The three historical sources referenced do not seem to verify the existence of Jesus so much as to verify the existence and beliefs of Christians a century later.
For some such as yourself, there will never be enough proof, you are of your father and you love the world and all the pleasures that it offers you....
The historians who supposedly offered "corroborative evidence" lived centuries after he was supposed to have died. Their accounts relied on other people's accounts, who, in turn, had relied on still other people's accounts.
That is incorrect flavius joeshivus ( Jewish historian) lived in the time of the destruction of Solomon's temple by the Romans 70 AD some 40 yrs after Jesus death (look it up)
@@billytorney6336 He was living in Rome when he wrote "Antiquities of the Jews" in the year c94. As he was born four years after the death of Jesus this evidence would be considered hearsay in a court of law.
The Jewish philosopher and historian Philo Judaeus was recording the events of Jewish life in the areas of Egypt, Judea and Greece between 20 CE and 45 CE. He was in and around the Second Temple in Jerusalem. He knew Josephus and they wrote about each other and corresponded. He never mentions Jesus, his movement or Paul. The New Testament stories seem to include dramatic events, people coming out of tombs, the temple curtain ripping, earthquakes, miracles etc. However, it didn’t make the news. Why would rational people believe such incredible stories with zero evidence? It’s seems insulting to God to claim he wants us to believe things like this.
Re: "The reason so many skeptics reject Jesus existence is because they could find no body." Please name some skeptics who used that argument. I doubt you will find any.
In the bible are many historical facts. Archaeology did find many sites like written in the bible. The Hitties were first thought to be a made up by the writer, later they found the Hitti country. The European languages are developed from the Hitties language.
@KoaTheJoker OK. Forrest Gump included many historical figures who actually existed. Should we then conclude that he wrote Imagine for John Lennon? Simply including historical facts into a fictional narrative does not make the story true. Holding the Bible as self-evident is the equivalent of me saying Forrest Gump was real because Winston Groom wrote a book about him.
@@buckyhate7695 it's used by for historical information like locations. It's one of the best references from this time. They used a lot of metaphors in those days, it was usual. But try to do some research about it. Archaeologists don't watch Forest Gumb for historical information, that's not the same
Josephus, himself, was a Galilean, most of what he recorded in "War of the Jews" happened in Galilee, as it was a hotbed for insurrectionist activity during the 1st Century CE. He never made any note about the Jesus movement in "War of the Jews." The mentions about Christians were in his later work, "Antiquities," and scholars, both Christian and non-Christian seem to agree they were redactions added in by later Christian writers. To get to absolute "smoking gun" evidence of Jesus's historicity , there would need to be at minimum, one non-christian, eye-witness account of Jesus, preferably two. As far as anyone knows, and scholars have poured countless hours into this research, no such record(s) exist. That doesn't mean he didn't exist, but there is still no evidence outside canonical and non-canonical texts, written by Christians. And this brings up another point. If Christians really wanted to strengthen their argument about his historical existence, they would have to admit more non-canonical writings into the record. This would include some of those from the so-called Gnostic gospels. However, that would be problematic because it would mean conceding to stories and teachings that have been considered heretical for 2,000 years. It would mean the undoing of orthodox narratives. This, the orthodox-minded Christians and all of their offshoot brethren will not do.
To your point about non-canonical writings, orthodoxy, and the historical Jesus, here is my counter-argument: There is another way to view this. Chiefly, non-canonical writings don't necessarily need to be accepted as theologically orthodox to contain a grain of historical truth. I.e., the Christian can reject them as Scripture while conceding that their existence does strengthen the existence of the historical Jesus by establishing a relative chronology. For instance, a gnostic scribe penning the theologically twisted tale of a true-to-life figure not far removed from his own lifetime. That's how I look at it, at least.
The problem Christians can't seem to get their head around is these people they like to bring up as "Evidence" people like Josephus who was born a decade after Jesus died so never met him and wrote Antiquities in 93AD decades after the fact, Tacitus 116AD, Suetonius 120AD, Pliny the Younger 112AD, Lucian of Samosata 166AD, these are all centuries later that are basically centuries of hersay he said that she said that he said this thing happened therefore "Evidence", yet if you ask them would you be ok put on trial for murder and as evidence someone says a man said 3 centuries ago a man named Dave murdered someone your name is Dave therefore your guilty of murder as this is so called by your own standard "Evidence" they all say no, so why accept this nonsense as "Evidence".
Were there no talented artists of the time who could have drawn Jésus from life? Why wasnt this done? Roman historiens have no account that he ever was and not a shred of archealogical évidence. The entire region was a war zone during the time he allegedly lived. ❤ 6:09
@@tomsuiteriii9742 That would be hard to do. Example: The Infancy Gospel was ascribed to Thomas. It tells stories about Jesus's childhood that are literally impossible to prove or disprove, including the story of him killing animals with spiritual energy. These and other non-canonical stories beg the question of truthfulness, which eventually spread to to the canonicals. The Church has 2,000+ years of investment in the canon. They've literally fought battles over them, including bloodshed. Adding non-canonical stories to prove historicity changes orthodoxy irrevocably. I don't see the Church allowing this.
Jesus was a reader, teacher, and challenged the top renowned scholars of his days, yet he always wrote in the sand and then wiped it away, performed miracles and told the witnesses to not mention the miracle, Jesus had a mission, timeline, a beginning and a proclaimed ending, nothing could get in the way of Gods plan...We look for hard proof of his existence because we have "little faith", it's all about the faith...Jesus said to Thomas, "Because you have seen me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen, and have believed. God is a choice, you get to choose and it cost nothing.
Harry Potter was generous, caring and loving to his friends and taught us to stand up against evil. What's your point? The message being good does not prove whether Jesus was real. I can promise you that if Jesus let me put my hand in his crucifixion wounds like he did for Thomas, then I would accept he was real too.
It makes no sense. Why? Why would a "god" character care one single bit that you "believe" in it? I clearly see the motive of a human institution wanting divine authority in law and society but there is no motive for an actual divine timeless unchanging superego to care.
@@edwinwinn8876 The real problem is that it costs everything. To believe in Jesus often means to die to ourselves and many people have a lot to lose. They hold value to those things they'll lose but don't realise how detrimental they are and what they'll gain to let them go. It's why people need more and more proof, because they're terrified to let go of things and are scared it will be for nothing. Been there.
You know, given that he should have known he was a God, do you think it would have killed him to write a few thing down. He could have used magic to produce texts containing his instructions
@@DavidPowersTraining-jy6cg What does that mean? Silence? It's a free country Jack, you haven't got your theocracy just yet. With the exception of Florida, Texas, Arkansas, Tennessee and maybe Oklahoma.
@@DavidPowersTraining-jy6cg Does my blasphemy offend you? Actually, my original post was hardly offensive. It just raised a perfectly reasonable point. God, in the form of Jesus, should have written a few things down. .
@@stevenpeaketrainsandstuff3682did you ever consider that he may have and it was all sought out and destroyed, or hidden? Given the persecution and murder of his followers after his death and resurrection, it stands to reason that there’s a strong possibility that any evidence of his existence would’ve been suppressed or destroyed. The Dead Sea scrolls were found after 2,000 years hidden in clay jars in a cave, and in it were found gospels not found in the Bible. There may actually be actual writings of his still buried or hidden away and no one has found it yet. Or the Vatican may have something in its hermetic vaults. Just because you don’t have proof or consensus about something, doesn’t mean it isn’t true or doesn’t exist.
@buckyhate7695 Also, to be fair, even if Jesus' history was recorded, probably decades after his death, it was because someone who had lived during his time must have spoken it.
The Roman Catholic Church had stated that, Christianity was “made up!”-the Roman Empire was splitting up, so, the Emperor came up with this “story” to save the empire-hence, the “Holy Roman Empire” was born
@@donnamatsyk1032 I’m afraid so. It would be incredible evidence if it weren’t a work of fiction, rejected almost universally by academic and religious scholars. These supposed letters were first “discovered” in London in 1928 and the author appears to have been a journalist by the name of W.P. Crozier.
You can't use the bible to "prove" the bible. There is zero evidence outside of the gospels for the existence of even a so-called historic Jesus. Josephus is a later interpolation.
You said " There is zero evidence outside of the gospels for the existence of even a so-called historic Jesus." You sure about that? Jesus Christ was born during the reign of the first official Roman emperor, Augustus. He was crucified under the reign of the second emperor, Tiberius. It was Pilate that put Jesus on the cross. I assume you accept that these people really existed (the month of august is named after Augustus). King Agbar 5 wrote a letter to Tiberius. Here is part of what was written, "Abgar, king of Armenia, to my Lord Tiberius, emperor of the Romans, greeting:- I know that nothing is unknown to your Majesty, but, as your friend, I would make you better acquainted with the facts by writing. The Jews who dwell in the cantons of Palestine have crucified Jesus: Jesus without sin, Jesus after so many acts of kindness, so many wonders and miracles wrought for their good, even to the raising of the dead. Be assured that these are not the effects of the power of a simple mortal, but of God. During the time that they were crucifying Him, the sun was darkened, the earth was moved, shaken; Jesus Himself, three days afterwards, rose from the dead and appeared to many. " Tiberius wrote back, "Tiberius, emperor of the Romans, to Abgar, king of the Armenians, greeting:- Your kind letter has been read to me, and I wish that thanks should be given to you from me. Though we had already heard several persons relate these facts, Pilate has officially informed us of the miracles of Jesus. He has certified to us that after His resurrection from the dead He was acknowledged by many to be God. Therefore I myself also wished to do what you propose; but, as it is the custom of the Romans not to admit a god merely by the command of the sovereign, but only when the admission has been discussed and examined in full senate, I proposed the affair to the senate, and they rejected it with contempt, doubtless because it had not been considered by them first. " OK, several things here. If you claim Jesus never existed, this would mean that three independent people were writing to one another about a "fictional" character, and the "fictional character" was considered important enough to be discussed by the senate. Does that sound logical to you? For your theory to work, and Jesus not to have existed, this would mean that King Agbar didn't exist, his letter doesn't exist, Pilate never existed, his letter to Tiberius never existed, and Tiberius never existed, and his reply never existed. Now, your only way around this is to say that the letters are fake (convenient, everytime people write an account of Jesus, it's fake - LOL). But that really doesn't make any sense. Further more, the Romans had different gods, all based around sun worship. It was the Hebrews who said not to worship the sun but the creator of the sun - God Almighty - and He would come to earth in human form. Jesus (who in your world didn't exist), came to earth, and started spreading the word - not to worship the sun, but the CREATOR of the sun - God Almighty - and He was He. So powerful were His teachings that people started to spread the word. After His death, the word continued to be spread. The Romans started to lose control, so they nicknamed the followers of Christ as "Christian." They threw them to lions, put them on crosses to scare people away from the teachings of Christ. But to no avail. They therefore, under Constantine, accepted the teachings of Christ, mixed them up with their own sun worship, and set up the Roman Catholic Church, abandoning - at least on the outside - their multitude of gods to "myth." One being forced the Romans to change their beliefs. That being was Jesus Christ. He existed. So much so that Islam accepts He did, Judaism, Christianity, most of Hinduism ... all earth's major religions accept this. It's only in recent times that people question this, and that's because of the nonsense of a religion they have adopted - evolution. Sad.
Jesus may have been a historical figure. But as a God, he is not. If he is an undying God, he would have given convincing evidence to all skeptics and researchers by now that he existed then and exists now.
Prove your grand father existed, can you do that? How many dead people does Jesus have to resurrect, how much public torture does he have endure, how long does he have to hang nailed on a cross? Do you know one man now or in the past who could have done that? your denial goes much deeper than you are willing to admit, Oh the pleasure's of a sin-filled life, to much love of this Rome like world to give up.
@@edwinwinn8876 Re: "Prove your grand father existed, can you do that?" A lot of people have the evidence of their grandparents' DNA. Re: "How many dead people does Jesus have to resurrect . . . ?" One verifiable account would do for me.
Do you have any physical evidence for the physical claim there was a real physical Jesus? If not what then should we think of the far greater claim of his divinity?
It's a very difficult question, but even if this 'jesus' did not actually exist and his life and teaching is a composite and recycling of earlier myth and religion,we must accept that in essence there is something significant and profound therein.
Everything he said can be found in previous religions and philosophies. His message of peace and brotherhood is a product of the modern Enlightenment. Christianity historically has been more concerned with the responsibility of the individual to prepare for the afterlife than for taking care of his fellows. Responsibility for one's fellows is an ethos built into all tribal societies. His message of peace has never prevented Christian nations from going to war with each other. The history of Europe, as with other regions of the world, is a history of armed conflict. His messages of love, such as "love conquereth all", have been used to send abused women back to their husbands to die in domestic violence. Christianity provides the same value to political establishments as is provided by other universalist religions: it provides the ideological glue that can foster a false sense of community where none actually exists, masking divisions of ethnicity, class, gender, etc. , which then fester beneath the surface.
@@parrhasius So was I. The "love conquereth all" bs has been responsible for the deaths of uncountable numbers of people (let's fact it, mostly women) at the hands of domestic abusers. Some "spiritual advisors" in fundamentalist sects still send wives back to their abusers to "love them more so they won't beat you." Holy masochism =spiritual death, not life everlasting.
@@pirbird14there you go just like everybody else looking at man's mistakes man's evil man's war man's problems an attributing all those horrible characteristics to the god that created this world or Jesus Jesus never did any of those things he only gave people love and truth but because of the crap that we humans do he is still being crucified for all the time and Jesus did exist there is plenty of evidence to prove that just go out there and find it you know they're actually is a temple in Jerusalem that is still destroyed to the ground Mark 13:1 Jesus's disciples on marveling at the temple how beautiful the ornate stones are make this Temple up in Jesus turns them and says this verily I say to you that one day soon now one of these stones will be on top of the other they will be destroyed to the ground broken up destroyed and torn to sundier in 70 AD that exact thing took place and you can go over there and see that site where those stones are still destroyed still on the ground there is your proof that Jesus existed in the Bible is real right there
First of all, by God, this incident happened to me. I don't know why or the reason. It should be said. This is my duty to say it and others have the right to know it. I am from Qatar First what happened was a real vision of a image of a man on the ceiling of my room. He appeared in April 2016. His face was somewhat long, his features were beautiful to the point indescribable. His beard was light, his hair fell over his shoulders, his eyes were very bright and sharp, and his features were mostly from the northern Middle East . The picture was very clear, which amazed me. I was asleep and suddenly I woke up to witness the event. At first, I thought that he resembled my friend in his features to a very small degree, but inspiration came to me quickly. He was the Messiah. It took a time that I cannot estimate, and I did not know what happened after that or when I went back to sleep. Since then, I have started writing about this topic, or rather about the miracle, in many places.use google to translate Arabic to English,
For me the real question is “who was he” as the evidence for his historical existence is there. It’s clear he existed but who was he? Was he just a normal Jewish man if that time? Was he a Rabbi? Was he a Prophet? Or was he truly the Son of God? It is for each individual to answer that question one which as a skeptic, I spent 7 years on researching Non Christian writings, Archeology, Christian writing tings and all the other key people surrounding Jesus. Their humanity, behaviour and actions. There is no doubt at all in my mind who he was/is. This video presents a high level synopsis of what’s out there to be read and reviewed, if you have the time, do it.
We have zero documents written by Jesus' character. There are no words in any version of a Hebrew Torah which translates into the English word "God". There are no characters in any version of any religion who exhibit all-knowing and infallible capabilities.
@@chriskitchen4772 Provide evidence that I am mistaken. I've been studying human behavior, politics, religion and social cultures for over five decades. Humanity created their gods to imitate the infinite possible range of pleasurable and horrific experiences which we encounter throughout our lives.
@@KGP221okay then if it was all just created by man answer me this question how come the Bible doesn't give anybody and out to just sin as much as they want
@@benjaminvalenti1242 Humanity’s two base yet complete opposite behaviors are well-intentioned and nefarious. Most people are not good "or" evil, they have the propensity for both depending upon circumstances they encounter. For instance, I don't believe in God and am inclined to treat people with empathy and dignity, while Reverend Jim Jones believed in God and brought death to many. Bibles are not a guide to morality. Well-intentioned people who also believe in a God fail to reason that if their God created everything, then evil (nefarious behavior) is part of that everything. Isaiah 45:7 states that explicitly. They also don't recognize that the stories of Adam's and Eve's eviction, Noah's flood, the crucifixion /resurrection, and Revelation's new heaven and earth reveal a God who after supposedly creating humanity with both good and evil intentions was displeased with the evil half of that equation and attempted repeatedly to destroy it, but has yet to succeed. Well-intentioned Christian's might want to weigh their beliefs of a world with only good people against their God's failures to accomplish that goal. Either he is a complete failure, or he simply doesn't exist. Nature brought everything into existence and nature consumes everything back into itself, ad infinitum.
@@benjaminvalenti1242 Authors of Bibles use the words forgiveness and remission of sins. These Two words mean absolution, amnesty, exemption, and excuse. That is the back door (an out) which you are asking about. Biblical authors made a big deal about sin and then just as easily dismissed it? Now it's your turn to answer a question. Did the God you believe in create sin?
There is no evidence. Besides that, zero evidence that he could have been divine, or that there is a god at all.... Not only is the title a dumb question... but one thing is certain.. Even if Jesus did exist, he didn't look anything like the person pictured on the TH-cam title page. LOL
He wouldn't recognise himself as the person they invented either. As a Jew, he would consider the fact he was a part of a contrived Trinity God as nothing short of delusional blasphemy.
Apologists cannot refute the fact that Jesus, his life, teachings and miracles, were all recorded only in the anonymously written, in educated Greek, four gospels, several decades after the events. No other historical records corroborated any of the events mentioned in the gospels, not even Jesus.
No different to using the bible that was built centuries later by the Catholic church, all Christian writings are hundreds of years after Jesus, as there are no 1st century manuscripts so the people who say this book and that book was writen within 20 years of Jesus are lying as you can't date a manuscript that doesn't exist. So all writings whether Qu'ran or Bible are from hundreds of years after the time of Jesus, the earliest manuscripts we have are 3rd century, Papyrus 46 has been paleographically dated between 175 and 225, so early 3rd century CE so over 200 years after the fact.
No different to using the bible that was built centuries later by the Catholic church, all Christian writings are hundreds of years after Jesus, as there are no 1st century manuscripts so the people who say this book and that book was writen within 20 years of Jesus are lying as you can't date a manuscript that doesn't exist. So all writings whether Qu'ran or Bible are from hundreds of years after the time of Jesus, the earliest manuscripts we have are 3rd century, Papyrus 46 has been paleographically dated between 175 and 225, so early 3rd century CE so over 200 years after the fact.
IfJesus was so magical and his coming was so special that God created a supernova, timed just right across light-years of space, for the light to reach earth and produce the Star of Bethlehem, to announce his arrival, then why was he not able to finish his job, the first time, and not need to return again after more than 2000 years? Many people claim that Jesus is saving them right now, from addiction, etc. If Jesus already has a magic presence in the world, why should he even need a Second Coming? Isn't the Second Coming a bit behind schedule? Wasn't Jesus supposed to be here, by now?
He is coming when ever he want and as a believer and strong faith in religion and we will keep practicing and honoring his second coming and is something we will passed down to our children and you wouldnt understand because u are an unbeliever and an atheist
Does the fact his crucifixion is so momentous in history time is counted as 'before Christ' and 'after Christ'?! Yes, He existed. More than enough evidence. And then Christianity swept the world. Read the Bible. Every answer to every question is there. Jesus invites us to follow His Path be a loving person. To purify ourselves of the dark aspects of our nature and instead be loving and kind, helpful and giving. Die to self. We feed the poor, heal the sick, tend to the homeless. We are being painted so black. I think very few of our young adults will raise their children in the Light.
Re: "Who is doubting the existence of Jesus Christ ?" It depends on what you mean by "Jesus Christ." If you mean the Son of God, then everyone who is not a Christian doubts his existence. Personally, I believe that some Jew with reformist ideas got crucified, but I doubt that his name was actually Jesus (not a Jewish name), that anyone called the guy "Christ" while he was alive (not a Hebrew word), or that he was more deserving to be called "the Son of God" than anybody else.
Reading all the comments leaves me to wonder if everyone missed a lot of the biggest points. Faith. Kindness. Forgiveness. Gratitude and love and care for the least among us. Yeshua
@barronmaxxx2991 None of these things are really relevant to the question being asked. I expected there to be some evidence of Jesus's existence even if it couldn't be established that he was divine. The fact that we only have one fragment of tablet to confirm the existence of Pontius Pilate hints at how difficult it is to find evidence of anyone not an emperor or great general. Still, we do know how easy it is, and how often it happens, that humans exaggerate a real person, or elevate a mythical person to that of an almost historical person. Two examples were given in the video and others include Robin Hood, King Arthur etc. These are probably exaggerated composites with a nugget of truth lost to history. I feel certain that Jesus is such a character. The fact that none of the Gospels were written until many decades later and none are thought to be actual eye witnesses, lends credence to this theory. Perhaps we will never know, but one thing is for sure, if Jesus was the son of god and was put on earth as his messenger, the whole thing failed spectacularly. Yes, I know Christianity is still around, but it is declining as we become less superstitious. Surely god cannot expect people to have faith with nothing to have faith in?
Re: ' Faith. Kindness. Forgiveness. Gratitude and love and care for the least among us." People believed in all of these virtues before the gospels were written.
I would think God, Jesus, or anyone like Moses has a priority in not leaving any evidence which goes along with the Spiritual emphasis that Jesus made a serious effort in conveying. This is God's prime plan, to bring us together in Spirit, to worship in Spirit, even stating that this is Hidden from the proud and arrogant. That is a Major message in itself, especially to those who have been enlightened by the Holy Spirit, if you are one of those you are Rare and wonderfully eternal!
Re: ". . . no amount of evidence will convince an unbeliever." You've got it backwards. Evidence, rather than faith, is precisely what "unbelievers" do believe.
If you doesn't believe His existence, there'll be millions of reasons to question His existence. But, If you believe in Him, you have only one reason, i,e, the truth.
Yet there is no evidence to support the claim that this story occurred let alone anything close to what you can remotely claim as ‘truth’. What is required is facts and evidence. Nothing presented in this video remotely comes close to this required classification of findings being facts and evidence. All that is presented are remote unfounded claims.
@@eatfrenchtoast as I mentioned: What is required is facts and evidence for these unfounded claims. Are you able to provide the required facts and evidence for these claims? Be honest. Come forward and present what is required.
PhD Scholars that believe the Gospel Jesus never existed; Thomas L. Brodie, (His 2012 book Beyond the Quest for the Historical Jesus, Thomas L. Thompson, Robert M Price, Bruno Bauer, Arthur Drews, George Albert Wells, (1975 book, Did Jesus Exist?, Earl Doherty, John M. Allegro, Alvar Ellegård, Archibald Robertson, Albert Schweitzer, On the Historicity of Jesus: by Richard Carrier, Raphael Lataster, Gerd Lüdemann, his book Paul, the founder of Christianity, Philip R. Davies, R. Joseph Hoffmann, Dan Barker, his book From Preacher to Atheist, John E. Remsburg, his book The Christ: A Critical Review and Analysis of the Evidence of His Existence, H.H. Mangasarian, his book, "The Truth about Jesus, is he a Myth? among many others.
You can tell how the text is worded in the description that this is mere apologetics. No need to even watch it. If one is really interested in this subject there are impartial books to be read.
The evidence for his 'historicity' is incredibly weak and the comment section offers many reasons why that is. We can understand why the Jesus story is so popular, however... The New Testament Jesus story was created to FIX the Old Testament and its horrible stories - which we know are myth now, but when this was all put together, the 'followers' didn't know that. Myth then was more like science to us today to the masses. It was how they looked at the world The creators of the Jesus story did a good job of tying some of his 'fulfilled prophecies' of the Old Testament - thus making it seem viable. They thought that through and its obvious to someone outside the bubble. The Bible - which is a library of books spanning around 1500 to 2000 years, was assembled in around 325 AD which really started the crusade of 'organized Institutional Christianity'. The message of Christianity is a very strong one. We are all doomed because of original sin from the original couple created by God, we can't fix ourselves and therefore we are doomed. Given there is nothing we can actually do about it, God did a blood sacrifice (what he was loves as demonstrated in the OT) of his own son to take on and forgive us of our sins. All we have to do is believe the story, and we have a chance of eternal life of bliss, vs internal damnation. I mean... if you are doing to have a religion, it is a pretty good message, right? It is selling HOPE and weaves a good yarn that includes popular mythological motifs that people really go for, especially when all of this was put together. Islam saw the power of the Christian story, so they borrowed it and acknowledged Jesus and created their own version of 'statutes' to start that religion. When you step back, it is all very clear
In his book on the Historical Jesus ,Albert Schweitzer strongly suggested that the "Gospel Jesus" never had any existence. However ,it opens the door to many possibilities as to what Jesus was ,some of which are touched on in this blog.
*12 men who followed him* No evidence outside the bible they existed. *and gave up their lives to him and died for him* No evidence this happened either.
If Jesus had not risen, why would the apostles who were cowering in the upper room out of fear become brave enough to tell the people about Christ and make themselves subject to hideous deaths,if they had not been with him after he rose..? Also the SHROUD is scientifically being authenticated.
The shroud unfortunately has NOT been scientifically authenticated. The stories of apostles are also just stories without any evidence. No different from the stories about Mt. Olympus.
The apostles were conned into believing what he said. Just like devotees of a former president. They go around and hang out with poor people, promising them really neat stuff like eternal life or winning bigly in return for total dedication to the cause.
Yes, and they would die horrible deaths for it. I don't think so. Your theory is nonsense. You might want to look into Biblical prophecy regarding the nation of the Jews and the history of that nation. There is no way it could come to be unless there was a God. The odds are more than against it.🙂@@stevenpeaketrainsandstuff3682
Or 300 thousand Christian who willfully died in the Roman Coliseum said it well enough, all they had to do to save their own life was to say, Jesus wasn't real. Boom!
While I have no reason to believe in the existence of any supernatural or supranatural force controlling human affairs, I nevertheless find it to be a denial of reason to state, categorically and unequivocally, that Jesus definitely did not exist. To me, this is as illogical as any "He was divine, and of course he existed, because the Bible says so" assertion.
That's funny, just think how men have normalized Abortion again, that's one thing Satan loves, human sacrifice, Sodomy, and human mutilations, and it's all been normalized in America and around the world once again....But no spiritual influence was involved.
The Muslim perspective on the crucifixion is interesting. They do not accept it, questioning how God would allow such an event. So alternatively they believe that God made Judas appear like Jesus, and it was him the Romans crucified, not Jesus. They also say Jesus will return one day and restore order on Earth
The Bible was written for the account of Jesus spoke of prophecies that have happened and are going to continue to happen he is our blessed.hope How do you explain Born again Christians. Jesus also said they would be false prophets at the end times they will come in my name they will say Jesus did not. existe If Jesus did not exist in the entire Bible did not.exist How would Jesus have known about these prophecies that have happened thousands of years before they would happen if he was not God . How can a regular man know these things in the future if he was not God. Jesús coming back
Jesus said he'd be back with his kingdom before the men around him were dead. Matthew 16:28. He didn't. I wouldn't be holding my breath for another curtain call.
The gospel of John is an outlier, written about 110CE. Author unknown. There are major inconsistencies with the synoptic gospels, which is not unusual when you consider the Nativity and Crucifixion narratives have little consistency with each other in any gospel.
God revealed to us in human form and his name Jesus, If you accept Jesus you will have eternal life. Please note there is another life after our death and Jesus is the only way to Heaven. Think and repent today
What about the dead sea scrolls? they were written many years before Jesus came to earth. They have never found his body. If he didn't exist, then why did Jesus fufill hundreds of prophecy from the Old Testament written over 1000's of years before? Do you realize how could one man fufill all those predictions? could you calculate the percentage of Jesus fufilling one or more of those Old Testament prophecies? It's mindboggling! But He did!!!
The only Jesus I can't say anything bad about. The lives of other prophets are well known to everyone, and none of the human beings can come close to Jesus
To me it means the universe and all matter (including us) is made up of energy that moves in cycles. We are a part of that. "To understand the secrets of the Universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration." Nicola Tesla. Since energy is based in mixing cycles and waves, it will maintain organization naturally.
@@danielpaulson8838 I am not a very religious or uneducated person I repeat not religious but I've noticed that certain people can transfer extremely bad energy and cause harm to other people by staring and thinking of them in a jealous way. I've concluded and seen it with my own eyes. How is that in any way possible if there's no physical altercation whatsoever?
Flavius Josephus, the most important Jewish historian of all time, affirms Jesus existed in his writings. Antiquities of the Jews 18.3.3 In terms of archaeology, it's impossible to refute that Rome occupied the land of Israel (John 11:48). Their fingerprints are all over the land. So we know those parts of the New Testament are true. Town of Caesarea, Israel (Acts 10:1). Named after Caesar Augustus (Luke 2:1). Town of Caesarea-Philippi, Israel (Matthew 16:13). Named after Caesar and Philip (Matthew 14:3). Town of Tiberias, Israel (John 6:23). Named after the Emperior Tiberius (Luke 3:1). Herodium (south of Jerusalem). Named after King Herod (Matthew 2:1). The Pontus Pilate Stone (Luke 3:1) - th-cam.com/video/Msu6HaJM6HY/w-d-xo.html The Masada Fortress - th-cam.com/video/xwGJYIWhZDM/w-d-xo.html Arch of Titus (Located in Italy)
Thank you I couldn't remember the historians name. Yeshua's crucifixion was also spoken of by Roman authors. Long before the counsel of Nicia. There is more evidence of him. Than a lot of "historically factual" people. From the same time period
@@danielbryant1539Jesus peace be upon him is a prophet,messenger and the messiah,he never said to worship him,he use to pray and fast,he use to eat and drink,he dont eat pork,he dont drink alcohol,he is pious and he fear GOD peace be upon him
The passage you're referring to regarding Josephus on Jesus is actually a later Christian interpolation into the text. Evan if it was genuine all Josephus is doing is repeating a story that he has been told as he gives no source as to his claims regarding Jesus.
@@shauntaylor7332 Highly unlikely that Flavius Josephus would provide a false account of Jesus while also providing record of many of the other New Testament characters in book 18 of Antiquities of the Jews. Pharisees - Antiquities of the Jews 18.1.3 / Matthew 3:7 Sadducees - Antiquities of the Jews 18.1.4 / Matthew 3:7 Judas the Galilean - Antiquities of the Jews 18.1.6 / Acts 5:37 The Samaritans - Antiquities of the Jews 18.2.2 / John 4:22 Pontus Pilate Antiquities of the Jews 18.3.1 / Luke 3:1 King Herod - Antiquities of the Jews 18.4.3 / Matthew 14:6 Caiaphas and Ananus - Antiquities of the Jews 18.4.3 / Luke 3:2 John The Baptist - Antiquities of the Jews 18.5.2 / Matthew 3:1 We also know a New Covenant was prophesied to be given (Jeremiah 31:31-34). This New Covenant would have been given at some point after Judah returned from the Babylonian Exile (Jeremiah 50:1-5). The New Covenant would have also provided atonement for the nation's sins (Ezekiel 16:59-63) after the Old Covenant was broken (Hosea 8:1, Jeremiah 11:10, Deuteronomy 31:16, 1 Kings 19:10).
The three Gospels are three variants of a single template. It emerges all throughout history. Jesus is a Buddha or a Lao Tzu, Arjuna, Jason, Heracles, et al. here is a recent example. See the conceptual template? That is what one needs to go after. It frames every myth and religion. There is Just one Truth. And many ways outward looking that lead to disaster. Christianity is the biggest broadest outward looking path. Jesus was 'called' as being the only son of God, had 'supernatural powers,' traveled with 'handpicked disciples,' and instructs to seek the 'Kingdom of Heaven Within.' Arthur was 'called' as the only one who could get Excalibur, had Merlin for 'supernatural powers,' traveled with ‘handpicked, Knights,' and seeks 'The Holy Grail.' There are hundreds of these to those who look. Jesus is a carrier of the teaching. It is the teaching that has value. Not the source.
@@fredhall5038 The source is the wrapping paper and it contains the message for the many called so you are correct. But further, the template is framing the story sequence on life stages to interact with for the few chosen. They require interpretation. Fable. True, false or carrier of a teaching? Same thing. Theists believe the supernatural and atheists deny it. Seekers thank them for bringing the interactive template here from antiquity.
Well that "source" was beaten, spat upon, mocked, tortured, and crucified for me. So that my sin debt might be cancelled before God. I think the "source" was the most important.🙃
Likely existed but due to rape of Mary by Roman soldier hence why he preached forgiveness, compassion etc...He was Pshyscopath likely due to his rapist dad.
Yahweh started as a volcano 🌋 god before joining the Canaanite pantheon. He continued to transform. Why are you limiting his ability to transform into Jesus? Do you speak for him?
@@jacovawernett3077iam a muslim,shlama illukh,shlama illakh,shalom lak,i wish you a really nice day,peace be upon the wonderfull prophet Jesus,he is the messiah,he is a messenger of GOD,like Moses peace be upon him,Abraham peace be upon him,Mohamad peace be upon him,Noah peace be upon him,David peace be upon him,peace be upon all the prophets and messengers
@@RedaReda-vl9ff Thank you brother. You too are a Messenger of God. If God has not told you that from above He has told you in your heart and soul. God spoke 50 sentences to me from above. 11.17.2015 Eve Beach Waikiki, early evening. I sat under the stars alone. The lat 2 sentences of 11 that God spoke to me from above that night were, Make Israel one. You are anchor. To make Israel one means to bring peace and reconciliation between Jew, Christian, Muslim:cousins by Abraham. I have never been able to hang onto hate. I see God's light in everyone. I do get frustrated sometimes because we have such a rare beautiful world and yet people want to fight and greed runs rampant in many. The Prophet Muhammed dealt with a lot of difficulties. And yet people still fight over Isaac and Ismail. On this day I want to say that you have filled my eyes with tears of joy and gratitude. To you and all your family and friends I thank you with all my heart and soul. Big hearts beat true and honest. Shukrun.
He might have looked a tad Arafatish given the region he was born. But then again, there is some dispute over parentage with Jesus. He might have looked a little bit European, cause God is white, old, and has a long beard. Or so the paintings of him suggest. But if someone other than God and Joseph is the father, I'm leaning toward him looking like a younger Arafat.
What color were they supposed to be, if they were black would it be more accurate for you? How about brown, or tan....all brown eyes be better? What did Jesus look like? My goodness the KKK is back in power.
There's more evidence for the existence of Jesus than for Socrates and Plato yet theres no one questioning the existance of those two. The truth is that the name of Jesus arouses a lot of discomfort and people would rather he didnt exist so they can continue living as they are living - as their own god, by their own autonomy and wisdom and without feeling "guilty". Speaking from experience. I was so relieved when I watched documentaries against his existance. But the Lord had other plans for me. Thank goodness.
@@DavidPowersTraining-jy6cg It's what came after the crucifixion that's in doubt. No witnesses to him walking out of the cave. Only a few people witnessed his accension. He might have wanted a bigger audience for this event. At least get a scribe to record what happened live.
It is fascinating how they have never found Jesus or anyone person that existed in the bible , And it is millions of people in the bible , I have been researching for a long time and so for i keep finding that the bible is just a biblical story.
Tell us how they could find Jesus, he was resurrected, no bones left to find...So have you ever been to Israel? BC the do know where many of them are berried....
Hi u can dwell into this topic and put doubt in the mind of people to me he the Son exits iam the livkng proof and dont compare the islam Quran the the Son of God
9:58 It is elusive because He was raised from the dead and is now seated in Heaven. Jesus went back to Heaven with His body intact. The only thing made by man in Heaven are the scars on Jesus's hands and body.
@@stevenpeaketrainsandstuff3682 correction HE got me real good. Believe it or not, someone's got you. There's an empty throne in every man.. indecision is still a decision and that seat WILL be filled.
@@ernestschultz5065 you probably feel very intelligent right now yet here's a surprise: 1 I'm a medical doctor 2. I'm happily married 3. I make serious money So even by these meagre standards I still most likely out rank you, yet you have the guts to spit on my faith
@@TheDYNAMITE001 research truly and you'll find out something ...in which no Christian apologetic will tell you. Once you are in the rabbit's hole you'll see how deep it is and impossible to get out because the more you research you' ll find so many things. Read Bart D Erhman research books. Watch myth vision potcast. Watch why the Jews don't believe in Jesus as the Messiah by Rabbi Tovia Singer or buy his booklets 'let's get Biblical".
Yet another "skeptics" clown show casting doubt on the dumbest question of all time. Even atheist Bart Ehrman knows Jesus existed, he just doesn't think Jesus is the Son of God.
😮😮The witness of history, geography, the eye-witness of the various writers, extra biblical writings, even the opposition by the Koran, all these combined give positive witness to the person of Jesus. Whether you choose to ignore the evidence offered or not, that is entirely up to the person. If you treat the examination of the various evidences as you would a criminal trial then perhaps the Scriptures become more reliable. But after studying the texts through the lens I offered examine the rest of the texts and see if they describe the human condition, and ask if they are accurate how does this apply to us. Are we sinners in need of a Savior? Is Jesus that being? Is the message of Scripture good news, is it consistent? And after all this research, should you still doubt the person of Jesus and his message, then add lots of prayer. God bless.
The number of years after a fact doesn’t negate the evidence. There is no expiry date to history. It is about 160-odd years since the American Civil War but no one says that the passage of time means Abe Lincoln didn’t exist or that the war didn’t happen. It is remarkable that over 5000 manuscripts, and parts of documents still exist. Equally interesting is that the Bible itself is an examination of God over thousands of years by over 40 different writers, many who didn’t know each other. The consistency of their witness defies the argument that ‘age’ has diluted the message. Blessings to you and yours.
The three historical sources referenced do not seem to verify the existence of Jesus so much as to verify the existence and beliefs of Christians a century later.
Exactly!
The bible was assembled about 325 AD
Yes true, proving that Harry Potter fans exist does not prove that Harry Potter is a real person!
@@kennyearthling7965 Harry Potter is a 54 YO writer.
For some such as yourself, there will never be enough proof, you are of your father and you love the world and all the pleasures that it offers you....
The historians who supposedly offered "corroborative evidence" lived centuries after he was supposed to have died. Their accounts relied on other people's accounts, who, in turn, had relied on still other people's accounts.
People need something to believe in.
That is incorrect flavius joeshivus ( Jewish historian) lived in the time of the destruction of Solomon's temple by the Romans 70 AD some 40 yrs after Jesus death (look it up)
@@billytorney6336 He was living in Rome when he wrote "Antiquities of the Jews" in the year c94. As he was born four years after the death of Jesus this evidence would be considered hearsay in a court of law.
The Jewish philosopher and historian Philo Judaeus was recording the events of Jewish life in the areas of Egypt, Judea and Greece between 20 CE and 45 CE. He was in and around the Second Temple in Jerusalem. He knew Josephus and they wrote about each other and corresponded. He never mentions Jesus, his movement or Paul. The New Testament stories seem to include dramatic events, people coming out of tombs, the temple curtain ripping, earthquakes, miracles etc. However, it didn’t make the news. Why would rational people believe such incredible stories with zero evidence? It’s seems insulting to God to claim he wants us to believe things like this.
@billytorney6336 Yeah, and the entries about Jesus have been found to be added by an unknown author at a later date.
The reason so many skeptics reject Jesus existence is because they could find no body.They never will because he rose.
Re: "The reason so many skeptics reject Jesus existence is because they could find no body." Please name some skeptics who used that argument. I doubt you will find any.
What about his photo or painting?
Literally no skeptic uses “there was no body”.
Using the Bible as "evidence " is the equivalent of saying, "Because I said so."
In the bible are many historical facts. Archaeology did find many sites like written in the bible. The Hitties were first thought to be a made up by the writer, later they found the Hitti country. The European languages are developed from the Hitties language.
No that's not true . You are holding assumptions about the Bible that are incorrect .
@KoaTheJoker OK. Forrest Gump included many historical figures who actually existed. Should we then conclude that he wrote Imagine for John Lennon?
Simply including historical facts into a fictional narrative does not make the story true. Holding the Bible as self-evident is the equivalent of me saying Forrest Gump was real because Winston Groom wrote a book about him.
@@gts3004 And which assumptions are those?
@@buckyhate7695 it's used by for historical information like locations. It's one of the best references from this time. They used a lot of metaphors in those days, it was usual. But try to do some research about it. Archaeologists don't watch Forest Gumb for historical information, that's not the same
Josephus, himself, was a Galilean, most of what he recorded in "War of the Jews" happened in Galilee, as it was a hotbed for insurrectionist activity during the 1st Century CE. He never made any note about the Jesus movement in "War of the Jews." The mentions about Christians were in his later work, "Antiquities," and scholars, both Christian and non-Christian seem to agree they were redactions added in by later Christian writers.
To get to absolute "smoking gun" evidence of Jesus's historicity , there would need to be at minimum, one non-christian, eye-witness account of Jesus, preferably two. As far as anyone knows, and scholars have poured countless hours into this research, no such record(s) exist. That doesn't mean he didn't exist, but there is still no evidence outside canonical and non-canonical texts, written by Christians.
And this brings up another point. If Christians really wanted to strengthen their argument about his historical existence, they would have to admit more non-canonical writings into the record. This would include some of those from the so-called Gnostic gospels. However, that would be problematic because it would mean conceding to stories and teachings that have been considered heretical for 2,000 years. It would mean the undoing of orthodox narratives. This, the orthodox-minded Christians and all of their offshoot brethren will not do.
To your point about non-canonical writings, orthodoxy, and the historical Jesus, here is my counter-argument: There is another way to view this. Chiefly, non-canonical writings don't necessarily need to be accepted as theologically orthodox to contain a grain of historical truth. I.e., the Christian can reject them as Scripture while conceding that their existence does strengthen the existence of the historical Jesus by establishing a relative chronology. For instance, a gnostic scribe penning the theologically twisted tale of a true-to-life figure not far removed from his own lifetime. That's how I look at it, at least.
@@tomsuiteriii9742 That may be your view, however you are not an official church leader (I assume), and it is unlikely one would make such a move.
The problem Christians can't seem to get their head around is these people they like to bring up as "Evidence" people like Josephus who was born a decade after Jesus died so never met him and wrote Antiquities in 93AD decades after the fact, Tacitus 116AD, Suetonius 120AD, Pliny the Younger 112AD, Lucian of Samosata 166AD, these are all centuries later that are basically centuries of hersay he said that she said that he said this thing happened therefore "Evidence", yet if you ask them would you be ok put on trial for murder and as evidence someone says a man said 3 centuries ago a man named Dave murdered someone your name is Dave therefore your guilty of murder as this is so called by your own standard "Evidence" they all say no, so why accept this nonsense as "Evidence".
Were there no talented artists of the time who could have drawn Jésus from life? Why wasnt this done? Roman historiens have no account that he ever was and not a shred of archealogical évidence. The entire region was a war zone during the time he allegedly lived. ❤ 6:09
@@tomsuiteriii9742 That would be hard to do. Example: The Infancy Gospel was ascribed to Thomas. It tells stories about Jesus's childhood that are literally impossible to prove or disprove, including the story of him killing animals with spiritual energy. These and other non-canonical stories beg the question of truthfulness, which eventually spread to to the canonicals. The Church has 2,000+ years of investment in the canon. They've literally fought battles over them, including bloodshed. Adding non-canonical stories to prove historicity changes orthodoxy irrevocably. I don't see the Church allowing this.
Jesus was a reader, teacher, and challenged the top renowned scholars of his days, yet he always wrote in the sand and then wiped it away, performed miracles and told the witnesses to not mention the miracle, Jesus had a mission, timeline, a beginning and a proclaimed ending, nothing could get in the way of Gods plan...We look for hard proof of his existence because we have "little faith", it's all about the faith...Jesus said to Thomas, "Because you have seen me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen, and have believed. God is a choice, you get to choose and it cost nothing.
Harry Potter was generous, caring and loving to his friends and taught us to stand up against evil.
What's your point?
The message being good does not prove whether Jesus was real.
I can promise you that if Jesus let me put my hand in his crucifixion wounds like he did for Thomas, then I would accept he was real too.
@@kennyearthling7965 The fact you quote harry Potter says all that is needed....Good luck.
It makes no sense. Why? Why would a "god" character care one single bit that you "believe" in it? I clearly see the motive of a human institution wanting divine authority in law and society but there is no motive for an actual divine timeless unchanging superego to care.
@edwinwinn8876 is that a polite way of saying "you're going to hell"? 😂
@@edwinwinn8876 The real problem is that it costs everything. To believe in Jesus often means to die to ourselves and many people have a lot to lose. They hold value to those things they'll lose but don't realise how detrimental they are and what they'll gain to let them go. It's why people need more and more proof, because they're terrified to let go of things and are scared it will be for nothing. Been there.
You know, given that he should have known he was a God, do you think it would have killed him to write a few thing down. He could have used magic to produce texts containing his instructions
SILENCE!
@@DavidPowersTraining-jy6cg What does that mean? Silence? It's a free country Jack, you haven't got your theocracy just yet. With the exception of Florida, Texas, Arkansas, Tennessee and maybe Oklahoma.
@@stevenpeaketrainsandstuff3682 I forgot I needed to make it real simple for some people. It means to be quiet.
@@DavidPowersTraining-jy6cg Does my blasphemy offend you? Actually, my original post was hardly offensive. It just raised a perfectly reasonable point. God, in the form of Jesus, should have written a few things down. .
@@stevenpeaketrainsandstuff3682did you ever consider that he may have and it was all sought out and destroyed, or hidden? Given the persecution and murder of his followers after his death and resurrection, it stands to reason that there’s a strong possibility that any evidence of his existence would’ve been suppressed or destroyed. The Dead Sea scrolls were found after 2,000 years hidden in clay jars in a cave, and in it were found gospels not found in the Bible. There may actually be actual writings of his still buried or hidden away and no one has found it yet. Or the Vatican may have something in its hermetic vaults. Just because you don’t have proof or consensus about something, doesn’t mean it isn’t true or doesn’t exist.
I always wondered why Jesus didn’t write down his own words. People had been writing down stories for over a millennium by the time of his life.
From an article it was stated that Aramaic which was the native language of Jesus there was no written form yet during that time.
Have you written down all the words you've spoken? Has anyone ever done that? No... History is written 50 to 100 years after the fact.
@cliffthatcher4574 To be fair, Jesus had a huge following, never mind the 12 apostles. Someone must have written it down immediately after he spoke.
He could not write. He if he existed was not educated
@buckyhate7695 Also, to be fair, even if Jesus' history was recorded, probably decades after his death, it was because someone who had lived during his time must have spoken it.
The Roman Catholic Church had stated that, Christianity was “made up!”-the Roman Empire was splitting up, so, the Emperor came up with this “story” to save the empire-hence, the “Holy Roman Empire” was born
According to translations of Letters to Seneca from Pontius Pilate, if we can rely on them... regardless of who Yeshua was, he did exist...
No such letters exist, unfortunately.
@@donaldbush1182 do you know this with certainty?
@@donnamatsyk1032 I’m afraid so. It would be incredible evidence if it weren’t a work of fiction, rejected almost universally by academic and religious scholars. These supposed letters were first “discovered” in London in 1928 and the author appears to have been a journalist by the name of W.P. Crozier.
@@donaldbush1182 actually you are correct
You can't use the bible to "prove" the bible. There is zero evidence outside of the gospels for the existence of even a so-called historic Jesus. Josephus is a later interpolation.
You said " There is zero evidence outside of the gospels for the existence of even a so-called historic Jesus."
You sure about that?
Jesus Christ was born during the reign of the first official Roman emperor, Augustus. He was crucified under the reign of the second emperor, Tiberius. It was Pilate that put Jesus on the cross.
I assume you accept that these people really existed (the month of august is named after Augustus).
King Agbar 5 wrote a letter to Tiberius.
Here is part of what was written,
"Abgar, king of Armenia, to my Lord Tiberius, emperor of the Romans, greeting:- I know that nothing is unknown to your Majesty, but, as your friend, I would make you better acquainted with the facts by writing. The Jews who dwell in the cantons of Palestine have crucified Jesus: Jesus without sin, Jesus after so many acts of kindness, so many wonders and miracles wrought for their good, even to the raising of the dead. Be assured that these are not the effects of the power of a simple mortal, but of God. During the time that they were crucifying Him, the sun was darkened, the earth was moved, shaken; Jesus Himself, three days afterwards, rose from the dead and appeared to many. "
Tiberius wrote back,
"Tiberius, emperor of the Romans, to Abgar, king of the Armenians, greeting:- Your kind letter has been read to me, and I wish that thanks should be given to you from me. Though we had already heard several persons relate these facts, Pilate has officially informed us of the miracles of Jesus. He has certified to us that after His resurrection from the dead He was acknowledged by many to be God. Therefore I myself also wished to do what you propose; but, as it is the custom of the Romans not to admit a god merely by the command of the sovereign, but only when the admission has been discussed and examined in full senate, I proposed the affair to the senate, and they rejected it with contempt, doubtless because it had not been considered by them first. "
OK, several things here. If you claim Jesus never existed, this would mean that three independent people were writing to one another about a "fictional" character, and the "fictional character" was considered important enough to be discussed by the senate.
Does that sound logical to you?
For your theory to work, and Jesus not to have existed, this would mean that King Agbar didn't exist, his letter doesn't exist, Pilate never existed, his letter to Tiberius never existed, and Tiberius never existed, and his reply never existed.
Now, your only way around this is to say that the letters are fake (convenient, everytime people write an account of Jesus, it's fake - LOL). But that really doesn't make any sense.
Further more, the Romans had different gods, all based around sun worship. It was the Hebrews who said not to worship the sun but the creator of the sun - God Almighty - and He would come to earth in human form.
Jesus (who in your world didn't exist), came to earth, and started spreading the word - not to worship the sun, but the CREATOR of the sun - God Almighty - and He was He. So powerful were His teachings that people started to spread the word. After His death, the word continued to be spread.
The Romans started to lose control, so they nicknamed the followers of Christ as "Christian." They threw them to lions, put them on crosses to scare people away from the teachings of Christ. But to no avail. They therefore, under Constantine, accepted the teachings of Christ, mixed them up with their own sun worship, and set up the Roman Catholic Church, abandoning - at least on the outside - their multitude of gods to "myth." One being forced the Romans to change their beliefs. That being was Jesus Christ.
He existed. So much so that Islam accepts He did, Judaism, Christianity, most of Hinduism ... all earth's major religions accept this. It's only in recent times that people question this, and that's because of the nonsense of a religion they have adopted - evolution.
Sad.
@@marcj3682 that is the biggest load of made up bullshit I’ve read in a long time.
Please tell me that that was a joke.
Jesus is about as real as Forrest Gump
If you live like that's true you better hope you're right.
Nope, he’s merely a belief, bc He is the son of God. Docetism>>
Without Christ no christians
Christianity wouldn't be a thing
@@leskobrandon8998 Pascals wager in 2024🤣🤣🤣
Jesus may have been a historical figure. But as a God, he is not. If he is an undying God, he would have given convincing evidence to all skeptics and researchers by now that he existed then and exists now.
Prove your grand father existed, can you do that? How many dead people does Jesus have to resurrect, how much public torture does he have endure, how long does he have to hang nailed on a cross? Do you know one man now or in the past who could have done that? your denial goes much deeper than you are willing to admit, Oh the pleasure's of a sin-filled life, to much love of this Rome like world to give up.
@@edwinwinn8876 Re: "Prove your grand father existed, can you do that?" A lot of people have the evidence of their grandparents' DNA. Re: "How many dead people does Jesus have to resurrect . . . ?" One verifiable account would do for me.
Do you have any physical evidence for the physical claim there was a real physical Jesus? If not what then should we think of the far greater claim of his divinity?
It's a very difficult question, but even if this 'jesus' did not actually exist and his life and teaching is a composite and recycling of earlier myth and religion,we must accept that in essence there is something significant and profound therein.
Everything he said can be found in previous religions and philosophies. His message of peace and brotherhood is a product of the modern Enlightenment. Christianity historically has been more concerned with the responsibility of the individual to prepare for the afterlife than for taking care of his fellows. Responsibility for one's fellows is an ethos built into all tribal societies.
His message of peace has never prevented Christian nations from going to war with each other. The history of Europe, as with other regions of the world, is a history of armed conflict.
His messages of love, such as "love conquereth all", have been used to send abused women back to their husbands to die in domestic violence.
Christianity provides the same value to political establishments as is provided by other universalist religions: it provides the ideological glue that can foster a false sense of community where none actually exists, masking divisions of ethnicity, class, gender, etc. , which then fester beneath the surface.
@@pirbird14 I'm referring to the spiritual aspects not those of social control
@@parrhasius So was I. The "love conquereth all" bs has been responsible for the deaths of uncountable numbers of people (let's fact it, mostly women) at the hands of domestic abusers. Some "spiritual advisors" in fundamentalist sects still send wives back to their abusers to "love them more so they won't beat you."
Holy masochism =spiritual death, not life everlasting.
@@pirbird14there you go just like everybody else looking at man's mistakes man's evil man's war man's problems an attributing all those horrible characteristics to the god that created this world or Jesus Jesus never did any of those things he only gave people love and truth but because of the crap that we humans do he is still being crucified for all the time and Jesus did exist there is plenty of evidence to prove that just go out there and find it you know they're actually is a temple in Jerusalem that is still destroyed to the ground Mark 13:1 Jesus's disciples on marveling at the temple how beautiful the ornate stones are make this Temple up in Jesus turns them and says this verily I say to you that one day soon now one of these stones will be on top of the other they will be destroyed to the ground broken up destroyed and torn to sundier in 70 AD that exact thing took place and you can go over there and see that site where those stones are still destroyed still on the ground there is your proof that Jesus existed in the Bible is real right there
First of all, by God, this incident happened to me. I don't know why or the reason. It should be said. This is my duty to say it and others have the right to know it. I am from Qatar First what happened was a real vision of a image of a man on the ceiling of my room. He appeared in April 2016. His face was somewhat long, his features were beautiful to the point indescribable. His beard was light, his hair fell over his shoulders, his eyes were very bright and sharp, and his features were mostly from the northern Middle East . The picture was very clear, which amazed me. I was asleep and suddenly I woke up to witness the event. At first, I thought that he resembled my friend in his features to a very small degree, but inspiration came to me quickly. He was the Messiah. It took a time that I cannot estimate, and I did not know what happened after that or when I went back to sleep. Since then, I have started writing about this topic, or rather about the miracle, in many places.use google to translate Arabic to English,
This isn't history. This is a hagiography.
For me the real question is “who was he” as the evidence for his historical existence is there. It’s clear he existed but who was he? Was he just a normal Jewish man if that time? Was he a Rabbi? Was he a Prophet? Or was he truly the Son of God? It is for each individual to answer that question one which as a skeptic, I spent 7 years on researching Non Christian writings, Archeology, Christian writing tings and all the other key people surrounding Jesus. Their humanity, behaviour and actions. There is no doubt at all in my mind who he was/is. This video presents a high level synopsis of what’s out there to be read and reviewed, if you have the time, do it.
The Substance and Evidence found in faith prove Jesus.
We have zero documents written by Jesus' character. There are no words in any version of a Hebrew Torah which translates into the English word "God". There are no characters in any version of any religion who exhibit all-knowing and infallible capabilities.
Go back to school.🤣
@@chriskitchen4772 Provide evidence that I am mistaken. I've been studying human behavior, politics, religion and social cultures for over five decades. Humanity created their gods to imitate the infinite possible range of pleasurable and horrific experiences which we encounter throughout our lives.
@@KGP221okay then if it was all just created by man answer me this question how come the Bible doesn't give anybody and out to just sin as much as they want
@@benjaminvalenti1242 Humanity’s two base yet complete opposite behaviors are well-intentioned and nefarious. Most people are not good "or" evil, they have the propensity for both depending upon circumstances they encounter. For instance, I don't believe in God and am inclined to treat people with empathy and dignity, while Reverend Jim Jones believed in God and brought death to many.
Bibles are not a guide to morality. Well-intentioned people who also believe in a God fail to reason that if their God created everything, then evil (nefarious behavior) is part of that everything. Isaiah 45:7 states that explicitly. They also don't recognize that the stories of Adam's and Eve's eviction, Noah's flood, the crucifixion /resurrection, and Revelation's new heaven and earth reveal a God who after supposedly creating humanity with both good and evil intentions was displeased with the evil half of that equation and attempted repeatedly to destroy it, but has yet to succeed.
Well-intentioned Christian's might want to weigh their beliefs of a world with only good people against their God's failures to accomplish that goal. Either he is a complete failure, or he simply doesn't exist.
Nature brought everything into existence and nature consumes everything back into itself, ad infinitum.
@@benjaminvalenti1242 Authors of Bibles use the words forgiveness and remission of sins. These Two words mean absolution, amnesty, exemption, and excuse. That is the back door (an out) which you are asking about. Biblical authors made a big deal about sin and then just as easily dismissed it?
Now it's your turn to answer a question. Did the God you believe in create sin?
As we bow our heads in prayer, let's lift our spirits with hope. God's love is a beacon of light in the darkest of times. 🌟🙏
There is no evidence. Besides that, zero evidence that he could have been divine, or that there is a god at all.... Not only is the title a dumb question... but one thing is certain.. Even if Jesus did exist, he didn't look anything like the person pictured on the TH-cam title page. LOL
He wouldn't recognise himself as the person they invented either. As a Jew, he would consider the fact he was a part of a contrived Trinity God as nothing short of delusional blasphemy.
Whatever you say man
Other than an entire religious that was founded by..... someone?
What would he have looked like? What is your expert opinion of his appearance, since race has to be included into ever single issue today.
Interesting video. One thing, though: the guy at 7:59 is the Roman emperor Nerva, not Pliny the Younger, as is suggested.
There is no tangible evidence outside of Scriptures
Apologists cannot refute the fact that Jesus, his life, teachings and miracles, were all recorded only in the anonymously written, in educated Greek, four gospels, several decades after the events. No other historical records corroborated any of the events mentioned in the gospels, not even Jesus.
Appealing to the Quran on Jesus ? Really ? The Quran dates to some 500+ years AFTER the time of Jesus.
No different to using the bible that was built centuries later by the Catholic church, all Christian writings are hundreds of years after Jesus, as there are no 1st century manuscripts so the people who say this book and that book was writen within 20 years of Jesus are lying as you can't date a manuscript that doesn't exist. So all writings whether Qu'ran or Bible are from hundreds of years after the time of Jesus, the earliest manuscripts we have are 3rd century, Papyrus 46 has been paleographically dated between 175 and 225, so early 3rd century CE so over 200 years after the fact.
No different to using the bible that was built centuries later by the Catholic church, all Christian writings are hundreds of years after Jesus, as there are no 1st century manuscripts so the people who say this book and that book was writen within 20 years of Jesus are lying as you can't date a manuscript that doesn't exist. So all writings whether Qu'ran or Bible are from hundreds of years after the time of Jesus, the earliest manuscripts we have are 3rd century, Papyrus 46 has been paleographically dated between 175 and 225, so early 3rd century CE so over 200 years after the fact.
IfJesus was so magical and his coming was so special that God created a supernova, timed just right across light-years of space, for the light to reach earth and produce the Star of Bethlehem, to announce his arrival, then why was he not able to finish his job, the first time, and not need to return again after more than 2000 years?
Many people claim that Jesus is saving them right now, from addiction, etc. If Jesus already has a magic presence in the world, why should he even need a Second Coming?
Isn't the Second Coming a bit behind schedule? Wasn't Jesus supposed to be here, by now?
He is coming when ever he want and as a believer and strong faith in religion and we will keep practicing and honoring his second coming and is something we will passed down to our children and you wouldnt understand because u are an unbeliever and an atheist
Yes, it really exists, because there is kindness and love, and all of this can be seen in his life. There is no other person like him
We have Sathya Sai Baba
Who is doubting the existence of Jesus Christ ?
Many people.
Does the fact his crucifixion is so momentous in history time is counted as 'before Christ' and 'after Christ'?! Yes, He existed. More than enough evidence. And then Christianity swept the world. Read the Bible. Every answer to every question is there. Jesus invites us to follow His Path be a loving person. To purify ourselves of the dark aspects of our nature and instead be loving and kind, helpful and giving. Die to self. We feed the poor, heal the sick, tend to the homeless. We are being painted so black. I think very few of our young adults will raise their children in the Light.
Everyone who isn't a zombie.
Re: "Who is doubting the existence of Jesus Christ ?" It depends on what you mean by "Jesus Christ." If you mean the Son of God, then everyone who is not a Christian doubts his existence. Personally, I believe that some Jew with reformist ideas got crucified, but I doubt that his name was actually Jesus (not a Jewish name), that anyone called the guy "Christ" while he was alive (not a Hebrew word), or that he was more deserving to be called "the Son of God" than anybody else.
Reading all the comments leaves me to wonder if everyone missed a lot of the biggest points. Faith. Kindness. Forgiveness. Gratitude and love and care for the least among us. Yeshua
I am a very kind and honest person because I was taught to be so by my gentle loving parents, this required no religion or holy book.
These characteristics are inherent through Jesus the creator.@@kennyearthling7965
@barronmaxxx2991 None of these things are really relevant to the question being asked. I expected there to be some evidence of Jesus's existence even if it couldn't be established that he was divine. The fact that we only have one fragment of tablet to confirm the existence of Pontius Pilate hints at how difficult it is to find evidence of anyone not an emperor or great general. Still, we do know how easy it is, and how often it happens, that humans exaggerate a real person, or elevate a mythical person to that of an almost historical person. Two examples were given in the video and others include Robin Hood, King Arthur etc. These are probably exaggerated composites with a nugget of truth lost to history. I feel certain that Jesus is such a character. The fact that none of the Gospels were written until many decades later and none are thought to be actual eye witnesses, lends credence to this theory. Perhaps we will never know, but one thing is for sure, if Jesus was the son of god and was put on earth as his messenger, the whole thing failed spectacularly. Yes, I know Christianity is still around, but it is declining as we become less superstitious. Surely god cannot expect people to have faith with nothing to have faith in?
Re: ' Faith. Kindness. Forgiveness. Gratitude and love and care for the least among us." People believed in all of these virtues before the gospels were written.
No substantial evidence indeed, but just myth which you may or may not believe.
I would think God, Jesus, or anyone like Moses has a priority in not leaving any evidence which goes along with the Spiritual emphasis that Jesus made a serious effort in conveying. This is God's prime plan, to bring us together in Spirit, to worship in Spirit, even stating that this is Hidden from the proud and arrogant. That is a Major message in itself, especially to those who have been enlightened by the Holy Spirit, if you are one of those you are Rare and wonderfully eternal!
Scholars will have as much success finding evidence for Jesus as they would finding evidence for Batman.
I learned about Jesus Christ in 6th grade- didn't Judas betray him?
Denying the existence of Jesus won't make him go away, it only proves that no amount of evidence will convince an unbeliever.
What an idiot
*Denying the existence of Jesus won't make him go away* Freedom of and freedom from religion will as it is doing now.
Dionysus, Osiris and Mithras won't go away either.
Re: ". . . no amount of evidence will convince an unbeliever." You've got it backwards. Evidence, rather than faith, is precisely what "unbelievers" do believe.
If you doesn't believe His existence, there'll be millions of reasons to question His existence. But, If you believe in Him, you have only one reason, i,e, the truth.
Yet there is no evidence to support the claim that this story occurred let alone anything close to what you can remotely claim as ‘truth’. What is required is facts and evidence.
Nothing presented in this video remotely comes close to this required classification of findings being facts and evidence. All that is presented are remote unfounded claims.
Please stop using the word truth when you are clearly lying and manipulating.
@@eatfrenchtoast as I mentioned: What is required is facts and evidence for these unfounded claims. Are you able to provide the required facts and evidence for these claims? Be honest. Come forward and present what is required.
PhD Scholars that believe the Gospel Jesus never existed; Thomas L. Brodie, (His 2012 book Beyond the Quest for the Historical Jesus, Thomas L. Thompson, Robert M Price, Bruno Bauer, Arthur Drews, George Albert Wells, (1975 book, Did Jesus Exist?, Earl Doherty, John M. Allegro, Alvar Ellegård, Archibald Robertson, Albert Schweitzer, On the Historicity of Jesus: by Richard Carrier, Raphael Lataster, Gerd Lüdemann, his book Paul, the founder of Christianity, Philip R. Davies, R. Joseph Hoffmann, Dan Barker, his book From Preacher to Atheist, John E. Remsburg, his book The Christ: A Critical Review and Analysis of the Evidence of His Existence, H.H. Mangasarian, his book, "The Truth about Jesus, is he a Myth? among many others.
You can tell how the text is worded in the description that this is mere apologetics. No need to even watch it. If one is really interested in this subject there are impartial books to be read.
No such thing as "impartial" books.😂
@@chriskitchen4772 Some have more facts than others, though.
600 years after the figure have died how you going to write about someone you never seen and a mystery figure that never lived 🤣😂😅🤨🤭
The evidence for his 'historicity' is incredibly weak and the comment section offers many reasons why that is. We can understand why the Jesus story is so popular, however...
The New Testament Jesus story was created to FIX the Old Testament and its horrible stories - which we know are myth now, but when this was all put together, the 'followers' didn't know that. Myth then was more like science to us today to the masses. It was how they looked at the world
The creators of the Jesus story did a good job of tying some of his 'fulfilled prophecies' of the Old Testament - thus making it seem viable. They thought that through and its obvious to someone outside the bubble.
The Bible - which is a library of books spanning around 1500 to 2000 years, was assembled in around 325 AD which really started the crusade of 'organized Institutional Christianity'.
The message of Christianity is a very strong one. We are all doomed because of original sin from the original couple created by God, we can't fix ourselves and therefore we are doomed. Given there is nothing we can actually do about it, God did a blood sacrifice (what he was loves as demonstrated in the OT) of his own son to take on and forgive us of our sins. All we have to do is believe the story, and we have a chance of eternal life of bliss, vs internal damnation. I mean... if you are doing to have a religion, it is a pretty good message, right? It is selling HOPE and weaves a good yarn that includes popular mythological motifs that people really go for, especially when all of this was put together.
Islam saw the power of the Christian story, so they borrowed it and acknowledged Jesus and created their own version of 'statutes' to start that religion.
When you step back, it is all very clear
In his book on the Historical Jesus ,Albert Schweitzer strongly suggested that the "Gospel Jesus" never had any existence. However ,it opens the door to many possibilities as to what Jesus was ,some of which are touched on in this blog.
Some other texts, such as the Protoevangelium of James, present a distinct portrayal of Jesus.
@@TheHistoryHubs yes,I believe James was a historical figure so that would be interesting to know more about
10 FACTS OF JESUS EXISTENCE OUTSIDE OF THE BIBLE th-cam.com/video/wUmWsPhllAU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=n-CbgBskgLQk8U8T
Albert said a lot of racist stuff, what did good old Albert say about Africans? I would rather quote Jesus any day.
LOVE THE NARRATORS CRYSTAL CLEAR VOICE . THANKS! THE HISTORY HUB. FROM, U.K. (2023).🙂🙂💯👍👍!!!
Thanks for listening
12 men who followed him and gave up their lives to him and died for him and GOD ALMIGHTY WOULD SAY YESHUA DOSE EXIST THEN AND NOW
*12 men who followed him* No evidence outside the bible they existed. *and gave up their lives to him and died for him* No evidence this happened either.
If Jesus had not risen, why would the apostles who were cowering in the upper room out of fear become brave enough to tell the people about Christ and make themselves subject to hideous deaths,if they had not been with him after he rose..? Also the SHROUD is scientifically being authenticated.
The shroud unfortunately has NOT been scientifically authenticated. The stories of apostles are also just stories without any evidence. No different from the stories about Mt. Olympus.
The apostles were conned into believing what he said. Just like devotees of a former president. They go around and hang out with poor people, promising them really neat stuff like eternal life or winning bigly in return for total dedication to the cause.
Yes, and they would die horrible deaths for it. I don't think so. Your theory is nonsense. You might want to look into Biblical prophecy regarding the nation of the Jews and the history of that nation. There is no way it could come to be unless there was a God. The odds are more than against it.🙂@@stevenpeaketrainsandstuff3682
The Shroud has not been authenticated.
If Pontius Pilates letters to Tiberius are reliable, then boom! You have it!
They're not. They're medieval/renaissance fakes.
Or 300 thousand Christian who willfully died in the Roman Coliseum said it well enough, all they had to do to save their own life was to say, Jesus wasn't real. Boom!
So...in conclusion...there is no contemporary evidence Jesus existed as as historical figure.
While I have no reason to believe in the existence of any supernatural or supranatural force controlling human affairs, I nevertheless find it to be a denial of reason to state, categorically and unequivocally, that Jesus definitely did not exist. To me, this is as illogical as any "He was divine, and of course he existed, because the Bible says so" assertion.
True. Christian faith says man is associated with sin,!94 the flesh. So?? So, was he also a sinner as well as his virgin, mother? Asteria? Lol.
That's funny, just think how men have normalized Abortion again, that's one thing Satan loves, human sacrifice, Sodomy, and human mutilations, and it's all been normalized in America and around the world once again....But no spiritual influence was involved.
“Raised to Heaven by God” is a rejection of Jesus’ crucifixion? Interesting take on how language works.
The Muslim perspective on the crucifixion is interesting. They do not accept it, questioning how God would allow such an event. So alternatively they believe that God made Judas appear like Jesus, and it was him the Romans crucified, not Jesus. They also say Jesus will return one day and restore order on Earth
The Muslims turned God into a deciever. The greatest of them.@@TheHistoryHubs
The gospel of Mary Magdalene, lost for 1800 years, mention Jesus numerous times.
So do the golden plates of the Book of Mormon.
@@donaldbush1182that book is a forgery
The artwork is enough.
The Bible was written for the account of Jesus spoke of prophecies that have happened and are going to continue to happen he is our blessed.hope How do you explain Born again Christians. Jesus also said they would be false prophets at the end times they will come in my name they will say Jesus did not. existe If Jesus did not exist in the entire Bible did not.exist How would Jesus have known about these prophecies that have happened thousands of years before they would happen if he was not God . How can a regular man know these things in the future if he was not God. Jesús coming back
Jesus said he'd be back with his kingdom before the men around him were dead. Matthew 16:28. He didn't. I wouldn't be holding my breath for another curtain call.
The world knew him not!
John1 v10.12
Recieved Him not*
Then what’s the point?
The gospel of John is an outlier, written about 110CE. Author unknown. There are major inconsistencies with the synoptic gospels, which is not unusual when you consider the Nativity and Crucifixion narratives have little consistency with each other in any gospel.
All a question of faith one believes
In someone greater only Jesus
Qualifies!
There’s more evidence for the Easter 🐣 Bunny!!
That white Jesus did not exist!
What about purple Jesus?
This is ended once you are aware that the first roman census undertaken by Caesar Augustus did include a JESUS OF NAZARETH!
Really? Evidence please
You didn't prove anything
This whole video feels ai generated
Im Just here for the comments ...
Great entertainment 😅
Zero, none!
No.
The Quran are false its not a religion but a way of life to suite islam
Christianity are the way to God
This isn’t possible bc christian faith itself declares the sin, to be “flesh”, this perfection or Christ can’t exist!!
Jesus peace be upon him is not GOD,GOD dont have children,Jesus peace be upon him is a prophet,messenger and the messiah,he never said to worship him
Was Adam and Eve Gods children?
Fictional character created by the Romam Empire!
Nazareth didn't even exist, on about Jesus in the Bible!!
God revealed to us in human form and his name Jesus, If you accept Jesus you will have eternal life. Please note there is another life after our death and Jesus is the only way to Heaven. Think and repent today
All you have to do is prove it.
@@druidriley3163if it was true I would worship such blackmail extortion even less.
Are you sure?There are other religions and they are also waiting for the savior.What makes yours so special?
Really. The whole book is plagiarized. Very little is original. Most of the original is bombastic.
Did you read it? No you never have read it, you only know what is popular.
What about the dead sea scrolls? they were written many years before Jesus came to earth. They have never found his body. If he didn't exist, then why did Jesus fufill hundreds of prophecy from the Old Testament written over 1000's of years before? Do you realize how could one man fufill all those predictions? could you calculate the percentage of Jesus fufilling one or more of those Old Testament prophecies? It's mindboggling! But He did!!!
Jesus was Just a Ordinary Prophet.
The main thing is that the killer was not compared to other prophets. I am proud of Jesus that he is so good, he is incomparable
Many people do not like the truth and their own people have rejected this rejection, it is a fact of its existence and it is still happening today
The only Jesus I can't say anything bad about. The lives of other prophets are well known to everyone, and none of the human beings can come close to Jesus
Do not put the lord ur god to the test
Why not? There are more than 5,000 worshipped gods currently. How do we know which ones are fake?
Yeah cause he never shows up.
No
The universe is organized......why?....does that mean that there is an organizer (god)?
To me it means the universe and all matter (including us) is made up of energy that moves in cycles. We are a part of that. "To understand the secrets of the Universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration." Nicola Tesla. Since energy is based in mixing cycles and waves, it will maintain organization naturally.
@@danielpaulson8838 I am not a very religious or uneducated person I repeat not religious but I've noticed that certain people can transfer extremely bad energy and cause harm to other people by staring and thinking of them in a jealous way. I've concluded and seen it with my own eyes. How is that in any way possible if there's no physical altercation whatsoever?
Flavius Josephus, the most important Jewish historian of all time, affirms Jesus existed in his writings.
Antiquities of the Jews 18.3.3
In terms of archaeology, it's impossible to refute that Rome occupied the land of Israel (John 11:48). Their fingerprints are all over the land. So we know those parts of the New Testament are true.
Town of Caesarea, Israel (Acts 10:1). Named after Caesar Augustus (Luke 2:1).
Town of Caesarea-Philippi, Israel (Matthew 16:13). Named after Caesar and Philip (Matthew 14:3).
Town of Tiberias, Israel (John 6:23). Named after the Emperior Tiberius (Luke 3:1).
Herodium (south of Jerusalem). Named after King Herod (Matthew 2:1).
The Pontus Pilate Stone (Luke 3:1) - th-cam.com/video/Msu6HaJM6HY/w-d-xo.html
The Masada Fortress - th-cam.com/video/xwGJYIWhZDM/w-d-xo.html
Arch of Titus (Located in Italy)
Thank you I couldn't remember the historians name. Yeshua's crucifixion was also spoken of by Roman authors. Long before the counsel of Nicia. There is more evidence of him. Than a lot of "historically factual" people. From the same time period
@@danielbryant1539Jesus peace be upon him is a prophet,messenger and the messiah,he never said to worship him,he use to pray and fast,he use to eat and drink,he dont eat pork,he dont drink alcohol,he is pious and he fear GOD peace be upon him
The passage you're referring to regarding Josephus on Jesus is actually a later Christian interpolation into the text. Evan if it was genuine all Josephus is doing is repeating a story that he has been told as he gives no source as to his claims regarding Jesus.
@@shauntaylor7332
Highly unlikely that Flavius Josephus would provide a false account of Jesus while also providing record of many of the other New Testament characters in book 18 of Antiquities of the Jews.
Pharisees - Antiquities of the Jews 18.1.3 / Matthew 3:7
Sadducees - Antiquities of the Jews 18.1.4 / Matthew 3:7
Judas the Galilean - Antiquities of the Jews 18.1.6 / Acts 5:37
The Samaritans - Antiquities of the Jews 18.2.2 / John 4:22
Pontus Pilate Antiquities of the Jews 18.3.1 / Luke 3:1
King Herod - Antiquities of the Jews 18.4.3 / Matthew 14:6
Caiaphas and Ananus - Antiquities of the Jews 18.4.3 / Luke 3:2
John The Baptist - Antiquities of the Jews 18.5.2 / Matthew 3:1
We also know a New Covenant was prophesied to be given (Jeremiah 31:31-34). This New Covenant would have been given at some point after Judah returned from the Babylonian Exile (Jeremiah 50:1-5). The New Covenant would have also provided atonement for the nation's sins (Ezekiel 16:59-63) after the Old Covenant was broken (Hosea 8:1, Jeremiah 11:10, Deuteronomy 31:16, 1 Kings 19:10).
@@johnmann8659 No early church father had any knowledge of this passage until Eusebius who is the most likely culprit around 300CE.
The three Gospels are three variants of a single template. It emerges all throughout history. Jesus is a Buddha or a Lao Tzu, Arjuna, Jason, Heracles, et al. here is a recent example. See the conceptual template? That is what one needs to go after. It frames every myth and religion. There is Just one Truth. And many ways outward looking that lead to disaster. Christianity is the biggest broadest outward looking path.
Jesus was 'called' as being the only son of God, had 'supernatural powers,' traveled with 'handpicked disciples,' and instructs to seek the 'Kingdom of Heaven Within.'
Arthur was 'called' as the only one who could get Excalibur, had Merlin for 'supernatural powers,' traveled with ‘handpicked, Knights,' and seeks 'The Holy Grail.'
There are hundreds of these to those who look. Jesus is a carrier of the teaching. It is the teaching that has value. Not the source.
Jesus peace be upon him is a propjet,messenger and the messiah peace be upon him
Jesus peace be upon him is a prophet,messenger and the messiah,he never said to worship him
Unless the ‘source’ is the message…
@@fredhall5038 The source is the wrapping paper and it contains the message for the many called so you are correct.
But further, the template is framing the story sequence on life stages to interact with for the few chosen. They require interpretation.
Fable. True, false or carrier of a teaching?
Same thing. Theists believe the supernatural and atheists deny it. Seekers thank them for bringing the interactive template here from antiquity.
Well that "source" was beaten, spat upon, mocked, tortured, and crucified for me. So that my sin debt might be cancelled before God. I think the "source" was the most important.🙃
This is the only non biased video I could find. Great job.
Glad you liked it!
Likely existed but due to rape of Mary by Roman soldier hence why he preached forgiveness, compassion etc...He was Pshyscopath likely due to his rapist dad.
You can not date stone.
Yahweh is not Jesus!!
Yahweh started as a volcano 🌋 god before joining the Canaanite pantheon. He continued to transform. Why are you limiting his ability to transform into Jesus? Do you speak for him?
@@donaldbush1182 Yahweh is dead!!
@@andresdelatorre2244 oh no! What happened to him!
Geshem Israel Geshem Israel elehenu Adonai Hashem. I was born March 11th in Bethlehem 61 years ago. Schlama. Malkuth. Khubba
And.....?
@@mickthemasher what is your question? Schlama means peace. Malkuth means heaven. Khubba means love. Merry Christmas.
@@jacovawernett3077iam a muslim,shlama illukh,shlama illakh,shalom lak,i wish you a really nice day,peace be upon the wonderfull prophet Jesus,he is the messiah,he is a messenger of GOD,like Moses peace be upon him,Abraham peace be upon him,Mohamad peace be upon him,Noah peace be upon him,David peace be upon him,peace be upon all the prophets and messengers
@@mickthemasheri invite you to discover islam,i wish you a really nice day,take care of you my bro
@@RedaReda-vl9ff Thank you brother. You too are a Messenger of God. If God has not told you that from above He has told you in your heart and soul. God spoke 50 sentences to me from above. 11.17.2015 Eve Beach Waikiki, early evening. I sat under the stars alone. The lat 2 sentences of 11 that God spoke to me from above that night were, Make Israel one. You are anchor. To make Israel one means to bring peace and reconciliation between Jew, Christian, Muslim:cousins by Abraham. I have never been able to hang onto hate. I see God's light in everyone. I do get frustrated sometimes because we have such a rare beautiful world and yet people want to fight and greed runs rampant in many. The Prophet Muhammed dealt with a lot of difficulties. And yet people still fight over Isaac and Ismail. On this day I want to say that you have filled my eyes with tears of joy and gratitude. To you and all your family and friends I thank you with all my heart and soul. Big hearts beat true and honest. Shukrun.
Did Jesus resemble Yasser Arafat or Charleston Heston?
Charleston? Christmas sherry already?
He might have looked a tad Arafatish given the region he was born. But then again, there is some dispute over parentage with Jesus. He might have looked a little bit European, cause God is white, old, and has a long beard. Or so the paintings of him suggest. But if someone other than God and Joseph is the father, I'm leaning toward him looking like a younger Arafat.
Mock all you want but eternity without God is a long time to think about it.
amazing how a bunch of white guys named with white guy names lived in Palestine lol!
Dude... not a great take
What color were they supposed to be, if they were black would it be more accurate for you? How about brown, or tan....all brown eyes be better? What did Jesus look like? My goodness the KKK is back in power.
There's more evidence for the existence of Jesus than for Socrates and Plato yet theres no one questioning the existance of those two. The truth is that the name of Jesus arouses a lot of discomfort and people would rather he didnt exist so they can continue living as they are living - as their own god, by their own autonomy and wisdom and without feeling "guilty". Speaking from experience. I was so relieved when I watched documentaries against his existance. But the Lord had other plans for me. Thank goodness.
The shroud of turin is enough evidence for me to say he is real
it was made in the middle ages!
@@tombuilder1475 don't agree
Exactly!
Proven false. Proven 1st century. @@tombuilder1475
@@tsquared4831cynical
Read history book by Josephus about the historical Jesus.
Forgery. Mainstream scholars consider Josephus' Testimonium to be a forgery, added by later Christians. He didn't write it.
I want to se proof
Those with eyes to see cannot see, then and now. your power has been captured.
Holy Schmoley!
There is much evidence to the existence of Jesus. The existence of Jesus is not in doubt.
i doubt it!
@@samuelwalker3341 There's no doubt about His existence, neither is there any doubt about His crucifixion.
@@DavidPowersTraining-jy6cg It's what came after the crucifixion that's in doubt. No witnesses to him walking out of the cave. Only a few people witnessed his accension. He might have wanted a bigger audience for this event. At least get a scribe to record what happened live.
I wouldn't say "much evidence", but enough to believe he existed. More evidence than a lot of historical figures.😊
But not the Gospel Jesus doing magic tricks.
It is fascinating how they have never found Jesus or anyone person that existed in the bible , And it is millions of people in the bible , I have been researching for a long time and so for i keep finding that the bible is just a biblical story.
Tell us how they could find Jesus, he was resurrected, no bones left to find...So have you ever been to Israel? BC the do know where many of them are berried....
I dont need 'historical evidence ' to believe in christ ......thats why its called faith .
I agree - faith is idiocy.
Hi u can dwell into this topic and put doubt in the mind of people to me he the Son exits iam the livkng proof and dont compare the islam Quran the the Son of God
How are you the living proof that Jesus exist?Have you seen him?
9:58 It is elusive because He was raised from the dead and is now seated in Heaven. Jesus went back to Heaven with His body intact. The only thing made by man in Heaven are the scars on Jesus's hands and body.
And if you are very very good maybe Santa Claus will bring you a nice toy to play with.
Are you high? You really believe that? Man they got you good.
@@stevenpeaketrainsandstuff3682 correction HE got me real good. Believe it or not, someone's got you. There's an empty throne in every man.. indecision is still a decision and that seat WILL be filled.
@@ernestschultz5065 you probably feel very intelligent right now yet here's a surprise:
1 I'm a medical doctor
2. I'm happily married
3. I make serious money
So even by these meagre standards I still most likely out rank you, yet you have the guts to spit on my faith
@@TheDYNAMITE001 research truly and you'll find out something ...in which no Christian apologetic will tell you. Once you are in the rabbit's hole you'll see how deep it is and impossible to get out because the more you research you' ll find so many things.
Read Bart D Erhman research books.
Watch myth vision potcast.
Watch why the Jews don't believe in Jesus as the Messiah by Rabbi Tovia Singer or buy his booklets 'let's get Biblical".
There are many more gospels.
Yet another "skeptics" clown show casting doubt on the dumbest question of all time. Even atheist Bart Ehrman knows Jesus existed, he just doesn't think Jesus is the Son of God.
Bart Ehrman does not believe in the all-singing, all-dancing, miracle working Jesus of the Gospels.
wrong it is a myth and Bart Ehrman is only one opinion!
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no evidence for Jesus
when jesus arose the roman solders fell to ther kneses let me see i think they knew he was
Fine commentary
😮😮The witness of history, geography, the eye-witness of the various writers, extra biblical writings, even the opposition by the Koran, all these combined give positive witness to the person of Jesus. Whether you choose to ignore the evidence offered or not, that is entirely up to the person. If you treat the examination of the various evidences as you would a criminal trial then perhaps the Scriptures become more reliable. But after studying the texts through the lens I offered examine the rest of the texts and see if they describe the human condition, and ask if they are accurate how does this apply to us. Are we sinners in need of a Savior? Is Jesus that being? Is the message of Scripture good news, is it consistent? And after all this research, should you still doubt the person of Jesus and his message, then add lots of prayer. God bless.
sorry but is all hundreds of years after the supposed facts!
The number of years after a fact doesn’t negate the evidence. There is no expiry date to history. It is about 160-odd years since the American Civil War but no one says that the passage of time means Abe Lincoln didn’t exist or that the war didn’t happen. It is remarkable that over 5000 manuscripts, and parts of documents still exist. Equally interesting is that the Bible itself is an examination of God over thousands of years by over 40 different writers, many who didn’t know each other. The consistency of their witness defies the argument that ‘age’ has diluted the message. Blessings to you and yours.
What a stupid question
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Jesus's
He still influences us. Wow. What a Demi god.
No, more like a GOD.😃
Well, yeah. He was forced on people for thousands of years. Will take a while to shake off his influence.