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- Before Deathloop was released to critical acclaim, early playtesters found the game so incomprehensible that it required a redesign in order to save the game from utter disaster.
Back in June 2020, the world saw gameplay from Deathloop for the very first time, revealing its slick gunplay, cool aesthetic, and an intriguing mystery to unravel. The video was met with roaring excitement.
For fans, the chance to delve into a new world developed by Arkane Lyon was exciting. Internally, however, Deathloop wasn't garnering the same enthusiasm, with a lot of early playtesters not understanding what the game even was.
Dana Nightingale, Deathloop's campaign director, tells the story of the redesign that saved the game from near disaster. Early user research had criticized the game for its obtuse and esoteric design, with some players confusing it for a different genre entirely. Much like the premise of the game, Dana had to approach the game's design from many different angles over and over again, until piecing together something coherent for early playtesters to understand only weeks before its official release date.
This is the story of the redesign that saved Deathloop.
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Arkane : the studio that wanted to make games for smart gamers... and realized they weren't that many.
Fr, it's so sad they had to change it to hold the players hand. It would have been so fun using your brain to try to break the loop.
Gatekeeping won't make games successful, accessibility will always be more important.
@@NOF4C3: THANK YOU! It's good to see someone actually make sense! While it's great that some games are like a puzzle to be solved, it's not an excuse to hinder and frustrate players. I swear, even though the "Soulsborn" series is great, the cult of "Get Gud" has poisoned so many players' minds.
@@troyjardine5850
Gatekeeping and staying true to design decisions made Elden Ring one of the highest-grossing games ever made. Making boiler-plate, run-of-the-mill games leads to a AAA industry that couldn't design its way out of paper bag, which is why something like Elden Ring was able to excel.
@@NOF4C3 I consider myself a smart gamer whose been doing it for over 30 years. The issue isn't gatekeeping. It's not executing the design well enough for even "smart" people to get it. The video emphasizes multiple playtests forced Dana to realize she had to change something because nobody was understanding her original intent. That would be fine if she was a film director where intent is often up to interpretation, but not game design where intent is literally the game people will be playing for the next 10-20 hours. This is the definition of accessibility aka making it so more people can not only play the game, but understand what you're supposed to be doing in it.
so... the worst part of Deathloop came from the fact that the playtesters were... too bored? Thats really unfortunate. Hoping whatever they're working on next is actually able to reach Dana's original vision, cuz I wouldve loved to play that game instead.
i feel the game wouldve lasted longer than a couple days for me, and it only lasted that long because i had classes. It wasn't complicated to figure out, and the side quests such as the spy bunker and Pick Rexly were the best parts of the game, because you actually had to go and discover it all for yourself.
So the ai making the great level design was for nothing thks to them too dumb to act smart in it was not the worst part?
Not gonna lie I hated deathloop in the beginning but once I learned how to play it and how everything pieces it self together I fell in love with it
Same
same here, felt that the beginning was too long and was holding your hand too much, then it opened up and Colt was powerless... until you play more, and more.
completely opposite for me, I enjoyed thee start and exploration with experimentation, but once the game started handholding it lost me :(
I wanna play Dana's original idea, please. Can we get a director's cut?
If you want Dana's original idea, it's called Prey: Mooncrash (another game by Arkane, ironically).
Its quite ironic that deathloops motto is making games they would like to play but changing the game so much based on the testers feedback. I know it makes sense since they need to adhere to the publishers demands.
@@SMJSmoK or just. . .I dunno. . .turn off ALL the guides and UI elements and don't rely on "mission" system. I played with all of this turned off and yes the original sounds more exciting, but you CAN get to the original form without the game leading you by the nose (other than the first loop).
Same here, that game would be so amazing.
@andersonanderson1009 exactly this option is also available in dishonored
I wonder whether now that players know Deathloop they could create a more abstract version of it. Just how Dishonored didn't do Clockwork Mansion straight away but had a much simpler game first. So a Deathloop 2 that is exactly as cryptic and abstract as Dana originally wanted it where one can effectively say play the first Deathloop for a tutorial. I'd love to play that original version.
I also love these vids. Great stuff Kurt.
hopfully
The tutorial should be optional. 1. So returning players don't have to go through it. So new players can make the decision to go in blind.
I HATED the handholding in deathloop, was the reason I stopped playing after 7-8 hours. Wish that original version had turned out better.
I would call this video "how redesign killed Deathloop". I enjoyed the game, but it was so unsatisfying not having to solve the puzzles. I felt like Colt was playing instead of me! Charlie's games were fun though.
I'd love to try out that pre-redesign build. I don't think the tutorial was really "disguised" at all. I absolutely understand the possibility that the previous design was really not communicating enough crucial info, but I'd still be very interested to see what was sacrificed in order to make the experience more digestible.
If this ever gets a sequel or something, I hope they go more non linear. A mid ground between the alphas and the current game
Just less fetch quests, I gave up when I couldn’t do the pictographs
@@samuraitabernac3050 there are plenty of videos explaining this part of the quest
I really hope it doesnt get a sequel. Not because I dont like it but look at what happened with dishonored. New ips are always better
@@100dayGamer What happened to Dishonored
@@shortfuse9443 dishonored 2 did not live up to dishonored 1. So it didnt sell as much. It wasnt a total failure but it definetly wasnt a grand success. But also I think most people like new ips, especially from arkane.
3:45 Wow... When explained like this, this game suddenly seems so much more elegant.
Trust me, fitting that explanation in less than a minute couldn't be done without Dana's insight and Chris (editor/animator) to create that visual template
Sounds like they need to find better game testers, because the absolute worst part of Deathloop was how linear it was and it only gave you the illusion of freedom.
yeah but that was the whole core design choice that Dana decided for whatever reason to force.
I can assure you whoever they found to test the game were probably as close as you get to the average player
the game might be imperfect right now but had they not done what they did, it would be straight up worse
@@papermartin879 maybe the dev known for player choice and archetype expression shouldn't have made a game that lacks any.
@@Haargeroya the game had less player agency but it still had it. The other option here was a game that was just plain bad. What's the point of giving player more agency if the result in this specific case wouldve been (and for the testers was) a confusing and frustrating experience?
@@papermartin879 ok let me boil it down for you. Maybe this game shouldn't have been made at all
This is a great video. I started the video while at work. Phone rang. So turned off the phone and started watching again. A coworker needed assistance. I helped them and started the video again. Power went out. Generator kicked in. I started watching again. I think Arkane would be proud.
Nice job with the physical puzzle analogy in this, Kurt! Once Dana was talking about putting everything together in the correct order, and you were completing the puzzle? *chefs kiss* I always enjoy the little flourishes you add to your stuff.
Who are the game testers for Arkane? Because it sounds like they have to get better game testers. I still like the game bu this "redesign" was the worst aspect of the game, it didn't even have a illusion of you solving the puzzle, it felt like buying a puzzle then giving it to a AI robot to solve while you watch. Maybe the game should've had a extra guided mode, and the original intent was kept.
I never get why games don't implement things like this more, using toggles or checkboxes. We have "iron man" mode in many games, why not a "disable hints" check or something. Seems like a relatively simple thing to implement. If players choose to disable hints and get stuck, that's on them. But I guess many players, myself included, would welcome a challenge for the brain as well as for the twitchy shooty-shooty fingers.
@@BertPauw this stuff does exist in Deathloop but it's buried in the menus and never really explained or shown to the player. It's so unfortunate too as I think the game is much better experience when played without all the help from the game.
@@BAD7667 Unfortunately you can only really disable quest markers and objective hints. You still have to go through the railroaded tutorial, and you still get (admittedly skippable) cutscenes which explain the solution at the end.
Great video! I really wish they had released that build where they don't tutorialize anything as an option in the settings. That feeling Dana is describing of being completely lost and slowly piecing things together really appeals to me and I probably would've enjoyed it a lot.
I think the hard part about the game design is the “holding onto information” part. You need a way to reference things you learned last week during that 30 minute session you had.
I think the cards were a good idea. An option to organize info yourself or not have pop-ups or prompts as to what to do next would give some flexibility to challenge.
Hopefully they can do another and can create multiple golden loops.
I loved this game. My only wish was for the story to be longer.
You’re for sure in the minority lol most people thought it was mid. I gave it 7/10
Kurt's videos are the best GameSpot videos. This was a great look into Deathloop. Although I felt little empty after finishing the game, I still enjoyed the game!
Thank you very much for watching!
Totally agree! First time I've seen a video of his, it held me the entire time and I didn't fast forward once LOL!
@@TK42run and thank you for taking the time to stick it through! There’s many more videos where that came from.
I don't get the hate people have for this game. I don't think it's as good as Dishonored but it's still a great gamer.
For myself and many others it is simply a dumbed version of what Arkane excels at. The levels aren’t filled with the same level of options and creativity, the ai seems like it hasn’t been fully designed and it’s overall way too hand-holdy. Prey is their greatest game so far by a significant margin
@@OldMateJohn I do agree with you that Prey is their greatest game but what I don't get is why fans of Arkane's games would play the game with all of the handholding mechanics turned on in the first place. I've seen the same complaints from fans of their previous games and just like those games, Deathloop allows the player to turn off all of those things completely, and much like Dishonoured and Prey, the game is better without the help.
I also believe when the player does turn off all of those directed options all the other aspects of the game people don't enjoy like the bad AI starts to make much more sense if the game was designed around being a puzzle game first like this video explains. Having strong or challenging AI would start to get very annoying when you are actually trying to solve the big puzzle and find clues after traveling to a location for the 50th time in a loop. It makes sense players would find the AI bad if they played it like a linear FPS game with some light problem-solving as combat becomes a much larger part of the game than was originally intended.
I think fans of Arkane's previous games would think much more highly of Deathloop had they played the game with the hints and objective markers turned off. The game is a different experience when played like that and I think those people specifically would appreciate it a lot more, even though the game has fewer options for creativity.
@@BAD7667 I think with hand-holdy mechanics and more easier options and such its the more common way to play because the casual gamer is the more common one. So even within niche genres you're gonna have more people that are playing it casually. At least, thats how I've always viewed it.
I tried giving the game another go with the objective markers turned off but it doesn't feel designed for it. Prey can easily be played by navigating with the signs around the environment and if you need to be put back on track you can open the journal. Deathloop doesn't really have the same visual cues or journal to put you in the right direction. You'd either be wandering around until you're in the right area, rely on the odd text on-screen (still has the issue of holding your hand) or know where to go beforehand.
@@OldMateJohn Arkanes motto is all about making games they would play so if they had to make this game just to put their name on the map I hope they get bavk to that idea and not rely too heavy on testers to redesign their games
One of the biggest gripes I had with Deathloop was that it was too 'hand-holding'. This video sheds a whole new light on why.
Just started the game on the steam deck. Gotta say, it's still confusing at the start, but after finishing the tutorial you feel like your in a playground for the first time in your life, where you can do anything and of you mess up you just start over and experiment. It's like you can't fail, in the best way possible.
The game is my favorite fresh IP of 2021 well deserving of it's many nominations and it's two wins at the 2021 Game Awards as well as it's 2021 Game of the Year win from you guys! I put my gaming heart on Deathloop enough that it became my game on Steam #12 out of my 19 Perfect Games on Steam that I'm currently rocking after earning all achievements. I gave Deathloop as a Steam Christmas present to my younger brother who enjoyed previous Arkane projects in both mainline Dishonored games. Nice video btw!
This game doesn’t even come close to the quality of dishonored. 6/10 at best. Resident evil village was a better goty in 2021
This game is amazing, in my first playthrough and I'm just at the point where I can infuse weapons, it's now making sense. I can say to anyone playing, stick it out and you will fall in love with it
Second playthrough is meaningless, you can experience all game in one go, kinda dissapointing
I stuck with it and came away wishing it was dishonored 3 or something. To me this was 6/10. A lost opportunity to make something better
When I started the game, I was taking notes. I loved it, I felt like I was playing dishonored and myst combined. Then I saw all the notes and hand holding and realized it was just linier. I saw the vision and wished I could have played it.
I didn't understand the game at first either. Since I never played any other title by Arkane (Dishonored, etc). But once I figured it out, it has been one of the best games I've ever played. It's really an experience, where they do a great job of player emersion. In a (hypothetical) sequel they should give the players an option to skip a tutorial if they have played this game, and allow multiple solutions to the final puzzle. And I really hope they do a sequel!
Oh man. That sounds like a real interesting creative vision that was thrown out of the window to adhere to common taste. I guess I understand that you need to make your money back and creativity is a risk in the industry. But I whould have loved to see the more open approach come to fruition. This could have been an all time favorite like Prey was for me.
Sounds like you completely misinterpreted the video
They didn't throw out that vision, they adapted it. And they didn't do so to adhere to common tastes, they did it because their testers (probably peoples chosen among the target audience for that vision mind you) literally couldn't understand the game
The game in its final state has flaws but you have to understand they had to basically salvage a game that peoples -including their own community- would not have enjoyed at basically the last minute. I didn't enjoy it as much as I did dishonored but I gotta admit the result of their efforts is admirable
@@papermartin879 Thank you for clarifying. It seems I've been lead astray in my conclusion about this.
Prey was the furthest thing from "drop players into a world and let them do what they want". It very, very slowly expanded the player's world and their ability to move around and interact with it. Heck, the whole opening area was a manipulation-within-a-manipulation. (Which was, itself, within another one.)
Immersive sims are very, very hard to make well, and while "immersive sim in a time loop" is a great idea, Deathloop really only partially succeeds in living up to it.
This guy always does top content. Surprised he hasn't gone solo
And the number 1 complaint about the game is going it holds your hand too much
I frequent the subreddit, and you'd be surprised by how many people STILL don't get it.
@@ArchHippy They're Redditors. Of course they don't understand it.
Out of context but I love Kurt's interior design. Good taste.
These are really the comments I'm looking for, if I'm being honest
@@KurtIndovina Love your honesty. Keep up the good work, bro.
Good taste and even better hair!
Sounds like the playtesters kinda made the game worse...
Maybe they tried to take all the feedback from the testers and implement it, or maybe they just had really bad playtesters that didn't even know what genre the game was. But Deathloop definitely feels like a compomise of something interesting, dumbed down to appeal to "everyone".
I’m glad the game received great reviews, even though there was a lot of compromise. Design is tough, especially with all the layers and features present in Deathloop.
Maybe if the game gets a sequel another version of Dana’s vision can be realized. Though perhaps on a smaller scale if it’s too complex.
For anyone that thought this game was pretty pants considering the reviews, I highly recommend the Prey dlc Mooncrash. It's another time loop game from the same studio, just better in every conceivable way.
Maybe the problem was that Arkane went from a franchise designed around player freedom and choice to a game designed explicitly about doing everything in a very specific order or fail. The only choice is to continue or quit.
imo They went way too heavy with these changes. I think just having the tutorial loop would have been enough. Imagine how satisfying it would have been to discover how to keep your weapons yourself
More of this content please!
The main problem with Deathloop imo was that they didn’t know what audience to make the game for. The more vibrant artstyle and focus on characters and humour suggested that they were aiming for a broader audience than just the immersive sim crowd. However, Arkanes immersive sim roots are very noticeable in the open ended level design and the overall open ended structure of the game. In the end what you get is a mish mash of more deep immersive sim elements mixed with more action heavy fast paced combats, and lead to a very uneven experience
This was the first game where I really enjoyed finding another sheet with some information about the game's world. Truly a masterpiece and one of my favorite games
Dana’s original vision sounds far better than the game we got and similar to the one I think we all imagined when we first saw the trailer for it. The game we got was good don’t get me wrong, but I always imagined a open ended Outer wilds style dishonored game where you were free to explore and come up with your own way of taking out each visionary.
Deathloop game was looked like a game that “arkane” built just for testing their future game
The thing is that after playing the game I felt like it was extremely linear and the game was holding my hand the entire time and I had no time to think for myself. Especially the final day was frustrating because I was told EXACTLY what to do step by step. Also there’s only one way to break the loop so you can’t even do it your way
They should release an update that adds this original version of the game as a playable option
You know what’s funny. I played this game in such a non linear fashion, by accident. It was amazing.
Creative Director of Deathloop said he REFUSED to take any input from Prey Mooncrash (which was time loop based) he played one hour of it, realised it was a time loop game and UNISTALLED IT!!! (No-Clip Interview). He refused to play any time loop games or other game similar to his project until he completed his game, which is why the game felt so backwards compared to Prey Mooncrash and feelt un-evolved by both its linear gameplay, unchanging maps, and lack of enemy variation.
When the games leading solution is to hand hold the character through the whole first act of an immersive simulation game, it coaches the player NOT to explore, teaches them to follow the markers. Its how a game about loops... ended up being linear and trivial to complete.
Wow. So the director refused to learn from other examples including from his own studio. This explains so much. It's also extremely familiar. It sounds just like what went wrong with Bioware and Anthem.
I never knew it had accessibility options. Got the game with my ps5 can finally return to this clearly great game!
I still haven't gone back to finish the last 1/4 of the game, and I love all Arkane's other work. So I guess for people like me it wasn't 'saved', lol
I finished the whole thing, you're not missing much... it was such a disappointment
I kinda wish the game didn't hold my hand, but given that my attention span could fit on a pin head, I fear I'd give up on solving it
As I listen to this, I completely understand the problem with the "give nothing, let the player figure it out" idea. Even if you don't give the player any real hints to the game's answer, you at least need to clearly tell them what the 'question' is.
If only the solution to the loop was ACTUALLY a puzzle and not just the illusion of one. You have Charlie’s games that are actual interesting puzzles that have depth and are difficult to solve right? If only the rest of the game was that.
I have yet to play Mooncrash but I hear they should have just copied that piece for piece.
I feel like finding something in that early version would have been extremely satisfying
Game came out first for sony consoles, and these players usualy are familliarized with interactive movie games so I didn't expect a very different reaction from what happened
great video! Might be the first time I've watched a GameStop video without Johnathan Ferguson, and I'm impressed. Loved the puzzle metaphor b roll, and the mini-doc approach felt very clean and professional to make the point clear and understandable. Don't know why I'm writing a TH-cam comment like a movie review, but I guess I hope that you guys get the feedback because it's always helpful
Connor, that means a lot! Personally, I appreciate the movie review comment. I read all comments, and take them all into consideration. So I'm glad you were able to get down with something other than Jonathan!
"The intention was to drop the player in with little guidance..."
Literally has over 2 hours of tutorials, tips, gamplay breaking text walls, etc.
The least replayable arkane game to date, that is an amazing milestone indeed.
Doesn't need to be replayed, you replayed the game by playing it once. Big brain Arkane.
this game is a masterpiece... I hold it close to my heart, along with Bioshock and a few other favorites.
The gameplay was really really good and the story seemed amazing sadly the menus and tutorials and everything like that were just to overwhelming for me. I fell off after about 8hrs or so. Imma dumb gamer! Lol
this is a great game I don't know what anyone is talking about
all people do is always complain
A lot of people love to hate this game, and unfortunately not for good reason
@@TheMaskedWarrior92 well there's reason...but none of them have to do with the game...
@@gozearbus1584 that what i said for; bad thing being racist and/or playstation fanboys
@@TheMaskedWarrior92 facts
@@TheMaskedWarrior92 ikr it's the end off creation when a ps exclusive goes to xbox
Fitting they got young Andrew Ryan to do this video
I wanted to play since it came out but only got the PS5 a month ago. Got Deathloop on sale and ...... I almost quit. I was aimless. Then I watched the Gameranx 10 things they don't tell you and now I got infusion and I'm hooked
Great insights into the creation process.
8:04 Exactly, there was so much on screen I didn’t know what I was looking at, I didn’t understand the organization. I didn’t know which info belong to what location or what the info even meant in the grand scheme of things. I didn’t know what I was supposed to do with any of the stuff.
How? Visionary leads are your story and how you progress through the game, Arsenal leads are leads for legendary weapons.
That’s literally all you need to know.
so playtesters resulted in much of the originality being taken out
I'v got about 30 hrs in and it's just starting to make sense.
I deleted this game in less than a week. I'm sorry but it wasn't for me.
Only a few days left, Xboys! Hang in there.
I think its pritty sad that the game was changed that way a game dosent have to be for everyone. ALso they could have added a menu for like difficulty where you can chosse how many clues and tutorials you want so you can have the original game idea with the tutorials if you need them
Let's hope Arcane Lyon doesn't mess up like Austin :'(
dana is brilliant. glad she's at an awesome studio.
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@@sellahuncho5595 after listening to the"what is a woman" audiobook today, your reply made me smile.
It's such a shame, imagine this game where it doesn't explain what's going on. That would be so amazing but unfortunately they need to cater to the lowest common denominator. The original game would have blown my mind even more than the finished game did.
I come from Subnautica and Outer Wilds, Deathloop is basically baby-sitting in comparison... The real issue is years of player conditioning to be in control, to feel powerful and a linear sense of growth in-game, which is enforced by publishers... Considering this, it is a good game, but very lacking because it tries the middle-ground instead of being "boringly conformist" or "failing spectacularly"...
yeah, i loved the concept of this game, the visuals were great, but i found it too tedious to play thru.. hence, me stopping halfway through the game
Is this still coming to pc next month? Will it have crossplay? If so, Julianna will be back on the hunt lol.
It turned out too linear IMO. It worked great the first playthrough, but gave it little replayability. I hope they learned a lot, and make a sequel!
Well expecting players to read is the first issue. Should be explained in dialogues.
If they were hoping the game would be replayable I think they failed big time.
I have yet to understand what is it really going on, what the gameplay is supposed to be. There are some deaths that take you back a little bit, and other deaths that take you all the way back? And then I seem to, I guess, “finish“ a level but people are telling me you have to go through the timeline again and again until you figure things out? So then why do Levels say I completed them? And also the menu layout is extremely confusing I don’t know what anything is. There’s this purple stuff that I can’t access. It’s hard to follow what the characters are saying…
11:03 It's "mixed" on steam..
this is the most unintentionally sad video I have ever seen. The game players expected and wanted from Deathloop existed and was killed by focus testers. Arkane games can't be focus tested because they are a niche product, they can't be comprehensible to a mainstream audience because they weren't designed for that audience. The person who plays an Arkane game is intelligent and more acclimated to that freedom and puzzle solving aspect, these aspects are problems for a focus tester. not the game's intended audience. So now if you wondered why Deathloop felt confused and dumbed down, here's your answer. Companies need to accept that not every game can make 10 billion million dollars, some games are niche and that's fine.
I personally found Deathloop to be incredibly average.
Saved? Deathloop was abandoned by the devs right after launch and the MP, the most interesting aspect of it, is pretty much dead.
Am I mistaken I thought charlie was first available at noon not morning?
"massive island to explore"
Well....
I feel like it would've been cool to play the original, with nonlinear gameplay
This game is a masterpiece
W
I was surprised how much the game hold you by hand.
When i understand all there was still guide,do this do that.
Very unusual
The first design sound alot similar to prey moon would've love to see as a new mode maybe?
From her work alone on Dishonored 2, Dana is a genius immersive sim creator.
Her?
@@cullennowell7813 Yes Cullen, Dana is a woman.
Would be great if Deathloop was an immersive sim.
@@cullennowell7813 naw.
@@DirtyErnie989Only in your Fantasies.
Kurt Indovina has a big house, your bedroom is the whole size of my apartment
4:24 not to nitpick bc this is an awesome video but charlie is in updaam at noon!
Thats not the only place and time. But you'll need to figure the rest out.
@@TheErikrahl ...uh yeah im not talking about killing him in fristad im talking abt the fact that in the video he says charlie is in Updaam in the morning.
It good to see a game developed before release Vs. Putting out 💩 then making a massive update a week after release
I loved the art and theme outside the game. I don't think it connected to what was in game very well, BUT, I only watched gameplay, I didn't play it. I'm baffled as to why the reviews were so good, but the sales were so poor, at least in the US.
Sales were poor because...
-Loop games don't sell well.
-Arkane games don't sell well.
-New IPs don't sell well.
-Immersive sims don't sell well.
-The marketing was the worst I've seen.
-Immersive sim fans recognized it as baby's first immersive sim.
@@FinalDisintegration " baby's first immersive sim" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that actually made me laugh
@@TK42run I think it's a valid criticism. The whole game is one big hand hold. There's no variation or options whatsoever in how to complete it.
Did they ever fix the pause glitch? When you pause the whole game would just freeze and soft lock
Dude of course they did lol. The game didn’t get rated 10s everywhere with a game breaking big my guy
So it could have been even worse. I just finished Goldenloop on Series X and really had fun on last missions when this games becomes Dishonored in chaos mode only. Too short, repetitive and not really interesting story-wised. That needed work actually
It's a good game, I enjoyed. But it doesn't reach the height of Dishonored. Nor Dishonored 2. But still good, and worth playing if you are into these kind of games.
Worst part is enemy AI, it's terrible. Second worst part is the handholding, you are guided through the entire game. I understand it would be too difficult without it, but maybe they should have found a better solution, instead of complete handholding
had the game been saved.... it would have not been released
Why does it feel like Microsoft now basically tells them what to do. Arkane cannot do multiplayr games. I'm sorry.
I keep trying to like this game but just but haven't even gotten past the part where they let you keep your weapons between loops. I keep dying and having to restart.
Now if only they could fix a year plus bug that forces ya to restart if the menu won't close.
yes, confused and confusing
Nothing saved the atrocious and linear ending though.. the game is open in the beginning and then SHOEHORNS you in one very particular direction.
I really, really wanted to like this game. Unfortunately, I think it has plethora of narrative and game design flaws that makes just average. It even feels less accomplished than it's predecessors, and doesn't reach the full potential of its ideas. A disappointment, but I hope Arkane learns from this game and the feedback it got to make something better next time.
One of the biggest annoyances for me was how quickly I could max out every upgrade. Having to filter through so many upgrades I had fifty of at the end of each day was so obnoxious. There’s also wasn’t enough variety to the levels, and it got so repetitive after a while.
All video games are repetitive