Hi Gary from the UK here just wanted to know why is the pumps fitted on the flow and NOT on the return to the boiler, in the UK we always fit pumps on the return we find the pumps run cooler this extends the life of the pumps, I'm an old heating and ventilation engineer. Great video very interesting and informative keep them coming
Thanks Gary, I’m petty sure it’s because it’s a non pressurized system. On your typical boiler system it is pressurized and the pumps are on the return. Thanks for watching. Kevin
@@klwit1980 or is it because the boiler is set away from the property and there is no gravity flow to the hot water cylinder, all systems in the UK which are sold fuel or wood are gravity fed and have an open vent in case the boiler goes nuclear due to unforseen circumstances but the heating side of the unit is pumped to the radiators, but the pump is always on the return. Or if you sink the boiler into the ground you could create a gravity feed to your home as long as the boiler was deep enough into the ground
We was always told on the feed side to push the water through the system not pull it. The pump can be on the furnace or in the house just on the feed, just because it’s a non pressurized system.
This is the best go-over of the functional aspects of this line of machines, and how to access them, that I have seen. Despite the presenter not having a camera person and not being very articulate, the information content is top notch. Also, my comment on burning green or wet wood -- it's just plain dumb. People burning in wood stoves like to prolong and slow down the burn, which is why oak is popular, but modern appliances with good control allow you to burn pine or any dry wood, and the stove plus the heat content of the conducting water and the heated buildings can smooth out the burn. The most important thing is to burn completely at high efficiency so that you use much less wood and emit less junk. Burning wet wood is going to make it harder for even a well-designed stove to burn completely, and it will contribute more creosote into the heat exchanger and flue system, where somebody is going to have to clean it off.
Thank you for this very informative video! We just got a central boiler unit and their website videos are not that in depth and informative. Your video is hands on; and you tell it like it is. Can you do a trouble shooting video; like why and what you should do if your unit hits "boil." Maybe a video on all the cleaning?
I did a video on the 960, the guy upgraded from the old 2400. He is heating lots with it. You’ll love how it performs. Thanks for watching our channel. Kevin
Hey Kevin thanks for your response if you could my boiler I'm connecting is four zones force hot water including dhw can you explain how to hook up the water to water heat exchanger or reference a video
Call your dealer and he will be able to find out for you. You can go to CentralBoiler.com Click on Support Put in your serial number Type in your question and you should get a response asap. Thanks for watching our channel. Kevin
@@CWBKCI would think you have air flow problems, clean fire box ash so they are below the air hole and scrap down each side of the tube that blows air down into the reaction chamber. Check air flow in back by the chimney. Still a problem call CB. Thanks for watching,Kevin
@@klwit1980 for sure. Stove is only 3 months old and I clean it every week very thoroughly. With that said what’s your preferred FireStar settings?? I think these settings have some effect on burn quality.
I have not burned the new edges I owned the first generation it was the 2300 To answer your question you can adjust like more air , more of a differential on your temperature water temperature. It depends a lot on your heat load on which way to adjust. I’d get with your dealer or other owners in your area to see what they are doing. I’m thinking of doing a video on some of them questions. Thanks for watching our videos. Kevin
Would you put a cap on your stack?? I know there not supplied but seems like you would. Great video. I’m Starting my 760 shortly for the first time, using for radiant floor heat source.
I’ve had a 560 for 4 seasons now and I love it. Sadly, I wouldn’t recommend buying one though, unless you are very confident in your dealers competence and availability. In rural BC, Canada we have one dealer for a province bigger than several European countries combined. There is no one to contact if you ever do experience trouble and you can’t order parts directly. Great boiler, but a terrible business model. IMHO.
Thanks for the comment and watching, I agree some dealers just want to sell and not service. I built my business on treat people how you want to be treated. Maybe CB needs another dealer in that area to take care of the people, or call the office and voice your concerns. Wish I could help. Thanks again stay warm in the great north. Kevin
Eric great question, the best way to answer is how much propane,natural gas or heating oil do you use in a per month time? Like January and February. Then look at CB furnace Calculator and it will show which furnace to get. And furnace will heat what you want it’s how often you want to put wood in it. I like to load every 12 hours to see what’s going on and Monitor my wood use. To answer your question and this is my opinion 3,000-7,000 sq ft. But I’ll remind you it depends on how well insulated your home and if your heating another building is. Also what temperature are you going to keep them both. Lots of factors and you dealer in your area can answer. Thanks for watching our channel. Kevin
@@klwit1980 Thanks for the quick reply!! I’ll b heater 1800 square ft house, 1200 square foot garage and water heater with new 760. Hoping for 24 hour burns
Not sure how you're evaluating the CB to be "at the top" of the EPA list. There are at least 3 other brands on the list in your link that are higher efficiency and lower emissions. We looked at CB for a new boiler but the requirement to have to send in water samples yearly on a strict timeframe, otherwise your warranty can be voided by CB, turned us off. We ended up going with an interior boiler made in Europe. It works great so far but we'll see how it works over a decade or two.
Great units Kevin. The reality in 2022 is nobody can afford these units thanks to what Joe Biden and the Democrats have done to destroy the economy. I truly feel sad for the younger generation, just being able to acquire a house now days. People who would disagree with my statement just haven’t realized just how much damage has been inflicted; no one will escape what is coming. I’m a combat disabled veteran rated 100% permanent and total and I humbly submit the company’s really don’t care about what others have sacrificed, discounts are to promote the company to the public.
Thanks for your service to our country Tom, and I also believe the Biden administration needs to go. Thanks for your comment and watching our channel. Kevin
@@klwit1980 , I really enjoyed watching your video and message Kevin. My condition is permanent and I am very bitter at what America has become and Corporation’s lack of integrity on truly helping veterans in my condition. I wish people could really see where the money goes and exactly how much of their money is actually spent on the disabled veteran. I was relieved when the truth came out on Black Lives Matter.
Can certainly see the cheapness in central boiler in the last number of years. Having owned one for eighteen years I can tell you that their warranty isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. Crow royal makes by far a more superior less complex furnace & actually warrants what they sell.
Wow Jeff, I’m here trying to see if anyone else felt the same and damn it here you are. I have an E-1450 I installed 9 years ago that sprung a leak into the firebox on the 27th of December. Dealer said he’s not going to waste time with a warranty claim cause I’m not going to get any anyway. I’ve been trying to get ahold of central boiler ever since with no luck and no response to my messages. I have OCD and take care of it like it’s my first born. I really believed when they told me it had a 25 year warranty we were going to be trouble free for at least 20 years aside for a few minor repairs. I was extremely happy with it and now I’m getting really bitter! $12 grand Canadian 9 years ago and 20 grand to replace it now. They’re outta their minds thinking they have the slightest chance of ever selling me another one if they can’t come good on the warranty for this one.
@@draganarc0131 yes I hear ya. I was the same way. Followed recommended cleaning etc & burned dry wood. Big huge sticker on the side of the unit advertising 25 year warranty. 😂🤣😂. Only to find out it’s the door that’s warranted. Deceitful for sure. I wish you luck. I went back to old school. Grandpa bear fisher in the basement. I burn half the volume of wood & the house is warmer then ever.
I have a 9 year old 1450 that has sprung a leak on the bend on the right upper side of the door opening a couple weeks ago. It has been maintained properly! The metal is wearing thin around the entire door opening. Very disappointed!
@klwit1980 you didn't say coal. You were saying fly ash. Where I'm from, fly ash is a waste product from burning coal. They use it in asphalt. Some brands of these do use coal. Sorry for the confusion.
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Hi Gary from the UK here just wanted to know why is the pumps fitted on the flow and NOT on the return to the boiler, in the UK we always fit pumps on the return we find the pumps run cooler this extends the life of the pumps, I'm an old heating and ventilation engineer.
Great video very interesting and informative keep them coming
Thanks Gary, I’m petty sure it’s because it’s a non pressurized system. On your typical boiler system it is pressurized and the pumps are on the return. Thanks for watching.
Kevin
@@klwit1980 or is it because the boiler is set away from the property and there is no gravity flow to the hot water cylinder, all systems in the UK which are sold fuel or wood are gravity fed and have an open vent in case the boiler goes nuclear due to unforseen circumstances but the heating side of the unit is pumped to the radiators, but the pump is always on the return.
Or if you sink the boiler into the ground you could create a gravity feed to your home as long as the boiler was deep enough into the ground
We was always told on the feed side to push the water through the system not pull it. The pump can be on the furnace or in the house just on the feed, just because it’s a non pressurized system.
Nice overview man ... much appreciated. We just installed one and I'm still figuring out all the details on the stove
Appreciate it, you’ll love your furnace. Thanks for watching
Kevin
This is the best go-over of the functional aspects of this line of machines, and how to access them, that I have seen. Despite the presenter not having a camera person and not being very articulate, the information content is top notch. Also, my comment on burning green or wet wood -- it's just plain dumb. People burning in wood stoves like to prolong and slow down the burn, which is why oak is popular, but modern appliances with good control allow you to burn pine or any dry wood, and the stove plus the heat content of the conducting water and the heated buildings can smooth out the burn. The most important thing is to burn completely at high efficiency so that you use much less wood and emit less junk. Burning wet wood is going to make it harder for even a well-designed stove to burn completely, and it will contribute more creosote into the heat exchanger and flue system, where somebody is going to have to clean it off.
Thank you for this very informative video! We just got a central boiler unit and their website videos are not that in depth and informative. Your video is hands on; and you tell it like it is. Can you do a trouble shooting video; like why and what you should do if your unit hits "boil." Maybe a video on all the cleaning?
Thanks for the nice comment, also thanks for the idea on another video.
Have a great day.
Kevin
I got the 960 set to finish the installation in a couple weeks
I did a video on the 960, the guy upgraded from the old 2400. He is heating lots with it. You’ll love how it performs. Thanks for watching our channel.
Kevin
Hey Kevin thanks for your response if you could my boiler I'm connecting is four zones force hot water including dhw can you explain how to hook up the water to water heat exchanger or reference a video
@@silentknight9509 look on CB’ s TH-cam they probably have a video on that installation. If not email me your phone number and I can call you. Kevin
Great Video. Heading out to put a down payment this week. Thanks for the awesome information!!
Thanks Dan for watching our videos and you will love your furnace. Kevin
does anyone have a measurement on the secondary stepper? i have a new motor ordered and just don't feel the secondary is opening far enough.
Call your dealer and he will be able to find out for you. You can go to CentralBoiler.com
Click on Support
Put in your serial number
Type in your question and you should get a response asap.
Thanks for watching our channel. Kevin
Same question here. My primary opens up but I haven’t seen the secondary move. It takes 12 hrs to get to 185 degrees that seems crazy.
@@CWBKCI would think you have air flow problems, clean fire box ash so they are below the air hole and scrap down each side of the tube that blows air down into the reaction chamber. Check air flow in back by the chimney. Still a problem call CB.
Thanks for watching,Kevin
@@klwit1980 for sure. Stove is only 3 months old and I clean it every week very thoroughly. With that said what’s your preferred FireStar settings?? I think these settings have some effect on burn quality.
I have not burned the new edges I owned the first generation it was the 2300
To answer your question you can adjust like more air , more of a differential on your temperature water temperature. It depends a lot on your heat load on which way to adjust. I’d get with your dealer or other owners in your area to see what they are doing.
I’m thinking of doing a video on some of them questions.
Thanks for watching our videos. Kevin
Would you put a cap on your stack?? I know there not supplied but seems like you would. Great video. I’m Starting my 760 shortly for the first time, using for radiant floor heat source.
I did to keep rain out
I’ve had a 560 for 4 seasons now and I love it. Sadly, I wouldn’t recommend buying one though, unless you are very confident in your dealers competence and availability. In rural BC, Canada we have one dealer for a province bigger than several European countries combined. There is no one to contact if you ever do experience trouble and you can’t order parts directly. Great boiler, but a terrible business model. IMHO.
Thanks for the comment and watching, I agree some dealers just want to sell and not service. I built my business on treat people how you want to be treated. Maybe CB needs another dealer in that area to take care of the people, or call the office and voice your concerns. Wish I could help.
Thanks again stay warm in the great north. Kevin
hi there like to get one nice unit john
How big of boiler needed for a 1200 square foot mobile home
Cl 4030 or edge 360HDX. But ask your local dealer. Thanks for watching. Kevin
I'm just wondering what is the best differential setting between the high and low water temperature?
I always just left mine at to 10 degree difference. Always to do just fine.
Thanks for watching, Kevin
I heard that the hi / low temperature settings are set at 10 degrees I would like to set my boiler at 8 degrees
How many square feet does the 760 heat?
Eric great question, the best way to answer is how much propane,natural gas or heating oil do you use in a per month time? Like January and February. Then look at CB furnace Calculator and it will show which furnace to get.
And furnace will heat what you want it’s how often you want to put wood in it. I like to load every 12 hours to see what’s going on and Monitor my wood use. To answer your question and this is my opinion 3,000-7,000 sq ft. But I’ll remind you it depends on how well insulated your home and if your heating another building is. Also what temperature are you going to keep them both. Lots of factors and you dealer in your area can answer.
Thanks for watching our channel.
Kevin
@@klwit1980 Thanks for the quick reply!! I’ll b heater 1800 square ft house, 1200 square foot garage and water heater with new 760. Hoping for 24 hour burns
You will get 24 hour burn time, just don’t fill it all the way, just put enough wood in for your 24 hours.
@@klwit1980 Roger that! Switching from classic 4436 to 760 going to be a big change but hoping it’s for the better!!
Not sure how you're evaluating the CB to be "at the top" of the EPA list. There are at least 3 other brands on the list in your link that are higher efficiency and lower emissions. We looked at CB for a new boiler but the requirement to have to send in water samples yearly on a strict timeframe, otherwise your warranty can be voided by CB, turned us off. We ended up going with an interior boiler made in Europe. It works great so far but we'll see how it works over a decade or two.
Hey Mark, look at the 8 hour burn time and at that time of video im sure they was. Thanks so much for your input. Kevin
I was a dealer for about 17 yrs
Just curious why you aren’t anymore
Divorce
@@klwit1980
Sad to hear that sir
Great units Kevin. The reality in 2022 is nobody can afford these units thanks to what Joe Biden and the Democrats have done to destroy the economy. I truly feel sad for the younger generation, just being able to acquire a house now days. People who would disagree with my statement just haven’t realized just how much damage has been inflicted; no one will escape what is coming. I’m a combat disabled veteran rated 100% permanent and total and I humbly submit the company’s really don’t care about what others have sacrificed, discounts are to promote the company to the public.
Thanks for your service to our country Tom, and I also believe the Biden administration needs to go. Thanks for your comment and watching our channel.
Kevin
@@klwit1980 , I really enjoyed watching your video and message Kevin. My condition is permanent and I am very bitter at what America has become and Corporation’s lack of integrity on truly helping veterans in my condition. I wish people could really see where the money goes and exactly how much of their money is actually spent on the disabled veteran. I was relieved when the truth came out on Black Lives Matter.
Thought we were taking about wood stoves
@@donaldandmarlenebednar4934 Pride always comes before the fall and boy is it falling.
@@donaldandmarlenebednar4934we can talk about whatever we want. Only commies don't like free speech
Can certainly see the cheapness in central boiler in the last number of years. Having owned one for eighteen years I can tell you that their warranty isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. Crow royal makes by far a more superior less complex furnace & actually warrants what they sell.
Hey Jeff, maybe I should do a video on Crown Royal furnaces.
Thanks for your comments
Kevin
Wow Jeff, I’m here trying to see if anyone else felt the same and damn it here you are.
I have an E-1450 I installed 9 years ago that sprung a leak into the firebox on the 27th of December. Dealer said he’s not going to waste time with a warranty claim cause I’m not going to get any anyway. I’ve been trying to get ahold of central boiler ever since with no luck and no response to my messages.
I have OCD and take care of it like it’s my first born. I really believed when they told me it had a 25 year warranty we were going to be trouble free for at least 20 years aside for a few minor repairs.
I was extremely happy with it and now I’m getting really bitter! $12 grand Canadian 9 years ago and 20 grand to replace it now.
They’re outta their minds thinking they have the slightest chance of ever selling me another one if they can’t come good on the warranty for this one.
@@draganarc0131 yes I hear ya. I was the same way. Followed recommended cleaning etc & burned dry wood. Big huge sticker on the side of the unit advertising 25 year warranty. 😂🤣😂. Only to find out it’s the door that’s warranted. Deceitful for sure. I wish you luck. I went back to old school. Grandpa bear fisher in the basement. I burn half the volume of wood & the house is warmer then ever.
I have a 9 year old 1450 that has sprung a leak on the bend on the right upper side of the door opening a couple weeks ago. It has been maintained properly! The metal is wearing thin around the entire door opening. Very disappointed!
Greg judy!? Lol
I didn't know these burnt coal. Thought it was wood.
Wood only, if I said coal I misspoke but they do a nice job for heating.
Thanks for watching,Kevin
@klwit1980 you didn't say coal. You were saying fly ash. Where I'm from, fly ash is a waste product from burning coal. They use it in asphalt.
Some brands of these do use coal. Sorry for the confusion.