away" are also different; Haku's features, like his eyes and chin, are more pointed (due to appearing cold and aloof most of the time), Howl's facial aspects are more feminine and larger (because he's overall more friendly and warm in appearance). Not defending anime or Don Bluth because yes, they are very same faced. But again, it's not the fact that Disney has same-face, it's the fact that people praise "muh diversity" when there's very little present at all in Disney anymore (and even back then).
Thankyou for posting this song. When I was a little girl my father and I would whatch the movie just to hear this song. He used to get very emotional durring the song. Unfortunately I never got to ask him why he recently died for a prolonged illness. I miss the images of a better time with him and this song allowed me to revisit them thankyou.
2:00 “Can you help me be a man” I was lucky enough to grow up with a dad who taught me continues to teach me everything he knows, that line still hits me like a bullet. This movie is a masterpiece.
One of the best and most underrated Disney movies. Every time this part comes on, I get close to crying. As a Dad, I try to spend a lot of time with my son. As a teacher, I can’t help but want to spend time helping all these poor kids who have had to grow up without a male figure.
It is seriously so special. You're awesome for caring about being a good father. You should check out my analysis video on the movie on my channel that I just released. It talks about why the movie is spectacular, and also why it was never as big as other great Disney movies!
There's a TH-cam channel about a guy that grew up in foster care and when he became a dad himself he had to learn all of these things to be able to teach his son and then he started putting them online. Now there's a whole section of things a dad should teach on TH-cam that these kids can reach out to now and even if there's no relationship to build at least they won't suffer from not knowing the information
This scene plus the heart breaking comments about their father leaving when they were a young age. I couldn't hold back the tears. My father is still with me and it breaks my heart when people tell their story about their parents just leaving.
2:08 i love how Jim's past comes back to try and hurt him again, but then Silver comes back and asks Jim to join him. and that smile at 2:45 is just so genuine.
Things this movie teaches: A bad man can learn to be a good father, and be a good man A misfit can learn to fit in, and appreciate what he has, not what he lost The treasure in life isn’t the wealth we chase, but the people who mean the most to us Self confidence can lead to a very prosperous relationship (Science dog and captain cat)
As a dad, and as a son I cannot understand how anyone can pass on the gift of being THAT person in a child's life. You get one shot, don't blow it. Here, it's all the bettter because Silver owes no obligation to Jim but becomes a father to him. My own dad veered from being physically abusive, to being absent, to being neglectful. To this day (I am 56) he still offers only negativity. I got NOTHING from our relationship but an example of what NOT to be to my child. Had several people that I encountered that were like Silver but regretfully all of them had their own commitments.
I didn't have a great relationship with my father either. I'm 30 now and I wish we had a better relationship. I eas lucky that I had a great father figure in my step-dad.
I did not understand the meaning behind the part from 2:10 to 2:45 until now. When Silver left, he got reminded of how his dad left, but unlike his dad, Silver came back and took him along on the ride even gave him the reins. Fudge this song and movie became much more emotional now. I didn't understand this movie much when I was a kid but enjoyed it. Now, since I am older, everything makes so much more sense and it's all more emotional.
Its crazy that the director of this film Ron Clements who directed alot of the disney renaissance films such as Little Mermaid, Aladdin, and Hercules, he wanted to make Treasure Planet before all of these great movies and Disney told him no and thought it was a bad idea. He kept bugging them about it until they said "well you helped us with all these movies we will let you have your project" and they didnt even care about Treasure Planet and supplied it with barely any marketing budget and put it out with other blockbuster movies at the time. Crazy that Ron Clements realized the potential of the movie but Disney did not.
Blame Jeffrey Katzenberg for that. It was him who kept refusing Ron Clements and John Musker's dream project of making Treasure Planet. In fact, only when Katznberg was fired was the project finally green-lighted. Then again Katzenberg thought that The Lion King was a terrible idea that was no doubt gonna flop. That tells everything.
2:42 this part of the song always brings a tear to my eye the way Silver comes back for Jim to let him ride. Never will i understand why this movie gets so much hate from critics
My father left when i was 11, and i can understand as a boy who was raised by a single mother. There is something missing. Sure mothers give you the care, love & nurture but the fathers are the ones who usually teach, inspire, guide & encourage. Growing up i had some envy to my classmates, they seemed to possess a sense of direction & clarity who they are, and as a boy growing up i always lacked it. And probably other men raised by single mothers do.
You and me because my father lift me and brothers and sisters when I was 6 years old and I haven't seen since I was 9 and it been hard for me and my mom and brothers and sisters
That's not always the case even with both parents I still feel I don't know who I am or what to do with myself. Not saying my parents are horrible they certainly aren't the best but they do some things right but still.
I relate so hard to this comment and this song. My parents divorced when I was 4. My dad was still physically in my life, and my brother and I saw him often. He even lived in the same town as my mom. But that's all he really was, is physically there. That makes it hard because it's hard to point out what's missing when you physically go to your dad's house like every weekend. It's taken me until my 20s to really see how much was lacking in my relationship with my dad. Once, in college, I went something like 2 whole months without seeing or talking to him, and it struck me how much I didn't even miss him, barely even thought about him. Like there's this entire part of me that's missing, and I can't even tell it's gone. Can't even feel the loss of what was never even there to begin with.
On the millionth rewatch I JUST NOTICED!!! That when Jim falls asleep after washing dishes, Silver puts HIS OWN COAT over him. Until now I thought it was just a blanket, but him putting his coat just makes it SOOO much sweeter and more sentimental
2:08 I never realised after so many times watching this film that Jim looks upset because Silver flying away reminds him of the memory of his father leaving
I’m having a very emotional moment right here, thank you everyone for sharing this with me. I’m 23. This was (and will always stay) my forever favourite animation since 2005. And the scene itself became more personal, due to my current situation. Hell, is this movie underrated.
Yeah, this movie shows real human emotion that all of us can relate to in different ways. We all need somebody to believe in us and to help us in our own journey through life.
"(Not) a moment that's held in your arms." I finally get it. Jim wishes his mom would stop seeing him as the tiny little child she once cradled, because he can't grow up or earn respect if she always treats him like that.
I am a question to the world Not an answer to be heard Or a moment that's held in your arms And what do you think you'd ever say I won't listen anyway You don't know me And I'll never be what you want me to be And what do you think you'd understand I'm a boy ' No, I'm a man You can't take me and throw me away And how can you learn what's never shown Yeah you stand here on your own They don't know me 'Cause I'm not here And I want a moment to be real Wanna touch things I don't feel Wanna hold on and feel I belong And how can the world want me to change They're the ones that stay the same They don't know me 'Cause I'm not here And you see the things they never see All you wanted I could be Now you know me and I'm not afraid And I want to tell you who I am Can you help me be a man They can't break me As long as I know who I am And I want a moment to be real Wanna touch things I don't feel Wanna hold on and feel I belong How can the world want me to change They're the ones that stay the same They can't see me But I'm still here They can't tell me who to be 'Cause I'm not what they see Yeah the world is still sleepin' While I keep on dreamin' for me And their words are just whispers and lies That I'll never believe And I want a moment to be real Wanna touch things I don't feel Wanna hold on and feel I belong And how can they say I'll never change They're the ones that stay the same I'm the one now 'Cause I'm still here I'm the one 'Cause I'm still here I'm still here I'm still here I'm still here
God I get so emotional seeing this scene. I never had dad issues myself,but seeing Jim grow up with his dad barely being part of it really got to me,the scene where we see that Jim's dad just got up and left never to return really got me choked up
i don't care what people say about this movie being so underrated i still love this movie to bits. I watched it a lot when i kid and still love it as an adult. I love the story, the characters, the art style and moments. The relationship between John Silver and Jim is just awesome. Hell even when i have kids im gonna show this to them to show how awesome this movie is.
Sitting here bawling my eyes out to this video comparing it to my life. My dad left when I was young and the part where he runs down the stairs was exactly like me as a kid I ran down one morning and he was gone I remember running to the window and the front door trying to chase after him. My grandfather took me under his wing raised me as his own and taught me everything I know today. He wasn’t an easy man to work with or even live alongside over the years but he stepped in and filled the shoes of my father which I will always respect him for.
Treasure Planet was supposed to have a TV series in the same vein as Aladdin and Hercules if it did as well as was expected in the box office. It would've been about Jim going to various planets.
I'm kind of happy that it didn't happened though. Because "Tarzan & Jane" and "Atlantis 2" are terrible, and they're both a compilation of the three first episodes of a tv show that never happened.
This scene always reminds me of how I had to grow up without a father. He walked of my life when I was 5. Found out he had died when I was 13. All these years, I had to teach myself how to be a man, and thus I have succeeded without him. I am now 22. But yeah..a lot of us can relate to Jim and what he went through.
I understand what you had to go through. I know how bad this sounds, but my father was present but lived like a stranger in my life. Here I am the same age as you and I had to do the same. I had to grow up and become a better man without his hands in my life.
Aww, mine walked out when i was like ~5 (i can't even remember), started a new family when i was 20 and got himself two more kids. At the family gatherings he looks like the happiest sod alive with them around. I'm still like "the fuck i did?."
Years of appreciating this movie and just now realizing 0:36 this moment foreshadows Jim tying everyone's lifelines later on. Jim had always been listening and goes above and beyond everything Silver throws at him, and Silver sees all of it. So it's why Silver never thought Jim messed up with the lifelines
Oh crap. The feelings this brought me is so real I cried. This was one of my favorite movies growing up. Unlike other movies I payed attention to everything about this movie. It's still one of the best movies I've ever seen, and me growing up without a father I really related to Jim. There was most likely nothing I didn't like about this movie, because it was just so perfect to me. I literally still have the old dvd in my closet in a secure place because I really treasured it. ;w;
this was a good movie and that song was my favorite part of the whole thing. we still have the DVD from when it came out. my dad was the type that decided that his second wife (my step mom) was more important than us. didn't see it coming, she the step mom also decided that we weren't worth a second thought, or maybe even a first thought. either way the song resonated with me, and I loved it. even the part in the movie where he thinks the alien with the pink squishy is going to leave him behind, that hit home too.
Same thing, when ever there was a moment showing the friendship between Jim, and John, I sometimes...sorta cry... But this song made my cry while watching it, and this is really impressive to me, as this is the first Disney movie that has ever made me cry. The only animated movie to make me cry, was The Iron Giant.
I totally agree. I always fill up with tears at this scene, and empathise with Jim's predicament when I watch this movies with my kids. What an underrated classic
When Silver came back for Jim, I had to pause the movie and weep. No movie has ever done this to me. As someone who never had a father figure growing up but never really thinks about it, this movie hit something deep inside.
I don't know. But I think Disney's trying to make original plots now. Frozen has taken inspiration from the Snow Queen, Big Hero 6 I- actually...I think they just based the movie off a comic...Wreck-It-Ralph is one..Moana...not sure..And we have The Good Dinosaur Coco coming soon. This is basically their second attempt of making original stories (I think) The first time they tried..like Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Home On The Range, The Emperor's New Groove, and Treasure Planet..All bombed except for two...I think...know what, never mind this.
Because the Karens are offended by everything. God forbid Disney actually makes an original movie with charcaters that kids can relate to, pretty animation, a solid story with mature themes, and, get this, a kick-ass music score that will blow all Kids Bop crap clear out of the water.
Oh man, I love Emperor's New Groove, that movie was awesome, sequel was ok but still I love it. Atlantis was awesome too, though it's sequel was less than ok. I don't really remember Home on the Range though, I might need to look it up on Disney+ if it's there. Am I weird for liking the underrated movies? Maybe? Maybe not?
The Disney movies that are inspired by the classic pieces of Literature are , by far, the best of all that Disney has made. This one, in particular, was a very imaginative venture - turning 'Treasure Island' into 'Treasure Planet', brilliant work. The movie was so exceptionally good and classy, that it didn't appeal to mainstream morons - but that was to be expected.It was a real work of thought - all the dialogues, art and soundtrack are so well orchestrated - and perhaps this result made it a little high end, much beyond the scope of comprehension of Disney's actual target audience. It's sad really, that such a work of art is so underappreciated.
It’s unfortunate that this Disney movie didn’t do as well as the executives wanted, and yet there’s still the fans who treasure it dearly even after all these years :3 this movie is tied with being my favourite Disney film of all time
Tbh the animation is not that good. It's clunky and ugly. This obvious merge of cgi and hand drawn images just doesn't go well, the movie looks bad. Bad other than that, I love this movie to bits, I weep that it never got a sequel.
+borek921 I actually thought it looked quite good. I own it on blu-ray and personally it's eye candy for me. And for one of the first attempts to combine the two animation types at the time, it wasn't that bad. It actually was going to get a sequel at some point and even a TV show but lack of interest prevented it doing so. It was going to be a continuation. "The sequel was to pick up where the first film left off, with Jim Hawkins going to the Royal Interstellar Academy. At the Academy, he is a hotshot “natural,” but he doesn’t follow the rules very well. Hence, he gets off to a shaky start - especially with his classmate Kate, who is very smart and has a type A personality. Kate’s father is Admiral Blake, the Commander of the Navy. Jim and Kate vie for top of the class but have very different skills." To be honest if Jim was supposed to hit it off with some typical romance sap I'm kind of glad they didn't go through it, haha.
I did some reading about the sequel some time ago, I learned that Treasure Planet was a financial disaster, it saddens me when I see Frozen blowing up and gems like this are left and forgotten. I mean Frozen is ok and all but it doesn't deserve the attention it got, I can't even put my finger on why it got so popular, I mean it's nothing groundbreaking, just another Disney fairy tale without any meaningful message or plot, at least that's the impression it gave me. Oh well, at least I can come back to this song wherever I please and get goosebumps one more time. As for the animation, I dunno, the characters just feel disconnected from the world with their set in stone colors and shadowing while things areound them try to go for a more realistic look.
Well my friend, I have to say the animation is unique. Unlike other animation styles in other Disney films, this one stands out the most to me. Also, I think the mix of CGI and hand drawn animation is great. Also, please, Treasure Planet having no sequel is a miracle. I don't want to see Disney ruin it just to make a couple bucks.
Actually not only is it CGI it also had Deep Canvas on it too. (Deep Canvas is animation program that animates geometric shapes i.e the vines that Tarzan slides on, and the wheel thingy that Jim goes through in the beginning of the movie.) In fact most of it was Deep Canvas (because the ship was Deep canvas and most of the movie was on a ship), the CGI was mostly used in Silver's robotic parts and Jim's Solar Sailboat.
Man this movie looks amazing. I think it's one the best fantasy worlds that Disney has ever conjured up. I actually want to live in this kind of Victorian era steampunk space... world. It's seriously friggin' beautiful.
Extremely underrated movie. I love the world too! You should check out my analysis video on the movie on my channel that I just released. It talks about why the movie is spectacular, and also why it was never as big as other great Disney movies!
Miranda Morgan I didn't have daddy issues (although I didn't feel like my dad understood me that well either), but this was like, my theme song when I was 15; I was constantly listening to it. Now that I'm older I feel ashamed of how I acted during my teenage years, but it doesn't change the fact that this song perfectly encapsulated how I felt back then, and I still love it now.
Something I just realized after rewatching this years later: At 0:34 Silver teaches Jim how to tie a hangman’s knot, but Jim already knew how to make one. I never noticed it as a kid, but now I know how dark this part really is
I don't think Disney haves the enough balls to imply that Jim tried to kill himself once but I believe this small moment says that this is something he already knows how to do and he is unsatisfied on doing this again and he came to this ship in order to do something new and exciting. To actually do something of real use.
I think that's a Sailors hitch. A hangman's knot is better for attaching things to things. If you wanted some thing darker you'd be looking for a Shepards Knot or a Half-Hitch. Better for making a Noose.
So thats actually a boatswains knot. Its commonly used in moaring and works like a reverse slipknot. You can actually tie just about anything down with a boatswains knot and it wouldn't move.
I doubt it was that grim. The real point of that scene was that Jim actually did take in from Silver how to make that knot, but immediately used it to skip out on Silver's class (lol). It was partly to show Jim's potential as a sailor, along with their relationship still needing building up over the course of the song.
I was asked what one of my favorite love songs was recently, and I mentioned this song and this movie specifically. They asked why, since it wasn’t meant to be romantic at all. I said that the only love songs that have any real affect on me are about familial love. This is literally a boy finding a father figure that he was pretty brutally deprived of, realizing that some old/deep scars hurt just a bit less now, receiving the attention/praise he always wanted, and stumbling upon family where he didn’t expect it, after he’d ran away from the only family he had left. And the two of them mentor-student bonding is so nice to see, I loved it ever since I was a little kid. The focus on their relationship building instead of a romance throughout the movie held my attention so much more even years later.
This is a scene that will make me cry every single time. You feel Jim’s pain in this whole entire scene. From the start of the film he is this teenager who is getting arrested making the bad decisions and it affects his mother. Later on things start to change for him. He meets silver and they both change each others lives for the better. We don’t need to understand why his father left him. The way they can convey the emptiness and hollowness and sadness with just how it feels when someone leaves you is exactly the face he makes in that scene and it makes me cry every single time. That is the face of someone who never healed from their childhood trauma. Then when he comes back he has a reason to smile again and that’s when we has the audience feel the same way. I don’t know why this movie is so underrated it will always be one of my most favorite movies of all time. I also love seeing how he stands strong with the chores that he was given by him and he didn’t slack off at all. It shows us that he’s growing but he’s becoming a man and he’s not that teenager who is making bad decisions anymore it’s just a beautiful film and I will always love it and that song in the way that it’s scored in with those scenes beautifully done.
I didn’t really think anything of this part of the movie until recently. My dad served my mom divorce papers, packed up his stuff and left, essentially mirroring the scene where Jim’s dad left. I watched this movie with my siblings and when that scene happened we were all quiet but the quiet felt a little more somber and deeper than before. It’s honestly become so much more relatable nowadays, and being able to listen to just the song has helped me progress towards healing each and every day that I listen to it.
This has always been one of my favorite movies growing up but this scene right here is one of the hardest things to watch. My father is a wonderful man and an amazing dad but he is a Marine Corps combat veteran and when I watch this segment all I can think of was the image of him going away overseas with his seabag on his shoulder while three year old me is crying his eyes out. I'd seen so little of him for many years. It's been branded in my head ever since. I'm so fucking proud of my dad but I'm a grown ass man now, I've been in the Marines myself, work a heavy job in a factory and I'm a bodybuilder, and this scene still makes me choke like a little kid ahaha
How was your father when he was around, though? Was he as dismissive/distant as Jim's in the film, or did he actually give you attention/affection? I only saw Treasure Planet for the first time a few days ago, and I loved it. It's very moving in places, and this montage with the song is easily my favourite. My dad wasn't absent and didn't leave, but I don't really think he should've been a father. His father was absent because he was killed as a navy sub crew in WWII... So mine just had no reference for what a father figure could/should be.
@@SabiJD - I thank God my father was nothing like Jim's dad in the movie. My father is an orphan, abandoned by his parents at an early age and grew up in foster homes and on the streets of South Side Chicago when gang violence was at an all time high, he never had a father figure because the only male models he had in his life were either his father that left him or murderous, drug addict gang members. Despite all that, he is one of the most caring men I've ever known and an amazing father, I don't know how he managed to become the person he is after such a childhood but he was hell bent on raising a family and never make the mistakes his parents did with him. And goddamn it he succeeded. Missed him so fucking much when he was overseas
This scene, and movie, made me so grateful that I still have my father with me. Even though I am an adult and live on my own, I know I can always count on him. He will have my back no matter what and will support me in my decisions. I love you, dad
They don’t make movies like this anymore. That send powerful messages to people watching and reach’s out and touches their audience. Movies like this instill core memories and ensure a lifetime of happiness, bring back old Disney ❤️
I love how Silver's relationship with Jim progresses so naturally. He recognises from the get-go that Jim has been missing an older male figure in his life and that he can inspire authority and respect by filling it and use that authority to keep Jim in line without catching wind of the pirates' plans. However, he also recognises that whilst Jim has a slight attitude, there's a good reason for it, and he also shows great potential and intelligence. As such, he makes him continuously work the lower jobs for a time, which in turn motivates Jim to prove him wrong and earn his respect, and because Silver has such a charismatic aura and personality, Jim respects his orders in spite of his attitude. And finally, after seeing that Jim really means it, Silver begins entrusting him with more privileges and opportunities to show his talents, which Jim happily accepts, feeling truly recognised for the first time in his life by an older male figure he'd been lacking this whole time.
This made me cry so much when I first saw it as a child ( and it still does ). I had a problrmatic dad, and created a lot of issues in my life. My mom raised me on her own but wasn't able to provide guidance that a father could possibly give. I was an angsty kid who didn't understand how to handle the saddness and frustration that I felt in my life. And I yearned for someone to understand what I feel. Jim's story really resonated with me. I would watch this movie again and again whenever I felt down. I wish Disney do more movies like this. Not the " boss lady" type shows they make now. Great movies transcends gender, and provides inspiration regardless if the kid is a boy or girl. Jim's story really helped me brave my adulthood and inspired me to aspire for something better for me and my mom . Thanks Treasure Planet
This wasn’t in your recommendation, you came here to reminisce about your childhood because thats when we first watched this movie and fell in love with it.
This film will always play an important part of my life. When I was younger, my father was quite abusive and unrealible and would leave the house often. Due to this, I developed depression similarly to Jim and had a rebellious phase. It’s obviously wasn’t received well and only pushed my father and I to fight even more and drift further apart. But then there was a change in heart when my dad saw how much I was hurting due to his actions even when I put on a tough face. He eventually turned into Silver’s character where instead of abandoning me like he used to, decided to become more involved and grew to be more understanding than I thought could be possible. Now, he’s my biggest supporter. This whole film was a reflection of my journey with my father and initially I never thought I’d be able to have the relationship that Jim has with Silver but it was all worth it in the end.
This movie meant so much for us kids without fathers…i started seeing my art teacher as one after this movie Thanks Treasure Planet you made high school in 2008 bearable for me
After my parent's divorce my dad became absent in my life. He would go months without having any contact with me, and when he did it was either yelling and belittling me, or him trying to turn me against my mom. Despite my mom's best efforts he was absent from my life. I love this movie because I can relate to Jim. And this scene beautifully animates Jim and Silver's relationship.
Once I was on a trip to a cabin with a big group of college friends, and I didn't bring a blanket (bc there was supposed to be enough for everyone, but there wasn't) so I was using my towel as a blanket and it barely covered all of me. In the early hours of the morning when I was still asleep, one of the guys gently put his blanket over me and I woke up just enough to register who did it before drifting back to sleep. It was so nice of him and honestly one of the tenderest things anyone has ever done for me. They captured that moment and feeling perfectly here.
So many flash backs. I remember my life 6 yrs ago. Just playing star craft while listening to this after school. Now im all grown up and working. Its so nostalgic i miss my childhood days
During this year I watched this movie about 6 times, I just love it.. I can see myself through Jim, in this music.. I can't even tell how accurate the lyrics are... This is my all time favorite movie, my own little world in which I find peace...
I think what makes this film so enduring is that it's clearly a passion project, from the soundtrack to the animation there's not a moment of it that's not someone's labour of love. I think it was almost destined from the start to be a cult classic, I'm kind of glad the bean-counters never got to run it into the ground over the course of the '00s and early '10s like they inevitably would had done if the film had succeeded at the box office.
What I really loved about this - especially when I was younger - was how it showed Jim's insecurity and fear of feeling betrayed/pained by losing someone he's attached to without words. Him gradually starting to see Silver in the place of his father, and the moment he has this sharp unspeakable fear that he was leaving him like his own father had so long ago - but then that clears and the tempo picks up because Silver happily invites him on board. It reminded me of myself - so desperately wanting my father's approval and his presence, so deeply missing him but never being able to say it.
Of all movies that bring me back to childhood, this one is by far my favorite. I just can't believe it's almost 20 years old. Treasure Planet was severely underrated. A part of me wants to see a live action remake, whereas the child in me says that Disney would wreck it.
I love this scene so much. I freakin cry every time. The Moment, when Jim realizes that Silver wants him to come on the Boat, too is so heartwarming. Especially when your Father left you, too. So damn good.
I also love this scene so much too and my dad left me and my sister and my mom when I was 4 and when my sister was 6 he said he wanted to live on his own and that he didn't want to take care of us anymore
When I watched this film, I was so small, and fell in love with Jim and Silver. Recently, I watched this film again as an adult, who work with kids now, I empathized with Silver deeply. I was totally convinced how Jim and he developed their relationship, and how he developed as a character. Adults raise children, but children help adults develop as human beings, too.
Dude, the fact that you don't hear a LINE of dialog after the first 10 seconds, but you feel more for the attachment between these two in three minutes than you might from entire FRANCHISES...what a masterpiece, and SHAMEFUL that its over looked by so many.
i remember one day waking up and seeing my mum like 2:19 when my dad moved out of our house. it stayed on my mind since and that part of the movie made me feel identified. so sad it underrated, it is a beautiful movie.
In an icebreaker my teacher asked what movie made you cry last. I said this. He kinda laughed at the movie name, so I revisited the sence to see if it still got me. Ive been crying hysterically for the last ten minutes. It's been at least 5 years sence I cryed like this.
I really like how the movie doesn't even explain why Jim's dad left, in a way it made the audience feel as confused and lost as Jim did.
Gives it that extra level of ambiguity, which makes it 100x more enjoyable and meaningful
i could completely relate to Jim's past, my mother left my dad and I. Never knew why she couldn't at least visit. Single parenting is hard whether you're a mom OR dad. One can't bring to the table what the other can do better. It's tough but this movie tells the viewer "there are always parental figures you'll meet out there to teach you." thats what I love about this film.
He went out to buy milk
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I also think it portrays quite well that the reason doesn't matter - no matter what the reason might have been it is no excuse to walk out on your kid. They don't deserve to suffer for your own shortcomings.
How often do you see a villain become a father figure to the antagonist of the story. Wonderful character development.
I think you meant protagonist, instead of antagonist. Antagonist = Villian. Protagonist = Main character
Brandon Jackson and then back again
I have a theory that maybe that guy is his dad, because if I remember correctly his dad was in the military or whatever, which could explain the missing limbs of the pirate through war? Idk
Yeah but the cyborg isn't human fam.
Lord Rndom ah true true, would've been a cool plot twist hahah
Imagine a world where Treasure Planet did well, and inspired a whole franchise.
would have been a better world, with many inspired young men
Disney probably would have ruined it Tbh
What we can imagine would be so much cooler than anything that would actually happen because the bean counters would ruin it
I promise you man. If I ever ever in my lifetime get this chance… imma do right by you.
Tbh, I don’t think I know anyone who doesn’t at least know of Treasure Planet, and I definitely don’t know anyone who actually doesn’t like it (except for the occasional bigot, but even then I might know only a couple)
This movie is horrendously underrated!
+Clayton Baker *echoes yes for the whole eternity* yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
+Clayton Baker YES
* This movie is horrendous
Just my opinion ^-^
Nobody cares.
You know the relationship between Jim and Silver really works in this movie. You can really see that Silver really fills the void that Jim's father never tried to, and that Jim brings out good in Silver by filling a void that he didn't know he had.
Beautiful.
Yeah, when I first watched this movie about a week ago,...(don't judge me.) I was sorta...crying.
Its something not present in the original novel that actually makes me think the movie eclipses it
@@credinzel6996 it's okay bro, the feels are real
@@credinzel6996 its ok we all did hahaha
This is probably one of the most underrated movies ever. Can't believe this movie came out almost 20 years ago time really flies damn.
I don't really care what people say I love this film and it's a good film 1 of my favourite disney origins films
This and Iron Giant
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You guys wanna' know something really depressing?...
This movie was supposed to have a sequel AND its own TV series. They had everything planned out; the story, the characters... it was all being worked on at that time and many concept art were already selected.
It was only after eight months of hard work and serious planning that they received a phone call saying the project was officially cancelled, due to a lack of interest in the first film from the general public.
SUCH A WASTE.
elitadream Maybe it's for the best. Disney sequels at the time were never on par with the originals.
Hm, a rather valid point, I'll admit, but... 'sigh'.. just looking at the beautiful concept art that had been done tells me the movie would have *at least* had great potential.
(Not to mention that said movie would also have shown the one thing I have been itching to know since seeing Treasure Planet for the first time; Being, what happened to Silver.)
... I'm just sad that a load of perfectly good and creative ideas, as well as a great deal of time and effort from incredibly talented artists, were wasted just because of 'previous gain' issues.
It probably would have been akin to the Atlantis sequel. If I remember correctly, that was actually the first few episodes of the cancelled TV show just put together. They were also going to have a ride at Disneyland.
+elitadream Still, the sequel would have been a typical Disney sequel as opposed to a sequel it deserved.
+elitadream really? I though it was an awesome movie I can't see how there was a lack of interest from the general public in the film...damn I hope they make it someday... although I don't think so :P
Gotta give Disney props for having a divorce instead of just brutally offing one of the parents. I completely forgot how mature this movie was in that it showed a father walking out on his family. I know what a parents divorce is like, but was lucky enough to have both parents still in my life.
Geoff Roach is it really a divorce? looks lik Jim's father just ran away
i always thought the father left for an expedition/adventure thing and never came back and was assumed dead, like the mom was crying bc she didnt want him to leave bc she knew how dangerous it was
I think it's more that Jim's dad was leaving on a journey, and therefore his family, for good. It's implied that he was barely around when he WAS there for Jim, but obviously Jim looked up to him cause he went to space all the time. So it's more of a "I have to go on this trip, I probably wont be coming back because it's dangerous, but it doesn't matter anyway."
Robert Amison Oh dude, could you imagine a Treasure Planet prequel based around a war in that universe?! How fucking cool would that be?!
Yes, it is a divorce. Mother's crying, Dad has his stuff packed up, leaves without telling Jim...you know.
I think the best characterization about this segment is that you don't see Jim half-assing any of the jobs he's being given. He acts defiant, he gets an attitude, but he uses that drive to prove wrong what HE thinks Silver's (or every adult in his life) expectations are of him. The only difference is that Silver's noticing all the hard work Jim is putting forth and he recognizes him for it.
It's how you can tell that Jim wasn't too far down the wrong path, all it took was an empathetic man like Silver to set him on the right path again.
That’s EXACTLY how I feel most of the time.
thats beautiful, wish I had someone like that
I couldn't agree more to that, the character development are so beautiful in this movie
I don't think jim was on right or wrong tract , he's still young deep inside him is good boy and caring all it need is someone can illuminate his path and understand him just like silver gave him a chance to act comfortably
I love the multiple layers of irony to this. The villain of the story is the one who shows Jim how to be a better person. It’s also pretty clear Silver is only hard on Jim to keep him distracted from what’s actually going on but ends up actually caring about Jim in the end. Him doing this to Jim is the thing that ultimately softens Silver. It’s so great.
You know what this film is successful. It didn't need to win an oscar, it didn't need to make tons of money.
It had to touch people. This film did touch me and from all the comments and the people I watch this with, it touches them too. See that's the great thing about Disney, even their underrated and lesser known films have the power to touch many souls.
It's successful by story, but wasn't successful in the box office.
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that's what makes Disney excellent
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Agreed
If you ask me, the Cyborg wasn't exactly an antagonist, he was the mentor that Jim needed in his life since his dad left him. That friendship they had is probably the greatest chemistry between protagonist and "antagonist" ever in a disney film.
I agree with that completely. I'm a writer myself, one day I hope to write something similar to their relationship.
Long John Silver is one of the most iconic fictional pirates of all time, and this sci-fi version of him didn't disappoint.
He is an antagonist in the beginning though. Throughout the movie even while building his bond with Jim and slowly growing soft his goal is always the treasure and he won't let even Jim get in the way and ends up betraying him for it. Its not til he's tested that he realizes what's more important and changes into someone better but still keeps his mischievous personality. That was the whole point though is that they both changed each other for the better but he was still an antagonist.
kaijuumafoo I agree and that's actually how "antagonists" in the real world work. You may or may not ever like them, but in the long run what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
I know, this really got to me...also...Is John Silver the first Disney character to go from villain , to a good guy?
(Sorta...?)
I really love how;
- we never see his dad's face
- it was already a sad, complicated home even when Jim was just a toddler. There were already problems, presumably early in his parents' relationship.
- that Jim is effected by his dad's neglect when he IS home.
Your parents don't have to be gone to be emotionally absent. That was already hurting Jim and making him feel like he wasn't worth it.
Yeah even when he was there it was obvious that he didn't really want to know. The obvious half-hearted pat on the head, it's a gesture of minimum effort from someone doing just enough to acknowledge Jim without actually having to engage with him.
The fact that he then didn't even think his son was worth AN explanation of any kind. Not even a letter if he didn't want to do it face to face, he just left. Plus with all the noise Jim was obviously making as he ran, I doubt he was unaware Jim was chasing after him, he just didn't care.
We get no indication that he beat Jim or anything like that, but he still harmed him in a very real way. It is not good for a child to feel like a unwanted obligation.
When I was young, my dad would work all the time and I’d never see him. He eventually started taking weekends off but it wouldn’t matter cause he still wouldn’t spend time with me and always shut himself off in his room and for that reason, among others, he feels like a stranger to me.
Which makes it all the sweeter that Silver became the father Jim deserved.
"Your parents don't have to be gone to be emotionally absent" damn this hits deep
Real
I am saddened that there was no sequel to this film but seeing the current direction of Disney in the quality of films, I don't want them to touch this movie. You don't ruin a masterpiece.
cali115 its a real shame that not many people appreciate this as a masterpiece
They did plan a dvd release for a sequel. But unfourtuity it diddent make it.
Hey, incredibles 2 was good, I think maybe they can do the sequel for this
YASSS I WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO REUNITE
you said it, too bad they never put Treasure planet in Kingdom Hearts
This sequence is one of the most heart warming scenes Disney has ever produced, the music, the imagery, what a beautiful scene from an overlooked amazing film.
Heartwarming and tragic.
This is one of the most original concepts disney has ever come up with along with lilo and stitch zootopia and atlantis. If you like this film pick up a copy of rise of the guardians. Another well done animated film with strong characters and at times extremely bittersweet story.
I cant agree more
I'm really sad it didn't do well. I really enjoyed this movie when I was a kid.
As a kid I loved this movie and rewatching this scene man...
I love that scene of Jim just staring at Silver for a second affectionately, like a little kid looking at his dad again. He clearly wasn't listening to a word he was saying, he didn't need too, Jim can fly a boat, and was just happy to be with him.
Cheshire Waltz. You got the makings of greatness in you, but you gotta take the helm and chart your own course! Stick to it, no matter the squalls! And when the time comes, you'll get the chance to really test the cut of your sails and show what you're made of! And... well, I hope I'm there, catching some of the light coming off you that day.
I never noticed that before, that's just precious
And appreciating that he teaches him
@@tottoro7830I know (April 3rd,2024 and April 5th,2024/🙂).
my feelings
I know precisely this makes how feel, because it makes me feel the same way.😿
Every. Dang. One ....
Same.
I agree with this statement
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If you don't think that Treasure Planet is vastly underrated as a Disney movie, we can't be friends.
Agree. Treasure planet deserves better!
Honestly, treasure planet was and always is my favourite disney movie
2:05 This part is fantastic, John gets on the boat and goes off screen, and it reminds Jim of how his father left him, and as his dad leaves, it cuts back to John coming back and telling Jim to get on. It's so simple, but damn that is such a good moment
Edit: I forgot to mention that Jim is visibly upset when John exits the screen, and visibly happy when he comes back, and that's specifically what I love about it
yeah that got me good.
As a kid i didn’t fully connect it all but now an adult and it got me crying- its so perfectly done 😭
I also like how this song is the only time we see his dad at all. Like it's not something Jim thinks about or wants to. Only when he has another father figure and realizes he to could leave do these thoughts come to the forefront for Jim, which we see here. And it is only broken by that father figure proving the fears of his dad leaving wrong. That he is worth it and people do want him in their lives. And it snaps Jimbo back to the present
In almost every disney movie the main character has only one parent because of death and usually they just tell us about how the person died and that's sad on it’s own. But in this movie the parent doesn’t die but just leaves his child and never comes back. In a way that's more sad than death. And just by the way they told us how Jim's father left not with words but with the visual and the song was just brilliant and amazing. How is this not more popular than frozen? Seriously this is Disneys best movie hands down.
EDIT: Wow I wrote this 9 years ago. I still think this movie is better than Frozen and it deserves way more recognition.
For real. Lots of kids, myself included, has experienced life with divorced parents. Divorce is more real than death for me.
Cubix atleast if the parent/s died the kid still know that they died unwillingly, and they didnt want to leave their kid behind. but watching your parent made that choice to leave you is more painful than anything
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Cubix, you said it! Everybody usually remembers mufasas death from the lion king but Jim’s dad leaving both him and his mother also hits home real hard.
Well my dad left me too at a young age 😪
I’m rewatching this movie again as an adult, and I’m amazed to see how Jim never really did anything wrong. He had an attitude and was defiant, but ultimately he did everything everyone expected him to do, and did his best (even if it was just to prove people wrong). It’s such a perfect depiction of how it feels to be a teenager: trying your best but somehow still missing the beats everyone’s looking for.
My adopted dad played this for me a few days ago and I cried in front of his two kids 8 and 10. He used to put this on for me as a kid, I would make him replay it the second it ended and make him watch it again. He always would tell me as much as he saved me I saved him, I think watching this as an adult made me realise it’s not about who’s ur family but who loves and cares for u regardless.
That’s beautiful man I’m really happy for you! I feel the same way about my adoptive grandparents
Your comment just made me break down into hysterical sobs. I wish so badly every child could experience what you described.
@@psychobratt I say I’m blessed, life’s hard and it could’ve been way harder if I didn’t have an Angel like him swoop me up in his wings. I’m so appreciative that my experience moved you
Probably the best underrated disney movie (^__^)
I think that would go to Alantis, or Meet The Robinsons. Treasure Planet is my favorite Disney movie, Meet the Robinsons is second
PokémonTrainerJakob I don't think Meet The Robinsons is as underrated. I've seen Meet The Robinsons on TV WAY more often than Treasure Planet....meaning MTR: Like 4-5 times. TP: Never.....
PokémonTrainerJakob I LOVE Meet the Robinsons!
Paul Gilbert Ananayo I like how this is the only Disney movie where the absence of a parental figure actually plays into the character's tendencies.
Yeah, totally agree with you TheChildofAuraReborn :)
You could really feel the betrayal that Jim felt, when he found out the truth.
True. But you can also see how happy and surprised he is when Silver saves him over the treasure, not just "oh I'm not gonna die" happy but, "my friend isn't gone" happy.
Also the sequence at 2:07 when at first he's happy he's helping plenty and then seeing Silver get on the boat alone reminds him of his father leaving.... and then the sheer happiness when instead of fleeing Silver invites him on the boat to teach him how to fly it
absolutely broke my heart
But it wasn't the actual truth. Mr. Silver had a goal and needed his crew to follow his lead to accomplish that goal. If you are soft to your crew they will overthrow and take control. But he really felt a deep connection with Jim. Really touching movie
As a child my father left me without a say. I searched for a father figure all my life. Now as a father of 2 I believe I got a chance to do it right with them. Having them turned my life around for the better good
I know 100% that you're a amazing dad
Good man
Hey bro, you're awesome.
You gave them and became the father you needed but never had
If it weren't for him Jim never would have been so noble. He was an antihero who in the end chose Jim. They brought out the best in one another, they needed each other.
Good relationship. Good movie.
Late answer to an old comment but still...
In many ways, Silver is Jim... As in, if Jim hadn't got the father-figure of Silver at that time, he would have ended up replacing parts of his body, to look for and obsessing about the "treasure".
All while Silver was waiting to hatch an evil plan
Disney, what happened to that story telling magic?
I feel as though this film wasn't appreciated enough. The story of this is a thousand times better than that of modern day Disney films, such as Frozen for example. This should be recognised as one of the best, and I feel so sorry for the parents and children who never saw this or ever will.
***** I am really sorry about that, my parents don't live together anymore which I am actually really happy about because my Dad verbally abused me quite a lot when I was younger. These songs remind me of happier times :)
***** If you believe in God that is fine, but I'm an Atheist and my Boyfriend help me got through self-harm, suicide and so did my friends.
***** Not to offend you but I turn to myself for answers and get through them on my own, which I always had to do anyway. I'd rather be able to rely on myself or someone close to me whom knows me and can help me directly.
Well..that's your opinion..and..know what, I'll say some random question. Do you think Disney is trying to make their own original stories?
Yes, I know this comment is two years old.
I'm glad I saw this as a kid
This movie deeply spoke to a whole generation of fatherless boys who never fully understood what they're missing out on. No wonder it is so underrated.....speaks volumes
Fatherless daughter here, me too.
I miss the 2D animation because back when Disney was doing 2D animation, almost all of their movies had a different animation style that made them unique. From Pocahontas with its painted-like backgrounds, to Mulan where every cloud of dust, foam, or snow was an unfurling motion, and Princess and the Frog where almost every happy scene had such a golden glow to it.
My only issue with the 3D animation that's being done now is that it will get outdated extremely quick, and there's no variety to the style. Rapunzel, Anna, Elsa, and soon Princess Moana all have the exact same facial build.
TheChildofAuraReborn
Same can be said with horror films imo.
Puppets > CGI
Yeah their 2d animation could have more cartoonish things and look different each time.
They said (2004) Home on the range is the reason why 2D animation stopped but they still didn't care and made Princess and the frog and (2011) Winnie the Pooh had a low box office so Walt Disney animated studios just sticks with computer animation
***** Not in the general features, no. It's obvious that they're not similar in terms of things like hair, skin, clothing, etc.
But they have eerily similar facial build, not necessarily a bad thing but it doesn't always look good. Rapunzel, Moana, and the Frozen sisters all have very large, round eyes, very round head structures, and most of their features are within close range of each other. Visually, the design choices are made because to the human eye, it's meant to look cute and baby-ish, and it appeals to us. It's Disney's design choice, more so in recent years, when it comes to women.
***** What do you mean? I just explained it once. because you implied that you couldn't see it.
(Long-ass wall of text, be prepared)
I didn't say Disney was the only studio to partake in "same face", I just said that they did it; the thing is that everyone applauds them for "physical diversity" and it is a lot of undeserved praise.
Studio Ghibli and Tim Burton are poor examples to use because both of those animation companies look the same due to style, they are characteristics of the style. Tim Burton uses large terrified eyes, gloomy colors, and scribbly-looking outlines (present around the eyes and within details) to add a gloomy look, but they're not all the same. Look at all the characters in Corpse Bride, not a one of them look alike to each other. Emily is decayed, yet she has a fuller figure and with more emphasized lips and nose, whereas Victoria is petite, with smaller features that are less pronounced. Victor is tall and scrawny with very large, nervous eyes; Lord Barkis is more elegantly kept in clothing and appearance with a large chin and more robust figure.
Further, Studio Ghibli's also different. Chihiro from "Spirited Away" compared to Ponyo from the same movie are not one and alike: Ponyo's face is overall rounder and her eyes are bigger and wider without eyelashes. Chihiro's face is longer because she's a young girl (yet older), her eyes are smaller and she has eyelashes. Howl from "Howl's Moving Castle" and Haku from "Spirited Away" are also different; Haku's features, like his eyes and chin, are more pointed (due to appearing cold and aloof most of the time), Howl's facial aspects are more feminine and larger (because he's overall more friendly and warm in appearance).
Not defending anime or Don Bluth because yes, they are very same faced. But again, it's not the fact that Disney has same-face, it's the fact that people praise "muh diversity" when there's very little present at all in Disney anymore (and even back then).
Thankyou for posting this song. When I was a little girl my father and I would whatch the movie just to hear this song. He used to get very emotional durring the song. Unfortunately I never got to ask him why he recently died for a prolonged illness. I miss the images of a better time with him and this song allowed me to revisit them thankyou.
I'm glad I could help you on that. ;]
That was a very beautiful thing to say. I came to this song for a similar reason.
I'm very sorry for your loss
Morgan Neyland thank you
Morgan Neyland Hey about what I posted I didint mean that someoen I knew had died. I apologize, I should have been more specific
2:00 “Can you help me be a man”
I was lucky enough to grow up with a dad who taught me continues to teach me everything he knows, that line still hits me like a bullet.
This movie is a masterpiece.
One of the best and most underrated Disney movies. Every time this part comes on, I get close to crying. As a Dad, I try to spend a lot of time with my son. As a teacher, I can’t help but want to spend time helping all these poor kids who have had to grow up without a male figure.
It is seriously so special. You're awesome for caring about being a good father. You should check out my analysis video on the movie on my channel that I just released. It talks about why the movie is spectacular, and also why it was never as big as other great Disney movies!
I don't care what people think or say I love this film its 1 of my favourite disney origins movies
I’m not a father yet, but this movie and especially these scenes make me appreciate my own father.
As someone who grew up without my dad it does hit different
There's a TH-cam channel about a guy that grew up in foster care and when he became a dad himself he had to learn all of these things to be able to teach his son and then he started putting them online. Now there's a whole section of things a dad should teach on TH-cam that these kids can reach out to now and even if there's no relationship to build at least they won't suffer from not knowing the information
This scene plus the heart breaking comments about their father leaving when they were a young age.
I couldn't hold back the tears.
My father is still with me and it breaks my heart when people tell their story about their parents just leaving.
Yeah, it sure is. 😟🙁😔
This punch you in the face
Ikr
There a lot of father at people home but it still as they aren’t there
Same. I cry because I know people who went through this.
2:08 i love how Jim's past comes back to try and hurt him again, but then Silver comes back and asks Jim to join him. and that smile at 2:45 is just so genuine.
Best childhood movie ever. I can totally relate to Jim.
zto101 totally agree
You mean best movie ever* period
Agreed
Same here
Things this movie teaches:
A bad man can learn to be a good father, and be a good man
A misfit can learn to fit in, and appreciate what he has, not what he lost
The treasure in life isn’t the wealth we chase, but the people who mean the most to us
Self confidence can lead to a very prosperous relationship (Science dog and captain cat)
This movie got me to call my step dad, “dad” instead of his real name
👏👏
"science dog and captain cat"
@@sid6076 That's so sweet 🥺
science dude is a dog??? pls tell me they didn’t say that in the movie i’ve watched it four times and could nvr figure out wat he was. 😝
As a dad, and as a son I cannot understand how anyone can pass on the gift of being THAT person in a child's life. You get one shot, don't blow it. Here, it's all the bettter because Silver owes no obligation to Jim but becomes a father to him. My own dad veered from being physically abusive, to being absent, to being neglectful. To this day (I am 56) he still offers only negativity. I got NOTHING from our relationship but an example of what NOT to be to my child. Had several people that I encountered that were like Silver but regretfully all of them had their own commitments.
I didn't have a great relationship with my father either. I'm 30 now and I wish we had a better relationship. I eas lucky that I had a great father figure in my step-dad.
I did not understand the meaning behind the part from 2:10 to 2:45 until now. When Silver left, he got reminded of how his dad left, but unlike his dad, Silver came back and took him along on the ride even gave him the reins. Fudge this song and movie became much more emotional now. I didn't understand this movie much when I was a kid but enjoyed it. Now, since I am older, everything makes so much more sense and it's all more emotional.
I agree. Back then i thought he had a job and had to leave but later on died. But know its like wow.
Same, I loved this film back then, but seeing all the details I missed, I love it even more now.
mind blown!!
Yes! I just notice that detail and it stung. Beautiful visual storytelling.
Yeah that little detail is so much more powerful when you watch it when your older. Little kid me missed that detail completely
Its crazy that the director of this film Ron Clements who directed alot of the disney renaissance films such as Little Mermaid, Aladdin, and Hercules, he wanted to make Treasure Planet before all of these great movies and Disney told him no and thought it was a bad idea. He kept bugging them about it until they said "well you helped us with all these movies we will let you have your project" and they didnt even care about Treasure Planet and supplied it with barely any marketing budget and put it out with other blockbuster movies at the time. Crazy that Ron Clements realized the potential of the movie but Disney did not.
And thanks to their negligence it did not receive the critical claim that it deserved.
Blame Jeffrey Katzenberg for that. It was him who kept refusing Ron Clements and John Musker's dream project of making Treasure Planet. In fact, only when Katznberg was fired was the project finally green-lighted. Then again Katzenberg thought that The Lion King was a terrible idea that was no doubt gonna flop. That tells everything.
2:42 this part of the song always brings a tear to my eye the way Silver comes back for Jim to let him ride.
Never will i understand why this movie gets so much hate from critics
My father left when i was 11, and i can understand as a boy who was raised by a single mother. There is something missing. Sure mothers give you the care, love & nurture but the fathers are the ones who usually teach, inspire, guide & encourage.
Growing up i had some envy to my classmates, they seemed to possess a sense of direction & clarity who they are, and as a boy growing up i always lacked it. And probably other men raised by single mothers do.
You and me because my father lift me and brothers and sisters when I was 6 years old and I haven't seen since I was 9 and it been hard for me and my mom and brothers and sisters
That's not always the case even with both parents I still feel I don't know who I am or what to do with myself. Not saying my parents are horrible they certainly aren't the best but they do some things right but still.
Nobody asked. STFU
Nobody asked whether anybody asked.
I relate so hard to this comment and this song. My parents divorced when I was 4. My dad was still physically in my life, and my brother and I saw him often. He even lived in the same town as my mom. But that's all he really was, is physically there. That makes it hard because it's hard to point out what's missing when you physically go to your dad's house like every weekend. It's taken me until my 20s to really see how much was lacking in my relationship with my dad. Once, in college, I went something like 2 whole months without seeing or talking to him, and it struck me how much I didn't even miss him, barely even thought about him. Like there's this entire part of me that's missing, and I can't even tell it's gone. Can't even feel the loss of what was never even there to begin with.
I remember watching this as a kid and not fully understanding it, now looking back I am tearing up...
Same here....
Dame here too...
Yeah, I hated this movie as a kid since it was too angsty for me, and now as an adult, I can’t stop rewatching its scenes.
On the millionth rewatch I JUST NOTICED!!! That when Jim falls asleep after washing dishes, Silver puts HIS OWN COAT over him. Until now I thought it was just a blanket, but him putting his coat just makes it SOOO much sweeter and more sentimental
This scene never really effected me as a kid. Now though....
Ace Master Shady ikr!
MintAndPurple it sure affected me as a kid..
2:08 I never realised after so many times watching this film that Jim looks upset because Silver flying away reminds him of the memory of his father leaving
Same
Except Silver came back and let Jim take the reigns as the young lad flew them through the tail of a comet
I’m having a very emotional moment right here, thank you everyone for sharing this with me. I’m 23. This was (and will always stay) my forever favourite animation since 2005.
And the scene itself became more personal, due to my current situation.
Hell, is this movie underrated.
I hope everything’s getting better for you, buddy. I’m honestly here for the same reason 😅
Same bro, Same
same
Yeah, this movie shows real human emotion that all of us can relate to in different ways. We all need somebody to believe in us and to help us in our own journey through life.
Same here man, 23 and not will openly admit this is the only film to make me get emotional and I’ve not even lost my dad.
"(Not) a moment that's held in your arms."
I finally get it. Jim wishes his mom would stop seeing him as the tiny little child she once cradled, because he can't grow up or earn respect if she always treats him like that.
I am a question to the world
Not an answer to be heard
Or a moment that's held in your arms
And what do you think you'd ever say
I won't listen anyway
You don't know me
And I'll never be what you want me to be
And what do you think you'd understand
I'm a boy ' No, I'm a man
You can't take me and throw me away
And how can you learn what's never shown
Yeah you stand here on your own
They don't know me
'Cause I'm not here
And I want a moment to be real
Wanna touch things I don't feel
Wanna hold on and feel I belong
And how can the world want me to change
They're the ones that stay the same
They don't know me
'Cause I'm not here
And you see the things they never see
All you wanted I could be
Now you know me and I'm not afraid
And I want to tell you who I am
Can you help me be a man
They can't break me
As long as I know who I am
And I want a moment to be real
Wanna touch things I don't feel
Wanna hold on and feel I belong
How can the world want me to change
They're the ones that stay the same
They can't see me
But I'm still here
They can't tell me who to be
'Cause I'm not what they see
Yeah the world is still sleepin'
While I keep on dreamin' for me
And their words are just whispers and lies
That I'll never believe
And I want a moment to be real
Wanna touch things I don't feel
Wanna hold on and feel I belong
And how can they say I'll never change
They're the ones that stay the same
I'm the one now
'Cause I'm still here
I'm the one
'Cause I'm still here
I'm still here
I'm still here
I'm still here
💗
God I get so emotional seeing this scene. I never had dad issues myself,but seeing Jim grow up with his dad barely being part of it really got to me,the scene where we see that Jim's dad just got up and left never to return really got me choked up
i don't care what people say about this movie being so underrated i still love this movie to bits. I watched it a lot when i kid and still love it as an adult. I love the story, the characters, the art style and moments. The relationship between John Silver and Jim is just awesome. Hell even when i have kids im gonna show this to them to show how awesome this movie is.
Exactly what I have planned too mate (':
I'm going to show them all my favorites, and cry my eyes out at any sad parts ; -;
MetalSolidCrisis *hands you a tissue box* hold in the tears if it's too much for you
+Ryza Cobalion no lie dude, just finished tearing up lmao
MetalSolidCrisis lol THE FEELS
Silver's laugh at the beginning makes me smile.
Sitting here bawling my eyes out to this video comparing it to my life. My dad left when I was young and the part where he runs down the stairs was exactly like me as a kid I ran down one morning and he was gone I remember running to the window and the front door trying to chase after him. My grandfather took me under his wing raised me as his own and taught me everything I know today. He wasn’t an easy man to work with or even live alongside over the years but he stepped in and filled the shoes of my father which I will always respect him for.
Exactly the same for me, stay strong my man
Your not alone bro. I'm 23 now and this movie makes me appreciate all the male role models i had. i still get a little sad when i watch this.
Treasure Planet was supposed to have a TV series in the same vein as Aladdin and Hercules if it did as well as was expected in the box office. It would've been about Jim going to various planets.
I'll like to see that!
Jesus Christ :( that would've been awesome
I'm kind of happy that it didn't happened though. Because "Tarzan & Jane" and "Atlantis 2" are terrible, and they're both a compilation of the three first episodes of a tv show that never happened.
I like Atlantis 2! I just like all the unpopular things, haha. But man, I'd've loved to see that!!
Atlantis 2 wasn't bad but it wasn't great, I was annoyed that they didn't use Michael J Fox again for Milo's voice. Tarzan and Jane was awful.
This scene always reminds me of how I had to grow up without a father. He walked of my life when I was 5. Found out he had died when I was 13. All these years, I had to teach myself how to be a man, and thus I have succeeded without him. I am now 22. But yeah..a lot of us can relate to Jim and what he went through.
FighterBlackBear at 27, do you feel the same my man? Timeless
I understand what you had to go through. I know how bad this sounds, but my father was present but lived like a stranger in my life. Here I am the same age as you and I had to do the same. I had to grow up and become a better man without his hands in my life.
Aww, mine walked out when i was like ~5 (i can't even remember), started a new family when i was 20 and got himself two more kids. At the family gatherings he looks like the happiest sod alive with them around. I'm still like "the fuck i did?."
Years of appreciating this movie and just now realizing 0:36 this moment foreshadows Jim tying everyone's lifelines later on. Jim had always been listening and goes above and beyond everything Silver throws at him, and Silver sees all of it. So it's why Silver never thought Jim messed up with the lifelines
Wow I never picked up on this thank you for pointing that out
Oh crap. The feelings this brought me is so real I cried. This was one of my favorite movies growing up. Unlike other movies I payed attention to everything about this movie. It's still one of the best movies I've ever seen, and me growing up without a father I really related to Jim. There was most likely nothing I didn't like about this movie, because it was just so perfect to me. I literally still have the old dvd in my closet in a secure place because I really treasured it. ;w;
this was a good movie and that song was my favorite part of the whole thing. we still have the DVD from when it came out. my dad was the type that decided that his second wife (my step mom) was more important than us. didn't see it coming, she the step mom also decided that we weren't worth a second thought, or maybe even a first thought. either way the song resonated with me, and I loved it. even the part in the movie where he thinks the alien with the pink squishy is going to leave him behind, that hit home too.
Same thing, when ever there was a moment showing the friendship between Jim, and John, I sometimes...sorta cry...
But this song made my cry while watching it, and this is really impressive to me, as this is the first Disney movie that has ever made me cry. The only animated movie to make me cry, was The Iron Giant.
I had the original VCR tapes but my parents tossed it out when I wasn't around.....
I totally agree. I always fill up with tears at this scene, and empathise with Jim's predicament when I watch this movies with my kids. What an underrated classic
When Silver came back for Jim, I had to pause the movie and weep. No movie has ever done this to me. As someone who never had a father figure growing up but never really thinks about it, this movie hit something deep inside.
Why can't Disney make movies like this anymore. This was a great part of my childhood and it help me to learn I could be and do anything.
I don't know. But I think Disney's trying to make original plots now. Frozen has taken inspiration from the Snow Queen, Big Hero 6 I- actually...I think they just based the movie off a comic...Wreck-It-Ralph is one..Moana...not sure..And we have The Good Dinosaur Coco coming soon. This is basically their second attempt of making original stories (I think) The first time they tried..like Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Home On The Range, The Emperor's New Groove, and Treasure Planet..All bombed except for two...I think...know what, never mind this.
because disney is interested in one thing: money
Because the Karens are offended by everything.
God forbid Disney actually makes an original movie with charcaters that kids can relate to, pretty animation, a solid story with mature themes, and, get this, a kick-ass music score that will blow all Kids Bop crap clear out of the water.
And the animations oh my
Oh man, I love Emperor's New Groove, that movie was awesome, sequel was ok but still I love it. Atlantis was awesome too, though it's sequel was less than ok. I don't really remember Home on the Range though, I might need to look it up on Disney+ if it's there. Am I weird for liking the underrated movies? Maybe? Maybe not?
The Disney movies that are inspired by the classic pieces of Literature are , by far, the best of all that Disney has made. This one, in particular, was a very imaginative venture - turning 'Treasure Island' into 'Treasure Planet', brilliant work. The movie was so exceptionally good and classy, that it didn't appeal to mainstream morons - but that was to be expected.It was a real work of thought - all the dialogues, art and soundtrack are so well orchestrated - and perhaps this result made it a little high end, much beyond the scope of comprehension of Disney's actual target audience. It's sad really, that such a work of art is so underappreciated.
so very true. I mean they literally had a breathable space!! how cool is that!! the wasted possibilities :(
the problem is the singer, in French it was way better. th-cam.com/video/vhhJb-GVUdE/w-d-xo.html
It’s unfortunate that this Disney movie didn’t do as well as the executives wanted, and yet there’s still the fans who treasure it dearly even after all these years :3 this movie is tied with being my favourite Disney film of all time
:3
Possibly the most underrated Disney film.
Astounding animation, great soundtrack, and an amazing message. How did this not get more recognition?!
Tbh the animation is not that good. It's clunky and ugly. This obvious merge of cgi and hand drawn images just doesn't go well, the movie looks bad. Bad other than that, I love this movie to bits, I weep that it never got a sequel.
+borek921 I actually thought it looked quite good. I own it on blu-ray and personally it's eye candy for me. And for one of the first attempts to combine the two animation types at the time, it wasn't that bad.
It actually was going to get a sequel at some point and even a TV show but lack of interest prevented it doing so. It was going to be a continuation.
"The sequel was to pick up where the first film left off, with Jim Hawkins going to the Royal Interstellar Academy. At the Academy, he is a hotshot “natural,” but he doesn’t follow the rules very well. Hence, he gets off to a shaky start - especially with his classmate Kate, who is very smart and has a type A personality. Kate’s father is Admiral Blake, the Commander of the Navy. Jim and Kate vie for top of the class but have very different skills."
To be honest if Jim was supposed to hit it off with some typical romance sap I'm kind of glad they didn't go through it, haha.
I did some reading about the sequel some time ago, I learned that Treasure Planet was a financial disaster, it saddens me when I see Frozen blowing up and gems like this are left and forgotten. I mean Frozen is ok and all but it doesn't deserve the attention it got, I can't even put my finger on why it got so popular, I mean it's nothing groundbreaking, just another Disney fairy tale without any meaningful message or plot, at least that's the impression it gave me. Oh well, at least I can come back to this song wherever I please and get goosebumps one more time.
As for the animation, I dunno, the characters just feel disconnected from the world with their set in stone colors and shadowing while things areound them try to go for a more realistic look.
Well my friend, I have to say the animation is unique. Unlike other animation styles in other Disney films, this one stands out the most to me. Also, I think the mix of CGI and hand drawn animation is great.
Also, please, Treasure Planet having no sequel is a miracle. I don't want to see Disney ruin it just to make a couple bucks.
Actually not only is it CGI it also had Deep Canvas on it too. (Deep Canvas is animation program that animates geometric shapes i.e the vines that Tarzan slides on, and the wheel thingy that Jim goes through in the beginning of the movie.) In fact most of it was Deep Canvas (because the ship was Deep canvas and most of the movie was on a ship), the CGI was mostly used in Silver's robotic parts and Jim's Solar Sailboat.
Man this movie looks amazing.
I think it's one the best fantasy worlds that Disney has ever conjured up.
I actually want to live in this kind of Victorian era steampunk space... world. It's seriously friggin' beautiful.
Extremely underrated movie. I love the world too! You should check out my analysis video on the movie on my channel that I just released. It talks about why the movie is spectacular, and also why it was never as big as other great Disney movies!
What's really nice is the love these two develop here feels so real and develops in such a realistic feeling way
this is a very good movie, i cant understand why it isnt more popular
Logic.
Ironically, Disney is the reason why it isnt popular.
Because Disney, being the smart company it is, decided to release it alongside a Harry Potter film
this is like...the Anthem for kids with daddy issues (myself included) i really like it
Miranda Morgan I LUH YUH BAYBEE!
Miranda Morgan RESPOND TO ME BABY
Erm, that's how you make people uncomfortable online.
Miranda Morgan I didn't have daddy issues (although I didn't feel like my dad understood me that well either), but this was like, my theme song when I was 15; I was constantly listening to it. Now that I'm older I feel ashamed of how I acted during my teenage years, but it doesn't change the fact that this song perfectly encapsulated how I felt back then, and I still love it now.
This movie got to me...this is the first Disney movie to make me cry.
This is truly one of the best animated movie scenes of all time!
Yes that is true 👍 I love this scene so much means a lot to me I have this movie on dvd 📀
Something I just realized after rewatching this years later:
At 0:34 Silver teaches Jim how to tie a hangman’s knot, but Jim already knew how to make one. I never noticed it as a kid, but now I know how dark this part really is
I don't think Disney haves the enough balls to imply that Jim tried to kill himself once but I believe this small moment says that this is something he already knows how to do and he is unsatisfied on doing this again and he came to this ship in order to do something new and exciting. To actually do something of real use.
Beatie G I just thought it was a dark joke, Silver thinking that Jim hung himself to escape his tutelage.
I think that's a Sailors hitch. A hangman's knot is better for attaching things to things. If you wanted some thing darker you'd be looking for a Shepards Knot or a Half-Hitch. Better for making a Noose.
So thats actually a boatswains knot. Its commonly used in moaring and works like a reverse slipknot. You can actually tie just about anything down with a boatswains knot and it wouldn't move.
I doubt it was that grim. The real point of that scene was that Jim actually did take in from Silver how to make that knot, but immediately used it to skip out on Silver's class (lol). It was partly to show Jim's potential as a sailor, along with their relationship still needing building up over the course of the song.
I was asked what one of my favorite love songs was recently, and I mentioned this song and this movie specifically. They asked why, since it wasn’t meant to be romantic at all. I said that the only love songs that have any real affect on me are about familial love. This is literally a boy finding a father figure that he was pretty brutally deprived of, realizing that some old/deep scars hurt just a bit less now, receiving the attention/praise he always wanted, and stumbling upon family where he didn’t expect it, after he’d ran away from the only family he had left. And the two of them mentor-student bonding is so nice to see, I loved it ever since I was a little kid. The focus on their relationship building instead of a romance throughout the movie held my attention so much more even years later.
This is a scene that will make me cry every single time. You feel Jim’s pain in this whole entire scene. From the start of the film he is this teenager who is getting arrested making the bad decisions and it affects his mother. Later on things start to change for him. He meets silver and they both change each others lives for the better. We don’t need to understand why his father left him. The way they can convey the emptiness and hollowness and sadness with just how it feels when someone leaves you is exactly the face he makes in that scene and it makes me cry every single time. That is the face of someone who never healed from their childhood trauma. Then when he comes back he has a reason to smile again and that’s when we has the audience feel the same way. I don’t know why this movie is so underrated it will always be one of my most favorite movies of all time. I also love seeing how he stands strong with the chores that he was given by him and he didn’t slack off at all. It shows us that he’s growing but he’s becoming a man and he’s not that teenager who is making bad decisions anymore it’s just a beautiful film and I will always love it and that song in the way that it’s scored in with those scenes beautifully done.
I didn’t really think anything of this part of the movie until recently. My dad served my mom divorce papers, packed up his stuff and left, essentially mirroring the scene where Jim’s dad left. I watched this movie with my siblings and when that scene happened we were all quiet but the quiet felt a little more somber and deeper than before. It’s honestly become so much more relatable nowadays, and being able to listen to just the song has helped me progress towards healing each and every day that I listen to it.
I hope you’re doing well Mariah
This is criminally underrated movie ever! A milestone and end of an era as this was daineys last cartoon movie!
Agreed. This movie slaps
This has always been one of my favorite movies growing up but this scene right here is one of the hardest things to watch. My father is a wonderful man and an amazing dad but he is a Marine Corps combat veteran and when I watch this segment all I can think of was the image of him going away overseas with his seabag on his shoulder while three year old me is crying his eyes out. I'd seen so little of him for many years. It's been branded in my head ever since. I'm so fucking proud of my dad but I'm a grown ass man now, I've been in the Marines myself, work a heavy job in a factory and I'm a bodybuilder, and this scene still makes me choke like a little kid ahaha
How was your father when he was around, though? Was he as dismissive/distant as Jim's in the film, or did he actually give you attention/affection?
I only saw Treasure Planet for the first time a few days ago, and I loved it. It's very moving in places, and this montage with the song is easily my favourite. My dad wasn't absent and didn't leave, but I don't really think he should've been a father. His father was absent because he was killed as a navy sub crew in WWII... So mine just had no reference for what a father figure could/should be.
@@SabiJD - I thank God my father was nothing like Jim's dad in the movie. My father is an orphan, abandoned by his parents at an early age and grew up in foster homes and on the streets of South Side Chicago when gang violence was at an all time high, he never had a father figure because the only male models he had in his life were either his father that left him or murderous, drug addict gang members. Despite all that, he is one of the most caring men I've ever known and an amazing father, I don't know how he managed to become the person he is after such a childhood but he was hell bent on raising a family and never make the mistakes his parents did with him. And goddamn it he succeeded. Missed him so fucking much when he was overseas
There are no words how this movie makes me feel, it’s actually a shame how this movie did not get the credit it so deserves. It’s criminal!
This scene, and movie, made me so grateful that I still have my father with me. Even though I am an adult and live on my own, I know I can always count on him. He will have my back no matter what and will support me in my decisions. I love you, dad
They don’t make movies like this anymore. That send powerful messages to people watching and reach’s out and touches their audience. Movies like this instill core memories and ensure a lifetime of happiness, bring back old Disney ❤️
This is one of my favorite disney songs ever. It reaches up there with Phil Collins' work from Tarzan.
this is also one of my favorite Disney songs too I love it so much have it on my I pod listen to it all the time
I love how Silver's relationship with Jim progresses so naturally. He recognises from the get-go that Jim has been missing an older male figure in his life and that he can inspire authority and respect by filling it and use that authority to keep Jim in line without catching wind of the pirates' plans. However, he also recognises that whilst Jim has a slight attitude, there's a good reason for it, and he also shows great potential and intelligence. As such, he makes him continuously work the lower jobs for a time, which in turn motivates Jim to prove him wrong and earn his respect, and because Silver has such a charismatic aura and personality, Jim respects his orders in spite of his attitude. And finally, after seeing that Jim really means it, Silver begins entrusting him with more privileges and opportunities to show his talents, which Jim happily accepts, feeling truly recognised for the first time in his life by an older male figure he'd been lacking this whole time.
I dont know what makes me more emotional, this clip, the comments section, or the fact that this brilliant movie never got the respect it deserved 😭
This scene is one of very few things that actually gets me to cry
I almost cried the first I watched not gonna lie
This made me cry so much when I first saw it as a child ( and it still does ). I had a problrmatic dad, and created a lot of issues in my life. My mom raised me on her own but wasn't able to provide guidance that a father could possibly give. I was an angsty kid who didn't understand how to handle the saddness and frustration that I felt in my life. And I yearned for someone to understand what I feel. Jim's story really resonated with me. I would watch this movie again and again whenever I felt down.
I wish Disney do more movies like this. Not the " boss lady" type shows they make now. Great movies transcends gender, and provides inspiration regardless if the kid is a boy or girl. Jim's story really helped me brave my adulthood and inspired me to aspire for something better for me and my mom . Thanks Treasure Planet
This wasn’t in your recommendation, you came here to reminisce about your childhood because thats when we first watched this movie and fell in love with it.
2:08
I have a strong feeling that when Jim stopped smiling is because he felt like Cyborg was like his dad leaving him.
This song transcends even its own lyrics and expresses feelings that can't be put into words. True masterpiece.
This film will always play an important part of my life. When I was younger, my father was quite abusive and unrealible and would leave the house often. Due to this, I developed depression similarly to Jim and had a rebellious phase. It’s obviously wasn’t received well and only pushed my father and I to fight even more and drift further apart. But then there was a change in heart when my dad saw how much I was hurting due to his actions even when I put on a tough face. He eventually turned into Silver’s character where instead of abandoning me like he used to, decided to become more involved and grew to be more understanding than I thought could be possible. Now, he’s my biggest supporter. This whole film was a reflection of my journey with my father and initially I never thought I’d be able to have the relationship that Jim has with Silver but it was all worth it in the end.
Thx I go cry now. This song just hits hard everytime
Look, it's my early childhood.
And the song STILL speaks to me.
This movie meant so much for us kids without fathers…i started seeing my art teacher as one after this movie
Thanks Treasure Planet you made high school in 2008 bearable for me
I cry everytime I watch the scene where he's remembering the day his father left
After my parent's divorce my dad became absent in my life. He would go months without having any contact with me, and when he did it was either yelling and belittling me, or him trying to turn me against my mom. Despite my mom's best efforts he was absent from my life.
I love this movie because I can relate to Jim. And this scene beautifully animates Jim and Silver's relationship.
Once I was on a trip to a cabin with a big group of college friends, and I didn't bring a blanket (bc there was supposed to be enough for everyone, but there wasn't) so I was using my towel as a blanket and it barely covered all of me. In the early hours of the morning when I was still asleep, one of the guys gently put his blanket over me and I woke up just enough to register who did it before drifting back to sleep. It was so nice of him and honestly one of the tenderest things anyone has ever done for me. They captured that moment and feeling perfectly here.
So many flash backs. I remember my life 6 yrs ago. Just playing star craft while listening to this after school. Now im all grown up and working.
Its so nostalgic i miss my childhood days
Beautiful
which was Your main race in sc
During this year I watched this movie about 6 times, I just love it.. I can see myself through Jim, in this music.. I can't even tell how accurate the lyrics are... This is my all time favorite movie, my own little world in which I find peace...
I think what makes this film so enduring is that it's clearly a passion project, from the soundtrack to the animation there's not a moment of it that's not someone's labour of love. I think it was almost destined from the start to be a cult classic, I'm kind of glad the bean-counters never got to run it into the ground over the course of the '00s and early '10s like they inevitably would had done if the film had succeeded at the box office.
What I really loved about this - especially when I was younger - was how it showed Jim's insecurity and fear of feeling betrayed/pained by losing someone he's attached to without words. Him gradually starting to see Silver in the place of his father, and the moment he has this sharp unspeakable fear that he was leaving him like his own father had so long ago - but then that clears and the tempo picks up because Silver happily invites him on board. It reminded me of myself - so desperately wanting my father's approval and his presence, so deeply missing him but never being able to say it.
Of all movies that bring me back to childhood, this one is by far my favorite. I just can't believe it's almost 20 years old. Treasure Planet was severely underrated. A part of me wants to see a live action remake, whereas the child in me says that Disney would wreck it.
I love this scene so much.
I freakin cry every time.
The Moment, when Jim realizes that Silver wants him to come on the Boat, too is so heartwarming.
Especially when your Father left you, too. So damn good.
I also love this scene so much too and my dad left me and my sister and my mom when I was 4 and when my sister was 6 he said he wanted to live on his own and that he didn't want to take care of us anymore
Man those few seconds at 2:08 capture perfectly what it feels to be living with abandonment
When I watched this film, I was so small, and fell in love with Jim and Silver.
Recently, I watched this film again as an adult, who work with kids now, I empathized with Silver deeply.
I was totally convinced how Jim and he developed their relationship, and how he developed as a character.
Adults raise children, but children help adults develop as human beings, too.
Dude, the fact that you don't hear a LINE of dialog after the first 10 seconds, but you feel more for the attachment between these two in three minutes than you might from entire FRANCHISES...what a masterpiece, and SHAMEFUL that its over looked by so many.
i remember one day waking up and seeing my mum like 2:19 when my dad moved out of our house. it stayed on my mind since and that part of the movie made me feel identified. so sad it underrated, it is a beautiful movie.
In an icebreaker my teacher asked what movie made you cry last. I said this.
He kinda laughed at the movie name, so I revisited the sence to see if it still got me.
Ive been crying hysterically for the last ten minutes. It's been at least 5 years sence I cryed like this.
same 😭😭😭