Can't compare when it comes to quickness. When it comes to crossing states comfortably its lower on the list, when it comes to all season riding, it's at the bottom of the list. Compared to what for always changes things. The FXDE is quicker 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile The big Milwaukee 131 is even quicker. I think the V-Rod is a beast and just a cool looking bike, but like anything, when we look around there are other things going on.
Oil leak is the front breather. Put a o-ring on the air box and make sure it sets in the breather hose when you put it back on. It’s hard to line up if you don’t pay attention. It’s literally the #1 issue with all Vrods. No worries. I’ve had mine for years and Drag Race it all the time. They are about as close to trouble free as you can get for stock bike. As far as fuel mileage ........just get used to stopping at gas stations haha.
Got a muscle bought brand new in 2013. Overall reliability is good but i had the following issues: 2017 leak in the abs circuit from the frond break. With the lines in europe having catalysts the exhausts overheats and melt the abs line which is very close to it. That was at about 20 000kms. 2020 leak in the front break abs system: a screw on the abs was loose. These are the only issues after 27 000kms now. Watch for the paint on the tabk cover as it gets easily scratched with a jacket zip for example. Tires: if you dint go to heavy on the throttle you can expect a good lifespan for them. Second mount was metzeler with 260 in the rear. I found thel much better. However this is not a bike to handle on the wet. Same with quick accelerations on 1st gear. No traction control and the rear wheel soins very easy. Front light should be updated either with a daymaker or led light bulbs if you drive at night. Watch out not ti get the fake daymaker from china. It s crap. If you wabt more fun get a stage 2 cam kit with a super tuner pro. Lastly the bike is a tank on highway. Very stable even above 200kph. Only the wind is an issue for some.
I used to get upset cause the vrod,breakout, fxdr are no longer . Now I say let it be . These beauties are still out there and riding a bike that's not seen around a whole lot is only better . These fat tire bikes will always have their people
Amen! I have an M109R...and it lowered so it really cleans up the rear end by addressing the gap. Really like the new Rocket, Vrod Muscle, Breakout, Fatbob and FXDR. VMax is pretty cool too. Like sport bike performance but I dont enjoy riding position. These muscle cruisers are fun. Not as quick or nimble but still entertaining plus more comfortable. Still wouldnt mind a sport bike in the garage someday for those times you just want to rip! Great hobby! Wished I had gotten into it in my younger days! Great videos Brandon. Both the M109 and VRod are awesome!
OK, a couple of comments, here. I may have mentioned in one of the earlier videos on your Muscle that I had a '14 Night Rod that I put 43,000+ miles on. The best bike I have ever owned. (and I've owned many) Don't get too carried away about fixing your oil "leak" just yet. I discovered early on that when you change oil and filter just putting 4 1/2 quarts in takes care of the bike puking out a little extra. Once I started doing that I never, ever lost another drop. Also, as far as valve adjustments are concerned; I never touched them. The sound of the valve train and the bike's performance never changed in the 43,000 miles I had it. Mine was not the only one that wasn't messed with, either. I was on a VROD Facebook group and several others put many, many miles on these engines without touching them. I recommend using the highest quality 20w50 full synthetic MC oil available (your choice) and I changed every 4,000. Mileage range on mine was 155 mpg max. I did that in rural New Mexico once because there were no gas stations anywhere. I was worried (these fuel gauges suck on these) but when I filled up I still had 1/2 gallon left. I, also, put a nice set of corrugated L shaped front footboards from Joker Machine in place of the chincey little pegs that come stock. Best change I made was putting a set of Legend "Revo" shocks on the back. HUGE improvement. The stock shocks were shot after my first long ride out to California and back. Legend has a shop in Sturgis (just 30 miles from me) and they were great to work with. Good luck. These are VERY dependable motorcycles.
You are definitely right when it comes to speed the M109R and the Vrod are way to close to compare it truly does come down to rider and weight of the rider makes a huge impact. You know me I'm still hoping you get that Vmax next
I had a vmax sold it to finish off a project car and got a vrod and regretted the vrod purchase ever since. Only upside is the additional 40 miles I can drive on the vrod
@@Anthony93GT I have always wanted to ride a VMAX I have a touring bike now but the VMAX would be a fun tear up the road bike plus there more valuable with them no longer making them after this year
The corner carving, and pure adrenaline, and aerodynamics of the vmax are phenomenal. The wind isn't an issue unless you're hauling ass. And for a naked bike thats impressive. Whatever lean angle they claim, I surpassed and have witnesses. Once you ride the Vmax it robs the pleasure of other cruisers.
I love the bike . A real performance bike from Harley that no longer made , the price could go up some day. The problem with Harley is they've sold so many models that the value isn't the same . I'll say for die hard bikers , they take advantage of the price drop while they still see value in the bikes and parts . The vrod is bad ass beauty and it's worth owning . Just cause a die hard bikers doesn't see them in a positive way oh well . The Harley times have been changing in looks and performance ....... So I'm all with it . It's a great design . Ride safe , brother from another shaded color
This is a great and honest review.. 16VRSCF for me.. My 1st Harley and my 1st cruiser.. Have been riding liter bikes since I was 15.. I love this bike.. I often get throttle happy too!! Lol
I also think that they should bring back the V-Rod with the Revolution Max from the upcoming Pan-America and with a 6th gear. I personally love the Muscle and I consider it one of the most beautiful bikes ever made, I like the F above all the other VRSC’s because the symmetric exhaust, as far as I know, all the other V-Rods have both exhausts on the right side, only the muscle has one on each side.
I'm dreading the valve clearance. But I've heard others who own Vrods who've gone 50k miles without doing one, only checks and they were in proper spec all 50k miles.
Miss my 09 muscle. Change that headlight when you can. That stock headlight sucks at night. I quickly put a day maker on it after riding for a month at night with the stock headlight. Also the throttle lock is a pain to use lol
Love the video... I also have a V-Rod and I love it..at first I was looking at the breakout but once I wrote the muscle his hands down the better bike..
Great video, I’m sure you already fixed the leak but like you mentioned the breather hose is the most common cause, $5 diy fix. I absolutely love mine- added custom seat and pegs/grips with banshee horn and LED Headlight. Super fun machine! Enjoy and be safe
2016 VRSCF- SE fuel pak and VH pipes.. 1st HD and Cruiser.. I love it!! And your review Sir.. Exactly how I feel about my Throttle happy bike.. I also hate the kickstand..lol
The jiffy stand for sure takes some getting used to, but you will never want to go back to a kick stand again. The reason the jiffy stand angles in when you put the bike down is a tab is being pushed into the frame so that it doesnt fold itself up on an incline. Thats the big advantage. You cant fold the jiffy stand up unless the bike is level and off the stand. No more putting in gear on an incline and worrying about the stand maybe folding up.
As to the problem moving your fingers to trigger the turn signals, HD offers extended turn signal caps with little "wing" extensions so you don't need to shift/move your hands to signal. Also, swap out the headlight for an LED unit and replace the stock footpegs and shiftpeg with aftermarket, like Jokers. And, FYI, you only need to tilt the engine forward slightly to gain access to the rear valve covers to adjust the valves. There's an HD video on YT detailing the entire procedure.
Theres a screen on the bike that tells you the range. And it's probably the rocker cover the one I'm buying has the same thing and its from it not being riden. To replace it take the final drive belt off lossen the front engine mount drop it down a little and you'll have access to the rocker cover. Should take a weekend or a couple hours.
I've ridden a Raider before but it was before my TH-cam days. (2014 I think) If I can get my hands on one again, I will surely post something about it.
Like the M109, the V-Rod is another much under appreciated bike. I love the look of both bikes and the power of each is comparable. Both are great bikes IMHO.
I have a 2009 Harley Davidson I bought it in 2011 I only have 3500 miles on it, excellent bike never had a problem but I do recommend you change the headlight, poor night visibility. Check out Eagle lights. Also you don't have to drop the Engine for valve job.
It's coming. I wanted the 109 to be in peak condition when I do that video. It's currently being worked on. Got the forks off yesterday to replace the seals and soon the valve clearances.
I have a low mile, damn near mint, yellow vrscse2. I would love for you to ride it and compare, because I really like the muscle, as it is my style, and the only other bike I want as much, is the m109R. Great taste, sir. 🤜🏽💥🤛🏽 Also, pop that air box off and check that one breather line. As you said, its very likely that. That was the problem with mine. It was cracked and they do it easily
Change your brake fluid..Apparently It should be changed every two years as moisture gets Into the ABS module and It will seize up = no brakes , I know It just cost me 2k at a HD dealership on my 2015 Muscle . Its up for sale .
I had that exactly bike. I had 2 issues. My master cylinder was leaking and one of the radiator fans stopped working. For the most part that was was a tank! Go choice brother!
It's not a break down issue per say. I was still able to ride. I just had to be mindful of the hot days and sitting in traffic. The temp light came on...
The fans on come in a two fan set up. It was less then a $1,000. Also, when you decide to tune it up, there is a kit you have to buy because of where the spark plugs are. Not trying to discourage you from owning it (great bike), just want you to keep these things in mind.
Get a Vmax 1700 for your next muscle bike... Having to drop the motor to do a valve adjustment just made me say, "No way" to a Vrod purchase. Thanks for all your Vrod vs, M109r vs, etc vs....
I was going to ask if you had the oil leak yet. Nice looking bike, sometime a higher mileage bike is in better shape mechanically, they don't sit around and dry up seal and hose wise.
Pretty spot on review of the V-Rod. I do hate the turn signal switches though, having come over from sport bikes. Also the poor fuel mileage cannot be overstated. With a 5 gallon tank and riding like a maniac on my CBR929 I got around 190-225 miles. With the V-Rod and riding like a sane person it's around 90-120 miles from a 5 gallon tank. I did add Bud's Bar risers to make it more comfortable to ride. Takes the leaning forward out of the riding position just enough.
I looked at these first to be honest but didnt like how cramped I felt on it... I ended up with 2008 M109R2 myself we call it the circumcised edition 😂 The VRod looks nice but I dont think it can touch the 109 in performance! Nice video though!
Another great video and music as always. Admittedly it was a surprise to see the vrod as the new bike but it is nice. Looking to get my 2nd this spring so I'll have my vtx 1800 and a 109. Safe riding
LOVE the Vrod content man! PLEASE do a range test! I get around 140-150 miles per tank depending on how I ride with a 2 into 1 and a high flow air intake. I would love to see how ours compare! Also if you are able to in the future, a tune makes one hell of a difference compared to a stock tune. The stock tune on these runs massively lean around 4K rpm at a loss of midrange and slightly top end power! Lastly, I’ve also been very anxious about the valve lashings but I was reassured by multiple Vrod owners and Harley master techs that you can really push the valve adjustment to every 20-25k miles as they all say it’s unnecessary to do it every 15k miles (however they do say that you should do it every 15k if you beat the hell out of the bike all the time and or frequent the drag strip)! Also I bet the license plate says something like “VRSCDX”! Keep up the awesome work my man!
Great review! I own a 2013 Muscle as well. It does ride a little firm, but over all, its a great bike. Definitely a bar hopper. I had the same oil leak with mine. It ended up being a breather hose in my air box. No big deal! STAY AWAY FROM THE DIAVEL!!!!!!!! It's a sexy looking bike, but is less reliable than any HD. No need to ask me how I know, because I owned a Diavel. It was in the shop 3 times the year that I bought it brand new. It kept stalling on me when coming up to red lights or stop signs. I finally got tired of its quirks and sold it after only one year of ownership. Will NEVER buy another European motorcycle again!
@@TheGagan1235 Yes, the fuel float can stick at times. Might be time to replace it. Mine did it a couple of times, then cleared itself out. Had already bought a replacement float but never used it.
My 2014 doesn't have a jiffy stand - as I understand. The Jiffy stand prevents the kickstand from folding back if the bike shifts forward. Did they add that on later years?
Yamaha raider probably the best out of the muscle cruisers because of the reliability you will get wit the Japanese, Yamaha built. I had a Yamaha warrior and I couldn’t kill it, I tried. Lol. my buddy had the raider and It was a smidge faster and I think a lot better looking. I can’t believe the vrod has an oil leak under 5k miles, That sucks man. That was a good video, kept me entertained from beginning to end. Keep up the strong work.
Great video man! I'm with you. I ride an '03 V-rod that I've tricked a little and it's about 130hp (15 over stock). I really like it. But you hit the nail on the head...the 3.7 gallon gas tank sucks! I purposely wanted one with the smaller rear tire because I think they turn in better. But, the 250mm sure looks cool! I've been trying to talk myself into a Breakout....but they are slower than the V-rod....even the 114 is slower. But it is a sweet looking bike. The 109 is sweet too. A friend of mine has one. You can't go wrong with either of them. But if you really want to tick off the purists....get a Livewire! :) Ha ha! I actually rode one, and they're more like a Buell than a Harley. And the electric motor has 100% torque right off zero rpm. They are a wheelie machine. A lot of fun. But my HOG buddies pick on me for not having a "real" Harley, so I'd ride a Livewire too. Still thinking about a Breakout though. Anyway, keep up the good videos!
It's a great bike, keeping fingers crossed the oil leak is only a blocked breather (I had the same issue on my Buell XB12S). I'm also sure that fuel consumption is up there because of the fun you're having. Lol, might as well enjoy it! VMax or XDiavel for sure!
Brandon, start driving this bike like a Super Bike, it can take it ! At the end of the day your shoulders will hurt from hanging on ! Change the fork fluid too. things will get better along with trail braking in the the turns. Cheers !
Avon cobra 260 rear tire is what you want. Fits perfect to stock rear wheel and so much more grip. You will pick the front end up on launch everytime bro. Downfall is they are expensive butbits only thing I run on my Vrod. Oh and BTW, you will never get used to any having 5 gears. After almost 10yrs with mine and I still b trying to go into the phantom 6th gear on mine 🤣
I'm sure it works flawlessly. I don't think it was ever a marketed feature by Indian. 🤔 May be now but I think I had to read the manual or hear about it from other owners that it could do that.
Love my 13 v-rod. Handfuls of throttle are nothing but joyous. I too have oil showing by the back cylinder head and I'm waiting on what the mechanic has to say. I feel the comment you made about reaching for a sixth gear. The only logic i gather is that doing 65mph at 4500 rpm leaves you with another 65 mph and 4500 rpm on tap. The 120hp Revolution will bury 5th gear to redline and 130mph, quickly might I add. A sixth gear stepped out another increment will flirt with 145-150mph. 130 is arguably fast enough.
I can tell you from experience that in my case the Vrod is faster than the M109.My neighbor bought a 2018 M109 boss a couple of years ago brand new.I have a 2005 Vrod which has a screaming eagle pipe and high flow filter,im 265 my neighbor is 225 i get him by a fender pretty much every race.On the top end the Vrod wins every time.Im not trying to start an argument i love both bikes.
I like the vrod Harley should have kept making it. Harley is skinning down their line up so I don't expect them to come out with a vrod predecessor. I think they sort of tried with the fxdr but they yanked production on it this year (0-60 in 2.5 seconds!). I've said it before, but the vrod had the best engine in harley's history, they should have made more bikes with it instead of continuing with the air cooled stuff. The smartest thing Indian has done is the scout and challenger with their modern engines instead of old push rod tech. They need to worry less about the baby boomers who are aging out of motorcycles and focus on a new generation. More bikes with the vrod engine could have helped. (lower pricing wouldn't hurt either)
I vote for a Honda Magna next, you cant beat their lightweight. I love mine, its so fun to drive compared to my friends vrod, especially in the twisties.
Know what you mean about Harley kickstands.....I am never confident that I have it kicked out all the way and am terrified I'm going to let the bike drop.
Hi there thanks for the video..have a question I love that bike and looking to get one but I'm just 5.6 tall do think I don't have any problem to reach the pedals????
@@BrandonBicasso I think I might do it, only issue is fitting that swing arm and tire within the left exhaust, I talked to someone who did it, they used bushings and longer bolts
You always make great videos Brandon. You ride bikes I would never be interested in. The M109 comes from performance company. VRod not so much. Good luck, sir.
Does teh vrod ride and shift better than the m109...ive had my 109 for couple years but am getting sick of the klunky ass trans and hard ride..have a chance to buy a 2005 with 6500 miles for 5500..seems like a great deal,,looks as though handelbars need pulled back as i did on my 109 with a riser kit
Yes I have a night rod, I got mine with 3500 miles on it, and shortly after I bought it it had an oil leak, I took it back to the harley dealer and they fixed it. It was an air holes that was pinched under the air box, but then the young tech who fixed it pinched the fuel line, which blew up the fuel cell and caused it to rub against the belt, which made a hole in the cell which cost me over 1500 dollars, so be ware of this happening to you bro. Be safe, Peace..
The most kick ass HD ever ...no HD can compare enuff said.
Agreed I have a 2014 muscle and it's a beast
Can't compare when it comes to quickness.
When it comes to crossing states comfortably its lower on the list, when it comes to all season riding, it's at the bottom of the list.
Compared to what for always changes things.
The FXDE is quicker 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile
The big Milwaukee 131 is even quicker.
I think the V-Rod is a beast and just a cool looking bike, but like anything, when we look around there are other things going on.
Oil leak is the front breather. Put a o-ring on the air box and make sure it sets in the breather hose when you put it back on. It’s hard to line up if you don’t pay attention. It’s literally the #1 issue with all Vrods. No worries. I’ve had mine for years and Drag Race it all the time. They are about as close to trouble free as you can get for stock bike. As far as fuel mileage ........just get used to stopping at gas stations haha.
Got a muscle bought brand new in 2013. Overall reliability is good but i had the following issues: 2017 leak in the abs circuit from the frond break. With the lines in europe having catalysts the exhausts overheats and melt the abs line which is very close to it. That was at about 20 000kms.
2020 leak in the front break abs system: a screw on the abs was loose.
These are the only issues after 27 000kms now.
Watch for the paint on the tabk cover as it gets easily scratched with a jacket zip for example.
Tires: if you dint go to heavy on the throttle you can expect a good lifespan for them. Second mount was metzeler with 260 in the rear. I found thel much better. However this is not a bike to handle on the wet. Same with quick accelerations on 1st gear. No traction control and the rear wheel soins very easy.
Front light should be updated either with a daymaker or led light bulbs if you drive at night. Watch out not ti get the fake daymaker from china. It s crap.
If you wabt more fun get a stage 2 cam kit with a super tuner pro.
Lastly the bike is a tank on highway. Very stable even above 200kph. Only the wind is an issue for some.
I used to get upset cause the vrod,breakout, fxdr are no longer . Now I say let it be . These beauties are still out there and riding a bike that's not seen around a whole lot is only better . These fat tire bikes will always have their people
Amen! I have an M109R...and it lowered so it really cleans up the rear end by addressing the gap. Really like the new Rocket, Vrod Muscle, Breakout, Fatbob and FXDR. VMax is pretty cool too. Like sport bike performance but I dont enjoy riding position. These muscle cruisers are fun. Not as quick or nimble but still entertaining plus more comfortable. Still wouldnt mind a sport bike in the garage someday for those times you just want to rip! Great hobby! Wished I had gotten into it in my younger days! Great videos Brandon. Both the M109 and VRod are awesome!
OK, a couple of comments, here. I may have mentioned in one of the earlier videos on your Muscle that I had a '14 Night Rod that I put 43,000+ miles on. The best bike I have ever owned. (and I've owned many) Don't get too carried away about fixing your oil "leak" just yet. I discovered early on that when you change oil and filter just putting 4 1/2 quarts in takes care of the bike puking out a little extra. Once I started doing that I never, ever lost another drop. Also, as far as valve adjustments are concerned; I never touched them. The sound of the valve train and the bike's performance never changed in the 43,000 miles I had it. Mine was not the only one that wasn't messed with, either. I was on a VROD Facebook group and several others put many, many miles on these engines without touching them. I recommend using the highest quality 20w50 full synthetic MC oil available (your choice) and I changed every 4,000. Mileage range on mine was 155 mpg max. I did that in rural New Mexico once because there were no gas stations anywhere. I was worried (these fuel gauges suck on these) but when I filled up I still had 1/2 gallon left. I, also, put a nice set of corrugated L shaped front footboards from Joker Machine in place of the chincey little pegs that come stock. Best change I made was putting a set of Legend "Revo" shocks on the back. HUGE improvement. The stock shocks were shot after my first long ride out to California and back. Legend has a shop in Sturgis (just 30 miles from me) and they were great to work with. Good luck. These are VERY dependable motorcycles.
I thought that I'd hear back from you. Not sure if you read my comment above.
As a Metric cruiser owner I must admit that V Rod is a kind of weirdly attractive !
The V-Rod is a great bike
You are definitely right when it comes to speed the M109R and the Vrod are way to close to compare it truly does come down to rider and weight of the rider makes a huge impact. You know me I'm still hoping you get that Vmax next
I was going to say the exact thing
I had a vmax sold it to finish off a project car and got a vrod and regretted the vrod purchase ever since. Only upside is the additional 40 miles I can drive on the vrod
@@Anthony93GT I have always wanted to ride a VMAX I have a touring bike now but the VMAX would be a fun tear up the road bike plus there more valuable with them no longer making them after this year
The corner carving, and pure adrenaline, and aerodynamics of the vmax are phenomenal. The wind isn't an issue unless you're hauling ass. And for a naked bike thats impressive. Whatever lean angle they claim, I surpassed and have witnesses. Once you ride the Vmax it robs the pleasure of other cruisers.
@@Anthony93GT that sounds amazing!!!
5 gallon tanks started in 2006 on all vrsc models I think. Glad you like it! It looks great and lots of fun for sure.
I love the bike . A real performance bike from Harley that no longer made , the price could go up some day. The problem with Harley is they've sold so many models that the value isn't the same . I'll say for die hard bikers , they take advantage of the price drop while they still see value in the bikes and parts . The vrod is bad ass beauty and it's worth owning . Just cause a die hard bikers doesn't see them in a positive way oh well . The Harley times have been changing in looks and performance ....... So I'm all with it . It's a great design . Ride safe , brother from another shaded color
This is a great and honest review.. 16VRSCF for me.. My 1st Harley and my 1st cruiser.. Have been riding liter bikes since I was 15.. I love this bike.. I often get throttle happy too!! Lol
Glad you enjoyed it!
I also think that they should bring back the V-Rod with the Revolution Max from the upcoming Pan-America and with a 6th gear. I personally love the Muscle and I consider it one of the most beautiful bikes ever made, I like the F above all the other VRSC’s because the symmetric exhaust, as far as I know, all the other V-Rods have both exhausts on the right side, only the muscle has one on each side.
the one thing i would want from the vrod muscle on my m109 is the rider seat “back rest”.
I'm dreading the valve clearance. But I've heard others who own Vrods who've gone 50k miles without doing one, only checks and they were in proper spec all 50k miles.
That oil leak on the v rod is the crankcase breather hose. Very simple fix, wrap with electrical tape or replace hose.
I have a vrsca04. Owned 20 years. 116000kloms, no problems! Loved it so much that I gave up my 20 year jewellery trade to work for HD as a tech!
Wow, that’s awesome!
Miss my 09 muscle. Change that headlight when you can. That stock headlight sucks at night. I quickly put a day maker on it after riding for a month at night with the stock headlight. Also the throttle lock is a pain to use lol
I ride v-rod muscle for 3years now and I absolutely love it 👊🏻
Never did care for the VRod but know it is a good solid machine. Hope you fixed the leak without too much trouble.
Love the video... I also have a V-Rod and I love it..at first I was looking at the breakout but once I wrote the muscle his hands down the better bike..
Same scenario with me! The breakout was super cool but I like the Vrod better. Especially in terms of performance haha!
@@rocket3me695 I agree 👍
Great video, I’m sure you already fixed the leak but like you mentioned the breather hose is the most common cause, $5 diy fix. I absolutely love mine- added custom seat and pegs/grips with banshee horn and LED Headlight. Super fun machine! Enjoy and be safe
2016 VRSCF- SE fuel pak and VH pipes.. 1st HD and Cruiser.. I love it!! And your review Sir.. Exactly how I feel about my Throttle happy bike.. I also hate the kickstand..lol
I just bought a costume 2015 vrod can't wait till spring to get her out
Dude that's awesome! Enjoy it!!!
The jiffy stand for sure takes some getting used to, but you will never want to go back to a kick stand again. The reason the jiffy stand angles in when you put the bike down is a tab is being pushed into the frame so that it doesnt fold itself up on an incline. Thats the big advantage. You cant fold the jiffy stand up unless the bike is level and off the stand. No more putting in gear on an incline and worrying about the stand maybe folding up.
If you aren't already join the v-rod owners page on Facebook. A lot of great info.
That oil leak is almost certainly the breather tube or tubes.
I've had my 2013 muscle since brand new and I don't have one single mark on my exhaust from putting the kickstand down or up
Good for you. Mine is second hand. 👌🏾😎
The V-Rod engine was the best one that Harley came out with. Brandon the turn signals will eventually cancel out at highway speeds.
As to the problem moving your fingers to trigger the turn signals, HD offers extended turn signal caps with little "wing" extensions so you don't need to shift/move your hands to signal. Also, swap out the headlight for an LED unit and replace the stock footpegs and shiftpeg with aftermarket, like Jokers. And, FYI, you only need to tilt the engine forward slightly to gain access to the rear valve covers to adjust the valves. There's an HD video on YT detailing the entire procedure.
I'll have to try it out. I left them on once and I may not have waited long enough. It does it each time on low speed turns/gear change though.
Theres a screen on the bike that tells you the range. And it's probably the rocker cover the one I'm buying has the same thing and its from it not being riden. To replace it take the final drive belt off lossen the front engine mount drop it down a little and you'll have access to the rocker cover. Should take a weekend or a couple hours.
Ran a stage III vrod with my GS1150. He lost. I like its looks though.
Great video. Would love to see your impressions of Yamaha Raider and the 2014 Honda Valk. Thanks for the smooth content.
I've ridden a Raider before but it was before my TH-cam days. (2014 I think) If I can get my hands on one again, I will surely post something about it.
Like the M109, the V-Rod is another much under appreciated bike. I love the look of both bikes and the power of each is comparable. Both are great bikes IMHO.
Well said!
V max 1200, v rod 1250, vtx 1800, cbr 1000. I owned over 50 bikes.
I like the vtx 1800 best.
I've owned the M109R and the V-Rod loved both bikes I ride a Road King now love it but miss the power of the muscle bikes
I have a 2009 Harley Davidson I bought it in 2011 I only have 3500 miles on it, excellent bike never had a problem but I do recommend you change the headlight, poor night visibility. Check out Eagle lights. Also you don't have to drop the Engine for valve job.
Dropped/Lowered. Not removed. Poor choice of words on my end. And yes, that stock light is meh.
BB, thumbs up on the impressions video! Great comparing, contrasting ,and transparency. Keep 'em coming!
Thanks, Michael!
My 2012 m109r is 105.9 torque and 119.5 HP on back wheel. 0 to 60 klmtrs in under 3 seconds.
Very nice. Never had mine dyno'd
Great video, we are all waiting in suspense for the comparison video. Got my popcorn ready 👍🏽
It's coming. I wanted the 109 to be in peak condition when I do that video. It's currently being worked on. Got the forks off yesterday to replace the seals and soon the valve clearances.
Have tried out a Roadstar Warrior? Good middle ground between an m109 and a vrod muscle
Years ago. Maybe 2015-2016. Don't remember enough of the experience to give my take on it.
Great Vid Buddy, good info...I didn't think there was a comparison with the m109r which I'm also contemplating
I have a low mile, damn near mint, yellow vrscse2. I would love for you to ride it and compare, because I really like the muscle, as it is my style, and the only other bike I want as much, is the m109R.
Great taste, sir. 🤜🏽💥🤛🏽
Also, pop that air box off and check that one breather line. As you said, its very likely that. That was the problem with mine. It was cracked and they do it easily
Change your brake fluid..Apparently It should be changed every two years as moisture gets Into the ABS module and It will seize up = no brakes , I know It just cost me 2k at a HD dealership on my 2015 Muscle . Its up for sale .
I will check mine. Thanks for that, Mar.
I had that exactly bike. I had 2 issues. My master cylinder was leaking and one of the radiator fans stopped working. For the most part that was was a tank! Go choice brother!
Thanks for the heads up. I'll find out about that radiator fan during the warmer days.
It's not a break down issue per say. I was still able to ride. I just had to be mindful of the hot days and sitting in traffic. The temp light came on...
Expensive fix? Or just decided not to replace it?
The fans on come in a two fan set up. It was less then a $1,000. Also, when you decide to tune it up, there is a kit you have to buy because of where the spark plugs are. Not trying to discourage you from owning it (great bike), just want you to keep these things in mind.
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Get a Vmax 1700 for your next muscle bike... Having to drop the motor to do a valve adjustment just made me say, "No way" to a Vrod purchase. Thanks for all your Vrod vs, M109r vs, etc vs....
It’s more like repositioning but it does have to be lowered to get enough clearance.
I was going to ask if you had the oil leak yet. Nice looking bike, sometime a higher mileage bike is in better shape mechanically, they don't sit around and dry up seal and hose wise.
Pretty spot on review of the V-Rod. I do hate the turn signal switches though, having come over from sport bikes. Also the poor fuel mileage cannot be overstated. With a 5 gallon tank and riding like a maniac on my CBR929 I got around 190-225 miles. With the V-Rod and riding like a sane person it's around 90-120 miles from a 5 gallon tank.
I did add Bud's Bar risers to make it more comfortable to ride. Takes the leaning forward out of the riding position just enough.
Never heard of those. Will check it out!
Well done man. Great video. Straight to the point and LOADs of pertinent info. Thanks
Sure thing!
I had to watch this one twice. The 1st time I was too distracted with the beautiful B-roll! 😂 Awesome video as always!
😅 B-roll over everything
Nice Cruiser Bikes...Real Muscle Bike...V-Max !!!
The only HD I ever liked. Slick, powerful and Porsche engine !!! No windscreen and horrible head light output at night.
Great video. Thanks!
Your vids are really cool and very informative.... Love your work, man! Cheers from India
I'm going to said the M108 is faster than the V-Rod. Remember, I've seen what the M109 can do. Great video.
Thanks for the honest review 👍
I looked at these first to be honest but didnt like how cramped I felt on it... I ended up with 2008 M109R2 myself we call it the circumcised edition 😂
The VRod looks nice but I dont think it can touch the 109 in performance! Nice video though!
Lol, they definitely are a bit tighter on the seating
Another great one man
Brandon, another comprehensive and thorough review. Well done. I have been looking at V-rods, quite interesting bikes.
Another great video and music as always. Admittedly it was a surprise to see the vrod as the new bike but it is nice. Looking to get my 2nd this spring so I'll have my vtx 1800 and a 109. Safe riding
Great in depth review man! 👍Can’t wait for more vrod ride!🙂 I’m happy to find your channel. I love quality content!
This with the revmax would be my perfect bike
LOVE the Vrod content man! PLEASE do a range test! I get around 140-150 miles per tank depending on how I ride with a 2 into 1 and a high flow air intake. I would love to see how ours compare! Also if you are able to in the future, a tune makes one hell of a difference compared to a stock tune. The stock tune on these runs massively lean around 4K rpm at a loss of midrange and slightly top end power! Lastly, I’ve also been very anxious about the valve lashings but I was reassured by multiple Vrod owners and Harley master techs that you can really push the valve adjustment to every 20-25k miles as they all say it’s unnecessary to do it every 15k miles (however they do say that you should do it every 15k if you beat the hell out of the bike all the time and or frequent the drag strip)! Also I bet the license plate says something like “VRSCDX”! Keep up the awesome work my man!
Buying my Night Rod was the best bad decision of my life lol. 2013 that only had 2800 miles on it.
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VRod is the only Harley I like, nice bike
You right hand will affect gas mileage. I like the torque curve of the VRod.
I know you eager to check out that new FTR!!!
I am! They added a lot of refinements to it this year. Good stuff.
Great video once again! Enjoy that Vrod and ride safe lil brother. God bless
I hope you got the abs. Without abs is tricky in emergency stops. It's too easy to lock the front brakes. Way too easy.
Yes, it has abs 👌🏾😎
See if you can find a Yamaha Raider to test ride. I have one and I'd love to hear what you think.
Great review! I own a 2013 Muscle as well. It does ride a little firm, but over all, its a great bike. Definitely a bar hopper. I had the same oil leak with mine. It ended up being a breather hose in my air box. No big deal!
STAY AWAY FROM THE DIAVEL!!!!!!!! It's a sexy looking bike, but is less reliable than any HD. No need to ask me how I know, because I owned a Diavel. It was in the shop 3 times the year that I bought it brand new. It kept stalling on me when coming up to red lights or stop signs. I finally got tired of its quirks and sold it after only one year of ownership. Will NEVER buy another European motorcycle again!
Hey, i have 2013 v-rod muscle as well. I am facing issues with fuel gauge. Its going all over the place. Have you faced any issued like this?
@@TheGagan1235 Yes, the fuel float can stick at times. Might be time to replace it. Mine did it a couple of times, then cleared itself out. Had already bought a replacement float but never used it.
My 2014 doesn't have a jiffy stand - as I understand. The Jiffy stand prevents the kickstand from folding back if the bike shifts forward. Did they add that on later years?
Not sure but it’s on my 2013.
Yamaha raider probably the best out of the muscle cruisers because of the reliability you will get wit the Japanese, Yamaha built. I had a Yamaha warrior and I couldn’t kill it, I tried. Lol. my buddy had the raider and It was a smidge faster and I think a lot better looking.
I can’t believe the vrod has an oil leak under 5k miles, That sucks man. That was a good video, kept me entertained from beginning to end. Keep up the strong work.
Great comparison and analysis. 😊
Great video man! I'm with you. I ride an '03 V-rod that I've tricked a little and it's about 130hp (15 over stock). I really like it. But you hit the nail on the head...the 3.7 gallon gas tank sucks! I purposely wanted one with the smaller rear tire because I think they turn in better. But, the 250mm sure looks cool! I've been trying to talk myself into a Breakout....but they are slower than the V-rod....even the 114 is slower. But it is a sweet looking bike. The 109 is sweet too. A friend of mine has one. You can't go wrong with either of them. But if you really want to tick off the purists....get a Livewire! :) Ha ha! I actually rode one, and they're more like a Buell than a Harley. And the electric motor has 100% torque right off zero rpm. They are a wheelie machine. A lot of fun. But my HOG buddies pick on me for not having a "real" Harley, so I'd ride a Livewire too. Still thinking about a Breakout though. Anyway, keep up the good videos!
I will have to get my hands on a Livewire one day!
It's a great bike, keeping fingers crossed the oil leak is only a blocked breather (I had the same issue on my Buell XB12S). I'm also sure that fuel consumption is up there because of the fun you're having. Lol, might as well enjoy it!
VMax or XDiavel for sure!
Lol, right. I'm gonna mess around with it this week. The 109 doesn't have forks on it at the moment. 💁🏾♂️
Not a Harley guy but I really like that V-Rod
Awesome, love you have both bikes. M109R and VRod muscle are what I chose between, I picked M109. 👍
Very awesome!
2006 VRSCD owned since new, still pushin' and wouldn't give it up for anything.
Brandon, start driving this bike like a Super Bike, it can take it ! At the end of the day your shoulders will hurt from hanging on ! Change the fork fluid too. things will get better along with trail braking in the the turns. Cheers !
Thanks for those comments. I ride it a bit harder now. Such a fun bike to ride.
very complete review. thank you
Avon cobra 260 rear tire is what you want. Fits perfect to stock rear wheel and so much more grip. You will pick the front end up on launch everytime bro. Downfall is they are expensive butbits only thing I run on my Vrod. Oh and BTW, you will never get used to any having 5 gears. After almost 10yrs with mine and I still b trying to go into the phantom 6th gear on mine 🤣
I know with my Scout/Chief it seems like the self-canceling only activates when you 1. shift up or 2. after a certain amount of time.
I'm sure it works flawlessly. I don't think it was ever a marketed feature by Indian. 🤔 May be now but I think I had to read the manual or hear about it from other owners that it could do that.
@@BrandonBicasso I know my first bike (Scout) the salesman brought it up to me...maybe because I was upgrading from a 02 Honda Shadow though haha.
😂👌🏾 Nice! I'm getting used to not using it on the V-Rod, but it's hella convenient in traffic.
Love my 13 v-rod. Handfuls of throttle are nothing but joyous. I too have oil showing by the back cylinder head and I'm waiting on what the mechanic has to say. I feel the comment you made about reaching for a sixth gear. The only logic i gather is that doing 65mph at 4500 rpm leaves you with another 65 mph and 4500 rpm on tap. The 120hp Revolution will bury 5th gear to redline and 130mph, quickly might I add. A sixth gear stepped out another increment will flirt with 145-150mph. 130 is arguably fast enough.
Yeah, that oil leak is definitely something simple so don't stress over it. Keep enjoying that V-Rod! They're going up in value now 😎
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Such a nice looking bike
I like your video. Nice and calm and not so over the top like other reviewers. Keep up the good work. I sub'd and look forward to more content.
Thanks, Chris!
The best of both enjoy apples&oranges.
Have you ever rode a Honda VTX 1800? I’d be curious to hear your opinion on that bike
I can tell you from experience that in my case the Vrod is faster than the M109.My neighbor bought a 2018 M109 boss a couple of years ago brand new.I have a 2005 Vrod which has a screaming eagle pipe and high flow filter,im 265 my neighbor is 225 i get him by a fender pretty much every race.On the top end the Vrod wins every time.Im not trying to start an argument i love both bikes.
My m109 reaches 140 no problem and tops at 150mph. What’s the vrod reaching for you?
Brandon, the VRod is nice, but it uncomfortable. The M109R is a smoother ride in my opinion. I do love the look though
I definitely prefer the M109Rs sit. V-Rod handles wind a bit better, though.
Great review!!!!
Preciate that!
I like the vrod Harley should have kept making it. Harley is skinning down their line up so I don't expect them to come out with a vrod predecessor. I think they sort of tried with the fxdr but they yanked production on it this year (0-60 in 2.5 seconds!). I've said it before, but the vrod had the best engine in harley's history, they should have made more bikes with it instead of continuing with the air cooled stuff. The smartest thing Indian has done is the scout and challenger with their modern engines instead of old push rod tech. They need to worry less about the baby boomers who are aging out of motorcycles and focus on a new generation. More bikes with the vrod engine could have helped. (lower pricing wouldn't hurt either)
I vote for a Honda Magna next, you cant beat their lightweight. I love mine, its so fun to drive compared to my friends vrod, especially in the twisties.
Know what you mean about Harley kickstands.....I am never confident that I have it kicked out all the way and am terrified I'm going to let the bike drop.
Yep, it tipped forward on the video 😂 I check it way more than I do on the 109.
Hi there thanks for the video..have a question I love that bike and looking to get one but I'm just 5.6 tall do think I don't have any problem to reach the pedals????
Nah, you should be fine. There are mid-control kits available too.
What’s your opinion about putting a 300mm tire on the muscle with the tab performance pipes?
I have no experience with a 300 on V-Rod, but not an uncommon combination. You gonna do it?
@@BrandonBicasso I think I might do it, only issue is fitting that swing arm and tire within the left exhaust, I talked to someone who did it, they used bushings and longer bolts
You always make great videos Brandon. You ride bikes I would never be interested in. The M109 comes from performance company. VRod not so much. Good luck, sir.
Great review ! With fuel management the mileage will improve. I never had any issues with with my vrod. What black boots are you wearing?
if you get a Diavel you'll have my 3 fav muscle cruisers.
Keep sharing and liking the vids. I can make it happen.
Does teh vrod ride and shift better than the m109...ive had my 109 for couple years but am getting sick of the klunky ass trans and hard ride..have a chance to buy a 2005 with 6500 miles for 5500..seems like a great deal,,looks as though handelbars need pulled back as i did on my 109 with a riser kit
It does but I prefer the cable clutch on the 109.
Yes I have a night rod, I got mine with 3500 miles on it, and shortly after I bought it it had an oil leak, I took it back to the harley dealer and they fixed it. It was an air holes that was pinched under the air box, but then the young tech who fixed it pinched the fuel line, which blew up the fuel cell and caused it to rub against the belt, which made a hole in the cell which cost me over 1500 dollars, so be ware of this happening to you bro. Be safe, Peace..
good video Brandon...do you know who makes your mirror/turnsignals? stay safe my friend.
They look like the stock turn signal/mirrors
Eric, they are stock on the V-Rod Muscle as Jorge mentioned.
Please do a range test vs your m109r
Great video again thanks.
Wouldn't fully be fair. My 109 is tuned but we'll see. I think it'll be close stock.