Sajid Tarar & Dr Ishtiaq talk Why Pakistan's Dream is failing ? Who failed us as Nation ?
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Dr. Qamar Cheema is an Islamabad-based strategic and political analyst. His areas of interest are Pakistani and South Asian politics. He regularly appears in national and international media
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My grandfather was in Pakistan in 1947. Came to India in partition. We are very hardworking from 4 generations. Had Muslims let people like us live there with dignity, then this day of begging bowl wouldn't have happened in Pakistan. We are very well settled now in India from 1960 onwards. Jai Hind 🇮🇳. Karma strikes back always. Always do good karma.
People in Pakistan 🇵🇰 are taught to hate INDIA 🇮🇳 Thank God You didnt Stay in Pakistan… saw a documentary about few Hindus in Sindh . They live miserable life … no electricity,, No roof over their head .. Torture😢😢😢😢
You would have been killed in an undisclosed grave and torture would have ensured for children and women, learn about 700 years of Islamic rule. Stop fantasizing about Paxtan.
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Just a request, dont be secular, dont betray Hindus. Dont help Muslims.
If Hindus and Sikhs could have been in Pakistan the 2 communities with seer business and proffesional knowledge could have lifted Pakistan to world stage and this is fact .. Muslims alone were divided and one section predominantly in Punjab region were engaged in suppressing ideology over the rest of Pak , and finally we all known why Pak is suffering
@krakenthunder7046 bhai actually hua to yhi hai hindu sikh chale gaye to uske Baad kya
@Kraken Thunder you stop
Thank God this Paxtaan was made or India would have got stuck with these unethical people as they describe and ur progress would have suffered..
@@vikasbhargava5653 agree rotten were out .. one think u must have observed we don’t have sectarian violence between Shia and Sunni communities in India .. it’s common in many parts of the world including Pakistan
If they had been in paxtan. Whats the objective of creating paxtan then 🤣🤣🤣
UAE 🇦🇪 has banned Pakistani 🇵🇰 visitors from 24 cities, on the charges of obtaining visit visas, and later begging in the country.
😳 that's depressing
Dr. Ishtiaq is legend person on this planet. As an Indian🇮🇳 I salute you🙏🙏 Sir.
I am shocked. They know everything. Every symptom, Right diagnosis. But noone listens. We Indians oddly love Pakistan inspite of the wars,terrorism because that land was ours too. We have memories there. But we also only see doom. Indiasvsecularism is best solution for pakistan to copy. But its too late now. Too late. People with conviction are not there in power. Double games are rampant. Pakistan has lost its purpose , reason for existence. Cancer in final stage
@@riturajput2462 Nation can't survive without nationalism. We Indian were attached with our earth and saying motherland to our country.
@@birendersinghgahlawat7697 This is hypocracy. We let our mother to be divided. We left our temples behind. Hundreds. We left the land where vedas were written. We forgot pakistan. totally. How many times we thought of hindu sindhis? Not once. We didnt even know there are hindu Baloach,hindu Afghans. We forget easily. Pakistan atleast remembers Indian muslims. Even if for wrong reasons. How many times hindu Sindhis issue has come up in UN? Never. How many times pakistani Sikhs issue has come up in
UN? Never. These are true minority
Muslims are secind majority in India
Tell one state where they cant live?one place from where they are leaving. Not one. But kashmiri hindus cant live in kashmir. Sindhi hindus cant live in sindh. Hindus have suffered
I give you the idea how to solve this problem go and tell Imran Khan that you should say that duriand line is the part of Pakistan it is the International border between Pakistan and Afghanistan can Imran Khan say that now remember he has to contest election this year or next year can he say that.😂😂 I give you the answer Imran Khan cannot say that😊😊....
@@pashabaloch6029 whats our concern. Durand line?
From what I have read & heard that partition of india was a very painful & gruesome for millions of Hindus who migrated to India, but today I am thankful to god that Pakistan opted to separate from us, had u still be with us our problem would have been far worse, thank you, after 75 years india is on a road that we will be a developed country in next 25 years, you might not exist in much before 25 years, your destiny is sealed, even allaha cant change it,
Bhai the only reason is islam
paxtanis are what they are today because of the path they took - no proper constitution, distorted history books, no higher education etc. if India was not partitioned then the muslims in paxtan would most likely be different. there would have been quite a large number of non muslims there. russia mostly might not intervened into afghanistan and even if they did Indi awould not help amreeka fight any wars there. so all in all the overall large country of India would be much better and the world would be a better place.
ACOMBINATION IN PAKISTAN. PAK WANTS TO GO FORWARD BUT ISLAM TAKES IT BACK TO SEVENTH CENTURY. COnFUSED STATE. JAYE TO JAYEN KAHAN?
I give you the idea how to solve this problem go and tell Imran Khan that you should say that duriand line is the part of Pakistan it is the International border between Pakistan and Afghanistan can Imran Khan say that now remember he has to contest election this year or next year can he say that.😂😂 I give you the answer Imran Khan cannot say that😊😊.....
@@pankaja7974 If you could not save the tailor in Rajasthan, do we need build castles in thin air?
Height of Optimism to think Pakistan will recover and will be on right path.
Foolishness. Noone is so foolish now. Everyone is waiting for yogiji
Yogi is waiting
Pakistan can only recover if all the provinces remove the yoke of central government of Punjabistan. Even Punjab will develope if they don't have to pay for the luxurious life of the elite.
Gandhi once said to Jinnah - I find no parallel in history of a body of converts and descendants claiming to be a nation apart from the parent stock. If India was one nation before the advent of Islam, it must remain one in spite of the change of faith of a large body of her children.
The history told by Dr. Ishtiaq Saheb matches with the Indian history, which was taught to us.
BUT IN PAKISTAN WE WERE TAUGHT "100 PERCENT LIES". WHEN I READ AND LISTEN TO DR ISHTIAQ AHMED, I FELT LIKE HOW THEY CHEATED, USED AND MIS GUIDED US JUST TO LOOT ALL THE RESOURCES OF PAKISTAN.
History is a greek work and it itself means recording history which is the truth. Twisting it changes nothing.
🤣🤣Indian history is a scam
@@SHIVAMYadav-pw5uz yeah, specially pre islamic history and post mughal history.
@@AB-media15 bro... Most of the things are half truths... Including fight of independence by our great leaders... Even after partition... History is distorted... Even 1971 war is a kind of scam...
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A very very thought provoking discussion. Thanks to the entire panel 🙏
Question for Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed. What was the fees that Mr. Jinnah charged the Khan of Kalat for advocating independence for Balochistan in front of the British?? Was it 5 times the weight of Jinnah and his sister in gold and silver?? Why did he take his fees and then betray the Balochi's?? First he took 5 times his and his sister's weight in gold and silver, advocated for the independence of the Balochi's, and then after they received freedom from the British, sent army to capture Kalat province. Is this professional ethics??
Great discussions between 2 legends.
It's great achievement of Dr. Cheema Sahab to bring them together
I'm indian🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳 muslim☪️️☪️️☪️️ happy living my mulk
Watched it twice.. too good.. why can't people like these be made advisor's to PM as they bring some sanity
you should know Mr. Zia Malik; people with Knowledge is never respected; Many people think power is in Money; so only rich people will become PM and their associates
Zia ji. The very fact that both are such learned and experienced people and had to leave your country because they speak the truth should give you an idea why Pak is this state today.
Listen to it again u missed a point by Mr tarar he got educated but can't pay to get a good job .....u ppl are stuck in a loophole the only thing Pakistanis wants is nihari paya kebabs and hoors nothing else matters
Nafrat biklti hai...mohabaat nahi
Sir Ishtiyaq and Sir Tarar
Great Discussion
So much Learning
plz continue 🙏
Jaa cheemu aaj tumhe bhi pahli baar aur aakhri baar like kar diya, kyu ki dono logical baat kar rahe hai
It is such an honour for us as listeners to witness these two legendary figures in the same frame. Thanks Cheema sahab for this lovely video. 🙏🙏🙏
The best part was watching Sajid tarar and ishtiaq Saheb's expressions whenever the other was talking. It was very clear the two were intensely listening to each other and were completely in sync.
AS A "PUNJABI MUHAJIR" WE SUFFERED ALSO EQUALLY. WHY I AM IN USA? BECAUSE ONE OF MY FAMILY MEMBER WHO WAS GOLD MEDALIST AND DID HIS PHD IN BIOLOGY , FROM A WELL KNOWN UNIVERSITY OF USA. WHEN HE WENT BACK TO KARACHI, "URDU SPEAKING" MADE HIS LIFE SO MEASURABLE THAT HE WENT BACK TO USA.
Kon jaao bola Pakistan india🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳 mein rehna tha
India ka partition kar ke "Muhajir" ban ke bhatkne ki mubarakbaad 😏
This is the most informative, balanced in-depth discourse on a very complex topic related to Subcontinental history. I admire both panelist’s understanding of all the dimensions of the issue. They have depth and grit to call it as they see it. Is there anyway, to talk live to both these gentlemen to ask them few more questions? Please advise.
Partition worked good for India. All the Afghanistan problems are now on the shoulders of Pakistan while LOC has a cease fire.
You have a great point 👍
India shouldn't have loose sindh and lahore.... Nehru could've bribe those monsters.
What is difficult to understand is that, why are people of Pakistan taking it lying down. Like all other human beings they too must have dreams and aspirations. How long will they let themselves be taken for a ride by politicians and establishment.
Learning for Cheema - juniors does not interrupt when seniors are talking.
It is learning experience for us to save India too from some corrupt politicians to make India a developed nation. India 🇮🇳 need to improve quality education for poor people.
As an Indian, I do feel sorry for Pakistan and I wish and pray that you people are driven by good intent and good deeds. But you need to acknowledge that your nation was created through violence, genocide and anarchy. Now the ghost of your deed has made your existence a nightmare. Had you stayed together as a united India, things would have been far easier. But you chose Islamist propaganda and hatred for Kaafirs. God bless you people.
Debarghya Roy
mera god toa nahi maf karaga inko .
never forget never forgive .
ya log na tum pea raham nahi karna tha if tables were turn .
@@siddharthkalantri5076 Ap sahi bol rahe hain. isi liye meri prarthna hai ke bhagwaan inko achha soch de.
Nice Discussion,Good Learning from Dr Ishtiyaq sahb, Sajid sahb very honest discussion,Thanks Cheema Ji
Love from India
I learn al lot with Dr Ishtiyaq Sir
Made me emotional listening to Mr Sajid Tarar - Two nation theory was introduced to take control and weaken the nation and people took the bait.
In the end Mr Cheema says by having guests like these " learning is good". My question if not utilized what good is learning?
Five times prayer is not enough, pray at least fifty times .😂😂😂
Wow loved it.. some banter... knowledge..Witt.. humour..facts..all combined... power packed..loved it
Dr Ishtiaq is ocean of knowledge of Indian sub continent historical facts. I salute to his vast knowlege. Cheemajee just to let you know Hari Singh Nalwa the general of Maharaja Ranjit Singh was borned in your home town of Gujrewala. You need another Hari Singh from your proud land to flush Afhganis out. Do not forget Rishi Sonak too comes from your home town. Salute to Gujrewala.
Inshallah...........
Mashallah.........
Alhamdulillah.....
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1000 sal tak ap discussion hi karte rohe😄😄😄😄😄😄😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
Dr sir and tarad sir ka dibet bahut hi solid analicies karte hai bada maja aata hai
Simply great. I will be waiting for next session with these two legends who are helpless and crying in silent. I hope Pakistani society will see their pain and do something for the sake of its own good.
Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmad is a really good & Honest Personality Salute U Sir.
Dr.Cheema - Nice discussion on Pakistan, hope Pakistani's are watching this channel. Appeal all citizens of Pakistan to compare what you learnt in schools and the reality.
Which Pis’stanis?
How many Pis’stani names do you see here?
Dr . Ishtiaq Ahmed is highly respected and knowledgeable political analyst, The POK we call it is best explained by him , point by point . Would request if he can have that program once again
No nonsense, upto the point debate, kind of a content i happy to pay my internet bills 👏👏👏👏👏👏
When the next discussion of the same panel?
I love the way you respect each other. You all are so knowledgeable and still have love for your home country Pakistan. I love your debates. You all are so honest. Allah aap sab ko khushal rakhe. Jai Hind
Allah kyon, bhagwan kyon nahin?
Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed yes, the other two are certainly not honest and sadiq.
Yeh dono al taqiyya karte rehete hain!
Good discussion.......keep on having more such ......
Please allow a question?
What was good?
Everybody ranted on what they thought was wrong about Pis’stan.
Was there a discussion?
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We r missing Barrister on this show… one of the best….
Applause for Dr Cheema for bringing these two highly experienced international personalities on one platform. One an pure academic and the other is hands-on grassroots experienced. 👍👍👌👌
And yes, Pakistan first needs to deeply introspect on where did it go wrong, so horribly wrong....
After all, like it or not, most of the Muslim Pakistanis have the same DNA as the Hindus in India. And Pakistanis are as hard working as Indians. How can one brother go begging for a few dollars and other brother has hundreds of billions.
Was it some strange combination of:
"Excessive use of religion in Pakistan, greed of elites, short term policies, too much corruption, too much interference by Pakistani army in political system, corrupt and compromised judiciary, too fast increase in population, nurturing extremists, terrorists and jihadis.....
The second part is what steps are needed to retrieve the situation OR is the situation is NOT retrievable. Wherein are the best options? Should Pakistan consider selling it's nuclear weapons? What are the pros and cons if it Pakistsan gives up it's nuclear weapons for say 300 billion dollars plus guarantee that India will not invade Pakistan?
Yes, we all know how well giving away your Nuclear Weapons is helping out Ukraine right now.
True
Why on earth should India even give such a consideration. Forget the Bhai chaara where the Hindus have been the chaara, or the non existent ganga jamuna tehzeeb. India should focus on dismemering Pakistan so that they are busy with each other and Afghanistan. The second would be to shift the Indian Muslims to the promised land that they wanted and got but did not go. Only then with the rest of the world helping these two Muslim nations would at last progress.
@@gdkamath Appreciated Qamar Cheema For This Discussion.
It Doesn’t Mean We Endorse Him Or We Agree With Him.
He’s A Moderate Fanatíc Pakístani Citizen.
all of them are out of Pakistan...not living in the so called land of pure....
Sajid tarar sahib..Ishtiaq sahib..Barrister sahib..Tahir Gora sahib...Tarek fateh sahib..if this five men army..a deadly combination...make program together.. super dooper hit..(keep out cheema) will love to watch & listen to such stalwarts
Temporary people of Temporary nation having discussion 😂😂😂🤣🤣
Dr ishtiyak saab is a legend and tarar saab also have a deep knowledge of pakistani society
dr istiyar sahab you are really a think tank and full of great knowledge.i regards you
Who is dr istyar?
What is your definition of a think tank?
How can one person be a think tank?
Dr Istiyak sir ..I am in Stockholm...how can I get an appointment to meet you sir...kindly let me know
Pls do atleast 1 podcast with this trio in every week ✨
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@srkkk5265 yes bhai khana khate khate inki bezzati Or inhe barbad hota huya sunne me acha lgta h 😂😂
@srkkk5265 yes, the only way they come out from these problems is the real democracy and changes in their education policies, otherwise " Jihaad " Inka felaya hua inke khilaf hi hote rhega 😂
Two noble souls from Pakistan. Being an Indian I just love the. Speak the truth
If India remained undivided today, Sajid Tarar would have been an businessman based in Mumbai or a politician of a national party in India. So sad that They created Pakistan
Thank you so much Cheema ji genuinely for inviting two great personalities..
Cheema shab I'm flowing you aap ka TH-cam par different view or news channel par different view
La ilah il Allah Qamar cheema Rasulallah
Rasgulla. 😁😁😁
@@DalitTimes 😆🤣😅😂😁
Qamar, Today iam happy to see you inviting the best analyst Dr. Sahab is great interpretator and best person . Tarar sahab is true pakistani and hindustani as well. As he alwayes believe both country come together. I appreciate you today.
Dissociative disorders are mental disorders that involve experiencing a disconnection and lack of continuity between thoughts, memories, surroundings, actions and identity.
Loads of love from India to this lovely Trio....keep educating us dear. God bless Pakistan... Jai Hind.
And now we have the tremendous trio of Dr Ishtiaq, Sajid Tarar Sb and the one and only Dr Qamar Cheema. Great going Sir 💯
Lots of respects from India. Pakistani awam ke liye bahut sari duayen. Bahut ache log hain Khuda apko sukun de. Sabhi panelist bhaut hi zaheen log hai mashaallah.
Thank God Pakistan was fomed otherwise imagine living with such people
I am from India and listened to all the discussions here of these gentlemen. Really amazed♥️
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DR.ISHTIAQ AHMED & SAJEESH TARAAR ...
TWO SWEET ORATORS..... NICE TO LISTEN THEM.... THE WHOLE WORLD IS CHANGING TOWARDS A CIVILISED THE MANNER IN WHICH A HARMONY IS SEEN...
Dear Qamar Cheema ji,
Thanks for the vlog with two eminent & learned personalities of our subcontinent. Please invite them again & in your show. Thanks.
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I give you the idea how to solve this problem go and tell Imran Khan that you should say that duriand line is the part of Pakistan it is the International border between Pakistan and Afghanistan can Imran Khan say that now remember he has to contest election this year or next year can he say that.😂😂 I give you the answer Imran Khan cannot say that😊😊....
Wonderful and very honest conversation... Admire all three of you 👍
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Istiak Sir and Tarar sir
Got addicted to your discussion
From Kolkata
The dream has turned into a nightmare!!
silly dream to begin with
Please learn more
Pichle dino ek achchha comment kahi padne ko mila hai- Yadi 1947 mein sabhi Musalman Pakistan (east& west both) chale jate aur vaha ke sabhi Hindu India- Bharat aa jate to Aaj Bharat USA, Germany, France jaisi progress kar chuka hota aur Pakistan ( both ) Siriya / Somalia ya Yaman jaisa hota.
Absolutely your team is excellent and both speaks from their heart for Pakistan so kindly do your shows with them very often.
Pakistani ppl imran khan is a gift from Allah, he is the only leader after jinnah who can bring good times and what Pakistan was always supposed to be.
He will bring in sharia and true islam that jinnah always wanted
Jinnah was a convert 😂
Bahut dinon ke baad Cheema ji yeh kahna padega ki aaj ka program bahut hi achha tha... Donon guests learned persons hai ahe bahut achha bolte hai... Aaj ka Face Off bahut achha tha. Thank you.
Touch wood Lovely discussion 👍👌 Thanks to Cheema saab ❤️
if possible kindly bring gaurav arya, sajid tarar and tarek fateh together
Thanks for this informative discussion
Thankyou this is good information .
As long as we are on right path there is a hope. Logic and humanity ends where fanaticism starts. All we need to do is walk on the right path.❤
And both the GUESTS have ADMITTED it on UTUBE , PLEASE SEE their earlier interviews.
Imran Khan is a pious devout pure muslim and represents the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in all its PURITY
You must be joking
@@veenarajput7936 I was being sarcastic Of course I am shaming them by saying that
Venkata Raghotham
islam mea free ka cream niklana haram hai so he cannot be a good muslim
Out of this discussion, one major point is noted right away: the reason for Pakistan's ruin is that the landlords have been given political leadership status; they are the elite now ruling Pakistan. They are all super rich and do not care about people or anything except fulfilling their interests in power and ego. Bilawal is one example. BOOTO is a Hindu caste name called Batia. When they converted to Islam, they changed the surname Batia to Booto. Cheema is a Sikh surname.
Great discussion. Dr ishtiq ahmed is a gem.👍
Cheema beta ji very enjoyable debate with two great Knowledgeable Personalites thanks dear
Do great personalty ki ek sath debate dekh kar bahut khushi hoti hai chemma sahab. Very very great full to all sir 💐💐💐🙏🏽
Despite having great personalities you have to remember that peaceful communities can't have any fault. All faults and mistakes are always for non-Muslim comunities. 57 most peaceful and prosperous countries including Pakistan, Minorities have evaporated and it's the fault of minorities.
Yay ceemu doka hay kam may zayda samzo doka hay yay doka
Oe chemma sahab kaun hai?
What is his relevance here?
डा. चीमा, तरार साहेब, एवं डा. इश्तियाक आप लोग बेहतरीन जन है। चीमा जी आप किसी वजह से भारत राष्ट्र ओर इतिहास की घड़ियों से छुपाते हों मगर डा. तरार ओर डा. इश्तियाक एक दम सज्जन सच बोलने से हिचकते नहीं। मैं दोनों जन को शुक्रिया कहना चाहूँगा 🙏
Most of the Indian viewers only watch these discussions and give logical comments. Punjab is Pakistan and Pakistan is Punjab.
Mr. Sajid Tarar is a very passionate person and the agony of detrition of Pakistan shows clearly.
Nehru speech on 14thAug 1947 - Tryst with destiny
The future beckons to us. Whither do we go and what shall be our endeavour? To bring freedom and opportunity to the common man, to the peasants and workers of India; to fight and end poverty and ignorance and disease; to build up a prosperous, democratic and progressive nation, and to create social, economic and political institutions which will ensure justice and fullness of life to every man and woman.
We have hard work ahead. There is no resting for any one of us till we redeem our pledge in full, till we make all the people of India what destiny intended them to be.
We are citizens of a great country, on the verge of bold advance, and we have to live up to that high standard. All of us, to whatever religion we may belong, are equally the children of India with equal rights, privileges and obligations.
no one cares
Wonderful...🙏
A false dream turned into a nightmare....
when the country's constitution itself discriminates on one's own citizens.
That is more than enough to describe Pakistan.
*"KARMA IS KARMA"*
*No need for revenge. Just sit back & wait. Those who hurt you will eventually screw up themselves & if you’re lucky, God will let you watch.*
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..paapi ko maarne ko paap mahabali h..
g*ndia funding bla and ttp isn't karma. 83000+ Pakistani soldiers, civilians, policemen and children have been killed by india/ttp since 2001. 200+ Pakistani soldiers have been killed by baloch terrorists/india since 1974. 2008 Islamabad Marriott Hotel attack happened 2 months before mumbai attack. Pakistan will be saved very very very soon. Kashmir will be separated from g*ndia very very very soon
@@Surrenderindianarmy *Phakistani, where is your 93000+ surrendered army?what they were doing since your Darpok army failed to fight*
*Phir bhi ISI no 1 in World*
*Islam is darpok religion like Pubg Mohmodya*
*By 2047 Pakistan will be in 5 Parts*
*Baluchistan, Sindhustan, Pashtunstan, Panjabistan, & GilgitstanBaltistan*
*Inshallah*
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@@sunala1265 120000 indian troops surrendered in 1962:
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@@Surrenderindianarmy *Channel ka naam dekha kya-🇵🇰*
*Konsa Madarsa main padhe ho*
*You Porkistani are expert in creating fake videos*
*Latest ImRand khan ki sex video (4 minutes) market main ayee hain share Karu kya?*
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Mere nana ji Syalkot ke the.
Are you a Kashmiri Pandit?
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It’s truly said, power corrupts, it corrupts absolutely.
Thanks a lot Mr. Ahmad and Mr. Tarar for giving us some insights into the reasons of why the dream of Pakistan has faded over the years.
Total soft propaganda read yourself do not trust anyone
Pakistan was created in name of islam, for islam by muslims. Pakistani army, punjabi elites continue to cheat on the idea of Pakistan. They refuse to go back to idea of Pakistan. Apply shariat in Pakistan, today ! Only Quran has all the solutions.
Cheema ko bolne ka mauka nahi mil raha hai
Yahi dono bolte ja rahe hai 😂😂😂
*By 2047 Pakistan will be in 5 Parts*
*Baluchistan, Sindhustan, Pashtunstan, Panjabistan, & GilgitstanBaltistan*
*Inshallah*
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Pakistan khud hi barbad ho gya
Gilgit and Baltistan part of india
@@ArvindSingh-iz9vt True, After division only, the whole part of POGB & POJK will get merged with United India.
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Keep dreaming. Pakistan will be saved very very very soon. Kashmir will be separated from g*ndia very very very soon. 1984 Khalistan Movement was Karma
Yar ye khatam kyu ho gaya
Dr istiyar sab is very learnt man, his views are pragmatic ,like this gems pak lost.
Who is Dr istyar sab?
How is he relevant here?
I really wonder if Pakistan had great personalities like these two gentlemen , what's wrong with the nation as a whole. Probably such men are not given proper positions in the system. Just look at the maturity and honesty, in today's world not only a nation but humanity needs people like Janab Ishtiyaq Sahab and Janab Sajid Sahab.
Agreed
Really amused to hear Sajid Tarar sahab using the phrase 'Oxford graduate' so often. If that is the gold standard of Pakistani higher education, then please go and see how many CEOs of top Organizations are from IITs (Indian Institute of Technology).
Good points raised seasoned discussion.