Maybe you are and maybe many others are but I damn sure am not. I have not been since guaranteed July 27th 2020 when I left when turd to rot in the password belongs in favor of Linux Mint cinnamon
@@adamhassam They don't let me sign into my email account using the Google broswer which forces me to keep Edge. I have Gmail, but my main email is with Outlook, and I use that to pay my Monthly bills with and I receive my medical notifications. So switching over everything to Gmail will be a lot of work.
Garuda Cinnamon is equivalent to Windows XP but has a more modern appearance and does everything that Windows can't do with Linux you can customize your habitat Windows can't do jack shit they even got Windows 7 themes on Linux MInt I recommend running an ethernet cable to your computer though to get the best out of Linux and not an adapter.
WIN 3.11 was my first and Win 7 was my last Windows, I now use Linux. Every time I view a video like this I know why this was the right decision. LMDE 6 it is for me.
@@TechnoMinded-qp5in No current Linux is equivalent to even Windows XP, unfortunately. Simple example: Try to drag-n-drop a file from your maximized file manager into a terminal window, which is sitting "over" the file manager. The terminal window will move into the background the moment you start your drag-n-drop. Linux desktops bring windows to front on mouse-down already, not on mouse-up, which is a pain in the rear. There also is no sound when using xRDP on most distros, if RDP is available at all. All the Linux file managers are bad and stuck somewhere in the 90s, if you ever thought using Explorer was a pain, try Thunar or Nemo or Dolphin. More professional tools from the past like Krusader unfortunately lag behind as well (no preview pane e.g.). Shall I continue? o) The bash and that horrible shell scripting experience it offers is 40+years old and ridiculous to use. Also none of the 3 disk management tools (gparted, gnome disks, and (kde) partition manager) are feature complete yet. Mounting a VHD(x) from any of them? You just can't, even though the VHD(x) format is around for 20 years. Showing network block devices in gparted? Nope, even though nbd is around for many years as well. Let's face it, Linux has a lot to do.. if all you need is a browser, you probably don't see much difference to XP or modern Windows, but oh boy, there is. If you look into your home folder in Linux and all the hard coded paths in those dot-files for no reason, you quickly realize that a transition from one user account to another while keeping your settings is basically impossible for a regular Linux user. I could go on for some time.. - *.desktop files vs. *.shortcuts e.g. (desktop files don't work anywhere and can't use relative paths). - no UNC paths supported in bash or anywhere (you always need pre-existing mountpoints to access network paths). - .. Linux is a nice idea, I still like it somehow! o) If the advantages of it, like being ad-free, rather uncommercial and more privacy focussed weren't there, there would be no point using it, because most things are more complicated and not that sophisticated as on Windows (there is not even a standardized GUI for managing daemons/services/users/cron-jobs etc.), so please no more mention of "equivalent to Windows XP" before 2035 maybe.. o) Thank you and have a nice day! o)
I can explain why they've done it. And it goes hand in hand with some other odd things they do; odd, until you add them all together. For instance, they let you buy Windows keys from third-party resellers for cheap. They allow you to upgrade for free using your old key. And of course, you used to be able to use a Win7 or Win8 key to install Win10. Why do they do this? And why do they require you to have an account to install Win11? Because they no longer make their money by selling Windows licenses. They make their money by selling your information to whomever wants it, and they cannot attribute the information they gather to you unless you have an account. The more you know....
Theres actually an even easier way. Press CTRL+Shift+F3 during the oobe, then your system will reboot and boot to a desktop. DO NOT RESTART UNTIL YOU HAVE FINISHED THE NEXT STEP OR YOU WILL HAVE TO REINSTALL WINDOWS!!! Go into the settings app, and create a new local user in the settings. Finally, reboot your PC. Not only would you have skipped the Microsoft Account setup, but you have also skipped the ENTIRE OOBE except from the Privacy and Data sharing setup.
Just be cautious. Sysprep (the mode described here) can cook a Windows installation if used incorrectly. So do not touch anything on the window that opens (especially the generalize option, which is intended for OS image generation).
There is even easier way. Just disconnect PC from internet... It will prompt to create local account instead as there will be no connection to internet (duh).
you can use rufus or some other tool and it will make modifications to you windows usb stick which can remove limitations for online account and also wont bother with you with privacy questions. also it can premake you account you name.
What pisses me off about this is there are legitimate reasons that prevent signing into a Microsoft account. Such as a computer in an offgrid location, on a ship, or a computer that can't be connected to the internet for security reasons.
The oobe\bypassnro method will still work, but you MUST NOT connect to the network or internet until AFTER your first sign in, when prompted, click on "I don't have Internet" link at bottom and you can continue to sign in local. So, when installing Windows11, leave network cable or WiFi disconnected, until your all the way in.
When marketing was first invented by Edward Bernays, he used the psychoanalytical techniques of his uncle Sigmund Freud to, among other things, convince Americans that smoking cigarettes was "healthy". Marketing tries not to outright kill people anymore (especially in a litigious environment like the US), but it is still a practice where they try to convince people to believe lies and half-truths so they will open their wallets. To Bernays' credit, he did regret what he did for the tobacco industry.
Too bad most corporations Microsoft especially have mentality of a rapist
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I'm glad MS account bypass is no longer an issue for me because I am no longer a Windows user. It's their software, they can do whatever they want, but I am no longer there. I'm now a happy Linux user.
Just curious if you think Google isn't collecting and currently monitoring your data from your comments including this one from your Google account? Big picture... cheers
@@WizDumbDumb It's not the same, the data that Google collects when you use its websites or services it's not the same as the data that Microsoft collects from your WHOLE operating system and everything you do in it. Like what's the point you're trying to make here? Yes we all know tech companies collect our data, but are you suggesting we should let Microsoft collect ours just because Google does it or what?
@@AJ-po6upIt is the same. Google and Apple are hoovering up all your data when you use IOS or Android, not just Windows. Apple is more particular in the data they collect compared to Google, but they are still hoovering your data. I'm not say it's right, but all of Big Tech are hoovering your data.
From the recent set up (about a week ago) I have done, OOBE\BYPASSNRO still works, but you have to disable your wifi network adapter first: 1. press Shift+(Fn)+F10 and select the window. 2. type ncpa.cpl (It should open the network adapter window) 3. Right click on the wifi adapter, click disable. Close that window 4. type oobe\bypassnro in the command prompt. The pc will restart. 5. You should be able to continue with limited setup. Edit: steps 2 and 3 are optional. If you don't see the "limited" option feature, it's probably because the device was already connected to a network. Then you do 2 and 3.
I can confirm from setting up two Windows 11 VM's on a server project I just did today that you are correct Brian. If there is any hint of internet access, OOBE\BYPASSNRO will loop you back around just like your video. However, if you disable wireless or, in my case, remove the NIC from my VM and do Shift+F10 and OOBE\bypassnro at that sign in screen, the system will reboot and you can get to to the classic 'I don't have internet' screen. It's a shame we have to continue to find workarounds for this. As a tech who sets up domains and connects them to systems, having a local account is still essential in the little world I live in. Hopefully, Microsoft will see that businesses still have legitimate reasons for having local accounts. Thank you for the video. Be well.
@@lordchaos3819did that as Well. Bypassed by BypassNRO and ipconfig /Release installed some programs I normaly use then initialised sysprep went Into Administrator Account deleted my normal User used dism to create a new wim repoaced IT in my ISO and there you go
Custom ISOs can never ever be trusted as you have ZERO way of knowing what sort of viruses, malware, Trojans, RATs, etc. come with the third party ISO. @@lordchaos3819
Because of Microsoft's untrustworthy behaviour, I (a life long Windows tech and power user) has installed started to learn Linux... Keep it up MS, let's see where it gets you 👍
I guess MS will keep winning because the majority of people worldwide will not go on Linux. And organisations and everyone else. Only a handful of geeks pride themselves with Linux and if you spend time in that community you get a wrong impression there are many of you. But there aren't really. If anything would kill MS, it would be people moving onto the mobile devices instead, like Android or Apple.
@@D.von.N Who cares, every new user Linux gets it's a win for them and a loss for Microsoft, even 5% is already a big deal, also organizations already use Linux in their servers and are moving their office PCs to it too, as there's no reason to pay for expensive licenses to Microsoft. People are moving to Linux more and more and that's a fact and all that matters. And the whole "there're not many of them" argument sounds like pure cope from a MS fanboy, there's hundreds of millions of Linux users across the world, and yes Microsoft has billions but that's going down everyday, especially in poor nations where people used to pirate Windows and now just go with Linux.
@@AJ-po6up I am not a fanboy of MS, just stating apparent. I had a webhosting on Linux but still operated my every day life on MS because most stuff out there is compatible with MS and things are cheaper against Mac. Linux requires more computing skills and lots of stuff doesn't work there.
@@D.von.N Yeah I can't disagree with that, I do still use Windows in my PCs along with Linux, thankfully the amount of hardware and software that doesn't work on Linux is shrinking all the time and the different distros have become very newbie friendly, I used to be totally tied to Windows but honestly now all the software that I use has a Linux counterpart or just works under Wine, and it just works with a few clicks whereas before you had to fiddle with the terminal and lots of commands.
@@AJ-po6up I am looking fwd the day when linux will be an equal competition against MS for an average user. Will it ever surpass MS? That's the question. Will Linux eventually go down the path of greed like MS, as it is often the case out there? That's even better question.
I'm seriously considering jumping ship to Linux because of Microsoft's antics, forcing people to do things they don't want to is a sure fire way of losing customers.
@@russellhammond1283 Don't worry I will, I'm still on Windows 10 because of these antics, as soon as Windows 10 dies Linux Mint is being installed, I've used it before and was quite impressed with it, everything worked straight out of the box, the main reason I'm still on Windows is that most of the software I use is only available for Windows. But there's bound to be a Linux alternatives out there, I've just got to find them.
I would take the time to dual boot and test out a Linux distro. That way, you can make sure all your hardware is comaptible and see how things work. Just jumping from Windows to Linux and hoping for the best isn't really recommended.
Done some extensive testing today. You are sort of correct on the bypassnro front. That is a bypass for when you do not have internet. So what they have done is check if there is internet and then make use of it, even if you did bypassnro. If you disable internet and don't set up wifi and do a bypassnro, you can continue without internet and create a local "limited" setup system like before with zero problems. Tried it several ways. I was trying way more complex things, monitoring changes in the system trying to determine things because you said it wasn't working. But turns out it was a simple matter of just ensuring there's no network access for the bypassnro to work.
I build PC's and Laptops every day. All you need to do when it gets to this account setup page is disconnect the internet source. So pull the ethernet cable or turn the wifi off. then hit enter. After 20 seconds it will give up and give you the local account entry. Once you have done that, reconnect to the internet. Job done.
Nope even that is blocked right now. I Scratch built my laptop 2 weeks ago on the latest insider build. With no network connection It fails, tells you the network is broken and drops you back to the sign on screen.
@@jplewis01 Yes and No add a DWORD called BypassNRO with a value of 1 Into HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE and this works again
@@646464mario I'm willing to try it, but use several Windows programs not available in Linux versions. Looking into Possibility of using Virtual Box, to run what I need in Linux... Dabbled with Zorin distro a while back.. was stable etc... liked what i saw...
I'm pretty sure they're gearing up to make Windows a subscription service, possibly part of Office 365. That's why they're trying to force every single person into a Microsoft account, on top of wanting all your data on a central ID.
@@Britec09 If you don't know: May 21, 2011 was the beginning of judgement day on the world { you were warned } And it shall come to pass in that day, a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbor, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbor. Zechariah 14;13 'Tumult' = confusion & disbelief Division is the result for the destruction of mankind! ...look around lately? ... read the news lately? It is worldwide in religions, politics, economics, sciences, news, medicine, sports, entertainment, and even between the sexes. 'geo fencing' is the rich folks attempt to hide from each other, cover their butts, and try to hide from God. Fear, and the pit, and the snare are upon thee O inhabitant of the earth. Isaiah 24;17 Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof; I also will laugh at your calamity, I will mock when your fear cometh. Proverbs 1; 24-26 ...God is not a man that he should lie spoiler alert: 'last day' = 2033 ( 17th day of 1st month ?? ) Let him that is unjust, be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still, and he that is holy, let him be holy still. Revelation 22;11
No longer satisfied with anonymous data; now it must be personally linked to a person for advertising and other data profit activities... I'm going to setup a new email address, use it only for a microsoft account and see how long it takes for crap to start flowing into it..
Several years ago I read in Software Development Times magazine that Microsoft is ultimately wanting people to only have enough of an OS that will boot their computer to the Internet and then the person will have to log into a virtual machine on a Microsoft server. Basically, your computer will be just like the old "dumb terminals" for mainframes -- you will do everything on Microsoft's servers and it will be by subscription as they -- like many other companies are already doing -- are wanting to follow the SaaS (Software as a Service) business model. I suspect that one will be required to pay a recurring fee for a "license" to use one's own computer...kind of like the British have to pay for a "license" just to turn on their television sets (with gov't vans roaming around to detect who has their TV turned on and whether they have a current "license" or not). "We willingly buy the screens that are used against us."
Software as a service is Software as a disservice. I use Office 2013 because it will run until I don't want it to run any more, never having to pay any more. I won't even run the "free" Office 365 provided by my employer. I don't have to deal with unwanted changes to the interface, or any other changes I neither need nor want.
@@BurrPulch I'm using MS Office 2019 Pro Plus, 64-bit. I know what you mean -- I had been using Adobe Photoshop v. 10 from 1999, until Windows 10 had a big feature upgrade and I could no longer run it. When I learned that Adobe went to "by subscription only" (aka SaaS), I started looking for an alternative, ending up going with Corel Paintshop Pro and Corel Painter for doing my digitally painted character portraits and scenes. I've seen that Corel is now starting to offer a "subscription", touting it as supposedly being "the best deal" for whatever reason. I just keep using what I have since it's a lifetime license. I already have Win 11 blocked on my computer so it can't be forcefully installed.
The new method you speak of has always existed in Win10/11 but it requires a Win Pro licence so Home users are now blocked from local accounts until another work around is found.
My concern is that Microsoft will release an update in the future that forces user's who bypassed the Windows11 account setup to create a Windows account before they will be able to log in to their computer .
The last laptop I installed had no ethernet port and the WiFi wasn't working before drivers, which prevented me from launching it, because of the online account requirement. Without the bypass, I would literally have no way to install it! Also, amazing that they're doing this AFTER the EU said they're not allowed to force users to use an online account in the region.
Honestly since you said that I hope the eu sues Microsoft and force them to comply and I think the eu is the only thing that will keep the corporation's from doing shady things if they Crack down vary hard
THANK YOU SO MUCH ! It took me a whole hour to try to bypass it. I connected to a Microsoft account, then added a local account, logged out and deleted the first M$ account.
If I have to put effort into hacking to install Windows I'd rather put that effort into learning Linux. Over the years Linux is getting easier to live with and once a PC is customized how you like I tend to just use it and the operating system falls away into the background, If I upgraded to Win 11 now some tasks will probably have to be looked up on how to do it, so I might as well just switch and pull the plug on Windows.
@@ghfjfghjasdfasdf Except gaming, but they are all moving to Steam and you can install Steam in Linux, so even gaming is no excuse to keep MS around. I have a Win 7 ssd on on a workstation for older Windows games, but it's Internet access is shut off.
I'm using Linux Mint right now. It's pretty good. Not perfect, but better than Windows. But some software only works on Windows, so I do still have to keep a spare computer with Windows :(
Every time I see videos like this it just confirms my mindset that I made the right choice to switch to Linux when windows 7 was unsupported. I had to battle with windows updates to stop windows 10 being installed by stealth. I would rather find tutorials on how to use a new bit of software than fighting with windows to stop it being bunch of bloated malware.
@@SockFluff Non acceptance of change. Windows 10 is likely better than 7 and 11 than 10. I installed linuxmint mate on m in law's travelmate as I cannot get 10 or 11 to completely install.
👏👏 This is Microshift here and we ar watching U Brian. Thanks for all the heads up you keep giving us and yes we will one day finally block all the loopholes you keep exposing. 😆😆
Don't connect to the internet in the initial setup, that is a must. If the setup doesn't allow you to use "I don't have internet" option. Alt+F10 and run the "oobe\bypassnro", If you are using a OEM version, you may have a error of file not found. That means you have a folder "oobe" in system32 get inside and there you may find the "bypassnro.cmd" run it and it will reboot. Then you restart the setup and "I don't have internet" will be available.
@@darkspongebob11 It seems the Shift+F10 method didn't work because Britec was network connected. You have to be disconnected from the internet and, after restarting, you should be able to choose "I don't have internet" to proceed.
I just did an install this week of Windows 10. There was a "I don't have internet" link in the OOBE (forgot to use it). However the bypass command was not recognized, and no bypassnro.cmd either. MS must be putting the functionality in something else, because I was able to complete setup without using a MS account despite that, even though I had already connected to a network with internet access. (Yes, I realize the video is for Win11.)
@@NotAnotherArtVideo Weird, was a OEM version that comes with the computer or a installation using the ISO from Microsoft? If you are using a ISO i recomend using Rufus to prepare a USB drive. Rufus has tweaks to skip things during the OOBE.
Try this method too, this might also work still (apparently it does for 23H2). This was also taken from the comments on the J2C video. All you need to do is: 1. Shift F10 (must be an admin cmd if you test it outside of OOBE) 2. netsh interface show interface 3. netsh interface set interface "INTERFACE-NAME" disable (Ex: netsh interface set interface "Wi-Fi" disable) 4. OOBE\BYPASSNRO PC reboots 5. Step through and click on "I don't have internet" The bypassnro command only works it the interface you are using to connect to internet is disabled because it reboots the OOBE setup in which it must have no internet from the start, not just in the middle or when you are on the network step. Pretty sure they patched out just using bypassnro alone. Re-enable the interface once you are on desktop.
Domain join is only available in Windows 11 Pro. With Windows 11 Home I was still able to install with a local account by disabling the internet during install using ipconfig /release in the command line.
Mint may not be the most cutting edge distro out there, but it really shines in the user experience department and you can install Ubuntu and Debian builds without issue.
I refer to Mint as the “bridge’ distro. It’s the bridge a Windows user takes to become a full-time Linux user. Some will stay on Mint long-term, but many will discover something else eventually like Fedora or an arch-based distro.
I never update to Windows 11 at home. Ridiculously increased system requirements, TPM chip 2.0 requirement, forced online account usage, ads in the start menu... Fortunately I don't play online games with my PC, the Steam Proton compatibility layer is working under more and more games.
I have Win11 running just fine with only a local account and no ads in the start menu (which i rarely use anyways). I have everything on my desktop so I don't even open my start menu, only when I need to go to my settings.
The local user is a feature of windows 11 pro. It has to be the pro version and you use the join to domain option. it will then let you set up a local user. In my opinion Microsoft should allow it for the home version.
I have Win11 Home OEM version and I have only a local account. This was setup by the pc shop where I bought my pc so it's certainly possible to have a local account on a Home version.
@@powerpc6037 Win11 originally tried to force online accounts but people bypassed it and Microsoft relented and allowed it. From the video they are trying to force it again for the home versions. I can imagine your version was one of the former ones that gave the option. I am aware of some cmd commands for some of those versions to enable local account but those are being patched out in later versions.
You have to wonder what is going on at Microsoft management, because they are just driving their customers right into the competitions arms. If I were made CEO, I would liquidate Windows 11, roll all the developers back into Windows 10, and get busy fixing all the problems in Windows 10 and actually finishing... one... operating... system... for a change. It's been like 40 years now and Microsoft has yet to ever finish one single OS and fix all the bugs in it.
This is why I stopped buying a computer and went to Linux because why buy a new computer when it will be rendered obsolete doesn't that kill the purpose of a computer with this useless ass End of Life policy Linux at least offers LTS when Microsoft doesn't.
They won't let you install the OS. A lot of sites and services online now require a phone number to signup. I don't have a phone, so I'm forced to miss out on them.
Unfortunately linux wont work for someone who works at maintream company or industry, like graphic designers since you know, adobe. And there a lot more. But yeah linux is the best
Linux is great. However many mainstream apps don’t run natively on Linux. IT support doesn’t have time to make it work in WINE. (I know. That’s my job) So we cannot use Linux in the workplace. I would 100% switch us over to Linux if our apps supported it. I do spend some time investigating the possibilities. Some time. But each time I look into there are critical reasons why it wouldn’t work. I can say that at home my audio production workflow is all done on Debian with Ardour and it works far better for me that anything in Windows ever did.
@@Turbojugend27 you realize the steam deck runs on linux right? it's not as big of a deal as it once was, as far as I know these days you can play most games on linux
If you want a Linux gaming desktop I highly recommend switching to the Garudo distro and tell Microsoft to take their power hungry fucking ego god like complexity and shove it straight out their asses where the sun don't shine everything on Windows I am getting to work on Garuda Linux they even have a free UNIX based Operating System designed for gamers.
@@n1kkriit honestly kinda is there though. Yes, we all know there is no Adobe suite but almost everything is either there or there is a viable alternative. 15 years ago I couldn’t say the same. Software also usually works super easy.
Brian, do these methods still work? 1) unplug the ethernet cable so that it appears there is no Internet connection. 2) Use Rufus with a downloaded ISO of Windows and check / uncheck the necessary boxes to bypass having to create a Microsoft account.
As of August 4th, I was able to bring up the command prompt from Win 11 Home 23H2 OOBE and execute the bypassNRO command to create a local account on an MSI laptop . On August 10th, however, I was not able to bring up the Command prompt on a Lenovo laptop. I'm not sure if Lenovo has disabled the CMD prompt hotkey while in OOBE, or if Microsoft pushed a patch to remove that capability. In any event, I'm on the lookout for new methods to bypass, as I refuse to sign in with a Microsoft account... In actuality, all of Microsoft antics are just encouraging me to learn Linux.
Linux also has a lot of problems, but at least the user controls the system, not the other way around. I kinda miss the Windows 2000 times. No bloat, no telemetry, just a bare system for running applications.
I literally stumbled across this method myself last week with a new laptop as all the other methods I usually use did not work. The machine will eventually be joined to a domain, but this is a method I never knew about. Thanks for the vid.
I've had a note on my phone for the better part of a year now with exactly this workaround method. Being at 25+ year Linux user, I despise the Microsoft Account being forced on people.
@@tobyzilla Nobody should be forced to make an account or even connect to the internet to install an OS or finish an initial setup of a PC. Honestly almost everything Microsoft has decided to do with Windows over the past decade or so have been nothing short of disgusting. We have a few cool things you can cherry pick, but the cons certainly outweigh the pros.
@646464mario I 100% agree you shouldn't have to be on the internet to install something that normally doesn't require you to connect to the internet and the whole haveing to make a account just to use your own computer is literally a anti trust lawsuit waiting to happen
This might be an Anit-Trust issue. Even the VL versions of these OS try to push you into a microsoft account, even those most of these are designed to be joined to a domain.
I'm fortunate that I have a Linux system set up as a domain controller and can pretend to be "connecting to work". I just join myself to the domain and use that account! Though last time I set up Windows 11, it didn't occur to me that I could do this, so I bypassed NRO (the DELL shipped with 22H2).
Amazes me how so many people just accept this as nothing more than an annoyance to keep working around. Like how are you not completely creeped out and furious by how desperate these big tech goblins are to snoop your stuff and track you like an animal? I'm surprised they haven't started issuing mandatory ear tags and cow bells with microsoft licenses. Our great grand fathers would have started wars over stuff like this. Big tech is a helluva drug.
Sounds good but what about 3rd party programs that are made for Windows and won't work on another OS? I use ZaraRadio for an automated radio broadcast program for example and apps like these are not made for other operating systems. I have never seen a computer that comes new with Linux.
What amazes me is that people are still willing to pay Microsoft to be abused like this, particularly when there are perfectly usable alternatives available for free. To me, it has all the symptoms of Stockholm syndrome.
Linux is not nearly a Windows Alternative! For an beginner it is. But when i handle Linux like my Windows in have to new install every Linux distribution twice a day!
@MichaelDustter I beg to differ, and its not about easily breaking Linux of which it is easy to do so just by updating to the latest display drivers that have not been extensively tested or debugged and way more to do with some software I use that does not fully function even with Native Debian and Arch support with its own libraries available to download, such niggling issues are what stops me from switching.
Why isn't Microsoft addressing the issue of the soon-to-be unsupported PC hardware? Soon-to-be "e-waste": hundreds of millions of older non-TPM 2.0 hardware. If they wanted to be "environmentally friendly", they would create an updated "Windows 7 - 2024" edition that would continue being supported (with free security updates) past the official expiration date for Windows 7, 8 & 10 security updates.
It's funny to think about because, well, my WIndows 7 PC laptops, and many of our old ones, pretty much died around 2013 - 2017 because, well, it just stopped working. But instead, we've kept those in our closet until the day we find someone or know how to replace and get it back up and working and go from there. When my laptops die, I don't throw them out. Rather, I keep them as history pieces for what I used to use, which also includes Windows XP desktops that no longer work either.
It's all a money-making scam. They pretend to care about saving the planet while rendering many devices useless with their software so that they can make more money by selling copies of Windows 11 to OEMs and then you buy the new devices from the OEM. Great way for both companies to make some money. For the standard home user that doesn't game and only uses the computer for light web browsing, email, etc...even a Core2 from a decade ago could handle most everything a typical home user would need. So, something needs to be done in order to migrate people off that hardware and onto something new. At least in the 90s and into the early 2000s, computers were really getting faster and more expansive in storage and memory, so it made sense to buy a new computer every so often. But what has truly changed in the past 10 years to make a computer faster and better that the average home user would actually notice? The bottom line is, they just want to make more money while still pretending to care about the environment. Remember, Windows Update is committed to reducing carbon emissions. What do they think trees are for? 🤔
You know, I wonder how well Linux would keep those going. What I've seen myself by bringing old machines back into use thanks to Linux felt like necromancy, but I'm really not sure how much support the regular common home user would need
it has never been about the environment... look up where all the plastic is going and how the places we've been sending it (China, Taiwan, Philippines, etc) are now banning the import of it for processing.
Thank you. They appear to have blocked the ability to open the command prompt in start up, but I could still use the set up for work/school method. Unfortunately, I already have a Microsoft account, but I'm trying to limit their ability to backdoor my machine as much as I can. So I could have used that and tried setting up a second account locally, assuming they haven't made that damn near impossible too. As much as it warms my heart to see so many people actually see a problem for what it is, this is a level of ridiculous that should not be legal (I know that it is legal right now, and that new legislation would have to be exceptionally complex to not have real bad side effects, I'm just saying this much pain over something as simple as owning something you paid for is insane.)
Your trick to choose to set the device up for business use and choose "Domain join instead" would only work on Windows 11 Pro, not on the home editions as the options to join a domain or join Azure are not available in the home versions of Windows. With Windows 10 and Windows 11 21H2 the trick I used to do was pull out the network cable and not connect to a WiFi network at the OOBE, you could then click the "I don't have Internet" button and create a local account.
Seeing this crap, I am beginning to miss XP, Windows 7 and 10. I'm getting tired of the internet, the tracking, ads everywhere, account sign in everywhere etc etc. I'm also getting tired of smartphone. 🤮🤮🥶🥶
@@igorthelighteasy but require research, bypassing, and maintenance. I mean you really can't properly use win11 without explorer patcher or something like it. This adds up really fast when you manage several machines. I'm starting to get tired of it. While you still can run win10 on a desktop, downgrading new laptops to win10 is not always viable because of driver availability issues
I don't miss XP, 7, or 10 at all. Why, you may ask? BECAUSE I'M STILL USING ALL OF THEM, Ha-ha! What's more, I will continue using them, nya-ha-ha! MS - 0, Me - 1. I win.
Jeez. Its happening all over isnt it? Anything with an app or is labelled "smart" requires an account and more of your personal information is sent out digitally. I know the comments section is flooded with linux comments but i truly am glad i no longer use windows and i feel sorry for anybody that has no choice but to use it.
I had a feeling it would end up being "join a domain". Will they eventually make you fill-in a domain name and go through joining it to a domain? That would be awful. Thankfully I'm on my last few "home built" computers and all are running Windows 11 so I won't be loading a new Windows 11 build in the future unless it blows up and the system just needs to be reloaded. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. THANKS!
I'm still using Windows 7 and 8 with Classic Powershell. I have a linux box I'm working with as well. If I could get a linux version irfanview and the old xp outlook epxress, I'd go linux 100% I love the simplicity of the old OE v6.
Just tried it using Lutris to install and it works. An issue that popped up is that you have to use drive Z to access your files unless you link in a directory to where Lutris has the user account in the the psudeo windows directory.
They need to keep the ' no internet ' option. There are reasons to have ' air gapped ' installs for data security reasons. They are breaking legit reasons for installs without internet.
Another tip is to select English (International) rather than English (US) on the first prompt. It prevents a lot of the crappy start menu adware from automatically downloading on first boot - you can then change the locale back in language settings.
So I assume you can’t do this in Home edition because there is no work or school option. If you want a local account in Home edition you can go through the setup stage with a Microsoft account and then create a local account with cmd
@@marksvirsky9103 do you mean to tell me that it will be impossible to install on an airgapped machine? I somehow don't believe human civilization has reached this stage of destitution [yet]
They could have a back door or use some malicious code in a mandatory update to brick your pc. Imagine some country determining that your behavior is unacceptable so they have MS disable your computer. I hate to say it but I must use the "L" word and suggest Linux.
@@PC4USE1They don't need to make a backdoor or include malicious code to brick your machine. They have done so earlier with some earlier updates, so they just need to do imperfect testing before releasing patches...
This practice should be illegal. OPERATING SYSTEMS should have extra regulations -- and FORCING ads, accounts, or installation of apps, should be very much protected and easy to avoid -- and their use should be OPT IN.
Keep your old Win 11 installation USB that was made before this update was included. You then need to disconnect the internet connection as soon as it goes to next screen to prevent the install being updated. You can then still use all the previous methods.
Lovely video britec! Even though I'm on Linux mint now everyone needs to know this stuff! Personally, I don't like Microsoft telling me how I will use my computer. I'll keep my offline account thank you
@@STONE69_ I do. I switched a year ago from Windows 7 (yeah I was a stubborn holdout). Never looked back. Fun to get out some popcorn and watch the dumpster fire that is Windows 10 and above.
I'm glad I saw this now instead of a few days from now when my new desktop is supposed to arrive. I wish Windows 10 was an option for it when I ordered the parts and all. Micro$oft can be so scummy at the best of times. Thanks for the video.
Yes, then choose Sign In options and then Domain Join. It will let you then create a local account. Another thing that still works, as far as I'm aware, if you have a home version of Windows just put in the letter "A" for the Microsoft Account e-mail address, and then another "a" as the password - it should then take you to an "oops something went wrong" screen and let you create a local account.
@@sergio_ra 4.03% as of Feb 2024 and much more if you add chrome OS which is based on Linux, so adding Chrome brings it to over 8% that's after a long period of staying at around 2%.
@@GManWrites and ofc that's just the worldwide average, the biggest outlier is India with a 15% adoption of Linux desktop (yeah, how idk but it's there)
So this is the thing that makes people switch to Linux? Not 25-character product keys (98), product activation (XP), user account control (Vista), or turning your PC into a phone (8)? I'll believe it when I finally see a mass migration to Linux. That hasn't happened yet. Hasn't happened in 26 years and isn't going to happen today.
@@BurrPulch I do IT for a living and have done so for some 30 years. I'm only seeing non-Windows in appliances and specialized virtual machines, not on desktops.
I expect Microsoft to make us eventually HAVE to use a Microsoft account or the OS won't work. No work arounds. They own it and can do anything they want with it and if we don't like it we will have to use a different OS.
My problem is all the new computers Ive gotten for clients over the last 2 or so months no longer let me type in the command prompt. Im able to open the command prompt, but then its like typing is disabled. Ive tried plugging in external keyboards to laptops and desktops. Nothing. I believe theyve disabled the ability to use command prompt altogether. Ive just been using a 23H2 Rufus installer to start fresh (Intel RST drivers usually needed).
Can you use a mac without Apple ID? Can you use an I phone without Apple ID? It's just strange how we make an issue about windows but yet make an account for apple even an Android requires Gmail to use it properly.
I use an iphone and I don't have an Apple account, and when I took my phone into Apple to get a new battery they just looked at me like I had 3 heads but didn't make me get an account.
Actually… yes you can use Apple products without an Apple ID. Even iPhones and iPads let you skip that prompt during initial setup lol As of now, it’s literally only Microsoft forcing this shit.
Point is, many Windows users still want to use their own personal computer with a LOCAL account and do not want to be bothered with a Microsoft account.
Company high tech espionage 😢 read windows license 12 thousand words, Microsoft is allowed to sell perpetual and royalty free everything you do to their business partners. Like selling lawyers using Microsoft Word typing and sell it real-time to another law firm.
I installed Linux Mint about a year ago (dual boot). Got it all set up as close as possible to look like Windows. It mostly worked pretty good except for gaming. Particularly Steam and World of Warcraft- unplayable vs. win10 for me. So I just always booted up win10 instead of Mint. Came back to Mint like a week ago and WOW! Games are working and looking great. Steam seems to have fixed compatibility issues. Can't even tell I'm not on win10 except for the file system (which is closer to windows than you may think), menus and task bar. I've even found that I don't need to open the terminal window very often. A lot of stuff installs just like windows .exe files. Adios MS.
yeah nice one, and Linux Mint isn't even really that geared toward gaming - as it uses an old kernel. The Edge ISO download can help mitigate that somewhat.
I just got Genshin Impact (for all it's worth) to run on my Linux Mint install. It took a bit of work (no terminal whatsoever) copying and pasting the data folder in the proton compat folders for it to work. Crazy cool stuff. No hiccups, no fuss, 1000% playable.
I just didn't connect to a network during initial setup and it worked perfectly fine and I was able to create a local account. I don't know if they don't allow that now or something.
If you installed with a MS account you cant use your computer with out that account and most likely (have not tried) connected to the internet to validate the login. It may store cached login for a few days but it (our cooperate servers use to do this in the event you do not have Internet for work DOMAIN) but it will eventually lock you out unless you use the MS account and Internet. Only way around this is to create a local ADMIN account which they are making it harder and harder to do.
I was wondering that too, why can't you just close your account, not allowing that can't be legal. Or if you do that does that stop your future upgrades or something?
Switched to Linux about 9 months ago, and all I can say is, there was a little learning curve, but I wish I had dumped M$ much, much sooner. Don't be afraid to put on a pot of coffee, sit down, learn some basic in Linux, and dump M$ forever.
@VilifiedOne Yep, I hear ya on this. It's all about market share, ofc. The more people who start using Linux, the more inclined these companies will be to make native drivers for it. In some cases, emailing and asking for it, may lead to it. We're never alone in the drivers we need. Thankfully for myself, the only hardware I have driver issues with, is my Avermedia capture card, but..... I do have a USB 3.0 model, which does work fine. Hopefully, Linux continues to gain more traction, so it will finally be acknowledged as a platform worth supporting by these companies.
Decided just last night that I will not be running Windows 11. Once support for 10 ends in October, 2025, that's it. I'm already in the POC phase of choosing my future workstation linux distro. The sh!t M$ continues to pull has long been unacceptable and I will no longer be a part of it. I'm very excited to rid my home of it.
@blueee100 Antivirus and firewall software is always good to have up to date, but it does not cover every aspect of security. Operating systems, like any other software, can have as yet undiscovered security issues that antivirus software can't catch. One example can be bugs in a graphics library that allow an attacker to run unauthorised code in your system just by displaying a specially manipulated image. If this library is part of the operating system, instead of other software that is still supported, you are out of luck... A clean install of Windows XP without an antivirus program and no firewall can get you infected in just 10 minutes...
It's scummy behaviour like this that pushed me into using Linux full time about five years ago. I didn't want to. Linux has a few difficulties, and some software I need straight up does not work. But all of the drawbacks of Linux were eventually outweighed by Microsoft's sheer malfeasance. In the years that have followed, seeing all that has happened, I have only become more sure that my decision was the correct one.
Me too. Currently, there is no software that only works in windows 11, so I don't need to change. Even if Windows 10 is not patched anymore, then I am using an active firewall, so I am safe.
Disconnecting your Internet access before the setup process will also work. If you have Ethernet, unplug it. If you have WiFi, don't connect to a network. When it gets to the network setup screen, just click 'I don't have internet' and voila! Local account enabled.
Because Windows is not the product, we are the product.
agreed
This is my educated guess too - they want normal people only on this system not linux lovers.
Maybe you are and maybe many others are but I damn sure am not. I have not been since guaranteed July 27th 2020 when I left when turd to rot in the password belongs in favor of Linux Mint cinnamon
VERY TRUE!!!
@@adamhassam They don't let me sign into my email account using the Google broswer which forces me to keep Edge. I have Gmail, but my main email is with Outlook, and I use that to pay my Monthly bills with and I receive my medical notifications. So switching over everything to Gmail will be a lot of work.
how i miss windows 7 when a system was a system...
Garuda Cinnamon is equivalent to Windows XP but has a more modern appearance and does everything that Windows can't do with Linux you can customize your habitat Windows can't do jack shit they even got Windows 7 themes on Linux MInt I recommend running an ethernet cable to your computer though to get the best out of Linux and not an adapter.
WIN 3.11 was my first and Win 7 was my last Windows, I now use Linux. Every time I view a video like this I know why this was the right decision. LMDE 6 it is for me.
@@TechnoMinded-qp5in No current Linux is equivalent to even Windows XP, unfortunately. Simple example: Try to drag-n-drop a file from your maximized file manager into a terminal window, which is sitting "over" the file manager. The terminal window will move into the background the moment you start your drag-n-drop. Linux desktops bring windows to front on mouse-down already, not on mouse-up, which is a pain in the rear. There also is no sound when using xRDP on most distros, if RDP is available at all. All the Linux file managers are bad and stuck somewhere in the 90s, if you ever thought using Explorer was a pain, try Thunar or Nemo or Dolphin. More professional tools from the past like Krusader unfortunately lag behind as well (no preview pane e.g.).
Shall I continue? o)
The bash and that horrible shell scripting experience it offers is 40+years old and ridiculous to use. Also none of the 3 disk management tools (gparted, gnome disks, and (kde) partition manager) are feature complete yet. Mounting a VHD(x) from any of them? You just can't, even though the VHD(x) format is around for 20 years. Showing network block devices in gparted? Nope, even though nbd is around for many years as well.
Let's face it, Linux has a lot to do.. if all you need is a browser, you probably don't see much difference to XP or modern Windows, but oh boy, there is. If you look into your home folder in Linux and all the hard coded paths in those dot-files for no reason, you quickly realize that a transition from one user account to another while keeping your settings is basically impossible for a regular Linux user.
I could go on for some time..
- *.desktop files vs. *.shortcuts e.g. (desktop files don't work anywhere and can't use relative paths).
- no UNC paths supported in bash or anywhere (you always need pre-existing mountpoints to access network paths).
- ..
Linux is a nice idea, I still like it somehow! o)
If the advantages of it, like being ad-free, rather uncommercial and more privacy focussed weren't there, there would be no point using it, because most things are more complicated and not that sophisticated as on Windows (there is not even a standardized GUI for managing daemons/services/users/cron-jobs etc.), so please no more mention of "equivalent to Windows XP" before 2035 maybe.. o)
Thank you and have a nice day! o)
I miss windows xp sp2 where everything just worked.
@@TechnoMinded-qp5in ethernet is ethernet, what the hell are you on about?
I can explain why they've done it. And it goes hand in hand with some other odd things they do; odd, until you add them all together. For instance, they let you buy Windows keys from third-party resellers for cheap. They allow you to upgrade for free using your old key. And of course, you used to be able to use a Win7 or Win8 key to install Win10. Why do they do this? And why do they require you to have an account to install Win11? Because they no longer make their money by selling Windows licenses. They make their money by selling your information to whomever wants it, and they cannot attribute the information they gather to you unless you have an account.
The more you know....
^ This. Data harvesting pure and simple.
Windows should be rebranded as Backdoor instead
And exactly this is illegal
@@peterwolfik5827 It might be, except you agree to it when you click those boxes during the install process. Read the EULA.
I thought you were going to "explain" but all I see are accusation.
Theres actually an even easier way. Press CTRL+Shift+F3 during the oobe, then your system will reboot and boot to a desktop. DO NOT RESTART UNTIL YOU HAVE FINISHED THE NEXT STEP OR YOU WILL HAVE TO REINSTALL WINDOWS!!! Go into the settings app, and create a new local user in the settings. Finally, reboot your PC. Not only would you have skipped the Microsoft Account setup, but you have also skipped the ENTIRE OOBE except from the Privacy and Data sharing setup.
nice
Need to try this.
Just be cautious. Sysprep (the mode described here) can cook a Windows installation if used incorrectly. So do not touch anything on the window that opens (especially the generalize option, which is intended for OS image generation).
There is even easier way.
Just disconnect PC from internet... It will prompt to create local account instead as there will be no connection to internet (duh).
you can use rufus or some other tool and it will make modifications to you windows usb stick which can remove limitations for online account and also wont bother with you with privacy questions. also it can premake you account you name.
What pisses me off about this is there are legitimate reasons that prevent signing into a Microsoft account. Such as a computer in an offgrid location, on a ship, or a computer that can't be connected to the internet for security reasons.
Isn't that the whole reason that "Setup for work or school" thing still works?
@@umi3017 I believe that requires the pro version, not home.
It was the "Pro" version he was using.
@@shaunhw I know. Most people don't want to pay extra for pro just to bypass email login.
@@Slackware1995 It's easier to get pro keys as businesses buy the pro version as bulk licenses and sell the surplus keys.
What was once a push is now becoming a shove.
its even more than a shove 😂
@@Britec09 It's gunpoint now.
@@chitan1362 Log in to your Microsoft account or the kitten gets it!
@@chitan1362 yeah... like literally GAU-8 gunpoint
@@Britec09 - M$ raping its users without a condom. lol
The oobe\bypassnro method will still work, but you MUST NOT connect to the network or internet until AFTER your first sign in, when prompted, click on "I don't have Internet" link at bottom and you can continue to sign in local. So, when installing Windows11, leave network cable or WiFi disconnected, until your all the way in.
Yeah that was how the oobe bypassnro worked
Exactly!!!
This was not doable just 3 days ago.
they will remove it eventually. they removed things in the past.
NTLite allowed me to create a custom Windows 11 iso without having to even log online
US marketing behaviour is getting to be a scam.
Its getting silly
Only "getting" to be a scam? I would argue it's been bad for decades, but that's a rant for another day. :P
Greed is Good
And now America has fallen down
I voted with my feet and left the USA for good. Best decision of my life!
When marketing was first invented by Edward Bernays, he used the psychoanalytical techniques of his uncle Sigmund Freud to, among other things, convince Americans that smoking cigarettes was "healthy".
Marketing tries not to outright kill people anymore (especially in a litigious environment like the US), but it is still a practice where they try to convince people to believe lies and half-truths so they will open their wallets.
To Bernays' credit, he did regret what he did for the tobacco industry.
Too bad most corporations Microsoft especially have mentality of a rapist
I'm glad MS account bypass is no longer an issue for me because I am no longer a Windows user. It's their software, they can do whatever they want, but I am no longer there. I'm now a happy Linux user.
Just curious if you think Google isn't collecting and currently monitoring your data from your comments including this one from your Google account? Big picture... cheers
@@WizDumbDumb true that, but OP wasn't talking about Google :P
@@WizDumbDumb It's not the same, the data that Google collects when you use its websites or services it's not the same as the data that Microsoft collects from your WHOLE operating system and everything you do in it.
Like what's the point you're trying to make here? Yes we all know tech companies collect our data, but are you suggesting we should let Microsoft collect ours just because Google does it or what?
Nah, they have a responsibility as a monopoly to not go out their way to be tyrants.
@@AJ-po6upIt is the same. Google and Apple are hoovering up all your data when you use IOS or Android, not just Windows.
Apple is more particular in the data they collect compared to Google, but they are still hoovering your data.
I'm not say it's right, but all of Big Tech are hoovering your data.
From the recent set up (about a week ago) I have done, OOBE\BYPASSNRO still works, but you have to disable your wifi network adapter first:
1. press Shift+(Fn)+F10 and select the window.
2. type ncpa.cpl (It should open the network adapter window)
3. Right click on the wifi adapter, click disable. Close that window
4. type oobe\bypassnro in the command prompt. The pc will restart.
5. You should be able to continue with limited setup.
Edit: steps 2 and 3 are optional. If you don't see the "limited" option feature, it's probably because the device was already connected to a network. Then you do 2 and 3.
Much as I appreciate the instructions, it's absolutely insane to require workarounds to access basic functionality of a thing you bought.
What if you just don't connect Ethernet cable?
@@StroggKingu skip steps 2 and 3 then.
@@GoodTofuFriday Correct!
Nice! worked
I can confirm from setting up two Windows 11 VM's on a server project I just did today that you are correct Brian. If there is any hint of internet access, OOBE\BYPASSNRO will loop you back around just like your video. However, if you disable wireless or, in my case, remove the NIC from my VM and do Shift+F10 and OOBE\bypassnro at that sign in screen, the system will reboot and you can get to to the classic 'I don't have internet' screen.
It's a shame we have to continue to find workarounds for this. As a tech who sets up domains and connects them to systems, having a local account is still essential in the little world I live in. Hopefully, Microsoft will see that businesses still have legitimate reasons for having local accounts. Thank you for the video. Be well.
use "ipconfig /release" to disconnect all networks
Why dont you just set up a custom ISO of Windows 11? It is free and fully legal.
@@lordchaos3819did that as Well. Bypassed by BypassNRO and ipconfig /Release installed some programs I normaly use then initialised sysprep went Into Administrator Account deleted my normal User used dism to create a new wim repoaced IT in my ISO and there you go
Custom ISOs can never ever be trusted as you have ZERO way of knowing what sort of viruses, malware, Trojans, RATs, etc. come with the third party ISO. @@lordchaos3819
Because of Microsoft's untrustworthy behaviour, I (a life long Windows tech and power user) has installed started to learn Linux... Keep it up MS, let's see where it gets you 👍
I guess MS will keep winning because the majority of people worldwide will not go on Linux. And organisations and everyone else. Only a handful of geeks pride themselves with Linux and if you spend time in that community you get a wrong impression there are many of you. But there aren't really. If anything would kill MS, it would be people moving onto the mobile devices instead, like Android or Apple.
@@D.von.N Who cares, every new user Linux gets it's a win for them and a loss for Microsoft, even 5% is already a big deal, also organizations already use Linux in their servers and are moving their office PCs to it too, as there's no reason to pay for expensive licenses to Microsoft. People are moving to Linux more and more and that's a fact and all that matters. And the whole "there're not many of them" argument sounds like pure cope from a MS fanboy, there's hundreds of millions of Linux users across the world, and yes Microsoft has billions but that's going down everyday, especially in poor nations where people used to pirate Windows and now just go with Linux.
@@AJ-po6up I am not a fanboy of MS, just stating apparent. I had a webhosting on Linux but still operated my every day life on MS because most stuff out there is compatible with MS and things are cheaper against Mac. Linux requires more computing skills and lots of stuff doesn't work there.
@@D.von.N Yeah I can't disagree with that, I do still use Windows in my PCs along with Linux, thankfully the amount of hardware and software that doesn't work on Linux is shrinking all the time and the different distros have become very newbie friendly, I used to be totally tied to Windows but honestly now all the software that I use has a Linux counterpart or just works under Wine, and it just works with a few clicks whereas before you had to fiddle with the terminal and lots of commands.
@@AJ-po6up I am looking fwd the day when linux will be an equal competition against MS for an average user. Will it ever surpass MS? That's the question. Will Linux eventually go down the path of greed like MS, as it is often the case out there? That's even better question.
I'm seriously considering jumping ship to Linux because of Microsoft's antics, forcing people to do things they don't want to is a sure fire way of losing customers.
Don't just consider it; DO IT!!!! You won't regret it.
@@russellhammond1283 Don't worry I will, I'm still on Windows 10 because of these antics, as soon as Windows 10 dies Linux Mint is being installed, I've used it before and was quite impressed with it, everything worked straight out of the box, the main reason I'm still on Windows is that most of the software I use is only available for Windows.
But there's bound to be a Linux alternatives out there, I've just got to find them.
I would take the time to dual boot and test out a Linux distro. That way, you can make sure all your hardware is comaptible and see how things work. Just jumping from Windows to Linux and hoping for the best isn't really recommended.
@@Groovy-Train I've used Linux Mint before, compatibility shouldn't be an issue with this computer, so that's the Distro I'll use.
@@cougar02000 Yeah, Mint is probably one of the best distros to use when coming from Windows.
Done some extensive testing today. You are sort of correct on the bypassnro front. That is a bypass for when you do not have internet. So what they have done is check if there is internet and then make use of it, even if you did bypassnro. If you disable internet and don't set up wifi and do a bypassnro, you can continue without internet and create a local "limited" setup system like before with zero problems. Tried it several ways. I was trying way more complex things, monitoring changes in the system trying to determine things because you said it wasn't working. But turns out it was a simple matter of just ensuring there's no network access for the bypassnro to work.
I build PC's and Laptops every day. All you need to do when it gets to this account setup page is disconnect the internet source. So pull the ethernet cable or turn the wifi off. then hit enter. After 20 seconds it will give up and give you the local account entry. Once you have done that, reconnect to the internet. Job done.
How do you custom build a laptop? 🤨
@@mycelia_ow Build meaning OS installs. Drivers, Patching. Either manually or via SCCM, Intune or clones.
Nope even that is blocked right now. I Scratch built my laptop 2 weeks ago on the latest insider build. With no network connection It fails, tells you the network is broken and drops you back to the sign on screen.
@@jplewis01 Yes and No add a DWORD called BypassNRO with a value of 1 Into HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE and this works again
@@jplewis01 Try more times
This is one of the many reasons I got Windows 10 with my new build. Linux is looking better and better.
I will not go beyond 10.. harden it. Run independant AV.. etc... they can shove 11.
I did the same thing. Built a 13th gen Intel system. I bought Windows 10 to stay away from Windows 11.
@@Luckyrider1958as far as I’m concerned windows 10 is the end of windows. The only option forward is a Linux distro.
@@646464mario I'm willing to try it, but use several Windows programs not available in Linux versions. Looking into Possibility of using Virtual Box, to run what I need in Linux... Dabbled with Zorin distro a while back.. was stable etc... liked what i saw...
Been switching all my PCs to Linux Mint and absolutely love it. I’m done with Windows.
I'm pretty sure they're gearing up to make Windows a subscription service, possibly part of Office 365. That's why they're trying to force every single person into a Microsoft account, on top of wanting all your data on a central ID.
Yes you are exactly correct on this. This end goal has been on the table at Microsoft since the conception of Windows 10.
When that inevitably happens, I will be jumping ship to Linux.. after 30 years of Windows.
@@rennmaxbetaI already jumped to Linux for most of my stuff, still stuck on windows for gaming though. Proton for Linux is pretty good, but not 100%.
Sorry Microsoft, best I can do is switch to Linux and never look at your trash products again.
That could be why it's being rebranded as Microsoft 365 or M365. Office 365 is limiting.
they want you to use a microsoft account because of telemetry most likely
Yes, I think so
@@Britec09 If you don't know:
May 21, 2011 was the beginning of judgement day on the world { you were warned }
And it shall come to pass in that day, a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbor, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbor. Zechariah 14;13 'Tumult' = confusion & disbelief Division is the result for the destruction of mankind! ...look around lately? ... read the news lately?
It is worldwide in religions, politics, economics, sciences, news, medicine, sports, entertainment, and even between the sexes.
'geo fencing' is the rich folks attempt to hide from each other, cover their butts, and try to hide from God.
Fear, and the pit, and the snare are upon thee O inhabitant of the earth. Isaiah 24;17
Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof; I also will laugh at your calamity, I will mock when your fear cometh. Proverbs 1; 24-26
...God is not a man that he should lie
spoiler alert: 'last day' = 2033 ( 17th day of 1st month ?? )
Let him that is unjust, be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still, and he that is holy, let him be holy still. Revelation 22;11
Probably so they can invade your computer with algorithm don't comply switch to Linux IMMEDIATELY!!!!
So far I've deleted compattelrunner.exe like 5 times since os install and it keeps popping up in task manager.
No longer satisfied with anonymous data; now it must be personally linked to a person for advertising and other data profit activities...
I'm going to setup a new email address, use it only for a microsoft account and see how long it takes for crap to start flowing into it..
Several years ago I read in Software Development Times magazine that Microsoft is ultimately wanting people to only have enough of an OS that will boot their computer to the Internet and then the person will have to log into a virtual machine on a Microsoft server. Basically, your computer will be just like the old "dumb terminals" for mainframes -- you will do everything on Microsoft's servers and it will be by subscription as they -- like many other companies are already doing -- are wanting to follow the SaaS (Software as a Service) business model. I suspect that one will be required to pay a recurring fee for a "license" to use one's own computer...kind of like the British have to pay for a "license" just to turn on their television sets (with gov't vans roaming around to detect who has their TV turned on and whether they have a current "license" or not).
"We willingly buy the screens that are used against us."
If they did that i'd jump to linux Mint in a heart beat. although would have to figure out accessiblity first lol
Software as a service is Software as a disservice. I use Office 2013 because it will run until I don't want it to run any more, never having to pay any more. I won't even run the "free" Office 365 provided by my employer. I don't have to deal with unwanted changes to the interface, or any other changes I neither need nor want.
@@BurrPulch LibreOffice, just saying
@@BurrPulch I'm using MS Office 2019 Pro Plus, 64-bit. I know what you mean -- I had been using Adobe Photoshop v. 10 from 1999, until Windows 10 had a big feature upgrade and I could no longer run it. When I learned that Adobe went to "by subscription only" (aka SaaS), I started looking for an alternative, ending up going with Corel Paintshop Pro and Corel Painter for doing my digitally painted character portraits and scenes. I've seen that Corel is now starting to offer a "subscription", touting it as supposedly being "the best deal" for whatever reason. I just keep using what I have since it's a lifetime license. I already have Win 11 blocked on my computer so it can't be forcefully installed.
a conspiracy theorist, beaudy.
The new method you speak of has always existed in Win10/11 but it requires a Win Pro licence so Home users are now blocked from local accounts until another work around is found.
"Finally, been waiting for them to do this!" - no one ever
and every boardmember /shareholder ever
My concern is that Microsoft will release an update in the future that forces user's who bypassed the Windows11 account setup to create a Windows account before they will be able to log in to their computer .
And hold your files as hostage. I smell randsomware legalisation.
They likely will. Or at least re-add that stupid annoying webview window appearing every 3 days
Or they will stop updates until you create an account.
@@LobsterLock-ju2su If only.
@@LobsterLock-ju2su they can keep them.
The last laptop I installed had no ethernet port and the WiFi wasn't working before drivers, which prevented me from launching it, because of the online account requirement. Without the bypass, I would literally have no way to install it!
Also, amazing that they're doing this AFTER the EU said they're not allowed to force users to use an online account in the region.
Honestly since you said that I hope the eu sues Microsoft and force them to comply and I think the eu is the only thing that will keep the corporation's from doing shady things if they Crack down vary hard
Yep but the U.S. is not the EU so they will exploit U.S. users until they can't...
THANK YOU SO MUCH ! It took me a whole hour to try to bypass it. I connected to a Microsoft account, then added a local account, logged out and deleted the first M$ account.
If I have to put effort into hacking to install Windows I'd rather put that effort into learning Linux. Over the years Linux is getting easier to live with and once a PC is customized how you like I tend to just use it and the operating system falls away into the background, If I upgraded to Win 11 now some tasks will probably have to be looked up on how to do it, so I might as well just switch and pull the plug on Windows.
You make a really good point. Having to learn how to make 11 as lean as possible has left me wondering why I don’t try to move to Linux.
@@ghfjfghjasdfasdf Except gaming, but they are all moving to Steam and you can install Steam in Linux, so even gaming is no excuse to keep MS around. I have a Win 7 ssd on on a workstation for older Windows games, but it's Internet access is shut off.
I need it for music production unfortunately.
I'm using Linux Mint right now. It's pretty good. Not perfect, but better than Windows. But some software only works on Windows, so I do still have to keep a spare computer with Windows :(
Every time I see videos like this it just confirms my mindset that I made the right choice to switch to Linux when windows 7 was unsupported. I had to battle with windows updates to stop windows 10 being installed by stealth.
I would rather find tutorials on how to use a new bit of software than fighting with windows to stop it being bunch of bloated malware.
I did registry edits and changed file names in the system32 folder to stop all traces of win 10 install nagging.
Are you still driving an old car? That 's the logic you use.
@@mikecar52 Your analogy doesn't really make sense. Please elaborate a bit.
@@SockFluff
Non acceptance of change. Windows 10 is likely better than 7 and 11 than 10. I installed linuxmint mate on m in law's travelmate as I cannot get 10 or 11 to completely install.
👏👏 This is Microshift here and we ar watching U Brian.
Thanks for all the heads up you keep giving us and yes we will one day finally block all the loopholes you keep exposing. 😆😆
Don't connect to the internet in the initial setup, that is a must. If the setup doesn't allow you to use "I don't have internet" option. Alt+F10 and run the "oobe\bypassnro", If you are using a OEM version, you may have a error of file not found. That means you have a folder "oobe" in system32 get inside and there you may find the "bypassnro.cmd" run it and it will reboot. Then you restart the setup and "I don't have internet" will be available.
Did you even watch the video?
@@darkspongebob11 It seems the Shift+F10 method didn't work because Britec was network connected. You have to be disconnected from the internet and, after restarting, you should be able to choose "I don't have internet" to proceed.
@@darkspongebob11 I did. Did you?
I just did an install this week of Windows 10. There was a "I don't have internet" link in the OOBE (forgot to use it). However the bypass command was not recognized, and no bypassnro.cmd either. MS must be putting the functionality in something else, because I was able to complete setup without using a MS account despite that, even though I had already connected to a network with internet access. (Yes, I realize the video is for Win11.)
@@NotAnotherArtVideo Weird, was a OEM version that comes with the computer or a installation using the ISO from Microsoft? If you are using a ISO i recomend using Rufus to prepare a USB drive. Rufus has tweaks to skip things during the OOBE.
Try this method too, this might also work still (apparently it does for 23H2). This was also taken from the comments on the J2C video.
All you need to do is:
1. Shift F10 (must be an admin cmd if you test it outside of OOBE)
2. netsh interface show interface
3. netsh interface set interface "INTERFACE-NAME" disable
(Ex: netsh interface set interface "Wi-Fi" disable)
4. OOBE\BYPASSNRO
PC reboots
5. Step through and click on "I don't have internet"
The bypassnro command only works it the interface you are using to connect to internet is disabled because it reboots the OOBE setup in which it must have no internet from the start, not just in the middle or when you are on the network step. Pretty sure they patched out just using bypassnro alone.
Re-enable the interface once you are on desktop.
Domain join is only available in Windows 11 Pro. With Windows 11 Home I was still able to install with a local account by disabling the internet during install using ipconfig /release in the command line.
This method no longer works as the command prompt hotkey (Shift+F10) appears to have been disabled while in 23H2 OOBE.
Microsoft destroys the Local Account and forcing Microsoft users to used Microsoft account this is ridiculous
Enjoy it they doing it for win 10 to
@@Mayfairpagan No force of Microsoft account during Windows 10 32 Bit and 64 bit during the Installation
No but I hear it coming
It’s even happening in windows 10 however skip online install and go offline when you are in the windows 10 setup screen
It's no different to being forced to use an Apple ID whenever you use any Mac or a Google account with a Chromebook
Goodbye Microsoft, hello Linux Mint & Libre Office
Mint may not be the most cutting edge distro out there, but it really shines in the user experience department and you can install Ubuntu and Debian builds without issue.
@@bryede Mint has the edge version which is on 6.5 kernel which isn't that old (about 6 months I think)
Exactly, loving Linux Mint. Done after Win10.
I refer to Mint as the “bridge’ distro. It’s the bridge a Windows user takes to become a full-time Linux user. Some will stay on Mint long-term, but many will discover something else eventually like Fedora or an arch-based distro.
@@646464mario Gateway-drug?
I never update to Windows 11 at home. Ridiculously increased system requirements, TPM chip 2.0 requirement, forced online account usage, ads in the start menu... Fortunately I don't play online games with my PC, the Steam Proton compatibility layer is working under more and more games.
Windows 11 ain't bad .. the only thing you need is to modify it to suit your needs .. I for example used tiny11builder to make my own Windows 11 iso😉
use a rufus install of win11 so you don't need tpm2 or microsoft account or secure boot.
@@treeoflifeenterprises nah windows 11 is bad stick to 10 and 7
@@treeoflifeenterpriseshey, thanks for the heads-up, imma look into that for some relatives
I have Win11 running just fine with only a local account and no ads in the start menu (which i rarely use anyways). I have everything on my desktop so I don't even open my start menu, only when I need to go to my settings.
The local user is a feature of windows 11 pro. It has to be the pro version and you use the join to domain option. it will then let you set up a local user. In my opinion Microsoft should allow it for the home version.
AH, I thought so. I had to use the Pro version of Win 10 to block Windows updates because it's impossible to do on other versions.
I have Win11 Home OEM version and I have only a local account. This was setup by the pc shop where I bought my pc so it's certainly possible to have a local account on a Home version.
@@powerpc6037 Win11 originally tried to force online accounts but people bypassed it and Microsoft relented and allowed it. From the video they are trying to force it again for the home versions. I can imagine your version was one of the former ones that gave the option. I am aware of some cmd commands for some of those versions to enable local account but those are being patched out in later versions.
Never happen, THAT is where the advertising revenue is.
Use an acct then setup a local account. I just did it 5 days ago
You have to wonder what is going on at Microsoft management, because they are just driving their customers right into the competitions arms.
If I were made CEO, I would liquidate Windows 11, roll all the developers back into Windows 10, and get busy fixing all the problems in Windows 10 and actually finishing... one... operating... system... for a change. It's been like 40 years now and Microsoft has yet to ever finish one single OS and fix all the bugs in it.
i just experienced this on a new build from a week ago, Too bad I didn't have this video at the time I was installing Windows 11. The tyranny grows.
This is why I stopped buying a computer and went to Linux because why buy a new computer when it will be rendered obsolete doesn't that kill the purpose of a computer with this useless ass End of Life policy Linux at least offers LTS when Microsoft doesn't.
This is getting silly now. What does it do if there's no ethernet or wi-fi connectivity?
Well you will have to find a Wi-fi hotspot or use your local libraries connection or just go back to pen & paper 😎😎🤣🤣
They won't let you install the OS. A lot of sites and services online now require a phone number to signup. I don't have a phone, so I'm forced to miss out on them.
Huh? What do you mean by you don't have a phone!! Like you don't use use it?? 💀💀@@OlettaLiano
You're a non-person then.
I'm not coming back to Microsoft until they bring back Bill Gates all these other CEO are losers.
Try this method open cmd then type ipconfig /release and press enter then go back then press sign in again now it will bypass the account try and see
I will give it a try.
NTLite enabled me to create a custom Windows 11 iso without having to even log online
Seems more like windows isn't respecting the choices after unchecking option of improve windows experience during the setup
@@sugarpuddin Is this a bot comment or a legit comment??? Because from what I'm seeing your comment may/may not be a "lie".
Anyone try to see if this worked?
Why pay for something that you never own and is controlled by someone else?.....Linux is free and so much better.
Unfortunately linux wont work for someone who works at maintream company or industry, like graphic designers since you know, adobe. And there a lot more.
But yeah linux is the best
Linux is full of whiny gatekeeping incels. No thanks.
Better is debatable. If it was that great business would be using it. They don't.
Even playstation has more games than Linux.
Linux is great. However many mainstream apps don’t run natively on Linux. IT support doesn’t have time to make it work in WINE. (I know. That’s my job) So we cannot use Linux in the workplace. I would 100% switch us over to Linux if our apps supported it. I do spend some time investigating the possibilities. Some time. But each time I look into there are critical reasons why it wouldn’t work.
I can say that at home my audio production workflow is all done on Debian with Ardour and it works far better for me that anything in Windows ever did.
It puts a smile to my face whenever I use my Linux PC. It feels so refreshing & liberating! 💪
Parrot security, htb, and home flawless with steam
Yeah. I love sitting down to game on Linux.......oh wait.....
@@Turbojugend27 you realize the steam deck runs on linux right? it's not as big of a deal as it once was, as far as I know these days you can play most games on linux
@@moonasha No, no you can't. Most AAA titles will NOT work.
Microsoft is going all out with Windows 11.
Yea ! Right OUT the window 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@@AudiophileTommy 🤣🤣🤣
They sure are, not sure why they are making it so difficult
If you want a Linux gaming desktop I highly recommend switching to the Garudo distro and tell Microsoft to take their power hungry fucking ego god like complexity and shove it straight out their asses where the sun don't shine everything on Windows I am getting to work on Garuda Linux they even have a free UNIX based Operating System designed for gamers.
@@TechnoMinded-qp5in Unix like, not Unix based. That's an old misnomer.
Linux does not have these Authorataarian Problems.
We know
Because it's open source
Because no one owns the system' It's free and open.
That may be true but the selection of software isn't there like Windows and many times you have to jump through hoops to get the software to work.
@@n1kkriit honestly kinda is there though. Yes, we all know there is no Adobe suite but almost everything is either there or there is a viable alternative. 15 years ago I couldn’t say the same.
Software also usually works super easy.
Brian, do these methods still work? 1) unplug the ethernet cable so that it appears there is no Internet connection. 2) Use Rufus with a downloaded ISO of Windows and check / uncheck the necessary boxes to bypass having to create a Microsoft account.
1) yes 2) yes
As of August 4th, I was able to bring up the command prompt from Win 11 Home 23H2 OOBE and execute the bypassNRO command to create a local account on an MSI laptop . On August 10th, however, I was not able to bring up the Command prompt on a Lenovo laptop. I'm not sure if Lenovo has disabled the CMD prompt hotkey while in OOBE, or if Microsoft pushed a patch to remove that capability.
In any event, I'm on the lookout for new methods to bypass, as I refuse to sign in with a Microsoft account... In actuality, all of Microsoft antics are just encouraging me to learn Linux.
Linux also has a lot of problems, but at least the user controls the system, not the other way around. I kinda miss the Windows 2000 times. No bloat, no telemetry, just a bare system for running applications.
I literally stumbled across this method myself last week with a new laptop as all the other methods I usually use did not work. The machine will eventually be joined to a domain, but this is a method I never knew about. Thanks for the vid.
I've had a note on my phone for the better part of a year now with exactly this workaround method. Being at 25+ year Linux user, I despise the Microsoft Account being forced on people.
I’m already forced to have a Microsoft account just to play Minecraft. that is enough for me
@646464mario I agree that and the whole windows 11 thing is the only reason why I made a Microsoft account in the first place
@@tobyzilla Nobody should be forced to make an account or even connect to the internet to install an OS or finish an initial setup of a PC.
Honestly almost everything Microsoft has decided to do with Windows over the past decade or so have been nothing short of disgusting. We have a few cool things you can cherry pick, but the cons certainly outweigh the pros.
@646464mario I 100% agree you shouldn't have to be on the internet to install something that normally doesn't require you to connect to the internet and the whole haveing to make a account just to use your own computer is literally a anti trust lawsuit waiting to happen
This might be an Anit-Trust issue. Even the VL versions of these OS try to push you into a microsoft account, even those most of these are designed to be joined to a domain.
I'm surprised that the EU hasn't gotten involved.
Man where has Microsoft gone into an anti-trust issue??? Oh yeah, back in the 1990s up until 2001 and such.
I'm fortunate that I have a Linux system set up as a domain controller and can pretend to be "connecting to work". I just join myself to the domain and use that account!
Though last time I set up Windows 11, it didn't occur to me that I could do this, so I bypassed NRO (the DELL shipped with 22H2).
Amazes me how so many people just accept this as nothing more than an annoyance to keep working around. Like how are you not completely creeped out and furious by how desperate these big tech goblins are to snoop your stuff and track you like an animal? I'm surprised they haven't started issuing mandatory ear tags and cow bells with microsoft licenses. Our great grand fathers would have started wars over stuff like this. Big tech is a helluva drug.
I made a permanent switch to Linux back in January of 2020. Life is good here.
Started exploring Linux 24 years ago, fully switched over 12 years ago. Linux Mint as my every day OS on ALL of my hardware.
Welcome home!
Sounds good but what about 3rd party programs that are made for Windows and won't work on another OS?
I use ZaraRadio for an automated radio broadcast program for example and apps like these are not made for other operating systems.
I have never seen a computer that comes new with Linux.
** unless you like playing games
What amazes me is that people are still willing to pay Microsoft to be abused like this, particularly when there are perfectly usable alternatives available for free. To me, it has all the symptoms of Stockholm syndrome.
it has to do with no alternative is better than windows, I have recently tried arch and Debian based linux distros and it just does not compare.
Maybe you have the Stockholm syndrome with your illusion of choice.
I just waiting on something better not windows and not Linux
Linux is not nearly a Windows Alternative! For an beginner it is. But when i handle Linux like my Windows in have to new install every Linux distribution twice a day!
@MichaelDustter I beg to differ, and its not about easily breaking Linux of which it is easy to do so just by updating to the latest display drivers that have not been extensively tested or debugged and way more to do with some software I use that does not fully function even with Native Debian and Arch support with its own libraries available to download, such niggling issues are what stops me from switching.
Only EU can bring Microsoft to its knees now
yes but MS could then still have the same BS for other parts of the globe.
@@wally6193 select your region as EU in the windows installation page 🥱
@@wally6193 select EU as region during the installation 🥱
@@wally6193 just change your region to EU in the installation page
Why tf my replies keep getting vanished wtf😐
@@dedr4m lemme get my tinfoil hat real quick 😂
Why isn't Microsoft addressing the issue of the soon-to-be unsupported PC hardware? Soon-to-be "e-waste": hundreds of millions of older non-TPM 2.0 hardware. If they wanted to be "environmentally friendly", they would create an updated "Windows 7 - 2024" edition that would continue being supported (with free security updates) past the official expiration date for Windows 7, 8 & 10 security updates.
It's funny to think about because, well, my WIndows 7 PC laptops, and many of our old ones, pretty much died around 2013 - 2017 because, well, it just stopped working. But instead, we've kept those in our closet until the day we find someone or know how to replace and get it back up and working and go from there. When my laptops die, I don't throw them out. Rather, I keep them as history pieces for what I used to use, which also includes Windows XP desktops that no longer work either.
It's all a money-making scam. They pretend to care about saving the planet while rendering many devices useless with their software so that they can make more money by selling copies of Windows 11 to OEMs and then you buy the new devices from the OEM. Great way for both companies to make some money. For the standard home user that doesn't game and only uses the computer for light web browsing, email, etc...even a Core2 from a decade ago could handle most everything a typical home user would need. So, something needs to be done in order to migrate people off that hardware and onto something new. At least in the 90s and into the early 2000s, computers were really getting faster and more expansive in storage and memory, so it made sense to buy a new computer every so often. But what has truly changed in the past 10 years to make a computer faster and better that the average home user would actually notice? The bottom line is, they just want to make more money while still pretending to care about the environment. Remember, Windows Update is committed to reducing carbon emissions. What do they think trees are for? 🤔
You know, I wonder how well Linux would keep those going. What I've seen myself by bringing old machines back into use thanks to Linux felt like necromancy, but I'm really not sure how much support the regular common home user would need
it has never been about the environment...
look up where all the plastic is going and how the places we've been sending it (China, Taiwan, Philippines, etc) are now banning the import of it for processing.
Minimum hardware for "Windows 7 - 2024": 64-bit CPU, 4 Gb memory, 60 Gb SSD (no spinning HD) boot drive.
Thank you. They appear to have blocked the ability to open the command prompt in start up, but I could still use the set up for work/school method. Unfortunately, I already have a Microsoft account, but I'm trying to limit their ability to backdoor my machine as much as I can. So I could have used that and tried setting up a second account locally, assuming they haven't made that damn near impossible too. As much as it warms my heart to see so many people actually see a problem for what it is, this is a level of ridiculous that should not be legal (I know that it is legal right now, and that new legislation would have to be exceptionally complex to not have real bad side effects, I'm just saying this much pain over something as simple as owning something you paid for is insane.)
Your trick to choose to set the device up for business use and choose "Domain join instead" would only work on Windows 11 Pro, not on the home editions as the options to join a domain or join Azure are not available in the home versions of Windows.
With Windows 10 and Windows 11 21H2 the trick I used to do was pull out the network cable and not connect to a WiFi network at the OOBE, you could then click the "I don't have Internet" button and create a local account.
Seeing this crap, I am beginning to miss XP, Windows 7 and 10. I'm getting tired of the internet, the tracking, ads everywhere, account sign in everywhere etc etc. I'm also getting tired of smartphone. 🤮🤮🥶🥶
Most of the annoyances are easy to bypass ;-)
@@igorthelighteasy but require research, bypassing, and maintenance. I mean you really can't properly use win11 without explorer patcher or something like it. This adds up really fast when you manage several machines. I'm starting to get tired of it. While you still can run win10 on a desktop, downgrading new laptops to win10 is not always viable because of driver availability issues
soon we will all have cameras in every room in our home but don't worry, everyone else will too, so it's fair.
I don't miss XP, 7, or 10 at all. Why, you may ask? BECAUSE I'M STILL USING ALL OF THEM, Ha-ha! What's more, I will continue using them, nya-ha-ha! MS - 0, Me - 1. I win.
@@BurrPulch might not be that easy once MS forces you to use w11 by, say, making newer office build not work on anything else...
Jeez. Its happening all over isnt it? Anything with an app or is labelled "smart" requires an account and more of your personal information is sent out digitally. I know the comments section is flooded with linux comments but i truly am glad i no longer use windows and i feel sorry for anybody that has no choice but to use it.
Besides my phone, I just by default assume if it has "smart" in it, it isn't smart for me to buy it.
Perfect! One more good reason not to install W11 (as if there weren't enough of them already)
I had a feeling it would end up being "join a domain". Will they eventually make you fill-in a domain name and go through joining it to a domain? That would be awful. Thankfully I'm on my last few "home built" computers and all are running Windows 11 so I won't be loading a new Windows 11 build in the future unless it blows up and the system just needs to be reloaded. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. THANKS!
I'm still using Windows 7 and 8 with Classic Powershell. I have a linux box I'm working with as well. If I could get a linux version irfanview and the old xp outlook epxress, I'd go linux 100% I love the simplicity of the old OE v6.
Just tried it using Lutris to install and it works. An issue that popped up is that you have to use drive Z to access your files unless you link in a directory to where Lutris has the user account in the the psudeo windows directory.
You have tried WINE already I hope?
change to Linux long ago, never going back to windows spy 11
this is an endless cat and mouse of frustration
They need to keep the ' no internet ' option. There are reasons to have ' air gapped ' installs for data security reasons. They are breaking legit reasons for installs without internet.
All Windows installs should be air gapped; the installation media is missing the security patches it should have before being allowed on the Internet.
It's their, but it is not explicit. Just don't connect to the internet :)
Another tip is to select English (International) rather than English (US) on the first prompt. It prevents a lot of the crappy start menu adware from automatically downloading on first boot - you can then change the locale back in language settings.
I witnessed this when I was shopping for cheap laptops at Pawn Shops, hopefully your tips will help me get past their block next time.
So I assume you can’t do this in Home edition because there is no work or school option. If you want a local account in Home edition you can go through the setup stage with a Microsoft account and then create a local account with cmd
Just don't connect to the internet. The old way should still work
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul Not in 24H2
@@marksvirsky9103 do you mean to tell me that it will be impossible to install on an airgapped machine? I somehow don't believe human civilization has reached this stage of destitution [yet]
New bypass method starts at 5:56
Thank you! Should have been the video title.
Should work the old way to though, just don't connect the pc to the internet.
What's to stop MS from disabling your PC at some later date!?
They could have a back door or use some malicious code in a mandatory update to brick your pc. Imagine some country determining that your behavior is unacceptable so they have MS disable your computer. I hate to say it but I must use the "L" word and suggest Linux.
@@PC4USE1They don't need to make a backdoor or include malicious code to brick your machine. They have done so earlier with some earlier updates, so they just need to do imperfect testing before releasing patches...
Nothing, just like before, just like with any os if the developer has malicious intent
This practice should be illegal. OPERATING SYSTEMS should have extra regulations -- and FORCING ads, accounts, or installation of apps, should be very much protected and easy to avoid -- and their use should be OPT IN.
So you have to log in to use your computer? If the WiFi doesn't work then what? If they close your account your computer is a brick?
Just don't plug lan cable during installation and it will allow you to create local account
Does not work for a laptop or desktop with a wireless adapter. Windows knows you can connect to the internet.
@@mayhemsennet I don't know, but 2 weeks ago I installed windows 11 pro on a laptop and it was working
@@mayhemsennet turn off wireless router for a minute...no network to find
That does not work either
Keep your old Win 11 installation USB that was made before this update was included. You then need to disconnect the internet connection as soon as it goes to next screen to prevent the install being updated. You can then still use all the previous methods.
I ended up trying a bunch of stuff yesterday, I managed to bypass it by simply just unplugging my ethernet cable and restarting my computer.
Lovely video britec! Even though I'm on Linux mint now everyone needs to know this stuff!
Personally, I don't like Microsoft telling me how I will use my computer. I'll keep my offline account thank you
Do you feel peaceful and the quietness, now when using your desktop lol
@@STONE69_ Have you used Linux before? Have you used it recently?
@@BReal23-qm8hs I have been using Linux for 3 years now. 1 year on my main computer.
@@BReal23-qm8hs I have been using it for 3 years and now on my main Computer. Linux is so amazing.
@@STONE69_ I do. I switched a year ago from Windows 7 (yeah I was a stubborn holdout). Never looked back. Fun to get out some popcorn and watch the dumpster fire that is Windows 10 and above.
I'm glad I saw this now instead of a few days from now when my new desktop is supposed to arrive. I wish Windows 10 was an option for it when I ordered the parts and all. Micro$oft can be so scummy at the best of times. Thanks for the video.
Thanks but I really didn't need 6 minutes of what font work before 2 minutes of something that does
Just choose that you are using it for work or school. I have been doing this for over a year and a half. This is not avalible in the home version.
Thanks Nick
Yes, then choose Sign In options and then Domain Join. It will let you then create a local account.
Another thing that still works, as far as I'm aware, if you have a home version of Windows just put in the letter "A" for the Microsoft Account e-mail address, and then another "a" as the password - it should then take you to an "oops something went wrong" screen and let you create a local account.
@@jeffb.6642 thats the same as typing all the other user and pass combinatons which has been patched
@@jeffb.6642 That's what it used to do. Brian is saying that it goes straight back to the MS account sign in page.
Microsoft 🙄
This is just one more reason why Linux desktop use has almost doubled in recent years.
Yeah, I'm in that category.
Is it now at 0.5%?
@@sergio_ra it is currently at 4.05% based off statcounter - it was 2% in 2021 - the rate of increase in marketshare has been trending upwards
@@sergio_ra 4.03% as of Feb 2024 and much more if you add chrome OS which is based on Linux, so adding Chrome brings it to over 8% that's after a long period of staying at around 2%.
@@GManWrites and ofc that's just the worldwide average, the biggest outlier is India with a 15% adoption of Linux desktop (yeah, how idk but it's there)
So this is the thing that makes people switch to Linux? Not 25-character product keys (98), product activation (XP), user account control (Vista), or turning your PC into a phone (8)? I'll believe it when I finally see a mass migration to Linux. That hasn't happened yet. Hasn't happened in 26 years and isn't going to happen today.
Have you not noticed all the people switching to Linux? Do you think they're bluffing or joking?
@@BurrPulch I do IT for a living and have done so for some 30 years. I'm only seeing non-Windows in appliances and specialized virtual machines, not on desktops.
I think that the "Microsoft Account Bypass Block" is called "LINUX". But what do I know?
Since MS is obviously watching your channel, I hope they subscribed and clicked like and "join" button :)
So glad I got off the Microsoft train so long ago. I won't be told how to use my computer!
Will Microsoft remove local account completly in the future❓ I would not be supriced...
Oh don't say that. Lets hope not
*must have everyone's telemetry - big brother is watching* :D
I wouldn’t be surprised if they do what Huawei did where they won’t let you install any software unless you are logged into an online account.
@@Britec09 I would HATE it if they would do it but how slowly more and more pushing tovards cloud and what they are doing...
I expect Microsoft to make us eventually HAVE to use a Microsoft account or the OS won't work. No work arounds. They own it and can do anything they want with it and if we don't like it we will have to use a different OS.
Windows 11 is Crap, Just makes you wonder what else they're going to implement in future updates / releases...
More to come
My problem is all the new computers Ive gotten for clients over the last 2 or so months no longer let me type in the command prompt. Im able to open the command prompt, but then its like typing is disabled. Ive tried plugging in external keyboards to laptops and desktops. Nothing. I believe theyve disabled the ability to use command prompt altogether. Ive just been using a 23H2 Rufus installer to start fresh (Intel RST drivers usually needed).
It opens, but the window isn't active. You need to click on it or alt-tab over to it.
@@uoooooooohi tried clicking in, didnt work. I'll try alt tab next time. Thanks
If you click on 'Sign In Options' don't you get the option for 'domain join' instead, which is a local account creation?
Can you use a mac without Apple ID? Can you use an I phone without Apple ID? It's just strange how we make an issue about windows but yet make an account for apple even an Android requires Gmail to use it properly.
I use an iphone and I don't have an Apple account, and when I took my phone into Apple to get a new battery they just looked at me like I had 3 heads but didn't make me get an account.
Yes, you can use a Mac without an Apple ID. Some stuff obviously won't work, such as the app store, but you can use the machine.
Actually… yes you can use Apple products without an Apple ID. Even iPhones and iPads let you skip that prompt during initial setup lol
As of now, it’s literally only Microsoft forcing this shit.
@@646464mario it's probably billy gates still calling the shots.
Point is, many Windows users still want to use their own personal computer with a LOCAL account and do not want to be bothered with a Microsoft account.
Why are they obsessed with making people use a MS account? This isn't for the consumer's benefit.
Company high tech espionage 😢 read windows license 12 thousand words, Microsoft is allowed to sell perpetual and royalty free everything you do to their business partners. Like selling lawyers using Microsoft Word typing and sell it real-time to another law firm.
I installed Linux Mint about a year ago (dual boot). Got it all set up as close as possible to look like Windows. It mostly worked pretty good except for gaming. Particularly Steam and World of Warcraft- unplayable vs. win10 for me. So I just always booted up win10 instead of Mint.
Came back to Mint like a week ago and WOW! Games are working and looking great. Steam seems to have fixed compatibility issues. Can't even tell I'm not on win10 except for the file system (which is closer to windows than you may think), menus and task bar.
I've even found that I don't need to open the terminal window very often. A lot of stuff installs just like windows .exe files.
Adios MS.
yeah nice one, and Linux Mint isn't even really that geared toward gaming - as it uses an old kernel. The Edge ISO download can help mitigate that somewhat.
Imagine if you were using a Distro for gaming like Nobara then!
Linux is the future!
@@GabrielVilanova-n3p Yeah, well, it just took a long time to get mint setup like I like it... Will check it out though.
I just got Genshin Impact (for all it's worth) to run on my Linux Mint install. It took a bit of work (no terminal whatsoever) copying and pasting the data folder in the proton compat folders for it to work. Crazy cool stuff. No hiccups, no fuss, 1000% playable.
I just didn't connect to a network during initial setup and it worked perfectly fine and I was able to create a local account. I don't know if they don't allow that now or something.
Say you sign up to MS account and then you don't use it or close it later after upgrade, then what? Looks like childish games?
If you installed with a MS account you cant use your computer with out that account and most likely (have not tried) connected to the internet to validate the login. It may store cached login for a few days but it (our cooperate servers use to do this in the event you do not have Internet for work DOMAIN) but it will eventually lock you out unless you use the MS account and Internet. Only way around this is to create a local ADMIN account which they are making it harder and harder to do.
I was wondering that too, why can't you just close your account, not allowing that can't be legal. Or if you do that does that stop your future upgrades or something?
Switched to Linux about 9 months ago, and all I can say is, there was a little learning curve, but I wish I had dumped M$ much, much sooner.
Don't be afraid to put on a pot of coffee, sit down, learn some basic in Linux, and dump M$ forever.
@VilifiedOne Yep, I hear ya on this. It's all about market share, ofc. The more people who start using Linux, the more inclined these companies will be to make native drivers for it.
In some cases, emailing and asking for it, may lead to it. We're never alone in the drivers we need. Thankfully for myself, the only hardware I have driver issues with, is my Avermedia capture card, but..... I do have a USB 3.0 model, which does work fine.
Hopefully, Linux continues to gain more traction, so it will finally be acknowledged as a platform worth supporting by these companies.
I'd rather just learn to bypass the login on Win 11. Far less effort as a one time thing then I can use way more applications.
Decided just last night that I will not be running Windows 11. Once support for 10 ends in October, 2025, that's it.
I'm already in the POC phase of choosing my future workstation linux distro.
The sh!t M$ continues to pull has long been unacceptable and I will no longer be a part of it. I'm very excited to rid my home of it.
If you want, you can still get security updates for another 3 years after the regular end of support in 2025, but you have to pay.
Linux Mint!
I have a question, why does it matter if it is supported or not? People are still running 7, even XP! Just have a good antivirus like AVG or McAfee
@blueee100 Antivirus and firewall software is always good to have up to date, but it does not cover every aspect of security. Operating systems, like any other software, can have as yet undiscovered security issues that antivirus software can't catch. One example can be bugs in a graphics library
that allow an attacker to run unauthorised code in your system just by displaying a specially manipulated image. If this library is part of the operating system, instead of other software that is still supported, you are out of luck...
A clean install of Windows XP without an antivirus program and no firewall can get you infected in just 10 minutes...
Doesn’t Rufus let you patch the installer when making a usb? Correct me if I’m wrong
It's scummy behaviour like this that pushed me into using Linux full time about five years ago. I didn't want to. Linux has a few difficulties, and some software I need straight up does not work. But all of the drawbacks of Linux were eventually outweighed by Microsoft's sheer malfeasance. In the years that have followed, seeing all that has happened, I have only become more sure that my decision was the correct one.
Joke's on them, i ll stay on win 10.
Me too.
Currently, there is no software that only works in windows 11, so I don't need to change. Even if Windows 10 is not patched anymore, then I am using an active firewall, so I am safe.
They alteady have your personal information and sold it many times over.
You've only got until October 2025 until Windows 10 is EOL regarding security updates......unless you want to PAY of course!
@@Groovy-Train 90% of people dont care about security updates though...
@@Groovy-Train Use Win !0 LTSC until 2032
Time people started dumping microsoft i myself dump it years ago i dont miss them.
I need it
@@Britec09Seriously, it's time to re-think our needs.
We have been conditioned by brainwashing.
nice one thanks it helped a lot
Disconnecting your Internet access before the setup process will also work. If you have Ethernet, unplug it. If you have WiFi, don't connect to a network. When it gets to the network setup screen, just click 'I don't have internet' and voila! Local account enabled.
Also setup your LAN/WiFi connection to "metered" to block windows updater from running and forcing updates on you every few days.
Oh ffs! What’s next?
I know right, they are getting real petty
Next you have to pay to start your computer🤬😁
SUBSCRIPTION WINDOWS! 👺
@@matrix54190don’t even joke about that…
Well then...Linux it is
I'm seriously tempted to switch now, sick of having to sign in when flipping PC's.