My son independently discovered that waxed paper works wonderfully. It allows patterns to show through, plastic sticks to it well, but also releases decently. It can be reused several times before being discarded and is SUPER cheap.
Same! Devin's passion is infectious, like I don't really care about 3D printing or product design but somehow his videos make me care about those things, because he makes them so interesting.
I traced/filled an image on a (cheap) coloring book page, and it worked really well. The PLA stuck until I needed to remove it. It took some of the page with it, but paper can be easily cleaned off with a wet paper towel (water will dissolve the paper)
The best mat would be to print PLA on a kapton-tape plastered surface in my experience. Silicone also works really well but I like it when it sticks just a little bit so that the workpiece doesn't move.
They make heating pads for gardening or reptile enclosures. Would putting one of these under the surface help with adhesion by creating a makeshift heated bed?
there's this amazing 3D pen artist on yt, and his channels name is SANAGO. He hs this really high quality pen that he makes and sells, and was hoping you would review it. He uses only his pen in all his videos, as well as another one he makes and sells. PLEASE REVIEW THIS PEN.
So given it looks like this video was made over 3 year ago, I just looked up that 3 dollar baking mat. In the time this movie was made to 07/04/2023. The price has increased to 17.99 but with 44% off today it’s 9.99. So in 3 years this has gone up 14 dollars. I can’t imagine what the overall cost to all materials used in this hobby has gone up.
I like to use tracing paper for my designs. It sticks really well, but also peels off without taking anything with it. I really like tracing designs, so tracing paper is perfect! The only downside is, it's disposable, and it warps it a bit, so I don't know if you'd want to use the same piece of paper too many times. I'm pretty sure my fillament is PLA, ('Cause it sticks really well.) so I don't know how ABS would work on it. Thanks for the informational video! If I ever want to get a mat, I now know what to look for!
Just one thing, I've try on glasses.... ! and no problem it's for me the best way ! But + use a fixing spray for drawing on the glass, which allows the filament to stick and come off without problem !
You can try printing on a phone screen protector. For small prints it’s perfect(for pla). It’s clear, and you can bend it a little to pop of the prints.
I literally draw on my phone / tablet screen using it to display reference images (I have glass screen protector and the pen I use does not have a metal tip.... wouldn't try it with a metal tip but as long as you don't overheat your phone with a pound of molten plastic it seems to work great without any obvious damage to my phone.
Don't fret about transparency for tracing. You can always use a art projector for tracing, an overhead projector for larger more detailed art tracing, or a digital projector for more flexible applications like object mapping. Laser projectors are focus free and can be used on oddly shaped surfaces which can work well with the 3D printing pens. I wonder if there are 3D printing brushes for adding varying thicknesses and textures to the widths of a stroke? That would be cool.
So far in my testing at home the ultimate surface ( if you don't need to see reference images thru it) would have to be 25u stainless mesh. It's not something everyone has around, and I suspect any really fine mesh metal screen will work similarly..... it has enough texture to give bite with a bit of squish on your first layer pass, but the mesh is too tight to let it seep I and fuse to the screen, and when it cools it actually comes really close to self releasing! (I just stretch a peice over an old picture frame and it's like having a flex bed when it comes to releasing)
i use blue painters tape on a plexiglass, with PLA. i started with a cd case, but it melted (this was when i was using my 3d printer.) i'm still learning how to use the pen and 3d printer filament.
Okay I have silicon regular Mat a cutting self healing mat can these work too? Have u tried cardboard? Canvas paper? Watercolor paper plexiglass glass?
Hi, what I use with my kids to draw the design on squared paper then use wide cellotape to cover it. While heat damage it you still can remove from it easily and reusable a few times. This way the risk of slipping off your design is gone unlike with transparent thick materials.
Try straight PEI. You should be able to get a 3mm thick sheet on Amazon for about the same price as borosilicate, and it's mostly transparent. (It's fairly yellow.)
I used a silicon baking sheet, cardboard, my desk.... and the pla plastic that came with my pen and that I got from JoAnn's just wouldn't grip ANYTHING. The only thing it gripped was this clear plastic sheet that came with the pen... and it held it so well I couldn't get my little test project off of it.... Am I maybe not putting the pen close enough to the mat?
Distance from the surface can definitely affect how well something sticks and takes practice. What pen and material are you using? ABS shrinks a lot and is much harder to stick to different surfaces
Abs is stronger and more flexible than pla, but it still snaps new a certain mount of pressure. Pla has a lower print temperature. I'd recommend finding a video about the two filaments, I think Thomas Salander might have some videos?
abs produces toxic fumes and should be used with a respirator and/or a serious ventilation system, pla is pretty much nontoxic. pla does not warp significantly when cooling, abs warps all over the place.
ABS does not decompose in bright sunlight as it is mineral in composition. PLA is Poly Lactic Acid, and is organic, it decomposes naturally over a few years, and degrades rapidly, relative to ABS, in sunlight. I live in Queensland, Australia, known as the Sunshine State, and I can attest that PLA degrades very fast when left in a hot car in the sun. Colours fade quickly, and the PLA becomes fragile. ABS outlasts PLA but I don't use it at all now, for the same reasons as Devin stated.
Hey dude!! Big fan. I have been a subscriber since 2017. I really need your help!! A few years ago I bought a 3Doodler create. At first it was working just fine but now it gets clogged up very often, which makes it impossible to use. What should I do??
As a less artistic person, I don't see an alure to these devices. I'd rather design and print an object than try and do it by hand. Am I missing the point of 3D pens, or are they essentially toys?
well, who would use toxic and cumbersome ABS for 3d pens where you literally bent over the molten plastic and inhale it's fumes? PLA is the way to go and your video shows that there're many option for it!
when are you gonna make another cool project like the fabrics and lock mechanism? these videos are important and im glad they exist but they are pretty boring
it's rough getting into this hobby. Do I buy an overpriced chinese knockoff (apparently the popular choice in locak webshiops) or do I buy a higher end product that comes with criminally high (more than half the price of the product, half across the world) shipping costs? All on the off-chance that it'll last a couple of hours or days, then breaks and you're just SOL&JWF~
My son independently discovered that waxed paper works wonderfully. It allows patterns to show through, plastic sticks to it well, but also releases decently. It can be reused several times before being discarded and is SUPER cheap.
Thanks I was about to buy one of these expensive mats !
I don’t even care what the video is about I just enjoy watching them😁
Same! Devin's passion is infectious, like I don't really care about 3D printing or product design but somehow his videos make me care about those things, because he makes them so interesting.
Yea
Same
Same
what about using something like glue on these surfaces? or hair spray? or any other cheap things on ever cheaper surfaces.
Paper?
I’ve seen other people do it.
They just draw a design and draw directly on the paper
I was gonna say cardstock, yeah.
Perhaps wax paper, regular paper just fused to mine, same as his cardboard test
I traced/filled an image on a (cheap) coloring book page, and it worked really well. The PLA stuck until I needed to remove it. It took some of the page with it, but paper can be easily cleaned off with a wet paper towel (water will dissolve the paper)
I use paper but sometimes I do have to scrub off the paper.
You think the cover of a notebook would work?🤔
The best mat would be to print PLA on a kapton-tape plastered surface in my experience. Silicone also works really well but I like it when it sticks just a little bit so that the workpiece doesn't move.
They make heating pads for gardening or reptile enclosures. Would putting one of these under the surface help with adhesion by creating a makeshift heated bed?
there's this amazing 3D pen artist on yt, and his channels name is SANAGO. He hs this really high quality pen that he makes and sells, and was hoping you would review it. He uses only his pen in all his videos, as well as another one he makes and sells. PLEASE REVIEW THIS PEN.
I want his pen but I don’t think he sells it to Americans
@@maggz5442 It looks just like the MYNT Pro 3D Pen. I was actually planning to buy one as I am currently in Korea.
The pen was sold on like a website in Korean and to my country it was like worth $60 - $70
I used to draw straight onto the cardboard box my 3D pen came in lol. It worked pretty well.
I got the 3dmate $40 mat and I'm loving it so far!!
So given it looks like this video was made over 3 year ago, I just looked up that 3 dollar baking mat. In the time this movie was made to 07/04/2023. The price has increased to 17.99 but with 44% off today it’s 9.99. So in 3 years this has gone up 14 dollars. I can’t imagine what the overall cost to all materials used in this hobby has gone up.
I like to use tracing paper for my designs. It sticks really well, but also peels off without taking anything with it. I really like tracing designs, so tracing paper is perfect! The only downside is, it's disposable, and it warps it a bit, so I don't know if you'd want to use the same piece of paper too many times. I'm pretty sure my fillament is PLA, ('Cause it sticks really well.) so I don't know how ABS would work on it. Thanks for the informational video! If I ever want to get a mat, I now know what to look for!
Just one thing, I've try on glasses.... ! and no problem it's for me the best way ! But +
use a fixing spray for drawing on the glass, which allows the filament to stick and come off without problem !
This looks ultra cool!
You can try printing on a phone screen protector. For small prints it’s perfect(for pla). It’s clear, and you can bend it a little to pop of the prints.
I literally draw on my phone / tablet screen using it to display reference images (I have glass screen protector and the pen I use does not have a metal tip.... wouldn't try it with a metal tip but as long as you don't overheat your phone with a pound of molten plastic it seems to work great without any obvious damage to my phone.
Don't fret about transparency for tracing. You can always use a art projector for tracing, an overhead projector for larger more detailed art tracing, or a digital projector for more flexible applications like object mapping. Laser projectors are focus free and can be used on oddly shaped surfaces which can work well with the 3D printing pens. I wonder if there are 3D printing brushes for adding varying thicknesses and textures to the widths of a stroke? That would be cool.
So far in my testing at home the ultimate surface ( if you don't need to see reference images thru it) would have to be 25u stainless mesh. It's not something everyone has around, and I suspect any really fine mesh metal screen will work similarly..... it has enough texture to give bite with a bit of squish on your first layer pass, but the mesh is too tight to let it seep I and fuse to the screen, and when it cools it actually comes really close to self releasing! (I just stretch a peice over an old picture frame and it's like having a flex bed when it comes to releasing)
Yes!!! Thank you soo much for the chart!
i use blue painters tape on a plexiglass, with PLA. i started with a cd case, but it melted (this was when i was using my 3d printer.) i'm still learning how to use the pen and 3d printer filament.
Is there a 3d print that prints with PETG?? I mainly use PETG on my Ender 3, and would like to get a 3d pen to fix stuff :D
Loving my Mynt3d Pen pro it uses 1.75 mm Filament and that is best as the stick to 3doodler gets stuck easily.
What about making your own shapes on a surface you want using cnc tools ?
That could be handy! I wonder what material I would choose...
@@make.anything Something flexible that would be able to handle temperature of pla and abs plastic. What about silicon mold ?
Okay I have silicon regular Mat a cutting self healing mat can these work too? Have u tried cardboard? Canvas paper? Watercolor paper plexiglass glass?
Thanks for another helpful and interesting video!
I can use hair spray for glass?
Hi, what I use with my kids to draw the design on squared paper then use wide cellotape to cover it. While heat damage it you still can remove from it easily and reusable a few times. This way the risk of slipping off your design is gone unlike with transparent thick materials.
What about clear tape?
Yeah you're right it works
I have PETG for my 3d printer, I was thinking about getting a 3d pen too. Will PETG work well?
I have just started a keychain project and I’m selling a lot. Could you do a tutorial?
love your videos, makes me wanna get a 3d pen of my own. :)
I honestly like bluetape, it works well, and it comes in a roll so i wont worry about using it
Try straight PEI. You should be able to get a 3mm thick sheet on Amazon for about the same price as borosilicate, and it's mostly transparent. (It's fairly yellow.)
Hello this just popped up in my recommended. Pleased tou are doing this. I am always looking for the best mat for my project
Would it be possible to print out your own, then use an adhesive spray to protect it from fusing?
Can you make a video about smoothing tools like mini Iron? Or how to make a sphere?
You could also try coating whatever surface you want to use with hairspray or a glue stick?
I used a silicon baking sheet, cardboard, my desk.... and the pla plastic that came with my pen and that I got from JoAnn's just wouldn't grip ANYTHING. The only thing it gripped was this clear plastic sheet that came with the pen... and it held it so well I couldn't get my little test project off of it.... Am I maybe not putting the pen close enough to the mat?
Distance from the surface can definitely affect how well something sticks and takes practice. What pen and material are you using? ABS shrinks a lot and is much harder to stick to different surfaces
@@make.anything It's a SCRIB3d and it came with PLA plastic. I also picked up a spool of PLA from JoAnn's.
i found perler bead paper work good for me
Can you use these cheaper surfaces as a bed material on a 3d printer?
Can you do a video on the best long lasting reliable 3d printing pen
What about PEI flexplates ? It's actually the best printplates on the market today...
Parchment paper?
Your guna have to redo your tests buddy, you never tried hairspray, blue tape or any of the other 3d printer tricks aha 🤣
Yes it would Work with hairspray 👍
Nice, i love yo vids
Random piece of plastic from doll packaging will always be superior
I wonder if a toddler silicone mat for food would also work...
Literally ordered a mat before this video came out. 😂
I got the exact same silicone mat and some pla plastic for my 3d pen and the pla won't stick
I’m finding the same problem
What’s the difference between abs/pal and the pros/cons?
Abs is stronger and more flexible than pla, but it still snaps new a certain mount of pressure. Pla has a lower print temperature. I'd recommend finding a video about the two filaments, I think Thomas Salander might have some videos?
Katie Shuttleworth sounds like pla is just better than abs lol
abs produces toxic fumes and should be used with a respirator and/or a serious ventilation system, pla is pretty much nontoxic. pla does not warp significantly when cooling, abs warps all over the place.
ABS does not decompose in bright sunlight as it is mineral in composition. PLA is Poly Lactic Acid, and is organic, it decomposes naturally over a few years, and degrades rapidly, relative to ABS, in sunlight. I live in Queensland, Australia, known as the Sunshine State, and I can attest that PLA degrades very fast when left in a hot car in the sun. Colours fade quickly, and the PLA becomes fragile. ABS outlasts PLA but I don't use it at all now, for the same reasons as Devin stated.
I recommend sandpaper.
Interesting suggestion, thanks!
Hey dude!! Big fan. I have been a subscriber since 2017. I really need your help!! A few years ago I bought a 3Doodler create. At first it was working just fine but now it gets clogged up very often, which makes it impossible to use. What should I do??
Try laminator sheets
What about a sheet of metal?
I've been a decent fan of wax paper, but it peels a lot and is a one-and-done thing
**plops everything on the table**
Me: *Is that an omellete?*
Can you 3D print a better matt?
Yo bro is that a G2?
thanks!
What I got from this video is PLA>ABS quote on the “bs”
yay more 3d pen
yes keep me awake
Did you try paper ? I use it and it work quite fine :)
Can you make a 3d printed working piano ?
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Fix Price за 99 рублей!
Turn your 3d printer on, heat the bed to 60c, then draw!
I paid 60 dollars for the 3d mate matt
As a less artistic person, I don't see an alure to these devices. I'd rather design and print an object than try and do it by hand. Am I missing the point of 3D pens, or are they essentially toys?
well, who would use toxic and cumbersome ABS for 3d pens where you literally bent over the molten plastic and inhale it's fumes?
PLA is the way to go and your video shows that there're many option for it!
One of the most annoying things in videos is the dropping or throwing tools and materials onto the table or workbench.
The abs looked like yellow mustard
🤔 should i Put a cuttingmat on my 3D printer?🤔
Silicone print beds would be cool :) Maybe I'll try it for a 'PLA only' printer
I use glass plate and hair spray.
Serious question - is there any practical purpose for these 3D pens, or are they just toys?
I've heard of people using them to fix or connect regular 3d prints, and you might be able to make practical items with them like pen pots
I suppose they're like a handheld 3d printer! Maybe you could use them to join parts after printing? Or add some accents to your design?
Nice
Do you need a mat for all 3D Pens?
I used cardboard covered in painters tape
What's the best 3D pen??
nice
I use a Kylo Ren kids placemat lol
You also forgott carbon fiber
Wax paper
when are you gonna make another cool project like the fabrics and lock mechanism? these videos are important and im glad they exist but they are pretty boring
You forgot the best 3d pen surface, in my opinion, plain ol` printer paper.
Well, paper and cardboard are more or less the same, right?
@@make.anything True, but paper is flexible, making it easier to get the 3d part off :)
pei?
hi
it's rough getting into this hobby. Do I buy an overpriced chinese knockoff (apparently the popular choice in locak webshiops) or do I buy a higher end product that comes with criminally high (more than half the price of the product, half across the world) shipping costs?
All on the off-chance that it'll last a couple of hours or days, then breaks and you're just SOL&JWF~
Put cardboard on a 3D printer’s build plate.
Ohai Im early here!
Same
Yo
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