Rethinking Feminism
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- Carrie Gress is a Fellow at the Washington, D.C. based think-tank, Ethics and Public Policy Center and a Scholar at the Institute for Human Ecology at Catholic University of America. She has a doctorate in philosophy from the Catholic University of America and is the editor at the online women’s magazine Theology of Home. She is the author of many books including Theology of Home. Her newbook, The End of Woman: How Smashing the Patriarchy Destroyed Us is what we are talking about today.
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I came out of secular feminism as a young woman, "got saved" in an evangelical church, got married, and couldn't wait to be a stay at home mom (and homeschooler) to my children. That wish came true, and I was always very anti-feminism and traditional in my views on marriage and gender. And then, about five years ago, I began to discover the truth and beauty of the Catholic church. The more I became convinced that it was Christ's church, the more angry my husband became, and more stalwart in his insistance that it was him or Catholicism. On the spiritual direction of two Godly priests, I have put off entering the church and am living as a protestant in order to keep our family together and respect my husband. But I must say that the deep difficulty of this journey in my life has caused me to reexamine my previously held views on submission, gender roles, patriarchy, etc. While I was once a stalward defender of these things, it is as very hard position to be in to know the full light of truth and yet have to keep it under a bushel lest my children lose the unity of their home, and to have to keep on being quiet and submissive when my husband refuses even to do the research to try to prove my conclusions wrong, but simply yells and says Catholicism is stupid and he wants no part of it. I say all of this not to just air out my personal problems, but to say that I'm at a point in my own journey where I now understand why a woman's relationship to gender politics, feminism, male headship, etc, can be based not just on logic or belief, but can also be affect by pain. And trauma. And hurt. And confusion. I still ultimately believe that feminism hasnt brought our society much good, but in my pain there are times when I get the anger and the frustration of women across the ages who acted out against bad male actors and lost patience with remaining silentand submissive. Yes, that is the way of Christ, but it doesn't make it easy, so I feel more of an empathy for those ideologies than I did for a good 20 years of my life.
Oh I’m so sorry. Will pray for you & your situation. I hope your husband becomes open & Al least is willing to have logical conversations w/ you.
@@cfradd Thanks, Cameron. I didnt mean to make it all about me, I was just using my experience to say that while for years I was stalwartly anti feminist, I have more empathy now and realize the issue is more complicated than I used to believe. But truth is truth no matter how we feel, and ultimately I believe Dr Gress's views are the correct ones and that she is a gift to the church.
@@Selahsmum Yes, I wonder what were the views of the women at the base of feminism. I haven’t read the book but it seems that the conversation was around the leaders of the movement that were satanic and anti life and anti men. But I have to believe that hundreds of women had real concerns. I just dislike greatly when we throw out the baby with the bath water. When are we going to find the golden middle ground? I’ve heard people in TH-cam advocate for removing women vote. This is sad and it worries me. Next would be the right to an education…. We have to be careful, there is evil and madness on both sides.
@@Selahsmum Wow. Thank you for sharing. This is quite a difficult cross to bear. I pray the Lord May protect your heart in these troubling times of pain and that may your husband be converted through the fruits your faith in the Lord has brought you
@Selahsmum Get psychological counseling from a Catholic or Christian therapist for marriage and related trauma. There are also organizations for dealing with Religious Trauma. Look at the work of those who deal with trauma-infomed care. This is psychological abuse masquerading as religious intolerance. Stay in the marriage for now, at least until the youngest child is 20. This is merely advice. Avoid the word "feminism." This is about basic human dignity. Consult with a Catholic Religious Sister Psychologist, if you can find one. Contact your local Catholic Diocese. Or perhaps on-line. Best to leave the husband alone until you clear your head about all the connected topics. You changed, he didn't. He is scared and does not know how to deal with the threat of you asserting yourself because he does not want you to chane because then he will also have to communicate better. It is about much more than religion, so take care of your intellectual growth first.
I absolutely loved this conversation. And I'm so glad there are women out there who feel the same way I do! Now I need to go find this book...
Your guest came to my church to talk to the young adult group. I was new in the church, her talk blew my mind and confronted every idea I was fed by society. God bless her ❤
Thanks for sharing!!
It’s interesting to see Ms. Gress writing books against feminism along the same timeline as Mr. and Mrs. Gordon. I’ve been privy to some of this info and ideas for quite a while and I love seeing fellow Catholics coming to the same conclusions.
What a needed conversation! My whole worldview changed when I became a mother. It's encouraging to hear there are sober voices on this topic.
You had a son, didn't you?
I'm not a mother. I am in my late 40's now and I think of this daily… I feel jipped.
I was only in my 20s the first time I layed in bed, not wanting to go to work or to class or to whatever thing it was that was my life at that age, and the thought came to me that my mom, actually got to stay home. She didn't have to do what I was doing. Somehow, in one generation, the expectation was changed. I was always expected to go to college, get a job, earn my keep. And it wasn't just that I have the opportunity in the case I ended up with a dead beat, the expectation was that you WILL get a job, or else you're a weight on society.
Your mother got to stay at home because she had a man though, correct? The expectations will always be there but the free choice to choose what you wanted has not. You have the free choice to not follow the college, career route but you didn't choose that. It isn't possible to have it all, there just is not enough time in the day and not enough youth and energy to accommodate attempting it.
@@loganblackwood2922 a man? 😄 her husband? Yes.
Not correct tho. We dont have that choice. The expectation is that woman are cogs in the workforce. Family is all secondary, by chance.
@@youtubeKathyI said a man because there's no guarantee that means married today. And yes, you had a choice, expectations and having adult responsibilities is not the same as not having a choice. You had two decades to find a man that was suitable to give you the life that was not about being in the workforce. You chose the workforce.
@@loganblackwood2922 lol. You’re missing the point. Go on and hate though.
I'm 33 and single, and honestly the thought of having to work 9 to 5 for the next thirty years makes me want to die
I am pro Dignity of the Human Person. This includes all humans, woman, man, the unborn, the elderly, the homeless, the maginalized. All human lives have value as children of God.
Well said!
I am surprised to learn you were captain of the wrestling team Cameron! My son is a high school wrestler so I know what an intense sport that is, I’m impressed. My nine year old daughter who doesn’t have an aggressive bone in her body has just started jiu jitsu. She really likes it and hopefully it improves her confidence and assertiveness. Have a blessed day!
I am thankful for Dr. Gress's books and work in this area. It is clear by researching the history of feminism that it was always an evil movement in its core ideals (e.g. overthrowing the patriarchy). While there have been genuine injustices against women, the solution was never to encourage women to reject their feminine nature and emulate men
I pray that we can take the next step after pointing out the great disorder feminism has caused the world and start to teach clearly what is God's design for the family as shown in the Bible, through the teaching of the Church, and natural law. This would include things such as:
1. Encouraging women to pursue union with God through their feminine nature, rather than suppressing it or striving to be masculine. This extends to discouraging participation in masculine sports (e.g. wrestling).
2. Mothers should be present in the home with their children as their primary vocation, not working careers that require children to be raised in daycares.
3. The proper authority structure in marriage with the husband as the head and the wife as the body should be lived out and respected.
4. Teaching clearly the idea of self-gift through the marital debt, including clear Bible teaching on this being a natural duty and having a natural end of curbing concupiscence.
Dr. Gress raises an intriguing point: while we can easily describe a "good" man, attempts to define a "good" woman often result in feminist rhetoric or descriptions of a "girl boss" archetype. This difficulty in defining a "good" woman is a metaphysical question that exposes the damage caused by feminism.
From a metaphysical perspective, we must consider teleology and proper function to determine what makes something "good." A woman's potential for motherhood fundamentally shapes her being differently from a man's, and thus, what constitutes a "good" woman differs from what makes a "good" man. Feminism has obscured the fact that women's biology specifically orients them towards nurturing and child-rearing in ways that men's bodies do not.
We need to reinstate clear ideals for the natures of men, women, and the family, abandoning the notion that we can selectively adopt feminist ideas like mothers pursuing careers outside the home. Failure to address this will lead to continued family deterioration, manifesting in smaller families (average Catholic family is 2.6), increased reliance on daycare, and homes occupied only briefly each day. We'll also continue to see men failing at their natural roles, especially being unable to lead, and women adopting masculine roles across various social spheres.
In our justified opposition to the obvious wrongs of feminism (contraception, abortion, hook-up culture), we have overlooked other subtle yet equally harmful ideas eroding the family unit. How have these changes become acceptable when they are precisely what the Church has long cautioned against?
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The final battle between the Lord and the kingdom of Satan will be about Marriage and the Family.
Sister Lucia dos Santos
[feminism/birth control] "is mixed up with a muddled idea that women are free when they serve their employers but slaves when they help their husbands." - G.K. Chesterton
Dear Newlyweds. by Pope Pius XII
"Is it not an ageless truth-a truth rooted in the very physical conditions of a woman's life, an inexorable truth proclaimed not only by the experience of distant centuries but also of those more recent in our era of consuming industrialization, of seeking for vindication, of competitive sport-that the woman makes the home and takes care of it and that the man can never replace her in this? This is the mission which nature and her union with man has imposed upon her for the good of society itself. Entice her away, lure her far from her family with one of those many attractions that vie to overcome and conquer, and you will see the woman leave her family hearth untended. Without this fire, the atmosphere of the home grows cold. For all practical purposes the home will cease to exist and will be transformed into a precarious refuge of a few hours. The center of daily life will move elsewhere for the husband, for herself, and for the children."
Dear Newlyweds. by Pope Pius XII
"Present living conditions resulting from today's economic and social status, due to the custom in the professions, arts and crafts of accepting men and women in workshops, offices and various employments, tend to engender and introduce on a practical scale a broad parity between the activities of a woman and those of a man, so that husbands and wives very often find themselves in a situation that almost approaches equality. Frequently a husband and wife practice similar professions and contribute an almost equal amount to the family budget through personal effort. Yet because of this same work they come to lead lives quite independent from each other.
Meanwhile, how are the children whom God sends them to be cared for, protected, educated, and instructed? You see them-we would not say abandoned-but very frequently entrusted to strange hands from their first years, formed and guided more by others than by their own mother who is far away from them practicing her profession. Is it any wonder that the sense of family authority begins to weaken and, as it loses hold, gradually disappears entirely, since the father's control and the mother's care are inadequate to create a happy and loving family life?"
Rerum Novarum, published on May 15, 1891:
Women, again, are not suited for certain occupations; a woman is by nature fitted for home-work, and it is that which is best adapted at once to preserve her modesty and to promote the good bringing up of children and the well-being of the family.
Quadragesimo Anno, promulgated in 1931:
In the first place, the worker must be paid a wage sufficient to support him and his family.[46] That the rest of the family should also contribute to the common support, according to the capacity of each, is certainly right, as can be observed especially in the families of farmers, but also in the families of many craftsmen and small shopkeepers. But to abuse the years of childhood and the limited strength of women is grossly wrong. Mothers, concentrating on household duties, should work primarily in the home or in its immediate vicinity. It is an intolerable abuse, and to be abolished at all cost, for mothers on account of the father’s low wage to be forced to engage in gainful occupations outside the home to the neglect of their proper cares and duties, especially the training of children.
Anti-Mary is such a good book! It helped me embrace modesty, femininity and reject feminism. I look forward to reading your latest book.
Hope you enjoy it!
I am so excited for this! Two of my favorite women whom I look up to together at the same time 😍
I wish I had friends like this
😔 Great video! Beautiful conversation.
Glad you enjoyed it!
A good woman is loyal and loving. She doesn’t manipulate or control others but she doesn’t let herself be manipulated or controlled. She knows her priorities and places God above everything else. She knows her dignity and the dignity of others. She understands the value of things that don’t earn money. She is not subservient but knows her role. She shows grace to herself and others. She’s not overly concerned with her looks. She’s sweet and strong because she responds to God. She is capable of sacrifice but lets God guide her even in this area or else she’ll get burned up. She is first like Mary and second like Martha. She loves. If she has children she is happy and if she can’t she is happy. She puts her heart on everything she does. She is the livesaver (ezer) of her husband as she brings the best out of him. In her marriage the goal is to become holy. She trusts in the Lord. He brings her intellectual fulfillment through different and wholesome means. She understands there is evil in the world channeled from males and females. She knows God is the source of all good and His power is limitless. She rejoices when evil is defeated and the glory of God shines. Finally she surrenders to God and only with His help she overcomes.
Submit to your husband, who is the secondary yet righteous authority over their wives.
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Love your wife as the primary authority requires of you: unto death. And this should come first, the husband should love his wife and then the wife should submit to her husband, because Christ loves the Church first and then the Church submits to Christ. Christ loves first.
*God be my judge and my witness! As you are*
You ladies rock
God bless y’all
When it comes to the wash and before the current times where washing and drying machines are available, people didn’t have the large amount of clothes that we have today. They didn’t wash their clothe as frequently as we do today. Your comment about pressing a button the washing machine make me look on the internet and the history of laundry is fascinating. The fist washing machine was made in 1767! And it had no buttons as it was manually driven. In reading more about the history of laundry it is actually fascinating!
I say let’s keep the washing and drying machines as a benefit to humankind 😊 but let’s stop buying so many clothes.
And let’s get community back. This is very important.
Looking forward to this conversation!! Cameron- can you please share the info your glasses? They are so beautiful on you!
Great interview. Thought for a split second she was Amy Coney Barrett. Little bit of resemblance there.
This was such a great conversation. I need to get her books! She’s amazing! 👏
Please do!
Brilliant
Thank you! Cheers!
I’m excited to read this book. Also, go Cameron for being the captain of the wrestling team! lol! Get it!
Oh thanks!! I was an aggressive soccer & softball player 1st 😅
Regarding satanic feminism … it is horrible and there is plenty of information in the web. Books and articles by scholars published by different reputable presses. I’m so glad that I’m now aware of this.
One important verse from the Bible:
Eph 6:12 For our struggle is not against enemies of blood and flesh, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers of this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
I have tried to keep this verse in my mind and heart since I became aware of it. Our fight is not against people but against evil spirits. I feel sadness towards satanists. They are so blind. Some of them make it out of that situation and then I’m glad. We always need to remember that God is greater and stronger than the evil one. God acts and he brings good from evil. Lord you’re so beautiful and powerful and you are our God forever!
Satan hates women and he is behind all divisions. The full realization of woman is a nightmare for him. That’s why the Virgin Mary is a nightmare for him. But the blessed mother was free. She responded only to God. Even when she did what Joseph told her, such as to wake up and fly to Egypt right away, she did it because she knew it was God’s will. She got pregnant without asking Joseph and he doubted her when she told him. But. she went to Egypt prompted by Joseph. What a couple! I wish my marriage were like that!
What was the name of her blog again, please?
It seems like the whole purpose of feminism was to make us interchangeable with men, so transgenderism and a refusal to define woman seems like a natural conclusion of the movement. However, it does conflict with the more public facing definitions of feminism and how most of us understood it (until recently). Loved this conversation!
From her various writings, one thing Dr Gress doesn’t seem to understand is that having a career does not make a woman a man or even like a man. At least the past three papal magisteriums have understood this. Pope John Paul II said that the feminine genius should be present in every profession, which cannot happen if women are expected to stay home and not have careers. He also did not say only non married women without children should be doing this but ALL women. In fact, he said that women who want to do this should be given an appropriate work schedule so that her family will not suffer - although arguably not every woman’s family will suffer from her working part time or even full time, and it is up to an individual family to prayerfully discern this. Most recently, paragraph 286 of Amoris Laetitia mentions that there is no shame in men performing childcare tasks in order to help accommodate his wife’s work schedule, which the Holy Father would not be saying if it were somehow sinful or unnatural for a woman to be working.
That said, I fully agree that the erosion of communal support for stay at home parents (of any gender) is a real loss. But I don't attribute this to feminism so much as I do the stagnation of wages and increasing need for both (or all) parents to work full time to support a family.
The two are mutually tethered together. When feminists pushed for women to enter the workforce, the labour doubled overnight creating an employers market, twice the labour means you can half or worse, the pay. Which is what happened. Then feminists pushed for female education preference and privilege which created numerous (functionally useless) study areas so the market became flooded with useless degrees, resulting in the accumulation of massive amounts of debt and the devaluing of undergraduate degrees to the point where it becomes entry level.
@@loganblackwood2922that’s actually not true. In the late 1970s and early 1980s, inflation caused wages to not be worth as much, and for women to therefore enter the labor market en masse to pick up the slack. Prices didn’t go back to normal for the same reason they’re not going back to normal after what’s been going on in the world now that’s caused another dramatic inflationary surge, because corporations see that people are still willing to pay those prices for things and so why should prices go back to normal? It means more profits for them. So the causality is in the direction worse pay (or rather the same pay that just wasn’t worth as much) -> women entering job market, not the other way around. Around the same time, in the United States, there was also massive union busting and a trend towards outsourcing what were hitherto considered good paying jobs to other countries so companies could take in greater profits.
As for your other claims, what data do you have to support of it? I would be interested in seeing your sources and learning more about these numerous “functionally useless” areas of study that didn’t exist before women started working outside the home that you allege have flooded the market. I take it these must be degrees that 1) didn’t exist before 1979-1982, so we can eliminate things like philosophy, English, or history (which in all fairness, without an advanced degree aren’t going to earn you very much money), and 2) that men wouldn’t be interested in earning and haven’t earned very much of, so we can eliminate things in the health sciences and data science. Really, all I can think of here is something like women’s studies, and according to the Department of Education, from 2014-2015, there were 1.9 million bachelors degrees conferred in the United States, and of those only 1,333 were in women’s studies. A minuscule percentage. Moreover, that year 7,782 degrees were conferred in ”area, ethnic, cultural, gender, and group studies,” which includes women’s studies - a measly 0.4 percent of all bachelor’s degrees and hardly enough to “flood” the market. Maybe you mean something like social media marketing? Although in fairness, that is a degree that arose out of a need that companies had and not the other way around. So, I’m not really sure that what you’re saying is accurate, but like I said, if you have data, I’d be interested in seeing it.
I encourage you to Read her book
@@cfradd I can't say that anything I see here inclines me to do so. This seems like shallow, under-researched, and incurious work. It's not engaged in any serious way with feminist scholarship. Her books are not peer-reviewed and are published by non-academic/non-scholarly presses that are "family-owned" (i.e. these are glorified vanity books).
@@cfraddHi! The problem I’m seeing is that Dr Gress accounts for the bad apples at the top of the feminist movement but she avoids talking about the real women at the bottom with real concerns that participated in the movement. Usually there is always a mix of good and evil in every human endeavor. I don’t think she and her books are unbiased. As for me I don’t want to go back. Right now we have problems that could be traced to feminism but also good things that came out of it. And I don’t see a willingness to acknowledge this or to save what is worth saving as we discard what is not.
As far as transgenderism and feminism goes it seems complicated and confusing. Some feminists are against trans rights and some are in favor of trans rights. I’ve seen videos is TH-cam we’re radical feminist are strongly against trans rights. And then again you can find articles of feminist support for trans rights. I don’t know what to make out of it but since I’m not a feminist or a trans right activist I’ll pass and just keep and eye on these issues.
You don’t have to embrace feminism because you have and advanced degree or because you work outside the home. Anything good that comes out of stuff that is bad is from God. And yes, it is well known that God will make good things come out of bad things. Praise God! So don’t embrace feminism but embrace what good God has brought out of it, such as your capacity to get a higher level education, your ability to work outside the home and your right to vote. Embrace this as coming from the Lord and oppose anyone that might want to take this away from you.
Your right to vote is not a good thing, higher institutional education is not an intrinsically good thing, and women always had the choice to work but only in extenuating circumstances
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My right to vote is a wonderfully good thing. As it is education which actually is good in itself. If you don't believe this then argue with the Church as she teaches that the following are acts of mercy:
Admonish the sinner. (Give correction to those who need it.)
*Instruct the ignorant. (Share your knowledge with others.)*
Counsel the doubtful. (Give advice to those who need it.)
Comfort the sorrowful. ...
Bear wrongs patiently. ...
Forgive all injuries. ...
Pray for the living and the dead.
As you can see teaching others is an act of mercy and receiving instruction is being the object of an act of mercy. This includes higher education. This is the list of good things that God has given me and all women in the west:
- Access to education at all levels
- Enjoyment of financial rights (inheritance, business ownership etc)
- Enjoyment of civil rights (the right to vote, the right to represent voters such as being the president or senator)
- Respect for my ideas and intellect and even for my own being (remember that there was a time when men wondered if women had souls, was it Plato or Aristoteles?)
- Access to good paying work (no, you can't convince me that work is necessarily antagonist to motherhood there are just to many examples that it is not such. Nevertheless, I will state that children do come first).
*I am not willing to part from any of the items listed above and thus I won't. I will fight for these and be victorious. Father have mercy on me a sinner. Help me to fight the good fight and give you glory. Lord I love you!*
@@user-ll3wf6bb6c the question of voting aside, here is what the Church teaches that should be weighed against saying careers outside of the home for mothers is a good thing. I think can't see a way that one could argue taking a mother out of the home and having children raised in daycare instead of by their parents is a metaphysically good thing. The Church appears to agree:
[feminism/birth control] "is mixed up with a muddled idea that women are free when they serve their employers but slaves when they help their husbands." - G.K. Chesterton
Dear Newlyweds. by Pope Pius XII
"Is it not an ageless truth-a truth rooted in the very physical conditions of a woman's life, an inexorable truth proclaimed not only by the experience of distant centuries but also of those more recent in our era of consuming industrialization, of seeking for vindication, of competitive sport-that the woman makes the home and takes care of it and that the man can never replace her in this? This is the mission which nature and her union with man has imposed upon her for the good of society itself. Entice her away, lure her far from her family with one of those many attractions that vie to overcome and conquer, and you will see the woman leave her family hearth untended. Without this fire, the atmosphere of the home grows cold. For all practical purposes the home will cease to exist and will be transformed into a precarious refuge of a few hours. The center of daily life will move elsewhere for the husband, for herself, and for the children."
Dear Newlyweds. by Pope Pius XII
"Present living conditions resulting from today's economic and social status, due to the custom in the professions, arts and crafts of accepting men and women in workshops, offices and various employments, tend to engender and introduce on a practical scale a broad parity between the activities of a woman and those of a man, so that husbands and wives very often find themselves in a situation that almost approaches equality. Frequently a husband and wife practice similar professions and contribute an almost equal amount to the family budget through personal effort. Yet because of this same work they come to lead lives quite independent from each other.
Meanwhile, how are the children whom God sends them to be cared for, protected, educated, and instructed? You see them-we would not say abandoned-but very frequently entrusted to strange hands from their first years, formed and guided more by others than by their own mother who is far away from them practicing her profession. Is it any wonder that the sense of family authority begins to weaken and, as it loses hold, gradually disappears entirely, since the father's control and the mother's care are inadequate to create a happy and loving family life?"
Rerum Novarum, published on May 15, 1891:
Women, again, are not suited for certain occupations; a woman is by nature fitted for home-work, and it is that which is best adapted at once to preserve her modesty and to promote the good bringing up of children and the well-being of the family.
Quadragesimo Anno, promulgated in 1931:
In the first place, the worker must be paid a wage sufficient to support him and his family.[46] That the rest of the family should also contribute to the common support, according to the capacity of each, is certainly right, as can be observed especially in the families of farmers, but also in the families of many craftsmen and small shopkeepers. But to abuse the years of childhood and the limited strength of women is grossly wrong. Mothers, concentrating on household duties, should work primarily in the home or in its immediate vicinity. It is an intolerable abuse, and to be abolished at all cost, for mothers on account of the father’s low wage to be forced to engage in gainful occupations outside the home to the neglect of their proper cares and duties, especially the training of children.
Casti Cannubii
...social, inasmuch as the wife being freed from the cares of children and family, should, to the neglect of these, be able to follow her own bent and devote herself to business and even public affairs; finally economic, whereby the woman even without the knowledge and against the wish of her husband may be at liberty to conduct and administer her own affairs, giving her attention chiefly to these rather than to children, husband and family.
75. This, however, is not the true emancipation of woman, nor that rational and exalted liberty which belongs to the noble office of a Christian woman and wife; it is rather the debasing of the womanly character and the dignity of motherhood, and indeed of the whole family, as a result of which the husband suffers the loss of his wife, the children of their mother, and the home and the whole family of an ever watchful guardian. More than this, this false liberty and unnatural equality with the husband is to the detriment of the woman herself, for if the woman descends from her truly regal throne to which she has been raised within the walls of the home by means of the Gospel, she will soon be reduced to the old state of slavery (if not in appearance, certainly in reality) and become as amongst the pagans the mere instrument of man.
Divini Redemptoris, published by Pope Pius XI in March 1937:
Communism is particularly characterized by the rejection of any link that binds woman to the family and the home, and her emancipation is proclaimed as a basic principle. She is withdrawn from the family and the care of her children, to be thrust instead into public life and collective production under the same conditions as man. The care of home and children then devolves upon the collectivity. Finally, the right of education is denied to parents, for it is conceived as the exclusive prerogative of the community, in whose name and by whose mandate alone parents may exercise this right.
LABOREM EXERCENS 1981
It will redound to the credit of society to make it possible for a mother-without inhibiting her freedom, without psychological or practical discrimination, and without penalizing her as compared with other women-to devote herself to taking care of her children and educating them in accordance with their needs, which vary with age. Having to abandon these tasks in order to take up paid work outside the home is wrong from the point of view of the good of society and of the family when it contradicts or hinders these primary goals of the mission of a mother26.
JPII's FAMILIARIS CONSORTIO (note the distinction between working women and wives/mothers):
While it must be recognized that women have the same right as men to perform various public functions, society must be structured in such a way that wives and mothers are not in practice compelled to work outside the home, and that their families can live and prosper in a dignified way even when they themselves devote their full time to their own family.
Furthermore, the mentality which honors women more for their work outside the home than for their work within the family must be overcome. This requires that men should truly esteem and love women with total respect for their personal dignity, and that society should create and develop conditions favoring work in the home.
Catechism of the Council of Trent, 1st ed. (Baronius Press, 2018). "The Duties of Wives:"
"On the other hand, the duties of a wife are thus summed up by the Prince of the Apostles: Let wives be subject to their husbands, that if any believe not the word, they may be won without the word by the conversation of the wives, considering your chaste conversation with fear. Let not their adorning be the outward plaiting of the hair, or the wearing of gold, or the putting on of apparel: but the hidden man of the heart in the incorruptibility of a quiet and meek spirit, which is rich in the sight of God. For after this manner heretofore the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection to their own husbands, as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him Lord. To train their children in the practice of virtue and to pay particular attention to their domestic concerns should also be especial objects of their attention. The wife should love to remain at home, unless compelled by necessity to go out; and she should never presume to leave home without her husband's consent. Again, and in this the conjugal union chiefly consists, let wives never forget that next to God they are to love their husbands, to esteem them above all others, yielding to them in all things not inconsistent with Christian piety, a willing and ready obedience.
The feminism they're discussing seems like a real straw man---only the shallowest, most consumption-driven form of feminism is represented here. In what universe is Cosmo (or Friends?!?!) a representative text for feminism? Certainly not in a scholarly one. What kind of "scholarship" does this "Institute" engage? What about the suffrage movement(s)? Women couldn't vote in Switzerland until the 1970s. Marital rape didn't become illegal in the US until *1993* (in my lifetime and that of the two speakers) after years of feminist advocacy. That didn't happen because of washing machines...
Very well said.
So why did feminism concentrate on pushing free sexuality on girls, CEO positions, but so little on issues you exposed?Maybe because it's not such a priority after all?!? Just thinking out loud :)
@@martina8241 The feminist movement(s) expended tremendous effort and resources to make these reforms possible. What makes you think otherwise? The fact that girlboss feminism (one of the shallow versions that these speakers tactically concentrate on) has become so predominant in the culture is not because it's supported by actual feminist thinkers but because it aids capitalism, fuels worker competition, erodes solidarity, and increases consumption.
@@martina8241there’s always evil mixed with good. Remember the parable of the wheat and the tares. We have to try to keep the wheat but until the end of the world the separation will not be whole. And dr Gress doesn’t seem to be unbiased
@@HonestCitizen-we1mh She is talking about marital rape. It is already very difficult to proof rape, marital rape is impossible to proof and it only became criminalized in 1993.
Women are weaker and more vulnerable than men. Women need protection against rape. I believe women when they say they have been raped. You can call me a feminist, I'm not.
This account of trans theory is either irresponsible or ill-informed.