I highly recommend the following (e-)book in case you want to gain an in-depth knowledge about BPMN. Click here to buy it on amazon: amzn.to/3UJ9no6 I've read this book too and it is the foundation my knowledge is based on. This link is my personal affiliate link, this means in case you are buying this book I get a comission which supports this channel without you having additional costs! Thank you so much :)
I guess everyone wants to make their job look as complex and important as it’s possible so people from the outside will go WTF whenever they are being told anything unless they decide to research it on their own
have a job interview tomorrow in morning. i did not expect to get an interview about bpmn. i have no foundations. super good video.hope interview goes well.
Really good video, thanks. One thing that I'm not sure if it's a BPMN thing or just something you did, but you referred to the X gateway as "either or". In Software we usually refer to that as the Exclusive Or, which is (I think) more in line with what it actually means. You can only pick one path and that choice *excludes* the other paths. In American English at least, "either or" is how we colloquially would say that you can do both/many paths, so it might confuse some American viewers.
Awesome explanation. I have a scenario like a customer order is there and I’ll have to look for whether it’s a future dated order or not if yes then I’ll have to hold the order until the schedule day comes and then process the order downstream for the other task to take place. How could I proceed, could you please help?
Here's what I'd do: 1. Activity "Check date" 2. XOR Gateway "Is future dated?" 3. IF no => proceed with next step 4. IF yes => timer event with target date of execution => once date occured execute downstream acitivity
@@theagilebusinessanalyst but isn't it semantically incorrect? (I agree it looks tidier than a double penetration tho) EDIT: on second thought, it would be fine, there's no gateway that would block the process.
I'm not sure where I said it in this video, but you're right. BPMN is a standard notation. We can use BPMN to model the business processes and then implement them with agile methodologies.
Good point, I missed it. Indeed, if the amount would have been 99, then NO condition of the OR gateway would evaluate to true, hence the process would get stuck. That's why it makes sense to define a default path out of our OR gateway, to ensure, if no other condition is met, that the default path will run. The default path is something like an "ELSE" statement.
I think you need a more relatable real-life example, not just a call and email. Eg. Use fills out Web form AND identification docs received from customer via email.
Please use real life cases. A loan cannot be $ 1 000 000 or not $ 1 000 000. A bank responds to a request with exact amount specified. Instead you could use an example of ice cream of chocolate availability in store. Or availability of connectivity in store to pay with cash or debit card.
I highly recommend the following (e-)book in case you want to gain an in-depth knowledge about BPMN.
Click here to buy it on amazon: amzn.to/3UJ9no6
I've read this book too and it is the foundation my knowledge is based on.
This link is my personal affiliate link, this means in case you are buying this book I get a comission which supports this channel without you having additional costs! Thank you so much :)
Can you plese send a new link to the book or its name? cant open(
oh dear the inclusive to me still looks similar than exclusive, am I dumb
To be honest, i have watched many videos about gateways but you explain it in the most simplest way. Really appreciate it
Thanks for your comment 🙏
Thanks for this video it helps a lot
Great explanation...people either over complicate it or over simplify it, you've hit the sweat spot...you have an awesome channel...keep going
Your comment made my day :)
I guess everyone wants to make their job look as complex and important as it’s possible so people from the outside will go WTF whenever they are being told anything unless they decide to research it on their own
What a fantastic video! I loved the practical examples and the simulation of the process with the form! Great explanations of fairly complex concepts!
Glad it helped!
It’s like you know i needed the explanation
Thank you !
Great connection with my audience ;)
Greetings from Greece and thank you for that brillant Video. Helps me finishing my Bachelor
Greetings from Switzerland! Was is your thesis about? Good luck for your bachelor thesis!
Great video 👌 It was really easy to understand. Thank you so much 👍
Oustanding intro to BPMN, thank you
Glad you like it!
In OR gateway example what is the flow if the loan amount is less than 100 ?
have a job interview tomorrow in morning. i did not expect to get an interview about bpmn. i have no foundations. super good video.hope interview goes well.
The best of luck! How did it go?
@@theagilebusinessanalyst mfs did reject
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I was not so clear about the gateways. This video helped me.
Glad I could help :)
Gutes Video! Du hast dir sehr viel Mühe gegeben und das Thema verständlich erklärt!
Danke dir :)
Well explained ! 💯
Glad it helped
very practical and time saver, thx so much!
You're welcome!
Really good video, thanks. One thing that I'm not sure if it's a BPMN thing or just something you did, but you referred to the X gateway as "either or". In Software we usually refer to that as the Exclusive Or, which is (I think) more in line with what it actually means. You can only pick one path and that choice *excludes* the other paths. In American English at least, "either or" is how we colloquially would say that you can do both/many paths, so it might confuse some American viewers.
Excellent explanation!
Glad I could help :)
Great explanation! my school sucks 😄
glad I could help!
Very Helpful, Thank you.
wow. so nice. u got one subscriber.
I appreciate the support!
easy to understand, thank you!
Glad it helped!
simple, great starter
I'm glad you found it helpful!
Thanks for the nice explanation.
Awesome explanation. I have a scenario like a customer order is there and I’ll have to look for whether it’s a future dated order or not if yes then I’ll have to hold the order until the schedule day comes and then process the order downstream for the other task to take place. How could I proceed, could you please help?
Youse an event gateway or a timer.
Here's what I'd do:
1. Activity "Check date"
2. XOR Gateway "Is future dated?"
3. IF no => proceed with next step
4. IF yes => timer event with target date of execution => once date occured execute downstream acitivity
How to get Flowable?
Which site can use for same exercise
you could go to bpmn.io to draw BPMN models. Unfortunately you cannot execute them like I did, but for modeling purposes it's fine.
Try camunda web modeler- its free
useful 😍
Thank you so much
You’re welcome ☺️
Do i have to end a gateway with another gateway or are there moments where this doesnt happen?
You dont‘t have to. But often times it enhances the clarity of the model and helps in avoiding modeling mistakes
@@theagilebusinessanalyst but isn't it semantically incorrect? (I agree it looks tidier than a double penetration tho)
EDIT: on second thought, it would be fine, there's no gateway that would block the process.
You are right: there should be an arrow to a straight line.
which software or website it is?
I used flowable.
which app you used here
I used Flowable.
How the hell is BPMN supposed to be agile? Serious question
I'm not sure where I said it in this video, but you're right. BPMN is a standard notation. We can use BPMN to model the business processes and then implement them with agile methodologies.
I work in Agile I never use bpmn specifically. But I do use flow charts with decision points.
0:45 How the hell is that globe supposed to spin? The axis is broken.
Thanks for the video, clear explanation! But tbh, lowkey feel like this Bpmn process is powerfully useless…
In the demo of the OR ... Next time show what happens if the amount is BELOW 100, then the process stops, I assume ...
Good point, I missed it. Indeed, if the amount would have been 99, then NO condition of the OR gateway would evaluate to true, hence the process would get stuck. That's why it makes sense to define a default path out of our OR gateway, to ensure, if no other condition is met, that the default path will run. The default path is something like an "ELSE" statement.
that thumbnail is attrocious and I was definitely expecting some indian guy
I was expecting some proper brainrot tiktok stuff lol
I think you need a more relatable real-life example, not just a call and email. Eg. Use fills out Web form AND identification docs received from customer via email.
if i may, this tutorial is great, but the hand that draws all the things is actually really distracting and kinda annoying
Will exclude the hand in the future
Hi sir, I have assignment for Fundamentals of Business Process Management, regarding a bank loan, could you please help me ?
2:50 Level of automation should be directed upwards for growing - change task positions and arrow direction.
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Please use real life cases. A loan cannot be $ 1 000 000 or not $ 1 000 000. A bank responds to a request with exact amount specified. Instead you could use an example of ice cream of chocolate availability in store. Or availability of connectivity in store to pay with cash or debit card.
So what?
Disrespectfully, shut up
Check the loan CMMN example provided by Flowable. You'd realise that decisions can be ranged.
pls...
Please do not use those shaking hands.
will keep that in mind for future videos