The Grizz 100%. If , against all realty, there happened to be a god, I would rather go to "hell" than live under the fascist thumb of a god that was so petty and ridiculous, let alone did not encourage critical thought... Fuck that guy.
Itreallybelikethat Haha are you serious? You think people who question Bronze Age fairy tales are nerds? What a joke. I’m sure you’re cleaning up at Bible study big guy.
I’ve always wondered: Why would God punish his own creation? He creates us, with all of our flaws, and punishes us for not going against those flaws. Bill Burr once had a joke that went like: If I built a car, and it didn’t run, I wouldn’t just burn it forever. I would troubleshoot and try to fix it.
@@pedrotalons1422 But if he’s all powerful, perfect, all-knowing and flawless he would’ve been able to fix the problem without the whole crucifixion thing. Moreover, he wouldn’t have created beings, things and events that he deems unfavorable…
@@forcedtohaveahandle He may not be such an anthropomorphic force as we expect, for example, nature, it is beautiful, provides fruits and all sorts of good, but also provides earthquakes, tsunamis and you can be mauled by a lion, and it's not like it is unfair, it is just the way it is, maybe the same applies to god, plus we can not even begin to comprehend why god would do the thing it does.
@@pedrotalons1422 Yeah, but nature is real and can easily be proven. The existence of a god-like entity doesn't have any kind of proof. Unless you count ancient man-made books and anecdotes (which you shouldn't). And if it's a force that we can never understand then why bother? One might as well live one's life as if it doesn't exist at all. Although, I understand what you mean. It's not totally impossible.
Love how joe interacts with Krause it’s brilliant . Seen many a Krause debate and it’s usually a one sided debate .. This is more of a chat and Krause even concedes To joe on a few things, shows me just how good joe is with his guests ...
We all are destined to live in hell for eternity. but God loves us too much to let that happen, so he gave us his son as a sacrifice. Through him, if we accept it, we can spend eternity with the Father in Heaven.
Yes it's very apparent. One must be conditioned from a young age. It's the same sick stuff Tran proactivists are trying to do which religious people apparently are disgusted by. So ironic it's comical
all the comments stating how that religion is useful it gave humanity "good morals" that's simply not true there is evidence of early humans before the bible having morals as well, they were more primitive but still had senses of empath etc. Further more civilisations morals change over time, we look back on stuff our on what our ancestors used to think was appropriate and acceptable to do, they have been different through the ages and will change in the future, things we believe is appropriate and acceptable to do now, will certainly be looked back upon as not morally ok in the future. This isn't saying religion serves no purpose at all and that science is ultimately the only correct belief because that isn't true either but religion did not gift us with good morals, especially there are so many different different religions throughout, some that are barely even practiced today(Roman Gods, Aboriginal Australian Dreamtime and Nordic religion) they all have similar yet different morals, showing that morals are something created by humans and we all have a similar vague opinion(don't kill etc.) of them but when is comes down to specifics they differ.
Yeah dude you can’t use science or reasoning when you try to explain something to a religious person. The whole thing is that they have a set of beliefs based on faith. They literally don’t believe scientific discoveries because the Bible already gave them all the answers. We’re talking about people that seriously believe the Earth is a couple thousand years old. They are basically just passionate retards. It’s both adorable and frightening
Thank you krauss! I left Christianity a few years ago. I felt super guilty. I was raised from a baby as a Christian. It was almost like shedding a huge part of me. But once it was gone, I was free. Thank you krauss for letting me know it’s ok to feel like that.
People been denying a higher power even 2500 years ago Krauss is just repeating the same words pharaoh said lol Nothing breathtaking or original here 😂
Love this guy's perspective cuz they match mine to the t. Wow I love realizations n then hearing others confirm it. Trip! Although Connor sense with enuff wisdom ayyyyy
I literally cried watching this. @4:37 Mr Krauss has no idea how big of a point this is. Thank your lucky stars if you never had the image cemented into your young brain, of the fire that can't be quenched, the gnashing of teeth and the worm that never dies.
Doesn't he?😂 and you are? What I love are people who have the courage to stand for what they believe even if it goes against the tide of belief in their country. Not long from now Americans will find the same comfort in science and philosophy. Because that will be the consensus view. Right now we're at the change point point. The church will not let go easily. There's too much power and far too much wealth at stake
@@YourLocalRealist No it isn’t. It’s pretty simple. There’s no evidence to support the claims of our world religions. That’s it. Nothing more needs to be said about it.
@@YourLocalRealist I guarantee I’ve done more research than you. There is no extra biblical evidence. There are only stories. You don’t know ANY claims Jesus ever made genius. The gospels are written by people who never knew him. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Science is the study of nature. It has nothing to do with the philosophical concept of God. The only problem is when people believe in literal creationism it's hard to reconcile with science.
Well, you have the Jews who believe in the God of Abraham, you have Christians who believe in the God of Abraham, you have Muslims, who believe in the God of Abraham, and then you have the Hindu religions who when I talk to them they believe in Bramah who they say is the exact same God as the God of Abraham, and claim Jesus was a Hindu. soooo... It isn't Zeus.
@@RICHIEV333 No, the Hindus do not believe Brahman is the God of Abraham. I'm guessing a Christian Minister told you that LOL. Brahman is one of 3 Gods in Hinduism, and not even the original formless God of creation.
@@RICHIEV333 This notion of the Islamic god and the Christian god being equivalent is utter nonsense. Yes, these are Abrahamic religions by definition, but the attributes of these gods are vastly different.
Science doesn't explain the meaning of life. It's good at explaining the what, how and when but it can't explain why. That's where religion comes in. Humans are hard-wired to have some kind of belief system. Being religious or spiritual doesn't mean not valuing science. It's wrong to deny scientific learning for the sake of one's personal beliefs, but that doesn't mean religion in itself is a bad thing.
Science is very subjective. I’m not religious, but at the end of the day scientists are people who are doing their job. People means opinions and opinions means subjective. Job means money and money means looser morals. I’m not saying science is never objective, but it’s also not always objective.
@@Thanksvars there's literally evidence of Christ's existence, death and resurrection. Furthermore, there is literally evidence of miracles today in the thousands (that we know of, which are documented and proven by non Christian sources). Only faith that has miracles... it's not hard to understand that Christ is the saviour. You can choose to reject it, it doesn't make Him or his love for us go away. Most of you have done maybe 10minutes of research online cause you may have had some interest and otherwise rely on your own logic/mind to conclude God's non existence, sadly you are 1 human with finite knowledge and wisdom, to not do proper research (years and years) is doing a disservice to yourself my friend. God bless.
Wow I just had this conversation like 15 mins ago and so was on JRE religious clips. I’m thankful I am on a level of consciousness as this very educated man. I’m only 23
You have a lot more to learn your a baby at 23. At 23 I was an atheist and hated God. Now Christ and God are everything to me. Thank you Lord Jesus Christ for everything great in my life.
Jesus died on the cross for our sins. This is the good news of the gospel! God loved us so much that he gave his only Son who was perfect, just to take the punishment for our sins. Praise God for this blessing we all have!
i have had this conversation way to many times, my person opinion is that the bible or anything similar was a recount, an average metaphoric guide line like "hey you will go through many thing much like these instances, and this is a summary of the BETTER choices from thousands of people who have lived and died working out what choice is better" Then the idea of selfishness and class come about and those who where intelligent enough, used it to subtely control the people. Also the idea of teaching it to children is Terrible! all the blood and sacrifice and crusifiction.. i remember being inschool and being like "WTF" i can't explain and i don't want to explain the things a child acts upon after hearing this like that, especially the repenting or anything the likewise.
i thank the Lord every day, I was taught about Christ and His love for us. I would be lost like many people today otherwise to lust and sex before marriage, gambling, greed, obsession with power, hate, lies, pride and envy to name a few. What's terrible is thinking you know everything and making a conclusion that Jesus/God is not real... when science agrees He was a real person, who got crucified then there are 500 eye witnesses of his resurrection along with multiple Kings that were non Christian also confirming this. Yet you still don't believe. Even if Jesus were to appear to you right now and show you his holes in his hands and feet, most people today probably will still not believe. It's your pride unfortunately holding you back and closing your heart and mind. Do more research please, it's all there, and don't get me started on all the current day miracles like the apparition of Mary our Mother at a Church in Zaitoun, Cairo as one of many examples. God Bless.
@@surr3al756 Eastern Religions are more into seeking thn dictating your life, it is philosophical and spiritual. Religion like Bhuddhism can progress with time cuz thy accept the change.
i always thought religion was made to control people. like honestly, idk if there is a god or not, but i dont think worshipping it helps as shown by history. not to mention how it has been used to assemble armies and to justify violence. not saying everything that came out of it was bad, not not all good either. feel free to debate
That’s definitely why religion was made, to get primitive people moving like robots, more people have been killed in the name of god than for any other reason
God belief was created to explain the unknown. “Why does the sun go away at night?” The sun god goes to rest. “Why does the river flood and kill our crops?” The River gods were angry with our village. Then they based religions around these stories to try and appease those gods, and control their society. So yeah, you’re absolutely right.
That is true, Science came out of the bible, and Scientist didn't even read it cause the bible already said the earth was round way before Galileo and Christopher colombus, but they had no clue until thousands of years later, How? Because the bible is inspired by god
th-cam.com/video/IF9Xn5m2OGg/w-d-xo.html here you go. Old video of Joe debating a brainwashed christian after doing a noahs ark joke. Dude comes in to debate Joe somewhere around 3 min
I am a Christian and would love to have a discussion with Joe! He would be stumped and would be put to dust, because the Bible itself is proof that everyone and everything was created by God and none of us would be living if it weren't for God. I mean, just look around you! Nature speaks for itself that God created it!! If only everybody could get this into their empty heads
Evolution still cannot be explained from the very start. in the beginning there was nothing, then out of nothing the big bang. how is that explanation for life, the stars, and the planets. it isn't, science tells us that you cant get something out of nothing. I respect everyone's one views, to each there own. I am going to believe in something so in case I am right at least I get to go to heaven. LOL and if I am wrong ill be a tree or something. better than believing in nothing and going to hell or turning into a tree. LOL logic seems sound to me
Science doesn't say that there was nothing before something. We don't currently know that the universe began. Though there are hypotheses... Also, what if you believe in the _wrong_ heaven and hell? And go to a worse hell as a result? _My_ God sends disbelievers to the worst hell- so why don't you believe in my God?
Evolution only deals with biological changes in organisms over time. It is not related to nor required to explain cosmology. Science doesn't tell you that we came from nothing, religion does (just read Genesis), but religious people will tell you that to make you lose trust in the scientific community so that they can further manipulate you. Also I wouldn't just believe for the sake of it, I'd rather learn and question my beliefs and then come to a conclusion. Starting with question 1, why would an all-loving God sent people to be eternally tortured for the rest of their existence?
I just lost a ton of respect for joe Rogan. You don’t have to believe in a deity but let Lawrence Krause talk about god and the Big Bang like it’s an objective fact is disappointing when Iv see joe push back on god and religion not being objectively true. Have the same energy. They’re literally taking about the same thing.
Why should Joee push back on the big bang? 60 years ago, someone mughtve said, "you should push back on evolution, its. Just a theory." But the evidence piled up, and youd look like an idiot if you did that now. Maybe 5 years from now there'll be so much evidence for the big bang he'd look like an ignoramus. Thats basically the difference between science and religion. Science is a body of knowledge that grows over time. Religion is a set of beliefs that shrink and become ridiculous over time.
@@jessemiller3108 The Big Bang is as meaningfully a fact as any fact about reality can be, in that it corresponds to reality. "Facts" are always subject to revision in the light of contrary evidence. Until we find such evidence, it's a fact.
@@Jay_in_Japan I believe in the Big Bang theory, don't get me wrong. It makes sense. I just hold a high standard when I'm discussing theory over fact. Even if the theory makes absolute sense
Sorry for my ignorance on the subject because I am completely uneducated on this but how do we know evolution happened? And is it possible that people confuse evolution and adapting? Imo humans adapted to the changes in the world in order to live in it and if evolution is real then why don’t we see it in animals and people now? I’m genuinely curious about this if someone could explain it to me
We dont know, anyone who claims to know is arrogant , unless you have had a nde ( but that's still not evidence it's your brain ) If a dmt trip feels realer then this life , then how do we know that right how isnt the trip ? If that makes any sense .
If given the choice, I'd rather know instead of believe. Out of humble honesty, I admitted I could be wrong about believing in God, and believing is not the same as knowing. Unfortunately many Christians take this humble honesty as an attack. I'm not saying I know it's false, I'm saying I could be wrong in thinking it's true, and that I actually don't know. It'd be prideful of me to say "because I believe and want this to be real, that means I'm automatically right and I can't possabily be wrong". Apparently that humble honest doubt is not bibical to many in my evangelical church.
@@shaereub4450 The legal orientation of western theology has hurt so many. From teaching that God had to kill his son, to God will endlessly torture anyone who doesn’t love him back. Coming from an orthodox perspective, Evangelical theology is a walking contradiction and frankly blasphemous. In the orthodox tradition God is other centered, self sacrificial love. God IS relationship, and relationship isn’t about “getting it right”. It’s about being in trusting union. David Bentley Hart is a good intellect on this that I think you’d like judging by your sincerity. Much love.
@@Jordan-hz1wr That isn’t biblical. You have just put your own wants and morals onto your god. The god of the Bible is not loving. He’s pretty monstrous.
Krauss is way too sure of himself. I don't personally believe in a biblical god, but I do think the universe holds many great mysteries that get lost in the debate between Atheism and Religion. To me, "god" is something at once more elegant and confounding than an old man in the sky.
A5ids a few years ago I was conflicted between being an atheist or agnostic and I reasoned and reasoned with myself and decided to just be agnostic. Which simply means I do not know. I most likely believe nothing happens after we die, I think our conciousness ceases after we die but really we just don't know. My idea of God has always been an unconscious being or just the balance of things. It's a peaceful view
Aussiemma 8 Most atheists are agnostic. If you are not convinced a deity exists then you are an atheist. If you are not willing to claim that you know one doesn’t exist for a fact then you are agnostic. Gnosticism is about knowledge. Theism is about belief. Everyone is both agnostic/gnostic and atheist/theist.
Insofar as "God" is an unfalsifiable theory, and one that doesn't even make good predictions about the universe, we can say that it doesn't exist. It's a bad theory
I can't get by the fact this dude looks exactly like that creep that was hitting on Jodie Foster in Silence of the Lambs. ... talking about child abuse. ......... keep this dude FAR AWAY for any kids, please.
When you see someone so hateful of religion especially Christianity, all you have to do is check the early life section of their Wikipedia page. Every time.
Probably molested, raped or abused by a self proclaimed “person of god” or “true believer”. Most efficient way to lose faith in organized religion known to man.
@monster17368 so you hate Jesus? A person who loved everyone he met? A person who wished and hoped nothing but the best for everyone he met? A person who tried helping everyone he could, given that there was an opportunity for him to? Sounds logical to me😃
Would love to see this guy debate Frank Turek. They’re mixing their subjective views of religion without confronting objective morals that you can’t deny as a human being. I.e why is it wrong to murder? Why rape is wrong? Why it’s wrong to steal? Joe stop hiding from other qualified apologists that can dismantle this clown.
Dude christopher hitches destroyed frank in Multiple debates and I believe lawrence kruass has debated him on debate panels .......the fact u think we need a ancient book to teach us morals is actually pathetic.......people prior to moses and the ten commandments didn't need a stone to teach them not to rape or murder 🤣 .. sure it was more barbaric times but overall people weren't going around acting like animals they had some sense of morality after all were only talking about 3000 years ago humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years.
God is so good and merciful he allows us all free will to worship him or turn away from him. The constitution was written based on the principles and teachings found in the Bible which is what made it great and stand the rest of time. Many separatist risked their lives fleeing from religious persecutions in the old word and formed colonies here to give us the freedom to worship how we want. That should never go unnoticed or mocked.
@@timdeathly He does though,and loves us,doesn't want to push himself on us,but has hell just in case we don't love him back, to be tortured forever,how's that not love ?
well, that’s just not true, is it?. Jesus not once talks about hell, not ones. point me at any passage in the 4 gospells where he speaks of it? doesnt exist
Why not question the genocide and atrocities in your old disgusting book. Slavery, genocide, selling of daughters, subjugation of women etc... you failed to comment on the other stuff they brought up
What if science and faith can coexist? Please remember that the big bang and evolution are both theories, and religion is not faith. Faith in God is a personal relationship. You have a choice to believe or not. But public schools dont teach faith. But they do teach science and scientific theories.
Absolutely not. Faith is believing something without a good reason, otherwise you'd present a good reason. Science is a repeatable, demonstrable, and verifiable paradigm. There's no comparison, and reasonable people shouldn't dabble in faith, only beliefs with demonstrability. Also the big bang and evolution are scientific theories, not the colloquial definition of a theory. Look up the definition.
The Big Bang and evolution are _scientific_ theories. Models of reality which correspond extremely strongly with reality. Unlike the theory of "God". What testable predictions of reality does the theory of God make? The universe looks precisely like what you would expect if there was no God, no Creator, but is governed by naturalistic principles. Naturalism makes predictions about reality, and those predictions correspond to reality.
always amazes me who people of such intellect can be so wrong about God and religion. im not even mad at him because you can tel by his body language that he is confused about the subject and Joe is simply too nice to confront him head on. we are much more blind than we think and cold hearted intelligence can lead to terrible places
Obviously you can’t explain this comment. They aren’t wrong about god or religion. Everyone thinks that THEY know about religion and others don’t. The biggest problem with Christianity, aside from the fact that there is no evidence to support it, is that the Bible is full of contradictions and can be interpreted to mean anything you want it to mean.
It always amazes me how religious people like you are so self assured when y'all have no proof for anything you say when science is constantly proving and disproving itself. "Cold hearted intelligence" is a made up phrase. To be able to find out new things , you need to be ready to have everything you know to be disproved.
If you're going to question religion, also question Atheism. As a Christian, if I didn't question religion as a whole, I'd be polytheist, an omnist, or an Atheist, but definitely not a Christian, not a Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist, Islamic, ect. Saying that because someone believes in God, a god or gods, a flying spaghetti monster, ect. is stupid and makes you just as stupid. When going into a debate or posting a YT comment challenging someone's beliefs/religion, assume the person has solid reasons as for why they believe something. When you don't do this, you get made a fool of on the debate stage or in the comments section--Christian, Atheist, or whatever, it doesn't matter. There are many people who convert to religions, namely Christianity and Islam, for varying reasons. Unsatisfactory answers for anomalies and events from science, the evil or perceived evil they see in the world or the religious world they left, and so on. Calling people stupid or belittling them because they're not an Atheist or whatever is a bullying tactic and will only ingrain what they believe to be true. The only people this works on are the weak-minded individuals--with exceptions of course. Religion does the same to people as well, not just Atheism. You want to convert people? Have honest conversations free of name calling, give evidence for your beliefs and why theirs are perhaps wrong, but never bully people into submission. Moving on... The Fundamentalist Christians who threatened people for thinking on their own, or even proposing that women can wear.... jeans *GASP*, have largely died off--thank God--or have backed away into their "safe place"--the congregation of 10 people they join on Sunday to hear some closed-minded pastor confirm their extrabiblical and BS beliefs (let me also state that many Christians follow rules that are not in the Bible, so when attacking us, please keep this in mind). If you're an Atheist wanting to prove religion is a farce and an outdated leftover from our past, then stop exclusively (or seemingly so) attacking Christens and move on to all the other mainline religions. "Christians don't like gays." Islam slaughters gays. "Christians have ridiculous beliefs." So has science, also, Hindu religious texts say the world is held up by for elephants on the back of a giant turtle. "Christians don't believe women are equal to men." First off, most do, but we do believe in gender roles (as to the extent, that's up for debate); second, if you're gonna attack Christians over this, also attack Islam and Buddhism. I am a Christians because A) that's how I was raised, B) I have thought for myself and come to my own conclusion that God is real, C) I find no other religion or set of beliefs to be as true as those that God has spoken to us through His word. I plan on teaching my kids about God when I have a family. If my kids question Christianity, and they should, I'll talk with them and answer their questions to the best of my ability as any good parent should. If my kids leave the faith when they're older I will still love them and pray they return to it.
(CONTINUED) "You're limiting the child's beliefs, leaving them unfree to explore other options." And you are doing the same by limiting them to one set of beliefs as well. If raising a child in a religion is indoctrination, can the same not be said for raising a child as an Atheist? "I stand with science." As do I in most cases, but the theories, yes theories, for how everything as we know it came about are changing and leave much to be desired. Just to clear up any confusion, I do not think Atheists, Islamists, Jews, Hindus, etc. are stupid for believing what they believe. You're only stupid for not questioning what you believe. You could be right, you also might not be. But you will never know because you never asked. But I do think all of them are wrong.
You may agree you may disagree. But thank you for reading and I hope I at least shed some light on things.
from what i see in my religoous friends, others ive talked and in debates, many dont seem to grasp or understand what science is and how it works. no matter how i try to explain that science isnt capital T truth but instead a model/models of the best current data, evidence and predictability which changes with the more data we get...they still view it as thinking science is something akin to proclaiming absolute truth. i see this when almost always they bring up how "science has been wrong before" & try to show how that is supposed to invalidate the scientific method or whole theories like evolution a re wrong. even if our understanding of evolution gets turned on its head 50yrs from now, the current model is the best and only credible model we have now to teach.
bobkilla430 This is one of the biggest problems with some religious people, and it's why getting rid of extreme religious thinking will be near impossible. They simply have never thought scientifically and just cannot grasp the concepts in any way. And to be frank, don't want to...
bobkilla430 This is one of the biggest problems with some religious people, and it's why getting rid of extreme religious thinking will be near impossible. They simply have never thought scientifically and just cannot grasp the concepts in any way. And to be frank, don't want to...
The thing I don’t understand is why Joe Rogan which look like a very smart and not coward guy, will not invite the most renowned Christian apologists and theologians and just rant by himself on his atheist echo chamber. Where are the William Lane Craig, Frank Turek, Mike Licona, JP Moreland, Braxton Hunter, etc, etc?
It's cos those guys suck. Craig is the only decent one. But even he doesn't fully understand the things he debates- like the Big Bang model of the universe.
We see what materialism have done to our society. Depression, anxiety, Jealous, suicide and death. Jesus is the way, the truth and the light. Just knock and he will reveal himself to you.
@@magicdinho107 Naw. Not even an opinion. It's fact. You want to believe in a father figure hiding out in the sky, that's your right, but don't force people to think the same way. Because at the end of the day, you have absolutely no evidence of a god.
I hate how for the longest time, it's always been religion vs science. The 2 idealologies actually compliment each other greatly. They're not that damn seperate. It's all about how you teach the concept of spirituality that really matters. There are SO many "christians" out there that dont reflect the title at all. People are even teaching the bible wrong. The bible never negates science. Science only explains Gods craft. However, spirituality teaches the meaning behind it. The 2 idealologies do MERGE
They do not compliment each other at all. Science demands evidence and reason. Religion demands faith and uncritical thinking. The Bible makes several claims that are refuted by science. And as science explains more and more of our world, the less need there is for people to invoke god as a reason for things. The concept of spirituality has nothing to do with it. It’s about facts and evidence.
@@roems6396 science just explains Gods mysteries. You wouldn’t have a lot of science today if it wasn’t for spirituality. God isn’t an excuse to fill in the blanks of science. Science is just the reasoning behind vast Gods blueprint. Also, there aren’t too many claims in the Bible the science refutes spirituality because if you’ve ever picked up a Bible, you’d know it’s not trying to explain the world around us. The Bible strengthens peoples morality, it rarely mentions anything scientific. So saying that science ‘refutes’ spirituality is kinda weird since scientific claims aren’t even rlly mentioned.
@@Fireoncityyrevelations was probaldy written by the Catholic Church, they canonized the Bible on the 4th century, religion is in the control business, if you tell people they will endure eternal suffering if they don’t believe than they probably will believe… especially if they are illiterate peasants who don’t know what we do, I believe in god but how are you so sure the Bible with its many translations is the PERFECT word of god?
Lol in the bible it says in the beginning there was nothing than god created the universe. our greatest minds have come up with there was nothing at the beginning than a explosion happend and everything came to be.......awesome we really have come along way
Science never said there was nothing in the beginning, then the Big Bang happened. Science simply discovered that there was a Big Bang very near the beginning, but we have no idea what was before that (I say 'before', but a better word would be 'outside', since time couldn't have started until space started expanding, because time is tied to space). So it is still possible that there was a 'god', just that there is no evidence for that.
@Greg McFarland String Theory is the most elegant theory that unifies the uncertain and tumultuous nature of Quantum Mechanics with the certain and definite nature of General Relativity, it's the closest we've gotten to a theory of everything, 1 single beautiful theory which can reconcile all the 4 fundamental forces of the universe, dead end? Not just yet. May I ask you a question? Are you a physicist yourself?
@@jesusgeronimo312 Good news! My comment was from a year ago and now I'm a Christian! I converted out of atheism when I realized the overwhelming futility of atheism. Atheism is just a spicier version of nihilism. Me personally I'd rather believe that life has meaning and be happy than believe that life is meaningless and be depressed.
@@killuafans1403 Haha great question! when I started dating this christian girl, and she was like a super christian. Prays every morning when she wakes up and every night before she goes to sleep, reads passages, goes to Bible study, you get the idea. I wanted to make her happy so I started doing the things that she did, little by little, day by day, I took more and more steps closer to Jesus. She guided me through the maze of soul searching. I might not be with her anymore, but I will always be grateful for her.
@Hummer’s Revenge It includes people who choose hell. Come to what conclusion you want with your assumption. But to answer with the original: It includes people. God offers a free gift. Praying for the best.
@Hummer’s Revenge I understand where you're coming from and respect it. But I could only agree if Truth was flexible. The truth is the truth because it's the truth. I know that's hours of discussion right there but I hope you consider that there can only be one truth. I believe Jesus Christ sacrificed Himself on our behalf so we don't have to pay the penalty of our sin. But even though I don't believe I'm wrong in my convictions, if I was, it doesn't make the truth of everything different. If the truth was nothingness then that would be the truth whether I believed it or not. My truth and your truth is not the truth. There is only The Truth. I appreciate the dialogue.
Your username is an apt representation of the psychological conclusion of material reductionism, which is the principle of modern, empirical science. That is what, in my understanding, the writer of the original comment was implying.
If you understood the scientific method then you'd also understand how you find out such things. Btw religious people sure seem to know a lot about what happened 2000 years ago even tho it's written down decades ago after the fact by 3rd party witnesses who's heard rumors and stories going from ear to ear over decades, but sure....it sounds so plausible we don't even have to use critical thinking when someone claims to have walked on water or rose from the dead. Why did Jesus come to illiterate Middle East and not in China where people could already read and write?
the elephant in the room is not evidence it’s it’s morality and accountability People are not on a truth quest their own happiness quest and they’re just going to believe whatever makes them happy
Science is a religion too. They said covid only spreads via droplets and we should stay 5 feet apart. We took that on faith and a lot, I mean A LOT, of people died.
This guy with the glasses just made Himself equal with a sheep and other primative animals lol which is totally understandable since evolution leaves them no other explanation than that!
@@Jay_in_Japan No there isn't, well depending on which classification of evolution you speak of. And nothing is greater evidence then creation being evidence of a Creator.
this guy will drill atheism into a child which makes him a hypocrite, scientific extremism...hes mind is in a box or cube like most but probably very intelligent in other ways
The very thing their presupposing cannot comport with their professed worldview. Atheism cannot account for the basic preconditions of intelligibility. Only the Christian worldview can give us the necessary preconditions for knowledge. Their dependent upon Jesus this entire conversation...
You’re presupposing that Jesus has anything to do with the beginning of humanity. You’re an atheist to all other gods except one, some of which predate Jesus so how does he have anything to do with the preconditions for knowledge when Egypt had different religious beliefs and knew how to do some things we still can’t figure out how they did with the tools they had
You are mistaken ltltraffic. He welcomes the questioning of evolution. So that after the questioning he could bore you for months with the seemingly endless amount of evidence that supports it. And of course he is questioning religion, he is a scientist, they question everything.
7:27 I wonder if Krauss is so angry because he's trapped so deeply in the closet that he can't get out from under last year's forgotten Christmas presents...lol
With pleasure. 1) There are Christians that believe in the big bang and in evolution. He needs to be aware that there are Christians along the spectrum that are not threatened by these two things. I personally am an agnostic when it comes to evolution--partly because I don't know enough and partly because I have yet to come across an empirical study that shows that species can form into other species. 2) "They think somehow not believing in God makes you a bad person." No. That's awful theology and a strawman. Christians understand that they are bad and they believe in God. It is only by the grace of God--and not by merit--that they can have a relationship with God. 3) Why is he quoting Steven Weinberg? Is he some kind of ethical philosopher? Does he have expertise on moral issues? Just because someone is a scientist, does not make that person an expert on morality. Scientists did, after all, create chemical weapons that are being used on people in the Middle East today. 4) The worldviews were not created by "illiterate" peasants. If they were illiterate, they wouldn't have been able to write. 5) How does discovering billion galaxies help the human civilization? The 20th century was more advanced in science and technology than any other period in the history of human civilization but didn't help human beings much in curing us of our savagery. Proof? Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, etc. I would like to know how an "ought" can be derived from a "what". 6) Connected to 5): He says why should we be guided by these iron age worldviews. I wanna ask him: why should we be guided by your scientist worldviews? 7) Krauss says that we shouldn't educate our kids on religion. Is he gonna be consistent and say that he doesn't educate his kids on his scientism? 8) Just because animals exhibit homosexual behavior does not make it natural for a human being. Lions eat their young. Does this make infanticide or cannibalism "right" or "natural"? There are certain species of black widows that kill their mates when they finish copulating. Is this is how women should act after they've been seeded? 9) I am curious. How is saying homosexuality is wrong or unnatural misunderstanding biology? I am seriously curious about that. 10) This goes for Joe: the New Testament was NOT created by Constantine. The New Testament--the different gospels and epistles--was transmitted orally in the 1st century and was eventually enscripturated and mass produced and sent out to different congregations. On top of that, Constantine had NOTHING to do with the canonization of Scripture because that didn't occur at the Council of Nicaea, which many people mistakenly believe. I love Joe and his show, but good grief man--do your homework. 11) The reason why Christians don't do those things anymore is not because we don't read it literally, it's because that part of the Old Testament is descriptive and not prescriptive. We can have a debate the ethical issues found in the Old Testament but if you're really interested, then read the work of an expert. For example, read Paul Copan's book "Is God a Moral Monster?". 12) "We like to see ourselves as good people" These people are as clueless as Krauss is when it comes to Christianity. 13) Just as heaven is described in figurative terms (streets of gold, for example), hell is as well. It is a caricature to say that God "tortures" people He doesn't like for the rest of eternity.
Very ignorant comment. It’s good to question everything even religion. Just bc not everyone is Christian doesnt mean they’re bad people. Stick to your day job bc you don’t know any more than he does lol
El Rilla You are only talking about a small portion of Christianity. The majority do refuse to believe in scientifically demonstrated facts like evolution. Are you seriously equating teaching kids that they will be tortured in hell with teaching kids the scientific method? A lot of your criticism is way off base. If what they’re saying doesn’t apply to you then ignore it. But if you think it doesn’t apply to a vast amount of Christians, then you are fooling yourself.
There is proof. If you believe actually science is an opinion then the universe must be glued together by opinions. Out of all things we humans have done, science is the one thing saying "what can I understand that isn't just in my head". Its trying to figure out what is objectively true. If you choose to ignore the piles evidence we have then you're just choosing ignorance
ALWAYS question anyone and everyone that tries to affect you with their beliefs. ALWAYS. It's true. People that do not question religion are SAD.
Hugh Mungus but r u sure?
The Grizz 100%. If , against all realty, there happened to be a god, I would rather go to "hell" than live under the fascist thumb of a god that was so petty and ridiculous, let alone did not encourage critical thought... Fuck that guy.
The Spastic Mind Of A Stoned Guy okay but have you ever had a gf you nerd
Itreallybelikethat
Haha are you serious? You think people who question Bronze Age fairy tales are nerds? What a joke. I’m sure you’re cleaning up at Bible study big guy.
Ro Ems ever heard of a joke? It’s not a dick so don’t take it so hard I bet you look like Lawrence
"There's some biological purpose to it" - Lawrence (talking about homosexuality) "decorating" - Joe Rogan 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed". Friedrich Nietzsche
Coming from Nietzsche that's pretty ironic 🤣
@@Quinton44 elaborate
The guy had issues, no question, but it’s a good quote
@@topdog5252 Most if not everyone has issues tho but yeah
@@forcedtohaveahandle haha. True. Most people won’t disturb your teenage brain like he’s ideas can though
I’ve always wondered: Why would God punish his own creation? He creates us, with all of our flaws, and punishes us for not going against those flaws.
Bill Burr once had a joke that went like: If I built a car, and it didn’t run, I wouldn’t just burn it forever. I would troubleshoot and try to fix it.
He kinda did that with the whole jesus died for our sins thing.
@@pedrotalons1422 But if he’s all powerful, perfect, all-knowing and flawless he would’ve been able to fix the problem without the whole crucifixion thing. Moreover, he wouldn’t have created beings, things and events that he deems unfavorable…
@@pedrotalons1422 Unless this so-called god is not perfect and all-knowing and such, but if that’s the case why call him god?
@@forcedtohaveahandle He may not be such an anthropomorphic force as we expect, for example, nature, it is beautiful, provides fruits and all sorts of good, but also provides earthquakes, tsunamis and you can be mauled by a lion, and it's not like it is unfair, it is just the way it is, maybe the same applies to god, plus we can not even begin to comprehend why god would do the thing it does.
@@pedrotalons1422 Yeah, but nature is real and can easily be proven. The existence of a god-like entity doesn't have any kind of proof. Unless you count ancient man-made books and anecdotes (which you shouldn't). And if it's a force that we can never understand then why bother? One might as well live one's life as if it doesn't exist at all. Although, I understand what you mean. It's not totally impossible.
Love how joe interacts with Krause it’s brilliant .
Seen many a Krause debate and it’s usually a one sided debate ..
This is more of a chat and Krause even concedes To joe on a few things, shows me just how good joe is with his guests ...
I used to question God when I was younger but was always told I'll live in hell for eternity if I wasn't religious
We all are destined to live in hell for eternity. but God loves us too much to let that happen, so he gave us his son as a sacrifice. Through him, if we accept it, we can spend eternity with the Father in Heaven.
Well what they told you is true! Please don't forsake Christianity!
@@quallington Coercion
@@quallingtonno it's not. God ain't real
That's how they keep children, and gullible adults in line. That's all religion is good for, empty assertions and threats.
it's like asking what vegans thinks of eating meat...
One doesn't need to observe any religion in order to believe in the concept of a "God".
Yes it's very apparent. One must be conditioned from a young age. It's the same sick stuff Tran proactivists are trying to do which religious people apparently are disgusted by. So ironic it's comical
all the comments stating how that religion is useful it gave humanity "good morals" that's simply not true there is evidence of early humans before the bible having morals as well, they were more primitive but still had senses of empath etc. Further more civilisations morals change over time, we look back on stuff our on what our ancestors used to think was appropriate and acceptable to do, they have been different through the ages and will change in the future, things we believe is appropriate and acceptable to do now, will certainly be looked back upon as not morally ok in the future. This isn't saying religion serves no purpose at all and that science is ultimately the only correct belief because that isn't true either but religion did not gift us with good morals, especially there are so many different different religions throughout, some that are barely even practiced today(Roman Gods, Aboriginal Australian Dreamtime and Nordic religion) they all have similar yet different morals, showing that morals are something created by humans and we all have a similar vague opinion(don't kill etc.) of them but when is comes down to specifics they differ.
Bro primitive eras aren’t real. Human beings have always been Sophisticated and modern to a point
Yeah dude you can’t use science or reasoning when you try to explain something to a religious person. The whole thing is that they have a set of beliefs based on faith. They literally don’t believe scientific discoveries because the Bible already gave them all the answers. We’re talking about people that seriously believe the Earth is a couple thousand years old. They are basically just passionate retards. It’s both adorable and frightening
Thank you krauss! I left Christianity a few years ago. I felt super guilty. I was raised from a baby as a Christian. It was almost like shedding a huge part of me. But once it was gone, I was free. Thank you krauss for letting me know it’s ok to feel like that.
Christianity is the only way to God and heaven. Otherwise - you're choosing to go to hell
Free to do what exactly? You don’t seem free if you need another human to validate your existence.
@@jennayoder9072there is no hell tho. There is nothing when you die, much like before you were born
@@Telamonianfree to live. Humans are stuck under religion that isn’t real
@@kennypowers1945there is just as much proof of that as there is to an afterlife. We simply don’t know.
religions using religion to justify itself. the blind leading the blind
Exactly, they think the Bible is evidence for the bible being 100 percent accurate 😂, pretty irrational if you ask me 😂
Is there a full version of this ?
Yes, search for the Joe Rogan Experience on Spotify. This is from episode 938
I've never heard so many truth bombs in such a short clip. Lawrence Krauss is the man!
People been denying a higher power even 2500 years ago
Krauss is just repeating the same words pharaoh said lol
Nothing breathtaking or original here 😂
@@harambey Says an idiot
@@harambey who said it has to be original or breathtaking to be right? 😐
From the man who believes something came out of nothing lol ;)
@@bastonero7572 very ironic eh? Cmon man you know given enough time things just coalesce together with “the appearance of design”
This needs more views
Love this guy's perspective cuz they match mine to the t. Wow I love realizations n then hearing others confirm it. Trip! Although Connor sense with enuff wisdom ayyyyy
tbh that was a nice cut at the end tip.
Please Joe, bring David Berliski to the show. Please.
a psuedoscientist.
That was a great rant!
Why does this still only have 55k views????
I've never believed in the invisible man in the sky story, and never will
Do some research I think. That’s an outdated lazy theory or belief. Question everything and everybody. That’s all.
you’ll regret your choices in the afterlife.
Good for you buddy, so happy that you felt the need to share that.
I literally cried watching this. @4:37 Mr Krauss has no idea how big of a point this is. Thank your lucky stars if you never had the image cemented into your young brain, of the fire that can't be quenched, the gnashing of teeth and the worm that never dies.
Doesn't he?😂 and you are?
What I love are people who have the courage to stand for what they believe even if it goes against the tide of belief in their country. Not long from now Americans will find the same comfort in science and philosophy. Because that will be the consensus view. Right now we're at the change point point. The church will not let go easily. There's too much power and far too much wealth at stake
Pedophile church
reasons i love joe rogan :
1. his mutual discussions on religion and evolution
2. *venison*
Forgot the GOD molecule
His knowledge on religion is sophomoric and ignorant. Gary Habermas would be an interesting guest for him.
@@YourLocalRealist
No it isn’t. It’s pretty simple. There’s no evidence to support the claims of our world religions. That’s it. Nothing more needs to be said about it.
@@roems6396 There’s quite a bit historical evidence for Jesus and the claims he made. Put aside your emotions and do some research.
@@YourLocalRealist
I guarantee I’ve done more research than you. There is no extra biblical evidence. There are only stories. You don’t know ANY claims Jesus ever made genius. The gospels are written by people who never knew him. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
I like this guy, he's right
Science is the study of nature. It has nothing to do with the philosophical concept of God. The only problem is when people believe in literal creationism it's hard to reconcile with science.
Love this comment.
Wait which god are we talking about? lmfao
Exactly
Well, you have the Jews who believe in the God of Abraham, you have Christians who believe in the God of Abraham, you have Muslims, who believe in the God of Abraham, and then you have the Hindu religions who when I talk to them they believe in Bramah who they say is the exact same God as the God of Abraham, and claim Jesus was a Hindu. soooo... It isn't Zeus.
@@RICHIEV333 No, the Hindus do not believe Brahman is the God of Abraham. I'm guessing a Christian Minister told you that LOL. Brahman is one of 3 Gods in Hinduism, and not even the original formless God of creation.
@@RICHIEV333 This notion of the Islamic god and the Christian god being equivalent is utter nonsense. Yes, these are Abrahamic religions by definition, but the attributes of these gods are vastly different.
@Abdirahman Idris It's only similar because Islam blatantly plagiarizes Judaism and Christianity.
This was bliss to hear someone say
Everyone connects to their spirituality differently there is no one way to connect with it
Religion explains nothing. Science can explain everything.
@H H uhm, it's the opposite. Science depends on evidence to explain anything 🤦♂️
@Donny Hayden You wouldn't be typing this if it were not for science.
Science doesn't explain the meaning of life. It's good at explaining the what, how and when but it can't explain why. That's where religion comes in. Humans are hard-wired to have some kind of belief system. Being religious or spiritual doesn't mean not valuing science. It's wrong to deny scientific learning for the sake of one's personal beliefs, but that doesn't mean religion in itself is a bad thing.
@@up3315 The meaning of life is subjective. Science doesn't deal with subjective issues.
Science is very subjective. I’m not religious, but at the end of the day scientists are people who are doing their job. People means opinions and opinions means subjective. Job means money and money means looser morals. I’m not saying science is never objective, but it’s also not always objective.
Hopefully we all outgrow it one day in the future. One day.
not going to happen. one day every one of you will have their jaws dropped when he returns. trust me. I'll be sad for u tbh
@@world_MVP ok dude. We will all be waiting
@@Thanksvars there's literally evidence of Christ's existence, death and resurrection. Furthermore, there is literally evidence of miracles today in the thousands (that we know of, which are documented and proven by non Christian sources). Only faith that has miracles... it's not hard to understand that Christ is the saviour. You can choose to reject it, it doesn't make Him or his love for us go away. Most of you have done maybe 10minutes of research online cause you may have had some interest and otherwise rely on your own logic/mind to conclude God's non existence, sadly you are 1 human with finite knowledge and wisdom, to not do proper research (years and years) is doing a disservice to yourself my friend. God bless.
@@world_MVP Your God seems picky
@@world_MVPsad day for you when you die and its all BLACK and you release you wasted your entire life being indoctrinated
We need him in the department of education!
Stfu, every point he made is debunkable in so many ways
Did he ever had. This guest back in the show?
Wow I just had this conversation like 15 mins ago and so was on JRE religious clips. I’m thankful I am on a level of consciousness as this very educated man. I’m only 23
Have you found god yet
You have a lot more to learn your a baby at 23. At 23 I was an atheist and hated God. Now Christ and God are everything to me. Thank you Lord Jesus Christ for everything great in my life.
Jesus died on the cross for our sins. This is the good news of the gospel! God loved us so much that he gave his only Son who was perfect, just to take the punishment for our sins. Praise God for this blessing we all have!
i have had this conversation way to many times,
my person opinion is that the bible or anything similar was a recount, an average metaphoric guide line like "hey you will go through many thing much like these instances, and this is a summary of the BETTER choices from thousands of people who have lived and died working out what choice is better"
Then the idea of selfishness and class come about and those who where intelligent enough, used it to subtely control the people.
Also the idea of teaching it to children is Terrible!
all the blood and sacrifice and crusifiction.. i remember being inschool and being like "WTF"
i can't explain and i don't want to explain the things a child acts upon after hearing this like that, especially the repenting or anything the likewise.
pretty sure it was made to conrtol people from the start. Cause there are not many good guidlines to follow in the old testement lol
Atmos 556 doesnt mean god is real
i thank the Lord every day, I was taught about Christ and His love for us. I would be lost like many people today otherwise to lust and sex before marriage, gambling, greed, obsession with power, hate, lies, pride and envy to name a few. What's terrible is thinking you know everything and making a conclusion that Jesus/God is not real... when science agrees He was a real person, who got crucified then there are 500 eye witnesses of his resurrection along with multiple Kings that were non Christian also confirming this. Yet you still don't believe. Even if Jesus were to appear to you right now and show you his holes in his hands and feet, most people today probably will still not believe. It's your pride unfortunately holding you back and closing your heart and mind. Do more research please, it's all there, and don't get me started on all the current day miracles like the apparition of Mary our Mother at a Church in Zaitoun, Cairo as one of many examples. God Bless.
I agree with all of this but how about religions with no god like buddhism
It's more of a philosophy than a religion
@@suhailsiyadeen8455 ok but its still a religion
@@surr3al756 it's called a religion which is incorrect
@@suhailsiyadeen8455 It has spiritual aspects like karma and nirvana, it goes beyond a philosophy.
@@surr3al756 Eastern Religions are more into seeking thn dictating your life, it is philosophical and spiritual. Religion like Bhuddhism can progress with time cuz thy accept the change.
i always thought religion was made to control people. like honestly, idk if there is a god or not, but i dont think worshipping it helps as shown by history. not to mention how it has been used to assemble armies and to justify violence. not saying everything that came out of it was bad, not not all good either. feel free to debate
That’s definitely why religion was made, to get primitive people moving like robots, more people have been killed in the name of god than for any other reason
@@College-Bball-Gambler yeah
God belief was created to explain the unknown. “Why does the sun go away at night?” The sun god goes to rest. “Why does the river flood and kill our crops?” The River gods were angry with our village. Then they based religions around these stories to try and appease those gods, and control their society. So yeah, you’re absolutely right.
Science came out of religion. That sounds a lot like evolution! Can't have that x'D
That is true, Science came out of the bible, and Scientist didn't even read it cause the bible already said the earth was round way before Galileo and Christopher colombus, but they had no clue until thousands of years later, How? Because the bible is inspired by god
@@gcastroism bible says earth is flat, so does quran.
I would love to see a Christian have a discussion with Joe.
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here you go. Old video of Joe debating a brainwashed christian after doing a noahs ark joke.
Dude comes in to debate Joe somewhere around 3 min
I been wanting to see that for a long time, get a well prepared apologist and you will see a totally different conversation.
An apologist and someone like Dillahunty.
Lars Haderr i would love that
I am a Christian and would love to have a discussion with Joe! He would be stumped and would be put to dust, because the Bible itself is proof that everyone and everything was created by God and none of us would be living if it weren't for God. I mean, just look around you! Nature speaks for itself that God created it!! If only everybody could get this into their empty heads
Questioning Religion is the wrong title, Rejecting Religion more accurate.
You say that if we don’t teach a theory to be a fact it’s child abuse! How can we not see! Why can’t schools just teach both theory’s as theory.
Evolution still cannot be explained from the very start. in the beginning there was nothing, then out of nothing the big bang. how is that explanation for life, the stars, and the planets. it isn't, science tells us that you cant get something out of nothing. I respect everyone's one views, to each there own. I am going to believe in something so in case I am right at least I get to go to heaven. LOL and if I am wrong ill be a tree or something. better than believing in nothing and going to hell or turning into a tree. LOL logic seems sound to me
The fact is we will never know. But religion as it is on earth is all man made.
Science doesn't say that there was nothing before something. We don't currently know that the universe began. Though there are hypotheses...
Also, what if you believe in the _wrong_ heaven and hell? And go to a worse hell as a result? _My_ God sends disbelievers to the worst hell- so why don't you believe in my God?
Evolution only deals with biological changes in organisms over time. It is not related to nor required to explain cosmology. Science doesn't tell you that we came from nothing, religion does (just read Genesis), but religious people will tell you that to make you lose trust in the scientific community so that they can further manipulate you. Also I wouldn't just believe for the sake of it, I'd rather learn and question my beliefs and then come to a conclusion. Starting with question 1, why would an all-loving God sent people to be eternally tortured for the rest of their existence?
I just lost a ton of respect for joe Rogan. You don’t have to believe in a deity but let Lawrence Krause talk about god and the Big Bang like it’s an objective fact is disappointing when Iv see joe push back on god and religion not being objectively true. Have the same energy. They’re literally taking about the same thing.
I am very anti-religious, but it was annoying to hear him say that the big bang is a FACT. It is a theory. Plain and simple
Why should Joee push back on the big bang? 60 years ago, someone mughtve said, "you should push back on evolution, its. Just a theory." But the evidence piled up, and youd look like an idiot if you did that now. Maybe 5 years from now there'll be so much evidence for the big bang he'd look like an ignoramus.
Thats basically the difference between science and religion. Science is a body of knowledge that grows over time. Religion is a set of beliefs that shrink and become ridiculous over time.
@@jessemiller3108 The Big Bang is as meaningfully a fact as any fact about reality can be, in that it corresponds to reality. "Facts" are always subject to revision in the light of contrary evidence. Until we find such evidence, it's a fact.
@@Jay_in_Japan I believe in the Big Bang theory, don't get me wrong. It makes sense. I just hold a high standard when I'm discussing theory over fact. Even if the theory makes absolute sense
@@jessemiller3108 'High standard'? What class of facts are more factual than those which correspond to reality? 🤔
I heard that Lawrence Krauss is a Diva
Sorry for my ignorance on the subject because I am completely uneducated on this but how do we know evolution happened? And is it possible that people confuse evolution and adapting? Imo humans adapted to the changes in the world in order to live in it and if evolution is real then why don’t we see it in animals and people now? I’m genuinely curious about this if someone could explain it to me
Because every living thing is related. Every plant every animal is related to roughly 4 billion years ago. Man is an animal and a dangerous one.
There must be some purpose for it. Decorating. lol
You’re funny 😂😂
I love this guy .like Carlin said religion is kids shit
We dont know, anyone who claims to know is arrogant , unless you have had a nde ( but that's still not evidence it's your brain )
If a dmt trip feels realer then this life , then how do we know that right how isnt the trip ? If that makes any sense .
he said it all about how they pick and choose from the bible
Dude. You can believe in infinite intelligence and evolution at the same time.. *Sending love to all my atheist friends out there, I understand*
If given the choice, I'd rather know instead of believe. Out of humble honesty, I admitted I could be wrong about believing in God, and believing is not the same as knowing. Unfortunately many Christians take this humble honesty as an attack. I'm not saying I know it's false, I'm saying I could be wrong in thinking it's true, and that I actually don't know. It'd be prideful of me to say "because I believe and want this to be real, that means I'm automatically right and I can't possabily be wrong". Apparently that humble honest doubt is not bibical to many in my evangelical church.
@@shaereub4450 The legal orientation of western theology has hurt so many. From teaching that God had to kill his son, to God will endlessly torture anyone who doesn’t love him back. Coming from an orthodox perspective, Evangelical theology is a walking contradiction and frankly blasphemous. In the orthodox tradition God is other centered, self sacrificial love. God IS relationship, and relationship isn’t about “getting it right”. It’s about being in trusting union. David Bentley Hart is a good intellect on this that I think you’d like judging by your sincerity. Much love.
Marco shut up. Ur acting super pretentious and defending something that has as much evidence backing it as fairies, u really look stupid
god doesn't exist
@@Jordan-hz1wr
That isn’t biblical. You have just put your own wants and morals onto your god. The god of the Bible is not loving. He’s pretty monstrous.
Still waiting for John C Lennox or William Lane Craig. Come on Joe, I'm sure more than a few folk would be interested.
He won’t do it. Most of his follow are atheist. Most who follow atheism will not talk with true Christian apologists. Atheist are an afraid group.
'decorating' 😂
Joe has a kid(s)??
Krauss is way too sure of himself. I don't personally believe in a biblical god, but I do think the universe holds many great mysteries that get lost in the debate between Atheism and Religion. To me, "god" is something at once more elegant and confounding than an old man in the sky.
A5ids a few years ago I was conflicted between being an atheist or agnostic and I reasoned and reasoned with myself and decided to just be agnostic. Which simply means I do not know. I most likely believe nothing happens after we die, I think our conciousness ceases after we die but really we just don't know. My idea of God has always been an unconscious being or just the balance of things. It's a peaceful view
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Most atheists are agnostic. If you are not convinced a deity exists then you are an atheist. If you are not willing to claim that you know one doesn’t exist for a fact then you are agnostic. Gnosticism is about knowledge. Theism is about belief. Everyone is both agnostic/gnostic and atheist/theist.
Insofar as "God" is an unfalsifiable theory, and one that doesn't even make good predictions about the universe, we can say that it doesn't exist. It's a bad theory
How can something something nonliving make something so complex as a Human?
How can a "god" make something living from nonliving matter ? And who made the god ?
@@lewisner ummm God can? 🤣
Through naturalistic means. There are perfectly plausible, _testable_ naturalistic explanations for these things... unlike the God theory.
I can't get by the fact this dude looks exactly like that creep that was hitting on Jodie Foster in Silence of the Lambs. ... talking about child abuse. ......... keep this dude FAR AWAY for any kids, please.
you're a loser he's a genius
When you see someone so hateful of religion especially Christianity, all you have to do is check the early life section of their Wikipedia page. Every time.
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Probably molested, raped or abused by a self proclaimed “person of god” or “true believer”. Most efficient way to lose faith in organized religion known to man.
@monster17368 so you hate Jesus? A person who loved everyone he met? A person who wished and hoped nothing but the best for everyone he met? A person who tried helping everyone he could, given that there was an opportunity for him to? Sounds logical to me😃
Would love to see this guy debate Frank Turek. They’re mixing their subjective views of religion without confronting objective morals that you can’t deny as a human being. I.e why is it wrong to murder? Why rape is wrong? Why it’s wrong to steal? Joe stop hiding from other qualified apologists that can dismantle this clown.
Greg McFarland probably the dumbest reply I’ve read.
Dude christopher hitches destroyed frank in Multiple debates and I believe lawrence kruass has debated him on debate panels .......the fact u think we need a ancient book to teach us morals is actually pathetic.......people prior to moses and the ten commandments didn't need a stone to teach them not to rape or murder 🤣 .. sure it was more barbaric times but overall people weren't going around acting like animals they had some sense of morality after all were only talking about 3000 years ago humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years.
List an objective moral and explain how only religion taught this moral lesson
God is so good and merciful he allows us all free will to worship him or turn away from him. The constitution was written based on the principles and teachings found in the Bible which is what made it great and stand the rest of time. Many separatist risked their lives fleeing from religious persecutions in the old word and formed colonies here to give us the freedom to worship how we want. That should never go unnoticed or mocked.
God doesn't exist.
@@timdeathly He does though,and loves us,doesn't want to push himself on us,but has hell just in case we don't love him back, to be tortured forever,how's that not love ?
Is God all-merciful and all-just, in your opinion?
The constitution was not based on the commandments, given they directly contradict each other
well, that’s just not true, is it?. Jesus not once talks about hell, not ones. point me at any passage in the 4 gospells where he speaks of it? doesnt exist
Why not question the genocide and atrocities in your old disgusting book. Slavery, genocide, selling of daughters, subjugation of women etc... you failed to comment on the other stuff they brought up
@@ghostpacas7600 Convenient that they forgot to mention that, eh? Lol
What if science and faith can coexist? Please remember that the big bang and evolution are both theories, and religion is not faith. Faith in God is a personal relationship. You have a choice to believe or not. But public schools dont teach faith. But they do teach science and scientific theories.
Faith was invented by humans just like god
Science books don't mention going to hell for eternity if you don't believe in them.
Absolutely not. Faith is believing something without a good reason, otherwise you'd present a good reason. Science is a repeatable, demonstrable, and verifiable paradigm. There's no comparison, and reasonable people shouldn't dabble in faith, only beliefs with demonstrability. Also the big bang and evolution are scientific theories, not the colloquial definition of a theory. Look up the definition.
You need to relearn what a scientific theory is. It’s not the same as blind faith.
The Big Bang and evolution are _scientific_ theories. Models of reality which correspond extremely strongly with reality. Unlike the theory of "God". What testable predictions of reality does the theory of God make?
The universe looks precisely like what you would expect if there was no God, no Creator, but is governed by naturalistic principles. Naturalism makes predictions about reality, and those predictions correspond to reality.
Joe Rogan is so fair to Christianity that he interviewed Christian Apologists to his show to get their side - NOT! ;)
Why do you think joe rogan has a responsibility to be fair to anybody? Thats incrediby entitled.
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Actually he interviewed Ben Shapiro
Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson have been interviewed MULTIPLE TIMES by JR. Do your research before you say dumb things.
Christianity has had enough time in the spotlight
Dude was not lying but like all religions, beliefs, propaganda, he's preaching to the choir
The problem with the west and religion is that west Christian’s try to reason out through logic what God is.. not really Christianity at its core
always amazes me who people of such intellect can be so wrong about God and religion. im not even mad at him because you can tel by his body language that he is confused about the subject and Joe is simply too nice to confront him head on. we are much more blind than we think and cold hearted intelligence can lead to terrible places
could you expand on that a bit with more detail?
Explain how Krauss is wrong
Obviously you can’t explain this comment. They aren’t wrong about god or religion. Everyone thinks that THEY know about religion and others don’t. The biggest problem with Christianity, aside from the fact that there is no evidence to support it, is that the Bible is full of contradictions and can be interpreted to mean anything you want it to mean.
It always amazes me how religious people like you are so self assured when y'all have no proof for anything you say when science is constantly proving and disproving itself. "Cold hearted intelligence" is a made up phrase. To be able to find out new things , you need to be ready to have everything you know to be disproved.
it's ok guys we are slowly but surely waking up as a species moving away from all the corrupt religions in the world
corrupt? haha be careful and be humble. for he will return and you'll be in tears. but it'll be too late then. I'll be sad for u
@@world_MVP Threatening someone really helps prove how loving your religion is.
I don’t think wise people think it is a good idea to try and dismantle something you do not understand. Joe at 7:19 Lawrence at 9:10
Explain
If you're going to question religion, also question Atheism. As a Christian, if I didn't question religion as a whole, I'd be polytheist, an omnist, or an Atheist, but definitely not a Christian, not a Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist, Islamic, ect. Saying that because someone believes in God, a god or gods, a flying spaghetti monster, ect. is stupid and makes you just as stupid. When going into a debate or posting a YT comment challenging someone's beliefs/religion, assume the person has solid reasons as for why they believe something. When you don't do this, you get made a fool of on the debate stage or in the comments section--Christian, Atheist, or whatever, it doesn't matter. There are many people who convert to religions, namely Christianity and Islam, for varying reasons. Unsatisfactory answers for anomalies and events from science, the evil or perceived evil they see in the world or the religious world they left, and so on. Calling people stupid or belittling them because they're not an Atheist or whatever is a bullying tactic and will only ingrain what they believe to be true. The only people this works on are the weak-minded individuals--with exceptions of course. Religion does the same to people as well, not just Atheism. You want to convert people? Have honest conversations free of name calling, give evidence for your beliefs and why theirs are perhaps wrong, but never bully people into submission. Moving on...
The Fundamentalist Christians who threatened people for thinking on their own, or even proposing that women can wear.... jeans *GASP*, have largely died off--thank God--or have backed away into their "safe place"--the congregation of 10 people they join on Sunday to hear some closed-minded pastor confirm their extrabiblical and BS beliefs (let me also state that many Christians follow rules that are not in the Bible, so when attacking us, please keep this in mind). If you're an Atheist wanting to prove religion is a farce and an outdated leftover from our past, then stop exclusively (or seemingly so) attacking Christens and move on to all the other mainline religions. "Christians don't like gays." Islam slaughters gays. "Christians have ridiculous beliefs." So has science, also, Hindu religious texts say the world is held up by for elephants on the back of a giant turtle. "Christians don't believe women are equal to men." First off, most do, but we do believe in gender roles (as to the extent, that's up for debate); second, if you're gonna attack Christians over this, also attack Islam and Buddhism.
I am a Christians because A) that's how I was raised, B) I have thought for myself and come to my own conclusion that God is real, C) I find no other religion or set of beliefs to be as true as those that God has spoken to us through His word. I plan on teaching my kids about God when I have a family. If my kids question Christianity, and they should, I'll talk with them and answer their questions to the best of my ability as any good parent should. If my kids leave the faith when they're older I will still love them and pray they return to it.
(CONTINUED) "You're limiting the child's beliefs, leaving them unfree to explore other options." And you are doing the same by limiting them to one set of beliefs as well. If raising a child in a religion is indoctrination, can the same not be said for raising a child as an Atheist? "I stand with science." As do I in most cases, but the theories, yes theories, for how everything as we know it came about are changing and leave much to be desired. Just to clear up any confusion, I do not think Atheists, Islamists, Jews, Hindus, etc. are stupid for believing what they believe. You're only stupid for not questioning what you believe. You could be right, you also might not be. But you will never know because you never asked. But I do think all of them are wrong.
You may agree you may disagree. But thank you for reading and I hope I at least shed some light on things.
you must quit your religion and accept islam other wise you will go to hell.
from what i see in my religoous friends, others ive talked and in debates, many dont seem to grasp or understand what science is and how it works. no matter how i try to explain that science isnt capital T truth but instead a model/models of the best current data, evidence and predictability which changes with the more data we get...they still view it as thinking science is something akin to proclaiming absolute truth. i see this when almost always they bring up how "science has been wrong before" & try to show how that is supposed to invalidate the scientific method or whole theories like evolution a
re wrong. even if our understanding of evolution gets turned on its head 50yrs from now, the current model is the best and only credible model we have now to teach.
bobkilla430 This is one of the biggest problems with some religious people, and it's why getting rid of extreme religious thinking will be near impossible. They simply have never thought scientifically and just cannot grasp the concepts in any way. And to be frank, don't want to...
bobkilla430 This is one of the biggest problems with some religious people, and it's why getting rid of extreme religious thinking will be near impossible. They simply have never thought scientifically and just cannot grasp the concepts in any way. And to be frank, don't want to...
I use to believe in heaven and hell, till I reached the age of reasoning.
The thing I don’t understand is why Joe Rogan which look like a very smart and not coward guy, will not invite the most renowned Christian apologists and theologians and just rant by himself on his atheist echo chamber. Where are the William Lane Craig, Frank Turek, Mike Licona, JP Moreland, Braxton Hunter, etc, etc?
It's cos those guys suck. Craig is the only decent one. But even he doesn't fully understand the things he debates- like the Big Bang model of the universe.
We see what materialism have done to our society. Depression, anxiety, Jealous, suicide and death. Jesus is the way, the truth and the light. Just knock and he will reveal himself to you.
We've seen what Christianity has done to pre-Columbian societies. Oh wait they're gone
Invite john lennox please, give the Christian worldview a chance to be debate by someone who is well verses on it, not someone making assumptions.
Not assumptions. Facts. The belief of a god is outright childish, outdated and is holding us back as a modern society. Time to grow up.
Steven Chavez I’m sure your every opinion is also a fact.
@@magicdinho107 Naw. Not even an opinion. It's fact. You want to believe in a father figure hiding out in the sky, that's your right, but don't force people to think the same way. Because at the end of the day, you have absolutely no evidence of a god.
"There's some biological purpose for homosexuality"
JOE- "Decorating"
LMFAO 😆
I hate how for the longest time, it's always been religion vs science. The 2 idealologies actually compliment each other greatly. They're not that damn seperate. It's all about how you teach the concept of spirituality that really matters. There are SO many "christians" out there that dont reflect the title at all. People are even teaching the bible wrong. The bible never negates science. Science only explains Gods craft. However, spirituality teaches the meaning behind it. The 2 idealologies do MERGE
God is a rather bad theory of reality, though. Science- naturalism- offers better theories
They do not compliment each other at all. Science demands evidence and reason. Religion demands faith and uncritical thinking. The Bible makes several claims that are refuted by science. And as science explains more and more of our world, the less need there is for people to invoke god as a reason for things. The concept of spirituality has nothing to do with it. It’s about facts and evidence.
@@roems6396 science just explains Gods mysteries. You wouldn’t have a lot of science today if it wasn’t for spirituality. God isn’t an excuse to fill in the blanks of science. Science is just the reasoning behind vast Gods blueprint. Also, there aren’t too many claims in the Bible the science refutes spirituality because if you’ve ever picked up a Bible, you’d know it’s not trying to explain the world around us. The Bible strengthens peoples morality, it rarely mentions anything scientific. So saying that science ‘refutes’ spirituality is kinda weird since scientific claims aren’t even rlly mentioned.
Jesus never mentioned hell
You should probably read revelations my friend
@@Fireoncityyrevelations was probaldy written by the Catholic Church, they canonized the Bible on the 4th century, religion is in the control business, if you tell people they will endure eternal suffering if they don’t believe than they probably will believe… especially if they are illiterate peasants who don’t know what we do, I believe in god but how are you so sure the Bible with its many translations is the PERFECT word of god?
Show me a religion that we didn’t get from the ppl that held us captive!! ,, show me 1!!!
Lol in the bible it says in the beginning there was nothing than god created the universe. our greatest minds have come up with there was nothing at the beginning than a explosion happend and everything came to be.......awesome we really have come along way
Science never said there was nothing in the beginning, then the Big Bang happened. Science simply discovered that there was a Big Bang very near the beginning, but we have no idea what was before that (I say 'before', but a better word would be 'outside', since time couldn't have started until space started expanding, because time is tied to space). So it is still possible that there was a 'god', just that there is no evidence for that.
Catch up on string theory bud.
@Greg McFarland String Theory is the most elegant theory that unifies the uncertain and tumultuous nature of Quantum Mechanics with the certain and definite nature of General Relativity, it's the closest we've gotten to a theory of everything, 1 single beautiful theory which can reconcile all the 4 fundamental forces of the universe, dead end? Not just yet. May I ask you a question? Are you a physicist yourself?
@Greg McFarland Yeah you're right.
Explosion? Lol you just proven you are ignorant on the entire topic, therefore you can’t form an argument around it
Saying there is no God to me is foolish.
OK that's your opinion.
@@kkiller1438 we just happened to exist huh?
@@jesusgeronimo312 Good news! My comment was from a year ago and now I'm a Christian! I converted out of atheism when I realized the overwhelming futility of atheism. Atheism is just a spicier version of nihilism. Me personally I'd rather believe that life has meaning and be happy than believe that life is meaningless and be depressed.
@@kkiller1438 bruh since you believe in god now ? What procedure did you take to find the true religion and god
@@killuafans1403 Haha great question! when I started dating this christian girl, and she was like a super christian. Prays every morning when she wakes up and every night before she goes to sleep, reads passages, goes to Bible study, you get the idea. I wanted to make her happy so I started doing the things that she did, little by little, day by day, I took more and more steps closer to Jesus. She guided me through the maze of soul searching. I might not be with her anymore, but I will always be grateful for her.
Really did not think when I woke up this morning, I would be watching a video which made me consider gay 🐑
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Why?
Rogan @6:45 🤣🤣🤣
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The Jews do take the Old Testament seriously. They proclaimed the land of Israel was given to them by Yahweh.
People choose hell....
@Hummer’s Revenge It includes people..
@Hummer’s Revenge It includes people who choose hell. Come to what conclusion you want with your assumption. But to answer with the original: It includes people.
God offers a free gift. Praying for the best.
@Hummer’s Revenge I understand where you're coming from and respect it. But I could only agree if Truth was flexible. The truth is the truth because it's the truth. I know that's hours of discussion right there but I hope you consider that there can only be one truth. I believe Jesus Christ sacrificed Himself on our behalf so we don't have to pay the penalty of our sin. But even though I don't believe I'm wrong in my convictions, if I was, it doesn't make the truth of everything different. If the truth was nothingness then that would be the truth whether I believed it or not. My truth and your truth is not the truth. There is only The Truth.
I appreciate the dialogue.
hell isn't real
@@keepitcleazy9335 So he stays in the clouds, doesn't communicate but we deserve hell for not believing, disturbing!!!!
Lawrence Krauss seems to know a lot about what happened 13.800 million years ago.
That's what a good education and research gets you, but even then there's much more that you don't know than what you actually know.
Your username is an apt representation of the psychological conclusion of material reductionism, which is the principle of modern, empirical science. That is what, in my understanding, the writer of the original comment was implying.
And Christians like to think they knew what happened 6000 years ago. Lol.
Yes, it's called reality
If you understood the scientific method then you'd also understand how you find out such things.
Btw religious people sure seem to know a lot about what happened 2000 years ago even tho it's written down decades ago after the fact by 3rd party witnesses who's heard rumors and stories going from ear to ear over decades, but sure....it sounds so plausible we don't even have to use critical thinking when someone claims to have walked on water or rose from the dead. Why did Jesus come to illiterate Middle East and not in China where people could already read and write?
the elephant in the room is not evidence it’s it’s morality and accountability People are not on a truth quest their own happiness quest and they’re just going to believe whatever makes them happy
Science is a religion too. They said covid only spreads via droplets and we should stay 5 feet apart. We took that on faith and a lot, I mean A LOT, of people died.
naw
This guy is bad
Shut up meg
Shut up Meg
Shut up meg
This guy with the glasses just made Himself equal with a sheep and other primative animals lol which is totally understandable since evolution leaves them no other explanation than that!
What do you mean by equal?
Listen to what he says!
Lol
Unlike God, there's actual evidence for evolution
@@Jay_in_Japan No there isn't, well depending on which classification of evolution you speak of. And nothing is greater evidence then creation being evidence of a Creator.
John 15:16
why is the smallest demographic of the country joe rogans main guest demographic hmmmmmm
Truth is truth even if nobody believes it. A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it.
This guy is smarter than Jesus was.
this guy will drill atheism into a child which makes him a hypocrite, scientific extremism...hes mind is in a box or cube like most but probably very intelligent in other ways
early life never fails 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE!!!
No shit churches will even tell ya it's based on faith
The very thing their presupposing cannot comport with their professed worldview. Atheism cannot account for the basic preconditions of intelligibility. Only the Christian worldview can give us the necessary preconditions for knowledge. Their dependent upon Jesus this entire conversation...
You’re presupposing that Jesus has anything to do with the beginning of humanity. You’re an atheist to all other gods except one, some of which predate Jesus so how does he have anything to do with the preconditions for knowledge when Egypt had different religious beliefs and knew how to do some things we still can’t figure out how they did with the tools they had
You're just making baseless assertions
You use big words yet misspell "they're", LMAO
What's interesting is he doens't want evolution questioned but he quesions religon? hmm
Evolution doesn’t make any sense and is actually impossible according to what they believe in
The difference is the overwhelming evidence supporting evolution, and the lack of evidence supporting the supernatural
@@BoristheBlade yeah im sure he would question evolution if there is strong evidence against it, which there is not currently
You are mistaken ltltraffic. He welcomes the questioning of evolution. So that after the questioning he could bore you for months with the seemingly endless amount of evidence that supports it. And of course he is questioning religion, he is a scientist, they question everything.
@@goatrectum dude i'm not sure how we got here God or We shed our skin and here. You can knock holes in any theroy.
7:27 I wonder if Krauss is so angry because he's trapped so deeply in the closet that he can't get out from under last year's forgotten Christmas presents...lol
Go off sis
And it's very clear here that Krauss should stick to physics and not history/hermeneutics. The ignorance is all over the place!
Lorel Latorilla care to expound?
With pleasure.
1) There are Christians that believe in the big bang and in evolution. He needs to be aware that there are Christians along the spectrum that are not threatened by these two things. I personally am an agnostic when it comes to evolution--partly because I don't know enough and partly because I have yet to come across an empirical study that shows that species can form into other species.
2) "They think somehow not believing in God makes you a bad person." No. That's awful theology and a strawman. Christians understand that they are bad and they believe in God. It is only by the grace of God--and not by merit--that they can have a relationship with God.
3) Why is he quoting Steven Weinberg? Is he some kind of ethical philosopher? Does he have expertise on moral issues? Just because someone is a scientist, does not make that person an expert on morality. Scientists did, after all, create chemical weapons that are being used on people in the Middle East today.
4) The worldviews were not created by "illiterate" peasants. If they were illiterate, they wouldn't have been able to write.
5) How does discovering billion galaxies help the human civilization? The 20th century was more advanced in science and technology than any other period in the history of human civilization but didn't help human beings much in curing us of our savagery. Proof? Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, etc. I would like to know how an "ought" can be derived from a "what".
6) Connected to 5): He says why should we be guided by these iron age worldviews. I wanna ask him: why should we be guided by your scientist worldviews?
7) Krauss says that we shouldn't educate our kids on religion. Is he gonna be consistent and say that he doesn't educate his kids on his scientism?
8) Just because animals exhibit homosexual behavior does not make it natural for a human being. Lions eat their young. Does this make infanticide or cannibalism "right" or "natural"? There are certain species of black widows that kill their mates when they finish copulating. Is this is how women should act after they've been seeded?
9) I am curious. How is saying homosexuality is wrong or unnatural misunderstanding biology? I am seriously curious about that.
10) This goes for Joe: the New Testament was NOT created by Constantine. The New Testament--the different gospels and epistles--was transmitted orally in the 1st century and was eventually enscripturated and mass produced and sent out to different congregations. On top of that, Constantine had NOTHING to do with the canonization of Scripture because that didn't occur at the Council of Nicaea, which many people mistakenly believe. I love Joe and his show, but good grief man--do your homework.
11) The reason why Christians don't do those things anymore is not because we don't read it literally, it's because that part of the Old Testament is descriptive and not prescriptive. We can have a debate the ethical issues found in the Old Testament but if you're really interested, then read the work of an expert. For example, read Paul Copan's book "Is God a Moral Monster?".
12) "We like to see ourselves as good people" These people are as clueless as Krauss is when it comes to Christianity.
13) Just as heaven is described in figurative terms (streets of gold, for example), hell is as well. It is a caricature to say that God "tortures" people He doesn't like for the rest of eternity.
Very ignorant comment. It’s good to question everything even religion. Just bc not everyone is Christian doesnt mean they’re bad people. Stick to your day job bc you don’t know any more than he does lol
El Rilla
You are only talking about a small portion of Christianity. The majority do refuse to believe in scientifically demonstrated facts like evolution. Are you seriously equating teaching kids that they will be tortured in hell with teaching kids the scientific method? A lot of your criticism is way off base. If what they’re saying doesn’t apply to you then ignore it. But if you think it doesn’t apply to a vast amount of Christians, then you are fooling yourself.
@@elel2608 Unfortunately almost no Christians think like that.
Show me proof of big bang and evolution. It is just an opinion.
lmao, are you the dumbest person on the internet? Sorry but that's just another level of ignorance
@@Lambdaphile PREACH!!!
There is proof. If you believe actually science is an opinion then the universe must be glued together by opinions. Out of all things we humans have done, science is the one thing saying "what can I understand that isn't just in my head". Its trying to figure out what is objectively true. If you choose to ignore the piles evidence we have then you're just choosing ignorance
@@chaoticstorm8145 haha go back to middle school.
@@dean7680 I'm now in college studying Computer science and physics. If any of us need more education its definitely you buddy.
"Brilliant"
-The Universe
These comments are very one sided and that should be something to look into Joe.
*Thanks Joe, and your super smart guest, for illustrating why 'pride', is the cardinal sin.*
Can you unpack this for me? I can’t tell what you mean.