To everyone confused: Plaster is not instead of the wax ring! It’s instead of the caulk. You set the toilet without the wax, trace the footprint of the base, pull the toilet, put down the wax, mix and set plaster along the pencil line, set the toilet and wipe…
Eh, I'm confused. It should be plaster of paris which is used to help level the toilet. It's not supposed to act as caulk or the wax ring, but deal with shitty floor jobs. If you are in a state like NY where buildings are decades old, you are going to find uneven floors often. The plaster of paris is also super easy to cleanup as it basically dissolves even when rock hard to a wet rag. Using plain plaster on the other hand will make a mess.
For a house we had in Florida, a plumber asked if I had any leftover grout from the floor tiles I just put in. Floor was level, but he said he prefers grout because some overweight clients managed to pop a caulk seam and if it’s available, grout is just a little more work to guarantee no call backs from anyone. It looked great and I’m sure it was strong. After seeing the distaste for plaster vs caulk, I’m curious what is the community opinion on grout vs caulk?
We use Harvey extra thick wax rings then bolt it down snug but not to much. Then use toilet shims for the low spots to stop it from rocking. Cut the shims and tighten it down. Then use Dap to seal the gap and hide the shims. Don't seal the whole gap all the way around and leave an inch of it open on the back, that way you can see the wax ring leaking before it causes a bunch of damage by leaking down through the floor.
Don't caulk all the way around the toilet. Leave the back open so that if you get a leak in the toilet, you will see it spilling onto the floor instead of soaking into the subfloor.
The only time I've seen someone use two wax rings was to avoid tearing out the ceiling of the room below to raise the pie up less than two inches because the floor got thicker over time with two layers of plywood under the linoleum.
@@chrisevans523 If the floor is built up higher than the original plumbing was laid for, you have to choose between cutting the floor open to change the plumbing, or add another wax ring to fill the height.
The point of the plaster was/is four-fold: ... To provide a stable base and shock absorber that you could tighten bolts against without risking cracking the tile (sitting down hard w/caulk, only, may otherwise cause this); .... To soak up water that may lea, so it didn't end up on ceiling downstairs, or creating rotting, moldy wood below; ... Also stopped sewer gas from a leaky wax ring, if damp air hit the plaster; ... And the plaster showed if you had a leak. Yellow (or brown) plaster coming out means you need a new ring and to re-set! Pssst ... Pro tip: Use a plaster drying delay agent if the plaster dries too fast for you. Who is training our youngsters nowadays?
Thankfully people who understand more modern methods. Get that old garbage out and don't act like you know better for doing something different before better methods came along.
@@daveyjoseph6058 Lmao Just look at the NY commie governor 80% of New Yorkers are miserable people just notice the NY Attorney General 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’ll pay you never to come visit NYC
Plaster is used mostly in residential maintenance this way you can spot leaks and most tenants don't care where is an high end residential settings you want to be caulking it
I worked in nyc for a master plumber and never had an issue. I guess each its own. I always set the plaster of Paris around the wax ring and towards the front of the toilet bowl push down and tighten on the nuts for the Johni-Bolts. Never had any rocking motion. I prefer the old school method in my opinion. Still nice work, keep doing you bro.
Yeah this is how I was taught to do it by the old timers here in brooklyn nyc ..haven't had any issues with it .. and I don't get yellow around the toilet because I don't leave the excess around it I clean it off and apply silicone around the bowl
BEST FOR THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE IT CLEANS UP EASY AND HAS A HEAVIER TEXTURE YOU CAN WORK LEAVING A NICE BEAD. THE CHEAP ALEX CAULKING IS LIGHT TEXTURE AND WIPES AWAY EASY. THE DROP IN PORCELAIN BATHROOM SINKS YEARS BACK CAME WITH A TUB PHENOSEAL.
I recently moved out of a really old duplex pad. REALLY old. The toilet rocked like riding a horse and the floor was far too gone to tighten it anymore. Now I enjoy a solid ride while taking care of business. The simple things we take for granted.
You are correct sir. It is the best way to set a toilet, I was taught the same. Problem is it's hard to find gauging plaster, that's the plaster used to finish real plaster walls, it's slacked with lime takes a while to dry also doesn't yellow but the only freaking kind of plastic you can find is plaster of Paris which totally sucks.. so I use the does silicone method now. Like your videos my man keep them coming .👍👍👍
Ive see an occasional toilet done with grout...im not a plumber but i prefer plastic shims, cut them flush, and clear ,siliconized acrylic caulk -- water clean up , so i can wipe it with a damp tile sponge like some people said. I find clear looks best and works with all tile, colors , etc. unless its crazy out of level and then i could see using grout
Hey man flush that Water Closet 4-5 times to make sure thw wax seal isnt leaking. Then get your caulk and finish her off good 👍. Keep up the good work man. Really enjoy ur videos and commentary 💯
Ok, I can finally add some real knowledge to the discussion. First again, do use plaster. I have heard of plumbers using grout to set the bowl or thin set or structolite, but that would make hard as fuck to remove if there ever needs servicing. The key to a nice clean job is to set the toilet on plaster THEN a matching grout AND then a VERY light bead of clear 100% kitchen/bathroom silicone to seal the cement grout. I hope this helps someone.
You're using plaster around the perimeter not for the seal. Even if he did the plaster method he's still using a wax ring. The plaster would be used instead of caulking.
If that's a solid tile floor , it should be sanded grout To match the tile floor. Just like this, but it matches and it hardens as a hard base for the toilet to sit on. And it matches.
You're supposed to flush before cutting the jhonny bolts. In case the seal is not on right before going any further. If it checks out you're good. Proceed.
Any bigger person (or formerly bigger person) can massively respect that you don't want the toilet to rock back and forth... Really sucks to have someone come over to the house and say "your toilet scared the shit out of me".
Silicone Wedges on an empty flange with bolts in. Get it level, lift drop wax ring while leaving wedges in location you placed them can use a pencil to mark the corners to be sure. Tighten up the nuts cut bolts cap them off an blam!!! Was taught the plaster method too.. but really nice tile and other high end flooring you do y want to scratching up trying to replace a toilet that the client didn’t like in the build… Different footprint as well… Even have to be careful with some caulks.
I use polyurethane caulk to fill in any gaps under the rim. It sets up hard enough to support the weight but still has a little flexibility. Then finish it off with DAP.
I put the wax ring on mount the toilet on quarter inch spacers then I use white grout mixed with adhesive once it’s dry. I removed the grout spacers fill them in let it dry and then I seal it with grout sealer then I drill 1/16 hole in the back so if it’s leaking it’ll come out and you’ll know so you can fix it. I’ve never had one leak on me though and never stains. Never leaked for me at least and self levels for crooked floors. Best of luck.
Tell your customers to stop pissing on the side of the toilet 😅 plaster is great for old out of level floors. If the floor is good, you don't need it. Unless you got some 300 lb whoppers frequenting that joint. Then I say, set it in plaster. So you don't have to tighten the bolts every 6 months.
Still use plaster of paris. Just around the wax ring pretty much. Not enough for it to squeeze out of the sides. I still use caulk/silicone for finish around the bowl
I watch this channel for entertainment purposes only, as I’m a retired plumber. When I started plumbing in 1972 in Los Angeles we were using Synkoloids spackling paste for caulking toilets. It wasn’t waterproof and turned yellow in time. Most plaster isn’t waterproof, unless it’s plumbers dynamite, that we used for top out testing closet rings before they came out with rubber test plugs. It’s a mixture of cement for strength and waterproofing and plaster for setting up within an hour. We had 200 plumbers in our shop in the 80’s, 90’s and we only used Dap tub and tile caulk for toilets. Sets fairly hard yet still somewhat resilient.
I only use plaster on really high-end new installs mainly for wall hungs and urinals and if it's residential floor mount I typically only use on tan/brown or other dark neutral tiles if it's a reset or replacement it gets the Caulk unless it's high-end and they're adamant about plaster if they already had it.
This is why before I re set I pencil mark the bowl and only use 2 pounds per bowl and I put the plaster all on the inside diameter of my pencil mark and 1” away from the edges to give it room for the spread when you push your bowl down so if you don’t get plaster coming out of it let it set and dry then go at it with your choice of silicone
our company has always used non-sanded tile grout. looks great for a long time, prevents rocking, fills gaps small or larger, looks more professional and lasts longer than caulking. stainless washers or even coins to shim toilets with uneven floors. i always hated when people say "i dont use anything because id rather see the leak". that just seems lazy, unprofessional and that you dont have confidence in your work.
I know a local plumber that uses mortar instead of caulk, i assume mortar will let water out to warn of a water leak as apposed to trapping the water with caulk
Invest in a profiling kit for the caulk instead of the finger. The removal tool in the kit is a game changer and the profiler makes it look great. Super easy too. If you dont have one.. cut a credit card at a 90. Doing this makes that final step look way better Broski. Mist the caulk with some water first as well before using the profiler. Your customers will notice how clean it looks or WONT notice which is just as good because its invisble. That little bit of investment in a cheap kit steps the game up.
Apparently according to homeowners on warranty the DAP caulking also turns yellow within a year. Sometimes it’s all they give me but now we try to go with the thicker acrylic silicone caulking. However, we got a year supply of BOSS acrylic silicone caulk that isn’t as water soluble as it’s suppose to be and smells like weird chemicals so I’ve steered away from it for a year or so until they run out of the bad batches (some tubes are still normal)
I also leave a purge hole behind the toilet when applying sealant on the bottom of the toilet , it helps identify a problem of the worn out wax ring when you see water coming out of that hole before it starts leaking tho the lower floor
Honest question, why don't you use the waxless ring (The rubber foam type)? It prevents leakage when the toilet inevitably starts getting loose, and isn't an absolute mess.
Caulk doesn’t look good either. It turns yellow quickly and even faster depending on the cleaning products you use. There’s no reason to seal it. Just makes more work and mess when it’s time to change the wax ring or replace the toilet
One time, I used too much plaster, and as it set and expanded a bit, it cracked a piece of the base, sending it out and across the floor. If you use it, mix it with cold water, and don't over-do it.
I use pre mixed grout to seal. Shits great for when you don’t want to shim it to death (screwed up flooring) and a $20 tub of it will do like 50 toilets.
Just FYI to all the plumbers- Those flexible supply pipes look bad and attract dirt. Bend a solid chrome plated supply line to add value to your install.
Plaster on toilets must be a NY thing. I just promoted my maintenance tech to maintenance director. Being a former maintenance director myself, we went over the community with a fine tooth comb. It all made sense til we got to the issue of toilet setting. In NY, toilets are set with plaster. I had no idea. I'm a Florida boy. Learn something new every day
My dad didn't use any caulk or grout to seal around the toilet and never had problem or leaking? Why would you want to use any, just incase you have to ever remove the toilet? Had to do it one time to snake the drain. He just replaced wax ring and reinstalled the toilet and was done.
I was taught by master masons, and a toilet maker, that if a porcelian toilet is not fit 100% to the floor, it could crack from the stress. YOU ARE ALMOST RIGHT. The masons say to bed the toilet, just along the rim, with SANDED FLOOR GROUT. You wipe off any extra, and let it set overnight like grout does. If you want to put a thin bead of silicone over that to seal that yellowing urine, etc, that's perfectly fine. Good finishing work. Plaster goes yellow from urine. We all know how that surrounds toilets. Sorry ladies.
In a commercial area in my area we tin the entire exposed copper ... not sure if you'd do it in this application ... but it supposedly helps stop the copper from corroding. .. I dunno what do you think ?
I'm from upstate ny and I new a plumber from the city that used plaster of Paris. I crapped my pants the first time seen that mess. I guess it's good in an apt building and you have to do everything to prevent leaks. Thank God we don't have to use that mess upstate.
If the tile guy is good, only a wax gasket is necessary for installing a water closet. Plaster and silicone is for hacks or guys. Make some rubber shims if you have a rocker.
Old school. Plaster a knack. Wipe clean all the way around creating a separation. Dry shit comes right up. Grout the other way to go. Was told caulk was always a no no as it stains and discolors as well.
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To everyone confused: Plaster is not instead of the wax ring! It’s instead of the caulk. You set the toilet without the wax, trace the footprint of the base, pull the toilet, put down the wax, mix and set plaster along the pencil line, set the toilet and wipe…
I never knew that was a thing...plaster on a toilet. Besides I'm only wiping after a morning shite. Lol friend.
Why would you ever bother with that instead of caulk?!
Eh, I'm confused. It should be plaster of paris which is used to help level the toilet. It's not supposed to act as caulk or the wax ring, but deal with shitty floor jobs. If you are in a state like NY where buildings are decades old, you are going to find uneven floors often. The plaster of paris is also super easy to cleanup as it basically dissolves even when rock hard to a wet rag.
Using plain plaster on the other hand will make a mess.
For a house we had in Florida, a plumber asked if I had any leftover grout from the floor tiles I just put in. Floor was level, but he said he prefers grout because some overweight clients managed to pop a caulk seam and if it’s available, grout is just a little more work to guarantee no call backs from anyone.
It looked great and I’m sure it was strong. After seeing the distaste for plaster vs caulk, I’m curious what is the community opinion on grout vs caulk?
@@MessyPointedBlob yes plaster of Paris. The only way it acts as caulk, is that it passes code for a sealed toilet
I’m in an entirely different trade, but I don’t know why I’m captivated with your channel!!! 😂
Same here, I do C.A.D.D. in the steel building industry. He just does great work and I like to learn. Knowledge is power
I'm an HVAC I love his videos, I'm starting to learn more plumbing because of this guy Real knowledgeable and Well skilled 💯
Heck yeah. This is free classes and I love his humor while explaining things. He is genius.@@jopelagreeno
I'm in HVAC I feel you love seeing other trades lol
That's the wrong wax ring for that application
We use Harvey extra thick wax rings then bolt it down snug but not to much. Then use toilet shims for the low spots to stop it from rocking. Cut the shims and tighten it down. Then use Dap to seal the gap and hide the shims. Don't seal the whole gap all the way around and leave an inch of it open on the back, that way you can see the wax ring leaking before it causes a bunch of damage by leaking down through the floor.
Harvey's a good wax ring for sure
Don't caulk all the way around the toilet. Leave the back open so that if you get a leak in the toilet, you will see it spilling onto the floor instead of soaking into the subfloor.
He did that!
Code actually says you’re suppose to caulk all the way around it. UPC at least does.
Not all @@hunterscott1976
I never liked doing that, all the water from the tub or shower seems to always make its way behind the toilet
Good excuse. You know it’s that you just can’t fit that caulk gun behind it is why you leave it open.
Bro, I'm an electrical engineer but I enjoy watching your videos more than my own profession videos hahaha 🤣🤣🤣
Because you don't do this work😂 it helps that he genuinely himself while making these videos
Plaster to set toilets? Never heard of this one before.
It's prolly them really old new York guys. Some of them, I'm sure learned their stuff from guys that did it that old school way
Love to hear this guy talk~!!!!!! Rock On Bro~!!
I started with plaster ..70 s .....but now 2 wax rings....no callbacks. You're the best browski.
The only time I've seen someone use two wax rings was to avoid tearing out the ceiling of the room below to raise the pie up less than two inches because the floor got thicker over time with two layers of plywood under the linoleum.
Why 2 wax rings?
@@chrisevans523 If the floor is built up higher than the original plumbing was laid for, you have to choose between cutting the floor open to change the plumbing, or add another wax ring to fill the height.
Sometimes I use the floor grout it makes for a great finished look
Every plumber in America hates you lol
Coming from a repair plumber, stop doin this pls 😭
😂😂 Yes from the service point of view that is a little brutal(brittle)to get out
Make look good but it doesn’t hold the toilet like caulking.
@@JohnWear-s3f yes I agree . But I've had good luck with it and looks good lol
The point of the plaster was/is four-fold:
... To provide a stable base and shock absorber that you could tighten bolts against without risking cracking the tile (sitting down hard w/caulk, only, may otherwise cause this);
.... To soak up water that may lea, so it didn't end up on ceiling downstairs, or creating rotting, moldy wood below;
... Also stopped sewer gas from a leaky wax ring, if damp air hit the plaster;
... And the plaster showed if you had a leak. Yellow (or brown) plaster coming out means you need a new ring and to re-set!
Pssst ... Pro tip: Use a plaster drying delay agent if the plaster dries too fast for you.
Who is training our youngsters nowadays?
Thankfully people who understand more modern methods. Get that old garbage out and don't act like you know better for doing something different before better methods came along.
I wish I lived in NYC just so we could hang out drinking a cold one, while your crew upgraded all my plumbing. You sir are a legend, keep it up!
You must’ve never been to nyc if you think the people there would _want_ to hang out with you
@@daveyjoseph6058
Lmao
Just look at the NY commie governor 80% of New Yorkers are miserable people just notice the NY Attorney General 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’ll pay you never to come visit NYC
@@daveyjoseph6058he’s very New Yorker already, he knows they won’t have a choice but to hang out while they do their service 😂
I always use compression stops on trim-outs
I like tuhrdoes 🐢
Plaster is used mostly in residential maintenance this way you can spot leaks and most tenants don't care where is an high end residential settings you want to be caulking it
I worked in nyc for a master plumber and never had an issue. I guess each its own. I always set the plaster of Paris around the wax ring and towards the front of the toilet bowl push down and tighten on the nuts for the Johni-Bolts. Never had any rocking motion. I prefer the old school method in my opinion. Still nice work, keep doing you bro.
Yeah this is how I was taught to do it by the old timers here in brooklyn nyc ..haven't had any issues with it .. and I don't get yellow around the toilet because I don't leave the excess around it I clean it off and apply silicone around the bowl
Lmfao 💀, " and probably a really good sculpture too." Wow that was gold. 😂
"sculptor" dude
White latex adhesive caulk "phenoseal". Been using it for ever
BEST FOR THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE IT CLEANS UP EASY AND HAS A HEAVIER TEXTURE YOU CAN WORK LEAVING A NICE BEAD. THE CHEAP ALEX CAULKING IS LIGHT TEXTURE AND WIPES AWAY EASY. THE DROP IN PORCELAIN BATHROOM SINKS YEARS BACK CAME WITH A TUB PHENOSEAL.
I recently moved out of a really old duplex pad. REALLY old. The toilet rocked like riding a horse and the floor was far too gone to tighten it anymore. Now I enjoy a solid ride while taking care of business. The simple things we take for granted.
Glad you’re back broski
You are correct sir. It is the best way to set a toilet, I was taught the same. Problem is it's hard to find gauging plaster, that's the plaster used to finish real plaster walls, it's slacked with lime takes a while to dry also doesn't yellow but the only freaking kind of plastic you can find is plaster of Paris which totally sucks.. so I use the does silicone method now. Like your videos my man keep them coming .👍👍👍
Ive see an occasional toilet done with grout...im not a plumber but i prefer plastic shims, cut them flush, and clear ,siliconized acrylic caulk -- water clean up , so i can wipe it with a damp tile sponge like some people said. I find clear looks best and works with all tile, colors , etc. unless its crazy out of level and then i could see using grout
Hey man flush that Water Closet 4-5 times to make sure thw wax seal isnt leaking. Then get your caulk and finish her off good 👍. Keep up the good work man. Really enjoy ur videos and commentary 💯
Ok, I can finally add some real knowledge to the discussion. First again, do use plaster. I have heard of plumbers using grout to set the bowl or thin set or structolite, but that would make hard as fuck to remove if there ever needs servicing. The key to a nice clean job is to set the toilet on plaster THEN a matching grout AND then a VERY light bead of clear 100% kitchen/bathroom silicone to seal the cement grout. I hope this helps someone.
Wax seal is fast and works.
You're using plaster around the perimeter not for the seal. Even if he did the plaster method he's still using a wax ring. The plaster would be used instead of caulking.
If that's a solid tile floor , it should be sanded grout To match the tile floor. Just like this, but it matches and it hardens as a hard base for the toilet to sit on. And it matches.
You're supposed to flush before cutting the jhonny bolts. In case the seal is not on right before going any further. If it checks out you're good. Proceed.
Any bigger person (or formerly bigger person) can massively respect that you don't want the toilet to rock back and forth... Really sucks to have someone come over to the house and say "your toilet scared the shit out of me".
Because houses are old in NYC and plaster was the way to get it right but remodel or new construction use caulk all day
Silicone Wedges on an empty flange with bolts in. Get it level, lift drop wax ring while leaving wedges in location you placed them can use a pencil to mark the corners to be sure. Tighten up the nuts cut bolts cap them off an blam!!!
Was taught the plaster method too.. but really nice tile and other high end flooring you do y want to scratching up trying to replace a toilet that the client didn’t like in the build…
Different footprint as well…
Even have to be careful with some caulks.
BTW, thanks for putting up this channel and the great workmanship you do. There is hope for the future of the trade thru guys like you.
Never even heard of the plaster here in Jersey. Sometimes use the tile grout if any is left.
Use hydraulic cement tighten the bolts down snug and then pack it under the toilet in a manner that levels the toilet
Would love to see a quick video for tips on caulking. It seems so easy but each time I've tried it it looks terrible. I'm sure I'm missing something.
I can listen to this broski all day
Love your channel, great job of explaining plumbing job….much appreciated!
I use polyurethane caulk to fill in any gaps under the rim. It sets up hard enough to support the weight but still has a little flexibility. Then finish it off with DAP.
Man, the Tide bleach pin does wonder on that yellow tint. Same with caulking and tile!
I put the wax ring on mount the toilet on quarter inch spacers then I use white grout mixed with adhesive once it’s dry. I removed the grout spacers fill them in let it dry and then I seal it with grout sealer then I drill 1/16 hole in the back so if it’s leaking it’ll come out and you’ll know so you can fix it. I’ve never had one leak on me though and never stains. Never leaked for me at least and self levels for crooked floors. Best of luck.
Tell your customers to stop pissing on the side of the toilet 😅 plaster is great for old out of level floors. If the floor is good, you don't need it. Unless you got some 300 lb whoppers frequenting that joint. Then I say, set it in plaster. So you don't have to tighten the bolts every 6 months.
Still use plaster of paris. Just around the wax ring pretty much. Not enough for it to squeeze out of the sides. I still use caulk/silicone for finish around the bowl
I watch this channel for entertainment purposes only, as I’m a retired plumber. When I started plumbing in 1972 in Los Angeles we were using Synkoloids spackling paste for caulking toilets. It wasn’t waterproof and turned yellow in time. Most plaster isn’t waterproof, unless it’s plumbers dynamite, that we used for top out testing closet rings before they came out with rubber test plugs. It’s a mixture of cement for strength and waterproofing and plaster for setting up within an hour. We had 200 plumbers in our shop in the 80’s, 90’s and we only used Dap tub and tile caulk for toilets. Sets fairly hard yet still somewhat resilient.
You're a great plumber. I was a new construction plumber from Apr05 to Nov08 (economy tanked). So much harder in the city. I tip my hat bro.
I only use plaster on really high-end new installs mainly for wall hungs and urinals and if it's residential floor mount I typically only use on tan/brown or other dark neutral tiles if it's a reset or replacement it gets the Caulk unless it's high-end and they're adamant about plaster if they already had it.
I Like your videos my man. I’m a plumber too. I like to use a wet/ moist sponge instead of my fingers lol. Nice toilet install my man
This is why before I re set I pencil mark the bowl and only use 2 pounds per bowl and I put the plaster all on the inside diameter of my pencil mark and 1” away from the edges to give it room for the spread when you push your bowl down so if you don’t get plaster coming out of it let it set and dry then go at it with your choice of silicone
The problem with plaster is that it starts cracking and chipping off when it is cleaned . Not a plaster fan . This guy knows his stuff 😊
You’re a much better Plumber than I,
But that caulking job needs to look better 👀 especially on that nice finish fam
Always leave the back open on sealant.
Great job Bro
Sometimes the ways of that old timers work are not the best, but they're too stubborn to try and adapt or validate new methods.
our company has always used non-sanded tile grout. looks great for a long time, prevents rocking, fills gaps small or larger, looks more professional and lasts longer than caulking. stainless washers or even coins to shim toilets with uneven floors.
i always hated when people say "i dont use anything because id rather see the leak". that just seems lazy, unprofessional and that you dont have confidence in your work.
Mix joint compound to plaster for a slower set time.
Anyone using a grinder be careful with sparks hitting the porcelain. They embed and leave black marks.
If you use an automotive sponge to clean up the caulking ,it pushes it under the toilet and looks slick
The plaster error,well said😂😂😂
Use a grout sponge on that caulk bro. Keep up the good work.
I never used plaster but I do use two wax rings per water closet, horned and regular.
I know a local plumber that uses mortar instead of caulk, i assume mortar will let water out to warn of a water leak as apposed to trapping the water with caulk
This guy is funny as hell 😂
I also was taught to use plaster of Paris. Which, you correctly say, sets in about 60 seconds. But if you do it right, will actually prevent rocking.
I like the plaster method great I think it’s great
Invest in a profiling kit for the caulk instead of the finger. The removal tool in the kit is a game changer and the profiler makes it look great. Super easy too. If you dont have one.. cut a credit card at a 90. Doing this makes that final step look way better Broski. Mist the caulk with some water first as well before using the profiler. Your customers will notice how clean it looks or WONT notice which is just as good because its invisble. That little bit of investment in a cheap kit steps the game up.
Is the soldered angle valve a requirement in your area, or is it just your preference?
Apparently according to homeowners on warranty the DAP caulking also turns yellow within a year. Sometimes it’s all they give me but now we try to go with the thicker acrylic silicone caulking. However, we got a year supply of BOSS acrylic silicone caulk that isn’t as water soluble as it’s suppose to be and smells like weird chemicals so I’ve steered away from it for a year or so until they run out of the bad batches (some tubes are still normal)
I was taught that you never caulk around the base of a toilet. If the toilet leaks you won’t know it until lots of damage has been done.
I also leave a purge hole behind the toilet when applying sealant on the bottom of the toilet , it helps identify a problem of the worn out wax ring when you see water coming out of that hole before it starts leaking tho the lower floor
I watched about 15 video clips, I have to say " you have a gift" - good job.
Honest question, why don't you use the waxless ring (The rubber foam type)? It prevents leakage when the toilet inevitably starts getting loose, and isn't an absolute mess.
Your caulk is clean! Hate when I see people who don’t know how to use their caulk.
Caulk doesn’t look good either. It turns yellow quickly and even faster depending on the cleaning products you use.
There’s no reason to seal it. Just makes more work and mess when it’s time to change the wax ring or replace the toilet
One time, I used too much plaster, and as it set and expanded a bit, it cracked a piece of the base, sending it out and across the floor. If you use it, mix it with cold water, and don't over-do it.
Heard of using grout same color as used on the tile floor but never plaster to seal the outside of the base of a toilet. Learn new things everyday.
Plaster underneath the toilet not on the outside.when you set a shower pan or tub...use moetar.
I use pre mixed grout to seal. Shits great for when you don’t want to shim it to death (screwed up flooring) and a $20 tub of it will do like 50 toilets.
Man, I love you.
FACTS ONLY TIME PLASTER HELPS IS IF THE FLOOR IS VERY UNLEVEL
Just FYI to all the plumbers- Those flexible supply pipes look bad and attract dirt. Bend a solid chrome plated supply line to add value to your install.
Plaster on toilets must be a NY thing. I just promoted my maintenance tech to maintenance director. Being a former maintenance director myself, we went over the community with a fine tooth comb. It all made sense til we got to the issue of toilet setting. In NY, toilets are set with plaster. I had no idea. I'm a Florida boy. Learn something new every day
At least the tile guy wasn’t on the gear this time 😂😂😂😂
The "plaster era" was a "plaster error."
Even clock turned yellow from people missing the bowl
Impressive
You installed a wax ring
Your on top of the world brosket
My dad didn't use any caulk or grout to seal around the toilet and never had problem or leaking? Why would you want to use any, just incase you have to ever remove the toilet? Had to do it one time to snake the drain. He just replaced wax ring and reinstalled the toilet and was done.
In UK we have never used plaster, a long while ago we would bed the pan on cement but today silicon caulk all the way dude!! 😊👍🏻
I was taught by master masons, and a toilet maker, that if a porcelian toilet is not fit 100% to the floor, it could crack from the stress. YOU ARE ALMOST RIGHT. The masons say to bed the toilet, just along the rim, with SANDED FLOOR GROUT. You wipe off any extra, and let it set overnight like grout does. If you want to put a thin bead of silicone over that to seal that yellowing urine, etc, that's perfectly fine. Good finishing work.
Plaster goes yellow from urine. We all know how that surrounds toilets. Sorry ladies.
Masons aren’t plumbers. Toilets are stronger than you think.
Can you plaster and then cover the edge with silicone?
Semi wet sponge 🧽 for caulking bromeo KLEEN finish no mess no fingers 🤞🏼 friendly advice
Do you leave a small Gap at the back of the caulking so that you can be warned of a leak?
In a commercial area in my area we tin the entire exposed copper ... not sure if you'd do it in this application ... but it supposedly helps stop the copper from corroding. .. I dunno what do you think ?
Chief, show a full skirt toilet install. 2 points for you for soldering the valve.
Use a sponge to work your caulk joints.
That’s my favorite part of the job, my shit be clean but I have al line way to go broski 💯
I'm from upstate ny and I new a plumber from the city that used plaster of Paris. I crapped my pants the first time seen that mess. I guess it's good in an apt building and you have to do everything to prevent leaks. Thank God we don't have to use that mess upstate.
Silicon or caulk around the toilet?
On top of a tile floor, the tile should be set into grout. Specifically, sanded grout.
Soldering stops is still a true plumbing tradition
If the tile guy is good, only a wax gasket is necessary for installing a water closet. Plaster and silicone is for hacks or guys. Make some rubber shims if you have a rocker.
Just use a regular wax ring without a horn...straight discharge to waste arm less problems
Mr. Broski, use clear, it’s easier to keep clean 😊
Never was taught that method. Really glad I wasn't now. Just shims and some caulk
Never ever plastered a toilet, never even siliconed one, not my job, I put them on the floor
But love your videos, your top shelf
You should try the better than wax silicone toilet rings. They are reusable, install super easy, and I've never had 9ne fail
Just use grout & then go over it with ultimate clear silicone u get the solidness of the grout n the dexterity of the silicone
Old school. Plaster a knack. Wipe clean all the way around creating a separation. Dry shit comes right up. Grout the other way to go.
Was told caulk was always a no no as it stains and discolors as well.