A massive thankyou to Soundstop for providing some of the materials for this project. They're a small UK-based business and were really helpful throughout the whole process. Go and check them out at gosforthhandyman.com/links/soundstop
Hi Andy great vid as usual my partner and I dont have the best of hearing to the point that my neighbour mentions she hears our tele .The adjoining wall is the only wall we can mount the tele bracket to,dont know what tele weighes but would the sound proofing compromise fitting the tele bracket.
@@paulwheatley5711 acoustic Fields Dennis Foley, if you want to know anything and everything about acoustics, diffusers, sound dampening not soundproofing because soundproofing doesn't exist, that is just an industry term,
@@Clodhopping hhhhhmmmm…. I now what you mean, my local town in Hertfordshire the farmer did the same thing…… 1,000 houses, fortunately there still a good half a mile between them and me…. It still beats listening to the next door neighbor’s tv when trying to sleep at night.
Andy, greetings from North Carolina. Thank you for sharing this entire renovation with us. You are covering so many different things. it has been very enlightening and I am enjoying it immensely.
As a plasterer/Builder for 15+ years before new tings like this came about we would first fill in all holes like you have with Bonding then Drywall adhesive the whole walls and stick one sheet of soundproof board on the wall (like a huge tile) then get some roof battens and screw them to the wall (through the board) then Mastic down each side of the battens. Then install the 50mm rockwall and tape over the joints. Then install another sheet of Soundproof board making sure not to have the same direction lines in the previous layer of board (staggered joints) then Multi finish the board. Works every time for the DB you’re looking for. I bet its also a far bit cheaper. Keep up the good work! These houses really are built well. You can’t go wrong with a old House If you are going to do it this way make sure you don’t leave any mastic on the wall/joints as plaster WON’T stick and will drag in to the other wet plaster (annoying the plasterer Massively)
I tried this as I had some spare board (just regular plasterboard) and rockwool and I found it very effective. I re-did it with acoustic plasterboard and it did the trick for a fraction of the cost of the materials in the video. To the extent it made soundproofing all the party wall hotspots affordable and worth doing.
What i love about this project is that you make sensible upgrades and don't fix what's not broken. For most of us suckers cost is an issue. Oh and you need to convince your next door neighbor to do the same sound proofing :)
You are not wrong when you say that stuff is heavy. I installed tecsound 50 and sound stop 6mm rubber underlay under a laminate floor, and carrying the rolls and packs all up the stairs by myself was a huge shoulder ache (hundreds and hundreds of kgs). Btw, listening to your videos and reading the comments I learn so many new terms :D Inglenook, Furring strips, lath and plaster, constantly having to pause and google things hah
Nice job Andy i tell ya what i wont mind moving in any house you have renovated because i know ill have zero work to do because you would have already done it to such a great quality. im loving this house renovation project and cant wait to see the finished house keep up the good work Mr Mac
Very informative video, we are in the process of renovating our semi-detached bungalow we will definitely be using this system and no doubt returning to your video along the way 👍🏼
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Love the videos! @Gosforth Handyman we did the same 3 years ago but with a slight variation, we have used 50mm RW5 Rockwool with rsilient bars and Green Glue in-between the two layers of Soundblock plasterboard and I can say it works very well. In the future I would use tecsound instead of greenglue as i think it would give better results and its less messy. Interesting fact - we only got a proper soundproofing when we covered the chimney, doing the alcoves only had a small effect in the 1930s house.
Really enjoying your videos Andy- very helpful. We live in a Edwardian terraced property (just over water in Low Fell as it happens!) ; I thought when we bought it that these old properties would have good sound insulation!…but no, you can hear voices clearly. I am halfway through doing our alcoves down one side of the house (and underfloor sound deadening). I have initially used the Soundproofing store to get 30mm thick straight to wall soundboards and it seems also to work quite well - but as you point out it depends on what outcome you want vs space lost. I might upgrade to the isolation clips for the second part (upstairs) though..🤔.
Fitted wardrobes floor to ceiling in front of the offending walls, It's a good way of utilizing the lost space when sound proofing. It also helps to bock up the chimney in the room, sound can come out of there too, but make a hole in the loft part to help stop damp if the chimney pot is open
Really good video i did my living room and bedroom walls similar to this method. Alot of people forget to insulate the floor which im glad we did ours also as can only help. Its really helped and glad we did our walls and if i moved house would do again. I went ott ad used the acoustic putty round the sockets too
You did a fantastic job at simplifying and demystifing the process.i was going to do this a while ago but it can all become overwhelming with the choice of methods. Thank you for yr time to share your knowledge.kind regards M
Great job Andy and very informativei couldn’t see how you fixed each layer of plasterboard to the metal strips - how is this done? Many thanks and enjoy your videos, always sound and practical advice 👌
Andy, I didn't think I would get owt from this but watched it because of how well you explain things. I didn't think you could stop noise coming in from next door, now I'm thinking it it worth me doing this to my walls to stop the grandkids and bl**dy dogs next door. Thanks matey... Paul
What made you go for the direct to wall vs the SM20 Panels? The SM20 panels outperform the genieclip direct to wall and I think they're about the same price? Also much easier to install as they just spray on stick to the wall, no holes or drilling. Great video BTW, can't wait to use soundstop for my project in the next few weeks.
Great idea if you're neighbours are noisy or got pet's. I had problems myself over the years with neighbors so thanks for sharing 🤠🤠🤠. How much extra did it cost
I need to do this (in our Victorian house) for our bedroom which adjoins my neighbour's bathroom. Can hear *everything*. The wall is single leaf bricks laid on edge(!) because it was built as an internal wall before the house was divided. There are sockets in the wall too which I hate dealing with.
id be interested to know the EPC for this property, as this method i can see being used on the inside of all external walls for increased thermal performance.
Nice video. Just done the same ourselves in 4 alcoves plus a bedroom wall. It's good stuff. Unbelievably heavy like you say the tecsound, I'm amazed they can sell it in the width it is. Manual handling friendly it is not!
@@defected69 yes and no. In our bedroom it’s worked amazingly. Blocks absolutely everything on the large party wall. Downstairs though where we put it in alcoves on the other side with other neighbours it has significantly reduced it and it’s defiantly better, but we still get a lot of flanking noise from stomping around through the floor unfortunately. 1905 solid wall terrace.
Used a similar system in an end of terrace victorian property, after sound proofing the walls, I can't stress enough how important it is to consider the underfloor voids. After spending money on the wall system and being tight on budget I found the best solution to be old books with the spine facing away from the adjoining wall, about 4 rows of them, in the joist void, a small gap (millimetres) between each row. You can use the different thickness of books (page numbers) to create a stack that fillings the gap, but doesn't touch the floor boards above, worked really well. The health and safety wizards probably would have a heart attack, but as the floors are all stripped wood, really does it matter? Great video.
Hi Andy. This is the 1st video that has given me confidence to attempt such a project. When you screw the plasterboard to the metal bars, what sort of screws do you need and how easy is to screw into the metal? Also, how do you cut the plasterboard to size. Thanks
I could do with a bit of that, my neighbour likes to sing Elvis on his Karaoke machine the same song over and over sometimes hehe. Aslong as he'll put up with any shenanigans on my side of the fence I dont give a flying fig.
if you want to hand something to the wall now, you presumably need to go through all the layers to get to the brick right? Or would you advise against piercing this wall if you can help it?
Cheers Paul! I personally think this would perform a bit better but I don't think there would be much in it. Limited space for the Tecsound in normal dryline boxes. 👍
I have terrible problems with sound coming from my nextdoor neighbour. I've insulated my walls the best I can with Rockwool insulation and a layer of plasterboard. This has helped but the sound still seems to be travelling under the floorboards, as I can literally hear them talking TWO ROOMS AWAY! The wall directly connected to them is insulated and OK and much better, but in another room on the other side of my living room I can still hear them! Very, very IRRITATING!! I'm thinking I should of ripped the floor up years ago and stuffed Rockwool inbetween the joists! Do you think that would of helped?
Fantastic video as always! 👍👍 I’ve Been enjoying watching all of these through lockdowns and beyond and I’ve been picking up tips as I’m slowly renovating my own Victorian solid wall mid terraced house! -One question I did have was what is the damp risk associated with having the (I’m guessing) highly non-breathable mass loaded vinyl in between? Doesn’t it stop the old wall from breathing?
meanwhile, inside the neighbours house... he was yammering on about building some kind of soundproofing for a couple of days, but now he's gone very quiet...
I know the feeling when they complained i said it’s your fault stop shouting at each other it’s soundproofing or led zeppelin and i mean it i wanted to move out
I was surprised to see the socket attached to the original wall - does it not transfer the vibrations? I’d have used a hollow wall box in the new wall on the assumption it was more isolated.
No - it's not touching the 'new' wall so there's little or no flanking transmission. Although in an ideal world if it was of concern just don't put a socket there since any hole in the wall is a weak point. 👍
I had a large shared wall insulated - very similar techniques and materials. The firm that did it used acoustic boxes that are like dry liner boxes, but with rubber around the entry holes, so there’s no connection from the surface to the wall behind.
Any advice on sound proofing ceilings . I stay in a flat , and can hear the people up above speaking , nothing between the ceiling and there floors , just a 4 inch empty space , Thanks
Why did you not use a dry lining pattress box for the socket cutting only the plasterboard and leave everything behind intact? Maybe with some of the vinyl foam on the back of the box?
Me watching this and realising that the £6k sound proofing job we commissioned was done wrong and no wonder it hasn't worked :( Will DIY it myself next time
Great video Andy. Have had this bookmarked until I needed to do my own project and now is that time. Just wondering if you applied the skirting as normal and if you knew whether there would still be sound bleeding through the internal wall to the adjoining wall..?
Nice thorough work! I did all the internal walls & 3rd party wall with soundcoat & then dot dabbed to that. Wasnt going for ultra sound proofing, but the house was back to bare brick & we noticed with the last house that dot dab let's an awful lot of noise through. Seems to have worked well.
@@GosforthHandyman Yes, it gives a nice uniform barrier underneath. 3rd party wall had a few holes that it covered nicely. I'm not plasterer but managed to put 30 bags of soundcoat on without having ever done it before. As the ceilings were down it meant I could pretty much cover from downstairs to upstairs with no gap.
So important having good soundproofing. Unfortunately I can hear everything my neighbours do, muffled conversation, sneezes, coughs, sex, even his thunderous snoring ! My house is a semi detached built in 1953.
Hi where are you based ,we cover the northwest and Greater London. We are professional recording studio soundproofers who also undertake domestic jobs. Happy to help
I have no idea about sound proofing, so this is just a general enquiry and not a criticism. Would the electrical back boxes be better mounted to the furring channel (obviously mounted at correct height before boarding and then exposed after by cutting box into boards) and thus keeping them fully isolated? The 2 layers for sound board should give you the required 25mm and bring the box more level.
The backbox doesn't actually touch the new front wall (other than via the screws) so there should be very little sound transmission via flanking. So the only sound getting through would be airborne and I think you'd get similar levels using other methods. Don't think there'd be an audible difference. 👍
Considering that two layers of heavy plasterboard and a layer of very heavy tecsound are all just hanging on lightweight channel and wall screws, could you tile on top of it ?
hmm would the socket not have been better as a drylining box attached to the plasterboard rather than the metal box on the masonry? seems latter would bridge more sound
Their SM20 system seems to provide equal if not better soundproofing to the Genie Clip system, with less work involved. Why would anyone use the Genie Clip?
why no dry lining box? surely that would have been more beneficial than a standard box as you would have been able to leave the rockwall in place then just apply matting to the backside of the box. im not sure if it really would have made a night and day difference to the noise levels but just thought it may have been, also you would not need 150mm socket screws lol. is that matting a risk inside that socket? im not sure what reg's are on it?
I'm not sure it would make much difference. Metal would be naturally more soundproof than plastic and the deeper back allows for more layers of Tecsound. Tecsound is Euroclass B fire rated I think. 👍
You already have two big cavities there, back to back, and air is a pretty good sound insulator as long as the wall isn't resonating, which brick won't.
What Tony said. The chimney breast itself is already pretty soundproof providing it's properly blocked up. An open inglenook is always a weak spot though. 👍
@GosforthHandyman i can hear my neighbours in my bedroom when they are in their living room. I noticed the sound booms out of the chimney breast more than the alcoves
Amazing demonstration 👍🏾 I have the problems with party wall, it drives me crazy. If you don't mind roughly how much was the total cost of the bedrooms for sound proofing in materials? And which one is a better system for soundproofing upstairs or downstairs in your opinion? Cheers
I'd imagine it would be the same situation as dot and dab minus the possibility of drilling into blockwork or brickwork behind the plasterboard, but even then you'd probably only get away with fairly light items. But hanging a heavy TV on these type of walls would be out of the question.
Great job, brilliant! I have the exact same problem in my 1920's house with alcoves that allow the sound through, really helpful video, thanks. Will you be filming the next alcove project with the stud wall ?
Hi - just wondered how you found the noise reduction after it was finished. We want to block out banging doors and other noise from next door and have a house similar to this - would you recommend?
Can you let me know where to buy those new "invisible" ear defenders please ;-) In all seriousness though, please wear ear protection. You are going to have serious hearing problems in later life if you don't and once damaged you won't be able to do much about it. Other than that it was really interesting to see how you went about this project, thanks for the upload and the series. Looking forward to the kitchen floor one, I hope to god you wore ear defenders when breaking that floor up!
Looking to do this for my front room, going to have my HIfi in there and also want to stop the sound of next doors dog. Quick question, any benefit on removing existing plaster first to regain some of the lost depth??
Love the contents as always. Don't know if this is relevant but there is a Tom Scott video about British content creators needing to put Ad or Advert in the video title if you received payment, either directly or in the firm of goods or services, on TH-cam. I didn't notice if you put up something at start as don't care myself but did notice it wasn't in the title, when I looked. If you don't care, or believe you have a legitimate reason it's not relevant, then all good.
By my understanding (and the rules largely make no sense saying things like #gifted is insufficient and you can't have #ad at the end of the title in case the title is truncated on certain screens etc etc.)... if the video was specifically about Soundstop (e.g. a review of Soundstop where they gifted me product to make the review) then that would need declared as an ad. As this is a video about soundproofing alcoves and not specifically about Soundstop, where other brands are mentioned such as GenieClip, Everbond and Tecsound (who also didn't pay me anything) then the whole video can't be declared as an ad. It's all a bit ridiculous really since technically if DeWalt gave me a drill then EVERY video where I used that drill would need to be declared as an ad. Fortunately DeWalt give me squat, so it's a non-issue... but technically Evolution gave me that chop saw that I used in this vid. So... I guess I'll see them in court. 🤣🙄
A massive thankyou to Soundstop for providing some of the materials for this project. They're a small UK-based business and were really helpful throughout the whole process. Go and check them out at gosforthhandyman.com/links/soundstop
Hi Andy great vid as usual my partner and I dont have the best of hearing to the point that my neighbour mentions she hears our tele .The adjoining wall is the only wall we can mount the tele bracket to,dont know what tele weighes but would the sound proofing compromise fitting the tele bracket.
@@paulwheatley5711 acoustic Fields Dennis Foley, if you want to know anything and everything about acoustics, diffusers, sound dampening not soundproofing because soundproofing doesn't exist, that is just an industry term,
How much did this cost for those two walls?
Wow wish I had this when I lived in a terraced house! I moved to the countryside and bought a house surrouded by fields!
I did that and the farmer sold up and left me surrounded by new-build houses...
@@Clodhopping hhhhhmmmm…. I now what you mean, my local town in Hertfordshire the farmer did the same thing…… 1,000 houses, fortunately there still a good half a mile between them and me…. It still beats listening to the next door neighbor’s tv when trying to sleep at night.
Without intending to sound cynical, I hope they’re still fields in 10 years time and not a housing estate.
@@robplazzman6049 they’re getting closer!
Andy, greetings from North Carolina. Thank you for sharing this entire renovation with us. You are covering so many different things. it has been very enlightening and I am enjoying it immensely.
Thank you and greetings to North Carolina! 👍👍
As a plasterer/Builder for 15+ years before new tings like this came about we would first fill in all holes like you have with Bonding then Drywall adhesive the whole walls and stick one sheet of soundproof board on the wall (like a huge tile) then get some roof battens and screw them to the wall (through the board) then Mastic down each side of the battens. Then install the 50mm rockwall and tape over the joints. Then install another sheet of Soundproof board making sure not to have the same direction lines in the previous layer of board (staggered joints) then Multi finish the board. Works every time for the DB you’re looking for. I bet its also a far bit cheaper. Keep up the good work! These houses really are built well. You can’t go wrong with a old House
If you are going to do it this way make sure you don’t leave any mastic on the wall/joints as plaster WON’T stick and will drag in to the other wet plaster (annoying the plasterer Massively)
I tried this as I had some spare board (just regular plasterboard) and rockwool and I found it very effective. I re-did it with acoustic plasterboard and it did the trick for a fraction of the cost of the materials in the video. To the extent it made soundproofing all the party wall hotspots affordable and worth doing.
What i love about this project is that you make sensible upgrades and don't fix what's not broken. For most of us suckers cost is an issue. Oh and you need to convince your next door neighbor to do the same sound proofing :)
You are not wrong when you say that stuff is heavy. I installed tecsound 50 and sound stop 6mm rubber underlay under a laminate floor, and carrying the rolls and packs all up the stairs by myself was a huge shoulder ache (hundreds and hundreds of kgs).
Btw, listening to your videos and reading the comments I learn so many new terms :D Inglenook, Furring strips, lath and plaster, constantly having to pause and google things hah
Nice job Andy i tell ya what i wont mind moving in any house you have renovated because i know ill have zero work to do because you would have already done it to such a great quality. im loving this house renovation project and cant wait to see the finished house keep up the good work Mr Mac
Thank you! Also can't wait to see it finished! 🤣
Very informative video, we are in the process of renovating our semi-detached bungalow we will definitely be using this system and no doubt returning to your video along the way 👍🏼
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Thank you and a big welcome to Ohio! Most of my drumming stuff is on th-cam.com/users/beginnerdrums 👍
Love the videos! @Gosforth Handyman we did the same 3 years ago but with a slight variation, we have used 50mm RW5 Rockwool with rsilient bars and Green Glue in-between the two layers of Soundblock plasterboard and I can say it works very well. In the future I would use tecsound instead of greenglue as i think it would give better results and its less messy. Interesting fact - we only got a proper soundproofing when we covered the chimney, doing the alcoves only had a small effect in the 1930s house.
What kind of soundproofing materials did you apply to the chimney breast section?
It’s like you read my mind! I’ve been wanting to do that and I am right in the middle of a renovation. Perfect!
As my French daughter in law taught me, I go to bed less stupid. Great video, Andy and thanks for sharing 🌞
Thank you Ray! 👍👍
Great system. I have studied this subject in some detail and I think you have nailed it !
Cheers! It's worked really well. 👍
Fantastic video. Saved me a lot of time collecting empty egg cartons.
Really enjoying your videos Andy- very helpful. We live in a Edwardian terraced property (just over water in Low Fell as it happens!) ; I thought when we bought it that these old properties would have good sound insulation!…but no, you can hear voices clearly. I am halfway through doing our alcoves down one side of the house (and underfloor sound deadening). I have initially used the Soundproofing store to get 30mm thick straight to wall soundboards and it seems also to work quite well - but as you point out it depends on what outcome you want vs space lost. I might upgrade to the isolation clips for the second part (upstairs) though..🤔.
Fitted wardrobes floor to ceiling in front of the offending walls, It's a good way of utilizing the lost space when sound proofing. It also helps to bock up the chimney in the room, sound can come out of there too, but make a hole in the loft part to help stop damp if the chimney pot is open
A very good step-by-step video and well explained. Thanks.👍
How did this hold up ? Is there an updated video
Really good video i did my living room and bedroom walls similar to this method. Alot of people forget to insulate the floor which im glad we did ours also as can only help. Its really helped and glad we did our walls and if i moved house would do again. I went ott ad used the acoustic putty round the sockets too
Great stuff - I'm pleasantly surprised by how much difference it's made! 👍
@@GosforthHandyman that house will looke so nice when done love the size of the garden
A very sound job👍
I'm hearin' ya! 🤣
Oh dear... 🤦♂️😂
Bah dum tss
You did a fantastic job at simplifying and demystifing the process.i was going to do this a while ago but it can all become overwhelming with the choice of methods. Thank you for yr time to share your knowledge.kind regards M
Great job Andy and very informativei couldn’t see how you fixed each layer of plasterboard to the metal strips - how is this done? Many thanks and enjoy your videos, always sound and practical advice 👌
Andy, I didn't think I would get owt from this but watched it because of how well you explain things. I didn't think you could stop noise coming in from next door, now I'm thinking it it worth me doing this to my walls to stop the grandkids and bl**dy dogs next door. Thanks matey... Paul
Ha ha thanks Paul and good luck with those dogs! 🤣
Watch out for asbestos bloody everywhere in house up until late 90s found it alot I used to do demo work
I really like the music you use during the time lapse footage.
Cheers! Think that's "The End Of Summer" by Ave Air 👍
What made you go for the direct to wall vs the SM20 Panels? The SM20 panels outperform the genieclip direct to wall and I think they're about the same price?
Also much easier to install as they just spray on stick to the wall, no holes or drilling.
Great video BTW, can't wait to use soundstop for my project in the next few weeks.
Great idea if you're neighbours are noisy or got pet's. I had problems myself over the years with neighbors so thanks for sharing 🤠🤠🤠. How much extra did it cost
I need to do this (in our Victorian house) for our bedroom which adjoins my neighbour's bathroom. Can hear *everything*. The wall is single leaf bricks laid on edge(!) because it was built as an internal wall before the house was divided.
There are sockets in the wall too which I hate dealing with.
Can you hang anything heavy off the wall once completed? Just thinking of a large party wall say in a kitchen where you want to have cupboards.
I'd consider lining the walls with ply instead of plasterboard... possibly? 👍
id be interested to know the EPC for this property, as this method i can see being used on the inside of all external walls for increased thermal performance.
Nice video. Just done the same ourselves in 4 alcoves plus a bedroom wall. It's good stuff. Unbelievably heavy like you say the tecsound, I'm amazed they can sell it in the width it is. Manual handling friendly it is not!
Was there much improvement? I've read so many conflicting things on sound proofing.
@@defected69 yes and no. In our bedroom it’s worked amazingly. Blocks absolutely everything on the large party wall. Downstairs though where we put it in alcoves on the other side with other neighbours it has significantly reduced it and it’s defiantly better, but we still get a lot of flanking noise from stomping around through the floor unfortunately. 1905 solid wall terrace.
Is that the recommended method for installing the backbox??? I would have thought a dry lining box with insulation behind would have been better.
Used a similar system in an end of terrace victorian property, after sound proofing the walls, I can't stress enough how important it is to consider the underfloor voids. After spending money on the wall system and being tight on budget I found the best solution to be old books with the spine facing away from the adjoining wall, about 4 rows of them, in the joist void, a small gap (millimetres) between each row. You can use the different thickness of books (page numbers) to create a stack that fillings the gap, but doesn't touch the floor boards above, worked really well. The health and safety wizards probably would have a heart attack, but as the floors are all stripped wood, really does it matter? Great video.
Interesting! Were the books just sitting on the ceiling underneath?
@@GosforthHandyman it was a lathe and plaster ceiling so sitting on the peaks of the plaster that swished through from below.
Thank you for such a great video. I am going to do the same method for the bedroom. What screws did you use to attach the second set of plasterboard?
Shouldn't you leave an air gap between the plasterboard and the rockwool behind?
Hi Andy. This is the 1st video that has given me confidence to attempt such a project. When you screw the plasterboard to the metal bars, what sort of screws do you need and how easy is to screw into the metal? Also, how do you cut the plasterboard to size. Thanks
I could do with a bit of that, my neighbour likes to sing Elvis on his Karaoke machine the same song over and over sometimes hehe. Aslong as he'll put up with any shenanigans on my side of the fence I dont give a flying fig.
Another great video Andy interesting stuff i've never seen soundproofing done before
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! 👍
if you want to hand something to the wall now, you presumably need to go through all the layers to get to the brick right? Or would you advise against piercing this wall if you can help it?
Great vid Andy, very educational thank you. This is not a criticism, i was wondering why you didn't use dry lining boxes for the sockets.
Cheers Paul! I personally think this would perform a bit better but I don't think there would be much in it. Limited space for the Tecsound in normal dryline boxes. 👍
I guess the dry lining boxes would also provide the benefit of being decoupled from the original wall. Though, doesn't look like it's an issue at all!
@@3anksy the metal box is decoupled - doesn't touch the new wall 👍
I have terrible problems with sound coming from my nextdoor neighbour.
I've insulated my walls the best I can with Rockwool insulation and a layer of plasterboard.
This has helped but the sound still seems to be travelling under the floorboards, as I can literally hear them talking TWO ROOMS AWAY!
The wall directly connected to them is insulated and OK and much better, but in another room on the other side of my living room I can still hear them!
Very, very IRRITATING!! I'm thinking I should of ripped the floor up years ago and stuffed Rockwool inbetween the joists! Do you think that would of helped?
Excellent video. Very nice nice job. Some great info.
Whe'man! Super swanky sticky back plastic....👍🏽😁. That is going to be a great addition to the house. Great stuff!
Ultra sticky too! Sticks to everything! 🤣
@@GosforthHandyman Oh dear.... you'll be needing a Blue Peter Badge then! Well done. 😁👏🥳
Fantastic video as always! 👍👍 I’ve Been enjoying watching all of these through lockdowns and beyond and I’ve been picking up tips as I’m slowly renovating my own Victorian solid wall mid terraced house!
-One question I did have was what is the damp risk associated with having the (I’m guessing) highly non-breathable mass loaded vinyl in between? Doesn’t it stop the old wall from breathing?
Cheers! I don't think there's any damp risk - not that I'm aware of. Perhaps something to consider if it was an external non-cavity wall. 👍
Thanks for the education on soundproofing , I got Toxic neighbours from the depths of hell. I need this !
Great breakdown. Would it be the same principle for a concrete ceiling?
Very interesting video Andy, but that Tecsound is stickier than sticky the stick insect stuck to a sticky stick! 😂
An excellent video with all the explanations needed. Keep up the good work and sharing of your knowledge.
I also enjoyed the music, what is it?
meanwhile, inside the neighbours house...
he was yammering on about building some kind of soundproofing for a couple of days, but now he's gone very quiet...
Ha ha very possibly! They certainly would have heard the drilling! 😬
Or the family member and their dog who were staying for a while have now gone back home 😁
🤣🤣🤣
I know the feeling when they complained i said it’s your fault stop shouting at each other it’s soundproofing or led zeppelin and i mean it i wanted to move out
Amazing Vlog Andy and great workmanship, great explanation on method. Job well done buddy. stay safe buddy.
Cheers Neil - glad you enjoyed it! 👍
how would you go about insulating external solid walls? you seem like u would a good way to do it.
I was surprised to see the socket attached to the original wall - does it not transfer the vibrations? I’d have used a hollow wall box in the new wall on the assumption it was more isolated.
No - it's not touching the 'new' wall so there's little or no flanking transmission. Although in an ideal world if it was of concern just don't put a socket there since any hole in the wall is a weak point. 👍
I had a large shared wall insulated - very similar techniques and materials. The firm that did it used acoustic boxes that are like dry liner boxes, but with rubber around the entry holes, so there’s no connection from the surface to the wall behind.
Any advice on sound proofing ceilings . I stay in a flat , and can hear the people up above speaking , nothing between the ceiling and there floors , just a 4 inch empty space , Thanks
Why did you not use a dry lining pattress box for the socket cutting only the plasterboard and leave everything behind intact? Maybe with some of the vinyl foam on the back of the box?
Me watching this and realising that the £6k sound proofing job we commissioned was done wrong and no wonder it hasn't worked :( Will DIY it myself next time
Yeah but I bet they did one thing professionally - take yer £6K.
Oh no! What did they do?
Hi we can help do it properly where are you based ?
Did you add acoustic material to the fireplace, I found the fireplace was carrying most of the sound.
Great video Andy. Have had this bookmarked until I needed to do my own project and now is that time. Just wondering if you applied the skirting as normal and if you knew whether there would still be sound bleeding through the internal wall to the adjoining wall..?
Nice thorough work! I did all the internal walls & 3rd party wall with soundcoat & then dot dabbed to that. Wasnt going for ultra sound proofing, but the house was back to bare brick & we noticed with the last house that dot dab let's an awful lot of noise through. Seems to have worked well.
Great stuff. Normally it's the wall behind the dot & dab to blame, rather than the dot & dab itself. 👍
@@GosforthHandyman Yes, it gives a nice uniform barrier underneath. 3rd party wall had a few holes that it covered nicely. I'm not plasterer but managed to put 30 bags of soundcoat on without having ever done it before. As the ceilings were down it meant I could pretty much cover from downstairs to upstairs with no gap.
Can on hang TV or large mirror on this using plasterboard fixtures? Will screwing TV or mirror fixtures destroy the sound proofing effect?
Hi, any time frames on when you will be showing the independent wall system. downstairs? thanks
Would it be just cheaper to get insulated plasterboard?
I would love to see a video on filling fireplace holes. I need to fill one where a back boiler used to be. In a house I'm moving into
So important having good soundproofing. Unfortunately I can hear everything my neighbours do, muffled conversation, sneezes, coughs, sex, even his thunderous snoring ! My house is a semi detached built in 1953.
Oh no! I must admit prior to doing this I could hear the TV in the adjoining room. Can't hear a thing now though. 👍
we are the same private rented next door walls are that thin we hear everything. drives us mad.
Hi where are you based ,we cover the northwest and Greater London. We are professional recording studio soundproofers who also undertake domestic jobs. Happy to help
I have no idea about sound proofing, so this is just a general enquiry and not a criticism. Would the electrical back boxes be better mounted to the furring channel (obviously mounted at correct height before boarding and then exposed after by cutting box into boards) and thus keeping them fully isolated? The 2 layers for sound board should give you the required 25mm and bring the box more level.
I was wondering that - or using drywall boxes so they don't bridge the gap
The backbox doesn't actually touch the new front wall (other than via the screws) so there should be very little sound transmission via flanking. So the only sound getting through would be airborne and I think you'd get similar levels using other methods. Don't think there'd be an audible difference. 👍
Just recently found the channel.
Love the energy you put in.
Thank you so much.
Thank you Paul! 👍
Considering that two layers of heavy plasterboard and a layer of very heavy tecsound are all just hanging on lightweight channel and wall screws, could you tile on top of it ?
Excellent video, I intend doing this exact job thanks - Is it dot and dab for second plaster board to fix it to the vinyl?
If I needed someone to do this, who would I hire?
Hi, did you soundproof the cielings as well or just the walls?
Soundproofing is great and all but what if you can’t hear the enemy coming?
Did you do any sound level testing before and after to see if it was actually worth it?
Yes, highly scientific listening for dogs barking. 😂👍
@@GosforthHandyman the verdict is?
@@pault5356 I am supposing not worth the cost or loss of space in a small house.
@@RobertLinthicum agree
Great video Andy, Thanks
Cheers Michael!
Looks good .
I think I would have cut the floorboards back and plasterboarded into the cavity/top of joist
You can keep pushing for incremental improvements but I don't think that would make much difference. 👍
@@GosforthHandyman
Very true, it's hard to know when to stop.😁
I have done the stud wall (in metal), it works pretty well👍
superb we really need this in our home but can never find an installer.
hmm would the socket not have been better as a drylining box attached to the plasterboard rather than the metal box on the masonry? seems latter would bridge more sound
The metal box doesn't touch the plasterboard so no bridging in either case. 👍
Would the sound from nextdoor not simply resonate through the chimney?
Thank you for posting very helpful videos. What soundproofing did you use in the void left in the fireplace?
Excellent work and thanks for sharing this with us take care
No worries! 👍
@@GosforthHandyman 👍
Really enjoyed
Said you put tecsound over the plasterboard why didn't you just use acoustic plasterboard?
Hi, nice job, did you plaster all the way to the edges of the board ?
Their SM20 system seems to provide equal if not better soundproofing to the Genie Clip system, with less work involved. Why would anyone use the Genie Clip?
why no dry lining box? surely that would have been more beneficial than a standard box as you would have been able to leave the rockwall in place then just apply matting to the backside of the box.
im not sure if it really would have made a night and day difference to the noise levels but just thought it may have been, also you would not need 150mm socket screws lol. is that matting a risk inside that socket? im not sure what reg's are on it?
I'm not sure it would make much difference. Metal would be naturally more soundproof than plastic and the deeper back allows for more layers of Tecsound. Tecsound is Euroclass B fire rated I think. 👍
Beautiful
Tidy job!! What’s the reasoning for not continuing the sound proofing around the front of the chimney breast?
You already have two big cavities there, back to back, and air is a pretty good sound insulator as long as the wall isn't resonating, which brick won't.
What Tony said. The chimney breast itself is already pretty soundproof providing it's properly blocked up. An open inglenook is always a weak spot though. 👍
@GosforthHandyman i can hear my neighbours in my bedroom when they are in their living room. I noticed the sound booms out of the chimney breast more than the alcoves
Excellent work.
Cheers Andrew! 👍👍
Would building a wooden frame work instead of the metal genie system? Thanks
It would yes
How did you attach the second layer of plasterboard? Does the Tec sound have a sticky surface on the outside too?
Screwed all the way through. 👍
Would a dry-lining box for the socket have been better than a metal box screwed into the original brick wall?
Don't think it would make much difference. 👍
So this is only on adjoining walls to next door?
Amazing demonstration 👍🏾 I have the problems with party wall, it drives me crazy. If you don't mind roughly how much was the total cost of the bedrooms for sound proofing in materials? And which one is a better system for soundproofing upstairs or downstairs in your opinion? Cheers
What about adding pictures and TV wall mounts to the space after the job? Will this reduce the effectiveness? Any type of fixing recommended?
I'd imagine it would be the same situation as dot and dab minus the possibility of drilling into blockwork or brickwork behind the plasterboard, but even then you'd probably only get away with fairly light items. But hanging a heavy TV on these type of walls would be out of the question.
If this stuff safe to put Inside sockets? Just wondering if it's approved to be used like this.
What's the rough cost for a bedroom wall (average size, maybe 12 feet across) in the UK, labour costs included? I'm guessing it must be thousands.
Great job, brilliant! I have the exact same problem in my 1920's house with alcoves that allow the sound through, really helpful video, thanks. Will you be filming the next alcove project with the stud wall ?
Hi - just wondered how you found the noise reduction after it was finished. We want to block out banging doors and other noise from next door and have a house similar to this - would you recommend?
@@dickturpine2250you can get that by actually going it the website and looking at the figures. Everyone will have slightly varying outcomes.
Can you let me know where to buy those new "invisible" ear defenders please ;-) In all seriousness though, please wear ear protection. You are going to have serious hearing problems in later life if you don't and once damaged you won't be able to do much about it. Other than that it was really interesting to see how you went about this project, thanks for the upload and the series. Looking forward to the kitchen floor one, I hope to god you wore ear defenders when breaking that floor up!
Oh yes! Absolutely wore them for the breaker. My hearing is already terrible so I really do need to be careful. 👍👍
Hi Andy. I was wondering how thick is the PIR in the skillings?
Looking to do this for my front room, going to have my HIfi in there and also want to stop the sound of next doors dog. Quick question, any benefit on removing existing plaster first to regain some of the lost depth??
Love the contents as always.
Don't know if this is relevant but there is a Tom Scott video about British content creators needing to put Ad or Advert in the video title if you received payment, either directly or in the firm of goods or services, on TH-cam. I didn't notice if you put up something at start as don't care myself but did notice it wasn't in the title, when I looked. If you don't care, or believe you have a legitimate reason it's not relevant, then all good.
Literally went back to the home screen and rag and bone brown was at top of feed with #Ad on a title, strange coincidence?
By my understanding (and the rules largely make no sense saying things like #gifted is insufficient and you can't have #ad at the end of the title in case the title is truncated on certain screens etc etc.)... if the video was specifically about Soundstop (e.g. a review of Soundstop where they gifted me product to make the review) then that would need declared as an ad. As this is a video about soundproofing alcoves and not specifically about Soundstop, where other brands are mentioned such as GenieClip, Everbond and Tecsound (who also didn't pay me anything) then the whole video can't be declared as an ad. It's all a bit ridiculous really since technically if DeWalt gave me a drill then EVERY video where I used that drill would need to be declared as an ad. Fortunately DeWalt give me squat, so it's a non-issue... but technically Evolution gave me that chop saw that I used in this vid. So... I guess I'll see them in court. 🤣🙄
@@GosforthHandyman all good, as long as your happy you have an explanation/reason sure you should be all good.