There Is A CRAZY Debate Going On Right Now...
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We really went from “The Wii U is the worst console” to “The Wii U is the best console”. HTF did that happen.
I’m getting wind waker vibes.
The wii u had soul and it allowed us to buy classic games instead of just subscribing. Imagine if instead of the wii u, what we got was a switch but with the wii u's console music and shop and consumer friendliness and layout and charm. Somehow, between 2012 and 2017 Nintendo lost the magic spark that made them nintendo and became just a soulless corporation. Like yeah their games are still good, but the console itself from the lazy and quiet interface to the endless and silent shop always felt phoned in, and the joy con drift confirms it's phoned in because old nintendo was all about controller quality.
@@buffgarfield3231 I’m sick of hearing about that the switch is the best Nintendo and there’s nothing to discuss end of debate.
@@Adamtendo_player_1Man the Nintendo switch for what it is, Is probably one of the best Nintendo consoles out there and sales don't lie
What really ruined the Wii U is Nintendo re-releasing so many games on Switch with updated content. Good for Switch owners, but bad for people who just bought a Wii U and bad for the longevity of the Wii U also. It's great for those games to be available to a wider audience, but there was very little reason to get a Wii U afterwards. The best selling Switch game is a Wii U game after all. If the Wii U had 5-10 more solid exclusives, it could be looked at as a fond retro device one day, but nope. Wii U is only good for modding and installing hundreds of games, playing Wii games, and it's also a decent way to play DS games. We still prefer the Wii U at parties for the most part since everyone remembers the original Wii Sports fondly, but also Wii Party, Nintendo Land, Just Dance, and a few others. Xenoblade Chronicles X is the bomb, but after putting my save file on CEMU there's no looking back to the original Wii U hardware
People hated the wii u when it came out but i never disliked it, i love both of them.
new gen bottom! u luv pp
I don’t think folks hated it, per se. I think they were just confused about the Marketing.
It's honestly so weird
i also love both wii u an switch as well i don't prefer one over another either
The Switch is just a WII U done well with higher performance and you can play almost every game handheld mode.
Just wait 7-8 years or so. People will be looking back on the Switch fondly and saying how amazing it was while trashing Nintendo's current console, like we're seeing with the Wii U and Switch right now. It's just the cycle of nostalgia and the typical "old thing good, new thing bad" mentality. Happens everytime.
Edit: Just wanted to tag this on. People can tout whatever advantages the Wii U has over the Switch all they want. That console almost single-handedly put Nintendo out of the home console race, to the point where Iwata had to cut his paycheck in order to make sure that his employees actually got decent pay and would keep their jobs. The Wii U was a dark and desperate time for Nintendo as a company, and no amount of "soul" or "charm" will change that.
it happens with literally everything, one of these days we're gonna get hit with the "ok zoomer"
Yeah there probably is a bias in saying that the Wii U was better.
Best comment ever that is exactly what is going on! Like people buying Gramophones and Walkmans as they have “richer” sound. It’s lame but it is never going to stop!
I think Nintendo will make an extraordinary next console. People will love it more than switch
Of course, they're right, it's not just nostalgia, time and time again, everything is always degrading until it gets replaced.
F*ck the "Wii U (vs) Switch" debate ! Both consoles are awesome and have procured tons of fun memories to their players despite their flaws !
Mama mia this is an underrated comment
@@Itsa-me-weegeetrue
Console wars just went a whole ‘nother level
Same here!
Why censor?
this is a side affect of nintendo not giving us a crumb on what there working on.
Why would they? Do you own the company?.
It'sa so that we will be super shocked and excited for when they release their games!
Splatoon 3 was announced 2 years early and Side Order a year early
@@toumabyakuya
”hey I wish the chef would give us the menu so we can know what they are making ahead of time to see if it’s worth us sitting in this restaurant”
“why would they? Do you own the restaurant?”
@@Agent-iq3sz Ok, ok, I misunderstood, sue me.
Man, why is everybody so rude online as of late?.
The wii u is my favorite console of all time there I said it
Same here
I think both are good but splatoon 1 brings it up a bit
Wii U gang forever!
I eat the cotton candy from my walls
Wii u
Where was all this Wii U love when the Wii U was actually around?
Wii U was the end of the golden era. Wii and DS was the Gen Z golden era
I guess that is an interesting way to look at it.
I think the 3DS was also part of our golden era
@@junedabat Agree. The 3DS was goated.
That's true, the Wii U ended the golden era and filled it with mediocrity. The Switch was the start of the Platinum era
Wii U ❌️
Nintendo Switch ❌️
Wii U & Nintendo Switch ✅️
THIS NEEDS MORE LIKES COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wii U & Nintendo Switch ❌
piracy✅
@@banticore Nintendo ninjas are coming 😭
I have both but Wii U is modded
Nintendo Switch hands down.
The majority of the gaming community for Nintendo games suddenly care about the wii u? Weird ain't it. Once Nintendo announced the online compatibility of the wii u was to be removed, the console that was one of the worst selling and critically, commercially flopped and panned by most gamers! Oh now you care! Because the old adage of "you won't know what you've got till it's gone".
This ^
What I don't get about this debate is that some people think that one of these consoles has to be bad.
No one is perfect, really.
To me, console, handheld is just console, handheld to me.
The only thing is as long it goes well.
The only problem is the price, like PS5 it's $899 in my country New Zealand.
And the switch oled was only $629, cheaper than PS5. Even PS4 cheaper than PS5.
People who liked the Wii U liked the backwards compatibility with Wii games
I actually love the Wii U but have almost never touched that mode because I have an original Wii that I use.
realized i read this wrong ignore this
You know I did, I thought we sold the Wii, but apparently not so when we sold the Wii U, the Wii came back😂
The Wii U was what I had in 2022. I played through botw and Metroid prime (prime trilogy was $19.99 on Wii U eshop(autocorrect doesn’t like me saying eshop🫤))
I think that's a bit unfair to say, Many people liked virtual console and the great games on Wii u, although they were few in number
The might of Nostalgia. That's why.
It had personality. That’s why.
NO ONE owned a Wii U. What nostalgia????
@@tulip811😂 trye
@@tulip811I did🙏🙏
@@tulip811 the nostalgia is obviously from people who did own it, genius. The extreme minority who bought a failed console always valorise them.
Nintendo got too comfortable at the top after the knockout success of the Wii. They forgot why the Wii was a success in the first place, which is because it appealed to everybody. Nintendo just figured that people who own a Wii will buy a Wii U because it is the next console. The Wii U era really humbled them, and they came out of it better than ever with the release of the Switch.
they really tried to pull a apple fr
They came out of it by making another WiiU and calling it the Switch.
I'm just glad people started to appreciate the Wii U more. As it should have been since... well, ever
It´s much too late now though...As allways. People didn´t know what they had..,.I stil remember Reggie who once said "What´s wrong with you?"
Haha. So fitting even in 2024 for many people.
True
The console is dead already and it's impossible to buy digital games on it.
@@cedrikthibert7033 pretendo network
Bro did not just say origami King is pretty much the same as sticker star💀
Yeah The Origami King was peak
He meant that it’s similar, in which it is. Both games are more exploration based rather than combat based, they have the same paper craft world artstyle and have a ton of gimmicks involving paper
@@RenardioMFG but the DRASTICALLY better story, form of travel (instead of level select), world, special villains, special characters you meet along the way, gameplay, fighting, animation, helper (teammate), and dialogue are all things superior in origami king.
Both are bad, who cares
@@MrX3rt true, but still, the latest 3 games in the series are similar in a lot of ways
The debate is hilarious cuz if even a quarter of the people that are saying WIiu was actually goated and better than the Switch actually bought one the sales would have been better.
Well remember the numbers are only recorded up to like 2017. You then have people buying afterward which then accounts for a lot more. I was originally one of the people to say, "Why would I need a Wii U, my Wii does everything" and how gullible I was until after I bought one. Then I bought not one, but two switches one modded one not... and I still say the Wii U is better.
@@AlexanderScott66 Not saying you're wrong but I don't understand this viewpoint, especially looking at it now.
The Wii U only had a handful of decent games, some were ported to the Switch which became the better, definitive versions, and others had better sequels on the Switch. The Switch has better third party support, and there's a bunch of uniquely amazing games on the Switch. You can even use the Switch portably or keep it docked if you'd like. The Joycons are comfier than the gamepad, plus the gamepad became an often time intrusive gimmick that actually harmed some games like Star Fox Zero.
The only couple of things the Wii U had over the Switch were Miiverse, the eShop and Virtual Console, and those're gone now. It had charm... But the Switch was more accessible and faster. I just don't quite understand the opinion people have that the Wii U's better than Switch.
Edit: Also quick note, I looked up to see if Wii U sales stopped being recorded around 2017 and onwards and didn't find anything. What I did find, was that in September 2023, one person got a Wii U in the US, with the last recorded (US) sale being in May of 2022. That was so out of the ordinary and so alarming that there were dozens of articles about it. That kinda proves that people just haven't been buying Wii Us since 2017/2018
I think you can’t compare the WiiU and the Switch, because at the time Nintendo also handled the 3DS. In contrary the switch is a hybrid so if you want to compare it correctly you need to compare it with the WiiU and 3DS.
crazy how you need to compare one thing to two completely different Systeams
That’s much better. The switch blows the Wii U out of the water and it’s not even close. Include the 3ds however…
The Wii U and 3DS are two completely seperate consoles, it's not like you get a free 3DS when you purchase a Wii U. Each one should be be judged seperately in comparison to the Switch, the 3DS, while an amazing system, does not make up for the Wii U's failures.
The switch has sold 50 million more units than the WiiU and 3DS compared and probably will be the worlds best selling video game console of all time. I am sure someone will tell me about the charm of the WiiU😂
@@atb8660it only sales so well because of kids and second the wii u so worse because of the bad marketing
3:34 Luigi‘s mansion 4!?!
Pretty sure he meant “3”.
@@silviafernandez3868 nah he's secretly a developer at nintendo who spreads propaganda about the next console
INTERESTING!!!!
@@8rbit that would make a lot of sense lmao
he also said crafted world was on Wii U a little earlier than that moment
For giggles, I'm just gonna copy and paste my take on this debate from elsewhere.
Basically...
Folks are on INSANE copium with trying to say the Wii U Era was better than the Switch Era.
Because I feel like they're just people who are HEAVILY misremembering that period out of nostalgia for its few bangers... or people who are salty at the Switch, but actually were not with Nintendo enough to understand what came before it.
Now to give Wii U credit... its main advantages are definitely Aesthetic and Online. As it can't be denied that it has a lot of menu personality, that Switch just doesn't have. And that energy was also present in some of Nintendo's presentations. (Though granted, I feel like people don't understand that Nintendo's "quirky skits" were VERY hit or miss, and didn't actually address the system's bigger issues... But I digress...)
Plus, actually OWNING retro games instead subscribing to a paid service for them is far better. With free online to boot.
But when we take a look at the actual games both systems can offer... this is where everything falls apart.
Yes, Switch got a lot milage out of ports of Wii U's games, and remastering or remaking games from other generations...
But fact of the matter is... not only are many of those ports the definitive versions of those Wii U games, AND said refreshs of other games are often REALLY good, but Switch's own unique games are some of the best Nintendo has made. With far more hits than misses. And that's just an objective fact.
And unlike with Wii U, where you had to wait months to get a killer exclusive like those... Switch pumps them out at a pretty great rate by comparison... and I mean, by comparison that we didn't need to wait almost entire seasons for games lol.
And yes, let's also just ignore that Switch covers franchises and genres that Wii U needed months and sometimes YEARS to get to. Yeah Wii U had BOTW too, but it was at the end of its life. It got Splatoon 1, but it was near the end of its life span.
It didn't have a mainline Kirby, Metroid, or Animal Crossing. While Switch covers those series, and has MULTIPLE installments for them. Like how yes, it has Xenoblade X... But Switch has the whole main Xenoblade trilogy.
But when we talk 3rd party support. Hoooooo boi. Its a WRAP. I'm surprised the video didn't hammer this in more.
Because 3rd party support for Wii U faded to crumbs almost i m m e d i a t e l y after its first year.
It got so bad, INDIE DEVS were talking about how they didn't want to bring over games. INDIES. Surprised we got the few we did like Shovel Knight. Because otherwise, you were just fresh out of luck almost if you wanted anything other than Nintendo games. And even those felt sparce because of how Wii U felt like it would barely put enough of them out.
As to where with Switch, do I really gotta explain how much more varied the 3rd party support is? How much more consistently Nintendo puts out their games now that they understand HD development better? Like come the heck on man...
Anyway. Sorry for the long comment. This video itself was a neat breakdown.
But can the Switch play Wii or Gamecube games, emulated or native? How many are cloud gaming? How many on the Switch look absolutely terrible even by handheld standards? How many are just ports of Wii U games? How many of those ports drop features?(NSMBU Deluxe dropping the Boost Challenges and Boost mode, or BotW dropping the Gamepad map) Most of the 3rd party games are completely unstable and or look like dogshit, even TotK doesn't run stablely.
@@AlexanderScott66 Many of those are legit issues with the Switch, but none of them refute any of my actual points in favor of the system... and most CERTAINLY do not excuse Wii U's shortcomings.
Like goddamn my man! I would've loved your support back when I was actually a diehard about the Wii U myself.
@knux333jw Most of the problems with the Wii U stem from poor marketing, and then Nintendo didn't help matters by not releasing many games for it, giving noone a reason to buy it and turn their opinion around. The closest they got was Splatoon and Mario Maker that got people buying it, but it was too little too late. Now, if they pumped out those games, BotW, and a Metroid or Kirby game at launch or within the first year, then I can guarantee the console would have succeeded leagues better.
Which isn't really a problem with the console itself, in fact the graphics were about comparable to PS3/Xbox360 Graphics, and the CPU wasn't too shabby either, so developers definitely could port those games over with little to no loss in quality. However, the Switch is significantly weaker than PS4, so porting over any games are going to come with a lot of drawbacks, which is what you see with the MANY problems in nearly every 3rd party game. Most 3rd party games are CPU intensive, but the Switch is really only decent in the GPU department. And no matter how good you're GPU is, if your CPU is bad, you're still gonna get a lot of shadowing errors, pixelation, and graphical errors. The Wii U balanced it for the most part so you could have a good looking game that ran well, but the Switch leaned so heavily in the graphics and the cpu is such dogshit that it bottlenecks.
I’m a big fan of both consoles, but honestly, I think a lot of the arguments favoring the Wii U are based on potentially a lot of people not remembering a lot of the bad business decisions Nintendo made during the Wii U’s days of relevancy or the ridiculously slow rate we got games for it (except for maybe 2014), are ignoring them because they’re no longer an issue and they want to focus on stuff like the main menu (which I can agree is a step back aesthetically) or the games with the free update model, or were just not there when it all happened. I love both consoles but I can see why the Switch got the spotlight way more.
The slow releases were based on people not buying it in the first place. It was all down to poor marketing, which doesn't reflect on the quality of the console. And even then, there were still more new games on Wii U than Switch when comparing the ratio of unique AAA games to total AAA games when you get rid of cloud gaming, ports, remakes, NSO, etc. on both ends. The Switch is almost entirely comprised of that stuff, even getting rid of two features of NSMBU for the port(boost mode, and boost challenges), meanwhile, the Wii U had: NSMBU+LU, Splatoon, SMM1, Captain Toad, BotW, Nintendo Land, 3d World. Switch has Odyssey, Wonder, TotK, Kirby Star Allies, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, and I guess Bowser's Fury, if you want to consider that as a game). When it comes to backward compatibility after homebrewing, Wii U can play EVERY game prior to it, except Virtual Boy, 3ds and the 8 DSi exclusives at 60fps(though there is a homebrew emulator for virtual boy). Switch can play up to GBA and n64 at 60fps when docked. Overclocking it barely allows DS games to run at 30 fps, and Wii and Gamecube games barely run, period without having to be built from the ground up so it can run.
Edit: Also note that TotK can barely play 30fps in handheld or 60fps when docked and actually NEED overclocking to run them at a steady framerate.
@@AlexanderScott66if you're going to gauge emulation quality, keep in mind that we're comparing a decade-old console that's no longer supported to a 7-year old console that's still being supported and protected. The former is going to look better by default because hackers have much more time to make tailored emulators without Nintendo breathing them down. Performance is rarely a hardware problem as much as it is a developer problem.
@@lukebytes5366 No, the Wii U has it's own built in emulator to run it's DS, N64, NES, etc. games. That's not homebrewed in. And also emulators are very much a hardware problem because you need a lot more resources to emulate than just running it on the system itself.
7:14 “Kid Friendly”
Who’s gonna tell him about all the things that went down on Miiverse
People like the WiiU now💀?
Only a small number of people and only because it makes them feel special to play an inferior machine
always have been.
they switch up 😂
The Wii U gamepad is just so satisfying and comfortable to hold and use.
I agree but it takes a few minutes to adapt. Better than joycons though. I stuffed my Wii U and game pad in a backpack many times and still have no drift.
Yeah this is a legitimate thing the WiiU was better on, however i bought a grip and had no problem sonce
Yessir
Unironically one of my favorite controllers
It was clunky and heavy and the button layout was atrocious, plus poor battery life. The joycons on the other hand are light, comfortable, had a longer battery life, and had button layouts that were erganomic. Yeah they got drift, eventually, even the Wii U's capeable of that, but there's fixes for it, or just buy another pair. Their cheaper than the gamepad.
Plus if one of the joycons stops working, just use the opposite from another set, easy.
Let's not forget that the Wii U could be playable on two separate screens, meaning we could play neat games like Nintendo Land's Mario Chase or alike that. The Switch is though very nice to just pick up and play miles away from everything else.
To be fair, that "Play on two separate screens" was an annoying gimmick that kinda ruined some games like Star Fox Zero
I think its funny how when the Wii U was out, people hated on it and the games they released. ...Now people are praising it? Something doesn't seem right, chief.
As much as I love the Wii U I do have to correct these people, neither of those consoles were the golden era for Nintendo, the Wii was the golden era for Nintendo, don't tell me otherwise.
The Wii, is in fact, on top
Yep the Wii was awesome!
@@SBGamingPlus still to this day I think the Wii had some of the best Games ever made.
@@theterribleclaw4285 Facts! I remember playing Super mario galaxy 2 and wii sports when I first got the wii, good times indeed
@@SBGamingPlus even games like New Super Mario Bros Wii are loved by fans.
i never had a wii u growing up, but playing those wii u games were amazing on switch, and paper mario color splash was amazing hands down. overall a great console with great games.
I’m sorry if I read this comment wrong but paper Mario color splash was never on switch
My best memories with the Wii U was be there when my neighbour got hers from our local Source store and we played super Mario 3D world with our friends it was fun. I can’t pick which console is better
It's like what job you want.
6:05 Did you know that the designers of the Nintendo 3DS and Wii U system UIs also lead the Splatoon franchise? Seita Inoue, Hisashi Nogami, and Toru Minigeshi.
As much as I miss the personality of the Nintendo 3DS and Wii U UIs, the Switch's UI though is faster. Though I do have problems with the Switch UI, it lacks the ability to message your friends, it lacks pre-installed features (like Game Notes and the Join Game feature), and always has the order as your most recent played game instead letting you customize your order.
After Iwata’s passing, I really feel like the direction for design in UI and customization updates shifted heavily. The avatars are a homage to tradition, but are also just sort of a namesake without the flare that draws users in.
The switch’s ui is faster but ONLY the main ui, if you want to use the eshop that’s a different story
Ok but I have to say the switch most likely has better hardware which is most likely the reason
And I don’t see a reason as to why there couldn’t atleast be a calm music for the menu
@@scpnoobers Or heaven forbid download anything. So many hoops to jump through to make it install at any more than 500mb/s, seriously, it's slow as absolute balls to install anything on switch
I don't think this is a fair comparison. Really it should be the Wii U + 3DS vs Switch
Should he redo this video?
Well no because you don’t get a free 3DS when you purchase a Wii u so the combined cost of those is far greater than the switch so it wouldn’t change much, maybe just a video abt the 3DS on its own?
I NEVER thought I would see the day the Wii U was defended by a large amount of people. I was an original fan, I couldn't understand why people hated it. Today, I think that the Wii U was great. It had backwards compatibility, had ported games from before the Wii that you could buy, the online service cost like a quarter or something, it had Miiverse, and the games utilized the gamepad to tv gimmick. It was an amazing console. The only thing that makes the switch better in my opinion is the luxury of having a portable home console, upgraded graphics, and better shop for indie games. Other than that, the Wii U slapped. I will say that it does upset me that some hated the Wii U without really giving it a try, or are only shifting opinions because they wanna hop on the bandwagon. FYI: I'm talking specifically about the console and its capabilities. I love the games on both consoles dearly.
No the online on Wii U was actually free.
@@user-md7er6xe2z Mb, I remember it costing like 25 cents for life.
@@omegagamerex2148 Maybe I don't remember paying for online back then. I know the online for 3DS was 100% free though.
nah wii u online was free
The Switch has by far the better games lineup but the WII U had better online offerings which was also free. I still have fond memories of spending lots of time in Miiverse chatting with people and you could send messages to your friends.
Funny how back then everyone called the Wii U trash
The Wii U is better but stay at home. Switch is better because we can play even on the go
I pulled the master sword(botw) at an airport terminal on my Wii U.
@@joeeggleston7879 must have been uncomfortable
sorry, I like the switch but the Wii U really gives that creative Nintendo charm, like the n64’s design or the Wii or GameCube, where there was music, new designs, and the Wii U having a gamepad and kind of bringing the DS idea to TVs were amazing. Sure the switch has more power and stuff but the Wii U was awesome, just horribly marketed. I get the name since “Wii” was to let causal gamers know yes, this is like the Wii, while the U was meant for YOUR expectations, for the more hardcore gamers, but they could’ve done better naming. But yeah, i like the switch but let’s all not shame the Wii U or Switch.
Even with great marketing it would have been a failure, you can’t polish a turd
@@atb8660 And why would it be a faliure? Just asking. And let’s focus on the timeline of it instead of comparing it to the switch then.
@@ilikelemonheads101 I mean it’s not a terrible console but it was a commercial failure and the reason is deeper than just the cringe marketing (although it did not help). The Wii was successful because of a gimmick and most of those people had moved on to other things. Both Xbox one and Nintendo WiiU tried to keep those casual people through gimmicks and making it a hub for the living room but it was too late they had gone. They were severely punished by hardcore gamers and because the Xbox could keep up in terms of power they did better than the WiiU (50 million to 13 million units). The genius of the switch was to provide a handheld that you could play on your TV, customers immediately could understand it and knew why they wanted it
@@atb8660 ah, that makes sense. but if Nintendo did just do better advertising and naming I bet more people would’ve got to experience one of Nintendo’s best consoles (in my opinion since it’s a GameCube, Wii and Wii U in one because even though Wii mode can’t play GameCube games it still runs it natively) and the gamepad was a cool controller I like the addition of turning a DS into a home console. The switch is cool but they are lacking the little things that the Wii u had since they want to put so much Wii u things on the switch y’know?
If I could have the Wii U interface and music along with the Switch’s catalogue of games, that would be perfect
What debate? Sounds like revisionism. The Wii U was a catastrophic failure for Nintendo.
Revisionism is a good way to put it. Not many people actually liked the Wii U's library until half of the games were re-released on Switch because most of the games on the Wii U were things you would have in addition to your regular 3D Marios or new Zeldas.
I pretty much agree with this point. Just wanted to point out though that the catastrophic failure part was definitely heavily influenced by the way nintendo marketed it, even if it still would have sold pretty poorly.
@@gameplayboy5686 I mean it could have certainly beaten the Gamecube
Failure for Nintendo does not mean a bad product, it just means they treated it terribly.
@@NottJoeyOfficial Failure means exactly what OP us referreing to. It sold terribly and was still behind the graphics /CPU performances of PS4 and Xbox One.
Come on, Wii U brought many memories, but the switch is just TOO popular.
wii u better
@@jimwith2ms391 cuz of memories tho
@@CHTVskits wii 🗿
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@@CHTVskits GameCube 🗿
Team Wii U...
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i have a WiiU i never got a nintendo switch it always seemed boring to me and im fine with the wii games
should i buy one?
I think they will be releasing a new console this year or next so I say wait
To add on the other reply, depending on if the next nintendo console has backwards compatibility with the switch or not.
If not perhaps get a switch to play all the switch originals... it will most likely drop in price once the next console comes out.
If the next nintendo does have switch backwards compatibility get that. There is some great gems on switch that are worth getting that thing for
Yes if you want 10x the games then yes buy a switch or you can play the same 10 year old games on a tablet that looks like a Fisher Price toy for toddlers, your choice
You’re missing out on the better system, but I could care less whether or not you buy a switch. I’m enjoying my switch and at some point I will buy you but it’s not a priority for me because it’s the inferior system but I still want one because it has good games.
I can’t forget the joy I felt when that pikmin 4 reveal trailer dropped.
Im gonna act like a parent:
I love both my children equally
*switch leaves the room* “You are better”
lol
I Think both Mario 3D World and Odyssey are Both equally Great Mario Games! I still remember playing on my Cousins Wii-U and Play MK8 Deluxe on my Switch!
The Wii-U and Switch are both amazing even if the Wii-U flopped, It's still amazing!
The arguments are (almost… I have to specify) the sides of who had and used a Wii U vs who didn’t. I agree with the (current) top comment that they’re both great in their own ways. Thirteen million childhood memories is still a lot.
Most of my memories of the Wii U were painful, the games never did anything to really cheer me up. I had the console but the games did jack all to distract me from life.
Fast forward to the Switch and it's the opposite, every banger coming out of it's making me feel like I'm on cloud 9
To put it shortly… The WiiU was a better console… but, the switch had more games!…
As will happen when you run almost twice the lifespan and port all your last gen games over... And then make users pay extra to play old games. When you factor in homebrewing, the Wii U actually has a similar number of if not more games since it can play it's games and all other games ever made with it's built in software, and Virtual Boy with a homebrew emulator. Switch can only play the few Switch exclusives, ports of select Wii U, Wii, and Gamecube games, and then the catalog of N64, GBA, GB, NES, and SNES games. Most of the 3rd party are cloud gaming or run terribly and you're actually better off running them off a Raspberry Pi of all things. No DS, can barely run other Wii and Gamecube games. Meanwhile, Wii U gets ALL of: GB, GBC, GBA, DS, NES, SNES, N64, Wii, Gamecube, and Wii U games, with homebrew VB emulator.
@@AlexanderScott66 If the switch two comes out and does have dual screens this won’t be a problem anymore
@DawstheYTBoss It still needs the power to run those games those. The Switch doesn't even have the power to run Wii or GameCube games, even on the Wii U, dual screens wasn't what made them run, and you could run them on just the gamepad.
@@AlexanderScott66 True, true…
Keep up the good work
I never owned a Wii U, but at least you didn’t have to pay for online
Nice one
Is it opposite day today or something?
Nah Wii u is great
where were yall 10 years ago with this wii u praise energy 💀
They are all the Wii U fans that bought the console.
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If the Switch had the Wii U’s software (not exactly, just something similar) (a home menu with an actual personality, Miiverse, backwards compatibility, free fucking online) it’d be the perfect Nintendo console
And better joycons. Those things are absolute dogshit.
Oh bore off you cheapskate The Wii U was and that’s what’s more important.
The Wii U has a Web browser that worked really well and the very best TH-cam app
I went through GameCube to Switch era and so far yes Wii U was a good console but the Switch sky rocket Nintendo to a new golden age!
we already reached the stage of wii u nostalgia?
To be fair. The Co-op on Wii U was nice because it doesn't involve splitscreen
I got the Wii U version of BOTW along with the DLC back in the day, I don't own the Switch version and plan to because Im not someone who buys the same Game twice, the same goes for Remakes and Remasters with only two exceptions Wind Waker HD because I don't own the GameCube version, and Skyward Sword HD because I love Skyward Sword and I'll buy any version Nintendo gives us.
I emulate the WiiU and still use a WiiU pro controller for steam games with an adapter does that count?
I do miss the wahoo for the Wii u and 3ds. All the VC games. Old school nes, snes, Gameboy, GBA, N64, Wii, and DS and I think I had Sega games too
I liked the Wii U, but it lacked a good library. No mainline Animal Crossing, no Metroid, no mainline Fire Emblem, no proper battle mode in Mario Kart, no mainline Zelda until the Switch released, and little third party support.
Even some of the games we got were questionable, such as Mario U or Game and Wario. Also, despite being a great game, 3D World felt like it was supposed to be a supplementary title to a real 3D Mario.
I mean, you have to consider not just the Wii U games but also the Wii games :)
Also BotW was a Wii U title, heck the Sheikah Tablet literally IS the Wii U Gamepad, and the gamepad ought to display the map.
@CathrineMacNiel That's why I said "no mainline Zelda until the Switch released." We knew about a Zelda game coming out on the Wii U since around 2011 or 2012, got announced E3 2014, then got delayed a couple times with the Switch version being the reason for the last delay. As for backwards compatibility, yes it was nice to play Wii games on the Wii U, but having to play games with the classic controller and not the wii U pro controller was annoying. Too many accessories to get the best out of the console.
Cause they were on 3ds
@@crunchyblend8809 Irrelevant because both Wii and DS had Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing.
Me personally I like the WII U more because of its vibes like the eshop music, MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS, and more like Miiverse. The Switch felt boring to me but I liked it. However, without the switch, nintendo would be a failed company
Internet browser is not on switch 😂
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The Switch is a better product, but I feel the Wii U had more care put into it. I play my Switch to play Switch games. I play my Wii U for the experience. I understand both sides of the argument. I just wish that Nintendo's next console will have more charm put into it while still being an objectively good product.
The Wii U has a special place in my heart and it continues to be #1 with features that were passed down from the Wii, the Switch is not bad, but, it doesn’t hit as hard the Wii U did. Still, they both have good libraries to play with.
Wii U was more memoriable with best games out there. Switch is just a port machine not just Wii U games.
Breath of the Wild, Snipperclips, Splatoon 2, Arms, Xenoblade 2, Mario Odyssey, Kirby Star Allies, Fire Emblem Three Houses, Nintendo Labo, Super Mario Party, Smash Ultimate, Mario Tennis Aces, Mario Maker 2, Ring Fit Adventure, Luigi's Mansion 3, Pokemon Sword/Shield Animal Crossing New Horizons, Clubhouse Games, Paper Mario the Origami King, Age of Calamity, Bowser's Fury, Game Builder Garage, Mario Golf Super Rush, Warioware Get it Together, Metroid Dread, Pokemon Legends Arceus, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Mario Striker Battle League, Xenoblade 3, Splatoon 3, Bayonetta 3, Pokemon Scarlet/Violet, Fire Emblem Engage, Tears of the Kingdom, Pikmin 4, Detective Pikachu Returns, Mario Wonder, Warioware Move it, Princess Peach Showtime:
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@@Crafty_boy70 You named a few good ones, some unfinished ones and some trash ones.
@@CuteRedPanda64 most of the mare good though, and either way it doesn't matter, it outnumbers the Wii U's library absolutely, even if you don't count the bad ones!
@@Crafty_boy70 Eeeeeeehhhhh.
@@CuteRedPanda64 well let's put it this way, in it's lifespan (bit more than 4 years) the Wii U got about 30 original (non-remake) games, excluding very small releases such as Star Fox Guard. In the same 4-year timeframe, the Switch got around 25 original games (again, excluding very minor releases and Nintendo Labo) but the 4th year was 2020, so a lot of games planned for that year got delayed to 2021 and 2022. So yeah, they're pretty close!
I'm not going to try to argue game quality as that can get subjective and I do not want to get into that, but I will say that I prefer the Switch's library.
Wii U is better simply because of Yoshi's Woolly World.
Because Yoshi's Crafted World is bad, and Yoshi's Woolly World is a masterpiece.
*plays TOTK and Legends Arkoos*
Nevermind.
What if whenever you turned on your console it would recommend a game that you haven't played in a while or that you play often like a easily accessible favourites tab without the silly groups at the end of the scroll of games like on the switch
It kinda does on the second screen
But the WII U didn’t have the worlds worst stick drift
2 words: JOYCON DRIFT
STREETPASS ON THE 3DS BABY!!!!
I don't know, I prefer the Wii U.
They both have Captain Toad
That’s all I need
I didn’t know Luigi’s mansion 4 was on the switch 3:35 😂
Imao, part of why the switch sold more is because even with different profiles, it’s more of a personal console, so families with three kids buy one for each of them (and same for the ds)
Wii u had profiles too dummy
Wii U beats the Switch any day!
Playing older Nintendo consoles is makes u realize how mid the switch is
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Wiiu could of been better if it had better advertising and if they kept it running with new games for longer
Not to mention they should have toned it down a bit with the motion controls. Looking at you star fox zero.
As much as I love the Wii U, and it was my favorite console of it's time, the switch just has so much, and in combination with being hybrid it's the closest thing to a definitive gaming experience.
Ok but like the 3ds and 2ds tho-
Streetpass time
My sister said that the WiiU was “literally the worst Nintendo console” until I showed her the virtual boy
I would be, if they hadn't forgot ARMS was a thing!
3:35 Excuse me? Luigi's Mansion 4? Where has that been my whole life?
You straight up missed so many hardware features of the Wii U...
The gamepad had a mic, camera, and IR blaster to control the TV, and the system was backwards compatible with Wii discs and also Wii accessories. Tonnes of controller options, proper pointer controls with the sensor bar, and the controllers are better than Switch's. The Joy Cons are the worst controllers Nintendo have ever made. They're cheap, not ergonomic and are prone to drift.
The Wii U had way more character than the Switch just like the 3DS does. Sure, there are collectively more games on the Switch because of all the ports, but the interface, apps and features feel incredibly bare bones compared to the Wii U.
And the 3DS also had tons of hardware like the cameras and the 3D, and backwards compatible too
Most of those things were pretty niche and not too many people cared about them. I'd rather have a console that I can take anywhere, and can put to sleep without turning off, over something that has a mic, camera or IR blaster that I'd rarely use. Plus the backwards compatibility with the Wii only worked if you had a working Wii sensor bar + Wii remotes.
I can also navigate the menus on the Switch easier than the Wii U's that kept lagging, and games load faster on the Switch which to me, matters as much as the charm of the Wii U.
The controllers weren't great... But the Wii U gamepad sucked. It was clunky, heavy, uncomfortable to hold, and introduced a forced gimmick that straight up soured the experience of some games like Star Fox Zero. The joycons were light, comfy, and I loved how you could slip them into the Switch's gamepad OR slip it into an actual controller. It had its issues, but they weren't that bad, and were the result of the joycons degrading over time. A problem easily fixable by getting another pair eventually.
Heck the games on the Switch were far better than the Wii U's games. Each of the Wii U's games were bad or compromised, the Switch's were just... Good
@@hunterkeps9058 I'm sorry, but I feel like we're talking about different consoles here. Your take has a very fanboyism tone to it. I'm gonna guess you didn't actually own a Wii U because half of what you're saying is backwards, which I can't take seriously.
Yes, backwards compatibility with Wiimotes and the sensor only worked if you had them, obviously, but the thing is most people did. If you didn't, they were cheaper than Joycons and even some games that needed them came bundled with them. Isn't backwards compatibility a good thing? More options for players, and you can save money, so I don't know why you're trying to find flaws in it. The joycons are expensive for what you get.
Speaking of joycons, how are the joycons comfortable and the Wii U gamepad is uncomfortable? The Wii U gamepad while clunky at least has weight to it and a form factor you can hold comfortably. Proper analog sticks too. It's not meant to be taken outside with you so having a traditional form factor makes sense. The joycons are not ergonomic at all, period. You can't even argue with that because they're literally just flat pieces of plastic. They don't fit into the contours of our hands. They were designed with portability, size and weight in mind, not comfort, and it shows. Compromises were made. The analog sticks are non standard and are smaller, which is why they have been so prone to drift. A solution is to just buy a new pair? You either work for Nintendo or are just in denial. 'Just' buying a new pair to a flawed design is a laughable solution.
Funnily I've never once felt my Wii U was laggy. There's a difference between load times and lag. Wii U can have load times, but the Switch has literal LAG. The eshop is atrociously laggy. The Wii U eshop is undoubtedly a smoother experience.
Each of the Wii U's games were bad? What? The Wii U undoubtedly has a great selection of first party games. How are all these games bad? You're telling me you don't own any of the ports that came out on the Switch? I bet you do, but I guess they must be good now because they're on the Switch right? 😂 Yes, like I said, the Switch has a better library as a whole, but you can't say the Wii U games were bad when a good chunk of the Switch's good games are Wii U ports. If you didn't realize, the Switch's best selling game is a Wii U game🤷
Look, I like my Switch, but it's not without its flaws and there's no problem admitting that. Nintendo focused on certain features but in the process had to compromise in many other areas. Every other Nintendo console before it was an improvement on its predecessor in basically every category (handhelds and home consoles), but the Switch broke that because of its hybrid design. Again, compromises.
@@manbearpig5346 Nup, I got a Wii U, played it for a while, hardly used any of the side features apart from the intrusive ones, and it wasn't all that satisfying.
I'm not tryina say that backwards compatibility's a bad thing, it's great. Just that the Wii U to Wii requires more stuff to work rather than say, a PS2 or PS3, and since my motion sensor bar stopped working, I couldn't access what could've been a great feature, all because Nintendo didn't provide an alternative to move the cursor around. You can't even use it to play Gamecube games.
Again, it's great, IF you can get it to work.
I guess I never got any of the games that required the motion sensor though, so that could've helped.
I just prefer the joycons. I think the weightlessness works to its advantage, always felt the gamepad was just a bit too heavy. Plus, I hated how the gamepad's right analogue stick was above the buttons, that always tripped me up since every other controller does it the opposite way.
And sure the joycons aren't the most ergonomical but they still worked, and I mostly use the joycons with the comfort grip which do fit in my hands contours.
I may have been reaching a bit with saying "Just get a new controller lol". I still think it's a solution if a crappy one, but the drift genuinely sucks. I'd still personally take it over the gamepad though.
I've seen the eShop comparisons and yeah, the Switch's lags. And I Just tested the main menu and you're right, no lag.
However, hopping in and out of games was a different beast. For the Wii U, it took 12~ seconds to boot up, and another 15 secs to get into a game.
As for the Switch, not only is it quick to boot up/start a game, but you can suspend them, making the boot up time even faster.
I didn't elaborate enough on the games. I did like a fair amount of games on the Wii U like SM3DW, Pikmin 3, Smash Bros, NSMBU, and some others, but they all felt... Kinda compromised? Like some of them were good but not all that interesting, or there were some issues that kept them from being great. And yeah there's quite a few games that straight up suck like the MP series, Star Fox, Mario Tennis, Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival.
I'll admit there's a few Switch games that sucked too.
And yes I've gotten quite a few ports, but I take the stance that if a game was ported and improved in any way, then the credit goes to the console that made those improvements. So yes, to me they're Switch games.
I'm glad the Wii U made them in the first place (Again I like them, they're good), but I thank the Switch for improving them, majorly so in some cases. If they were JUST ported without any improvements, I'd give full credit to the Wii U, but most of them had upgrades to their originals.
Fyi I think it's fine even if most of a console's library is just ports. The GBA did great and most of the games are just remakes/ports of NES & SNES games.
The 3ds and Wii U are my 2 favorite consoles. 🤷♂️
11:14 Everything you mentioned was one Nintendo Direct 😂
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Wii U is waaaaay better than switch
Gamecube or N64 is the best. Too bad people have crappy taste.
@@PerfectNull But Wii U can natively play Gamecube games and N64 games.
@@AlexanderScott66 define natively. you can't play gamecube games on wiiu if not modded
@valentds Natively just means that the primary software runs it without additional software to interpret it. VC games require the emulator, Wii U->emulator->VC. Wii U and Wii games run natively because the Wii U's primary software is able to directly interpret it: Wii U->Wii U title or for Wii: Wii U becomes vWii->Wii title. GameCube runs the same way as Wii games(unless it's directly injected via modding, but that's another can of worms)
Or another example. In Windows, if you try to open a brand new file type, it'll ask you "Open with what app?" To which it'll give options like "Notepad" or "Photos". All those programs listed run natively within the Windows OS, the primary software. The file you're trying to open doesn't run natively, it requires a daughter program of the primary software to interpret it: "Notepad" or "Photos". So a .nds file can't run natively on Windows, but a ds emulator can, which in turn interprets the .nds file.
The Wii U software directly can interpret GameCube files, but Nintendo removed the drive that can read it. By injecting the game into a Wii title, it bypasses the drive check because it's a digital title, it changes itself into vWii to run what it thinks is a Wii title, then vWii, now the primary software detects it as a GameCube game and runs it as such.
If this doesn't make sense as to how GameCube runs natively on Wii U, basically GameCube game gets injected into Wii game. That puts a flag on the GameCube title that stock Wii U thinks is a Wii title. Wii U changes to vWii and allocates enough resources to allow it to run the Wii game. vWii boots and reads the file, skipping the flag. vWii recognizes it as a GameCube game and allocates its resources to running as a Gamecube: Wii U becomes vWii->Gamecube
@valentds Natively just means that the primary software runs it without additional software to interpret it. VC games require the emulator, Wii U->emulator->VC. Wii U and Wii games run natively because the Wii U's primary software is able to directly interpret it: Wii U->Wii U title or for Wii: Wii U becomes vWii->Wii title. GameCube runs the same way as Wii games(unless it's directly injected via modding, but that's another can of worms)
Or another example. In Windows, if you try to open a brand new file type, it'll ask you "Open with what app?" To which it'll give options like "Notepad" or "Photos". All those programs listed run natively within the Windows OS, the primary software. The file you're trying to open doesn't run natively, it requires a daughter program of the primary software to interpret it: "Notepad" or "Photos". So a .nds file can't run natively on Windows, but a ds emulator can, which in turn interprets the .nds file.
The Wii U software directly can interpret GameCube files, but Nintendo removed the drive that can read it. By injecting the game into a Wii title, it bypasses the drive check because it's a digital title, it changes itself into vWii to run what it thinks is a Wii title, then vWii, now the primary software detects it as a GameCube game and runs it as such.
If this doesn't make sense as to how GameCube runs natively on Wii U, basically GameCube game gets injected into Wii game. That puts a flag on the GameCube title that stock Wii U thinks is a Wii title. Wii U changes to vWii and allocates enough resources to allow it to run the Wii game. vWii boots and reads the file, skipping the flag. vWii recognizes it as a GameCube game and allocates its resources to running as a Gamecube: Wii U becomes vWii->Gamecube
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It really doesn't matter which is better, because the answer will change depending on who you ask and what criteria they personally care about the most. But there is still value in comparing the two. They represent very different eras for Nintendo and we want Nintendo to learn from them to help make their next console the best it can be.
I agree on the directs back then vs now. I Miss the older e3 shows.. the seriousness. But also the fun. And funny.
The switch has almost all the Wii U Nintendo published games on the Switch and faster load times.
Cartridges always have faster loading times as discs
@@therealjaystone2344 not even that, the UI is just slow
@@MinVSMaj I am talking about the games itself
@@MinVSMaj unfortunately I think the slow load times of the UI is why nintendo decided to give us the stripped down linux-gui style menu of the switch versus the fancy graphics'd up Apple-gui style menus of the wii u..
I wish Yoshi's Woolly World was there, though.
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One thing the Wii U had over the switch game pad didn’t have stick drift like the joycons did
Also I do really want to play Kirby and the rainbow curse again but lost the game I think and my game pad is broken so I haven’t used my Wii U in a long time I do kinda miss playing on it even if it’s just this one game I want to play again
The thing with Directs is, that its nearly impossible to watch one without being spoiled by leaks WEEKS EARLIER.
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This is the stupidest debate ever
The switch destroys the wii u in almost every single way
This is a stupid debate. We should be comparing the 3ds and Wii U as one to the switch, that makes things much more fair.
Yeah as much as I don't like the bland UI of the Switch even I can not say that Wii U was the better console overall.
Wii u is WAYYYY better and more fun in every way
@@cloudyss1990 I haven’t seen people make such confidently stupid statements since the height of totk hate in december
@@minecrafter3448 the wii u is just more fun just because you don't have friends doesn't mean the console is bad and the switch just sucks
Both are good 🗿
The Wii U felt more like a proper console from Nintendo, what with the zany channels, easy-going music, Miiverse, and all the scattering Miis. The Switch doesn’t have the same level of personality.
The switch has 0 personality outside of that snap noise, I legit think I was more excited turning on windows 98 than the switch.
I have only had my switch for like a year but I had a WiiU since my hands were first big enough to hold a controller. I have so much love and nostalgia and happy memories from the WiiU that I could never forget but in all honesty, the Switch is probably objectively a bit better
I think that most people forget how bad the Wii U era was, it almost killed Nintendo. I will give it this, it did have some good ups in its life, but if you were to relive those days you would remember that for 70% of its life it had nothing. The Wii U had great first party support, but its third party support was a travesty. I’m not saying the Wii U was bad, I genuinely thought it was underrated, but I’m not gonna say it’s better than the switch, because it wasn’t. Now if you don’t believe me go back and look at the Wii U’s life span. Because I guarantee that people will be saying the same thing about the switch when it dies, because this already happened with the Wii when it died.
All I say is in a hypothetical where our memories are erased of both systems and we are then given the details of each system from hardware to the library gamed and are then asked to choose between the two. Without a shadow of a doubt anyone would pick the Switch. I grew up with the Wii U too thats my childhood but I cat see anyone saying that system is superior for the Switch for any other reason other than nostalgia and good memories. Switch has all of WiiUs big first party titles (except Xenoblade Chronicles X) along with its own big and unique original first party titles along with actual 3rd party support, indie titles, and awesome RPGs. And this is more of an opinion but the Switch is superior conceptually as u can take it anywhere and play which 12 year old me thought the Wii U could do when I first got it.
What happened to everyone hating Wii U? 😂. Come on how is this a debate, Switch has Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, Paper Mario Origami King, Kirby and the Forgotten, Pokémon Sword, Shield, Arceus, Scarlet, Violet, Mario Maker 2. Switch is insanely better. Wii U was nice, but not nearly as good
Not to mention Metroid Dread, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Mario Wonder, all 3 mainline Xenoblade Games, as well as the abundance of remakes!
The switch has more than 10000 games and growing the WiiU had around 1800, no competition
Wii U is still good because you could play games on the Wii and some older consoles
@@RedfromMario yes if you like that then yes it’s ok. Personally I prefer new experiences
Breath of the wild was developed for the Wii U and came out on it at the same time
I have both and yeah, the Wii U isn’t a bad as people say it is. In my opinion, it was pretty good, but the ability to easily move the Switch and have better graphics makes the Switch better. The Wii U wasn’t trash necessarily, it was good.
And if you really think about it. .the switch is the Wii u pro . Both had a table. And so many other comparisons.
Yes the Wii U had some great games but I cannot believe that people are actually arguing that Nintendo’s worst selling console is better than it’s best selling console.
It is the worst SELLING console but the console itself isn’t bad. The idea of playing games on tv and on the tablet was mind blowing and on top of that their first party games were some of the best. But unfortunately bad marketing led to bad sells but doesn’t mean the console is terrible. I could see what Nintendo was trying to do.
sales figures are only important to the stakeholders. the Wii U had charm and character, something that the Switch dearly lacks.
@@CathrineMacNiel Sales figures are important to everyone because they keep people employed. The Wii U was a fine system in its own right but that doesn’t negate the fact that the Switch is a far better system and the company’s standard going forward.
@@jabareo it is the better system? That's why all of its internal software is laggy AF, or the joycons can and do suffer from drift? Or that it has a pay to online subscription and also kinda requires a smartphone for proper online services?
@@CathrineMacNielgames, graphics, performance, third party support… the switch is better on every metric