Why would ANYBODY use one of these??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2024
- Today we have Michael Roberts from CMR Fabrications in the shop, and we are discussing the advantages of using a pancake welding hood, and why they are still widely used today.
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And it looks like it protects your eyes from sparks better then anything I've ever seen
Haven't had a spark come near my eyes or ears wearing this!
Bradley Putnam it does as long as you sand it down right
Thanks for the info...i was wondering why they were used, makes sense about the light coming in through the back of the helmet and reflecting off the lens. Light weight also makes a lot of sense.
Hey I have heard that name before! Just caught a minute to watch this video, awesome interview! I love my CMR hood and this channel.
There's Collin! A supporter since day one! Thanks brother *fan girling*
After a year I've gotten 2 pancakes one a flip front and one a flat front ..... I used to swear off auto I found the arc one hd works for in shops but outside I go passive gold shade 10 lense
Best explanation 👍
I just ordered my first CMR pan cake Gen. 2 today
Good information. Might try one some day. Thanks.
I would highly recommend it! Let me know when you do!
I guarantee you ever try one you will love it!!
jim C they are amazing I used to use fab hoods but I got headaches neck pains and such but never had any trouble with my cake
Much rather use a full face respirator with clip on flip up and nomex hood. Done it for years welding submarine hull butts , tanks and penetrations.
Mine is actually quite good with a P100 on.
I don't understand why it has to be shaped that way.
Why not just use the eye enclosure concept with a regular shape hood?
It's lighter, deflects the sparks off better.
@@billmcyrus
I doubt it.
This could make an interesting video: have someone do some fill passes and caps with sparks flying everywhere or stand next to some grinding sparks and show what both look like deflecting the sparks. Actually test it out to see.
@@billmcyrus
I don't need to.
I've been welding since 1987, since 1993 professionally...I've built bridges, dams, tunnels, pipelines, power plants, and steel frame buildings.
Never had an issue with sparks using a Selstrom flip shield, or a Miller, or Jackson, or any regular style hood for that matter.
A pancake doesn't even cover the top of your head, and only covers one side.
If you've got welders burning rod next to you, (which is common) you're gonna be one flash burned son of a b**** by the end of a shift.
Personally, I think they're shaped like that because its easier to manufacture, and it just became fashionable.
Pipeliners are notorious dandies.
I broke down and bought a Wendy’s 2 months ago after 20 years of welding. I love mine.
Whats the best night time welding helmet?
Do you have a problem with it fogging up when it's hot and you're sweating?
Any that let light in the back compromises your vision.
A run of the mill air feed will do the same, as well as stopping you breathing in all the crap and fumes too
I've used air feeds, but they are always bulky and get in my way. This seemed to be a decent alternative!
A papr hood is awesome, i have one i use always in the shop, but hate to take it out in the dust and dirt or rain, 1400+ bucks vs 120 ish for a pancake
where i can buy one here in the philippines?
Hello i m in France and i want order a pancake left hand.... where i can order a good one ....in USA ....thx
I hear you they seem like they got that purpose but what about welding overhead don't the Sparks jump behind you and burn your face? I weld on boilers
I've never had issues welding with a pancake overhead. It sends to make them bounce off and miss me completely! But I've only used this hood for maybe 2 hours total, welding overhead. Most of what I do is horizontal or vertical.
The side shield protects you on overhead.
Pipeliners use it cause it covers the ear completely when you are welding so sparks wont go down in it and it also keeps the light from coming in from behind
Correct!
Yeah It’s called a hat. My hat covers my ear just fine, Welders just use it to feel different
Michael Smith Lol no we use welding caps under our pancakes too. Pancakes are just better all around for people who weld pipe. Only people who weld pipe would understand.
Mixboy10thst lol 😂. whatever you say dude.
It’s all about blocking the sun from causing a reflection
I want one it's so cool
They're pretty dang awesome!
I'd love one but I'm a shop/fab welder and I'm also ambidextrous so I weld both ways all day. If those pancakes had two sides it would be perfect for what I do.
They do have an ambidextrous model now!
where can i buy “pancake” with delivery to Russia?
is it bad to have your welder a little off balanced , like leaning to one side or being used while on a hill ?
Not at all, as long as the air movement for cooling is unobstructed!
@@letsfabricate5388 thanks , i knew it my bosses say i will break the welder if its leaning , i didnt believe them
This too!☝️ I didn't even think about engine driven welding machines on this!
So here's a question: does the box basically excuse the need for safety glasses, or are there some that are slimmed down to fit in with this? I'll be working in a shop where they're pretty big on them.
It depends, but Austin Ross welding has found a glasses company that fits good under a pancake so watch a couple of his videos and you’ll find it
In the shop I find the multiple lights to be really worse than the one sun that's in the outside world.
@@mrillis9259 Me too, that's why I love mine so much.
Who makes that denim work shirt? Thanks.
Southern Colorado hats company makes them!
@@letsfabricate5388Thanks.
Does anyone supply these to the UK?
Yes! CMR Fabrications will ship them to the UK! Check them out at cmrfabrications.com
@@letsfabricate5388 Thank you
@@erisi6204 you are more than welcome my friend!
What’s a good auto darkening Lens to go with this hood
I use the "singles HD" auto darkening lense. Super crisp and clear!
Evan Witt the ark 1 is a very good auto dark lens it’s one of my faves
Any as long as it measures 2x4
Definitely the ArcOne singles is my choice as well. There are other options too but once I tried it I haven't wanted anything else.
If it doesn’t fog up with us people that ware glasses be a huge improvement
How’s it work with a respirator??
It doesn't fit a respirator super well, but when I'm welding outside, I don't typically wear one.
Miller P100 fits well actually. You might have to adjust the sanding slightly to make it perfect but I wear one with mine and it's comfortable and functional.
How much for the paper helmet?
Paper?
Even in a workshop with lighting can set off auto darkening helmets
how much cost that paper one?
Paper?
only good if you're a pipeliner. pretty useless if you're doing anything but welding pipeline lol
The difference they make welding in a shop is huge! Keep all the background light out!
@@letsfabricate5388 what background light? A shop has very little compared to being outside! At least from what I've experienced. I'd much rather have a classic flip up helmet than a pancake for every day use lol
@@adamw.6488 just the shop lights, reflection off the ceiling, light coming in from the garage door being open, pretty much any light. Huge difference being outside, and in a shop, but I'm constantly doing both, so I tend to use the pancake more than I thought I would. I still use a flip up hood about half the time.
There is a lot of outside welding work that isn't pipeline. Farm work (fences and gates, etc), equipment repair, bridges, tanks, towers-- the list is long.
@@billmcyrus i'm aware, but those aren't xray or super critical.. and most of those require lots of grinding, so again, a pancake wouldnt be my first choice. I'd rather a straight up old flip up hood when i'm going from welding / buffing / grinding all day.
I get why pipeliners use this. They face one side up, and you can get a right or left. But elsewhere, it’s a hassle often. I bought one, to see what it’s like, but I found that when getting close to a complex piece of work, the face is way too wide to get close enough. Vision is more limited than the more advanced helmets, and if you bang the helmet against the work, or support, it really hurts! There’s no resilient headgear between you and the wood. If you need to turn around, you need to get the one for the other side, or your head is unprotected. Pipelining is different, because you’re always facing the same way, and you generally only weld in spurts during the day. That is, one pipe weld, for anywhere from 10 minutes to maybe 45 minutes to an hour, including the time grinding between the welds, and then waiting, often for a few hours, until they set the other weld up for you. Maybe as many as 4 welds a day, rarely 5.
So it’s great for what it’s designed to do, but unless you’re just welding flat on a table, I find it a bit clumsy, though it is light. In contrast, my ESAB A50 weighs 24 ounces, and my secondary ESAB Warrior weighs 18 ounces. Neither really feels heavy, though the A50 does, a bit, when it’s up. 32 ounces is a really heavy helmet. Which one is it?
I run the esab a50 with a penny weld hoodwoofer set up. It's heavy but very comfy and very clear. This pipeliner beats everything I've used, as far as clarity, in or out of the shop. The size does take some getting used to, but the learning curve is very mild. I love an esab flip up, but this hood is comfy!
Cause pipeline welders use pancakes. Simple as that. Real welders.
Let’s talk about how this hood is conductive and can arc lol.
Carbon fiber.? I don’t think that’s how that works...
Tre Brown you don’t think but I’m not here interested in how you think. It’s in the description.
david martin thats fine im just trying to figure out how cotton and epoxy are conductive. You know because its non metallic and cant conduct electricity... lol
Tre Brown I agree on you with that but If you go to their website, you’ll see that on the description they state it conducts electric waves. So it’s a fact not here say. But yea check it out for yourself
Couldn't find anything comfier than wood, jeez.
"Head fatigue" lol. You wuss!
Seems like a silly trend honestly...
Just a fad for pipe welders. His advantage points for the pancake welding hood were baseless, in most of his explanations. How about getting one side of face bombarded with UV and infrared rays all day? Cancer will eat you. You become like those old truck drivers where one side of their face is all damaged from the sun. Strangest faces to see, after all that sun damage. Sure don't want to end up with a pancake face, myself. LOL
Seems like a long shot, but input is input!
"Just a fad" Buddy, pancake hoods have been used since 1966. Awful long time to just be a fad.
Rob Murphy Whomever wants to use it, feel free. 👍🏼. One still needs to use a hand to adjust and remove that helmet. Normal helmets have been around even longer, to be a fad. :) The regular helmet still provides a bunch of helpful benefits compared to this.
Sugar scoops are more for fabrication and pancake hoods are for pipewelding on the line.