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Old Garden Roses Tour
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2023
- Here's a recording of a walking tour May 28 at Fraser Valley Rose Farm - focused mainly one the early once-blooming roses. Timing is always tricky for a tour like this: we missed the earliest blooming Scots roses (they finished last week) but still only caught the front edge of some gallicas and damasks. My sincere apologies over the audio. The wind played havoc on our mics, and even with some filtering in post it's pretty annoying.
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I love how you showcase these lovely roses side by side! It makes it much easier to choose a favorite.
I agree ... Its incredible.
I enjoyed the tour a lot , especially when you introduced the rosa de Rescht and said it is named after a city in Iran, because I am from Rasht in north of Iran and I didn 't know there was such a rose named after my city.thank you for the very informative video.The world indeed has become a global village
I have a Rose de Rescht, and it is one of my favorites. It is compact and rounded, like the one in this video, and the scent is just amazing. I love it!
I have 2 plants of Rose de Rescht, and I really love them ❤
I have now watched this most beautiful video 7 times
so fun! I love seeing all the old roses, thanks for sharing this tour!
I moved into a house that has a rose bush that was taller than me and had "second story blooms" on it, the owners before me I believe weren't much of gardeners, Ive been chopping her back once a year little by little and this early spring I took it right down to about 2 feet. Its the happiest I've seen it! honestly I think before i started doing anything to it I watched as many as of your pruning videos as i could, its safe to say i think I've got it under control now! maybe i can finally get an ID on it this summer and see how well it grows with a fresh start!
Nicely done Jess!
Jason, these roses are just spectacular. Thank you for sharing this beautiful video.
Wow 🤩 I like roses ,that’s why I love watching your videos Sir Jason .I’m your avid fan from Japan 🇯🇵.
Thank you
Highly impressive rose collection,and your knowledge of each and every one Jason. Enjoyed the tour !
Thanks!
So beautiful! I really appreciated seeing the blooms side by side to compare their color and size. Its so hard to tell from closeup photos online and I really appreciated you showing mme Hardy next to Mme Plantier because i've noticed before that they look so similar, and since I have limited space in the garden I could only choose one. This helped me choose. Thank you!
You're so welcome. I love them both!
Lovely tour. I have an alba semi-plena in my Calgary garden, planted in 2000. No fragrance though (I was told by Holes Nursery in St. Albert it was one of the most fragrant). Oh well, it's very pretty with the bluish-green foliage. I also had a Stanwell Perpetual for many years, and I have The Polar Star, a modern rambler rose that climbs over 15 feet high and wide (needs lots of pruning in my urban backyard). Zone3b/4a.
Great video ! So many times i go to see what a named variety's growth habits are like, but nobody cares to take pictures, just a couple words that don't help. Not only do we get to see it, but we get your expert comments of what isn't physically apparent. SO HELPFUL ! Really like your choices for your collection, You're a true Rosaholic ! One interesting point that i think is worth highlighting is the fact that the Bourbon Roses are "strongly " believed to be the only naturally made hybrid out of all the repeating or remontant groups....Which blew my little brain after learning how hard it was to create this gene or habit that most people take for granted ! Once again, thanks for sharing. Really enjoy what you create for your channel ❣
Yes, Rosa x damascena 'Казанлък' is one of the most heavily scented of rose varieties, very sweet, musky, intoxicating and sharp with some geranium and Almond notes, it's even described as being slightly spicy. The damask rose is believed to be a hybrid between Rosa gallica and Rosa moschata, with some dabbling from Rosa fedschenkoana, that originated somewhere in western Asia.
For us in the UK, and southern Europe, old roses are probably better for us to grow, they're really amazing in terms of colour and scent, and are in a way, somewhat easier to grow than chinas and are also a little more disease resistant.
How I'd love to go on this tour. Jason, you are a treasure of information.
Many thanks I have grown a lot of old world roses you have a beautiful collection, lots of love from Australia.
You have a wonderful way of presenting the roses. You explain everything so well. And love how passionate you are about them! Thank you for the awesome videos😀
So nice of you
How fun! I'd love to be able to take this tour one day. 😍
Wonderful tour. It's so helpful to see the habit of the roses, which helps me to make choices. I have several of your roses, and I agree that Rose de Rescht is fantastic. It was one of the first three roses I acquired 20 years ago. I have three in bloom right now.
One thing that I found interesting. I read that it needs a good chop every few years (3 to 4?) I did it a couple of years back and the result is perfect shape. The best it has ever had.
I love that rose.
How far back do you cut it? I have one that is probably about 12-13 years old, and have pruned it lightly but have never really cut it back hard. It blooms beautifully, but the shape is getting a little wonky.
William Shakespeare and Madame Hardy, my two new favorite must have roses. Thank you for the tour. I’d like a mini tour featuring orange colored roses as well.
Nice to see all your old roses. I have some too. Gloria d’ Jion, Gloria Le France ( mauve pink double climber), Rosa de Retch, Varigata de Bologna, Baron d’ Girard lian, Paul’s Himalayan musk, Albertine. Love this time of year!
Nice collection!
I can see how passionate you are!
you are full of knowledge and such beautiful roses!
Thank you Jason, you have some very lovely roses. 🌷💚🙃
Thanks Judy
Wonderful tour and fascinating commentary.
Thanks Ellen
As you've heard, NS is burning. A 3/4 hr E or 1/2 hr W of me are 2 of the fires & we can all smell & see the smoke. Unusual that no fog has been coming into the yard frm the Atlantic since March frm below or behind my property & unheard of that I should water at all in May/June. Normally mid July to mid August I occasionally have to do my smaller potted plants but never the gardens or the lawns. Now, every pot daily & some new garden spaces. My big rose bushes only have very small clusters of leaf buds them, small bushes just nice stems so far. If we don't get rain not sure if fruit will develop on my trees. When I see all the blooms on your early roses I can see why you love what you do. So early, so much to admire. Thanks for sharing your tour. Love those funny mossy ones, the 3 corner hat of Napoleon too.
Yikes, that close eh? I guess some rain would be quite welcome for all sorts of reasons.
Jason, I want to go on a tour with the Rose Expert. I can't believe how advanced your roses are already. We had frost 3 times in the last week so my garden is really coming on slow this year.
We got a little luck with a warm stretch in early May. Last year was abnormally cool, so I sympathise!
Thank you for the lovely and informative tour :)
Jacques Cartier has lovely scent. I tried to grow Rose de Rescht twice, they died without ever blooming. Now that i know it has a blend of damask and gallica i'm going to get it again.
I just found old rose vines and very strange flowers in the woods in rural Louisiana. I`m gonna save them.
Wonderful video!!! I’d love to see more if these. I had Shakespeare 2000 in a previous home. What a spectacular red- that was almost black at times.
It was a little slow to establish in my heavy soil, but I'm glad I waited.
Awesome tour Jason.👌
Thank you Lisa for the video.🤙
What an excellent video!
I bought a Coupe d' Hebe bourbon before I knew what I was looking for...lol. It's small but doing great so just plan to enjoy its once- booming scent per year, train it as a climber (that'd be a great video, I'm told this shrub can be made into climber) and maybe add a clematis near it for yearly interest. Great tour! I enjoy your videos so much!
My favourite too Jason .. rose de rescht ..i was like .. i have that.. but i miss my damask pink left at my old house .. ( my heart bleeds for it.. i could’ve dug it up & bring it with me .. but did a cutting with others & the buyer of my house nicked the whole pot..you have a lot of damask type .. Portland & Galicia type similar to damask.. Jason you made my day .. thank you ..) which is for rose water & for gulkand making..(rose jam ).. it’s £40 here right now.. i bought it for £10 in 1995
I just filled my garden with old roses. Lots of buds but no blooms yet. After this tour I just can’t wait😂
That's awesome. Won't be long now.
I can smell them from here.
Obviously you've cultivated a large local following of people who respond to your showmanship.
Thanks Mortimer. I'm sure gardeners everywhere earn the same praise, but our local community in the Fraser Valley has been so supportive.
Excellent tour!
Thanks so much!
wow!!! incredible forms and colors!! I can't imagine all the perfume around there!
I have rose de rescht.. the fragrance is mind blowingly powerful
These old roses are the best except for their brief season.
Rosa damascena is the rose i’m talking about .. the damask rose water maker rose.. i asked my son to take me to 2 garden centres next wk. .. he was like .. i’ll buy it for u.. i can afford it but.. sweet boys of mine 30-26 age.. want to get me that one.. like how i wanted to get that moon down for them when they were little.. they know she has a craze for roses..& for that reason she loves Jason …in particular ..the one that man nicked.. you have a lovely collection there Jason.. most beautiful .. lots of love to you & family from London
I can't Believe You have The Yellow 💛 Rose 🌹 of Texas.
My Mother had an Entire Garden full of that particular 🌹.
I have never ever Seen that Rose 🌹 in My over 45+ yrs of Gardening.
If You happen to know where one can purchase one I would be "Overjoyed".
Sincerely Yours 🤠 Mr Severance,
"The Cake 😋 🍰🎂 🥳🎉 🎊 Man".
I would absolutely love going to the tour. Never seen so many old roses.
I have now ordered 1 damask damacina & 9 moss roses after being so inspired by this most beautiful ever video i’ve ever seen.. not available at 2 different garden centres.. but peter beale & Trevor white online had them..thank you very much Jason.. i can’t believe i’m gonna have them .. but most Will be delivered early November
Wonderful - I hope you enjoy them as much as I have
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm if all that i have ordered is not enough i went ahead & ordered 4 more damask roses yesterday.. Leda, kasanlik,Amilia & compte de chambord .. i want them all .. they are so so beautiful.. thank you Jason..with rose compost & tall pots i’ve ordered.. my bill has gone well over £500.. but i don’t have shoes & cloths & holidays passion.. just roses..
I enjoyed this very much
Thanks for sharing the rose tour with us! Just so you know, I noticed the wind by the roses moving more than I did hearing the wind in your mic. It wasn't an issue for me. 🌹I know you talked about rose perfumers, but did you talk about the different rose scents such as fruity, myrrh, old rose, etc. Sorry if I missed that.
Truly fantastic tour. Great information. Thank you..
Love it!! Thank you.
Great tour!
Wow, what a beautiful tour!
Thanks so much Yuliya!
Phantastic!!!!
Perfect video. I liked it. ❤
I appreciate the feedback Tarian
I love the history videos!
Wow! the 'Jacques Cartier' rose reminds me of a peony!
Thanks - yes, super dense in petals!
Thank you.
My pleasure Geraldine. Thanks for watching
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Gracias por compartir tus conocimientos.
Amazing property Jason I have a bunch of roses but my French isn't up to par and just call them Yellow Roses, Pink Roses, Red Roses, White Roses and Orange Roses.
God I wish I were there 😢; I hope to visit one day. I think it was a good idea to have a small snack and maybe add a permanent stand at the gift shop that features rose water and flavored snacks. I got hungry watching all the ladies walk around too. 😂
Thanks. Lisa's good that way - most business days we have a little snack bar with refreshments.
Thank you for sharing your roses. They are amazing. Every time I see your video, I learn something new 😊.
I have been watching a lot of your videos and didn't see pink Ladybank, I have had it since spring of 2000 and would love to share some with them. Is is to your interest?
Blessings
Thanks so much for thinking of me - Banks is such a large rose that there's a limited market for it, and the preference is clearly for yellow, so I think I'll pass.
Thanks
My favourite is double delight.
The first rose İ think first growing from İsparta city in Turkiye.
My favourite deep purple rose would be blackberry nip. I don't have near as many as you. Only got a tiny garden compared to yours.
Thank you for this tour; very interesting to see all these blooms together, and to hear your discussion of them.
I do love Mme. Plantier. She was the first rose I had real success with; she's very tough as well as beautiful. I do find her a bit thornier than you describe, though. Is Mme. Hardy also a less thorny rose?
No, if anything I find Madame Hardy far thornier
Great video. I have a long hedge of old roses that I started from a shovel-full shared by a neighbor nearly 30 years ago. I’m still unsure of the identification, possibly Desiree Parmentier. It’s a show stopper on the sidewalk of my Denver CO urban garden and couldn’t be easier to care for. Since it’s a once bloomer, it’s finished before the Japanese beetles hatch. This year I plan to take it down to 2 ft for a refresh, removing old canes, etc. but until now I’ve done nothing but harvest flowers and photograph it.
Nice!
I think Nepolians Hat "the cresting" has the same scent as most of the Moss roses, you know the pine pitch scent! Madame P. is 1 of my favorite large roses. Alas and Moss are the best classes of OGR in my book! I thoroughly ENJOYED your tour!!!! Seeing a rose that I've had but live on a place way to small for now is like visiting old friends!! I've had all you've shown. Persian Yellow died from black spot defoliation repeatedly that summer and didn't come back. I "think, cringe" you have Persian Yellow. I think The Yellow Rose of Texas has less petals and smaller leaves being part Scot. That must have been a shot gun wedding!!!....youin here gots my lassie in the family way you consarn brown hairy Persian varmit!!! Your gunna marry my lassie or get your head blown clean offen your scoundrel shoulders!! The baby was the YROT! Yes I have seen way to many Yosemite Sam cartoons!!!😱😱😱🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💛💛💛💛💛💛💛
My jaques Cartier at my London house was 5 ft tall & 6 ft wide .. was trailing away with 2000 flowers on it everywhere & i used to give it tones of compost at the roots of it .. didn’t know u feed them too so no feed given ever..but just the compost was making it go mad
Thanks. Mine are still a little young and I haven't been as aggressive with feeding as I could.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm because i’d taken a cutting of it which was sprouting away nicely & the man who bought my house stole my cuttings pot with many others breaking through as well .. after 5 yrs. here at the new house.. i went nuts & got 31 other roses including jacques cartier.. it has 5 sticks on it & waiting for spring .. i suppose “ it’s your morning whenever you wake up “ ..it had taken me 23 yrs. for the old one to grow that big
You have such a beautiful collection of roses. It’s great that you’re able to offer tours.
I’ve been looking at DA roses for my yard but I’m sure you know our selection in Canada seems to be limited. Do you know if roses can be imported from the US by individuals after being purchased domestically within the US. So carried or shipped but I’m wondering about the importing process. I imagine there are a number of hoops to jump through. I understand this might be beyond your usual questions 😅
Thanks so much
No problem. The one serious requirement is for a phytosanitary inspection report. This cost me around $100 last time I imported and it's a bit of a hassle for the supplier (because they have to book an inspector - usually from the USDA) so some sellers just won't bother. The DA assortment issue may settle down a bit - the grower was shipping directly to customers in Canada, and then decided it was too much trouble, so now they're using a single distributor (in Langley, actually). This left some customers scrambling this year, but I've seen a lot of new retailers filling in the gap for next season. If you can find what you want with local sellers this year that's great, but it might make some sense to pre-order your Austin rose for spring of 2024. We'll be starting up pre-orders in the next month or so.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you so much for the explanation. I’ve been watching my local garden stores this season and I’ve found it very interesting to see they all seem to have variations of the same assortment. (Of course not including the two I’m interested in 😋🤷♀️)
Thanks for the suggestion of preordering for next year. That’s what I’ve been thinking too but I have family who travels a lot who wanted to help.
Thank you thank you thank you for your time and explanation
Uh ... "The Yellow Rose of Texas" was a song about a mixed (black and white) race woman. A predominance of white blood gave the skin a yellow caste; and a person with this skin color was called a High Yeller. Later, the state song of Texas made the subject literal; but there is doubt that Harison's Yellow was the rose.
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Beautiful collection! Do you sell all these roses?
Yes, we propagate from them all in small batches - so we probably never have everything in stock for sale at once, but we do aim to make all available.
Rose dd rescht can it be propagated from stdm or grafted.
Here we hav it as grafted
Okay Jason I very need Damascena rose did you have cutting
I do propagate from cuttings on the farm
Did you sale cuttings
Hi Jason,
By any chance, would you have a plant of the Musk rose (r. moschata)?? Long ago, I grew an Austin by the name of 'Molineux' which had a strong musk-tea fragrance. So I'm wondering if rosa moschata has the same fragrance as 'Molineux'. Is the fragrance of this particular Austin cultivar considered "musk"?
From where did 'Tuscany Superb' get its gorgeous maroon pigment?
Between the beautiful Munstead Wood, William Shakespeare 2000 and Tuscany Superb, the latter wins in terms of color.
Thanks Mickey. I stopped growing the species R. moschata because 'Darlow's Enigma' was similar enough and was a far better performer in my garden. I haven't grown Molineux to maturity yet, so not sure how they compare. I'm with you: love Tuscany Superb!
Jason, when you were showing the 'Great Maiden's Blush' I noticed some pale spots on the leaves. This is a regular occurrence on my Harison's yellow. What causes it? What can i do to fix it? Or do I even need to worry about it?
Leafhopper damage. I see it early in the growing season, but their numbers are reliably brought into check to I don't bother with any controls. Unfortunately, the damage stays quite visible and they seem far mor attracted to some varieties than others - my top example would be 'Topaz Jewel' which just doesn't come out of spring without significant scraping to the leaves. No threat to the health of the plants.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Good to know. Thanks so much! I hope that some year soon you will consider making Stanwell Perpetual available for mail order. I so desperately want one!
Thanks for another wonderfully educational video Jason! Incidentally, I have a munstead wood rose by D.A and noticed the same habit as your Belle de Crecy, and because of it, has been prone to mildew despite the practice of good grooming techniques 😭. It has a stunning scent but I may have to chuck it because of poor disease resistance here in zone 9b U.S. Also, it hasn't put out as many new canes despite being exposed to 8 hours of sunlight, as well as being on regular water and feeding schedules. Most D.A roses tend to have massive growth habits here in Cali. But my experience with this particular rose has been underwhelming at best. Do you have any suggestions for a replacement? Thanks as always 😊
Thanks. I haven't grown Munstead Wood, so I can't say on that one. The William Shakespeare 2000 I displayed took quite a long time to "settle in" in my heavy soil, so I wonder if it's worth giving Munstead a little more time.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm will do! I would hate to toss munstead wood out anyhow. The blooms have an intense velvety red akin to Mister Lincoln that rivals its scent as well. But the foliage... I lament their condition every spring despite efforts to stave off fungal problems😭 Thanks Jason. Have a blessed and wonderful day. Cheers!
i want a kazanlik and a Ispahan
Here in New Zealand I have a rose named Elina a light yellow colour and it is apparently known for its health. It has been the healthiest one in my garden and lived in my garden the longest. Is it healthy in your area?
Not bad - it gets a little black spot, but that doesn't slow it down much
What was the one that is a cabbage rose popular in Morocco and France? I did not see a box with the name.?
The one I have in the garden in Gros Choux d'Hollande. Rose centifolia is the more general name of the group.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm i see why you were unsure of pronunciation!
Who new Fraser VAlley was so noisy with helicopters and trains? Lol
Lol. Yeah. It's taken me plenty of extra scenes to hide that in past videos.
I'd like to try a gallica rose, but seeing the size of your Charles de Mills can be intimidating. Can their spread and suckering be controlled by pruning or are there varieties that are less aggressive spreaders?
It's one of those scenarios where choosing a grafted rose can be an advantage if you keep the bud union at or above ground level, the scion's stems never begin to develop suckers. An alternative is to go for near relatives, like the Portlands or modern reproductions like the Davis Austin roses. I like William Shakespeare 2000 as a (repeat blooming) analogy to Charles de Mills.
Excellent tour!
Thanks Teresa!