Princess Peach Showtime Left Us With a HUGE Question...
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it's imperative that rosalina gets her own game she has so much lore
Or she can come to Princess Peach showtime.
I totally agree 💯
OP's name checks out 👍🏼
Galaxy 1 kinda was her own game, you couldn’t play as her but she was the biggest focus
the last thing that nintendo would ever do is add lore
3:09 "She looks just like Wario." HIT THE CREDITS!
Purrjector dress
This is just a theory, a sequel to a game theory
The devs who worked on Galaxy confirmed the connection in some anniversary book but said it was a scrapped idea. Also it was confirmed in an interview with Yoshiaki Koizumi. Despite the devs saying it was scrapped, that was years ago so this idea might have been brought back.
And don’t forget our main man MatPat covered this theory years ago with tons of evidence that may have been debunked years ago, but Nintendo might just retcon MatPat’s evidence as in-universe hints used in a reveal in some future game.
In late 2022 I encountered some info that wasn't actually leaked to public, that described Peach with a blue dress and a star character without naming her as Peach, so I gathered it was a Rosalina game in development.
In conjunction of that info it seems that Vanpool, that was considering a Kirby-style Donkey Kong game inspired by Dillon's rolling Western, was amicably dissolved into the Mario Kart dev team. Not "team" really but more like a league, it's not actually "a team" at nintendo but members move around various teams. AlphaDream staff are also there and I believed they worked on Wonder by the appearance of that game. I also believed it was gonna be out with Sonic Superstars on mobile, so eh.
Some group among that labor pool is now working at Namco Studio 2 and Studio S, specifically for the purpose of easing into the "company secrets" that could be leaked through Namco. It's sort of like an airlock with lesser clearance that are trusted to know more about what's going on at Nintendo, and apparently will be working in the new Kyoto HQ building.
Other details in this connection suggested a trading card game for Holiday 2023 to release ahead of Switch 2, not specifically because NO mention of Switch 2 still exist but it would have not required Switch 2, yet be compatible with hardware for years to come. Description of this card game make it sound like a follow-up to Smash and heavily feature an angelic character, either Kid IIcarus or possibly Baten Kaitos for suggestion of assistance by Monolith Soft. I gather it would be both, sorta, like Xenoblade Chronicles 2 crossing over to Xenogears.
Anyway, that's how I'm narrativizing it. My point is that this info was COMBINED, not that it's trustworthy. I don't post on Twitter and I don't delete mistakes for the Nostradamus effect, this just is what it is and I find it curious.
Nobody whit a brain take mat pat seriously. If the idea was scrapped then it gone never coming back.
@@INFERNO95 Nintendo could easily retcon it back. And Yoshi was originally a scrapped idea and he got brought back.
@@thedoglovinggamer5825mmmmm good point i hope it's retconned back in like Yoshi
Game Theory fans: *First time?*
Jokes aside... I do genuinely think that this is just a coincidence, _maybe_ inspired by Rosalina in some way, but nothing more. Princess Peach Showtime was made by a completely different development team from normal Mario games. I highly doubt it matters to the "lore" unless Nintendo decides "hey actually we should make that canon" later on.
(Also... The theory was that Rosalina was _Luigi_ and Peach's daughter from an alternate timeline, not Mario).
No Princess Peach she is in a relationship with Mario lol, Princess Peach x Mario, Luigi x Daisy the best couple ever
The hypothesis itself is pretty flimsy and even relies on non canon events, and real life science that doesn't fit in the high fantasy setting of the Gameverse. Rosalina's magic is also definitely not the Power of Sparkle, but it is the same as Peach power. Her magic is star or wish magic, but a power that seems to be held by all Princesses, and there since they are young as evidence by Baby Rosalina wielding it.
@@Eris1987 It was confirmed by the devs in an anniversary book and an interview that Rosalina and Peach were supposed to be related but it got scrapped late into development.
@@Princesse_Peach_la_meilleure Hey, its an alternate timeline, and also just a THEORY. Calm down. 😅
@@lasercraft32yes sorry
I actually like that there is so few informations about Rosalina. Because thats making her so mysterious
Mysterious don't Make her interesting character.
@@INFERNO95if it done well it can
Remember when the koopalings used to be considered bowser’s children? Nintendo later retconned that in favor of them being simply his minions. They could do the opposite with peach and Rosalina, making them related.
It was only mentioned in the manual and due to the timeline issues it created they scrapped the idea. I highly doubt they would bring back that scrapped concept. It also seems unnecessary to make the Princesses related when there is countless other Kingdoms she could be from.
But that's how turtles are. They're all orphaned onto a beach, there wouldn't be a distinction between children and adopted heirs.
It's mario and Luigi who are brought by storks, the messy way to have kids.
Not that Koopas ARE turtles, because they specifically CAN'T detach shells like hermit crabs. Unless of course, some stygian manipulaton takes place, that would require deformed Kamek's Toadies to abandon their lives as lizards, Birdos and Spikes, and shy away from the public eye permanently. Because the magic to ATTACH their magical shells permanently didn't go too well, and have them be close enough to Bowser to pass as ROYAL bees, uh, I mean Koopas.
Do you now what Royal Jelly is? Or is this HEADY sci-fi too complicated for American children, beekeeping lore and cute animals?
@@sboinkthelegday3892many much confusion
@@Eris1987 I mean, either this is a really deep reference, or Nintendo is hinting at something
@@sboinkthelegday3892 Koopas are delivered by stork alongside all the other Babies as evidenced in Yoshi's Island ds. In addition Koopa shells are not part of their bodies and are more like clothing. They constantly take their shells off or get knocked out. We see this in Mario Bros, Super Mario World, Paper Mario 64, Super Mario 64, Super Mario 3D World , etc. Bowser removes his shell to get different abilities in games. Strike Equipment sells shells for things like Karting, Party, and Strikers events. Some shells can be ordered custom made. Some are worn are helmets by Ant Troopers and Goombas. Some are worn by Mario in games like NSMBDS and Bowser's Inside Story. Yoshi's wear shells which are not present in Baby Yoshis. Junior Troopa doesn't have a shell. There is also not royal jelly thing, and is never implied in canon. Bowser is just another species of koopas. There are various species of Koopas such as the Common Koopa, Bros, Spinys, Buzzy Beetles, Troopeas, Spiny Tops, Lakitus, Magikoopas, etc. Bowser is part of a species I've dubbed the Boss Creeper species. This species includes Dry Bowser, that Blue Bodies Bowser of unknown origin, and the Koopalings.
I'm sensing a retcon in that theory...
It’s not Radiant Peach looking similar to Rosalina.
It’s Rosalina who looks similar to Peach. Go find out yourself when you remove that hair bang covering her eye, it would show that she uses Peach’s face with sad expression. Peach merely wore light blue dress to resemble Stella; yet Rosalina is suddenly tied to the topic when she has nothing to do with Peach Showtime, that because she is a carbon copy of Peach but in blue.
Finally someone who is not dumb
This!
3:08 You April fooled us 10 days later!
Oh my god. SOMEBODY TELL MATPAT! I KNOW HE'S RETIRED, BUT MORE PEOPLE ARE BELIEVING HIS OLD THEORY!
His old hypotheses are a burden to those who care about Mario lore.
Didn't game theory predict this years ago?
Yes and no. It was already confirmed by the devs.
i don't know, matpat did comfirm this but i think the devs predicted this.
@@viviennemorgan7217do you mean the devs confirm this but matpat predicted this?
@@hohuy3656 same thing dude
@@viviennemorgan7217when tho
I love the ending of Princess peach showtime it felt like a kirby ending nintendo should do that more often
TH-cam theory: matpat and nin10do land are related
Just cause both resemble and peach had a white blueish transformation doesnt mean they are automatically related
It is called a theory.
A GAME THEORY!
This never watch magical girl anime. If they watch sailor moon they would make videos thinking she and venous are related.
In the french version of Mario Galaxy, the father of Rosalina is mentioned to have a mustache he's proud of. A line like that can't mean nothing. It means Rosalina's father has to be tied to Mario or Luigi in some way, if it's not directly one of the two.
Yeah, but is it in the Japanese version. Additions like that don't actually apply to canon.
@@Eris1987 Don't ask me, ask people who understand Japanese. I wish I'd understand it but I don't. And hey I trust the french version to be accurate to the japanese one more than the english version, since the french version didn't remove Vivian's transidentity unlike the english version did in Paper Mario TTYD.
@@Oceane1803 basically it's absent from the Japanese version.
Its Waluigi
@@Eris1987 Ah. I wonder what made the french translators decide to do that. Maybe they ship Mario and Peach a bit too much ^^'
I had a feeling Stella was inspired by Rosalina
Lol the spoiler alert, when the Radiant Peach transfomation is in the thumbnail😂
9:41 it’s not Mario, but LUIGI and peach who are supposedly the parents of Rosalina… take a ton of closer looks at the storybook again; the Telescope(Luigi’s mansion), the green hat on her brother… and THE HECK-ING MARIO 64 VERSION OF PEACH’S CASTLE IN THE BACKGROUND!!!
2:21 I wish that one of the Toads ran off to get Mario & Luigi at the Start of the Game once the Entrance was sealed with Peach still inside only for them to show up in time to witness the Phase 2 Fight just for their reactions alone.
Peach and Rosalina were meant to be related but that idea was scrapped before Super Mario Galaxy was finished
She looks just like warrior :))
I kinda assumed they were related in someway bc they are both blonde and both have blue eyes not to mention that rosalinas mom has the same features as peach like the hair and round blue ear rings so they probably have the same mother that’s what I though anyway unlike matpat who thought peach WAS her mother lol
I understand what your saying, but just because both are Blonde and have Blue eyes doesn’t mean they’re related, that’s like saying Wario and Waluigi are Related/Brothers just because they have similar features. But it was never confirmed that both have the same mother, and it’s crazy how MatPat thought Peach was Rosalina’s Mother. Anyways it’s possible that it might not be retconned because that’ll just make some of the Lore confusing.
So does that mean sailor moon and sailor Venus are related too? Just stop.
I think this kind of ties a bit into what they are setting up in The Mario Movie. Peach kinda took a side step when Mario suggested she was from Earth. So I think with that plus what they did with the ending of Showtime, the princesses might be more connected to this. That they are from this same world, where Peach and Rosalina have a connection, and that they have this cosmic power that they opened the door for them to have. Plus we might get to see what this world might be at some point. Maybe in a game or in the movies, but either way, it’s smelling like Peach and the princesses might get a bigger role in the future.
Rosalina fans tricking themself with their theory when it was debunked years ago. When will you all just admit that she is just a lazy peach clone in blue? Peach new transformation is the ultimate prove.
Nintendo has hinted at Peach and Rosalina's connection ever since galaxy. There are many different similarities between the too.
But in this video it felt more like a theory that was definitely correct but half the evidence was a stretch, coincidence, or just wrong.
I have a feeling this is all due to Stella....Stellas dress also looks like Rosalinas. Additionally she kinda looks like a Luma...maybe she’s related to Rosalina?
(As you mentioned)
I don't get why some people think it would need some back to time stuff to work, when it's the opposite. Rosalina stated she has saw the universe ends (we don't know how many times) a thing that happens On game. To make Peach now resemble more the images of her mother, I think its never to intend She is her biological mother, but she was in long extinct time-line
There's no way Peach is related to the space goddess, Rosalina! 😱
I would love it if they were sisters and that would be extra interesting because they would also have a brother. Peach could have gone missing as a toddler/baby and Rosalina was a kid when she left. While their brother could still be on their home planet.
Peach was taken to her parents in the Mushroom Kingdom by stork in the Gameverse. Rosalina is more than likely from another Kingdom in the Mario world, there are countless even over lands in the Mushroom Kingdom.
@Eris1987 I think Peaches origins was retconned In the Mario movie
@@ZayaMillis The Movieverse didn't retcon anything because it is a separate continuity from the Gameverse, just like the Rabbidsverse is a seperate canon from the Gameverse. The Movieverse has too many differences from the gameverse. Such as Mario and Luigi being from real world Brooklyn, while the Gameverse has them being from the Mushroom Kingdom later moving to Big Ape City which would take on the name New Donk City. Donkey Kong the Third is the son of Donkey Kong Junior and his grandfather is Cranky Kong in the Gameverse. Donkey Kong is from the Kong Archipelago from the Gameverse and not the Jungle Kingdom. Etc etc etc.
@amazingactor222 The movie didn't recont nothing it a dumb movie that has nothing to do whit the gaming world. Stop it.
@@INFERNO95 Calm down girl
Wake up nin10do land just posted
when she is flying around repairing the theatre it does a slow shot of her flying and she looks just like rosalina does when she flies in smash bros it looks the exact same thought i should mention that to lol
Wow I love game theory
Sparkles, peach missiles, bro what did I miss in this game? 😭
Nintendo... can you explain yourselves?
No we don't
@@user-ku8yi5to4f fine...
There is the act that in the Mario movie, when Baby Peach came out of the warp pipe, her skirt has stars and other space-related objects
I guess Princess Peach is Rosalina’s sister ❤😊
I didn't know that Super Radiant Peach looks like Princess Rosalina nice reference Nintendo
This is i swear, inspiration from Game Theory lol
Has Radiant Peach been secretly fighting along side the Radiant Hero Ike in his fight to undo Ashera's unjust judgement this whole time and we're just now finding out?😲😂 That's my new headcanon when I first fought Grape and nothing can change my mind
I've heard that some people think Peach is Rosalina's Mom, but in my opinion, I don't think she is because Rosalina is hundreds of years old while Peach is only like 18 or so years old. And if Rosalina isn't hundreds then she's at least 100. I know this to be true because Rosalina visits her home planet once every hundred years as mentioned in Mario Galaxy. But they might still be related in some way, I just don't think Peach is Rosalina's Mom.
Peach is at least 24. The Mario Bros. are 26 and Bowser is at least 28, yeah commercials for a product don't count as canon.
Maybe Rosalina got her powers from being the lumas' superstar? I headcanon it like a loz gratitude crystal situation. Like Enough emotion being enough to make magic nonsense happen
She has had her powers since she was young as evident by Baby Rosalina wielding this magic, which was before she met the Lumas. However, it is connected to the Lumas, well some of the Lumas and only the older ones. The Star Spirits with the star magic that is wielded by basically all the Princesses, but also the Tribe of the Ancients, the Mushroom Genie, etc.
Ngl I thought everyone knew this already
Same
We do they have nothing to talk about due to lack of news from nintendo.
I was calling it out days ago. Glad a major influencer is backing me up.
Spawn Lumas? She doesn't make baby stars she takes care of them like the those in Starborn Valley. Also, I think it's highly unlikely they will bring up that scrapped concept. Her magic is not radiant energy, it's star magic just like Peach, Daisy, Mushroom Jeanie, and the tribe of the Ancients use. Also, the examinations are giving FNAF hypothesis vibes when Mario is usually more straightforward with look and connections being pretty obvious. We know where Princess Peach comes from in the Gameverse, she is from the Mushroom Kingdom. She is also not the only human in the Mushroom Kingdom, let alone the planet. You have Mario and Luigi who are Native sons of the Mushroom Kingdom who we see grow up in the Mushroom Kingdom in the Yoshi's Island games and Partner's in time. You have Professor E Gadd, Wario, Waluigi, the Kings from SMB3, etc. Outside of the Kingdom you have the citizens of the Metro Kingdom, the people of Diamond City, and Princess Daisy from Sarassaland.
You know, that ACTUALLY sounds like a VERY INTERESTING theory about the possible familial connection between Princess Peach and Rosalina, and as far-fetched as it sounds, I really do think that Rosalina IS somehow related to Peach. The only problem with this theory is that Nintendo themselves are TOO SHY on even touching on origin stories for characters, its just like: COME ON Nintendo, why not do some origin stories games that reveals more details about those characters like Rosalina, because that WOULD mean SOMETHING and it would definitely change the way we once thought about our favorite Mario characters. So again, Nintendo SERIOUSLY NEEDS to consider making origin story games. 👍
but hey thats just a theory, a game theory.
Rosalina did have a brother. I forget; did the storybook say anything about anything happening to him? Just something to think about...
My reaction when princess peach turn into Super Rosalina in princess peach showtime😮
It looks more like rosalina's mother in the sketchbook of galaxy
Looks like this is Rosalina unmasked part 3
I think the devs knew what they whar doing when making this from this must be connected to mario Galaxy
Princess Peach is not Rosalina's mother
I agree. I do think Peach is connected to Rosalina, but not as her mother is just way too confusing
I wanna see a mini 6 inch radiant peach figure some day
9:38 Not so wacky when you realize that E.Gadd invented Multiple Time Machines. The one in Partners in Time and the one used on Gooigi in Luigi's Mansion 3DS.
To me peach looks younger than Rosalina so I can’t imagine her being Rosa’s mom 😭
0:47 *A game theory!* But yes, I kind of agree with all of it. And maybe Nintendo *will* change their minds about them being related when they port Galaxy 2 to the Switch, or maybe even the Switch 2.
Been saying it for a while, Peach is her mother
Rosalina travels back in time before Mario and Peach got Rosalina as their daughter
No Princess Peach is not Rosalina's mother lol it's just a ref plus the dress is a mix of Frozen and Rosalina
If Nintendo wanted us to think that, they would have given Rosalina's mother a pink dress instead. What the characters wear in canon actually holds a lot of merit.
@@Princesse_Peach_la_meilleure The devs who worked on Galaxy confirmed the connection in some anniversary book but said it was a scrapped idea. Also it was confirmed in an interview with Yoshiaki Koizumi that it was planned but was scrapped late into development. And it was confirmed that the mother in the book was supposed to be Peach.
@@Eris1987 The devs who worked on Galaxy confirmed the connection in some anniversary book but said it was a scrapped idea. Also it was confirmed in an interview with Yoshiaki Koizumi that it was planned but was scrapped late into development. And it was confirmed that the mother in the book was supposed to be Peach.
@@thedoglovinggamer5825no Princess Peach is not Rosalina's mother lol The theory is completely false lol
My head and heart is going to explode in happiness! 😊😊😊
Are we FINALLY starting to get some ACTUALLY GOOD Super Mario LORE???
No. Nintendo doesn't care about rosalina.
@@INFERNO95 I believe that you are confusing Nintendo with Odyssey Central
Game theory already predicted this like 5 yrs ago
He was piggybacking off a interview.
Yes theyre related they are both mother
No Princess Peach is not Rosalina's mother lol
That was never confirmed. What was confirmed is that they were planned to be related in some form whatever that may mean
I would be more inclined to believe that they were sisters rather than mother and daughter with Mario as the father.
Or Luigi
when i told one of the youtubers on the post that rosalina is peach's daughter, she said that they're friends and i replied back to her or sisters, but i don't think that was the case, because of the eye color.
the eye color is blue and that's all.
I kinds would prefer Nintendo to keep Princess Peach and Rosalina as different characters :P
Remember what happens in Mario Galaxy? THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE IS RESET!!!!! and Roselina herself confirmed that it has happened several times. So it is quite possible that Roselina is in fact Princess Peach and Mario's daughter.
Princess Peach is not Rosalina's mother it's just a ref plus the dress is a mix of Frozen and Rosalina
Let gooo lol 😂
Frozen is based on the lead actress' previous role in Wicked that was a huge stage release in Japan, and Elfaba is specifically turned green in that novel to both hide and highlight the fact of her being illegitimate child to the most respected man in the kingdom, the Wizard. THE NAME of the Nintendo movie that revealed SMB3.
And if there's any question about the impact of wicked, both Harry potter and Naruto are based on it. It's more influential than Zorro is through Batman. Or Ninjas are to the succeess of Batman, considering USA didn't ahve enough cultural legacy to invent a concept like that without Spanish and Japanese influence, going so far as to not even HAVE Cowboys AT ALL. That archetype is from translation of Japanese and Italian movies like Magnificent Seven based on The Seven Samurai. Never in history were Guns at Noon a cowboy thing, it was just samurai iaido battles.
Through Seven Samurai Kurosawa also influenced Studio Ghibli and movies like Princess Mononoke and The Flight of Dragons, which is basically the unofficial pregual to Twilight Princess the same way CONSTANT ripoff sequels are documented by Phelan Porteous.
@@Thatgirljesi11yeahWhat's the matter, it's true, Princess Peach, she's not Rosalina's mother, it's a false theory.
@@Princesse_Peach_la_meilleure I was just being silly
@@Thatgirljesi11yeah do you believe the theory?
Mario Galaxy 3?
That's impossible.....
Without watching the video all the way. My explanation for this is that I think they chose a look similar to Rosalina as a symbol. It symbolizes the power Peach has and what she has become. She has become like Rosalina she has that same level of power that Rosalina has. In my opinion , she looks like Rosalina because it symbolizes what she has become with this transformation. It's all just symbolism to symbolize the power level Peach has achieved and the being she is most like now.
This isn’t a connection, the only reason why she’s wearing that dress is because she’s supposed to have transformed/merged with Stella making her look like Stella additionally rosalina is an exact cnp of peach so this doesn’t mean anything
Luigi is a demon
Two things:
1. Super Mario Galaxy 2 is not canon. It's a retelling of the events of the 1st game told by Rosalina.
2. Matpat made a couple of video talking about the relationship between Peach and Rosalina.
Watch the videos:
Part 1
th-cam.com/video/-JcK_Bfe3sw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=N-z_L9yDyo-LLqFz
Part 2
th-cam.com/video/xzWFuEH9HsA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pTCzb-wT14gzAT8Q
Bros nearly 10 years too late
Rosalina is a poor peach clone. Nothing more Nothing less..
I hope Princess peach Showtime gets a second game that could mabey feature Rosalina, because that would be cool
ALSO WHEN THE FRICK WILL ROSALINA GET HER OWN GAME!!!
sparkle peach also makes me think of daisys charged shot in mario strikers charged, where she uses crystals to punch the ball. maybe the princesses all have sparkle versions of themselves that gives them these powers.
Wait We Already Play That One Didn't We?
3:10
But that's just a theory.
Radiant dress
Wow I hope you read my comments today. I won't reaspond to answers but there's some deep sleuthing paying off there.
Is Stella name is Rosalina Japan name
If i didn't beat princess peach showtime then i wkuld be mad at the thumbnail ( feel bad for people due to the spoiler thumbnail that you dant avoid)
Princess peach is not related because sparks give her power and rosalina have her power sit she was baby so i don't think Rosalina and peach related.
I agree with you, You're right
I want Mario Galaxy 3
If this theory is confirmed in the next mario movie I'm gonna faint.
It won’t be
they teasing us too much lately with mario galaxy stuff and references but no mario galaxy 3
Can you type this wach closly æ ø å
No views
But that's just a theory....A game theory.
I finished the game so radiant peach in the thumbnail is spoilers for me but you should wait around 2 months before you put spoilers in the thumbnail
No, Just No :3
You're 9 years too late, sorry man
I haven’t beaten the game yet but no they arent related canonically but they were planed to be earlier i galaxys development
Indeed
Woah, spoilers much?
Cmon Nintendo just confirm that Peach is Rosalina s mother the evidence is right there
No Princess Peach is not Rosalina's mother lol
Radiant peach looking like Rosalina is a bit of a stretch it’s just because the dress is blue and it’s not even the same shade of blue and she has a very different crown her powers aren’t that similar to Rosalina either I highly doubt a connection exists
Under 1 hour 👇🏾
Likebeggar
They're not. It's just a costume
3:05 dude your NOT FUNNY
First