Pontiac Vibe and Toyota Matrix Transmission Filter and Fluid Change
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- Changing the transmission filter and fluid in a 2005 Pontiac Vibe. Similar to to the 2003-2008 Pontiac Vibes and Toyota Matrix. The one in the video is a 2 wheel drive, the all wheel drive version has a different transmission due to the addition of a transfer case.
This video highlights key parts of the fluid filter change. Aim to help those that change their own engine oil, to better understand the simplicity of changing the tranny filter and fluid. Video also highlights the importance of this often overlooked automotive servicing.
Correction: In the first steps, use the pan drain plug to remove accessible oil. Omitted this important step when putting the video together.
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/ derf
drain by removing the drain plug and avoid the Niagara Falls of oil all over....
At least somebody noticed...
thank you
scootosan exactly! The guy in the video is buggin out
ikr. I was like you just went over the drain plug but save that for another day on to some excitement!!
Problem with utube is any well intentioned amateur can post... Also once again another video that neglects to mention you need to flush out the torque converter otherwise you're 3+ quarts of really expensive amsoil is mixed with possibly about 3 - 4 quarts of dirty fluid - there are a few vids showing the cooling line trick to FULLY push the old fluid out of the entire transmission. Doing this job properly should take about 6-7 quarts - guarantee within the week fluid will be dark again because the cleaning agents in the new fluid will breakdown the buildup in the trans and transfer it to the fluid. Yuck !!! Giving this a 1 out of 5 stars - Sorry, just being honest.
My thought exactly ,
why not drain it with the drain plug first?
I was literally thinking the exact same thing. It would have been easier and a lot cleaner
Because he's draining everything
@@DTA-me3kv It's way cleaner to pull the plug first then the outer bolts, you get one stream like an oil change not a multitude of little streams splashing all over the place as they land in the catch pan, And elevating the catch pan closer to the transmission can help catch some of the splashy bits.
Yeah...The rare occasion where there's a drain plug...use the damn thing...ha
Why wouldn't you drain most of it out with the drain plug so you don't make such a mess lol?
Very good quality video with excellent audio. My Haynes manual also says 3.2 quarts to fill but the volume you state in the video must be for a dump and fill from the plug, not dropping the pan. I measured well over 4 qts out so I put 4 qts back in. After checking level I found I needed to add an additional 5 ounces. (see 136dogs2 comment below) I used T-IV fluid which the Toyota dealer was selling for $5.95/qt. Beat Amazon surprisingly, even with Prime free shipping.
I have the exact same car, exact mileage and similar scenario as a 2nd owner. transmission fluid was changed at 60,000 and hasnt been since. Now it has 182k. I've never had any trouble whatsoever. I have been told by numerous mechanics not to change it. It would cause more damage than help. that is what I decided to do. I checked the fluid and it is still red and does not smell. It has never leaked a drop either. Should I change it? Thoughts? Would love to hear from the OP.
Did you end up changing it?
@@TheRayvin6 yes, i changed it, and have been every 50k since. The car now has 350,000 miles on it with no tranny issues.
I have a 2003 Toyota matrix 148485 miles .. Never done and transmission change . my bad i have done everything els .. Anyone know if i change it now could the new fluid make my transmission slip??? Any help it would be an awesome thanks in advance
Great video. Nice level of detail and good pointers. I've got an '05 Vibe that I want to change the filter and fluid on, and this video will surely be useful.
One suggestion: In my experience with dropping the transmission pan on an '01 Sienna with a very similarly designed 18-bolt pan, draining the fluid via the drain plug beforehand results in less splatter and better control of where the fluid ends up. ATP's automatic transmission filter kit for the first generation Matrix/Vibe comes with a crush washer to facilitate this.
Nice Job but why you don't use drain plug ?Nice turorial anyway !
Was used to working on on older GM / Ford transmissions, almost all are plug-less pans. Yes, use the plug to remove the accessible oil, the plug is recessed into the pan, so the pan will hold a small amount of oil to be aware of when the pan bolts are removed.
@@lustderf ok. But again much easier and far less messy to drain the majority of the fluid with the drain plug and then deal with residual fluid and clean up after the fact. Draining it the way you did seems ridiculous and way more prone to substantial mess
@@scottkriegerjr.6205 Don't be a twat, he already agreed it's better to use the drain plug. He explained he was used to working on vehicles that didn't have such luxuries. Geezus.
@@chocolate_squiggle twat, and Geezus? Who's being a twat? Geezus! You act like I'm ONLY talking to him, and not also to people who watch this and maybe it never occured to them. Beyond that, grow the hell up. Hurling names is pathetic and shows a huge lack of maturity!
@@chocolate_squiggle I don't see you calling any of the other people who ALSO suggested he use the drain plug twats...
Am I the only woman watching this tutorial to learn how to change the transmission fluid? lol anyway, thank you so much for sharing this information! it will help me a lot as I am trying to do it myself.
Sweet only 3.2 quarts. Has a drain. Thanks man🤙🤜🤛
I bet this transmission started slipping shortly after this
Thanks for the upload! I'm going to tackle this in the upcoming weekend. My 2006 Vibe has 224k miles and is still running strong!
GamingItOldSchool .. you nerver see the color of fluid???
Great! Now I'm ready to tackle changing the ATF and filter on my 2007 Vibe with 184k miles on it.
11 years later I appreciate this I just bought my first car a 03 matrix this video is going to help me a lot when I change my transmission fluid for the first time.
You knew what you were doing! I just recently changed my trans fluid and filter. I had to drop the pan -- twice! The first time I put the pan back on, the gasket wouldn't stay put and I had a slight leak. So I had to drop the pan again today, clean out the pan, and position bolts in the holes across the pan prior to installing the gasket -- much better results! I did replace the filter the first time, and double checked my installation afterwards. After this trans flush, I won't be needing to service my trans anytime soon! Also I won't be using the drain plug anymore.
Keep in mind that on some earlier Vibe models (like my '05 AWD) the transmission drain plug requires a 10mm hex socket for removal.
weekend mechanic here.. and damm all you guys posted what I was going to - @1:00 about the drain plug. Yeah remove the drain plug first, empty out the fluid and then work on the pan bolts. But yeah, thanks for the video Fred.
Is new transmission fluid and filter bad for a high mileage automatic transmission in the Pontiac Vibe's case? I have a 2006 model.
Even dropping the pan and filter its not a complete change, oil remains in the torque converter, internal plumbing, and if equipped oil cooler. Unlike the engine were oil pools in the crankcase, the transmission has lots of places that keep fluid form draining all the way back to the pan.
When The engine is hot , should i check the level on running engine or when engine is off ?Because when engine is off the level is not the same as the engine is on .thank you
I would change it, the Vibe Matrix owners manual says to change transmission fluid every 60k miles or 45k if you tow. Might get by with just changing fluid, but at your mileage dropping the pan will allow better assessment of the transmission. Inspecting any part of the car can never hurt, may provide insight into future maintenance / repairs.
i have a 07 vibe it has been the best car i ever owned . i also have a 09 dodge journey pure junk .
I agree about the Vibe and it sounds like I guessed correctly about the Journey.
Great vid! Thanks for posting. Great lighting, audio, and Info.
dude. there is a reason there is a DRAIN PLUG> WTF.
How is the car? Would you buy that Napa ultra8 filter again?😊
Thanks for the video! Comprehensive and with good camera angles.
I paid 300 bucks for someone to do this and transmission went out a few years later.
HELLO DRAIN PLUG !!! SMDH
I dont get why you didnt remove the plug,less of a mess.
this guy is absurd, drain plug duh
Everyone said doing this is more damaging than good
How does an owner not change oil in that amount of miles?
They say a hot fluid check is more accurate possibly because hot means operating temperature which on our RAV4 is specified to be between 158°F to 176°F. There is no specified temperature range that I am aware of for a cold fluid check. My guess would be room temperature?
It's important to remember that the temperature gauge for your engine is not much help in determining ATF temperature. Usually a 20 minute drive will do the trick just driving around town or varying speeds on country roads. An all uphill drive would likely overheat the transmission and an all downhill drive likely won't even get it to operating temperature especially in the winter. I have a Scangauge in our vehicle to monitor ATF temperature and this is what I have found to be true. Also just idling from a cold start takes 35 minutes in our RAV4 to get the ATF to 158°F.
Take drain plug off them drop the pan
A bit of fine metallic dust!!?? That's like half of your clutches right there. My truck has 232,000 miles on it, original transmission, changed every 60,000 miles and has always had barely any of the metallic dust on the magnet. Nothing ever in the pan. Good luck with that thing man.
Like your helpful videos ; just changed the 2 oxygen sensors . 5 hours but saved the labour cost ! 2006 Vibe 600,000 kms. Why oh why would you not remove the tranny drain bolt to drain most of the fluid before dropping the pan ? Also the drainbolt is aluminum , on purpose to strip its threads & save the steel pan holder thing ! GM nor Toyota will adjust valve lash !
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your crazy ALWAYS PUT THE JACK ON FRAME if jack stands give or car rocks ur dead
there is a reason why its "illegal" to go by fluid color. Transmission fluid is a detergent. if you run brand new fluid for 30 mins in your car, it will look "brownish" if you check it after that because of the chemical makeup of the fluid. Going off fluid color holds no value at all.
Thanks for the video
My wife has a 2009 vibe. I checked the trans fluid on it about a month ago while doing oil change and noticed that it was rather dark. The car has 80k on it and so its probably do anyway. With this low millage should I do fluid and filter or could I get away with just doing the fluid?
If you are getting a code related to the transmission, its hard to say what might be the cause. Changing the filter and fluid would allow you to see the bottom of the transmission. Aside from that I would take it to someone who would be able to better diagnose the code you are getting.
I was told that sniffing gas kills a lot of brain cells. This explains why this guy did remove the drain plug before removing the pan avoiding all that overflow mess.
Very detailed video thank you. I have to be honest I'm not a big fan of Napa. To expensive for me.
Thx, gonna use this, coming up on 284,000 miles
can you pull the plug before you drop the pan to avoid the mess?
giving my son a 2003 vibe for his first car and I'm going to do this. it's not an 05, but I'm sure very similar routine. thanks and awesome video!
Thank you!
Nice video.
How many miles can you get on the vibe or the matrix. I was thinking about buying a backup vehicle and one of these looks good. My kids can get in the back easy and it gets good gas mileage. It would be a backup to my jeep which I want to get to 300K
SuperDagod1 I have 231 thousand on my 03. Still gets an average of 32 mpg. Great car. Loaned it to my daughter for a year, got it back with no oil on the dipstick, and way too much transmission fluid (brown) on the stick. Changing the trans fluid now. Great car. Though ugly. It's a Toyota matrix rebranded as a Pontiac. Basic maintenance, and it will run forever. I also have a Jeep. 91 Cherokee. XJ. 5 speed manual, 4.0, and 4 wheel drive. Two unkillable rides.
Mine has 230k should I chage mine
When was it last changed? You can get a rough estimate by seeing how dirty or clean the area underneath is. But if you can't tell, might as well just change it anyway, a good quote I learned is that "there is no such thing as TOO clean a fluid in your car". Fluid isnt that expensive anyway, be sure to get the Toyota grade T-IV stuff
Thanks for the excellent step by step video. 👍
I added a frantz filter to my awd vibe transmission clean oil also have frantz oil filter on oil love them
Thanks. I was just curious. BTW B&M makes aftermarket drain plugs. I put them on anything the doesn't have a plug.
Have not had that issue. Would suggest visiting genvibe.com and posting issue, someone on the site may have a possible solution. From what I have read, it could be anything from valve, piston wear, plug issue etc. The sound of air leaking would also include the possibility that the intake manifold has a crack or gasket issue allowing air to enter the cylinder without passing through the Mass Air Flow sensor.
When you drop the pan was the shift solenoid in there? Or is it on the side of the transmission
What’s the torque specs for transmission filter bolts for a 2006 vibe 1.8l auto?
85 in/lbs
Thanks Fred for the great video. I bought a 07 vibe with 125500 miles on it about four months. The shifting seems sluggish and the color of the oil is now more brown than red. I have no idea on the past maintenance history on the transmission but im gonna go ahead with a filter and fluid change. Seems like the maintenance schedule would call for it around the 120K mark. Do you any preference on the different materials gaskets are made of? Cork vs the rubber?
How does your transmission work now?
Will this help with code p0741
Pressure wash under that hood..
Thanks for the great informative video Fred....
Getting the code p0741
Thank you for detailed instructions!
Great video! Thank You.
Inch town, inch pound
Great how to vid. I am going to change out the gear oil on my 2006 Matrix AWD. Just wanted to know if you have to tips for doing this. Can i reuse the metal washers under the bolts? Should I stick with Toyota or use Amsoil synthetic gear oil? Thanks.
Not sure. Have not worked on an AWD model. This may help with the front transfer case forums.genvibe.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=30035
+Fred Lyst Thanks Fred.
Great how to. I have a 2006 Matrix AWD (auto) with 63k mi. Had a trans flush done about 10k mi ago. Fluid is perfect. When do you think I should have the filter changed at next service, or just leave it until car has much more mileage?
Damn 7 years later and no answer. Do you still have your matrix?
@@Alex-rl4uy Yes. 207,000 miles and still runs great.
excellent teacher thanks a lot.
nice video fred can you tell me how much oil in quarter use vibe 05 automatic transmission ? please i nedd to know cuz i don´t have the manual . last time i put it 5 quarters on my vibe and i noticed some leaks
Amount of fluid going back into the transmission depends on a few variables, filter changed, did you drop the pan, or just drain from the pan plug. Easiest way to determine fluid amount, if the transmission was at the full mark when starting, measure what is removed. The add that amount back. Run the vehicle to get a hot reading on the dipstick, then add small amounts until you get the correct level on dipstick. Unlike the engine oil pan (open space) the transmission has many specialized fluid paths that hold fluid affecting the fluid amount used during a drain and fill. 4qts is a good starting point, 4.4qts is listed in the manual. Overfilling the transmission can cause damage, if you go over the mark you will have to drain some fluid.
Fred Lyst thanks for answer Fred , well last time i had changed the oil was 7 months ago and i removed the pan (16 bult ) and i had changed the oil filter aswell . and i put 5 quarter of semi sintetic oil . and whenever a check the oli level when the car is cold the oil mark "hot" in the dipstick,,,, the same thing when the engine is hot always mark "hot". im worry cuz the transmission is leaking . and dreaning the oil . but is wear cuz always mark the same level in the dipstick.. and the pan doesn´t have any dent at all everything looks good under. so that why i thinh i should use less oil. and my question is how much quarter oil you put in your vibe ?. thanks in advance Fred
According to the 2005 Pontiac Vibe owner's manual, the 1.8L (Code 8) holds 3.2 quarts, the 1.8L (Code 8) with AWD holds 3.1 quarts, and the 1.8L (Code L) holds 4.3 quarts. Use only T-IV Automatic Transmission Fluid (GM Part No. U.S. 88900925, in Canada 22689186).
You mentioned 3k-5k interval to change fluid again to remove all the old fluid. My local transmission shop said they just take it for a spin and then repeat drain fill. Is it the same as far as getting all the old fluid out?
Tobias Sinclair Either way works, I swapped more transmission fluid during the next engine oil change 3-5k miles. Figured I had to jack the car up to change the engine oil, plus the remaining old tranny oil would have time to thoroughly mix.
Tobias Sinclair no. you will never get all the old trans fluid out that way the new and old will mix in the pan. the only way to get all the old out is to flush remove cooler line and run engine old will pump out add new fluid during drain until clear/clean fluid is seen out of cooler line.
line going from trans to radiator. and either will work i prefer the return line (upper one on mine) so you can flush cooler also. use clear tube and feed trans while it is pumping out. my vibe used 2 gallons to flush until red clear came out (clear hose)
AND NO DON'T DO IT IN DRIVE PARK IS FINE I have been ran over once not fun.
Thanks!
Drain it first? Duh lol
Something important I've learned is that you need to add 1oz of Lubegard platinum per quart of atf you put in. I believe the dealers add this every time they flush. Please do ur own research. I just flushed the pan, and before new atf went in I felt that the car was a bit harsh to change gears. But even with new fluid in did not change much. So I just found out about this Lubegard platinum put in 4oz, slightly better, then today another 1oz I put in. Let's see how it will behave on the high way.
When I asked my garage to change, when the manual suggests, they say "if it's not causing any problems, I wouldn't mess with it..." It now has 226,000. and has never been changed. After watching you video, I'm going to find me a new garage! My question is: Should I, at this high mileage, ask the new guy to change?
+Patrick C I have an 08 Vibe with 245,000 miles. Original Transmission fluid. It clearly says on the dipstick - under normal driving conditions, transmission fluid should never need to be changed. Mine is shifting fine, and still has a red look to in on the stick, however I am going to do a change soon.
Make a video how to change the transmission solenoid.
Thanks Fred, it's very helpful tutorial vid. My toyota matrix 2009 has 108k km. What is cleaning solution you use for the inside pan? Two thumbs up.
+Chuyen Do I used aerosol can of carb cleaner, but any general purpose solvent would work, paint thinner, kerosene. Since the bottom of the pan is painted, want to steer away from acetone or other solvents that might hurt the finish.