As someone who works in market research (as a low-level overworked grunt), I have a lot of feelings about the part you mentioned regarding the audience becoming part of the creation process. If you ever make that 'video for another day' you mentioned here, I'd love to tell data collection horror stories about the lies the research industry tells itself and how that all influences...everything.
I honestly really love it when kids shows toe that cynical line. We shouldn't be training our kids to be jaded, but they also need breaks from constant joy and sunshine shows
AGREED. Kids need this. Just like they need tragedy and even a little bit of horror in their media, it's what helps us understand the world, and ultimately prepares us for a life within it.
Facts. The sunshine shows make kids grow up with main character syndrome or at least a hint of it. But to be fair this sort of thing is also found in some successful people
honestly spot on, working in the industry is just.. terrible. Disney says follow your dreams but forgot to put the asterisk of extremely low pay including unpaid overtime.
@@insaincaldo yah thats what i wanted to know. Why are they paid so less? And dont say anything about it? I love animation and they seem to make really good money. But the animators seem to be overworked. Sorry i wasnt more clear with my question.
@@huhulalammm They have unionized, but apparently haven't gotten allot to say still. It's a field where only the best have any real value to the studios and the rest might as well be walkins.
@@beresheethtrack oh, well I guess they break both in any case. I guess the "3rd" wall was made up to refer to a different dynamic than what the 4th wall usually refers to although it doesn't make sense in the original context.
@@karloz2722 "4th wall" is more of a metaphor when it comes to animation, but the term originally refers to when an actual actor would give hints that they're actually on a movie set instead of an actual building. The 4th wall refers to the "wall" where all of the film crew and directors are. This is my favorite example, from Fresh Prince of Belair: th-cam.com/video/iS5jqXWECbI/w-d-xo.html
@@jazzfeline5970 thanks for the comment, I know what the 4th wall means, as a matter of fact I remember the origins being in theaters, the 4th wall being the audience hence breaking the 4th wall referred to the actors addressing the audience. The term later moved to TV and it translates just as well. My comment made reference to the original comment where the OP misspoke and said 3rd wall. Since I didn't want to assume the OP had made a mistake without checking, I looked it up and some people refer to the 3rd wall as the self awareness fictional characters display when they know they're in a work of fiction and comment about it. Notice the only difference is that the characters are not addressing the audience in this scenario so although there's a difference, it doesn't make sense in the context that originated the 4th wall. Again, thanks for the explanation. I just wanted to clarify what originated my comments since the original comment was amended and share some of the things I learned. 😊
True, especially since the Internet is giving artists tools to fight back, where they just couldn't have done so before. Hazbin hotel for example, that type of show would NEVER and i mean NEVER have been able to air before the net. But look now, it exists and we all love the show for it.
I was obsessed with this show as a kid, so glad it’s back. Will definitely be checking it out. Hollywood has always romanticized itself, it’s healthy to have content pull the curtain back and openly discuss/ridicule all that
Indeed, especially for kids! We need to let kids see some of the rougher/uglier parts of society, especially all the industries they might want to join as adults. It isn't healthy to keep showing them only the shiny and interesting parts from ages 2 to 20, and then wonder why they get fed up and fizzled out of their "dream jobs" at 25.
@@DerpDerp3001 No it was definitely a kids show, that if adults caught it they would get the more nuanced jokes. It was shown after school on ch5 WB network during cartoons hour. Yeah meant for kids with older adult oriented jokes that I sort of got as a kid.
All of this also leaks over to TH-cam. Think about it. The only reason you guys really made this video was so we, the audience, would give you our undivided attention for 13 minutes. Doing so, we were subjected to advertisements which makes money for TH-cam, a small percentage of which they give you. Not to mention the paid advertisement at the beginning of the video for Keeps.
^Pretty much this (OP's comment) for all social media in general. It makes me think of Blue Stahli's Ultranumb song, which is about how we complain about the extent of various -isms society-wise but, due to how human nature is, we can't fully do much but complain about the -isms. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This has nothing to do with anything, I just want to comment that I think there's something delightful about hearing 90s cartoon sound effects in clean high definition.
"We know we're selling out so it's cool!" Ok that one got a chuckle out of me. I used to love the original show as a kid, going to have to check out this reboot.
Being "Self Aware" is a corporate trend as well. "We know we're selling out. So it's cool," might not be so much an admission of selling out as opposed to a researched punchline that the audience would favor. It may also be stating how other creative people convince themselves that, "It's okay that I'm selling out, because I know I am!"
That's exactly what I was thinking. I believe this kind of mindset really stunts the growth for any industry or art. It's pretty much saying "we know what we're doing is shitty, repetitive, not boundary pushing, etc. but since we know that it makes everything okay!" when in reality it really doesn't. This is why Deadpool 2 wasn't good. It thinks it can entertain you with letting you know how self aware it is but it doesn't offer any new ideas in the end so it's ultimately a snooze fest.
In other news I love the Animaniacs I have my whole life I rushed home from school in order to get things done in order to turn them on at 4 o’clock every single day I love them I love them I love them
I don't know about Beavis and Butthead (never watched it) but I argue the Simpsons did contribute to the adult cartoon scene due to its iconoclasm of tropes until they follow the tropes they are criticizing. Animaniacs' message remains relevant because how little it change between the 1990's and 2020...
Ren and Stimpy actually created the humor that most adult cartoons use. Fun Fact: Both Beavis and Butthead and Rick and Morty were both inspired by Ren and Stimpy.
My age is right in the Animaniacs' wheelhouse. I was in my later years of elementary school during its run, and, man, I LOVED that show. I'd watch every day after school. There were so many jokes packed into it that, yeah, some surely went over my head, but I knew they were going over my head, so it encouraged me to listen and think about the jokes and maybe to be open to older pop culture, like earlier 20th C entertainment (and the longer i watched, the fewer went over my head). It was just very stimulating and sharp. And of course, as a kid, I loved all the anvils and mallets... obviously. Looking back, i feel like it had a significant influence on me in a way that I've enjoyed.
2020 Animaniacs has surprisingly biting commentary. I went back to watch the Original when I finished it and they're like two different shows. I like them both but I feel like the new one's written for 20 somethings. It's really cool to me but I could see people hating how different it is. Idk. Anyone have any thoughts?
I have yet to watch the reboot, but from what I can tell the ratio of "adult humor/references" to more basic slapstick might be more than the original. But since there is far more content over the full span of the original, there are still just as many or more adult jokes. I think the goal was to fit as much of the more biting commentary into the reboot so as not to disappoint those who remembered all those type jokes in the original.
@@iamV10010 Yeah, but people say it's disappointing because it follows a bias Leftist agenda. Dumbasses didn't even catch that Wacko ate his, so he doesn't even have a genda!
@@TheGoldenDunsparcelol good one. But for real, I don't get people who say that. Wakko literally said he felt like the country lost its way when he saw a flyer for the Republican party in the original show, but sure, the REBOOT is the one with the "agenda". I swear nostalgia blinds people sometimes. Side note-I thought the reboot was hilarious and can't wait for more.
10:50 That doesn't make sense. That's like saying I'm an employee for buying fast food to eat. Customers are not workers unless there's actual labor in the process. Consuming the outcome of labor does not make you a worker.
I never thought I'd see someone present: "By liking something people know what we like so they make more" as a bad thought. Because the alternative would be to,... not consume media? Or not share what media we like?
I think they are suggested that for much of the history of art the act of its creation was not influenced by consumer demand or an attempt to predict what will be relevant. Ie the act of creation was more disconnected from the demands and market trends like data as in today
I think it's just one of those things where having more ignorance and margin for error actually can have positive effects. Obviously, lots of creators would NOT want to make things that people won't like; but paradoxically, what has managed to make creations more diverse and varied, including some very niche things, over time, was that they could not KNOW for sure whether they would like it or not. Imperfections and errors when it comes to art can be more fertile than 100% perfectly optimised content.
@@HaganeNoGijutsushi Very true and to your last point, if you are preoccupied with whether your media will be recieved well or not than you are also shorting yourself, because people don't actually know what they want. They might know what they like in general, but when a disruptive film comes along like Get Out than people can step back and say hey, that wasn't what I wanted or expected but damn after seeing the whole work I wouldn't have it any other way
@@christianlane1047 I agree to some extent, but I'd be hesitant to completely agree that general art expression didn't follow trends or consumer influences. Even before capitalism
I think animaniacs are right when it comes to the business aspect of the entertainment industry. I mean money is even embedded in Emmy and academy awards where companies spend millions for just the chance of getting them(even though the point of those rewards are to recognize people for their contributions to art and film). Also I really like how the animaniacs reboot blames the audience for reboots in the first place pointing out the only reason why movie and shows reboots happen is because we as nostalgia blinded consumers are willing to pay to watch the reboot in the first place(even though most people hate or at least are tired of them).
Fun fact! The Warner brothers are named for the company "Warner Bros." of course, but what's the story with Dot? She's the "dot" at the end of "bros."!
"..packs and sells your attention." said a man on my screen in a 14min video segment containing baldhead treatment promotion itself, between other ads before and after video...
Not just with influencers and social media, but something that could be said about social dynamics in general! Even without the Internet and most media inventions, there's always been an instinct to some degree of people (and many similar intelligent/group-dynamic species in general) to be conscientious about where we are within a social structure/community and act within it in some way, particularly when social hierarchies are involved.
Hell, the TH-cam algorithm is no different, by reading this and commenting/replying you add your "Attention" to this video and propel it (and the creator) further ahead.
The TV Show “Corporate” talk about exactly the point that the tv shows are going to be written by the data colected by their consumers, look it up, is an episode about the TV Show called Society Tomorrow and their own netflix
The Animaniacs reboot got real cynical about politics too. There was one Pinky & the Brain sketch where some lobbyist offered a politician guy a big check, and the politician basically said something like, "I feel like it would be unethical for me to accept this," and then they both just burst out laughing. And I'm pretty sure in that same sketch, the Brain (masquerading as a politician) made some joke about invading a South American country so he could get better coffee. It was hilarious, but also *ouch.*
This might be Wisecrack's best video in years. And I tend to like most of their videos--this one is just above the rest in a special way. Stunning work!
I'm just glad this show is coming back. I grew up loving this show and its nice to see a revival. Only show i can think of, that i actually want to see coming back with a bang. And the design is honestly closer to the original design than any other animated revival I've seen so far.
I remember seeing some discussions on a similar track a few years ago. The concept brought up was that because of the presumed expense of making a movie, TV show or any other property the person who pushes for it ends up under a lot of pressure. If it fails and was a fairly original property they often have a lot less to protect themselves with, whereas if they have a ton of market data that shows it should have worked they at least have some level of protection. This is why we might have a thousand remakes or movies based on random properties that are at least somewhat well known if only because if it bombs it's safer for the person who pushed it forward. Not to mention how many times they may just slap a differnt name and make a few changes to an existing script to fulfill a contract involving a property or something similar (see also Wanted)
10:27 When I studied marketing a couple of years back they mentioned this process and how frightening how much information a business can gather from social media alone. Fun fact within Facebook they can come up with a profile on who they think you are. CNET did a video on their channel explaining as such; as most people are wary of clicking on links the name of this video is 'Limit what Facebook shares about you.'
We don't "receive a dime" for our attention because our compensation is entertainment that in other circumstances (movie theaters, concerts, stadiums) we have to pay for. Considering how pricey those are, we are being paid a lot.
I missed the Animaniacs, and was kinda wondering why there wasn't anything "new" done with them.... Thanks for the vid, now excuse me, while I'm looking for.... Well, where to watch the "og" show.
The animaniacs reboot existence alone is already some sort of critique material that I doubt they will poke fun at. As far as I know, they made the reboot without even telling the original creator, and then went on to tell that they did
I think reading Greecoroman tragedies is essential for kids, because it instills the fear of death, which is important for a good life. Watching cartoons that are cynical about their own industry also pushes in that direction.
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As someone who works in market research (as a low-level overworked grunt), I have a lot of feelings about the part you mentioned regarding the audience becoming part of the creation process. If you ever make that 'video for another day' you mentioned here, I'd love to tell data collection horror stories about the lies the research industry tells itself and how that all influences...everything.
I’m listening 👂
👂👂👂👂
For example...
Tell us more, tell us more
Continue, please.
I honestly really love it when kids shows toe that cynical line. We shouldn't be training our kids to be jaded, but they also need breaks from constant joy and sunshine shows
I agree, coddling children too much leaves them unprepared for the uncaring nature of the real world and gives them a false sense of entitlement.
AGREED. Kids need this. Just like they need tragedy and even a little bit of horror in their media, it's what helps us understand the world, and ultimately prepares us for a life within it.
Everything went wrong after my generation. That says a lot about Animanics
Facts. The sunshine shows make kids grow up with main character syndrome or at least a hint of it. But to be fair this sort of thing is also found in some successful people
That's why this was my fave cartoon
honestly spot on, working in the industry is just.. terrible. Disney says follow your dreams but forgot to put the asterisk of extremely low pay including unpaid overtime.
Dont animated films tons of money?
@@huhulalammm You think the animators get to skim of the top of the winning ticket?
@@huhulalammm the ceo and director? Sure!
@@insaincaldo yah thats what i wanted to know. Why are they paid so less? And dont say anything about it? I love animation and they seem to make really good money. But the animators seem to be overworked. Sorry i wasnt more clear with my question.
@@huhulalammm They have unionized, but apparently haven't gotten allot to say still. It's a field where only the best have any real value to the studios and the rest might as well be walkins.
Part of why I LOVE Animaniacs is the cynicism and fourth-wall breaking. This is a perfect analysis.
Interesting, this is the first time I hear about the 3rd wall. I looked it up and learned something today. So, thanks? Haha.
@@karloz2722 I just realized that it’s actually “fourth wall” and I misspoke 😅
@@beresheethtrack oh, well I guess they break both in any case. I guess the "3rd" wall was made up to refer to a different dynamic than what the 4th wall usually refers to although it doesn't make sense in the original context.
@@karloz2722 "4th wall" is more of a metaphor when it comes to animation, but the term originally refers to when an actual actor would give hints that they're actually on a movie set instead of an actual building. The 4th wall refers to the "wall" where all of the film crew and directors are.
This is my favorite example, from Fresh Prince of Belair:
th-cam.com/video/iS5jqXWECbI/w-d-xo.html
@@jazzfeline5970 thanks for the comment, I know what the 4th wall means, as a matter of fact I remember the origins being in theaters, the 4th wall being the audience hence breaking the 4th wall referred to the actors addressing the audience. The term later moved to TV and it translates just as well. My comment made reference to the original comment where the OP misspoke and said 3rd wall. Since I didn't want to assume the OP had made a mistake without checking, I looked it up and some people refer to the 3rd wall as the self awareness fictional characters display when they know they're in a work of fiction and comment about it. Notice the only difference is that the characters are not addressing the audience in this scenario so although there's a difference, it doesn't make sense in the context that originated the 4th wall.
Again, thanks for the explanation. I just wanted to clarify what originated my comments since the original comment was amended and share some of the things I learned. 😊
You can't be too pessimistic when talking about the entertainment industry these days.
Cybermaniacs 2021
True, especially since the Internet is giving artists tools to fight back, where they just couldn't have done so before.
Hazbin hotel for example, that type of show would NEVER and i mean NEVER have been able to air before the net.
But look now, it exists and we all love the show for it.
You could've stopped at pessimistic...
These days? :-)
or about...industry in general
Bald guy in hat: "buy this product so you don't go bald and need to wear a hat"
The best sellers use their life experience to sell products
"Let me mock some dude selling you something he knows nothing about instead of telling the comments to just make informed decisions"
I heard this stuff is lethal to cats. If you wanna grow hair on your head don't let the pussy don't lick it I guess
Ill never go bald my grandad had a head full of hair when he died
@Liam McNieve nigga yo name Liam u probably had patches since a kid 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I will do my "unpaid job" in saying this: it looks like Animaniacs has the same spirit it always has. And that is awesome.
Both Animaniacs and Wisecrack are Honest and Self-aware.
@Stella Hohenheim 🐑 :D
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@@azadyadav9319 😹😹🐑
th-cam.com/video/k6GzKTVi2rE/w-d-xo.html ❤️
Mooo 🐮
I was obsessed with this show as a kid, so glad it’s back. Will definitely be checking it out. Hollywood has always romanticized itself, it’s healthy to have content pull the curtain back and openly discuss/ridicule all that
Indeed, especially for kids! We need to let kids see some of the rougher/uglier parts of society, especially all the industries they might want to join as adults. It isn't healthy to keep showing them only the shiny and interesting parts from ages 2 to 20, and then wonder why they get fed up and fizzled out of their "dream jobs" at 25.
"too pessimistic?"
"not pessimistic enough?"
Yes to both.
Wisecrack: A cartoon you may or may not remember ...
me a 34 year old: :)
We were the best generation. Look at them now... mwahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!
did you collect the mcdonald's toys too? Not that I did or anything... um, just saying.
I watched but i never understood it was a satire
:)
I literally saw this thumbnail, called my siblings and we were all still able to sing the theme song from memory. Oh, my childhood
For a show aimed primarily at kids - just about right level of pessimism.
U shuda been there man. Heady days indeed.
It was aimed towards all ages but okay.
@@DerpDerp3001 No it was definitely a kids show, that if adults caught it they would get the more nuanced jokes. It was shown after school on ch5 WB network during cartoons hour. Yeah meant for kids with older adult oriented jokes that I sort of got as a kid.
@@rra7490 But is it a kids only show or a show for kids but adults can enjoy it as well sort of show like seasons 1-3 of Spongebob?
@@DerpDerp3001 they’re arguing for the latter
"They pushed me out and maced me"
Lmao
Those are the facts
Don't mace me bro
GOD it was soo perfect
@@stephen_ SNIFF
It’s refreshing to see someone else online talking about Animaniacs instead of the Nostalgia Critic for once.
Very much so!
And someone who doesn't turn the discussion into a nostalgia-addled rant about how everything new these days suck.
I’m surprised they didn’t comment on how underpaid animators are or the insane crunch to get production finished
Did you watch the video?
8:24-9:51 Directly comments on that, for animators and others in the creative industries.
As an animator, this video is painfully relatable and somewhat therapeutic.
I swear Animaniacs is where i got my sarcasm from
Sure it was.
All of this also leaks over to TH-cam. Think about it. The only reason you guys really made this video was so we, the audience, would give you our undivided attention for 13 minutes. Doing so, we were subjected to advertisements which makes money for TH-cam, a small percentage of which they give you. Not to mention the paid advertisement at the beginning of the video for Keeps.
Lol I thought the same thing...
But they're self-aware, so that makes them cool.
Also the like comment subscribe, so you can be a worker for the TH-cam hive mind.
^Pretty much this (OP's comment) for all social media in general. It makes me think of Blue Stahli's Ultranumb song, which is about how we complain about the extent of various -isms society-wise but, due to how human nature is, we can't fully do much but complain about the -isms. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Joke's on him, I've haven't given anything my undivided attention since 04'
This has nothing to do with anything, I just want to comment that I think there's something delightful about hearing 90s cartoon sound effects in clean high definition.
"Hello nurse!"
*Helloooooooo nurse
"Hello, Female Medical Professional!"
Dottie Yakko and Wakko
Hello!!!!!!Nurse
"We know we're selling out so it's cool!" Ok that one got a chuckle out of me. I used to love the original show as a kid, going to have to check out this reboot.
Wisecrack: “That’s a video for another day.” 11:44
Me: So tomorrow then?
Gee Wisecrack, what'll we do tonight?😋
@@robertscott7812 The same thing we do every night...
@@scarletspidernz Try to take over the world?😗
Animaney
totally insaney
*tHey pUsHeD mE OUt and MaCeD mE*
Animaniancs
*kHehh*
Yes! XD
Those are the facts
The Irony of bald men selling Keeps is NEXT LEVEL HUMOR
"We know we're selling out, so it's cool!"
That's also you guys, but it's OK.
ANIMANIACS: We showed the truth
SOMEONE: You can't handle the truth!!!
Christian Fuchs? I bet he does.
Probably not as much as Fred, though!
haaa. good night, everybody!
For Fred Fuchs' sake, I was also thinking about that joke!
Someone had to say it!
@@Pensive_Scarlet did you mean Buck?
As far as I'm concerned The Brain is the soul of Orson Welles trapped in a lab rat.
Isn't that exactly how his VA plays him?
Being "Self Aware" is a corporate trend as well. "We know we're selling out. So it's cool," might not be so much an admission of selling out as opposed to a researched punchline that the audience would favor. It may also be stating how other creative people convince themselves that, "It's okay that I'm selling out, because I know I am!"
That's exactly what I was thinking. I believe this kind of mindset really stunts the growth for any industry or art. It's pretty much saying "we know what we're doing is shitty, repetitive, not boundary pushing, etc. but since we know that it makes everything okay!" when in reality it really doesn't. This is why Deadpool 2 wasn't good. It thinks it can entertain you with letting you know how self aware it is but it doesn't offer any new ideas in the end so it's ultimately a snooze fest.
"That's a video for another day." .. Can that day come soon please?
In other news I love the Animaniacs I have my whole life I rushed home from school in order to get things done in order to turn them on at 4 o’clock every single day I love them I love them I love them
Personally, I think that Animaniacs has done more for adult cartoons than the Simpsons or Beavis & Butthead.
I don't know about Beavis and Butthead (never watched it) but I argue the Simpsons did contribute to the adult cartoon scene due to its iconoclasm of tropes until they follow the tropes they are criticizing. Animaniacs' message remains relevant because how little it change between the 1990's and 2020...
Ren and Stimpy actually created the humor that most adult cartoons use. Fun Fact: Both Beavis and Butthead and Rick and Morty were both inspired by Ren and Stimpy.
My age is right in the Animaniacs' wheelhouse. I was in my later years of elementary school during its run, and, man, I LOVED that show. I'd watch every day after school. There were so many jokes packed into it that, yeah, some surely went over my head, but I knew they were going over my head, so it encouraged me to listen and think about the jokes and maybe to be open to older pop culture, like earlier 20th C entertainment (and the longer i watched, the fewer went over my head). It was just very stimulating and sharp. And of course, as a kid, I loved all the anvils and mallets... obviously. Looking back, i feel like it had a significant influence on me in a way that I've enjoyed.
2020 Animaniacs has surprisingly biting commentary. I went back to watch the Original when I finished it and they're like two different shows. I like them both but I feel like the new one's written for 20 somethings. It's really cool to me but I could see people hating how different it is. Idk. Anyone have any thoughts?
I have yet to watch the reboot, but from what I can tell the ratio of "adult humor/references" to more basic slapstick might be more than the original. But since there is far more content over the full span of the original, there are still just as many or more adult jokes. I think the goal was to fit as much of the more biting commentary into the reboot so as not to disappoint those who remembered all those type jokes in the original.
@@doktorkritzisch
Well said!
They did a reboot!?!?
@@iamV10010 Yeah, but people say it's disappointing because it follows a bias Leftist agenda. Dumbasses didn't even catch that Wacko ate his, so he doesn't even have a genda!
@@TheGoldenDunsparcelol good one. But for real, I don't get people who say that. Wakko literally said he felt like the country lost its way when he saw a flyer for the Republican party in the original show, but sure, the REBOOT is the one with the "agenda". I swear nostalgia blinds people sometimes. Side note-I thought the reboot was hilarious and can't wait for more.
Would love more videos about this topic, including how the audience participates in the business of entertainment.
I was kinda expecting a 4th wall break with the editor of this video
Missed opportunity honestly.
10:50 That doesn't make sense. That's like saying I'm an employee for buying fast food to eat. Customers are not workers unless there's actual labor in the process. Consuming the outcome of labor does not make you a worker.
I always knew I was too young for this show back in the day
Hey WiseSauce Michael here.
Hey Vcrack Micheal Here
Maurice Lamarche also voiced Orson Wells in The Critic, making the Brain sketch even funnier.
I still love animaniacs... they are spot on on the commentary..
I never thought I'd see someone present:
"By liking something people know what we like so they make more"
as a bad thought.
Because the alternative would be to,... not consume media? Or not share what media we like?
I think they are suggested that for much of the history of art the act of its creation was not influenced by consumer demand or an attempt to predict what will be relevant. Ie the act of creation was more disconnected from the demands and market trends like data as in today
I think it's just one of those things where having more ignorance and margin for error actually can have positive effects. Obviously, lots of creators would NOT want to make things that people won't like; but paradoxically, what has managed to make creations more diverse and varied, including some very niche things, over time, was that they could not KNOW for sure whether they would like it or not. Imperfections and errors when it comes to art can be more fertile than 100% perfectly optimised content.
@@HaganeNoGijutsushi Very true and to your last point, if you are preoccupied with whether your media will be recieved well or not than you are also shorting yourself, because people don't actually know what they want. They might know what they like in general, but when a disruptive film comes along like Get Out than people can step back and say hey, that wasn't what I wanted or expected but damn after seeing the whole work I wouldn't have it any other way
@@christianlane1047
I agree to some extent, but I'd be hesitant to completely agree that general art expression didn't follow trends or consumer influences. Even before capitalism
Mind blown lol can’t believe I watched this as a kid
Ren and Stimpy were even more inappropriate.
This discussion dissecting Animaniacs gave me the perfect ‘excuse’ to rewatch the reboot (like I needed one).
I see Animaniacs, I click.
I remember watching Animaniacs after school when I was young. Definitely did not pick up on all the commentary.
I think animaniacs are right when it comes to the business aspect of the entertainment industry. I mean money is even embedded in Emmy and academy awards where companies spend millions for just the chance of getting them(even though the point of those rewards are to recognize people for their contributions to art and film). Also I really like how the animaniacs reboot blames the audience for reboots in the first place pointing out the only reason why movie and shows reboots happen is because we as nostalgia blinded consumers are willing to pay to watch the reboot in the first place(even though most people hate or at least are tired of them).
This shows always takes the piss, I love it
Fun fact! The Warner brothers are named for the company "Warner Bros." of course, but what's the story with Dot? She's the "dot" at the end of "bros."!
Omg All these years later now I know!
Very nice catch!
Why are these guys video essays so damn good!? Like I don't give two shits about Animaniacs but I'll watch his talk for 30 minutes about it
It's because it's a whole team of writers creating the essay not just him.
"..packs and sells your attention." said a man on my screen in a 14min video segment containing baldhead treatment promotion itself, between other ads before and after video...
5:34
Sounds like "influencers" and social media.
Not just with influencers and social media, but something that could be said about social dynamics in general! Even without the Internet and most media inventions, there's always been an instinct to some degree of people (and many similar intelligent/group-dynamic species in general) to be conscientious about where we are within a social structure/community and act within it in some way, particularly when social hierarchies are involved.
man is it good to have the animaniacs back with both the funny and the social commentary
meanwhile my contributuion to the industry so far is an artist's co-operative in which all members have an equal share and say.
It's not a creative industry, it's the industry of creativity.
The point about Brain using memes to control people..have you guys done a vid on Metal Gear Rising?
YES PLEASE GOD, the mother of all memes Jack!
Making the mother of all omelettes here
@@bernardoheusi6146 can’t fret over every egg!
Audience members being both consumers and producers of their own content is a weird kind of ouroborus I was not expecting
Hell, the TH-cam algorithm is no different, by reading this and commenting/replying you add your "Attention" to this video and propel it (and the creator) further ahead.
Animaniacs (the reboot) seems to be a mix of silly slapstick and extremely sharp social satire. 11/10!
The TV Show “Corporate” talk about exactly the point that the tv shows are going to be written by the data colected by their consumers, look it up, is an episode about the TV Show called Society Tomorrow and their own netflix
haruki murakami wrote a phrase in Dance Dance Dance that i love: "shoveling cultural snow"
The Animaniacs reboot got real cynical about politics too. There was one Pinky & the Brain sketch where some lobbyist offered a politician guy a big check, and the politician basically said something like, "I feel like it would be unethical for me to accept this," and then they both just burst out laughing. And I'm pretty sure in that same sketch, the Brain (masquerading as a politician) made some joke about invading a South American country so he could get better coffee. It was hilarious, but also *ouch.*
“attention is currency in the marketplace of ideas.” -peter coffin
Superheroes I hear you saaaaaaaaaay?
This might be Wisecrack's best video in years. And I tend to like most of their videos--this one is just above the rest in a special way. Stunning work!
It's practically the Zeitgeist documentaries and Culture In Decline in cartoon form!
"Ummmm Mr.Speilberg your properties are going on strike..."
Wisecrack should be paying us to watch Wisecrack.
Unionize now!!!!!
I just realized that Brain sounds strikingly like Kevin Spacey
That got super meta at one point. Jared would be so proud.
I'm just glad this show is coming back. I grew up loving this show and its nice to see a revival. Only show i can think of, that i actually want to see coming back with a bang. And the design is honestly closer to the original design than any other animated revival I've seen so far.
The Animaniacs reboot is not made by the original people and they got Family Guy writes for the Animaniacs reboot.
I remember seeing some discussions on a similar track a few years ago. The concept brought up was that because of the presumed expense of making a movie, TV show or any other property the person who pushes for it ends up under a lot of pressure. If it fails and was a fairly original property they often have a lot less to protect themselves with, whereas if they have a ton of market data that shows it should have worked they at least have some level of protection. This is why we might have a thousand remakes or movies based on random properties that are at least somewhat well known if only because if it bombs it's safer for the person who pushed it forward. Not to mention how many times they may just slap a differnt name and make a few changes to an existing script to fulfill a contract involving a property or something similar (see also Wanted)
Jeez, I watched this show as a kid and all of this stuff flew over my head
10:27 When I studied marketing a couple of years back they mentioned this process and how frightening how much information a business can gather from social media alone. Fun fact within Facebook they can come up with a profile on who they think you are. CNET did a video on their channel explaining as such; as most people are wary of clicking on links the name of this video is 'Limit what Facebook shares about you.'
I loved the reboot. People who thought it was too pessimistic I think may be trying to hold on to a reality that’s not there.
Wow. 0:20 ... I remember watching that when I was a kid, but now hearing it...wow. And it almost flew over my head, even now, too. lol.
We don't "receive a dime" for our attention because our compensation is entertainment that in other circumstances (movie theaters, concerts, stadiums) we have to pay for. Considering how pricey those are, we are being paid a lot.
It’s time for Animaniacs!
I loved this show back in the day.
Whoa! I never saw Animaniacs that way! That's why there's so much inside film industry jokes!
Contract negotiations got you afraid of getting egg on your face? Call Irving "Swify" Laboo!
The irony of the bald guy with a hat on hawking Keeps in this video is a nice touch.
I missed the Animaniacs, and was kinda wondering why there wasn't anything "new" done with them.... Thanks for the vid, now excuse me, while I'm looking for.... Well, where to watch the "og" show.
Too edgy for anything "new" huh?
@@jaymanier7286 nope, just good old Nostalgie from way back, kinda grew up with it. Well ok, the German dub, but still.
The animaniacs reboot existence alone is already some sort of critique material that I doubt they will poke fun at. As far as I know, they made the reboot without even telling the original creator, and then went on to tell that they did
That’s just plain rude and disrespectful, they are doing the same thing with the Tiny Toons reboot.
I still love Animainiacs. It was kids cartoon show, but written for adults.
1:59 to skip the ad
Brain: do you know what most humans use phones for ???
Pinky: i think so, but i dont think i can say it... 😂😂
I cant with him 😂
Spot on with the corners probably just slightly shaved down. I'd go on to say everything talked about applies to the majority of big companies today.
Its not just entertainment, its all industry. We are all consumed as part of a process that works itself out like a ruthless food chain.
Brilliant tv show so much depth.
Animaniacs and other examples of "mature" subjects marketed to kids is why my vocabulary is so large.
So hard to find any reboot nowadays that truly honors its origin. Maybe it's because Animaniacs has always been self-aware.
There's bologna in our slacks and hair in my jeans? Somebody better clean out all this dirty laundry
This video was very interesting. It made me remember how the Tiny Toons show had similar sketches.
We KNOW we're selling out, so its cool
Self awareness and its attractiveness in culture in a nutshell
"Christian Fuchs"
Love the streams of new content Wisecrack, keep it coming!
Animaniacs was one of the few shows I watched that was educational
omg I AM LITERALLY IN THIS AT 4:33I I'm the popinjay on the right!
The thumbnail: * says art upside down *
My brain: 🤠 R A T 🤠
This video is just The Social Dilemma: Abridged
I think reading Greecoroman tragedies is essential for kids, because it instills the fear of death, which is important for a good life. Watching cartoons that are cynical about their own industry also pushes in that direction.