$250,000 FAKE MICHAEL JORDAN PSA 10!!
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It’s scary that people are putting fakes in what look like PSA slabs, but it’s always a good practice to lookup the number on PSAs site. I’ve seen at least 4-5 examples of it on eBay and reported the seller to EBay.
Thanks for reporting the fake ones
As an old time collector I love seeing your passion for the hobby (especially vintage), and your efforts toward spotting fake cards/slabs. Great work!
Thank you!
Geez don't even have to look that up I can see it's fake a mile away
I also used to think that older cert 10s were generally overgraded but I’ve seen many modern cert 10s that are worse than older cert ones
Very good catch. I've also found that you cannot 100% trust the photos on the PSA Auction Prices Realized when a card was previously sold through eBay. PSA simply pulls the photo directly from eBay, when in some cases the eBay listing COULD have been a fake. You need to do a lot of due diligence when buying high end cards. Best to get really familiar with the changes in the PSA flips over the years. There are a couple of great sites that walk through examples of the old flips. Nice work and great video.
Yup you are right. With PSA taking pics of every card now though, it should crack down on fakes
The psa bubble will pop I've been collecting sports cards for thirty years. I've seen all the hype over the years. Some sellers are crooked, the card companies are crooked psa is crooked.
Totally agree this PSA inflation is killing the hobby
Good catch. 👍Indeed, there's tons of fraud in the market. The only good thing about it is that there is a threshold these scammers hold themselves to, be it a raw card or graded card. Very unlikely anyone is going through the trouble to counterfeit a low-end collectible, which is what's good about buying raw and graded stuff that isn't very valuable right now.
Great catch Ryan! I just heard you on the Wax Pack Heroes Podcast.
What immediately stuck out to me was the presence of a standing fan in white, under the upper seating, in the fake. They don't appear on the real card.
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Great video. Also, there is a lot more white to the right of the text on the right edge of the fake label. Thanks for the tips.
Great catch!
so crazy, the fake is really well made. The slab case itself looks identical and the label is really convincing
So many of them
Hopefully the potential buyer who saved 250k rewarded you for the great advice? They would have lost a quarter million dollars!!!!!
you would think
Sounds like nothing? Unbelievable!!!!
If you look at the net. Then, look at the cement coloring of the upper deck just below the net. It's bright gray and there is no shadow or darkness. The entire upper color has been significantly altered. Now compare the color of the upper deck to the card on the right.
Right above shadow guy at the top of the isle, you clearly can see a bad photoshop goof with the upper deck concrete bright lit up coloring where darkness and shadows are what the original card should look like.
Great video, love the content! Maybe my eyes are off but the “edge wear” that you are talking about in the real PSA 10 looks like it could just be a rough cut, something that PSA is said to be very tolerant on. What are your thoughts?
Exactly what it is
wow, that's great information to know about the faking of PSA slabs, I thought it was going to be about how someone got a fake Jordan by PSA and got it graded a Gem mint 10,because makes me wonder sometimes like how they will send a card back with the designation of altered, won't be specific on how they think it's been altered ,just altered, and still charge you the express price of $164.00 ,which i think is unfair. But great to know now to look out for counterfeit PSA slabs.
Wait a minute, but can't they just get a legitimate gem mint psa 10 Jordan rookie, take it out of the real psa 10 case, put a fake Jordan rookie in the real psa 10 case, sell it and then get the real psa 10 Jordan rookie (raw at this point), send it back to psa to get graded again and then keep repeating the process?
Nice catch. Just out of curiosity, what is the lowest valued card that you've seen in a fake PSA slab? I know the high-end this can happen, but just curious how low they'll go. Thanks in advance.
Few thousand
I’ve seen $200 card in fake slab. Not necessarily a fake card but replace the psa 10 with a lessor grade card. Beware anytime you buy from consignors. Very few have high standards. Many let everything through. Always check sales history when buying a slab and checking the cert number and compare cards from original sale to the current card.
Main reason I left this hobby! Had a PSA 10 Jordan once myself and I would have never noticed the difference! Fake cases could crash this market! Got out of collecting back in 2015.
What would the price on the 53 bowman mantle be?
First thing I noticed right off the bat was the color was darker than the original. This is why I don't trust PSA because they don't care when it comes to grading, especially when that Jordan is not even a 10 maybe a 8 or 9 at best.
Thank u so much for making these videos
No problem
Thanks for watching
The problem is that psa slabs can be opened with strong suction cups and strong wrists with little to no obvious wear... I'm pretty sure if you have an ultrasonic welder you can put them back together, perhaps even with epoxy.
New ones are way better then the old gen
@Breakout Cards I saw it done with a late 2021 PSA slab, try it, you'll probably be surprised.
@@rarelyaccurate6252 oh man that’s scraty
Grew up with a kid in grade school , he collected nothing but mj rookie cards , had a whole album of them , no shit . I hope he still has them in his moms attic god only knows
Oh geez could you imagine….
thank you for how you help hobby spot and out fakes.
No problem
You just gave counterfitters a better idea to make fake ones better. 😮
Hope you enjoyed the video! Be Careful when buying high end cards!!
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The give away to me is the N is under the P in psa, the real version it’s under the S
Somebody's still gonna get dupped for 200k on it just a matter of time....
Great job and keen eye! Well done!!
Thanks terry
I've got one but the back says replica had since early 90s
I have an authentic one, and want to get it graded it is gem, but how much upcharge will I get if that’s the case with PSA. Please help.
They will charge pretty much on the grade
Looking at the card itself I could tell the blue was off on the nameplate instantly.
Good info. I got my PSA 10 Jordan early 2000s so no where near the cost of what it's valued today. What's the value on the complete set all PSA 10?
No idea on the value I’m a baseball guy
That’s scary. Great video.
What baffles me is the authentic Jordan PSA 10 having edge wear? How and why if it's PSA 10? It's should've been graded PSA 9 at best.
You already know we are a year or 2 out from perfect fake slabs and perfect fake cards if they are this close now. I don’t feel good about where this is going to take the hobby.
Nah there's no such thing as a perfect fake. People have been making fake cards for years but they can never make one identical to the real one without the original printing plates. Under a jewelers loop the differences are quite obvious.
The color alone is the red flag. The PSA Pantone is the same Pantone Red from 86 Fleer, (done on purpose fun fact)
Didn’t know that. Interesting
It's hard to have the confidence to buy a Jordan at any grade from any collector at this point.
The fake Jordan also has a thicker red border on the bottom. It’s pretty apparent in comparison to the real one.
When your word document randomly changes from Ariel to Times New Roman
Haha
This was FIRE!
100% STAY AWAY from those old PSA labels. Only the Lighthouse ones.
Cheers.
Great info.
Thanks Ziggy
Thanks so much!
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I got a fake PSA 9 Jordan that's better than this fake. The slab was beat and it was in a lot with some other decent ungraded cards I got for $300 at an auction where stuff goes cheap and the other cards will get me more than my money back. I was pretty suspicious but not knowing how to spot them at the time I went with it but wouldn't have gone much higher. No risk no reward and the reward is now I can spot a fake thanks to your other video.
The PSA imprint is missing on the fake case. That should be your first clue. In the lower right corner of the case should have a mold imprint with PSA. But always look at the product. It is clearly not a 10 because of the border and the color bleed of the actual image. Anytime you consider purchasing a card, take a verified PSA card/case with you. An honest seller will want you to do your due diligence, while a scammer will try to rush you.
So the fakes are looking better then the original psa 10 , wow
i dont agree. can't really tell from picture unless you took a pic of both with exactly same lighting and angle.. just sayin'... good channel
I seen a fake 1985 mario lemieux topps psa 10 sell not to long ago on ebay.
The centering at the bottom is not the same, either.
They use the wrong font for the R on the fake labels
Damn good catch that’s so much money😂
Crazy amount
There are many more fakes of different cards and will only get worse.
the fake jordan card is better centered than the real one. LOL. seriously though, any gem mint 10 should be near perfectly centered. the real card centering is a 9 to me.
The centering on the real one is off top to bottom... The fake one def looks more centered.
Real one also shouldn’t be a 10 but that’s a whole other story
Good catch but I wanted to let you know that both of those Jordan's are fake. The original card was graded a while ago and is a fake that wasn't caught in the early days of PSA. The color is way off and the "ghost" on the steps is missing or barely visible.
Isn't NFT's going to solve some of these issues ?
The centering alone gives it away
Interesting
I love how you compare edge chipping on the psa 10 slab to show how its real... thusly showing psa grading is a scam.
That's not edgewear, that's the way the card was cut. O-pee-chees from the 80s always have this. That's why PSA doesn't count against the card as that was how it came from the factory.
I’ll never buy an expensive card due to the cheating and thieving that goes on in this community
Did you go to UCF?
Yes
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Good stuff
Thanks Robert
coin graders like PCGS and NGC have several security measure that some teenager cant make on photoshop. thats the first thing that comes to mind looking at these graded cards, the grading company should bare some responsibility, look at those crap cardboard headers, ANYONE could make it. no attempt at all at security anti fraud. i wont collect cards, nope
Needs way more security
90s...fake Jordan..inserts..are ..all over..the place..now
Funny enough, I was watching this card and it got removed...
It was on eBay? The seller knew then and is trying to move it
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250.000 for a card that was made in the 90s..... sigh
All you have to do is look for the white dot on the back of the card, most of the real 1 has those. You confusing people more by point out the colors on a video when it not clear enough for them to see
Have to look at the back of both of these cards. This wasn’t a full break down on every difference
Way to many fake 86 fleer Jordan cards.
Jordan is so hot his fakes are 125k.......
Color is way too hard to judge in photos. That point means nothing. You should remove that comment
Color matters yes lighting is different but this fake was off
#GKCO
$250.000 dollars for a piece of cardboard, HA HA HA HA , when the econamy crashes in the next 10 years you will have a worthless piece of cardboard.