*Chapters* 00:00 The Second Nissan 02:28 Is it Exciting Enough 05:20 The Practical Variant 06:34 The Spec Doesn't Work 09:55 High Tech Engine 11:30 Driving the Nissan X-Trail 13:15 Not a 7-Seater 15:29 Rivals & Context 17:30 Lessons For Magnite 18:57 Not Enough of a Halo Car 21:10 Should You Buy One 24:48 From Now Till Magnite 26:54 CVTs are Awesome 27:38 Interesting Details 29:00 Owners Loved X-Trails 31:30 No X-Factor 32:05 Safety & Crash Rating 32:43 Quick Summary 37:32 Potential with Indian Products 38:17 The Mahindra Digression 39:19 Magnite Upgrades 41:43 Closing Comments *Explore MotorInc memberships* at youtube.com/@motorinc/join
2:59 Shumi just wanting a good reasonable pickup truck to carry his motorcycles to the track is just cool to watch He was so hoping Nissan would get the pickup truck so that he would just buy it
I am always convinced that Shumi doesn't listen because he always looks like he is thinking of clever quips but his quick-summary is always spot on so.....
@@setuniket You are still asking why? It's obvious right, It's terrible for the price and even Nissan knows it, but they wanna test waters with 150 units. I'm sure it will still find some dumb buyers.
@@KiranKadambari I don't think Nissan is testing the waters. They had 150 units of their unsold inventory from the UK or Japanese market which they wanted to dump it on us. Already facelifted model launched in North American markets. This is just a meaningless exercise by Nissan India to add one more product to their portfolio. Considering its price all 150 units will be used as display in showrooms and eventually will be bought by Nissan senior management. Even die hard Nissan fanboys (assuming if any) wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
I guess had they known the launch price was Rs 49.92 Lakhs 'only', this MotorInc First would have been 10 minutes tops! Nissan got almost 30 minutes of conversation on EX TRAIL from Shumi and Karthik by not disclosing the price earlier! I guess that's a win for Nissan! Spoiler Alert: Rest 12 minutes were just Magnite and Tharro 😂
I have a Nissan terrano 1.5, 110, What a beautiful car, runs like a train on cocaine, absolutely reliable, use it as a daily 60kms, Almost 1L kms now. Some people may call it a duster but it has its own uniqueness, and so so fast. Stage 1 chip tune. Absolutely great service too. Pune.
@@MrDrone-qt6sw I could go on and on about how amazing the terrano and duster platform really, is, only those who have owned one would know. if you do proper preventive maintenance and servicing then there would be almost no injector/other issues(same applies for most cars but people neglect the basics). anyway, this car is a hidden gem and it shall stay that way. Sadly, while even the base xtrail may still be above the rest in dynamics and drivability, it is priced really badly and will probably go unnoticed.
I have Magnite , people seriously underestimate Nissan for their service and products. Hands down the best vehicles and prompt service from Pune service station.
Yes, global manufacturers take us Indians for granted. We recently bought a VW Tiguan. When the vehicle was driven before the India specific software was installed, the blind spot indicators on the ORVMs were working. Once the software was uploaded, the blind spot warning stopped working. Now the dealer says that the Tiguan does not have the blind spot warning system. Just imagine a global manufacturer wilfully disabling a safety feature and saying it does not exist.
I first misread it as Taigun and was shocked. Then I realized its Tiguan and they did that to a 40+L car, I was speechless. Well actually the price doesnt matter... what they have done is beyond ridiculous. And what you say is true. Foreign brands, (including Japanese) looking down on the Indian market is a real thing and its high time we strictly stuck to Indian brands like Mahindra, TVS, Bajaj etc, just like how japanese and korean people strictly buy cars of their homegrown brands only.
I think its called breaking the fourth wall only when the 'actors' on stage or screen separate themselves from the audience through their performance, pretending to be unaware of the camera or the crowd, and then 'break' it by turning to the audience/camera. Here they aren't actors, and aren't unaware of the camera. In fact they're directly talking to us. So technically, there's no wall being broken.
Nissan made a breakthrough with the Magnite and now they will break through with the Xtrail. Exactly opposite approaches. The ICE reminds me of the Safari's first unit.
Regarding the hybrid, apparently the battery faces issues given extreme ambient conditions. That being the major reason Nissan didn’t bring it to India- because our conditions vary a lot and can be very extreme.
@Kulinah if that's the case they wouldn't have gone for base model . Atleast they could have gone for out and out top spec model. Nissan has been doing blunders after blunders in india. No surprise why they launched xtrail only with 150 units and that too through cbu.
What I understand from other publishings or motor channels , this is a variant which was not popular / did not sell well in the UK market due to emission taxation laws and is been (150 units ) shoved /dumped down India’s throat as an aspirational product . Not sure how authentic is the information. If yes then I am appalled by the audacity of these manufacturers.
let me talk about Nissan. I was hellbent in getting the nissan kicks 1.3l turbo, it looked awful, had no features, felt like the word premium left the chat. Yet i wanted the car for the engine, for the sheer joy of driving. 4 months of having being run around by all of the service dealers in Bangalore, i saw a report of 0 kicks being sold over the last 4 months. My wife was the happiest. She was ready to leave me if i had got the kicks. Yes i was that hell bent on that car. Listened to my wife instead, got a Slavia. 2 years later having driven all over the country, i saw just 1 kicks, that too the 1l one. Guess Nissan really dont know what they are doing apart from just being happy with Magnite. (Good car no doubt). This X-trail is nothing but a mockery of themselves.
Not sure if you guys had already thought about this, but you should have this podcast in front of live audience. Your podcasts are funny, full of wisdom and honest.
True..its Japanese what Toyota and Nissan are doing in the Indian market. They are just relying on their Japanese-born engineering*, instead of bringing their global products in the market, especially Nissan. They literally have now 2 models to sell in India. In Nepal, though being a far smaller market Nissan launched the X-Trail e-power with 144hp 1.5ltr petrol engine powering a 210hp motor(4WD) last December @1.8CR and also, we have many more choices from Nissan and Toyota... the Navara, Patrol, Leaf to RAV 4, their hybrids, Corolla, Yaris, Rush, etc
Haha the last 5 mins when conversation shifted to Magnite, I completely forgot that I came in here for X-trail, that's how uninteresting the car sounds. :P
1:25 I would sell all my possessions and buy a GTR if they ever sold it at that price, but I don't know what I'll do after I buy it there's a big speed breaker at the entrance of my neighborhood
Here’s a car no one bought a mild hybrid version of in uk so they are selling it here in twice the price ..calling it a cbu…and then the company is wondering why they aren’t doing well in India
The way Karthik is explaining the X-trail. It feels like he is telling me the horror atmosphere near the haunted house and preparing our mind to expect the unexpected when entering the haunted house.
after listening to this, I want to add some historical context to why Nissan’s reliability is always in question. Shumi referred to this in the ThisConnect episode about Japan but let me bring it here. Mid 80’s-early 90’s is when Japan had a major economic AND cultural boom. This was also when the JDM as we know it brought about the cars we fawn after. After this period, Japan brought out economic policies that basically popped the bubble they existed in, causing downturn of investment. They literally didn’t have the ability to make the “world-beater-in-tech” cars because the money dried up. Nissan, in comparison to Toyota, for example, didn’t have the money to sustain their “high quality ancillary parts” ecosystem. For a long time in the 90’s, their cars barely had any change. Then in the late 90’s, their financials showed red. Meaning that if they continued doing what they did, they would cease to exist. So, in came the Renault deal. And Carlos Ghosn. If it wasn’t for his cost cutting measures and sub-contracting parts deals to external OEM’s at a lower rate than what Nissan used to do, Nissan would have expired way back. But this deal and Carlos’ price cutters resulted in many an issue. The prime issue was CVT problems and engines going wrong. They had to deal with class action lawsuits for the same. And most of the cars ended up as fleet vehicles in US and EU. So, they were designated to the “bargain bin” section immediately. There is an “episode-series” by Donut Media about why Nissan sucks and I think it’s a necessary watch to understand why Nissan is operating the way they are.
The part where Shumi mentioned about tossing out the children via the panoramic sunroof was way more exhilarating than the Nissan Xtrail 😂 by the way the summary was a 10 on 10 and so was the first impressions, spot on as always.
Do you guys remember the Nissan Micra? We got the diesel in 2013 and I've learned to drive in that car and love it. I hope Nissan finds success in India. Any competition is good competition.
Nissan also has the Patrol, which is globally appreciated, super popular in the gulf, and actually came in the news some time back because a popular actor bought it.
Although I am not impressed with the Xtrail's pricing, there are still not many options in that price range with a petrol engine. Tucson, Kushaq and Tiguan. The later two are still sold in their previous generation versions. I wish we had Mazda CX5, Mitsubishi Outlander or CRV in India.
Hello guys, great work as usual. Would love to see a podcast on car/bike etiquettes for both passengers and drivers . Passengers and even drivers can get annoying sometimes and create a distraction putting everyone at risk. Would love to hear your take on this.
Really want to know the insight of the person's thought process who decided to bring X-Trail to India with this config and these many numbers. 99% logical people will not buy it thinking how will nissan support 150 owners with parts and service, whoever buys one needs to be prepared for keeping the car in the service station for number of days during parts change or physical damage. It seems somebody in higher management of nissan just saw the movie Welcome and got impressed by the dialogue of Feroz Khan "abhi hun zinda hai". Then Bam!! We have the X-trail. Kartikeya's expression during Thar Roxx should be captured and used during the promotion the sales will surely double.
Talking about the ride and handling, instead of giving a binary adjective its good/bad, it will be better if you mention any benchmark car. Of course separate benchmarks for ride, handling and balance of ride & handling. Cheers.
Hey DB! This was a strange kind of conversation where the idea, the lack of the power in it, overshadowed the car. We get what you want. Thanks for letting us know. 🙏🏾
If only 150 units, why not do CKD instead of CBU. Would the build be that much more expensive or could that be considered a test bench for production? Or even an SKD?
This is japan's problem of their perception of India's automotive market, if not of India itself. Not only have they brought a below par car and overpriced it but blamed it on us saying this is the kinda of car we as a market want, which is definitely not true. And the last time we had a good japanese bike was R15 v1 and that for the cars was city gen 1 and 2. High time we moved on from japanese manufacturers, just like they do there.
What an awesome looking vehicle - Me in 2010. The X trail seriously trails in the front design department. Its almost good and Im all in for the retro aspect but this has got a serious dated appeal ! And i’m not even talking about the engine or the features. Cars like this make my i20 look so much more vfm 😂
I bought the Nissan Magnite Last year top spec and I absolutely love it. Yeah for sure 5 years later I will have to install an after market infotainment screen. I hope with the facelift they make it even better.
CBU cars is daydreaming, The Govt. Charges 100% tax (24lakh price+24 lakh import tax= 48 lakh ex showroom) and then extra taxes which goes uptill 52lakh on road. But think once if we can get this car in 25-26 lakh on road without import taxes. An ultimate smart new breed of engine.
Excellent Discussion! Probably Nissan guys can’t read Kodiaq Brochure as it’s in English 😀😀. We can expect Toyota Hillix like massive discount to clear the stock!!
I have been working in Malaysia for a while now. Just to give everyone a perspective what Karthik mentioned, the Nissan gives different model options and all are global standards. It is considered one of the top tier brand. Nissan is missing greater opportunities by not launching different products or localising the production. They should have courage in delivering better value products. Awesome content asusual.
I may be wrong, but I don't think this is uploaded on the RSS podcast feed. My podcast app (pocket casts) wasn't able to show this episode. Has anyone faced the same issue?
@@prateekjain5236 To hell with that man. It's the old gen when the rest of the world gets an updated model. Not worth 80% of XUV pricing for that alone. This is before we get to how horrible the rest of it is.
Well i would be surprised if they managed to sell those 150 units .. Nissan should asks its employees would they buy this car even if given 20% discount?? if they can not , how can they expect any customer for this car
06:46 thank you so much for highlighting this points. Almost all the TH-camrs were going gaga over this car and ignored the Price and the Engine completely. 3-Cylinder engine car at 45L 😂😂😭
Summary rating: 9 My thoughts: I feel that the Xtrail occourance is actually to grab the market of Fortuner. As one can see both these cars don't do well with feature set and connectivity but the sense of presence is what makes people buy them for most cases. The pricing also seems to hint that and hence it is not competing with Innova thereby 50L pricetag.
Ok lets talk engine since that is what is the main usp of Fortuner. Nissan is offering a 1.5L 3 cylinder petrol engine that produces 163 ps and 300 NM. Fortuner, though available in Petrol and Diesel, people mainly buy in Diesel engine that is 2.8L 4 cylinder producing 201 bhp and 500 NM of torque. I am sorry but this isnt even a comparison. X Trail is not there for selling X Trail but to improve the brand positioning and help other cars sell. Nobody in their right frame of minds is going to buy this car at that price.
Would have loved to see Shumi's reaction once he gets to know the ex showroom price as 50 Lacs. In my state that would be around 63 Lacs including all taxes and insurance.
At least if they would have priced it correctly, 25-30 lacs or something ex-showroom, I mean it would definitely have an advantage over its competitors, just like the magnite
This is more confusing Motorinc first than C3 Aircross. That car was atleast priced well and have new features lately and it drove really well. What is this ex-trail thingy anyway? Couldn't agree more with you guys.
2 questions - so when you buy a hybrid car the company doesnt give you a warranty on that battery used in the car for making it hybrid? - like now Tata is launching diesel cars and also other other companies too so like does this give assurance that deisel will be there for atleash another 10 years (for the span of life of car) and what if the government bans diesel in that time who will be responsible.
I was also hyped for this xtrail and was watching japnese and other country version. I was totally excited to expect the e4orce tech and was very keen on hoping into it and letting my opinion of EV out of my mind forever. And what you get in India, ICE that drives the wheels. I dont feel a need to watch this review as it has totally disappointed me. But for the first few minutes into the video and the opinions of Shumi has made me watch it for fun. 😅
*Chapters*
00:00 The Second Nissan
02:28 Is it Exciting Enough
05:20 The Practical Variant
06:34 The Spec Doesn't Work
09:55 High Tech Engine
11:30 Driving the Nissan X-Trail
13:15 Not a 7-Seater
15:29 Rivals & Context
17:30 Lessons For Magnite
18:57 Not Enough of a Halo Car
21:10 Should You Buy One
24:48 From Now Till Magnite
26:54 CVTs are Awesome
27:38 Interesting Details
29:00 Owners Loved X-Trails
31:30 No X-Factor
32:05 Safety & Crash Rating
32:43 Quick Summary
37:32 Potential with Indian Products
38:17 The Mahindra Digression
39:19 Magnite Upgrades
41:43 Closing Comments
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I think Shumi should take over car reviews for a while. If Karthik reviews one more japanese car, he's gonna have a mental breakdown 😂
Hahahaha
Yes, vote for Shumi for next car review @@motorinc
I've been saying... They need to swap roles...it's about time... Send shumi for TATA Curvve review..
@user-bm2gb2pn6h yeah the tata organizer's will have an experience
Like how they torture us with their service centre 😂😂
I still remember Karthik's zx 14R review from autocar. He was dope In that video
"There is a panoramic sunroof, so you can throw 2 children out of the roof!" Literally had me in splits!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
the fact that he didn't change his expression while saying that makes it even more funny.
timestamp?
I understand that when a family is going on an tour in this car and dad is driving. Only Dad will be smiling.
This sums it up pretty well.
Not unless the dad didn't have to pay for the car @akibangs88. 😅
2:59
Shumi just wanting a good reasonable pickup truck to carry his motorcycles to the track is just cool to watch
He was so hoping Nissan would get the pickup truck so that he would just buy it
Not at these prices he wouldn't @kshitijpandey6514 🤣
@@motorincfair enough 😂😂
I am always convinced that Shumi doesn't listen because he always looks like he is thinking of clever quips but his quick-summary is always spot on so.....
Hahahaha! Gotcha!
I saw the thumbs down thumb nail.... I decided to check.
The negative attraction is real
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Only 9 minutes into this video and I understand why there are only 150 units 😂
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Why 150 units? How will they sell 150 units!
@@setuniket You are still asking why? It's obvious right, It's terrible for the price and even Nissan knows it, but they wanna test waters with 150 units. I'm sure it will still find some dumb buyers.
their employees will end up with these
@@KiranKadambari I don't think Nissan is testing the waters. They had 150 units of their unsold inventory from the UK or Japanese market which they wanted to dump it on us. Already facelifted model launched in North American markets. This is just a meaningless exercise by Nissan India to add one more product to their portfolio. Considering its price all 150 units will be used as display in showrooms and eventually will be bought by Nissan senior management. Even die hard Nissan fanboys (assuming if any) wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
I guess had they known the launch price was Rs 49.92 Lakhs 'only', this MotorInc First would have been 10 minutes tops! Nissan got almost 30 minutes of conversation on EX TRAIL from Shumi and Karthik by not disclosing the price earlier! I guess that's a win for Nissan!
Spoiler Alert: Rest 12 minutes were just Magnite and Tharro 😂
That’s one way of looking at it! 😆
I have a Nissan terrano 1.5, 110,
What a beautiful car, runs like a train on cocaine, absolutely reliable, use it as a daily 60kms,
Almost 1L kms now.
Some people may call it a duster but it has its own uniqueness, and so so fast. Stage 1 chip tune.
Absolutely great service too. Pune.
Thanks for sharing that! And hope that run carries on! All the best.
@@motorincthat hope hits hard in your comments 😂
@@MrDrone-qt6sw I could go on and on about how amazing the terrano and duster platform really, is, only those who have owned one would know. if you do proper preventive maintenance and servicing then there would be almost no injector/other issues(same applies for most cars but people neglect the basics). anyway, this car is a hidden gem and it shall stay that way. Sadly, while even the base xtrail may still be above the rest in dynamics and drivability, it is priced really badly and will probably go unnoticed.
@@louaieayyash5158 Hello there 😬
I have Magnite , people seriously underestimate Nissan for their service and products. Hands down the best vehicles and prompt service from Pune service station.
Yes, global manufacturers take us Indians for granted. We recently bought a VW Tiguan. When the vehicle was driven before the India specific software was installed, the blind spot indicators on the ORVMs were working. Once the software was uploaded, the blind spot warning stopped working. Now the dealer says that the Tiguan does not have the blind spot warning system. Just imagine a global manufacturer wilfully disabling a safety feature and saying it does not exist.
🤨 What! They took out a feature after you bought it?
@@sureshpadathara23 hey I own a Tiguan. The current generation Tiguan does not come with blind spot monitoring at all.
I first misread it as Taigun and was shocked. Then I realized its Tiguan and they did that to a 40+L car, I was speechless.
Well actually the price doesnt matter... what they have done is beyond ridiculous. And what you say is true. Foreign brands, (including Japanese) looking down on the Indian market is a real thing and its high time we strictly stuck to Indian brands like Mahindra, TVS, Bajaj etc, just like how japanese and korean people strictly buy cars of their homegrown brands only.
34:45 - "Panoramic sunroof to throw two children out" 🤣🤣
The deadpan delivery gets me everytime!
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To me it just feels like Nissan offloading their deadstock to India. If they wanted to have a halo car they could have brought the 400z or ariya.
Man the breaking of the 4th wall from Shumi and Singhee is sooo funny 😂
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I think its called breaking the fourth wall only when the 'actors' on stage or screen separate themselves from the audience through their performance, pretending to be unaware of the camera or the crowd, and then 'break' it by turning to the audience/camera. Here they aren't actors, and aren't unaware of the camera. In fact they're directly talking to us. So technically, there's no wall being broken.
@@danny_joseokay, Boomer.
@@meetankushsit down kid ... Its board exams this year
34:44 I would throw one child from one side and catch from the other. 😂 Shumi's digs on sunroofs are always so funny.
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Nissan made a breakthrough with the Magnite and now they will break through with the Xtrail.
Exactly opposite approaches.
The ICE reminds me of the Safari's first unit.
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Thumbnail image makes Karthikeya look like a rapper 🙃
Oh! Thanks @kedarterwad6!
Your sarcasm is hilarious guys😂
It’s a cross to bear at times. 🤣
A lot of the discussion surrounding the X trail is that these 150 units are stock clearance units being sent here.
Regarding the hybrid, apparently the battery faces issues given extreme ambient conditions. That being the major reason Nissan didn’t bring it to India- because our conditions vary a lot and can be very extreme.
If that’s the case then that’s half baked too.
@@motorincthey are clearing off the stocks. Here in north america we already got an updated model. The one Nissan selling in india is previous model
that shouldn't be the case as product launches are expensive affairs...could be easily higher than the costs of selling those 150 units.
@Kulinah if that's the case they wouldn't have gone for base model . Atleast they could have gone for out and out top spec model. Nissan has been doing blunders after blunders in india. No surprise why they launched xtrail only with 150 units and that too through cbu.
6:20-6:23
Seeing glimpses of Kartikeya's Dad Mode😂😂😂😂😂
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When a car review comes Shumi is like chalo maza lete hai
Always!
49 lakh onroad 1.5 lit turbo 3 cylinder, for a 7 seater Taxi 😂.
Ex showroom 50lk, on road 60lakh plus 😂
Drum roll…
These Japanese brands should hire Kartikeya and Shumi as their board members.
What I understand from other publishings or motor channels , this is a variant which was not popular / did not sell well in the UK market due to emission taxation laws and is been (150 units ) shoved /dumped down India’s throat as an aspirational product . Not sure how authentic is the information. If yes then I am appalled by the audacity of these manufacturers.
Mr SM, we don’t have any confirmation on this. With or without it the product is disappointing enough. 😣
Suddenly Jeep Compass started making a lot of sense, Practically too!!
Talk about unintended consequences @asitpatadia2646!😆
let me talk about Nissan.
I was hellbent in getting the nissan kicks 1.3l turbo, it looked awful, had no features, felt like the word premium left the chat. Yet i wanted the car for the engine, for the sheer joy of driving.
4 months of having being run around by all of the service dealers in Bangalore, i saw a report of 0 kicks being sold over the last 4 months.
My wife was the happiest. She was ready to leave me if i had got the kicks.
Yes i was that hell bent on that car.
Listened to my wife instead, got a Slavia. 2 years later having driven all over the country, i saw just 1 kicks, that too the 1l one.
Guess Nissan really dont know what they are doing apart from just being happy with Magnite. (Good car no doubt).
This X-trail is nothing but a mockery of themselves.
The lady in your life deserves many more thanks SC! 😁
Not sure if you guys had already thought about this, but you should have this podcast in front of live audience. Your podcasts are funny, full of wisdom and honest.
Live audience? Why @kt4092?
@@motorinc it will be instant feedback for you guys and will be fun i guess ?
@@motorinc This is a really good idea, format can be something else maybe not reviews.
True..its Japanese what Toyota and Nissan are doing in the Indian market. They are just relying on their Japanese-born engineering*, instead of bringing their global products in the market, especially Nissan. They literally have now 2 models to sell in India. In Nepal, though being a far smaller market Nissan launched the X-Trail e-power with 144hp 1.5ltr petrol engine powering a 210hp motor(4WD) last December @1.8CR and also, we have many more choices from Nissan and Toyota... the Navara, Patrol, Leaf to RAV 4, their hybrids, Corolla, Yaris, Rush, etc
Thanks for sharing Siman! We hope some of these make it across the border. 😅
@@motorinc not sure about the vehicles but I might for sure make it across the border😅😅 dont wanna pay 250% tax on import for a car here in Nepal
Toyota be like : fortuner के दाम बढ़ाने पड़ेंगे compition हमसे आगे निकल गया है 😂😂
🤣🤣 We hope not!
34:45 the point where ur summary just scored an 11/10. That level of sarcasm 😂😂😂
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Thank you ssahh!
@@motorinc First Impressions of Curvv next up?
All we can say now is stay tuned!😄
Haha the last 5 mins when conversation shifted to Magnite, I completely forgot that I came in here for X-trail, that's how uninteresting the car sounds. :P
Hey ST, let’s hope they do justice to the Magnite facelift.
That "so clever" by Shumi was hilarious
You guys can easily pull an India MotorInc talkshow Tour. I’d definitely pay to see one!
1:25 I would sell all my possessions and buy a GTR if they ever sold it at that price, but I don't know what I'll do after I buy it there's a big speed breaker at the entrance of my neighborhood
And then you’d be behind us in queue! 😁
So true 😀
Hecc even a 40 lakh 400z would turn a bit of their fortunes around here
Here’s a car no one bought a mild hybrid version of in uk so they are selling it here in twice the price ..calling it a cbu…and then the company is wondering why they aren’t doing well in India
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With all honesty, I was like this must be an old video, but then I was like Motorinc was no there in 2k14.
That thumbnail though. Kartikeyas' expressions gave it all up. 😆
I love how Shumi is all smiles and laughs in the beginning of the video in the anticipation of what's coming next from Karthik.😂
That's just Shumi getting ready to listen with intent!
Quality audience for quality videos
I cry every time I visit websites of Japanese brands abroad.
The way Karthik is explaining the X-trail. It feels like he is telling me the horror atmosphere near the haunted house and preparing our mind to expect the unexpected when entering the haunted house.
Oh that's easy! This is a haunted house you shouldn't even enter @nijojose4210. Thanks to the sky high entry prices.
after listening to this, I want to add some historical context to why Nissan’s reliability is always in question.
Shumi referred to this in the ThisConnect episode about Japan but let me bring it here. Mid 80’s-early 90’s is when Japan had a major economic AND cultural boom. This was also when the JDM as we know it brought about the cars we fawn after. After this period, Japan brought out economic policies that basically popped the bubble they existed in, causing downturn of investment. They literally didn’t have the ability to make the “world-beater-in-tech” cars because the money dried up. Nissan, in comparison to Toyota, for example, didn’t have the money to sustain their “high quality ancillary parts” ecosystem. For a long time in the 90’s, their cars barely had any change. Then in the late 90’s, their financials showed red. Meaning that if they continued doing what they did, they would cease to exist. So, in came the Renault deal. And Carlos Ghosn. If it wasn’t for his cost cutting measures and sub-contracting parts deals to external OEM’s at a lower rate than what Nissan used to do, Nissan would have expired way back. But this deal and Carlos’ price cutters resulted in many an issue. The prime issue was CVT problems and engines going wrong. They had to deal with class action lawsuits for the same. And most of the cars ended up as fleet vehicles in US and EU. So, they were designated to the “bargain bin” section immediately. There is an “episode-series” by Donut Media about why Nissan sucks and I think it’s a necessary watch to understand why Nissan is operating the way they are.
Hey @neerajkarunanidhi6804! Thanks for the extra knowledge. 😅 Appreciate it!
The part where Shumi mentioned about tossing out the children via the panoramic sunroof was way more exhilarating than the Nissan Xtrail 😂 by the way the summary was a 10 on 10 and so was the first impressions, spot on as always.
Thank you Nil!
Do you guys remember the Nissan Micra? We got the diesel in 2013 and I've learned to drive in that car and love it. I hope Nissan finds success in India. Any competition is good competition.
Oh sweet! Thanks for sharing that VM! That was a spacious and quick car! Still have it?
Those starting 10sec in 1st thing 1st are really dope. So minimalistic with white and blue combination. Kudos to the layout editors❤
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03:07 That expression!
It's totally like that one friend getting ready to listen to all the gossip 😅
Summary rating - 10/10
How do you guys do this without taking notes? Insane skills!
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Nissan also has the Patrol, which is globally appreciated, super popular in the gulf, and actually came in the news some time back because a popular actor bought it.
3:48 shumi & kartikeya comic expressions😂😂. Somebody make motorinc sticker collection
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Although I am not impressed with the Xtrail's pricing, there are still not many options in that price range with a petrol engine. Tucson, Kushaq and Tiguan. The later two are still sold in their previous generation versions. I wish we had Mazda CX5, Mitsubishi Outlander or CRV in India.
We're getting the Kodiaq soon @taurus50000 which might mean that the Tiguan is on its way too. But yes, having more options definitely wouldn't hurt!
Will Nissan survive in India ? Should I sell off my 2021 Nissan Magnite Turbo CVT ? I LOVE the car for the value for money aspect.
Nissan have the perfect sports car, the Z that they can mark upto 60L and keep in showrooms as a Halo car😇
at least it's pretty!
Would work better!
Summary 10/10 and the excitement of knowing somethingbnew is coming up is cool.way to go.
Stay tuned! 😁
Shumi goes on a blitzkrieg of summarizing the video.. awesome
Hello guys, great work as usual.
Would love to see a podcast on car/bike etiquettes for both passengers and drivers . Passengers and even drivers can get annoying sometimes and create a distraction putting everyone at risk. Would love to hear your take on this.
Noted @ak8630! Thank you for joining us for this one.
Really want to know the insight of the person's thought process who decided to bring X-Trail to India with this config and these many numbers. 99% logical people will not buy it thinking how will nissan support 150 owners with parts and service, whoever buys one needs to be prepared for keeping the car in the service station for number of days during parts change or physical damage.
It seems somebody in higher management of nissan just saw the movie Welcome and got impressed by the dialogue of Feroz Khan "abhi hun zinda hai". Then Bam!! We have the X-trail.
Kartikeya's expression during Thar Roxx should be captured and used during the promotion the sales will surely double.
Heya RR! We’ll keep that in mind. 🤣
I was waiting for the fortuner to come up in this conversation and as I expected, it did.
Ouch! This makes triber look even better.
We respect the Triber.
40:58 - Aaayyeez Brilliant!
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Talking about the ride and handling, instead of giving a binary adjective its good/bad, it will be better if you mention any benchmark car. Of course separate benchmarks for ride, handling and balance of ride & handling. Cheers.
Hey DB! This was a strange kind of conversation where the idea, the lack of the power in it, overshadowed the car. We get what you want. Thanks for letting us know. 🙏🏾
@@motorincYeah. Totally get it👍🏼
I would happily get a MG Gloster instead of this. That’s an underrated gem. Hope they invite you guys for its facelift launch.
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If only 150 units, why not do CKD instead of CBU. Would the build be that much more expensive or could that be considered a test bench for production? Or even an SKD?
All valid questions that we don't have an answer for @JK58_!🤷🏾♂️
*"Shumi & his sunroofs"* a better romance than Twilight Saga!😂😂😂
Is this your idea of romance @ArunSapaare?🤣
You know its a good day when you hear the MotorInc First intro music in the morning!😁❤
How goes!
This is japan's problem of their perception of India's automotive market, if not of India itself.
Not only have they brought a below par car and overpriced it but blamed it on us saying this is the kinda of car we as a market want, which is definitely not true.
And the last time we had a good japanese bike was R15 v1 and that for the cars was city gen 1 and 2.
High time we moved on from japanese manufacturers, just like they do there.
Just came here to have fun.... already know it's gonna be fun....
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What an awesome looking vehicle - Me in 2010.
The X trail seriously trails in the front design department. Its almost good and Im all in for the retro aspect but this has got a serious dated appeal ! And i’m not even talking about the engine or the features. Cars like this make my i20 look so much more vfm 😂
Well, at least it lives up to the name @Ashes-9!
I bought the Nissan Magnite Last year top spec and I absolutely love it. Yeah for sure 5 years later I will have to install an after market infotainment screen. I hope with the facelift they make it even better.
Glad to hear that @iamsidd_j! We look forward to the Magnite too, even more so now.
shumi's summary on the car is 10/10 but not the car itself.
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im late to the part but Karthikeyas voice of concern at 5:18. Damn
It is painful to see this happen.
3:07 petition to add this shumi's expression on their motorinc merch
Gotta make it happen!
CBU cars is daydreaming, The Govt. Charges 100% tax (24lakh price+24 lakh import tax= 48 lakh ex showroom) and then extra taxes which goes uptill 52lakh on road. But think once if we can get this car in 25-26 lakh on road without import taxes. An ultimate smart new breed of engine.
Excellent Discussion! Probably Nissan guys can’t read Kodiaq Brochure as it’s in English 😀😀. We can expect Toyota Hillix like massive discount to clear the stock!!
Hey VV, how big the discount should be for it to be sweet? 😃
It's currently 57 lakhs on road. Will need a discount of 20 lakhs at least to be reasonable lol
I have been working in Malaysia for a while now. Just to give everyone a perspective what Karthik mentioned, the Nissan gives different model options and all are global standards. It is considered one of the top tier brand.
Nissan is missing greater opportunities by not launching different products or localising the production. They should have courage in delivering better value products.
Awesome content asusual.
Thanks RM for giving us the perspective from another geography! Hope all well.
Guyzz bring the cars to the studio, it will be much more exciting.
Big fan kartheekya
We didn't get one @sidhant7923!
They should have brought in the Patrol, and like Karthikeya said, taken a price hit and launched it as the Halo product.
Poor poor Karthik. 😂 It's like Nissan laughed right at our face.
I smile at the thought of Karthik desperately trying to make sense of the car.
He needs R&R after this.
I may be wrong, but I don't think this is uploaded on the RSS podcast feed. My podcast app (pocket casts) wasn't able to show this episode. Has anyone faced the same issue?
I think we need a special episode just talking about the shoes you wear!!
Nissan X-Trail in my city Pune is on-road Rs. 59.29 Lakh and for chennai its a Rs. 62.67 Lakh car like what 😮💨
Yep 😑
At the year end I want a compilation of all the dad jokes by shumi. Tharro dad jokes are fire
Sounds like a nice idea but would be overwhelming, probably!🤣
@@motorinc probably 🤣
The name is actually "X to Trail" which signifies that you can go anywhere with it... Everyone misses this 😅
That trail isn’t gonna be very far or long in India. 😑
Touchscreen is taken from Kicks units.. which was used in production....
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Do let us know your on the new Tata Curvv, can't wait to hear what you guys have to say to make my decision on if I am gonna buy it or not
Please stay tuned @100kamalkrishna
No matter how good it drives, is it worth 2 mahindra XUV 700 Ax7L all wheel drive. 😅 Nissan, sayonara!!
@@prateekjain5236 To hell with that man. It's the old gen when the rest of the world gets an updated model.
Not worth 80% of XUV pricing for that alone. This is before we get to how horrible the rest of it is.
Hey Prateek, the basic practicality is compromised. That’s the downer.
Well i would be surprised if they managed to sell those 150 units .. Nissan should asks its employees would they buy this car even if given 20% discount?? if they can not , how can they expect any customer for this car
How much discount is needed?
@@motorinc i think around 50% ,but around 25 lacs also provides way better interior than this car so only enthusiast will buy this
I saw a Nissan Patrol in Mumbai. It looks crazy and HUGE desirability quotient compared to the X Trail 2:59
Totally!
VCR engines would have a huge tuning potential.
What is the mic setup you guys use? You guys have a brilliant team overall. love the packaging as much as the content. good job guys!
Thanks RPO! Will pass that on to the team. Means a lot.
06:46 thank you so much for highlighting this points. Almost all the TH-camrs were going gaga over this car and ignored the Price and the Engine completely. 3-Cylinder engine car at 45L 😂😂😭
They were going ga-ga?
Summary rating: 9
My thoughts: I feel that the Xtrail occourance is actually to grab the market of Fortuner. As one can see both these cars don't do well with feature set and connectivity but the sense of presence is what makes people buy them for most cases. The pricing also seems to hint that and hence it is not competing with Innova thereby 50L pricetag.
Ok lets talk engine since that is what is the main usp of Fortuner.
Nissan is offering a 1.5L 3 cylinder petrol engine that produces 163 ps and 300 NM.
Fortuner, though available in Petrol and Diesel, people mainly buy in Diesel engine that is 2.8L 4 cylinder producing 201 bhp and 500 NM of torque.
I am sorry but this isnt even a comparison.
X Trail is not there for selling X Trail but to improve the brand positioning and help other cars sell. Nobody in their right frame of minds is going to buy this car at that price.
Hey K! It’s not positioned well enough.
Would have loved to see Shumi's reaction once he gets to know the ex showroom price as 50 Lacs. In my state that would be around 63 Lacs including all taxes and insurance.
His reaction was a lot like that GIF of so many people facepalming at once @ananthepilot.😂
At least if they would have priced it correctly, 25-30 lacs or something ex-showroom, I mean it would definitely have an advantage over its competitors, just like the magnite
This is more confusing Motorinc first than C3 Aircross. That car was atleast priced well and have new features lately and it drove really well. What is this ex-trail thingy anyway? Couldn't agree more with you guys.
Tough cars to make sense of. But, the C3 Aircross has just been updated. 😆
@@motorinc yeah 💯
Guess I’ll stick to my 2023 Kodiaq. After the X-Trail, my car feels like a VFM buy 🤣. Great video as always chiefs! Love from Bangalore!
The whole take away for me from this convo is 'soccer mom' - HAWT 🔥🔥
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Someone I know
Has the 1st & 2nd gen in their garage till date & are run around frequently.
Hey @makeitnik! Thanks for sharing. What do they think of this new one?
2 questions
- so when you buy a hybrid car the company doesnt give you a warranty on that battery used in the car for making it hybrid?
- like now Tata is launching diesel cars and also other other companies too so like does this give assurance that deisel will be there for atleash another 10 years (for the span of life of car) and what if the government bans diesel in that time who will be responsible.
They don’t give guarantees that diesels will be around for 10 years. There is a warranty on the battery tech.
I was also hyped for this xtrail and was watching japnese and other country version. I was totally excited to expect the e4orce tech and was very keen on hoping into it and letting my opinion of EV out of my mind forever. And what you get in India, ICE that drives the wheels.
I dont feel a need to watch this review as it has totally disappointed me. But for the first few minutes into the video and the opinions of Shumi has made me watch it for fun. 😅
Well, we thank you for watching @sachinhosmani1788.
New Z might be a perfect fit in that case
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