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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2022
- When developer Modern Storytellers wanted to make its successful Skyrim mod The Forgotten City a full-fledged game, they planned for a two year reskin. What they didn't know is that the small decision would derail the game's development for years.
The Forgotten City is a murder mystery, stuck in a time loop, set in an intricately designed Roman City. It's so well realized, that if you didn't know, you might assume the game was built from the ground up to always be that way. In actuality, it started as a Skyrim mod set in an underground Dwarven city.
The original mod was a huge success, amounting in millions of downloads and garnered several writing awards including Best Interactive Media from the Australian Writers' Guild. Designer/writer Nick Pearce enjoyed making the mod so much that he left his established career as a lawyer to pursue game development full-time and bring the mod to life as a full-fledged standalone game.
What was intended as a two year endeavor to remake the game in a Roman setting turned into a cascading list of problems that would cause Nick Pearce and his development team, Modern Storytellers, to rewrite and rebuild the game from the ground up.
This is the story of how changing the setting broke The Forgotten City.
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I hope games like The Forgotten City, Outer Wilds and Return of the Obra Dinn end up becoming a whole genre with many titles. I really like these types of mystery-solving games.
For me they're "puzzle adventure" games and the genre already exist since at least Myst (and revive since at least The Witness) but I know some papers who says like you that there are all new "Brainvania".
@@garkham i can see what you mean, but i feel with especially the forgotten city and outer wilds theyre such a narrative take on it that i struggle seeing it as *puzzle* adventure in that same sense. obra dinn is more in that more classic puzzle type of puzzle adventure, but yea, its weird to think about
Have you ever played 12 minutes? It's also a game where you re-live the same 12 minutes everyday until you solve the mystery. It has 6 endings.
@@cerpin_text Their entire games are based on solving puzzles
@@cerpin_text Soooo uhhh will forgotten city scratch my outer wilds itch?
Is it worthy?
GREAT game. I liked the way it handled the rogue type elements without having to repeat the same actions/discussions over and over again. Very engaging story. Well worth playing until you unlock the best ending.
Although this game is on game pass, I actually bought it when it was on sale and I don't regret it at all. Such an underrated and complete surprise of a title. This and guardians basically had my two favorite stories of any video game of 2021
This game was amazing i loved the gameplay and the story when you find out about sentilla it blew my wig back
Terrific game, can't Imagine how hard it was to make all the actions work.
It was certainly sobering learning Nick’s story, and just how dire it was to piece this game together with a team of like 3 people over 4+ years (not including the mod he made). Great game.
One of my favourite experiences EVER.
A city built upon a city built upon a city. Thats exactly in the theme of the game!
Such a good game. I’m glad it came together. I really appreciated all the work. And the ending really got me. Can’t wait to see what he does next.
Fantastic game, and fantastic expose. I dig your reporting style, Kurt. It's obvious you put a lot of time and research into your pieces, so whenever I see one of these videos pop up in my feed I know I'm not wasting my time. Keep up the great work!
Always and immensely appreciate your time watching these videos and commenting. Thank you for the support, PLAYER1
I'm commenting a year after this video came out and I have to say that this game is great. I started and finished it in one day because very few times I have seen a game made with such effort, by a really small team, and with this palpable care. Thank you!
Love the domino metaphor re: both doing it over and over as well as how elements are linked together and one change can have a… domino effect. Nice!
This game is legendary in my eyes. Loved it from start to finish, all that hard work truly showed.
Awesome game, finished it today with the best ending without any help, bossmode 😎👌
One of the best games I’ve played
*Forgotten City, CONTROL, Life Is Strange and Outer Wilds are the most creative games I've played in the last 10 years* 👍
Downloaded this game last week, haven’t slept since.
Fantastic presentation from Gamespot, what a wonderful idea for a video!
Played this game on game pass. Such a well written and well presented time-loop story
Same and agreed. Loved it
This game was so incredibly well made! Very impressed. The attention to detail is amazing and made the game such a pleasure to play
4:50 hehehe thank you
You’re welcome
Great expose! Appreciate the highlighting of the domino effect that is (unfortunately) common in game development.
The moustache and toga combo is A+ as well.
Thank you so much, bc! Hearing devs stories on how quickly something can just crumble apart is vastly sobering. I think it was the Weird West dev that told me making games can be like having to reinvent the wheel every single time. And that sticks with me.
For me it was 2021s Game of the Year.
Excited for a sequel.
I had heard this game was a mod first, but I had no idea the differences ran so deep! The historical setting added so much to the experience
Wow, perseverance, passion, jumping off a cliff and building wings on the way down--I love the story behind the game. I've never played a time-loop game before and was a little lost even after I got to my first ending (3). I went through again and got to ending 4 this time. I love the game. It was engrossing. The characters and their world are now enriching my everyday world.
Loved this game! And this video is an awesome look at the development of it!
Glad you liked it, and thank you for watching! I’m a big fan of The Forgotten City so it was certainly an honor to tell this side of Nick’s story
Thanks to game pass that introduced this amazing game i even started to search for similar games and found outer wilds
I would say that outerwilds is a more extreme version of this. I actually completed Outerwilds first and stubbled upon this game by chance. I drew comparisons right away. The Forgotten City can be completed in around 10 game hours without any guides. Whereas outerwilds took me several weeks to pick apart. And I needed a little bit of outside help. If you like this game and want an extreme challenge version of it, but with more gameplay mechanics. Outerwilds is a perfect experience. You do trade out voice acting for text. And you need to do a lot of you’re own “figuring things out”. But that’s what makes it a great challenge. There’s almost no hand holding and that makes for an very rewarding exploration of the world.
I've played both the Skyrim mod and the actual game, I absolutely love them both.
Same! If anyone in the comments is down here reading this, you HAVE to play both of these (give yourself a breather between the versions, though).
I was always going to play both if only to support the creator, but the domino effect changes of removing the TES setting made the standalone The Forgotten City a delightful surprise for me; same excellent writing that carried the mod, but everything was a new experience that felt more like a spiritual sequel!
My game of the year for 2021.
I absolutely loved this game.
It worked perfectly in the end though
Fascinating!
Salve friends. I just wanted to say that I enjoyed this video a lot.
I absolutely loved the story of this game
Was an amazing game.
One of the best games I've ever played
But if a God can be the reason for the timely? Why couldn't a god be the reason for the light source?
Are you sleeping better?
Ah yeah it's like night and day.
Yes that's how sleeping works.
lol
My 2021 GOTY!
The original. The Skyrim mod was far and away better. Especially the voice acting which is very telling. Paid work will never be at the same level as work done purely for the passion.
Gamestop trying out PMG style games docu-pieces huh? I like the format. Though PMG is special because of how dedicated those guys are to the craft of journalism.
What is this Oblivion?
Like 👍
Whoever's reading this, i pray that whatever you're going through gets better and whatever you're struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen
Sounds like a job of reaally bad planning.
when they decided to change the setting to rome they had to redo all the pillars, aesthetics, clothes, light source, voice actors and backstories.
fixed your overlong video for you
The game is not very memorable unfortunately, maybe because the ending was so cliche
Explain ? Compare it to they majority of titles, can you justify your argument?
For me it was 2021s Game of the Year.
Excited for a sequel.