It's funny watching PC reviews (from everyone) and getting what ideas reviewers have about the work you can do on PCs: it's all office work (Word, Google Docs, Excel exc.) or video/photo editing. No one even mentions engineering programs, calculus programs, or even Software Development works. I understand you review products one the base of your experience, but in this way you give the idea that the purpose of laptops is to write essays or to edit photos/videos. Great review btw
I always think the same thing. I just want to know if it can open and run Solidworks, CATIA, and some other stuff and run them smoothly. I don't need them to run and render my final projects, but I use my laptop to look at designs with customer or to make quick changes on the road. I do all my heavy modeling at my desktops.
Seriously man... I at least give MKBHD credit for making a video specifically about why people always go back to Apple and that he's not any different. And at least The Verge are unapologetically Apple shills and make it painfully obvious.
I love my Mac more, but damn Microsoft made the greatest decision going the Apple route and making their own hardware. Apple is a testament of software and hardware harmony and Microsoft is definitely delivering on that aspect more
I feel like his reviews are just written for him and he reads it out, without any experience on the device whatsoever, quoting the stuff the manufacturer advertised.
Its impossible to find a Surface review that doesn't mention Mac? Never owned a Mac, the comparison is useless, compare it to previous Surfaces and the XPS ffs.
DoubleAIV this is a pretty standalone review that isn’t really compared much to Mac. But the reason why it may seem that it’s being compared to Mac is because that’s Microsoft’s direct competition with this laptop. So the specs and features put into this directly compete with Mac. The unibody design, the keyboard and trackpad, the overall design is intended to beat Macs implementation of these features. So it only makes sense if you compare against your competition and even though you may not use Mac (I mean no disrespect here) that’s the intention Microsoft is going for. Microsoft wants this to be matched against the Mac.
I just picked one of these up over the holidays and I am enjoying it. I was in the same boat whether or not to game on a laptop, but once I look at the pro's and con's of a gaming laptop, like a massive power adapter that you would have to carry with a gaming laptop. I was satisfied with my choice. I also thought of the streaming gaming services that are coming out in regards to gaming on a laptop. Not having thunderbolt 3 is not a deal breaker. Watching videos with the bars is not that bad we do it all the time with other devices. I usually don't watch you tube videos in full screen mode. I like your review. I purchased the 13" with the i5 8gb ram and 256ssd.
I'm loving theese neew cinematic reviews and videos in general.. i feel like this could be on a saturday morning tech show on tv or netflix ( thinking emoji ) .. great job Jon.. I raelly love your vids and your opinions on laptops helped me buying one myself.. Love from Perú
You should mention that theres also a ryzen 7 version with vega11 graphics. When you compare it to the intel chips you miss to mention what you've compared in the benchmarks. Business version is openly available for the general public. Anyone can order it. And you can open it very easily with one hand imo.
I had a MacBook Pro for 5 years - no complaints whatsoever. Switched to Windows and I bought the dandy new Surface Book 2 and used it for 2 years. I now have a dead battery that doesn't charge. The screen would never detach smoothly. The base of the laptop is swollen now.. not sure if the heat got it or the dead battery. Unlike the Mac, the Surface book that I bought in China has Chinese hardcoded into it - can never completely get rid of it. OH, we see that you have changed your language to English, but maybe you still need to see the start up messages in Chinese? Since I could never cleanly or easily detach the screen, never used the touch screen function. With the key board attached its just counter intuitive... and oh yes, browser adware and malware and the Gandcrab ransomware I am going back to the Mac now...
Thank you for presenting this review from a productivity viewpoint. Anybody doing vmware/ Autocad knows not to buy this, I dont need the reviewer to compare this to some heavy power laden beast. I really prefer the aspect ration of the Surface laptops. After using one it is hard to go back to the old dvd watching aspect ratio of most laptops.
Thing is, it lacks TB3 which is a huge disadvantage in terms of its versatility and longevity - can’t use TB3 docks, eGPUs, portable SSDs etc. And the MacBook Pro is priced nearly identical spec for spec.
It’s such a strange time in the Mac vs Windows world. I find the benefits of my MacBook dwindling. I’ve always had a built windows desktop for gaming and editing but I’ve used a MacBook and iPhone even since I could afford to. But I just ordered a pixel 4 and I’m excited about the Surface Duo. I honestly don’t know what my next laptop will be and I’m kind of glad I’m not in the market for one. Apple is disappointing me lately and I really hope they do something wow worthy soon, Cause AirPods pro and a 16 inch MacBook aren’t really impressive. Yeah the Mac Pro is a great break from the non upgradable legacy but for what it costs does it matter? I’m excited about what Microsoft and google are doing but I’m worried about what apple is doing. That’s a sentence I never thought I would type and one I really wish I didn’t have to. Let’s hope 2020 has a lot to offer from everyone
Brawndo I tend to be the opposite. The majority of work I do is fixing other people’s computers and so I’m usually using windows for software issues and reinstalls. Thinking about it now, almost every PC I’ve fixed as been some kind of software problem and every Mac I’ve fixed as been hardware. Also video editing, I prefer premier pro so I usually run it on my desktop.
Hunter X Hunter no it’s definitely quite terrible. Its design language is an incoherent jumble of Aero, Metro, and Fluent. It often comes loaded with bloatware and ads baked into the OS. Its data practices are horrendous miscarriages of privacy. It’s missing basic features like document previewing and a decent terminal. It’s file system is a god damn nightmare for developers. It can’t even use accessories out of the box, and forces users to deal with drivers for everything. For some fields, it’s missing critical apps many require to do work (such as Final Cut Pro and Homebrew). It also shoehorns touch into the experience despite it being detrimental in a number of ways thanks to how bad touch translates into desktop software. The only thing it has going for it is gaming, which this laptop definitely cannot handle for much beyond casual, mobile-style gaming.
@@gfyGoogle I agree with everything you just said. It’s why I switched to Mac and why I will n3ver use a windows computer as my primary device until Microsoft actually make a good stable OS (which given their unfortunate habit of bringing over outdated code, functionality and looks from the last major version, seems unlikely to be Windows).
Cam well if you buy anything on the surface line like this laptop, the windows that it comes with is clean, purely stock, with no crazy drivers or whatever. Just 100% clean no bloatware and no hiccups. Everything works flawlessly, without bugs, and you almost never (if ever) get a crash or any software problems on a surface device. Because just like Apple, surface devices are designed by microsoft, such as their software. So its a perfect combination of clean, optimized and stable windows with stable and perfect hardware. The mix of design languages you are talking about is getting fixed day by day, and the latest Windows 10 is more coherent than never. It is starting to actually look beautiful, smooth and well done. The next updates will probably make it even better, microsoft is trying really hard to solve every problem possible. The things about privacy, i get why they do them, but the first time you turn on your computer, you get asked and informed about those settings and you can turn them all of, they don’t come ON by default either, you have to literally click allow or deny. The things about drivers you said is getting more automatic by the day. I dont even remember the last time i had to deal with drivers... you plug something in, its ready to use because microsoft is changing to a different way if handling drivers (DCH Drivers). And all manufacturers are starting to enter this new driver scheme. They are completely automatic to install and they dont mess with other system files, its clean and safe with no input required from the user. Also windows now has linux subsystem so you can literally use a linux terminal with a complete ubuntu or debian or whatever install behind it, to develop on it. Yes windows is a nightmare, or was, but is growing and getting perfected each day, mac users should really just stop hating on it...
Imma need that wallpaper link edit: i own a surface laptop gen 1 and it's my daily driver, and 50% volume sounds ridiculous to me, because for me 10-20 is plenty loud for most things
I think your point about this being not a gaming notebook or a video editing power house are valid. But I was wondering, did you run rocket league at the native resolution of that screen? If so just turning down the resolution a touch would probably lend that to be much more usable. And for the video editing, I think throwing a 4k timeline at it seems a little unfair, 1080p would probably be a more likely use case I'd imagine. Great review, just seemed a little strange in places.
Vasilios Sotiropoulos I had a 2 then got a 3. For some reason the screen has bad backlight bleed even with colors on the screen. Was disappointed cause I liked my 2
So far, best windows laptop i've used is the Lenovo p52s. Built like a tank, solid performance, EXCELLENT dev machine, wonderful keyboard. Trackpad is aight, but i just use a mouse
The 13" model that has intel processors should have thunderbolt. I have the original surface laptop and the lack of thunderbolt is the only thing that kept me from upgrading to this new one. Fingers crossed for the laptop 4 to finally have it because I never want to use anything other than a surface product again.
Great video Jon, I will give it to the folks in Redmond, they made a great looking laptop. Out of the different models that they make, this is the design that to me is more practical. If I wanted a Mac equivalent with Windows, I would look no further than this laptop. I will say the lack of indent to open the laptop is a bit cumbersome but for what you get, it is a minor annoyance. Keep up the great content!
nice vid, and yes its a shame there is no external graphics card box connection. no desktop needed anymore if that will be sort of the future. thats the only thing that can be modular for all consumers. just plug and play and you will have a workstation if you want for gaming or editing.
Honestly the one thing that really is a show stopper for me is that there's not an sd card slot. I own a dell xps 15 from a few years back and it still preforms great... but if i were to upgrade now i'd still take that just because of the sd card slot
It’s unclear what you’re wanting Apple to beat from this video? Besides the keyboard, touchscreen and aspect ratio, I’m not sure what the Mac is missing that this has or does better.
The lack of Thunderbolt 3 at this point is absolutely ridiculous. I'm a OG surface book owner and honestly, while the magnetic charge/dock connector is nice, for the love of God you're not Apple 10 years ago the proprietary crap doesn't do anything but cost you sales. I'd go with any of Razer or Lenovo's equipment over this just for this reason and I don't feel like I'm alone on this. When you're paying this much for a laptop plus the equipment required to dock it I'd be happier if the dock was interchangable.
It's not the Surface Book. It's a laptop for your average consumer who wants an above average laptop that is reliable and feels premium. Different laptops for different markets. If it's not for you then buy something else.
AMD Ryzen doesn’t support Thunderbold 3 as of right now, 7-8 hours battery is pretty average for an 8th gen Intel laptop. It’s meant for *productivity*. Think HP Envy x360 15z, or that Ryzen based Lenovo I forgot about.
2010: Apple is crazy with that prices for laptop... Windows laptops are way better and cheaper. 2019: You can't play games on this 1500€ windows laptop.. but it's premium quality. Beat this, apple.
Jon to be fair, you show your videos that you shoot in , I'm guessing, 2:1. Even my 16:9 laptop has black bars on top and bottom. Nice video overall though
I don't understand what this is for? That's a metric ton of money for something that a laptop half the price. Honestly it's seems like your just paying extra for the looks.
I hope it does have a better „paint job“ than my Surface Pro 6. The black of my tablet is literally peeling of on all the edges (and I am ultra careful with the thing). Even though I like the Surface line, this is really disappointing.
Seems like this is competition for the MacBook Air, great school or work laptop, not really competing with the 15” MBP which can pretty much handle gaming and video editing (at least those are two uses I have for mine but I have the upgraded GPU.) It seems like a nice laptop though and it seems like Microsoft are doing good stuff with their hardware.
Thunderbolt 3 is an Intel proprietary technology. You won't get it on an AMD based machine, no matter what. Until USB 4 comes, which is like the open standard of thunderbolt 3, this is it.
what are you on about? my 13.5 inch is easy to open with one finger. the top part is slightly protruded over the bottom. so can lift up anywhere on that edge.
Why people love Mac devices? Beautiful Device and beatiful MacOS UI. Surface ==Beautiful Devices with an Ugly, Inconsistent OS UI. People love beautiful and handsome faces and it is the same with Devices and OS.
Why would the Intel versions be faster? Talking about mobile CPUs now. AMD vs Intel is neck and neck CPU performance wise with AMD in general having a bit more GPU power.
Looks like a very clean laptop. I would love to upgrade to that from my hammydown toshiba laptop. But I am however building my gaming pc this year. Maybe one day I will be able to get a new laptop. I love mac os but they are just too overpriced.
I've been looking for a new laptop that could handle Adobe Illustrator and Adobe Photoshop and I wanted to wait for new macbook but it doesn't look like it's coming out anytime soon, plus i'm really not into the butterfly keys of the macbook. I was wondering if the surface laptop 3 can handle Adobe software?
The Surface Laptop looks absolutely stellar, Microsoft nailed it.
Richard Tech look like a mac..
"This time might be differ..."
No, no it won't.
It's funny watching PC reviews (from everyone) and getting what ideas reviewers have about the work you can do on PCs: it's all office work (Word, Google Docs, Excel exc.) or video/photo editing. No one even mentions engineering programs, calculus programs, or even Software Development works. I understand you review products one the base of your experience, but in this way you give the idea that the purpose of laptops is to write essays or to edit photos/videos. Great review btw
I always think the same thing. I just want to know if it can open and run Solidworks, CATIA, and some other stuff and run them smoothly. I don't need them to run and render my final projects, but I use my laptop to look at designs with customer or to make quick changes on the road. I do all my heavy modeling at my desktops.
I agree! I’m trying to look for a computer that can handle python since I’m getting into geophysics, and I’m really considering getting this one
@@AlexisBrianna did you get it? If yes is it good for python?
2:25 I say this to my girlfriend all the time!!
Hahahahahaha
HEYO!
Nice
oh man!! hahahaha
didn't know your girlfriend was a touch screen laptop
Lol this time MIGHT be different... 16 inch MacBook comes out and new Mac Book Pro video comes out haha
Carson Suite bruh 😂😂😂
Seriously man... I at least give MKBHD credit for making a video specifically about why people always go back to Apple and that he's not any different. And at least The Verge are unapologetically Apple shills and make it painfully obvious.
Alex G. Facts
@Jack Pavia lol called it! Still love Jon though haha
I love my Mac more, but damn Microsoft made the greatest decision going the Apple route and making their own hardware. Apple is a testament of software and hardware harmony and Microsoft is definitely delivering on that aspect more
The good thing about Jon's reviews is that he test it based on its intended use cases.
Yh unlike others who are treating it like some Surface Book replacement
I feel like his reviews are just written for him and he reads it out, without any experience on the device whatsoever, quoting the stuff the manufacturer advertised.
Have you seen his Surface Go review? It was garbage cause it couldn’t play games.
Its impossible to find a Surface review that doesn't mention Mac? Never owned a Mac, the comparison is useless, compare it to previous Surfaces and the XPS ffs.
DoubleAIV Then you should own one. Then maybe you’ll understand better.
Right, there's a couple of anticipated laptops ppl are waiting to hear about that were just released.
I feel like that's a pretty easy comparison. XPS is the Windows based leader right now really. Surfaces are still way too tablet focused.
DoubleAIV this is a pretty standalone review that isn’t really compared much to Mac. But the reason why it may seem that it’s being compared to Mac is because that’s Microsoft’s direct competition with this laptop. So the specs and features put into this directly compete with Mac. The unibody design, the keyboard and trackpad, the overall design is intended to beat Macs implementation of these features. So it only makes sense if you compare against your competition and even though you may not use Mac (I mean no disrespect here) that’s the intention Microsoft is going for. Microsoft wants this to be matched against the Mac.
DoubleAIV I don’t think he directly compares this with a Mac even once
I just picked one of these up over the holidays and I am enjoying it. I was in the same boat whether or not to game on a laptop, but once I look at the pro's and con's of a gaming laptop, like a massive power adapter that you would have to carry with a gaming laptop. I was satisfied with my choice. I also thought of the streaming gaming services that are coming out in regards to gaming on a laptop. Not having thunderbolt 3 is not a deal breaker. Watching videos with the bars is not that bad we do it all the time with other devices. I usually don't watch you tube videos in full screen mode. I like your review. I purchased the 13" with the i5 8gb ram and 256ssd.
Jon bringing his Jordan 1 collection in, First the shadows and now the Breds!
😂😂😂
I’m a Mac guy, but damn that looks good.
Rachel TransGirl i get a 100% attraction for macs and a 85% for the surface laptop. Everything else is 70 or lower.
Battery life is way bad on surface book 2 , expexted 10 hours while they cant last more than 6
If Mac has smaller bezels it would look good too
@@WaffleFlakes MacBooks have smaller bezel than the Surface Laptop
Glad to see an Apple user with an unbiased opinion. :)
One of the best reviews out here. Clean precise and straight to the point. Cheers buddy
2 hours later: “why I switched to the Macbook Air”...
@@thegoodguy44 😂😂 always trying to be offended aren't you...
@@thegoodguy44 How about a joke once in a day? :)
hahaha so true
because the little battery runs out on Surface Laptop
Just found your channel. I’m sure you already know but that was excellently scripted and delivered
I'm loving theese neew cinematic reviews and videos in general.. i feel like this could be on a saturday morning tech show on tv or netflix ( thinking emoji ) .. great job Jon.. I raelly love your vids and your opinions on laptops helped me buying one myself.. Love from Perú
You should mention that theres also a ryzen 7 version with vega11 graphics. When you compare it to the intel chips you miss to mention what you've compared in the benchmarks. Business version is openly available for the general public. Anyone can order it. And you can open it very easily with one hand imo.
I honestly hope they don't ever lose the Connect Port. I like that I have a power spot that doesn't take away from my USB connections and is magnetic.
I had a MacBook Pro for 5 years - no complaints whatsoever. Switched to Windows and I bought the dandy new Surface Book 2 and used it for 2 years. I now have a dead battery that doesn't charge. The screen would never detach smoothly. The base of the laptop is swollen now.. not sure if the heat got it or the dead battery. Unlike the Mac, the Surface book that I bought in China has Chinese hardcoded into it - can never completely get rid of it. OH, we see that you have changed your language to English, but maybe you still need to see the start up messages in Chinese? Since I could never cleanly or easily detach the screen, never used the touch screen function. With the key board attached its just counter intuitive... and oh yes, browser adware and malware and the Gandcrab ransomware
I am going back to the Mac now...
I am a Mac guy too. FCPX kept me coming to the Mac. But I happily switched to windows. Only if Apple could do something really good.
Thank you for presenting this review from a productivity viewpoint. Anybody doing vmware/ Autocad knows not to buy this, I dont need the reviewer to compare this to some heavy power laden beast. I really prefer the aspect ration of the Surface laptops. After using one it is hard to go back to the old dvd watching aspect ratio of most laptops.
Thing is, it lacks TB3 which is a huge disadvantage in terms of its versatility and longevity - can’t use TB3 docks, eGPUs, portable SSDs etc. And the MacBook Pro is priced nearly identical spec for spec.
It’s such a strange time in the Mac vs Windows world. I find the benefits of my MacBook dwindling. I’ve always had a built windows desktop for gaming and editing but I’ve used a MacBook and iPhone even since I could afford to. But I just ordered a pixel 4 and I’m excited about the Surface Duo. I honestly don’t know what my next laptop will be and I’m kind of glad I’m not in the market for one. Apple is disappointing me lately and I really hope they do something wow worthy soon, Cause AirPods pro and a 16 inch MacBook aren’t really impressive. Yeah the Mac Pro is a great break from the non upgradable legacy but for what it costs does it matter?
I’m excited about what Microsoft and google are doing but I’m worried about what apple is doing. That’s a sentence I never thought I would type and one I really wish I didn’t have to. Let’s hope 2020 has a lot to offer from everyone
Do you work with your computer? For me productivity = Apple the rest I"m PC all the way.
Brawndo I tend to be the opposite. The majority of work I do is fixing other people’s computers and so I’m usually using windows for software issues and reinstalls. Thinking about it now, almost every PC I’ve fixed as been some kind of software problem and every Mac I’ve fixed as been hardware. Also video editing, I prefer premier pro so I usually run it on my desktop.
@@Magic_monkey_man Makes sense!
Jon you just became my favorite channel after this video KEEP IT UP 💯
I feel like if Microsoft can keep up their performance with products like this they can really compete with Apple.
MaiKai Makena they need to fix windows first.
Cam windows not all that bad, people just hate on Microsoft.
Hunter X Hunter no it’s definitely quite terrible. Its design language is an incoherent jumble of Aero, Metro, and Fluent. It often comes loaded with bloatware and ads baked into the OS. Its data practices are horrendous miscarriages of privacy. It’s missing basic features like document previewing and a decent terminal. It’s file system is a god damn nightmare for developers. It can’t even use accessories out of the box, and forces users to deal with drivers for everything. For some fields, it’s missing critical apps many require to do work (such as Final Cut Pro and Homebrew). It also shoehorns touch into the experience despite it being detrimental in a number of ways thanks to how bad touch translates into desktop software.
The only thing it has going for it is gaming, which this laptop definitely cannot handle for much beyond casual, mobile-style gaming.
@@gfyGoogle I agree with everything you just said. It’s why I switched to Mac and why I will n3ver use a windows computer as my primary device until Microsoft actually make a good stable OS (which given their unfortunate habit of bringing over outdated code, functionality and looks from the last major version, seems unlikely to be Windows).
Cam well if you buy anything on the surface line like this laptop, the windows that it comes with is clean, purely stock, with no crazy drivers or whatever. Just 100% clean no bloatware and no hiccups. Everything works flawlessly, without bugs, and you almost never (if ever) get a crash or any software problems on a surface device. Because just like Apple, surface devices are designed by microsoft, such as their software. So its a perfect combination of clean, optimized and stable windows with stable and perfect hardware.
The mix of design languages you are talking about is getting fixed day by day, and the latest Windows 10 is more coherent than never. It is starting to actually look beautiful, smooth and well done. The next updates will probably make it even better, microsoft is trying really hard to solve every problem possible.
The things about privacy, i get why they do them, but the first time you turn on your computer, you get asked and informed about those settings and you can turn them all of, they don’t come ON by default either, you have to literally click allow or deny.
The things about drivers you said is getting more automatic by the day. I dont even remember the last time i had to deal with drivers... you plug something in, its ready to use because microsoft is changing to a different way if handling drivers (DCH Drivers). And all manufacturers are starting to enter this new driver scheme. They are completely automatic to install and they dont mess with other system files, its clean and safe with no input required from the user.
Also windows now has linux subsystem so you can literally use a linux terminal with a complete ubuntu or debian or whatever install behind it, to develop on it.
Yes windows is a nightmare, or was, but is growing and getting perfected each day, mac users should really just stop hating on it...
i really like your videos now, the transitions and animations! keep it up! cheers!
I like your videos Mr Rettinger, you are a fair and comprehensive reviewer.
Imma need that wallpaper link
edit: i own a surface laptop gen 1 and it's my daily driver, and 50% volume sounds ridiculous to me, because for me 10-20 is plenty loud for most things
That’s an amazing wallpaper on the surface!
unsplash.com/photos/BP2RioglKXk
Here you go
I think your point about this being not a gaming notebook or a video editing power house are valid. But I was wondering, did you run rocket league at the native resolution of that screen? If so just turning down the resolution a touch would probably lend that to be much more usable. And for the video editing, I think throwing a 4k timeline at it seems a little unfair, 1080p would probably be a more likely use case I'd imagine. Great review, just seemed a little strange in places.
I love my surface laptop 2, would never consider a Mac. The 3 looks incredible also
Vasilios Sotiropoulos I had a 2 then got a 3. For some reason the screen has bad backlight bleed even with colors on the screen. Was disappointed cause I liked my 2
So far, best windows laptop i've used is the Lenovo p52s. Built like a tank, solid performance, EXCELLENT dev machine, wonderful keyboard. Trackpad is aight, but i just use a mouse
Feels like I’m watching a Nadal vs Federer match with all these never ending bouncing back and forth
@@thegoodguy44 didn't think I would find a comment like this on a tech video
The Good Guy ...what? Your reply to the comment doesn't make sense.
The 13" model that has intel processors should have thunderbolt. I have the original surface laptop and the lack of thunderbolt is the only thing that kept me from upgrading to this new one. Fingers crossed for the laptop 4 to finally have it because I never want to use anything other than a surface product again.
There’s no thunderbolt 3... so. Otherwise, it’s an excellent laptop.
At first I thought it was about the surface pro x...
Would've been helpful to have the laptop name in the thumbnail
The cinematography...on point.
Amazing talk as usual. Thanks for the video!
Great video Jon, I will give it to the folks in Redmond, they made a great looking laptop. Out of the different models that they make, this is the design that to me is more practical. If I wanted a Mac equivalent with Windows, I would look no further than this laptop. I will say the lack of indent to open the laptop is a bit cumbersome but for what you get, it is a minor annoyance. Keep up the great content!
Huawei is your answer. Almost the same name and fit and finish.
I was able to order the 15” Intel version right off the Business site without having any business set up.
nice vid, and yes its a shame there is no external graphics card box connection. no desktop needed anymore if that will be sort of the future. thats the only thing that can be modular for all consumers. just plug and play and you will have a workstation if you want for gaming or editing.
Honestly the one thing that really is a show stopper for me is that there's not an sd card slot. I own a dell xps 15 from a few years back and it still preforms great... but if i were to upgrade now i'd still take that just because of the sd card slot
Keep in mind that Thunderbolt 3 is an Intel port. Wouldn't see it on an AMD machine.
you can buy the the 15in model in the intel variant without a business account you just have to find the page to order it.
When Jon is talking I can only pay attention to his repetitive hand movements.
It’s unclear what you’re wanting Apple to beat from this video? Besides the keyboard, touchscreen and aspect ratio, I’m not sure what the Mac is missing that this has or does better.
Surprisingly an M1 MacBook now offers better value compared to even the price to performance ratio of these.
Love your videos, but this seemed like a rushed advertisement compared to your recent documentary videos.
The lack of IO is a big no to me, even though I do admit it has gorgeous look...
arcanacooper dame should at least have two type c ports not a charger, type c, and a regular usb.
Yeah the Surface line is looking good atm. Microsoft are doing the right things with their laptops.
Apple has built a loyal customer base though! hard to challenge that! good insight btw!
The lack of Thunderbolt 3 at this point is absolutely ridiculous. I'm a OG surface book owner and honestly, while the magnetic charge/dock connector is nice, for the love of God you're not Apple 10 years ago the proprietary crap doesn't do anything but cost you sales. I'd go with any of Razer or Lenovo's equipment over this just for this reason and I don't feel like I'm alone on this.
When you're paying this much for a laptop plus the equipment required to dock it I'd be happier if the dock was interchangable.
No thunderbolt 3, no 10 hours battery, not good at video editing, good keyboard, good trackpad, good screen.
What is this? A Chromebook?
Sounds like the MacBook that everyone loved from 2015 with one port that had basically a iPhones motherboard don’t even say anything
It's not the Surface Book. It's a laptop for your average consumer who wants an above average laptop that is reliable and feels premium. Different laptops for different markets. If it's not for you then buy something else.
I have a school issued chromebook and that has a good ass battery
AMD Ryzen doesn’t support Thunderbold 3 as of right now, 7-8 hours battery is pretty average for an 8th gen Intel laptop. It’s meant for *productivity*. Think HP Envy x360 15z, or that Ryzen based Lenovo I forgot about.
Superb review, wish they had the 15” with an intel processor available to the public 🤦🏻♂️
love the air jordan kicks man! sneaker game is getting legit
2010: Apple is crazy with that prices for laptop... Windows laptops are way better and cheaper.
2019: You can't play games on this 1500€ windows laptop.. but it's premium quality. Beat this, apple.
What $1500 Mac can play games well?
Hey John, you can purchase them via Microsoft Store. No identification or registration required.
MS should put the screen supports in the Surface Pro devices in the laptops. That would be unique.
I’ve had 13.5 “ version black since release-best productivity /mobility/nicest look ever.
when i saw the thumbnail, for a sec i thought it was dave lee's video
That intro music is amazing. What is it? Sample is crazy
If the Surface Laptop 3 had faster flash storage, I think it would be the best all around Windows laptop.
Usually I never comment on the product but I do on the type of professional video you make man. Good job 👍🏻
$100 if you keep your hands in your pockets for the entirety of your next video.
Its unique, looks like a black MacBook Pro with bootcamp on it. Haha, honestly it looks good but I’ve been disappointed with surfaces in the past.
Damn, I need that wallpaper on the laptop
unsplash.com/photos/BP2RioglKXk
Here you go
5:00 Pun of the year
Jon to be fair, you show your videos that you shoot in , I'm guessing, 2:1. Even my 16:9 laptop has black bars on top and bottom. Nice video overall though
I don't understand what this is for? That's a metric ton of money for something that a laptop half the price. Honestly it's seems like your just paying extra for the looks.
i dont mind if apple sells the 2014 chassis with updated internals.. i would still gladly buy that over what they are offering now
I hope it does have a better „paint job“ than my Surface Pro 6. The black of my tablet is literally peeling of on all the edges (and I am ultra careful with the thing). Even though I like the Surface line, this is really disappointing.
His videos should be nominated for short films oscar
Seems like this is competition for the MacBook Air, great school or work laptop, not really competing with the 15” MBP which can pretty much handle gaming and video editing (at least those are two uses I have for mine but I have the upgraded GPU.) It seems like a nice laptop though and it seems like Microsoft are doing good stuff with their hardware.
It’s still running windows that’s really the difference
windows is a superior OS
Anjan Babu Apples and oranges
smart move with the glossy display. Matte displays are one of the biggest reasons i don't go for windows laptops
Someone pointed out that Jon moves his hands around alot and now I can’t focus on anything else
Surface Book 3 is what MS need to bring to the market
Thunderbolt 3 is an Intel proprietary technology. You won't get it on an AMD based machine, no matter what. Until USB 4 comes, which is like the open standard of thunderbolt 3, this is it.
Actually there is the Asrock AMD X570 that does have Thunderbolt. but its seems like a alot of other manufacturers don't want to pay the license
@@charles.vernier Oh sorry, I didn't know Intel started licensing it. Last time I checked it was not available to anyone.
The Intel-based models are available on Amazon.
digging the hyrule shield!
Why is it so stylish to hate Apple?
I love that background! do you remember what it was called?
what are you on about? my 13.5 inch is easy to open with one finger. the top part is slightly protruded over the bottom. so can lift up anywhere on that edge.
Why people love Mac devices? Beautiful Device and beatiful MacOS UI. Surface ==Beautiful Devices with an Ugly, Inconsistent OS UI. People love beautiful and handsome faces and it is the same with Devices and OS.
Why would the Intel versions be faster? Talking about mobile CPUs now. AMD vs Intel is neck and neck CPU performance wise with AMD in general having a bit more GPU power.
where did you find that wallpaper?! very nice.
Microsoft - Apple, beat this.!
Apple - (insert any laptop running OSX) - done
Microsoft - ...yeah but ours is like matte black
Apple - slow clap.
Was this shot/edited in 24fps?
That wallpaper looks dope!! Can i have a link for that?
No thunderbolt 3.. Does Microsoft just hate us or something?
Looks like a very clean laptop. I would love to upgrade to that from my hammydown toshiba laptop. But I am however building my gaming pc this year. Maybe one day I will be able to get a new laptop. I love mac os but they are just too overpriced.
Nice review
0:00 LG should introduce that 32-bit dac in their Laptops too
Found the wallpaper on Unsplash after some detective work. It’s by this artist named Paweł Czerwiński unsplash.com/photos/BP2RioglKXk
Doesn't anyone knows where to get that sweet wallpaper??
unsplash.com/photos/BP2RioglKXk
Here you go
What about for interior design/ architecture users? Are they good with big softwares like AutoCad, Revit, Sketchup?
Way better review than D2D.
I've been looking for a new laptop that could handle Adobe Illustrator and Adobe Photoshop and I wanted to wait for new macbook but it doesn't look like it's coming out anytime soon, plus i'm really not into the butterfly keys of the macbook. I was wondering if the surface laptop 3 can handle Adobe software?
yes of course,this laptop for work also play some game,
@@emo137 cool. Thank you 😊
Please put the link of your wallpaper
Excellent review!
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Why I switched to Linux?
Funny to watch this after MP 16”
Funny even when you understand the price is twice different 😭
@@MikeShPr It's not. The 16GB RAM Surface laptop 3 is priced very closed to the entry MacBook Pro 16. I see no point of buying this really.
@@davidletterboyz lol what? Why do you lie? 2400 $ vs 1700 $? 700 $ difference is so close for you???