Thanks for the info!! Can you tell me which rear rack that is that you have....I like the one piece instead of Alt Riders 2 piece. ...and can I buy it through Rocky Mountain ATV??
@@unounv I'm 5''10 as well it will be a 1 foot flat or slightly tippy toe, but with 1 foot down works just fine. Although the 5"7 guys were handling it just fine with the factory lowering link, ill admit it was definitely lower but only by an inch or so and being 5"10 you are right at the prefect height to choose to stay high clearance or go lower
The fun thing with T7 is that everyone buys it as a platform and has the money left over to mod it the way they want. No T7 looks like the other. Great vid!
@@kloppskalli the ”Rally” is also only a paintjob with the same accessories as available for all T7. Now the Rally Raid prototype that just showed, THAT is nice.
I'm nearly 62 years old, and got my motorcycle license at the age of 18. So I've been riding for close to 44 years. I've taken numerous long distance motorcycle trips in those years. My last one almost 8000 miles, in 20 days. Along the way, over the years, I've also run across many other older two wheeled travelers, like myself. Crossing the U.S., or at least several states, on a trip with no destination. "Reveling in the bliss of the journey", as we've jokingly quipped. It is always a joy to share the happiness of our experiences, when you run into people at gas stops, campgrounds, and road side restaurants. It feels like running into old friends. People that are also, older two wheeled veterans of the road, out there, "drinking-in their universe". Often times no schedule to keep. No one expecting you to show up at point "B", at a certain time. In my travels, I'll typically cover 350-500 miles per day. On my last trip I logged one 952 mile day, one 740 mile day, and the rest between 350-500 miles. Among we veterans of the road, that I've conversed with, it seems universally true that we have one thing in common, the appreciation of having a machine, that doesn't unnecessarily fatigue you. The subject often gets around to the noise level of our bikes. Most agree that they've found over the years, that quieter is better. I ride a 2013 Yamaha FJR1300a. She's my Japanese mistress. My best friend. I watch a lot of TH-cam videos. Mostly related to motorcycle travel, nomadic/ camping living and such, as well as motorcycle reviews. Occasionally I notice with younger people giving reviews of ADV motorcycles, and speaking of mods that they recommend, is the tendency to recommend a louder exhaust system. I usually chalk that up to people who seldom do multi-day motorcycle trips, and over a hundred miles a day. It's okay because often times it takes a person quite a while before they figure out the magic combinations of factors and comforts that make their traveling an adventure in bliss. That is to say, "I've had loud pipes"........ now I know better. ON TO BLISS............. Mine is having my Android Smart phone, with a mini SD card, for music storage. Also my set of Bose Noise canceling ear buds, and an inline amplifier. My earbuds switched on, with my Shoei Air GT helmet in combination with the stock quiet exhaust system, blocks out at least 75% of all the ambient noise. Typically I'll be listening to navigation information with music, or an Audible book of my choice, or a podcast. Sometimes TH-cam videos. The experience of riding and enjoying the smells of the nature around me, the blissful scenery zipping by, while listening to something other than the fatiguing drone of exhaust system noise, is as close to heaven as I'm going to get, in my time on earth. In 2016, "my 8000 miler", I stopped over night in Bozeman, Montana, on my way to Kalispell. The next morning I woke to rain storms, and showers, that would end up lasting for nearly four hours of my ride. It was about 65 degrees(mid August), in Bozeman, and I wasn't about to stand around for several hours under the hotel car awning, with "car" travelers, waiting on a change of weather to come. I donned my rain suit and temporarily my ball cap, and rode my cycle into the carport to load it. Needless to say, the looks I got spoke volumes......... "A 56 year old man on a motorcycle, getting ready to ride off into a rain shower". They didn't have to say what they were thinking. Myself, enjoying the smell of the ionized summer rain shower. So.... off I went, listening to an audible book about John Adams, and a British girl in my Waze App. I'd like to think that when I rode into sunny Kalispell, Montana, at 4:30 in the afternoon, and a 78 degree temperature, that the "car people" were still standing under the car port, in Bozeman, waiting on "the love of my life", mother nature, to change her mind. Do you know how great it is to ride through Montana, with Swan Lake on one side of you, and Flathead National Forest on the other side, while listening to john Denver sing Sweet Surrender ? It beats the hell out of exhaust noise.
Well done: excellent story, as I’m close to your age and feel exactly the same way while biking! However; I’m afraid few of the younger generations out there would understand us, lol 😂!
I am from St. Ignatius, Montana, just 70 miles or so south of Kalispell. I moved away in late 70's to get more work as an electrician, into the oil fields of Wyoming, a short stint in Tucson, and then 30 years in Elko, NV. I have always wanted to get back to Montana, but married a Colorado girl and so we compromise and live in central Utah. I also have had many motorcycles in my life. I will be 70 this year and have been riding a 2019 Africa Twin Adventure Sports, DCT. I liked the bike for traveling on the road, but not so much for back roads, hills and trails that are so plentiful here, which I love to ride. I have it up for sale right now in Fairview, Utah at Big Pine Sports. At the bidding of my wife, she thinks that I need a smaller bike. I will be going back to a somewhat smaller bike, a Yamaha Tenere 700. I hope you liked Montana, I haven't been up there since 2015, and really look forward to going back and riding some of the beautiful country around there.
Awesome story. One thing I am thinking is that having a louder exhaust might be safer? I’m new to bikes so not really sure but while I’m driving I usually notice bikes by sound first then see them. As being seen by drivers is a problem isn’t being loud a solution?
@@jaredmcentire9007 Hey Jared sorry I'm just replying, I don't recall getting a notification for your reply. If you ask me, Montana is God's country. I rode out of Bozeman on my way out west, with the plan of going up to Kalispell and Glacier. That morning leaving Bozeman is was pouring rain, and the rain lasted about four hours. By the time I was finally seeing clear skies I was a short distance from Swan Lake. It cleared up and was about 73 degrees, and I don't think I've had a more enjoyable ride as cruising up hwy 83 with Swan Lake on one side and the Flathead National Forest on the other. When I rode into Kalispel in the late afternoon, the town seemed like home brother. Friendly folks, and had a good steak dinner that night..... A great time. Hope your travels are safe and as fun as mine.
I took delivery of my new Tenere 700 in May 2021 without a test ride, and I'm loving it! I can't get enough of the sound, and that's with just the stock exhaust fitted. 😁
Had a T7. The engine truly is a gem. Seat height is too tall. It is top heavy. With accessories it weighs close to 500 lbs. When it starts to tip over....sold it. I much prefer my 300 lb dual sport.
Great video. I picked up a T7 a month ago and rode the MABDR. It's my first adventure bike and it was my first BDR and the bike was great. It's comfortable and great to ride on twisty roads, the highway, dirt roads, and some two track. Only downside is the fuel tank @ 4.1 gallons which provides about 200 miles of range which isn't great. I was considering waiting for the new rumoured T7 with a larger fuel tank but based on how long it took for Yamaha to release the current T7, along with the current global supply chain issues, you might have to wait 3 more years for that one. I highly recommend anyone thinking about this bike to try it out.
I am in my 75th day of riding one thru dozens of mountain passes in Europe. It was Touratech’s exhibition bike. Has every Touratech accessory including suspension. I am in love. It has torque everywhere. It dives into turns. I wouldn’t mind a 7th gear for the Autostradas. But it can go 130 km/hr all day as is. Today I went through two really tough passes near Cuneo, Italy. Definitely a hiking road in places. Colle Fauniera and Col d’Esischie where I actually used 1st gear! These passes have cars coming the other way. The bike just goes where you want it to. I am74 years old w a 30” inseam. It was tough in beginning but fine now. I think my hips must be widening like a pregnant woman! I’ve noticed that revving high in 1st gear when I have to go off-road gives me gyroscopic stability even at low speeds where the wheels would not. It’s kind of magical. What is your audio setup? Nice mix.
Thanks for the very informative video. I recently took a test drive with the Ténéré 700 and took a wrong turn. Instead of a gravel road, I found myself on a dirt road with light mud. I drive a Super Ténéré 1200 privately. If I had landed there with this one, I would certainly have turned back, but with the T7 I felt immediately able to tackle this section. And that on my very first trip. I didn't know the machine. So I can completely confirm what you report in your video. This motorcycle lets you go further. I am still undecided whether I will sell my 1200 for the T7, but "the little one" is really great fun! Best regards from Germany!
Most KLR owners asked for better suspension and a sixth gear. A few of us asked for EFI and ABS in addition to a 6th gear and better suspension. I’ve seen very few on the KLR forums ask for more cylinders or a lot more HP.
I have a drz and I love it but I want to do more road riding and long distance riding. Efi would be awesome and defined a 6th gear. The drz does not have enough power for the hills where I live. The 700 seems almost perfect. I think a t900 would be the best but I’m ok with a 700. I was looking at the Africa twin too. It may be the bike h get after the t7
After a test ride at the tourtech event in NH, I want one bad. Probably won't get one forever, but it's a legit bike and I felt at home. Tracking is insane, power is decent, rear brake is soft, front brakes are great, loved seating, truly a great bike! Yes we have always wanted, it's about time!
This T7 appears to be universally the most liked Adventure bike around.Seldom hear a bad word about it.I can hear your genuine enthusiasm for it.I may yet consider it.Cheers.
Nice initial ride review. Yes, many of us don’t want 16 levels of ride and traction control and a TFT screen with 35 different menus to navigate. Yamaha did hit it out of the park with the Tenere 700. I have an MT-07, so I know how good that motor is. The issue for me with getting a T7 is that I think it would be too much overlap to have both the MT-07 and the T7. I’d have to do one or the other and I really love my 2020 MT-07. I’m going to wait a year or so and see what might happen with KTM and the 490 platform and if Suzuki or Kawasaki does something new.
Thanks for your reviews! One thing I'd like to see though, which NOBODY (that I've found) does, is reviewing bikes fully loaded with gear. Yes it's fun to blat these things through the local twisties and trails empty or near-empty, quite another to see how they perform once loaded up with a realistic loadout gear for an extended trip - which is arguably the main dream/aim of anybody in the market for an adventure bike! If anybody knows of anyone who does these kinds of reviews, I'd love to hear about it! Another thing I'd like to see would be to add metric units to your videos. I have absolutely no concept of what 60 pounds is. Yes, I can go and look it up, but not in realtime while watching, and I doubt I'm the only person watching from another country! Keep up the great work :)
Thats a good point. I made a post TET review of the T7, but I didnt mention the luggage even though my bike was fully loaded the whole trip. All the points/arguments I made in my video are based on the bike with full luggage. Bike handled the gear with ease. Fully loaded mosko r80 system. Barely noticed it, on the highway to tight single track and hillclimbs. If you’re after a bike that can travel the world and do gravel roads this bike is close to perfect- just make sure you’re able to lift it when you tip over. Hope this was helpful. Ride safe!
@@JohannesDalenMC Do you have a link to your review please? (EDIT: Found it - for others who are interested : th-cam.com/video/EFeN6i71E0Q/w-d-xo.html) And thank you for your reply. Considering options, at this stage it's more just a crazy idea to ride back to Europe from Japan (taking a contract break when I relocate back to Europe) and the T7 ranks highly on my shortlist largely due to the simplicity of the bike. Less things to break. Haven't found a place which rents them out here yet though, would like to spend a few days riding it around, see how it fits me. The reason I asked about the luggage is that all reviewers comment on how relatively softly sprung the suspension is, so wondering how it goes once loaded up or if aftermarket suspension is pretty much a requirement. Recently borrowed a friends KTM790R for a week, and it was awesome - unfortunately just on roads though - except for highway. Definitely did not enjoy that. I found it very uncomfortable even at just 100-110kmh. Lots of wind/head buffeting made for a very exhausting 4 hours or so back from where I'd ended up. Otherwise it was great, but the reported reliability issues make me very wary of taking it away from civilisation.
I've done a couple thousand miles loaded up - including tail of the dragon - I'll say that the t7 handles it incredibly well. The biggest hit is fuel mileage, that advertised 50mpg gets pretty close to 30 when you're going 85mph edit: I tried a 1000 mile day, the t7 has *just* enough protection to not be exhausting. It's still got a decent bit of wind noise and the seat hurts quite a bit, but it's doable.
@@MichaelWerle Yup. The stock gearing puts the bike at ~6500rpm at 85mph, plus wind resistance. I'm coming from a KLR, so that seems insane to me, but the bike seems totally comfortable there. Gas stations are a good little stretch at those intervals, but expensive....ish. 70-75mph is the sweet spot with stock gearing
I just lowered my T7 World raid with lowering links, I'm so pleased that I did it, it's really boosted my confidence at low speeds and at standstill, the handling and riding position is the same and the bike feels much lighter and more manageable. I lowered it 40mm on the links and 18mm on the forks, I left the pre load the same but will have the option now to wind it up a bit if I load it up with panniers. The bike now feels great. I'm 6.1" so not short but it's made a huge difference.
IMO your spot on with your assessment of the T7. I have over the years had numerous dual sport and adventure bikes from KTM 500's to BMW 1200's and I now have a T7 which I believe is the closest image of a unicorn do it all bike. I rode the first KTM 790 R that was in the country some years ago at KTM days in Phoenix and enjoyed it but it did not have a wow factor with me. From asphalt to wild CO passes mild to moderate single track it puts a smile on my face every-time I get on it. I also, as yourself, believe this is the best sounding bike I have ever owned, I'm not into loud at all it's just got that sound like your going through a tunnel all of the time.
When you're riding it, it feels like a 160 kg bike, when you have to pick it up, it feels like 230 kg. All in all a fantastic bike, but I personally found it too heavy for my kind of riding. Pro tip: Add stiffer springs in the fork and perhaps some thicker oil and a stiffer spring in the back, it makes a world of difference. Excellent video as always!
I know the feeling! My KTM 690 Enduro R feels like a 130kg bike when riding it but like a 200kg when trying to pick it up. However that's old age I guess!!
I guess this is true we haven't seen you pick up the bike on a 95-degree day in the desert sand 5x and comment on how perfect it is. Get it on some singletrack and pick it up more than once and then let us know if the weight bothers you. That is the best-looking Tenere I've seen! but I do like the high pipe that I saw on the Swankycat show. Someone oughta make a high pipe Tenere that looks like an English scrambler ....that would be cool.
Yamaha nailed it for many ADV riders who want a good bike for street (including highway cruising) as well as off road. The most common observation is "like a big dirt bike". That's what a large segment of the market was wanting. I don't like highway riding. Not my idea of "adventure", so the T7 is a bit large for me. I wish they made a 400-500cc version with a large rear rack and large fuel tank, as a proper ADV bike should have. Some Australians have made some mods including suspension upgrades and are doing serious offroad riding with their T7s.
Great initial review, Ian! I'm very keen to hear how the T7 compares with the first gen African Twin (I'm cross shopping the two) for adv touring and 50/50 duties. Your comparative analysis, thoroughness and honesty for real world riders is what makes your channel stand out. Keep up the great work. PS Am an ex KLR650 guy.
Thanks again. You've been my go to guy when trying to find the right adventure bike. And in my research I've found out I don't really want an adventure bike. All I really want is a dirt bike that can ride on as little road as possible to get me to the backcountry dirt/gravel roads. "It feels like a big dirt bike, and less like an adventure bike". Exactly what I wanted
So i watched this nice video just for entertainment, because i am riding mine now since a year or so. Now having 15.000 km on the clock. I can say that i agree almost everything you pointed out. Last winter i spent 2 months in spain for offroading. All the time i had singlezylinder-bikes with me, and i can tell you that i done so many crazy stuff with this bike. I made nearly everthing what the other guys had done with their lightweight-bikes. (sometimes even a little bit more...hahaha....) Ok, i dropped it a couple of times, and because of the weight it is harder to pick it up, compared to the small toys. Specially when you are exhausted. But in the end i just can say, this is by far the best bike I owned in my life so far. (and i had a lot because i do offroading now since 30 years) Hey, great video. Best regards to everyone. Ride safe and smile. Bye from germany.
Great video review & I really appreciate the information! Your throttle steering thru the corners is how I ride my XR650R…it’s such a blast. The T7 may just be the next addition to the stable :)
So I realized a long time ago, after riding an XR500 and various single cylinder bikes, that a parallel twin engine is just WAY more fun off road. There's a thrill factor with a parallel twin, that you just don't get at all with a single. The way the parallel twins hold high RPM's with glassy precision, or how they can be idled down to a tractor crawl in the forest, at 1500 rpms, without chugging or stalling, is just amazing. This is why I wish manufacturers would make more medium displacement parallel twin dirtbikes. In the past, there were dozens of parallel twin bikes sold, like the CB450, CB350, CB360, Yamaha XS400, Kawasaki KZ750 twin, KZ400. I've driven several of these bikes off road, and there is nothing better than a high RPM parallel twin, powering down a sandy fire road. It's not about the horsepower, it's about the smooth, mesmerizing sound, and feel.
Another great video brother. I’ve had my T7 since April and just completed the COBDR last week on it flawless.. I’ve done plenty of mods to mine as well, new brake pads front and rear made a difference, double take mirrors, and I bought a puig windscreen because I’m 6ft 1in tall and that was another huge change in the wind.. also I’m 200 lbs and changed the rear shock spring to beef up the suspension and get the sag correct. The bike rules. enjoy! it’s a blast.
Good to see someone who can ride an adv bike off road. I only take day trips and usually only to get to off road trails so I use a 2024 KTM 500EXC-f. For 2024 they upped the hp to 64 and the bike only weighs 250lbs.
Your quote "Just buy one" - that's the attitude 😀But indeed, my T7 is an amazing bike! I'm waiting till Honda release their 750 TransAlp 2023! Cheers, H
In a future video, could you provide insights on why Yamaha made the Tenere 700 if they weren’t going to make very many to sell? I test rode two of them (one was lowered) at a demo event, and thought the bike was great. My local dealer can’t seem to get them to sell. As a consumer, I find that extremely annoying. That same dealer has had no trouble getting and selling the KTM 790 and now the 890. The local Honda dealer has also had Africa Twins in stock during the entire plague. It also appears that Kawasaki KLR650s are starting to arrive at dealers; yet still no Tenere 700s.
@@markymarkmoto You could be correct; however, I remain very skeptical. The whole rollout of the Tenere 700 in the US has been problematic for Yamaha. Delays were already occurring prior to the pandemic in that a bunch of bikes should have already been manufactured. In contrast, Honda hasn’t had anywhere near the amount of trouble in stocking their bikes at local dealerships. My local Yamaha dealerships have virtually no new Yamaha inventory except for generators/inverters.
I think it’s mostly COVID related and the general high demand for this bike. Like u said though, in general Yamaha has nothing at their dealers including watercraft. Perhaps as a company they are even more precautionary? If their is a conspiracy…..possibly a smaller launch here in the US, build the hype and then mark up the cost 2k more. This seems to have happened in the rest of world?
@@martin4819 I don’t believe there was any kind of conspiracy, just a huge missed opportunity on Yamaha`s part. They could have gained huge market share and crushed the competition if they had the foresight to make the bikes. Keep in mind they were sold elsewhere around the world for more than a year prior to entering the US market. As it is now , the new KLR will be stiff competition. While it is not a better bike than the Tenere 700 it is $3000 less expensive and can do all the same things. Yamaha had a window of time where their bike was the least expensive by far and was arguably better than much of the competition.
@@vtrack1963 I agree, I don't buy into the whole Covid BS because most of the other manufacturers are getting their bikes to dealers. All of the dealers around me are full of 2021 and now some 2022 MY bikes yet Yamaha is nowhere to be seen. I wanted the T7 from the very moment they released the concept photos and then I got to ride one last year and I knew it was the bike for me. Fast forward a year later and there are still no bikes to be found anywhere so I settled for my second choice, a KTM 890 Adventure R. I wasn't about to wait another 6-12 months or longer, time itself and great riding weather and opportunities were passing me by all for the sake of a $10K bike, not worth it. Think of how many others are out there like myself and moved on to another manufacturer. I spent nearly $4K more for a competitors bike because Yamaha dropped the ball and I am sure there will be many others that move on and spend even less on options like the new KLR or lightly used bikes. I still hope to have a T7 in the garage in the future but for now I've moved on and that's a strike against Yamaha in my book. YMMV.
That exhaust sounds very similar to the stock exhaust with the spark arrester removed. I didn't feel the need for an aftermarket one, I just put the spark arrestor back in if I'm doing any real off-road. I LOVE THIS BIKE.
Back in the 90s I had the 660 Tenere and it was a pretty great bike even back then. The main downside was the tiny battery that would go flat and left me stranded a few times, It was such a big bike it was almost impossible to bump start (a few times I tried until I was exhausted). The other issue I had was the 660 was top heavy and I dropped it at the gas station after a fill up. I just swung my leg over it and it kept going and I couldn't push it back. I'm 6' and was about 210lbs then. In the end I traded it towards an FZR600R, which was a great bike, but I always missed my Tenere.
What Honda needs to do is make a CRF 450L rally with long maintenance intervals already. For me that would be the sweet spot. The T7 is amazing, but is rather heavy. So if I had one it would be in more of an adventure role. Until then my dr650 does everything I need it to do and is still a blast to ride.
Had the pleasure to ride alongside two of these (Rented from Eagle Rider Las Vegas) in Nevada, Arizona and Utah 2 weeks ago. 3.5 day ride around the Grand Canyon. The T7 riders who normally ride BMWs loved the platform. The only critical comments they had was highway transit at speed over 70mph, both bikes exhibiting high speed wobble and gearing issues. The other criticism they had was fuel range as a result of the 3 gallon tank. On two occasions hitting reserve miles before a fuel stop. Other than that the comments regarding handling dynamics, esp off road were overwhelmingly positive and coming from one of the two odd balls out on this ride, me riding a r1200RT, the T7s looked fantastic in their element.
Nice Vid! thank you. The heaviest dirt bike I ever owned was a DRZ400. Never felt that bad(heavy), until I bought a KTM450EXC(oh boy). That T7 works so well on those trails...impressive!!
found your channel a few months ago. really great reviews! it's amazing how good your recording of your voice is while you are riding. I can hear every word you are saying and it's so clear and clean. no bouncing or bumping noise of your voice in the recording. I can't wait to get my 2023 Tenere 700!
Just told my wife I’m buying one She said I’m crazy No where in there did I hear a no 🤘🤘🤘 I do love the look of this one great compilation of colors This exactly the kinda bike I’ve been wanting
Great vid!!! Can't wait for when you can do a new KLR comparison review, but, my goodness this T7 is my favorite bike right now... Happy for you that you got one.. 👍
Thoroughly enjoyed this vid and will greatly appreciate a run down on the various adventure bikes out there in the market with each of their tradeoffs. I’ve only ever ridden street but have steadily been gaining interest in trying my hand out trail exploration and being able to ride the local fire roads. I’ve been keen on the KLX300 dual sport but worried about its ability to ride the freeways to get me to those trails I want to explore. It sounds like this Yamaha is exactly what I would want, giving me that extra juice without going full bore in weight, electronics, and unnecessary power that a full fledged adventure bike would give.
First. Nice, I only have a superbike at the moment but I really want an adv and your channel has been giving me good info on what I need to know! Thanks!
I'm not even a fan of Japanese Bikes, but this Tenere is definitely one that I would consider for an adventure type bike in the near future, but it's probably all the mods that you've had added on there that make this bike look much more appealing than what it would be stock form just going to a dealership and looking at it! You should do a full review with all the mods on it, I am sure a lot of people want to know about all the mods and where to get them. Fantastic content this video.
@@cw9766 Well I've actually never owned a Japanese Bike and probably Never will excuse my Super Biased outlook, I Only Buy BMW, Triumph, Husqvarna, and Ducati! You know the 10% left of Manufacturers of Motorcycles, and adding to that with the Ducati Desert Sled X being out now, in my humble opinion it's way better than Yamaha 700 Tenere!
I'm so envious of the trails & tracks you guys seem to have everywhere!! Over here where I am, in the UK, it's hard to find much in the way off road riding.
Done almost 15 000 km on mine, mostly fire roads, dirt roads, trails and paved roads. I sold my XT1200SE a year after I bought my T7. I also have a WR450F for gnarly trails. The T7 fits right in the middle, and you can do almost everything with it. I have upgraded the spring event hough I am only 195 and it improves the ride offroad significantly.
10k for a powerful, efficient, tough, and capable bike is a steal. It looks fantastic, Yamaha can really build a bike. And this proves that they're a special company. My only issue is my height.. it's hard to find something low enough to feel confident at my height though.
Finally watching this vid with T7 in my garage. Feels amazing. If its more than 10° celsius im riding it 🎉🎉 Its a great, I feel confident on road and on fire trails. Good thing is it doesnt have too much power. After 150km im feeling fresh after ride. Would definetly recommend.
Well done as always! One thing to note, it is very heavy to pick up after dropping. I sold my T7 and now have a KTM 890 and it is alot lighter to pick up.
@@shoakman I assume the weight is much lower and the bike rests on the tank sort of like a GS on the cylinders. It’s a deal breaker for me since riding alot with luggage I can barely pick up the T7.
Just worked a 13 hour shift and should be in bed, but when I saw that you finally dropped this, I had to grab a beer and start watching. Very pleased to see you getting some seat time on her and you sounded like you had an amazing time. Not to mention where you live is sublimely gorgeous. This and the vstrom are contenders for my next bike'
This is a beautiful bike! Thanks for sharing this. I’ve been eyeballing the 300s from the big 4, and I am having one hell of a time choosing. I was sold on the WR250R but they stopped making it and I would like to get new. I’ve watched hundreds of videos and I can’t even start to decide. Keep up the hard work and thanks for sharing your thoughts.
the exhaust hanger is no problem it bends at the bottom if you crash hard and just bend it back, had T7 2 years and crashed it loads of times and exhaust hanger is fine, it will bend back no problem.
Always another bike to be all excited about and this is one of those! Looking in my crystal ball I can see one of these in the garage in the near future. The only concern I have is the way the exhaust mount is so vulnerable. If a hit can damage the frame beyond repair that is extremely concerning in my view. I mean let's face it, anyone can have drop. So if and when I do buy one that's gonna be very high on my list of Mods. Otherwise so far I don't see anything that would make me feel like I couldn't hop one of these and really ride it almost anywhere. BTW thx for taking the time to revue this bike. Every little bit of info is good info...
Ryan @ fortnine has a degree in Pysics from McGiil University in Canada. That gives his reviews credibility in regards to the the dynamics regarding moto handling. His review on the T7 was also good, as is yours.
Yes yes I would that bike looks and sounds awesome your enthusiasm was carried over well into the video we will see how long it last in the Big Rock stable!
Spot on review. I got a white one. 8,000 miles so far and love it more after every ride! I like to ride blue and black jeep roads, and it handles the technical competently. Plus I've done several 1,000 plus multi-day trips with all the gear and it just rocks it! Thanks. A perfect 50/50 bike.
I've been watching a lot of adv bikes reviews because I couldn't decide what to get...(Norden, 890 adv, africa twin, tenere, etc). Since the price of the Tenere here in mexico is at 13k, I was considering getting the ktm and get all the electronics since they sell at approx the same price down here. But, the way that you enjoyed yourself in this video with the tenere showed me that its all about how the bike makes you feel, regardless of how many extra components it has. I'm def going for the tenere after seeing this (also the sound is a very big plus). Thanks for the review 🇲🇽
Great video! I owned a T7 , sold it due to its weight. Buttt it is a brilliant bike the only downsides where exhaust position and weight. Engine is sweeeet!
Holey Smoke. that is one nice looking T7. My Fav colors. I've just sold my KTM890r and bought a second hand Yamaha XT660r with only 5000miles.Gone from one extreme to the other as I just did not have confidence in the 890's longevity and reliability. I'm sticking to Japanese bike from now on. Good on you Ian
HP course high mount sold on Belissimo relocated the exhaust under the standard muffler mount comes out under the seat to the left, i am in love with the T7, this is the bike people have been wanting. Remember when adventure bikes came out were only 250-500 cc with no nannies. I am saving now for one, and praying i can get the cash up before Euro6 tries to kill the T7
I really liked your first ever video I chanced upon - I guess it was about your Mazda CX5 - because of the highly analytical and objective way in which you explained its pros and cons (I am a big fan of the CX5, so was checking out some reviews). But, to be honest, I thought your style of delivery edged on monotonous and boring (sorry!), and because you were mostly recording your videos while sitting/standing and just speaking (however well), I never took you for much of a rider. But man, how this channel has grown on me! Your content is still highly analytical, which is very important for a thorough comparison, and this video just goes to show how good of a rider you actually are, and why your opinions deserve a lot of respect. You are really doing a great job with these reviews (which keep improving all the time), Ian - please keep them coming. I'm a convert! :D
Agreed. Seeing him ride conveys how much more dynamic and intuitive the bike is in real life. The little comments about bumps, throttle steering etc tell me that the bike is easy to manipulate.
The numbers of times I have said "man I wish BRM would get bike X"........ thanks man, you did it again. Awesome, simply awesome. Thank you for the on road portion. Like you say there are tons of videos on this bike but I need more info on it's weakness, tarmac?!?
Best looking T7 I’ve seen. Question Ian, do you think the T7 could carry a lightweight pillion on day rides? Obviously some rear seat rebuilding and rear spring changes permitting. I’m struggling with the idea of 230kg dual purpose bikes these days. Thanks, looking forward to future stories.
Google custom/modified T7 images. A ton of top notch, imo better looking, T7's in Europe and particularly Australia. Some insanely good decal kits available.
@J D yes but you are starting from a lower base than say an R1200GS where you end up on a 250 kg bike. I’ve owned a 1200GSA and ridden it fully loaded up trails with a pillion. I’m completely over this trend to pack more weight into bikes.
1 Great video/review. 2. graphics on that bike are awesome. love it. 3. Did the original owner do any suspension mods at all? normally when an owner has taken the time to modify the exhaust, and do a tune, they'd have done the suspension first. I don't think any reviewers have criticized the power, just the suspension, so that's normally the first mod. But to each his own. Definitely a nice bike. looking forward to more reviews/rides.
Wow, I’m really impressed. I don’t like the bigger heavier bikes at all but this might change my mind. I’ve heard a ton of people talk about how great it is right off the showroom floor and I have kind of ignored it but after watching this I really want to get my hands on one and check it out. I do like the bigger bikes I love the Africa and I even like the BMW a lot but they’re just a little too unrealistic for me, if I was a billionaire I would probably have both made sit in my garage way road something else most of the time but I’d still like them once in a while but unless I’m putting on a lot of miles I just don’t want to drive a big heavy bike around, especially off-road, but I drove an XL 600 for a while and I love the Kailer which is a big heavy bike but still too big and heavy and I like the XR 650 LNDR 650 but this seems more doable in the Africa and some of the others end I definitely like what you said about having less electronics and tech on it. I don’t hate Tech but for a bike you’re taking off road it’s just a lot more crap to break and makes everything harder to work on and just is kind of an unnecessary headache for someone like me. I watch this because it rolled onto my TH-cam and I was busy doing some thing else but I’m really impressed with it. When Hondas asking 11 grand for a CRF 450 that I don’t really like and don’t think is worth even close to that money next to this there’s just no question in my mind because I’m not a motocrosser and I thought these were a lot more expensive but you said they’re about 10 grand and that’s still pretty expensive but that’s a reasonable amount to pay for something like this to where the KTM and stuff are great but The prices are just ridiculous. 🤔 Great video
Hi Ian. The T7 review was excellent. Yes, this is a special motorcycle... There are hundreds of motorcycle models, but the T7 is kind of a game changer hitting that sweet spot of versatility. One of the other commenters mentioned that "no T7 looks like the other"... Chris at the motorcycle shop in Yucca Valley has a sweet T7 that has the classic Yamaha yellow/black graphics that make the bike look like a vintage YZ that Bob Hannah rode, or a TZ750 that Kenny Roberts rode... I love the nostalgia. Hey I would love to talk offline. You can reach me at the national park where we met. I also like that you touched on the balance of simplicity vs "too much technology". I hope your channel gets the attention of the the big 4 corporate HQs including Torrance and Cypress CA.
Thanks for the review. Looks like an awesome bike. Just the right amount of power, simple electronics and lighter weight. Back in the 80's I had a Honda Hawk 450. I put knobby tires on it, longer shocks in back, and mounted a plastic fender in front. This was awesome for winter riding around town, and lots of fun on logging roads in summer. I even gave a few cars a boost when they left their lights on or something. Cheers from Canada :-)
Thanks for a great, informative review. This looks like the perfect bike for me, coming from the ‘06 KLR I’ve been riding for fourteen years. I bought the new Honda CRF300 Rally for off-road exploring, but this T7 looks like it can handle the trails well, also. Like you, I think the exhaust could have been hung a bit higher, but, it’s not a deal breaker for me. Happy Trails
Great video. You are 100% right, this is everything the KLR should have been. I wish Yamaha would listen to the TW200 community and up the HP and add EFI to the TDub.
The reason the "jerkiness" on and off throttle goes away after a dyno tune is because the tuners remove the fuel cut setting. I believe most normal factory vehicles do a hard fuel cut after a second of having the throttle completely closed during hard deceleration, because you get better engine braking, more engine life, no popping or gurgling, and no emissions at all when the fuel injectors are totally shut off during extended deceleration. Turning on just a smidge of fuel at all times, prevents the abrupt snatchiness when you return back to the throttle.
Putting the words ‘blowing away’ in a title about a T700 will have KTM riders sneering , they don’t like them , they don’t like the attention & good reviews the bikes had since it’s arrival , they don’t like any notice going off KTM’s .. it’s why they are painted so loud in bright Orange , whereT7’s are subtle , so maybe the previous owner of this bike went on to KTM ‘s himself after seeing the over-bling paint job he did on this poor Yamaha. Great review , this bloke knows his stuff.
WOW.. super amazing bike.. i love it soooo much.. i think i will get one.. i own a V-Strom now because i need to ride in couple and the V-strom it is a little better into doing this.. But the T7 is on my list.. thanks for your opinion ..
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How tall are you and how’s the seat height ? I’m 5”10 and want to make sure I can touch down
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I'm 5''10 as well it will be a 1 foot flat or slightly tippy toe, but with 1 foot down works just fine. Although the 5"7 guys were handling it just fine with the factory lowering link, ill admit it was definitely lower but only by an inch or so and being 5"10 you are right at the prefect height to choose to stay high clearance or go lower
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The fun thing with T7 is that everyone buys it as a platform and has the money left over to mod it the way they want. No T7 looks like the other. Great vid!
not really, i find 10 and a half thousand Euro quite steep for a bare bone motorcycle, the nicer to look at Rally is over 12000 EUR.
@@kloppskalli the ”Rally” is also only a paintjob with the same accessories as available for all T7. Now the Rally Raid prototype that just showed, THAT is nice.
@@kloppskalli Tuareg 660 is the way to Go :)
I dont know, 10000$, U all look to me rich
@@the.communist even 1000$ is much.
I'm nearly 62 years old, and got my motorcycle license at the age of 18. So I've been riding for close to 44 years. I've taken numerous long distance motorcycle trips in those years. My last one almost 8000 miles, in 20 days.
Along the way, over the years, I've also run across many other older two wheeled travelers, like myself. Crossing the U.S., or at least several states, on a trip with no destination. "Reveling in the bliss of the journey", as we've jokingly quipped. It is always a joy to share the happiness of our experiences, when you run into people at gas stops, campgrounds, and road side restaurants. It feels like running into old friends. People that are also, older two wheeled veterans of the road, out there, "drinking-in their universe". Often times no schedule to keep. No one expecting you to show up at point "B", at a certain time.
In my travels, I'll typically cover 350-500 miles per day. On my last trip I logged one 952 mile day, one 740 mile day, and the rest between 350-500 miles. Among we veterans of the road, that I've conversed with, it seems universally true that we have one thing in common, the appreciation of having a machine, that doesn't unnecessarily fatigue you. The subject often gets around to the noise level of our bikes. Most agree that they've found over the years, that quieter is better.
I ride a 2013 Yamaha FJR1300a. She's my Japanese mistress. My best friend.
I watch a lot of TH-cam videos. Mostly related to motorcycle travel, nomadic/ camping living and such, as well as motorcycle reviews.
Occasionally I notice with younger people giving reviews of ADV motorcycles, and speaking of mods that they recommend, is the tendency to recommend a louder exhaust system. I usually chalk that up to people who seldom do multi-day motorcycle trips, and over a hundred miles a day. It's okay because often times it takes a person quite a while before they figure out the magic combinations of factors and comforts that make their traveling an adventure in bliss. That is to say, "I've had loud pipes"........ now I know better. ON TO BLISS.............
Mine is having my Android Smart phone, with a mini SD card, for music storage. Also my set of Bose Noise canceling ear buds, and an inline amplifier. My earbuds switched on, with my Shoei Air GT helmet in combination with the stock quiet exhaust system, blocks out at least 75% of all the ambient noise. Typically I'll be listening to navigation information with music, or an Audible book of my choice, or a podcast. Sometimes TH-cam videos. The experience of riding and enjoying the smells of the nature around me, the blissful scenery zipping by, while listening to something other than the fatiguing drone of exhaust system noise, is as close to heaven as I'm going to get, in my time on earth.
In 2016, "my 8000 miler", I stopped over night in Bozeman, Montana, on my way to Kalispell. The next morning I woke to rain storms, and showers, that would end up lasting for nearly four hours of my ride. It was about 65 degrees(mid August), in Bozeman, and I wasn't about to stand around for several hours under the hotel car awning, with "car" travelers, waiting on a change of weather to come. I donned my rain suit and temporarily my ball cap, and rode my cycle into the carport to load it. Needless to say, the looks I got spoke volumes......... "A 56 year old man on a motorcycle, getting ready to ride off into a rain shower". They didn't have to say what they were thinking. Myself, enjoying the smell of the ionized summer rain shower.
So.... off I went, listening to an audible book about John Adams, and a British girl in my Waze App. I'd like to think that when I rode into sunny Kalispell, Montana, at 4:30 in the afternoon, and a 78 degree temperature, that the "car people" were still standing under the car port, in Bozeman, waiting on "the love of my life", mother nature, to change her mind. Do you know how great it is to ride through Montana, with Swan Lake on one side of you, and Flathead National Forest on the other side, while listening to john Denver sing Sweet Surrender ? It beats the hell out of exhaust noise.
Well done: excellent story, as I’m close to your age and feel exactly the same way while biking! However; I’m afraid few of the younger generations out there would understand us, lol 😂!
Good Novel😊
I am from St. Ignatius, Montana, just 70 miles or so south of Kalispell. I moved away in late 70's to get more work as an electrician, into the oil fields of Wyoming, a short stint in Tucson, and then 30 years in Elko, NV. I have always wanted to get back to Montana, but married a Colorado girl and so we compromise and live in central Utah. I also have had many motorcycles in my life. I will be 70 this year and have been riding a 2019 Africa Twin Adventure Sports, DCT. I liked the bike for traveling on the road, but not so much for back roads, hills and trails that are so plentiful here, which I love to ride. I have it up for sale right now in Fairview, Utah at Big Pine Sports. At the bidding of my wife, she thinks that I need a smaller bike. I will be going back to a somewhat smaller bike, a Yamaha Tenere 700. I hope you liked Montana, I haven't been up there since 2015, and really look forward to going back and riding some of the beautiful country around there.
Awesome story. One thing I am thinking is that having a louder exhaust might be safer? I’m new to bikes so not really sure but while I’m driving I usually notice bikes by sound first then see them. As being seen by drivers is a problem isn’t being loud a solution?
@@jaredmcentire9007 Hey Jared sorry I'm just replying, I don't recall getting a notification for your reply.
If you ask me, Montana is God's country. I rode out of Bozeman on my way out west, with the plan of going up to Kalispell and Glacier. That morning leaving Bozeman is was pouring rain, and the rain lasted about four hours. By the time I was finally seeing clear skies I was a short distance from Swan Lake. It cleared up and was about 73 degrees, and I don't think I've had a more enjoyable ride as cruising up hwy 83 with Swan Lake on one side and the Flathead National Forest on the other. When I rode into Kalispel in the late afternoon, the town seemed like home brother. Friendly folks, and had a good steak dinner that night..... A great time. Hope your travels are safe and as fun as mine.
The most refreshing motorcycle in this segment in the last 10, if not 15 years.
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This is one of the coolest T7’s I’ve seen so far! Great mods
Does it have an AC!
I took delivery of my new Tenere 700 in May 2021 without a test ride, and I'm loving it! I can't get enough of the sound, and that's with just the stock exhaust fitted. 😁
Had a T7. The engine truly is a gem. Seat height is too tall. It is top heavy. With accessories it weighs close to 500 lbs. When it starts to tip over....sold it. I much prefer my 300 lb dual sport.
Thanks for bringing me back down to reality.
Great video. I picked up a T7 a month ago and rode the MABDR. It's my first adventure bike and it was my first BDR and the bike was great. It's comfortable and great to ride on twisty roads, the highway, dirt roads, and some two track. Only downside is the fuel tank @ 4.1 gallons which provides about 200 miles of range which isn't great. I was considering waiting for the new rumoured T7 with a larger fuel tank but based on how long it took for Yamaha to release the current T7, along with the current global supply chain issues, you might have to wait 3 more years for that one. I highly recommend anyone thinking about this bike to try it out.
I am in my 75th day of riding one thru dozens of mountain passes in Europe. It was Touratech’s exhibition bike. Has every Touratech accessory including suspension. I am in love. It has torque everywhere. It dives into turns. I wouldn’t mind a 7th gear for the Autostradas. But it can go 130 km/hr all day as is. Today I went through two really tough passes near Cuneo, Italy. Definitely a hiking road in places. Colle Fauniera and Col d’Esischie where I actually used 1st gear! These passes have cars coming the other way. The bike just goes where you want it to. I am74 years old w a 30” inseam. It was tough in beginning but fine now. I think my hips must be widening like a pregnant woman! I’ve noticed that revving high in 1st gear when I have to go off-road gives me gyroscopic stability even at low speeds where the wheels would not. It’s kind of magical.
What is your audio setup? Nice mix.
Did you take it off road? Drop it? Then you will find 200+kg is a lot
@@mangomears1 yes I dropped it. Several times. I needed help just to get out from under it! My foot got caught each time. I need better boots.
You have some great roads, and you genuinely seem to enjoy yourself in this episode - it must be the bike 👍
I totally agree with you I bought my T7 rally edition about six months ago now still loving life from sunny Cyprus. 😎🌞
Thanks for the very informative video. I recently took a test drive with the Ténéré 700 and took a wrong turn. Instead of a gravel road, I found myself on a dirt road with light mud. I drive a Super Ténéré 1200 privately. If I had landed there with this one, I would certainly have turned back, but with the T7 I felt immediately able to tackle this section. And that on my very first trip. I didn't know the machine. So I can completely confirm what you report in your video. This motorcycle lets you go further. I am still undecided whether I will sell my 1200 for the T7, but "the little one" is really great fun! Best regards from Germany!
From Kenya, could you sell it to me?
@@mosesngatiah6365 lol u need to sell your wholle village for that, bro!
@@samuraidoggy Village it is.
Most KLR owners asked for better suspension and a sixth gear. A few of us asked for EFI and ABS in addition to a 6th gear and better suspension. I’ve seen very few on the KLR forums ask for more cylinders or a lot more HP.
I have a drz and I love it but I want to do more road riding and long distance riding. Efi would be awesome and defined a 6th gear. The drz does not have enough power for the hills where I live. The 700 seems almost perfect. I think a t900 would be the best but I’m ok with a 700. I was looking at the Africa twin too. It may be the bike h get after the t7
After a test ride at the tourtech event in NH, I want one bad. Probably won't get one forever, but it's a legit bike and I felt at home. Tracking is insane, power is decent, rear brake is soft, front brakes are great, loved seating, truly a great bike! Yes we have always wanted, it's about time!
This T7 appears to be universally the most liked Adventure bike around.Seldom hear a bad word about it.I can hear your genuine enthusiasm for it.I may yet consider it.Cheers.
Nice initial ride review. Yes, many of us don’t want 16 levels of ride and traction control and a TFT screen with 35 different menus to navigate. Yamaha did hit it out of the park with the Tenere 700. I have an MT-07, so I know how good that motor is. The issue for me with getting a T7 is that I think it would be too much overlap to have both the MT-07 and the T7. I’d have to do one or the other and I really love my 2020 MT-07. I’m going to wait a year or so and see what might happen with KTM and the 490 platform and if Suzuki or Kawasaki does something new.
Thanks for your reviews!
One thing I'd like to see though, which NOBODY (that I've found) does, is reviewing bikes fully loaded with gear.
Yes it's fun to blat these things through the local twisties and trails empty or near-empty, quite another to see how they perform once loaded up with a realistic loadout gear for an extended trip - which is arguably the main dream/aim of anybody in the market for an adventure bike! If anybody knows of anyone who does these kinds of reviews, I'd love to hear about it!
Another thing I'd like to see would be to add metric units to your videos. I have absolutely no concept of what 60 pounds is. Yes, I can go and look it up, but not in realtime while watching, and I doubt I'm the only person watching from another country!
Keep up the great work :)
Thats a good point. I made a post TET review of the T7, but I didnt mention the luggage even though my bike was fully loaded the whole trip. All the points/arguments I made in my video are based on the bike with full luggage.
Bike handled the gear with ease. Fully loaded mosko r80 system. Barely noticed it, on the highway to tight single track and hillclimbs. If you’re after a bike that can travel the world and do gravel roads this bike is close to perfect- just make sure you’re able to lift it when you tip over. Hope this was helpful. Ride safe!
@@JohannesDalenMC Do you have a link to your review please? (EDIT: Found it - for others who are interested : th-cam.com/video/EFeN6i71E0Q/w-d-xo.html)
And thank you for your reply. Considering options, at this stage it's more just a crazy idea to ride back to Europe from Japan (taking a contract break when I relocate back to Europe) and the T7 ranks highly on my shortlist largely due to the simplicity of the bike. Less things to break.
Haven't found a place which rents them out here yet though, would like to spend a few days riding it around, see how it fits me.
The reason I asked about the luggage is that all reviewers comment on how relatively softly sprung the suspension is, so wondering how it goes once loaded up or if aftermarket suspension is pretty much a requirement.
Recently borrowed a friends KTM790R for a week, and it was awesome - unfortunately just on roads though - except for highway. Definitely did not enjoy that. I found it very uncomfortable even at just 100-110kmh. Lots of wind/head buffeting made for a very exhausting 4 hours or so back from where I'd ended up. Otherwise it was great, but the reported reliability issues make me very wary of taking it away from civilisation.
I've done a couple thousand miles loaded up - including tail of the dragon - I'll say that the t7 handles it incredibly well. The biggest hit is fuel mileage, that advertised 50mpg gets pretty close to 30 when you're going 85mph
edit: I tried a 1000 mile day, the t7 has *just* enough protection to not be exhausting. It's still got a decent bit of wind noise and the seat hurts quite a bit, but it's doable.
@@markymarkmoto Damn, that's nearly 8l/100km.. so barely 200km range.
@@MichaelWerle Yup. The stock gearing puts the bike at ~6500rpm at 85mph, plus wind resistance. I'm coming from a KLR, so that seems insane to me, but the bike seems totally comfortable there. Gas stations are a good little stretch at those intervals, but expensive....ish. 70-75mph is the sweet spot with stock gearing
I just lowered my T7 World raid with lowering links, I'm so pleased that I did it, it's really boosted my confidence at low speeds and at standstill, the handling and riding position is the same and the bike feels much lighter and more manageable. I lowered it 40mm on the links and 18mm on the forks, I left the pre load the same but will have the option now to wind it up a bit if I load it up with panniers. The bike now feels great. I'm 6.1" so not short but it's made a huge difference.
IMO your spot on with your assessment of the T7. I have over the years had numerous dual sport and adventure bikes from KTM 500's to BMW 1200's and I now have a T7 which I believe is the closest image of a unicorn do it all bike. I rode the first KTM 790 R that was in the country some years ago at KTM days in Phoenix and enjoyed it but it did not have a wow factor with me. From asphalt to wild CO passes mild to moderate single track it puts a smile on my face every-time I get on it. I also, as yourself, believe this is the best sounding bike I have ever owned, I'm not into loud at all it's just got that sound like your going through a tunnel all of the time.
When you're riding it, it feels like a 160 kg bike, when you have to pick it up, it feels like 230 kg. All in all a fantastic bike, but I personally found it too heavy for my kind of riding.
Pro tip: Add stiffer springs in the fork and perhaps some thicker oil and a stiffer spring in the back, it makes a world of difference.
Excellent video as always!
I know the feeling!
My KTM 690 Enduro R feels like a 130kg bike when riding it but like a 200kg when trying to pick it up. However that's old age I guess!!
.. True, but what is the closest bike to T7 regard Kgs.. ?! 🤔
I guess this is true we haven't seen you pick up the bike on a 95-degree day in the desert sand 5x and comment on how perfect it is. Get it on some singletrack and pick it up more than once and then let us know if the weight bothers you. That is the best-looking Tenere I've seen! but I do like the high pipe that I saw on the Swankycat show. Someone oughta make a high pipe Tenere that looks like an English scrambler ....that would be cool.
@@zzxx33mh I’m sorry but I dont quite understand your question. Can you please rephrase?
@@ssmith954 I’m sure that crazy engine keeps you young - ride safe 🙂
Yamaha nailed it for many ADV riders who want a good bike for street (including highway cruising) as well as off road. The most common observation is "like a big dirt bike". That's what a large segment of the market was wanting. I don't like highway riding. Not my idea of "adventure", so the T7 is a bit large for me. I wish they made a 400-500cc version with a large rear rack and large fuel tank, as a proper ADV bike should have.
Some Australians have made some mods including suspension upgrades and are doing serious offroad riding with their T7s.
Honda CB500X with rally raid kit.
Best sounding bike I’ve heard with that exhaust love it. And Best looking bike with that graphics kit. 👍🏻😁😎
Great initial review, Ian! I'm very keen to hear how the T7 compares with the first gen African Twin (I'm cross shopping the two) for adv touring and 50/50 duties. Your comparative analysis, thoroughness and honesty for real world riders is what makes your channel stand out. Keep up the great work. PS Am an ex KLR650 guy.
Go for T7..fresh..
“Keep it long term” that’s what for you Ian, 6 months? LOL. Great review!
Thanks again. You've been my go to guy when trying to find the right adventure bike. And in my research I've found out I don't really want an adventure bike. All I really want is a dirt bike that can ride on as little road as possible to get me to the backcountry dirt/gravel roads. "It feels like a big dirt bike, and less like an adventure bike". Exactly what I wanted
That was awesome! I am primarily an off-road dirt bike rider and this makes me want to get a T7!
So i watched this nice video just for entertainment, because i am riding mine now since a year or so. Now having 15.000 km on the clock. I can say that i agree almost everything you pointed out. Last winter i spent 2 months in spain for offroading. All the time i had singlezylinder-bikes with me, and i can tell you that i done so many crazy stuff with this bike. I made nearly everthing what the other guys had done with their lightweight-bikes. (sometimes even a little bit more...hahaha....) Ok, i dropped it a couple of times, and because of the weight it is harder to pick it up, compared to the small toys. Specially when you are exhausted. But in the end i just can say, this is by far the best bike I owned in my life so far. (and i had a lot because i do offroading now since 30 years) Hey, great video. Best regards to everyone. Ride safe and smile. Bye from germany.
You can tell right away your excitement about the bike. That's what it's all about brother. Motorcycles👍
Great video review & I really appreciate the information!
Your throttle steering thru the corners is how I ride my XR650R…it’s such a blast. The T7 may just be the next addition to the stable :)
Me too
So I realized a long time ago, after riding an XR500 and various single cylinder bikes, that a parallel twin engine is just WAY more fun off road. There's a thrill factor with a parallel twin, that you just don't get at all with a single. The way the parallel twins hold high RPM's with glassy precision, or how they can be idled down to a tractor crawl in the forest, at 1500 rpms, without chugging or stalling, is just amazing. This is why I wish manufacturers would make more medium displacement parallel twin dirtbikes. In the past, there were dozens of parallel twin bikes sold, like the CB450, CB350, CB360, Yamaha XS400, Kawasaki KZ750 twin, KZ400. I've driven several of these bikes off road, and there is nothing better than a high RPM parallel twin, powering down a sandy fire road. It's not about the horsepower, it's about the smooth, mesmerizing sound, and feel.
well said! i agree
Another great video brother. I’ve had my T7 since April and just completed the COBDR last week on it flawless.. I’ve done plenty of mods to mine as well, new brake pads front and rear made a difference, double take mirrors, and I bought a puig windscreen because I’m 6ft 1in tall and that was another huge change in the wind.. also I’m 200 lbs and changed the rear shock spring to beef up the suspension and get the sag correct. The bike rules. enjoy! it’s a blast.
Good to see someone who can ride an adv bike off road. I only take day trips and usually only to get to off road trails so I use a 2024 KTM 500EXC-f. For 2024 they upped the hp to 64 and the bike only weighs 250lbs.
Great video, honest review. Proud 1 month owner of a 2022 T7 Rally edition ;) The only bike to sell this for would be another newer T7 it seems
how is your 2 months experience ? Thinking to buy one and my other option is Aprilia Tuareg really confused now.
@@ugrdncr Absolutely fantastic. Never tried off-road. I'm really enjoying it on-road so far. Nothing negative about the T7
Your quote "Just buy one" - that's the attitude 😀But indeed, my T7 is an amazing bike! I'm waiting till Honda release their 750 TransAlp 2023! Cheers, H
In a future video, could you provide insights on why Yamaha made the Tenere 700 if they weren’t going to make very many to sell? I test rode two of them (one was lowered) at a demo event, and thought the bike was great. My local dealer can’t seem to get them to sell. As a consumer, I find that extremely annoying. That same dealer has had no trouble getting and selling the KTM 790 and now the 890. The local Honda dealer has also had Africa Twins in stock during the entire plague. It also appears that Kawasaki KLR650s are starting to arrive at dealers; yet still no Tenere 700s.
Japanese covid restrictions. They're much stricter than the US
@@markymarkmoto You could be correct; however, I remain very skeptical. The whole rollout of the Tenere 700 in the US has been problematic for Yamaha. Delays were already occurring prior to the pandemic in that a bunch of bikes should have already been manufactured. In contrast, Honda hasn’t had anywhere near the amount of trouble in stocking their bikes at local dealerships. My local Yamaha dealerships have virtually no new Yamaha inventory except for generators/inverters.
I think it’s mostly COVID related and the general high demand for this bike. Like u said though, in general Yamaha has nothing at their dealers including watercraft. Perhaps as a company they are even more precautionary? If their is a conspiracy…..possibly a smaller launch here in the US, build the hype and then mark up the cost 2k more. This seems to have happened in the rest of world?
@@martin4819 I don’t believe there was any kind of conspiracy, just a huge missed opportunity on Yamaha`s part. They could have gained huge market share and crushed the competition if they had the foresight to make the bikes. Keep in mind they were sold elsewhere around the world for more than a year prior to entering the US market. As it is now , the new KLR will be stiff competition. While it is not a better bike than the Tenere 700 it is $3000 less expensive and can do all the same things. Yamaha had a window of time where their bike was the least expensive by far and was arguably better than much of the competition.
@@vtrack1963 I agree, I don't buy into the whole Covid BS because most of the other manufacturers are getting their bikes to dealers. All of the dealers around me are full of 2021 and now some 2022 MY bikes yet Yamaha is nowhere to be seen.
I wanted the T7 from the very moment they released the concept photos and then I got to ride one last year and I knew it was the bike for me. Fast forward a year later and there are still no bikes to be found anywhere so I settled for my second choice, a KTM 890 Adventure R. I wasn't about to wait another 6-12 months or longer, time itself and great riding weather and opportunities were passing me by all for the sake of a $10K bike, not worth it.
Think of how many others are out there like myself and moved on to another manufacturer. I spent nearly $4K more for a competitors bike because Yamaha dropped the ball and I am sure there will be many others that move on and spend even less on options like the new KLR or lightly used bikes. I still hope to have a T7 in the garage in the future but for now I've moved on and that's a strike against Yamaha in my book. YMMV.
One of the best reviews on this bike I have seen!
I love the t7 the simplicity of the bike it doesnt have a lot of electronic its just the bike and the driver.
That exhaust sounds very similar to the stock exhaust with the spark arrester removed. I didn't feel the need for an aftermarket one, I just put the spark arrestor back in if I'm doing any real off-road. I LOVE THIS BIKE.
Back in the 90s I had the 660 Tenere and it was a pretty great bike even back then.
The main downside was the tiny battery that would go flat and left me stranded a few times, It was such a big bike it was almost impossible to bump start (a few times I tried until I was exhausted).
The other issue I had was the 660 was top heavy and I dropped it at the gas station after a fill up. I just swung my leg over it and it kept going and I couldn't push it back. I'm 6' and was about 210lbs then.
In the end I traded it towards an FZR600R, which was a great bike, but I always missed my Tenere.
Love from India...been watching your videos since 2 months loved it... African twin ❤️
What Honda needs to do is make a CRF 450L rally with long maintenance intervals already. For me that would be the sweet spot. The T7 is amazing, but is rather heavy. So if I had one it would be in more of an adventure role. Until then my dr650 does everything I need it to do and is still a blast to ride.
Had the pleasure to ride alongside two of these (Rented from Eagle Rider Las Vegas) in Nevada, Arizona and Utah 2 weeks ago. 3.5 day ride around the Grand Canyon. The T7 riders who normally ride BMWs loved the platform. The only critical comments they had was highway transit at speed over 70mph, both bikes exhibiting high speed wobble and gearing issues. The other criticism they had was fuel range as a result of the 3 gallon tank. On two occasions hitting reserve miles before a fuel stop. Other than that the comments regarding handling dynamics, esp off road were overwhelmingly positive and coming from one of the two odd balls out on this ride, me riding a r1200RT, the T7s looked fantastic in their element.
Nice Vid! thank you. The heaviest dirt bike I ever owned was a DRZ400. Never felt that bad(heavy), until I bought a KTM450EXC(oh boy). That T7 works so well on those trails...impressive!!
found your channel a few months ago. really great reviews! it's amazing how good your recording of your voice is while you are riding. I can hear every word you are saying and it's so clear and clean. no bouncing or bumping noise of your voice in the recording. I can't wait to get my 2023 Tenere 700!
Just told my wife I’m buying one
She said I’m crazy
No where in there did I hear a no
🤘🤘🤘
I do love the look of this one great compilation of colors
This exactly the kinda bike I’ve been wanting
Great vid!!! Can't wait for when you can do a new KLR comparison review, but, my goodness this T7 is my favorite bike right now... Happy for you that you got one.. 👍
Thoroughly enjoyed this vid and will greatly appreciate a run down on the various adventure bikes out there in the market with each of their tradeoffs. I’ve only ever ridden street but have steadily been gaining interest in trying my hand out trail exploration and being able to ride the local fire roads. I’ve been keen on the KLX300 dual sport but worried about its ability to ride the freeways to get me to those trails I want to explore. It sounds like this Yamaha is exactly what I would want, giving me that extra juice without going full bore in weight, electronics, and unnecessary power that a full fledged adventure bike would give.
First. Nice, I only have a superbike at the moment but I really want an adv and your channel has been giving me good info on what I need to know! Thanks!
I'm not even a fan of Japanese Bikes, but this Tenere is definitely one that I would consider for an adventure type bike in the near future, but it's probably all the mods that you've had added on there that make this bike look much more appealing than what it would be stock form just going to a dealership and looking at it! You should do a full review with all the mods on it, I am sure a lot of people want to know about all the mods and where to get them. Fantastic content this video.
Then what bikes are you a fan of? That’s like 90% of bikes made are Japanese bikes
@@cw9766 Well I've actually never owned a Japanese Bike and probably Never will excuse my Super Biased outlook, I Only Buy BMW, Triumph, Husqvarna, and Ducati! You know the 10% left of Manufacturers of Motorcycles, and adding to that with the Ducati Desert Sled X being out now, in my humble opinion it's way better than Yamaha 700 Tenere!
So basically you prefer to ride unreliable euro junk?
You are spot on about the CP2 T7 engine. It is so tractable that I have been able to start moving in 3rd gear. It has a beautiful power band.
I bought a tenere this year and the bike far exceeded all my expectations.
Great sounding engine, that alone is tempting. I’m glad there isn’t as much electronics as compared to the Honda Africa Twin, that would be annoying.
Exactly. Engines this size only need 1 riding mode- your right hand. Although heated grips and cruise would be awesome.
I'm so envious of the trails & tracks you guys seem to have everywhere!! Over here where I am, in the UK, it's hard to find much in the way off road riding.
Done almost 15 000 km on mine, mostly fire roads, dirt roads, trails and paved roads. I sold my XT1200SE a year after I bought my T7. I also have a WR450F for gnarly trails. The T7 fits right in the middle, and you can do almost everything with it. I have upgraded the spring event hough I am only 195 and it improves the ride offroad significantly.
10k for a powerful, efficient, tough, and capable bike is a steal. It looks fantastic, Yamaha can really build a bike. And this proves that they're a special company. My only issue is my height.. it's hard to find something low enough to feel confident at my height though.
Loved this! You are just getting better and better - great riding, cool decal set, nice visuals, great sound/commentary. Awesome content :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Who again makes the graphics kit?
I need one. I’m on a DRZ now. Had T1200 2013 and loved that Yamaha. I got it new.
Finally watching this vid with T7 in my garage. Feels amazing. If its more than 10° celsius im riding it 🎉🎉 Its a great, I feel confident on road and on fire trails. Good thing is it doesnt have too much power. After 150km im feeling fresh after ride. Would definetly recommend.
Well done as always! One thing to note, it is very heavy to pick up after dropping. I sold my T7 and now have a KTM 890 and it is alot lighter to pick up.
Is it bc of the low gas tank on the KTM? On paper they should be close to to same weight.
@@shoakman I assume the weight is much lower and the bike rests on the tank sort of like a GS on the cylinders. It’s a deal breaker for me since riding alot with luggage I can barely pick up the T7.
Even though this bike is way too big for me (5ft7) it is still my favourite. How good does it look and sound!!! Wish they would make a Tenere 500!!!!
Just worked a 13 hour shift and should be in bed, but when I saw that you finally dropped this, I had to grab a beer and start watching. Very pleased to see you getting some seat time on her and you sounded like you had an amazing time. Not to mention where you live is sublimely gorgeous. This and the vstrom are contenders for my next bike'
You can change the link pipe to a suitable bend to move the muffler higher above the swingarm👍
This is a beautiful bike! Thanks for sharing this. I’ve been eyeballing the 300s from the big 4, and I am having one hell of a time choosing. I was sold on the WR250R but they stopped making it and I would like to get new. I’ve watched hundreds of videos and I can’t even start to decide. Keep up the hard work and thanks for sharing your thoughts.
the exhaust hanger is no problem it bends at the bottom if you crash hard and just bend it back, had T7 2 years and crashed it loads of times and exhaust hanger is fine, it will bend back no problem.
Always another bike to be all excited about and this is one of those! Looking in my crystal ball I can see one of these in the garage in the near future. The only concern I have is the way the exhaust mount is so vulnerable. If a hit can damage the frame beyond repair that is extremely concerning in my view. I mean let's face it, anyone can have drop. So if and when I do buy one that's gonna be very high on my list of Mods. Otherwise so far I don't see anything that would make me feel like I couldn't hop one of these and really ride it almost anywhere. BTW thx for taking the time to revue this bike. Every little bit of info is good info...
Ryan @ fortnine has a degree in Pysics from McGiil University in Canada. That gives his reviews credibility in regards to the the dynamics regarding moto handling. His review on the T7 was also good, as is yours.
Finally some one riding this bike how I would ride it! Glad to hear you talk about the suspension and give a realistic opinion.
Enjoyed that, good review, looking forward to the others coming up. Thanks.
Yes yes I would that bike looks and sounds awesome your enthusiasm was carried over well into the video we will see how long it last in the Big Rock stable!
Fingers crossed!
I love the look of this bike, like a real rally racer. Can’t beat Yamaha build quality either
Spot on review. I got a white one. 8,000 miles so far and love it more after every ride! I like to ride blue and black jeep roads, and it handles the technical competently. Plus I've done several 1,000 plus multi-day trips with all the gear and it just rocks it! Thanks. A perfect 50/50 bike.
agreed
I've been watching a lot of adv bikes reviews because I couldn't decide what to get...(Norden, 890 adv, africa twin, tenere, etc). Since the price of the Tenere here in mexico is at 13k, I was considering getting the ktm and get all the electronics since they sell at approx the same price down here. But, the way that you enjoyed yourself in this video with the tenere showed me that its all about how the bike makes you feel, regardless of how many extra components it has. I'm def going for the tenere after seeing this (also the sound is a very big plus). Thanks for the review 🇲🇽
Nice review. I would buy a T7 if one were available. Honestly, I gave up on getting one.
T7 is a bad ass bike, it's good for the street and you can take it on some pretty gnarly trails
Great video! I owned a T7 , sold it due to its weight. Buttt it is a brilliant bike the only downsides where exhaust position and weight. Engine is sweeeet!
This is one of the coolest T7’s I’ve seen so far! Great
Holey Smoke. that is one nice looking T7. My Fav colors. I've just sold my KTM890r and bought a second hand Yamaha XT660r with only 5000miles.Gone from one extreme to the other as I just did not have confidence in the 890's longevity and reliability. I'm sticking to Japanese bike from now on. Good on you Ian
I would've been more than happy for this short 'initial impressions' review to have lasted a lot longer. Super informative.
Glad it was helpful!
This is the best review of T7 I’ve ever seen. Beautiful scenery ! What a bike!
HP course high mount sold on Belissimo relocated the exhaust under the standard muffler mount comes out under the seat to the left, i am in love with the T7, this is the bike people have been wanting. Remember when adventure bikes came out were only 250-500 cc with no nannies. I am saving now for one, and praying i can get the cash up before Euro6 tries to kill the T7
I really liked your first ever video I chanced upon - I guess it was about your Mazda CX5 - because of the highly analytical and objective way in which you explained its pros and cons (I am a big fan of the CX5, so was checking out some reviews). But, to be honest, I thought your style of delivery edged on monotonous and boring (sorry!), and because you were mostly recording your videos while sitting/standing and just speaking (however well), I never took you for much of a rider. But man, how this channel has grown on me! Your content is still highly analytical, which is very important for a thorough comparison, and this video just goes to show how good of a rider you actually are, and why your opinions deserve a lot of respect.
You are really doing a great job with these reviews (which keep improving all the time), Ian - please keep them coming. I'm a convert! :D
Agreed. Seeing him ride conveys how much more dynamic and intuitive the bike is in real life. The little comments about bumps, throttle steering etc tell me that the bike is easy to manipulate.
The numbers of times I have said "man I wish BRM would get bike X"........ thanks man, you did it again. Awesome, simply awesome. Thank you for the on road portion. Like you say there are tons of videos on this bike but I need more info on it's weakness, tarmac?!?
wekaness - seat not great, fuel tank too small should have been 5 gallons, exhaust mounting leads tol possible bent frame. not perfect by any means
@@BigRockMoto Appreciate the reply and feedback. Thanks!
That is one stunning motorcycle , and that sound .. love it !
Best looking T7 I’ve seen. Question Ian, do you think the T7 could carry a lightweight pillion on day rides? Obviously some rear seat rebuilding and rear spring changes permitting. I’m struggling with the idea of 230kg dual purpose bikes these days. Thanks, looking forward to future stories.
Google custom/modified T7 images.
A ton of top notch, imo better looking, T7's in Europe and particularly Australia.
Some insanely good decal kits available.
would be fine with a pillion, yes, just change rear spring
@J D yes but you are starting from a lower base than say an R1200GS where you end up on a 250 kg bike. I’ve owned a 1200GSA and ridden it fully loaded up trails with a pillion. I’m completely over this trend to pack more weight into bikes.
1 Great video/review. 2. graphics on that bike are awesome. love it. 3. Did the original owner do any suspension mods at all? normally when an owner has taken the time to modify the exhaust, and do a tune, they'd have done the suspension first. I don't think any reviewers have criticized the power, just the suspension, so that's normally the first mod. But to each his own. Definitely a nice bike. looking forward to more reviews/rides.
Wow, I’m really impressed. I don’t like the bigger heavier bikes at all but this might change my mind. I’ve heard a ton of people talk about how great it is right off the showroom floor and I have kind of ignored it but after watching this I really want to get my hands on one and check it out. I do like the bigger bikes I love the Africa and I even like the BMW a lot but they’re just a little too unrealistic for me, if I was a billionaire I would probably have both made sit in my garage way road something else most of the time but I’d still like them once in a while but unless I’m putting on a lot of miles I just don’t want to drive a big heavy bike around, especially off-road, but I drove an XL 600 for a while and I love the Kailer which is a big heavy bike but still too big and heavy and I like the XR 650 LNDR 650 but this seems more doable in the Africa and some of the others end I definitely like what you said about having less electronics and tech on it. I don’t hate Tech but for a bike you’re taking off road it’s just a lot more crap to break and makes everything harder to work on and just is kind of an unnecessary headache for someone like me. I watch this because it rolled onto my TH-cam and I was busy doing some thing else but I’m really impressed with it. When Hondas asking 11 grand for a CRF 450 that I don’t really like and don’t think is worth even close to that money next to this there’s just no question in my mind because I’m not a motocrosser and I thought these were a lot more expensive but you said they’re about 10 grand and that’s still pretty expensive but that’s a reasonable amount to pay for something like this to where the KTM and stuff are great but The prices are just ridiculous. 🤔 Great video
Thanks for the great review Ian, happy adventuring!
Hi Ian. The T7 review was excellent. Yes, this is a special motorcycle... There are hundreds of motorcycle models, but the T7 is kind of a game changer hitting that sweet spot of versatility. One of the other commenters mentioned that "no T7 looks like the other"... Chris at the motorcycle shop in Yucca Valley has a sweet T7 that has the classic Yamaha yellow/black graphics that make the bike look like a vintage YZ that Bob Hannah rode, or a TZ750 that Kenny Roberts rode... I love the nostalgia. Hey I would love to talk offline. You can reach me at the national park where we met. I also like that you touched on the balance of simplicity vs "too much technology". I hope your channel gets the attention of the the big 4 corporate HQs including Torrance and Cypress CA.
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This is one of the best T700 reviews ive watched, Spot on
Thanks for the review. Looks like an awesome bike. Just the right amount of power, simple electronics and lighter weight. Back in the 80's I had a Honda Hawk 450. I put knobby tires on it, longer shocks in back, and mounted a plastic fender in front. This was awesome for winter riding around town, and lots of fun on logging roads in summer. I even gave a few cars a boost when they left their lights on or something. Cheers from Canada :-)
Thanks for a great, informative review.
This looks like the perfect bike for me, coming from the ‘06 KLR I’ve been riding for fourteen years.
I bought the new Honda CRF300 Rally for off-road exploring, but this T7 looks like it can handle the trails well, also.
Like you, I think the exhaust could have been hung a bit higher, but, it’s not a deal breaker for me.
Happy Trails
Keeping simplicity and bang for your buck I think your gonna like it! Enjoy the Adventure!
Fantastic review of the bike! Yours is set up just right in my opinion, hoping I can find one like that.
Great video. You are 100% right, this is everything the KLR should have been. I wish Yamaha would listen to the TW200 community and up the HP and add EFI to the TDub.
The reason the "jerkiness" on and off throttle goes away after a dyno tune is because the tuners remove the fuel cut setting. I believe most normal factory vehicles do a hard fuel cut after a second of having the throttle completely closed during hard deceleration, because you get better engine braking, more engine life, no popping or gurgling, and no emissions at all when the fuel injectors are totally shut off during extended deceleration. Turning on just a smidge of fuel at all times, prevents the abrupt snatchiness when you return back to the throttle.
Putting the words ‘blowing away’ in a title about a T700 will have KTM riders sneering , they don’t like them , they don’t like the attention & good reviews the bikes had since it’s arrival , they don’t like any notice going off KTM’s ..
it’s why they are painted so loud in bright Orange , whereT7’s are subtle , so maybe the previous owner of this bike went on to KTM ‘s himself after seeing the over-bling paint job he did on this poor Yamaha. Great review , this bloke knows his stuff.
That has to be the best looking and set up Tenéré 700 I've ever seen,love it!
Really enjoyed the video,good work and earned a new sub!
Have no problems with the 700 other than the looks. I don't like it at all. The engine is fantastic. But I can't get over the looks man.
WOW.. super amazing bike.. i love it soooo much.. i think i will get one.. i own a V-Strom now because i need to ride in couple and the V-strom it is a little better into doing this.. But the T7 is on my list.. thanks for your opinion ..
Nice looking bike and the decals really set it off