Herbst low loader trailer in a bad way! Only came in for new axles to be fitted. Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- So this job was unseen until it turned up in the yard, I was under the impression that it was just a spring hanger that had broken off and the axles to change.
Under further investigation, it was clear to see that the chassis was not in a very good state. I firstly removed the ramps, then the front box so that the whole trailer could be turned upside down.
After flipping it over, i gave it a power wash off to remove some of the soil and rust before trying to maneuver it into the workshop.
My little forklift was struggling to lift the back of the trailer and have enough weight on the back of the forklift to steer so we got it as near to the workshop as we could before i cut the axles off to remove weight. The trailer was then light enough to be moved into the workshop.
After attacking the chassis with the hammer to remove the layers of rust, i cut off the old spring hangers and mounts with the plasma cutter, they were all in a pretty bad way.
I used the air chisel to remove more rust and found several holes in the chassis. The bad areas were cut out and cleaned up ready for new steel to be welded back in.
Hope you enjoyed the video
Thanks for watching!
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This to me is the type of job the customer states: "just want the new axles welding on, nothing else." On investigation there are tons of issues e.g. all nuts and bolts are "rust welded" together, the areas to be welded are full of rust holes.
On informing the customer they don't want to pay for a safe job, instead state "just do the minimum to get it working I hardly use it and when I do Its only light loads."
Three weeks later they contact you from the side of a motorway saying "the axles you fitted have failed", " Ive dropped my load all over the motorway and the police want to talk to you about your work on this trailer.
Make sure you put a disclaimer note on their invoice about the overall condition of the trailer if it is to be used on public roads.
Great content, can't wait for part two.
Absolutely true. Farmers stays farmers. I have been living on the country side for decades and know them. Doesn't matter what country they live in. Minimum maintenance and use the equipment on hard work. The outcome is always the same.
Yes a disclaimer and a copy of this video showing the initial inspection of the rusted frame and spring mounts
Ollie I find it difficult to understand people who buy new axles and ask you to attach them to what is a lump of rust it can only bring forward the day when trailers will have to be m.o.t ed. If it failed in service I bet you would blamed so be careful, Somerset mike.
I would have said, no from the beginning after my initial assessment of the job.
It's either I do the job and fix it safely for the rated capacity of the trailer.
Your choice.
Great advice.
A second coffee was required before I get up.
I used to do insurance inspections for the NFU and I was always amazed by how little ongoing maintenance farmers seemed to do on their kit and equipment. A good number seemed to buy stuff new and then just run it, literally into the ground, then complain bitterly about how much it was going to cost to replace/repair.
It's not just farmers, I think it's a typical human nature, and not a good one!
In our household we have rather old, very high mileage vehicles, bicycles, tools and equipment. With just a little cleaning, rustproofing, and regular maintenance, mechanical things can safely and economically last many many times longer than things bought and used without care.
We all have started them "all it needs" jobs . Top work as always Oliver .
Haven't we just,, or "it's just a small job", meaning I want it done cheaply and by tomorrow.
Sometime you wanna say Remove the tail lights and the tow hitch, replace the everything between and your good to go,
@@fowletm1992 so right. You don't know about the pain and heartache until someone else claims against you, defending your innocence can be 10x the cost of admitting fault to make the issue go away.
"We only use it for light stuff, never to capacity." - said every trailer owner, ever... 🤣
The dude is a skinflint 😮
Yep. Or the infamous, "It doesn't hurt to overload them once in a while. They're designed for that."
Finished the video. And man, once again, i'm surprised and impressed (and partly awed) at the dedication to turn swiss cheese into a trailer. Ollie, your work ethic is out of this world. Nice work!
Triggers broom comes to mind on this job Ollie.
It ain't knackered until Oliver says it's knackered.
Thanks! You know gluttony is one seven deadly sins? I guess the punishment was working on it! Great work as always
10:44 Consider making a rotisserie. The main ingredient (the rotation, both to rotate and to keep in place) can be handled by old axles. Take a pair of axles, weld the diffs, weld them to a frame, hook one of the pumpkins to a geared electric motor and you can rotate it, and the other end of the axle do a large metal disk that can be used as a brake. Working with a rotisserie on stuff like this makes life so much easier. One of my brother's neighbors made one years ago out of an old tractor (which still powers the rotisserie through the rotation - but it's not necessary, an electric motor will do the job just fine.) and two military half ton axles. He rents it once in a while whenever people need to repair frames or trailers. Really neat stuff.
That would be a great idea!
At least make a dolley so you can move those large jobs arround.
We used to work on train carriages upside down in Derby works, so easily turned.
A classic "It will buff out" job !!
That’s a fine hair cut Ollie. 👌🏻
Strong argument for trailer mot inspections
Trailers, at least those pulled by HGV's are subject to MoT's.. this is used as an agricultural trailer so I'm guessing it's exempt.
@@jamonit7169 Yep, it's a loophole to go with all the rust holes.
@@gav2759 It's an exemption not a loophole. It applies to all trailers including caravans...
@@jamonit7169 You're right. and considering how petty many of our regulations appear to be, it is a glaring and unfathomable omission.
@@jamonit7169 Doesn't matter if it's exempt, it still needs to be road worthy to be used on the highway.
When you showed us this trailer at start, I thought it was going for scrap, but with your talent, I can't wait to c the end product
That trailer really wanted scrapping !🙈but with a load of your work and dedication it will live on 👍
Well done, Ollie. More magic from Snowball. If they insist on giving you dirty plant to work on, you should charge them an extra £500. That'll get them to crack out the pressure washer themselves. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe and keep up the awesome work. 🧔👍✌
‘On any Sunday’ Ollie and Snowball Engineering to the rescue yet again, hard graft and your undoubted skills will rescue this trailer to at least last a few more years! Well done Ollie
"Just put new axles on mate" ... heard it before, so often, in different contexts!! Good fixes fella! 😜 I bet, despite what seems like endless graft, you still did the best job far, far cheaper than a new trailer! Can't wait to see the axles go on!
I can guarantee there will come a stage where your able to say "yes I can fix it but boy you will pay for it " great attitude at the moment but your patience will eventually wear thin on jobs like this mate 😉 👍
When I worked in a shipyard we used a product called “Ospho” (phosphoric acid) to treat areas we’d chipped prior to painting. Did a good job of treating the rust.
Im a farmer myself and i use the same stuff on trailers to treat the rust prior to painting
Wow, you took on a job there ! 'It's not very good' is an understatement. The customer will use the trailer to it's full capacity no doubt, 20 ton machine on it. I had every confidence in you tackling this job and making it good.
Thanks for sharing your work week Brian from South Yorkshire.
Here in the States. Dot would have forced the owner to have the trailer replaced or repaired. Then, another inspection to see if it was done correctly. If not, then it still would be put out of service. I am always amazed at the conditions of equipment that you are repairing. I live in the rust belt myself. So I actually inspect my equipment. Clean and paint when needed to save from the same situation. You do excellent work, Oliver. I enjoy your videos every Sunday morning with my coffee.
Only if it's used for commercial purposes. DOT will never get near a private trailer used for private hauling. Which includes most farm trailers.
Here in Australia, that trailer would be defected and require repairing, then another inspection to make sure it was safe for use.
@@BrucePierson same here in the States.
@@JHrubythe weight of the trailer itself would qualify as necessary for a cdl to pull it
50k subscriptions Oliver and it will keep climbing when you keep putting out brilliant content like that. Very satisfying watching you transform something that was pretty much destined for scrap back into a usable product. Thanks for the great content and mind yourself.
Looks like the whole chassis needs replacing, great work you’re doing🤪
You did not have much to work with, a lot of rust, very little good metal. You did a great job repairing it and it will last a few more years Always great to watch you work. Hello from West Texas.
Wow, that's one clapped out knackered trailer, Olly. I bet the titanic isn't that rusty. I'm more than confident you'll have it in a safer and more robust condition when it's finished
Had the exact same situation 10 years ago. My farmer mate said I have a project he thought it only needed axles. When I started with the hammer we replaced the chassis from the spring hangers all the way to the beaver tail. Love the channel real farm engineering ,they usually need it last week as well.
I hope your getting the correct payment for all this "extra" work Oliver.
Great job as always
Top job Olli😎👍
Channel deserves more subs💯🚜🚜🚜
That should be going to the scrap yard. Good work, Olly.
Oliver its good to see jobs lined up. Looks like you could use a bigger workshop. Cheers.
We can see you working hard on that job!
That would have to be a borderline “no thanks mate”
I hope you get to charge well for your trouble (half the cost of a new one)
I’d also be putting a disclaimer on the invoice.
Welded your stuffed trailer back together, but it’s still stuffed.
Fun to watch though. Thanks for sharing!
With these larger projects, I think you should consider a larger and easier access building. Perfect reason to take over some more of the farm🤷🏽♂️🤔. You do excellent work. Thanks for taking us along.
Where I used to work we had bottom dump trailers that we used for rock and sand. The company always bought lite weight stuff for payload and the rust would eat right through everything. I feel your pain. I spent many days welding up/patching rotted trailers myself.
A millimetre of steel turns into a centimetre of rust and here you can see it. What an absolute dockyard job.
Wowzers that's a major job, very impressive job young Oliver.
Looking forward to the next installment.
From kiwi land
Breakfast with Ollie.
Nice looking old truck off the side of the building. Maybe we can get a look at her sometime.
Enjoy your weekend
Hey, Oliver. Man, talk about making a silk purse from a sow's ear...this is the job. But its a sign of the times when a customer has to settle for patch fixes to get by, rather than a rebuild.
But you make it look easy to refab, as usual. Looking forward to the next part. Enjoy your weekend. Cheers.
Great vidio Ollie, you'll never be out of work, disclaimer a deffo, I'm sure it will be used and abused now your making them a new trailer🤣
Your the new old skool, great worker/thinker 👍👌👍
You are doing a great job of making a silk purse out of a sow's ear Oliver. It's amazing how badly rotted a 24 year old trailer can get in the U.K. It's going to be interesting to see the gold plated final product. ;) Cheers!
There is smart customers and not so smart customers 🙈Nice job anyway Oliver 👍
Hi Oliver, you can do the impossible straight away, miracles take a bit longer ,lol. We know you'll fix this, as your reputation grows this probably won't be the last bag of rust people bring to you, make sure you charge enough mate. I look forward to seeing part 2, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
Nice one Ollie, looking forward to part two, 👍.
Great content Oliver 👍👍👍.
Wow more neglected kit brought to you to repair! I believe this one even after the well done repairs needs a notation on your invoice that the work done at the direction of the owner did not include all the repair/replacement of all the compromised components and as such significant derating of the capacity is required for safe operation. Determining of the safe capacity is the owner’s responsibility. Best to protect yourself on this one I think.
Nice work so far!
I couldn't have put it _half_ as well as that, Pete.
That one big job. Great video.
Some graft there Olly lad, good old make and mend engineering, great to see the level of care and thought you put in to the re-fabrication, not just plating over crap.....👏👏👍👍
I was expecting the trailer to snap when you turned it over! Quite a challenge there Ollie👍
Bit of bog and she’ll be apples. 🤣 You definitely take on some difficult jobs. Love your work.
Sure didn't have much to work with there buddy, that trailer was about gone, excellent work, great video, keep'um coming..
Hell of a project Oliver. Everybody makes due with what they have. Eventually everybody has better stuff to make due with because of it.
Credit to you Oliver for taking that job on. Personally to me it’s beyond repair with all those rust spots By time you’ve done confident a replacement could have been purchased
Nice work so far. Thanks for making the roads and fields of North Yorkshire a whole lot safer, would be no fun at all to come round a bend to be met by a trailer axle lying in the middle of the road! Your compressor is doing some graft on this job.
Wow, that's a lot of work cutting and prepping for the patches and rebuild. Great job as always. Thanks for sharing.
Absolutely outstanding !!!
"That trailer doesn't get used to its full capacity." I've heard that before!
Thanks for another great video, looking forward to the part 2s :)
Thank you for sharing, another good sunday morning with you and your project 👍👍👍👍
boy what a job. thanks again for your time. see you next week.
I don't know what you're going on about, Oliver, it's just a bit of surface rust! 😮🤣
Mate, your a miracle worker.
Awesome video, thank you Oliver great work
This is certainly a big job and no doubt will be several days work. No worries about having two Part 1's on TH-cam at the same time. You can only do what you can do and waiting on parts on the other job means you can't finish it yet. Better to have a new Part 1 video for the week instead of no video. Looking forward to seeing both Part 2's when that are posted.
Rotton as a pear your a brave man taking that one on Olly
That isn't a trailer, it is a years supply of iron oxide for a small country! What can or worms that is. I know that when you are done with it, Oliver, it will be good for a few more years, but you have my condolences for what it is going to take. Thanks for another excellent video and looking forward to part 2. Hope you are having a peaceful Sunday.
What a nightmare of a job, I've been there. 👍
great video again thanks Oliver
Great work Oliver, you are an ambitious young man! Thanks for posting.
Talk about opening a can of worms🤦♂️ I salute you for your dedication to get it fixed and not just abandoning it. Times are hard and what most people won’t understand is that for some of the hard working farmers this trailer is worth more than anything.
True enough, but surely there must come a point where the cost to repair something is more than the cost to buy something else in better condition.
As Oliver said he would have preferred to replace that centre section of chassis but time and budget constraints. At least the axles would be fitted to a solid base
I cannot figure out how you can charge enough for your exceptional work on this thoroughly trashed piece of kit. Very well done.
The air chisel brings back memories of series 2 landrover chassis back in the 80s lol i can still smell the rust now
Brilliant as always 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇬🇧
Mr Snowball!! Thank you!
What a rusty mess that is good for you for tackling it
Super video. Excellent filming. Thanks
A good thorough job you doing mate, the best you can despite the stingy client... But it makes for great viewing. Looking forward to both part twos. See you next week..
If any one can fix it, you can Oliver. 👍👍
You're a hero!
MoIn! Quite the nasty job... Looking much better at the end of cleanup!
If i was doing this i would be ringing the owner and offering them the option of replacing the rsj as required . When you have their answer ( record the phone call) you should then state that this will never be 100 % and that the repairs are strictly a patch job and as such will carry NO warranty at all . On your invoice repeat this statement to cover your backside. Regards Chris Bailey
Great video 👍 When theirs a "budget" involved the job gets a lot more tougher,as a rust treatment try using phosphoric acid or a mix of citric acid and bicarbonate soda it is stupid cheap and is as good as evaporust😊
34:36 i am sorry for your loss 😢 that looked like a good hammer
34:20 - That reminds me of my Grandad's old hammer that I still use and still going strong after nearly 100 years - 3 new handles and a new head - they don't make thm to last like that these days...🤣
Always a pleasure
OMG Olly! Waiting for part 2 and you’re playing with my emotions 😂😂. Never mind we know this will be a quality watch👍🏻 enjoy your fun
Sorry 🤣 just how things have worked out.
@@snowballengineering well at least next weekend will be a belter
@@snowballengineering Nothing you can do about it with waiting on parts for the other job. Better two Part 1s than no video this week.
Hopefully, when the customer inevitably overloads the trailer and snaps it in half, he doesn't try to blame you!
Luckily Oliver has video evidence of the work he did and a few thousand viewers who would testify to his repair work to cover his bum
Ollie your Earthing issue on your Weld Setup Table ... Magnetic Earth system on to the work item . As you using new Clean stock a lot of the time will work fine for you . 2 Weld tag on your work item especially where you need a start point away from your weld joint to reduce weld stress ... .
I have found other uses for the Mag weld terminations .. which i wont go into here lol 😂 😂😂😂😂
That same thing happened to one of my hammers when I was bashing something. The head broke off. But I was able to re-attach the handle and it's back in use again now, all be it with a shorter handle.
I wouldn't say it's the hydraulic pump that's the issue without a bit of further diagnosis, it still has the pressure to lift more than the swl if it lifting the counterweight, (which is a good sign) is look at replacing the filters first, as it looks more like a reduction in flow.
When the oils warm it won’t lift at all without revving it.
@snowballengineering ye, but it still produces full pressure when it does? Cause it can lift swl +, Usually, when a pump is on the way, it lacks full pressure, ideally you need someone with a flow meter to check it, other this is you'll find glitter in the filter.
Hi My Dear Friend Very Very Good Job ❤❤❤❤❤
I wouldn't mind a big box of rusty lumps like that - I make wargames miniatures and I find delaminated rusty bits make for really great textured rocks for bases, good stuff once it's been in the evapo-rust! :D
Lot of work buddy
Must have really lightened it up when all the rust came off lol. A wonder you had anything left to work with!
May not be the pump. The steering and brakes have priority over the lift and the priority valve may be bypassing. Suction strainer may be clogged. Relief valve may have some crap on the seat or weak spring and is returning to tank.
Holy crap! Hope they’re not gonna haul much more than marshmallows and chicken feather! That damn thing is a widow maker.
Oliver, I feel for you! I personally got burned, BAD, by a customer on a trailer in very similar condition to this one a couple years ago. You can’t possibly repair this trailer for less than the cost of replacing it unless you are willing to take a significant loss on your financial end. I literally guesstimated that I lost between $12,000 to $15,000 in labor and materials from my experience. Be forewarned.
Great work
You will be glad to see the back of that one
When the owner of the low loader saw the film of you and your dad mend your bale trailer a while ago he thought to himself/herself “thats just the firm to sort it out” 😊. Ps, just got to bit in the video where your fork lift was struggling a bit. I saw a 2011 JCB 515-40 telescopic advertised. For those not aware It’s a baby version of what you have. Trouble is they wanted the thick end of £19,000 for it (plus VAT). I think it said just over 3000 hours, hope you fix up the forklift, it’s certainly handy especially the easily accessible control levers.
Outstanding work once again, Oliver, very nice content of the video, you're the man for the job. Well done, mate. Keep the videos coming, Oliver best regards John
Legend has it that Herbst gave up building farm trailers with puff pastry and returned to steel, althought puff pastry is cheaper and more lightweight.