used windows 11 for 2 years now (Dec 22-Dec 24) and recently, I downgraded [or well, upgraded] to windows 10. The thing that I hated so much was that half of the customization on windows 10 was literally just gone on windows 11.
@@techhub-tv Yeah, that's a tough one. I made a spreadsheet of all apps I used and researched if they were on Linux or had a substitute. With the exception of a few Steam games, I was good. In fact, some of the apps on the Linux side are far superior.
Same here but Ubuntu. Well, Ubuntu is often criticized on Linux forums/by Linux YTbers mostly because of SNAP but I don't care. Ubuntu works great for me and does everything I want from it. Mint would be the same as well. I don't think there's much difference in everyday use. I eventually ended up bingewatching Linux tutorials on YT and learned how to use the terminal and now I'm pretty comfortable with it. I don't use snap at all anyway, I install everything with apt. I'm not feeling like setting up a new OS install again so I'll stick with Ubuntu for some time but if I ever feel like or simply need to do a new install, I'll actually try out Debian. Back when I was deciding to switch to Linux all I wanted was an OS that works and does not piss me off. But I've learned a little bit about Linux now and the priorities have changed. But no matter which Linux distribution one has chosen, it's great to see how much Linux is giving older hardware a new life.
@@sorengeti69 i mean, thats one thing... another is that windows is a semi-locked os, and macos is a fully locked os... however, linux is free to customize however you want...
the number 1 reason people are not upgrading is. Windows is trying to hardware lock your computer in the bios level to use windows. 11 a security nightmare on the same level of the spy ware infested windows 10 iso available on torrent sites. Windows has decided they want to try and force a mac or android level control over your os choices. If you had a dual boot you know why you finally deleted the windows partition.
I agree with you and I get why you upgrade to Linux. I´m doing the same. But. Windows 10 is actually shady nonsense, because of the spying and the advertisement-billboard of the start menu, as well as the only thing making Windows 10 better now is because MS do not "upgrade" the features anymore of Windows 10. Windows 11, however, is bad as Windows 10 - just 200% worse. The last real OS MS made was Windows 7, in my opinion. Best regards.
Aside from the usual issues, the UI issues are what do it for me. I use Windows 11 only for my mini-PC (just because it came with it). When I right-click and want to do an action, half the options are in "Show more options". So, instead of being able to just right-click and do what I want like in previous Windows versions, I now have to scroll down, left-click, then left-click again. It's just annoying, and a downgrade of functionality. I also hate the mouse-over the taskbar showing a tiny preview of apps that are open that's difficult to see, instead of the titles. Just show the titles like in Windows 10, too much mouse movement just to select what I want. You also can't revert any of these issues back to how previous versions behaved, unless you install a 3rd-party app. Productivity just gets slowed down by a thousand little cuts. I just want to click or mouse-over something, then scroll up or down with my mouse and click it, and not have to do a kata every time.
@@techhub-tv you can only push so far though , most people didn't adapt to windows 8, because it was unfamiliar and many changes were rolled back mostly to how things were in xp and before
@@techhub-tv but if the changes are considerably annoying and driven by ill intention(forced upgrade n money involved), people deserve to push back instead of "adapt" and consider it "normal".
@@techhub-tv No, I don´t agree. First: there are 3rd party software that fixes the downgrade that Windows 11 makes. Second: the downgrades of Win 11 are not small things, it´s a UI that nobody wants and MS just don´t care about this. And third: Windows 7 was the last OS that MS made, Win 8 were (as Win 11) a MS decision what people want and use - and Win 8 flopped massively. Win 10 is a spying OS without any option for normal users to turn of -all- the spying. Some spying can be turned off, but most cetinly not all. And the MS start-button is an advetisment-billboard. Win 11 is just like Win 10 - but 200% more of the bad. That is why Win 11 fails. Like Win 8. Best regards.
@@techhub-tv I think everyone, every single user, should both value and worry about privacy. Worry when it comes to companies like MS. I used to think MS was a very trustworthy company (From MS DOS to Win 7). I even bought Win 7 Pro - just to support MS with more income from my purchase. Now I don´t trust MS at all and will never pay them for anything, nor use their spying software Win 11. I was stupid enough to "upgrade" from Win 7 Pro to Win 10, because I was stupid enough to believe Win 10 would be better than Win 7. Best regards.
I've deliberately switched off tpm to block win11 and haven't updated my bios since March this year because I have heard horror stories that Asus removed the tpm off choice, it's hilarious to see windows say my 4 month old high end build can't have win 11
@@techhub-tv I seem to remember win10 was a forced update to win7 so iam taking no chances, I'll take my pc offline after the cut-off date doing all Internet on my phone
@@techhub-tvI own a R5 5600X CPU. I used to never get any windows 11 updates since it was bugged and thought my PC was not compatible. I had done a BIOS update on the motherboard and been getting weekly reminders to upgrade to Windows 11 now. I'm already running Linux mint on another PC and will fully switch over before October 2025.
The Crowdstrike failure shows why TPM 2.0 is _absolutely pointless._ If your OS vendor doesn't completely lock down third party access to the kernel or doesn't give the user a way to lock it down, the TPM is just there for DRM that only hurts the user. Microsoft works against their customers' best interests. That fact alone is enough to jump ship on Windows 11.
If microsoft had competent developers, you would be able to uninstall it. But as it is you can only „disable“ it, which gives microsoft the opportunity to reenable it on every update. There is no need to have it that deeply locked into the operating system.
@@mink99a MS chooses to make it not uninstallable. MS want´s to be able to re-enable it in a "update". And MS do not want anyone to make their own choices regarding to uninstall any of MS spyware and malware. Not even an option to keep the better UI in Win 11, like not having to mouse-click more (compared to Win 10) to do simple everyday tasks. Best regards.
I ran XP for nearly 8 years past it's end-of-life before finally being forced to install Windows 7 x64, when I bought my first >2 tB HDD and discovered that 32-bit Windows XP could not partition that drive. Stuck with Windows 7 for several years past it's end-of-life and am still running it on a couple of 13 year old laptops that don't have enough DRAM or CPU threads to run Windows 10. Only running Windows 10 on my desktop because I started running into websites and software that refused to run on Windows 7. I'd switch to Linux but running too much software that is Windows only, like MSFS-2020, Photoshop CS6, Bentley MicroStation CADD, and Acrobat Pro. Seems like every new version of Windows, the things they add aren't all that useful, and they remove tools that were essential, like the Show Folder Size tool in XP's file explorer that has been missing from every later version.
That's today's mentality in a nutshell. It doesn't matter that the shiny new thing doesn't work as well as the old one. It's new and it's shiny and therefore it's better. The only time I've had to come to grips with a new version of Windows is when I've bought a new system. I have always believed that a PC should die with the same OS it was born with.
I google what "Blackrock" is.. it seems to be some kind of investment-company? I have no idea what they do or what they have done. I take it, from you comment, that Blackrock is not trustworthy? But I know Win 11 is a disaster and that no users want the "upgraded" UI that MS made, witch massively more irritating and time-consuming mouse-clicks to do simple everyday tasks, as well as much more spyware than in Win 10. ... Win 7 was the last OS MS did, in my opinion. Best regards.
The horrendous UI is what keeps me on 10. Everything, EVERYTHING takes longer and more mouse clicks to achieve. They wiped out so much of what made 10 so usable, and added so much junk that not only nobody asked for, but when faced with it, nobody liked. From truncated context menus, to the appalling start menu, we just hate it. Ironically it runs brilliantly on my first gen Surface Pro of 11 years ago.
Moved all my family and friends PCs/Laptops from Windows 7/10 to Linux Mint. Much more stable, easier to control, and less resource intensive. For what we do, we don't need software outside of Chrome, Edge, Firefox, Open Office, and basic file management. I do some light CAD work with Sketchup 2017 which works great under Bottles, same for some Steam Gaming via Proton.
Linux 2+ years ago. Never going back, windows has been erased from all of my computers. Not at all interested in the microsoft spy ware, and it's only going to get worse when they force 12 on everyone.
@ That is true. I agree. Also the total amount of resources over the a given time, e.g. the software lifetime, should be counted. For example IT-services, licenses etc. Risk of cyber attack and what effects an attack would have on a company or a person. And of course it is prohibiting to migrate if a critical software is not supported. I would like to read scientific reports of the cost of different alternatives, for different user-cases. Best regards.
I can't tell if Microsoft is being incompetent or malicious the past decade but I know 1 thing we are all fed up and sick of it. They are gonna learn the hard way you can't control your customers they will always find a way around your bull shit and if they can't they may even go to a competitor to spite you.
I guess for the majority, it's still just a matter of convenience. And most likely, upgrade requests will become much more "rough" after EoL. So all "regular" users and consumers will simply upgrade or get new PCs
… in my setup, as a (home) studio setup, each update cost between 10 and 20% performance, which had to be compensated by investing into new hardware, just to keep it running, and without any improvements for what i am doing with my pc.
Linux DE's have been wildly more secure than windows for decades without tpm, secure boot, and without e-wasting trillions of pounds of perfectly functioning hardware by 2025. Security reasons are no excuse. Gaming is also noticeably worse and AMD CPU's are still suffering performance wise.
Windows 11 really ads nothing. My household has 4 Linux PCs, 4 iOS phones, 2 iPad os tablets, 2 android tablets, and 1 Windows PC. Right now the Windows PC runs our TV, and when Windows 10 runs out of support, it seems pretty hard to justify the upgrade. I don't think there is a TPM header on the ITX motherboard in it, and for the few proprietary things we run, it just makes way more sense if we are going to have to buy new hardware anyway to just replace it with a Mac mini, and if we need to run a game on our TV just stream it from one of the Linux PCs.
W11 has "Vista problem" - HW requirements that are not in many peoples possesion already and really nothing that would justify making the upgrade. Maybe even less so that W11 has some features of W10 removed and "performance anomalies" for some hardware parts (AMD CPUs). The end of support might push somebody who is in need of upgrading PC (and companies that are required to run on "supported system"), but nothing else, there are people using W7 and XP today...
@@techhub-tv There is no convenience at play there, they would love to make the employees happy, but you can not have "certified development process" on unsupported OS (you also need that for linux OS, not any random linux is OK, only few maintained distros are, like RHEL or SLE). And this is not even mainly for covering their a***, the customers often demand the certificates before you even get considered as SW supplier.
Oh, they're upgrading their obvioxiousness levels. I'm getting fullscreen popups now that tell me that I should really upgrade (or else), along with complaining that my machine can't handle it (It can, i just never bothered to edit the bios settings). As a gamer, there's just no reason whatsoever for me to "upgrade" to 11 at this point, so i wont.
@@techhub-tv you have to upgrade to windows 11 - windows 10 will no longer be supported from late next year so you just have to put up with it 1. have one disc for the operating system - have other discs for data 2 . get SSD disc cloning software. clone windows 11 the first time you upgrade and it works out well - store that extra SSD well. it will come in handy 3. get backup software, enable Pre OS environment and back up your OS at least once a week incrementally. Store you backups on the extra discs (not the OS drive), preferably a portable SSD 4. Get a synchronization tool to sync any important files from your desktop or any folder on the C drive - assuming you are installing W11 on C 5. do not activate immediate updates.. let unwise people be Guinea pigs/ lab rats for Microsoft 6. give it a year, i am sure windows 11 will improve - in the meantime, acknowledge much as you are suffering, you are much better than the poor souls in Gaza or Ukraine.. take heart Microsoft has redefined the expression " no pain, no gain"
Hi! Mint has been the best experience for me. It depends on your preference.. but for me, Mint that is the best distro. I have dual-boot with Mint and Win 10, but with two separate physical drives (I prefer to no partition one physical drive to dual-boot). I downloaded the Mint iso with the desktop "Cinnamon Edition". Actually I also tried Mint Debian Edition - which worked great for me (also Cinnamon desktop). I think Mint Debian will be my OS. I have tried Ubuntu, Manjaro, Fedora, POP! OS. Maybe some more distros. With best regards. //M
At this point, I'm beginning to wonder if them circulating between making a Windows that's meh and then a Windows that's really good (in comparison to the previous one) is a part of their marketing strategy. Like downplaying someone to lower their expectations before making your actual offer.
Well... to be honest In a time we live in, I don't think anyone thinks too much about how to make a great operating system for users. Windows has become just like a shell to feed other business, which very often contradicts privacy. But majority of people and average Joe will still use it.
All of my 12th gen computers are able to run Windows 11, I disabled TPM in the BIOS so they can't run that hot garbage from Microshaft. I'm moving to Linux Mint.
@@ares23dc I bought Process Lasso Pro to get around Win 10 not being "able" to run E-cores, so now the E-cores functions perfectly in Win 10. MS will not get me to so called "upgrade" to their spyware and advertisment-billboard Win 11, that MS call an "operating system". The last OS MS released was Win 7... Best regards 🙂
I switched to Linux 1 month ago. It's simply better. I tried win 11 but I couldn't stand it. It's becoming more and more like mac and I hate it. Then you have the ads for their damn services that pop out all the time.
@@techhub-tv installing windows 10 on core 2 duo wasn't technically supported either, ms support for oldest version of 10 starts with 5th gen of core processors , did it stop people from using it on older computers? not really
no i dont care about losing support or whatever people really do make to big a deal out of it just stay of the kind of sites you know you shouldnt be on anyway and youll be fine.
I keep using windows (not all the time) because of photoshop and solidworks.... But I think I'll gonna switch permanently on Linux. The big reason for me not to switch to Win 11 is that I should use online account or tricks.. Yes I still can use ofline account, but the fact that I should use the tricks, make me thing that they will try to force me to use online one. And also the visual "upgrade" actually is complete disaster for me, the lack of titles in the taskbar was so anouing... So Microsoft made a big upgrade to the Linux comunity with WIN11...
Security functions are more than they appear, and the attacks against windows security are not trivial. They likely are not disclosing everything they've changed and are stricken with a sense of urgency to get these new things in place in the face of the hack attacks. The new frontier is the invasion of BIOS and UEFI and other primary functions by which the entire machine can be affected. It is no longer sufficient to run a firewall or antivirus/antimalware program, something more fundamental at the appropriate level has to intervene to protect a machine. The new processors are not cheap, and you can't force people to spend thousands just to play games or write emails.
Why would anyone in the right mind want to buy a personal data collection operating system, which automatically sells your information to the highest bidder. No thank you, Microsoft sucks and I am with Linux now.
Personally, I've just move to Linux. I was already moving back and for between Windows 10 and Linux. I prefer Linux overall, specially for working, but I needed Win to play my games. Thanks to proton, that is no longer a problem.
for me it was the new interface. what I wanted was for windows 10 dark mode to be completed, with every last dialog and alert going dark, what we got was rehashed chromebook. which I hate. I eventually got start11 to replicate the 10 UI the way I like it and have starting switching to 11 in my home studio. 'switch to linux' was not an option for me as my workflow involves Cubase with dozens of instances of Kontakt.
@@techhub-tv ouch. Well, is possible, check out ways to cut off their silly subscription. 'm sure you're aware of the Adobe alternatives, but my fav, Affinity, isn't Linux either so a Win 10 machine persists.
Really the TPM part only makes sense when you take into account what Microsoft's AI Recall does otherwise it is useless for home users. So for most users it is a useless but required chip as most will not and/or cannot use the feature the only reason I can see TPM being used for is on windows 11 Home. For most users when their computer breaks is when they will get windows 11. As computers can last 5 to 10 years or if you are lucky going on 11 years for my machine the computer will not get replaced any time soon. I think when their machine breaks which selling hardware which breaks in only a few years will make people not go with them so PC prebuilts are made to last 3 to 5 years though with a little tweaking you can extend it to 5 to 10 mostly by getting rid of the bloatware. So computers even the ones you get from the store can last 5 years which is coming up right now though with some simple steps that on not all computers have to be done to have it last longer.
on my laptop windows 11 i had to use dos command codes to fix things they took out of windows 10. basicly they made it for people that dont know what they are doing. i need more stuff when i right click . i dont wanna have to click again to expand it. INSANE lol. my pc will stay win 10 i just keep a backup c drive and if i get a virus or something i just redo my computer to day 1.
Main reason is that I use software that does not work on windows 11. I have 2 laptops and a desktop pc. One of the laptops has windows 10 and desktop pc has windows 10. One laptop came with windows 11 and that is how I know I use several software that does not work on windows 11. Those run fine on 2 that still run windows 10 but do not run on the windows 11 laptop.
@@angelriveraaviles1143 windows 11 is just buggy so its hard to pinpoint what the problem can be i bought an hp victus with a rtx3060 (came with 11) download a game ive played on 2 diffrent windows 10 pcs halo infinite. for some reason it acted like i had never seen before before screen tearing, textes failing to load, and studders in input. went trough the gambit of divers, reinstalling windows, nothing would fix the game, after finding more bugs in other programs looked up how to downgrade to 10. thankfully you could do it with the 11 key and ever since the system has run perfectly.
@@angelriveraaviles1143 I said it that way because I use often older software that most people dont use anymore. I am talking about programs that are 10 or 20 years old. There are some that still work on windows 10 but crash when I try to launch with windows 11. They are from windows 7 or windows xp period.
TPM is only as good as the programmers who use it at Microsoft. If Microsoft has holes in their code, which they do, firmware attacks are still possible. However, most hackers aren't there to do BIOS hacks on standard desktops, on business, government and military computers, that's different. Most people confuse BIOS / firmware attack with Boot sector and now partition attacks, they are very different in nature and easier to do. TMP and Secure Boot are hilarious at best and never mind at worst. All Microsoft Windows platforms starting with Windows 3.1 up until now have been spying on you, the worst offenders are Windows 11 and 365. I tell you if people could easily shutdown, disable and delete the services like they used to be able to do, Windows would be a much leaner and meaner operating system. Besides... Who actually uses Microsoft Gaming Services and X-Box crap on their PCs? Why is it forced on people? If I get an X-Box One, I won't interface with my PC and don't want to.
Windows 11 takes away a lot of functionality. e.g. Toolbars. Also the ability to launch Android apps (Windows Subsystem for Android) is being dropped. And then there's the privacy issues with Microsoft having to walk back software that continually snapshots your desktop - ironic for a company pushing security with TPM. That's because it's not about security at all - it's about them controlling your machine.
Windows 11 break the most important service I use 'print spooler'. They also have UI bugs and they're planning to nuke control panel. So I degrade my laptop and pc in windows 10, and planning to dual boot to linux.
Very good video and easy explanation to all the questions I have been asking myself, like WHY UPGRADE? your conclusions are exactly what I had been thinking, that until support is withdrawn in 2025, and Windows 10 is working, go with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" Thanku for excellent video.
I am currently planning on switching to Linux completly until next October when Win10 supports ends. I used Linux years before windows 11, but it was never an alternative for me. through the Steam Deck I got really used to it and thought it can be a good idea to test on an old Laptop again. So currently my Gaming PC and the Gaming Laptop of my GF are the last windows machines here, evrythin else is allready Linux. I think we all should thank Valve for doing such a great job on supporting and pushing Linux to Gamers who all can now evaluate Linux as a new Alternative. If this continues, we may have 20% Linux Users in the next 10 years. Greetings from Germany
Mmm personally don’t think that 20% is achievable unless something drastically changes ( which could easily happen in times we live in ) Simply because absolute majority is just a careless consumer who will buy their laptop with win11 inside simply for convenience and will not look back. And there is still lack of app support, which will always be there. We may like it or not, but Linux will be less convenient for average Joe
@@techhub-tv "but Linux will be less convenient for average Joe" with this very argument everybody said the Steam Deck will go down in History as a complete failure. Even Chromebooks are just Linux Machines with shiny Google Colours. We allready have the examples what could be possible.
The problem I have is they keep saying security this and security that then they force "RECALL ON US" which is a huge security risk to me. Some people may say recall is not a requirement it will be. Between the Vista joke, 7 I loved, Then back to the tragedies 8 and 8.1 classic Windows screw ups, 10 had problems when it fist came out still has a few but a good operating system I've just had enough. So I installed Linux on one of my old laptops and have been learning how to use it. Come sept 2025 I will build a new PC to run Linux and it will never have had Widows on it period. "GOOD RIDDANCE TO WINDOWS"
I will never switch to 11, I'll stay on 10 long after "support" ends. I'm a high end user, I'm an IT, I don't need updates or security. I have all of that crap off, I run on Administrator, no UAC.
Sadly MS went on that direction when the developed and released Win 8. And it only got worse regarding spyware with Win 10 and with not caring what their customers needs and want in Win 11... Win 7 was the last real OS that MS released.. perhaps ever. Best regards.
Win 11 interface - no win 10 start available, otherwise I'd upgrade straight away. The hardware requirements are OK if you delve more deeply, Win 11 compatibility is there, hidden, as far back as the z170 mobo.
Well, they did say that Xbox 360 couldn't run without a Kinect at one point... But money talks, and when their shareholders start getting cold feet seeing their sales figures, I'm sure they'll rethink their approach, just like they did with Windows 8, vista, etc. I mean, they will happily support windows XP to this day if you pay then enough (like the US military does), so what's stopping them from extending the lifetime of the operating system that's already their best selling product.
To be honest, despite the fact that right now, the rate of win11 is low and slow, I really think this will change next year. I guess we can expect a much more aggressive push with notifications like Win10 will get EoL soon - Upgrade now.
I use Windows 11 for work. It’s fine. It’s much less customisable. I prefer Windows 10 and I see no reason to spend my money to upgrade a perfectly good machine with many years of life still in it in order to meet Microsoft’s arbitrary hardware requirements
I am behind a good firewall and also have a strong policy of conduct, thus, I will not upgrade. I have some computers with Windows 11 but unused. I prefer Linux. And, if really needed, a virtual machine.
Windows 11 might be adopted better if it dropped the stupid processor requirement. I think the TPM requirement is actually valid, but they *originally* toyed with the idea of letting owners of TPM 1.2 to get Windows 11 before cancelling that... Funny enough, if you get a LEGIT Windows 11 ISO and try to install it on a system after 2013 with UEFI and Secure Boot along with TPM 1.2 it won't fight you...
It's NOT TPM, IT'S THE START MENU AND DESKTOP. So I plan on using 10 until EOL, then switching using a debloated ISO and all the hacks to fix the UI. That said, I'm currently using tumbleweed Linux, and none of the other distros are worth using at all. Dual boot is fine, but games with raytracing need Windows. Linux comes close, but not close enough, and it is not simple to fix anything that doesn't work.
Thank god for Win 7. But Win 8 was a massive failure for MS, not anyone (almost) "upgraded" to Win 8 from Win 7 - with extremely good reason to not do that. Are you not at least using Win 8.1? Or are you using Win 8.0 on tablets, perhaps? Best regards.
aaaaalmost but not quite from my perspective if a windows 11 interface alone was better than 10 many people would transition even on "unsupported hardware" because there are ways to do so but if interface is similar enough but somewhat infuriating, many ways of doing stuff on the system is removed in favor of not yet proven tools. and every update seems to be a way of microsoft fighting with the user so the computer looks like microsoft want and not how user want it is no wonder people on supported hardware don't switch or go back rater than leming march into shiny new os we were lied once that windows 10 was the last windows so now we waiting for 12
Do not forget Windows 12 coming soon and from my resources they being told Windows 12 should be out between October 2024 to February 2025 with features that my resources said would better than what we got now. One these features are file system structure and improvements a whole file system structure that you will find on Linux operating systems. Note: you have to take what is told with a grain of salt. Windows 12 has be kept very hush hush. So much real information about it. I love Linux more but I need to use Windows due to certain applications I use do not run on Linux.
I am afraid that Win 12, if released, will be even worse than Win 11 - if this is indeed possible. I am hoping (but do not believe) Win 12 would be as good as Win 7 - meaning a true OS, that has the end-user and companies needs in focus. No spyware. No advertisement-billboard. Privacy and trustworthy. UI that people want to use. Discrete and in the background, doing the operating system-things. As you can tell it is very highly unlikely what any future, if released, Win 12 will be a true OS. Because Win 7 was the last true OS that MS made. Best regards.
I can't believe you didn't even mention the fact that Microsoft themselves will be offering regular consumers a paid annual subscription for Windows 10 updates up to 3 years. Sure the Business and Enterprise prices are outrageously expensive, but I'm thinking a lot of people will be waiting to see what the prices will be for regular users, if they don't want to jump to Linux.
About Oct 2024, I got scared about the "Co-Pilot" crap and the "AI" crap.... The amount of spying is an OVERLOAD of privacy violations!!! I did like any SANE person would do... I switched to Linux! My Dell wouldn't take 11 even if I tried to get it, but fortunately, LINUX would take it! I run Linux Zorin and have been 110% HAPPIER since then! TAKE THAT BIG BILLY HATES!!!!!
My PC supports Windows 11 and update notifications to shift Windows 11 but still to stay in decision Windows 10 which i loved old opening systems bcz it's super buttery smooth no problem at all moreover, until Windows 10 I loved it but Windows 10 doesn't love me until she leave me count down starts at next year 14th of October 2025 :(
"Upgrade" ? more like "Downgrade" :d Recall... TPM... more clicks to do the same job as on win 10... everything hidden behind "Show more options"... and the requirements... ew, i hated to even go to win 10 with all the clunkiness, honestly i've been using win 8.1 (win 8.0 was very bad so ew), and i loved it, idc others say its bad, it was very fine for me, if i could, i would stay on it, or even better... win 7 !
Windows 11 is ugly it looks like a knock off of OSX and the only cool feature it offered being able to get android apps for it got watered down completely and then quietly dropped
Windows 11 works fine. With an offline account, TPM disabled after install and ExplorerPatcher I can't even notice the difference between Win10 and 11. People are mostly scared about nothing.
The GUI and user interface of Windows 11 looks heaps better than 10 - I was on Windows 7 - the look and feel was one of the best while 8, 8.1 and 10 all felt clunky or trying to fix what 8 Started. Same as when Vista was bloated then Win 7 came along and was the new Xp. I'm surprised that more don't try it. You must install a custom installer with all windows to give them the hardening treatment but after the horrible 8 , 8.1 (actually Win 9) trying to create a fix, Win 10 was that usable fix. Windows 11 - when properly set up - is a standout like Win 7 and Xp was. Don't knock it until you Properly try it.
Win 7 was the last real OS Microsoft made, maybe ever. In my opinion Win 7 is the best Windows. I trusted and supported Microsoft from MS Dos on 386 to Windows 7 - right until they released Win 8. Since then Microsoft have never again earned that trust and support. Best regards.
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used windows 11 for 2 years now (Dec 22-Dec 24) and recently, I downgraded [or well, upgraded] to windows 10.
The thing that I hated so much was that half of the customization on windows 10 was literally just gone on windows 11.
Current PC came with Windows 8.1 with free upgrade to windows 10. I still miss the simplicity of Windows 7.
I switched to Linux Mint because of Windows 11.
Ahh I need some apps.. as example Adobe
@@techhub-tv Linux can run older versions of Adobe, if you are willing to sail the 7 seas. I might try it this weekend and get back to you.
@@techhub-tv Nobody needs Adobe
@@techhub-tv Yeah, that's a tough one. I made a spreadsheet of all apps I used and researched if they were on Linux or had a substitute. With the exception of a few Steam games, I was good. In fact, some of the apps on the Linux side are far superior.
Same here but Ubuntu. Well, Ubuntu is often criticized on Linux forums/by Linux YTbers mostly because of SNAP but I don't care. Ubuntu works great for me and does everything I want from it. Mint would be the same as well. I don't think there's much difference in everyday use. I eventually ended up bingewatching Linux tutorials on YT and learned how to use the terminal and now I'm pretty comfortable with it. I don't use snap at all anyway, I install everything with apt. I'm not feeling like setting up a new OS install again so I'll stick with Ubuntu for some time but if I ever feel like or simply need to do a new install, I'll actually try out Debian. Back when I was deciding to switch to Linux all I wanted was an OS that works and does not piss me off. But I've learned a little bit about Linux now and the priorities have changed. But no matter which Linux distribution one has chosen, it's great to see how much Linux is giving older hardware a new life.
99,999% of youtube comments " I switched to Linux"
I wonder why so small % mention mac
@@techhub-tv i guess the missing 2500€ for an "ok" macbook
@@sorengeti69 i mean, thats one thing...
another is that windows is a semi-locked os, and macos is a fully locked os... however, linux is free to customize however you want...
@@Casual.Gamer_0000 but a locked os is good bc its optimized for the hardware
@@techhub-tv The expense and games on that platform are still lagging behind.
How is 11 "cleaner"? There's crap that no one asked for all over the task bar, the start menu is in the middle.....I don't even...lol
the number 1 reason people are not upgrading is. Windows is trying to hardware lock your computer in the bios level to use windows. 11 a security nightmare on the same level of the spy ware infested windows 10 iso available on torrent sites. Windows has decided they want to try and force a mac or android level control over your os choices. If you had a dual boot you know why you finally deleted the windows partition.
I'm upgrading to Linux from Windows 10, completely done with Microsoft and their shady nonsense.
I agree with you and I get why you upgrade to Linux. I´m doing the same. But. Windows 10 is actually shady nonsense, because of the spying and the advertisement-billboard of the start menu, as well as the only thing making Windows 10 better now is because MS do not "upgrade" the features anymore of Windows 10.
Windows 11, however, is bad as Windows 10 - just 200% worse.
The last real OS MS made was Windows 7, in my opinion.
Best regards.
i switched to Garuda Linux in this summer...
i had a friend who helped me iron out the minor issues that came in, and now everything works perfectly.
Sticking to 10 to the very end
When support issues begin, time to install Linux Mint
Aside from the usual issues, the UI issues are what do it for me. I use Windows 11 only for my mini-PC (just because it came with it). When I right-click and want to do an action, half the options are in "Show more options". So, instead of being able to just right-click and do what I want like in previous Windows versions, I now have to scroll down, left-click, then left-click again. It's just annoying, and a downgrade of functionality. I also hate the mouse-over the taskbar showing a tiny preview of apps that are open that's difficult to see, instead of the titles. Just show the titles like in Windows 10, too much mouse movement just to select what I want. You also can't revert any of these issues back to how previous versions behaved, unless you install a 3rd-party app. Productivity just gets slowed down by a thousand little cuts. I just want to click or mouse-over something, then scroll up or down with my mouse and click it, and not have to do a kata every time.
Well.. some things change over time. Everyone will adapt and consider it as new normal
@@techhub-tv you can only push so far though , most people didn't adapt to windows 8, because it was unfamiliar and many changes were rolled back mostly to how things were in xp and before
@@kokodin5895 I'm sure they'll put the start button back to the side in Windows 12.
@@techhub-tv but if the changes are considerably annoying and driven by ill intention(forced upgrade n money involved), people deserve to push back instead of "adapt" and consider it "normal".
@@techhub-tv No, I don´t agree. First: there are 3rd party software that fixes the downgrade that Windows 11 makes. Second: the downgrades of Win 11 are not small things, it´s a UI that nobody wants and MS just don´t care about this. And third: Windows 7 was the last OS that MS made, Win 8 were (as Win 11) a MS decision what people want and use - and Win 8 flopped massively.
Win 10 is a spying OS without any option for normal users to turn of -all- the spying. Some spying can be turned off, but most cetinly not all. And the MS start-button is an advetisment-billboard.
Win 11 is just like Win 10 - but 200% more of the bad.
That is why Win 11 fails. Like Win 8.
Best regards.
The invasiveness and controlling aspects of the EULA for me! The introduction of "Recall" said it all. That was a redline. So long Microsoft!
Yeah.. recall is a nasty thing for those who worry about privacy
@@techhub-tv I think everyone, every single user, should both value and worry about privacy. Worry when it comes to companies like MS. I used to think MS was a very trustworthy company (From MS DOS to Win 7). I even bought Win 7 Pro - just to support MS with more income from my purchase. Now I don´t trust MS at all and will never pay them for anything, nor use their spying software Win 11. I was stupid enough to "upgrade" from Win 7 Pro to Win 10, because I was stupid enough to believe Win 10 would be better than Win 7.
Best regards.
I've deliberately switched off tpm to block win11 and haven't updated my bios since March this year because I have heard horror stories that Asus removed the tpm off choice, it's hilarious to see windows say my 4 month old high end build can't have win 11
I recently changed CPU, and completely forgot that now it is supported for upgrade, but I have not seen a single notification about that.
@@techhub-tv I seem to remember win10 was a forced update to win7 so iam taking no chances, I'll take my pc offline after the cut-off date doing all Internet on my phone
@@techhub-tvI own a R5 5600X CPU. I used to never get any windows 11 updates since it was bugged and thought my PC was not compatible. I had done a BIOS update on the motherboard and been getting weekly reminders to upgrade to Windows 11 now. I'm already running Linux mint on another PC and will fully switch over before October 2025.
The Crowdstrike failure shows why TPM 2.0 is _absolutely pointless._ If your OS vendor doesn't completely lock down third party access to the kernel or doesn't give the user a way to lock it down, the TPM is just there for DRM that only hurts the user.
Microsoft works against their customers' best interests. That fact alone is enough to jump ship on Windows 11.
crowdstrike problem is exactly related to access to the kernel for 3d party developers.
If you give them root, no TPM will save you
🤨 *_Windows Recall_** taking screenshots every few seconds is also a major problem with 11...*
Yeah this makes me not want to upgrade either (and I doubt my laptop has the right requirements). Any idea if you can block recall entirely?
If microsoft had competent developers, you would be able to uninstall it. But as it is you can only „disable“ it, which gives microsoft the opportunity to reenable it on every update. There is no need to have it that deeply locked into the operating system.
@@mink99a MS chooses to make it not uninstallable. MS want´s to be able to re-enable it in a "update". And MS do not want anyone to make their own choices regarding to uninstall any of MS spyware and malware. Not even an option to keep the better UI in Win 11, like not having to mouse-click more (compared to Win 10) to do simple everyday tasks. Best regards.
I ran XP for nearly 8 years past it's end-of-life before finally being forced to install Windows 7 x64, when I bought my first >2 tB HDD and discovered that 32-bit Windows XP could not partition that drive. Stuck with Windows 7 for several years past it's end-of-life and am still running it on a couple of 13 year old laptops that don't have enough DRAM or CPU threads to run Windows 10. Only running Windows 10 on my desktop because I started running into websites and software that refused to run on Windows 7.
I'd switch to Linux but running too much software that is Windows only, like MSFS-2020, Photoshop CS6, Bentley MicroStation CADD, and Acrobat Pro. Seems like every new version of Windows, the things they add aren't all that useful, and they remove tools that were essential, like the Show Folder Size tool in XP's file explorer that has been missing from every later version.
That's today's mentality in a nutshell. It doesn't matter that the shiny new thing doesn't work as well as the old one. It's new and it's shiny and therefore it's better. The only time I've had to come to grips with a new version of Windows is when I've bought a new system. I have always believed that a PC should die with the same OS it was born with.
I was on windows 11 pro but I switched to Linux mint when I recently found out that Microsoft is in business with blackrock. So I'm out.
I google what "Blackrock" is.. it seems to be some kind of investment-company? I have no idea what they do or what they have done. I take it, from you comment, that Blackrock is not trustworthy?
But I know Win 11 is a disaster and that no users want the "upgraded" UI that MS made, witch massively more irritating and time-consuming mouse-clicks to do simple everyday tasks, as well as much more spyware than in Win 10. ...
Win 7 was the last OS MS did, in my opinion. Best regards.
The horrendous UI is what keeps me on 10. Everything, EVERYTHING takes longer and more mouse clicks to achieve. They wiped out so much of what made 10 so usable, and added so much junk that not only nobody asked for, but when faced with it, nobody liked. From truncated context menus, to the appalling start menu, we just hate it.
Ironically it runs brilliantly on my first gen Surface Pro of 11 years ago.
Moved all my family and friends PCs/Laptops from Windows 7/10 to Linux Mint. Much more stable, easier to control, and less resource intensive. For what we do, we don't need software outside of Chrome, Edge, Firefox, Open Office, and basic file management. I do some light CAD work with Sketchup 2017 which works great under Bottles, same for some Steam Gaming via Proton.
Yeah.. I think app support might be the only thing holding me back
Linux 2+ years ago. Never going back, windows has been erased from all of my computers. Not at all interested in the microsoft spy ware, and it's only going to get worse when they force 12 on everyone.
I’ll go to Linux mint before I I ever go to 11.
And what is the cost of migrating to a new set of applications ?
@@mink99a On Linux the cost for software is zero, as far as I know. Because of open source. Best regards.
@ Work, time and efforts count as costs too.
@ That is true. I agree.
Also the total amount of resources over the a given time, e.g. the software lifetime, should be counted. For example IT-services, licenses etc. Risk of cyber attack and what effects an attack would have on a company or a person.
And of course it is prohibiting to migrate if a critical software is not supported.
I would like to read scientific reports of the cost of different alternatives, for different user-cases.
Best regards.
I can't tell if Microsoft is being incompetent or malicious the past decade but I know 1 thing we are all fed up and sick of it. They are gonna learn the hard way you can't control your customers they will always find a way around your bull shit and if they can't they may even go to a competitor to spite you.
They just care more about money and less about consumer :) just like majority of things and companies nowdays
Malicious. They are in business with Oracle and Blackrock now .
I won't upgrade since they ruined it. the requirements are stupid. after W10 expires, then Linux will be the next best thing.....
I guess for the majority, it's still just a matter of convenience. And most likely, upgrade requests will become much more "rough" after EoL. So all "regular" users and consumers will simply upgrade or get new PCs
My 'old' system isn't worthy of their b.s. malware OS. Well, their garbage isn't worthy of being in my house.
Mint, Zorin, Debian, Ubuntu, all great options! Family/friends/GF/me have 7 PCs/Laptops running Mint Cinnamon.
@@231pilot thank you for not bashing on Ubuntu like many Linux users do.
@@angelmeier4382 I was about to. Just kidding! I'm testing Kubuntu this weekend.
I dont know how to set up the TPM in BIOS. cant seem to make it work so i gave up
I guess I will have to make a tutorial :)
Windows 7 did .not. Improve performance vs XP on the same machine.
Windows 10 did .not. Improve performance vs 7 on the same machine.
Only in ads.
… in my setup, as a (home) studio setup, each update cost between 10 and 20% performance, which had to be compensated by investing into new hardware, just to keep it running, and without any improvements for what i am doing with my pc.
Linux DE's have been wildly more secure than windows for decades without tpm, secure boot, and without e-wasting trillions of pounds of perfectly functioning hardware by 2025. Security reasons are no excuse. Gaming is also noticeably worse and AMD CPU's are still suffering performance wise.
Everything is so much about making money nowadays.And so little about making something entirely for people
Look what happened to Blizzard…
@@2Dcmbr7 Good example :)
@@2Dcmbr7 WoW is definitely not the same anymore
Windows 11 really ads nothing. My household has 4 Linux PCs, 4 iOS phones, 2 iPad os tablets, 2 android tablets, and 1 Windows PC. Right now the Windows PC runs our TV, and when Windows 10 runs out of support, it seems pretty hard to justify the upgrade. I don't think there is a TPM header on the ITX motherboard in it, and for the few proprietary things we run, it just makes way more sense if we are going to have to buy new hardware anyway to just replace it with a Mac mini, and if we need to run a game on our TV just stream it from one of the Linux PCs.
It adds a lot of new ways how Microsoft can use your data :)
W11 has "Vista problem" - HW requirements that are not in many peoples possesion already and really nothing that would justify making the upgrade. Maybe even less so that W11 has some features of W10 removed and "performance anomalies" for some hardware parts (AMD CPUs). The end of support might push somebody who is in need of upgrading PC (and companies that are required to run on "supported system"), but nothing else, there are people using W7 and XP today...
Companies will definitely enforce w11 if they are on windows path. Nobody cares about convenience there :)
@@techhub-tv There is no convenience at play there, they would love to make the employees happy, but you can not have "certified development process" on unsupported OS (you also need that for linux OS, not any random linux is OK, only few maintained distros are, like RHEL or SLE). And this is not even mainly for covering their a***, the customers often demand the certificates before you even get considered as SW supplier.
They can't force it on someone if they don't have the requisit hardware.
Oh, they're upgrading their obvioxiousness levels. I'm getting fullscreen popups now that tell me that I should really upgrade (or else), along with complaining that my machine can't handle it (It can, i just never bothered to edit the bios settings).
As a gamer, there's just no reason whatsoever for me to "upgrade" to 11 at this point, so i wont.
I nearly dislike windows 11 as windows 8
Omg i just remembered windows 8 😀
Windows 11 is so buggy like German electric cars
When making this video I thought about upgrading to 11 for sake of the content, but now I start to think again :D
@@techhub-tv you have to upgrade to windows 11 - windows 10 will no longer be supported from late next year so you just have to put up with it
1. have one disc for the operating system - have other discs for data
2 . get SSD disc cloning software. clone windows 11 the first time you upgrade and it works out well - store that extra SSD well. it will come in handy
3. get backup software, enable Pre OS environment and back up your OS at least once a week incrementally. Store you backups on the extra discs (not the OS drive), preferably a portable SSD
4. Get a synchronization tool to sync any important files from your desktop or any folder on the C drive - assuming you are installing W11 on C
5. do not activate immediate updates.. let unwise people be Guinea pigs/ lab rats for Microsoft
6. give it a year, i am sure windows 11 will improve - in the meantime, acknowledge much as you are suffering, you are much better than the poor souls in Gaza or Ukraine.. take heart
Microsoft has redefined the expression " no pain, no gain"
Imagine still using Windows at all
Hard NO! Dual boot, here I come. Is Mint the current darling?
Hi!
Mint has been the best experience for me. It depends on your preference.. but for me, Mint that is the best distro.
I have dual-boot with Mint and Win 10, but with two separate physical drives (I prefer to no partition one physical drive to dual-boot).
I downloaded the Mint iso with the desktop "Cinnamon Edition".
Actually I also tried Mint Debian Edition - which worked great for me (also Cinnamon desktop). I think Mint Debian will be my OS.
I have tried Ubuntu, Manjaro, Fedora, POP! OS. Maybe some more distros.
With best regards. //M
At this point, I'm beginning to wonder if them circulating between making a Windows that's meh and then a Windows that's really good (in comparison to the previous one) is a part of their marketing strategy. Like downplaying someone to lower their expectations before making your actual offer.
Well... to be honest In a time we live in, I don't think anyone thinks too much about how to make a great operating system for users. Windows has become just like a shell to feed other business, which very often contradicts privacy. But majority of people and average Joe will still use it.
All of my 12th gen computers are able to run Windows 11, I disabled TPM in the BIOS so they can't run that hot garbage from Microshaft. I'm moving to Linux Mint.
Well, win10 can't properly handle Intel's e-cores. You should put win11 on. For Intel owners with newer machines, win11 is a must.
@@ares23dcbut it can safely run on 12th gen i3-12100/i5-12400 due to lack of E cores
@@ares23dc I bought Process Lasso Pro to get around Win 10 not being "able" to run E-cores, so now the E-cores functions perfectly in Win 10.
MS will not get me to so called "upgrade" to their spyware and advertisment-billboard Win 11, that MS call an "operating system". The last OS MS released was Win 7...
Best regards 🙂
I switched to Linux 1 month ago. It's simply better. I tried win 11 but I couldn't stand it. It's becoming more and more like mac and I hate it. Then you have the ads for their damn services that pop out all the time.
Sadly most of my apps won't work on Linux
@@techhub-tv Ye, but most people could easily switch and barely notice the difference.
You can still install windows 11 even if you dont meet the requirements
Its not recommended tho
@@techhub-tv installing windows 10 on core 2 duo wasn't technically supported either, ms support for oldest version of 10 starts with 5th gen of core processors , did it stop people from using it on older computers? not really
no i dont care about losing support or whatever people really do make to big a deal out of it just stay of the kind of sites you know you shouldnt be on anyway and youll be fine.
I keep using windows (not all the time) because of photoshop and solidworks.... But I think I'll gonna switch permanently on Linux. The big reason for me not to switch to Win 11 is that I should use online account or tricks.. Yes I still can use ofline account, but the fact that I should use the tricks, make me thing that they will try to force me to use online one. And also the visual "upgrade" actually is complete disaster for me, the lack of titles in the taskbar was so anouing... So Microsoft made a big upgrade to the Linux comunity with WIN11...
Upgraded to W11 after using it on my laptops. Functionally it's the same OS just don't like the default options when right clicking on desktop.
I'm a bit afraid that some things will break after upgrade.
@@techhub-tv That's why I only use Enterprise LTSC editions for their stability and long-term support.
Security functions are more than they appear, and the attacks against windows security are not trivial. They likely are not disclosing everything they've changed and are stricken with a sense of urgency to get these new things in place in the face of the hack attacks. The new frontier is the invasion of BIOS and UEFI and other primary functions by which the entire machine can be affected. It is no longer sufficient to run a firewall or antivirus/antimalware program, something more fundamental at the appropriate level has to intervene to protect a machine. The new processors are not cheap, and you can't force people to spend thousands just to play games or write emails.
Installed on May 28 2024 Windows 11 23H2 no problems with updates have old cpu SSE4A running just fine never seen no ads, no snap shots
Why would anyone in the right mind want to buy a personal data collection operating system, which automatically sells your information to the highest bidder. No thank you, Microsoft sucks and I am with Linux now.
Personally, I've just move to Linux. I was already moving back and for between Windows 10 and Linux. I prefer Linux overall, specially for working, but I needed Win to play my games. Thanks to proton, that is no longer a problem.
for me it was the new interface. what I wanted was for windows 10 dark mode to be completed, with every last dialog and alert going dark, what we got was rehashed chromebook. which I hate. I eventually got start11 to replicate the 10 UI the way I like it and have starting switching to 11 in my home studio. 'switch to linux' was not an option for me as my workflow involves Cubase with dozens of instances of Kontakt.
i will use chrome os after win 10.
Because windows 11 is terrible!
No W11 b.s. for me. Debian/Pop/Kubuntu/Endeavor etc. linux for the win. My old Lenovo rocks on Debian.
I need adobe xD
@@techhub-tv ouch. Well, is possible, check out ways to cut off their silly subscription. 'm sure you're aware of the Adobe alternatives, but my fav, Affinity, isn't Linux either so a Win 10 machine persists.
@@techhub-tv No, you WANT adobe xD. LOL
Really the TPM part only makes sense when you take into account what Microsoft's AI Recall does otherwise it is useless for home users. So for most users it is a useless but required chip as most will not and/or cannot use the feature the only reason I can see TPM being used for is on windows 11 Home.
For most users when their computer breaks is when they will get windows 11. As computers can last 5 to 10 years or if you are lucky going on 11 years for my machine the computer will not get replaced any time soon.
I think when their machine breaks which selling hardware which breaks in only a few years will make people not go with them so PC prebuilts are made to last 3 to 5 years though with a little tweaking you can extend it to 5 to 10 mostly by getting rid of the bloatware. So computers even the ones you get from the store can last 5 years which is coming up right now though with some simple steps that on not all computers have to be done to have it last longer.
on my laptop windows 11 i had to use dos command codes to fix things they took out of windows 10. basicly they made it for people that dont know what they are doing. i need more stuff when i right click . i dont wanna have to click again to expand it. INSANE lol. my pc will stay win 10 i just keep a backup c drive and if i get a virus or something i just redo my computer to day 1.
I use arch btw
Main reason is that I use software that does not work on windows 11. I have 2 laptops and a desktop pc. One of the laptops has windows 10 and desktop pc has windows 10. One laptop came with windows 11 and that is how I know I use several software that does not work on windows 11. Those run fine on 2 that still run windows 10 but do not run on the windows 11 laptop.
What kind of software does not work on windows 11?
Yeah I’m also interested.. don’t think it’s true
@@angelriveraaviles1143 windows 11 is just buggy so its hard to pinpoint what the problem can be i bought an hp victus with a rtx3060 (came with 11) download a game ive played on 2 diffrent windows 10 pcs halo infinite. for some reason it acted like i had never seen before before screen tearing, textes failing to load, and studders in input. went trough the gambit of divers, reinstalling windows, nothing would fix the game, after finding more bugs in other programs looked up how to downgrade to 10. thankfully you could do it with the 11 key and ever since the system has run perfectly.
@@angelriveraaviles1143 I said it that way because I use often older software that most people dont use anymore. I am talking about programs that are 10 or 20 years old. There are some that still work on windows 10 but crash when I try to launch with windows 11. They are from windows 7 or windows xp period.
TPM is only as good as the programmers who use it at Microsoft. If Microsoft has holes in their code, which they do, firmware attacks are still possible. However, most hackers aren't there to do BIOS hacks on standard desktops, on business, government and military computers, that's different. Most people confuse BIOS / firmware attack with Boot sector and now partition attacks, they are very different in nature and easier to do. TMP and Secure Boot are hilarious at best and never mind at worst.
All Microsoft Windows platforms starting with Windows 3.1 up until now have been spying on you, the worst offenders are Windows 11 and 365. I tell you if people could easily shutdown, disable and delete the services like they used to be able to do, Windows would be a much leaner and meaner operating system.
Besides... Who actually uses Microsoft Gaming Services and X-Box crap on their PCs? Why is it forced on people? If I get an X-Box One, I won't interface with my PC and don't want to.
Windows 11 takes away a lot of functionality. e.g. Toolbars. Also the ability to launch Android apps (Windows Subsystem for Android) is being dropped. And then there's the privacy issues with Microsoft having to walk back software that continually snapshots your desktop - ironic for a company pushing security with TPM. That's because it's not about security at all - it's about them controlling your machine.
Business above everything:)
my last laptop came with win11.
it was just like win10, but more annoying everywhere.
Windows 11 break the most important service I use 'print spooler'. They also have UI bugs and they're planning to nuke control panel. So I degrade my laptop and pc in windows 10, and planning to dual boot to linux.
Very good video and easy explanation to all the questions I have been asking myself, like WHY UPGRADE? your conclusions are exactly what I had been thinking, that until support is withdrawn in 2025, and Windows 10 is working, go with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" Thanku for excellent video.
I am currently planning on switching to Linux completly until next October when Win10 supports ends. I used Linux years before windows 11, but it was never an alternative for me. through the Steam Deck I got really used to it and thought it can be a good idea to test on an old Laptop again. So currently my Gaming PC and the Gaming Laptop of my GF are the last windows machines here, evrythin else is allready Linux.
I think we all should thank Valve for doing such a great job on supporting and pushing Linux to Gamers who all can now evaluate Linux as a new Alternative. If this continues, we may have 20% Linux Users in the next 10 years.
Greetings from Germany
Mmm personally don’t think that 20% is achievable unless something drastically changes ( which could easily happen in times we live in )
Simply because absolute majority is just a careless consumer who will buy their laptop with win11 inside simply for convenience and will not look back. And there is still lack of app support, which will always be there.
We may like it or not, but Linux will be less convenient for average Joe
@@techhub-tv "but Linux will be less convenient for average Joe"
with this very argument everybody said the Steam Deck will go down in History as a complete failure. Even Chromebooks are just Linux Machines with shiny Google Colours. We allready have the examples what could be possible.
The problem I have is they keep saying security this and security that then they force "RECALL ON US" which is a huge security risk to me. Some people may say recall is not a requirement it will be. Between the Vista joke, 7 I loved, Then back to the tragedies 8 and 8.1 classic Windows screw ups, 10 had problems when it fist came out still has a few but a good operating system I've just had enough. So I installed Linux on one of my old laptops and have been learning how to use it. Come sept 2025 I will build a new PC to run Linux and it will never have had Widows on it period. "GOOD RIDDANCE TO WINDOWS"
I will never switch to 11, I'll stay on 10 long after "support" ends. I'm a high end user, I'm an IT, I don't need updates or security. I have all of that crap off, I run on Administrator, no UAC.
If it's not broken, don't fix it!
I will be moving to Linux, I don't like the direction Microsoft is going.
That's a very frequent answer. Unfortunately I'm tied to apps that don't run on Linux
Sadly MS went on that direction when the developed and released Win 8. And it only got worse regarding spyware with Win 10 and with not caring what their customers needs and want in Win 11...
Win 7 was the last real OS that MS released.. perhaps ever.
Best regards.
Win 11 interface - no win 10 start available, otherwise I'd upgrade straight away.
The hardware requirements are OK if you delve more deeply, Win 11 compatibility is there, hidden, as far back as the z170 mobo.
Why you think that PRESSURE is needed to change? Go look into a mirror and press S.
I switched to MacOS 3 years ago
Well, they did say that Xbox 360 couldn't run without a Kinect at one point... But money talks, and when their shareholders start getting cold feet seeing their sales figures, I'm sure they'll rethink their approach, just like they did with Windows 8, vista, etc. I mean, they will happily support windows XP to this day if you pay then enough (like the US military does), so what's stopping them from extending the lifetime of the operating system that's already their best selling product.
To be honest, despite the fact that right now, the rate of win11 is low and slow, I really think this will change next year. I guess we can expect a much more aggressive push with notifications like Win10 will get EoL soon - Upgrade now.
I use Windows 11 for work. It’s fine. It’s much less customisable. I prefer Windows 10 and I see no reason to spend my money to upgrade a perfectly good machine with many years of life still in it in order to meet Microsoft’s arbitrary hardware requirements
You will continue to use it even after EoL of 10?
I am behind a good firewall and also have a strong policy of conduct, thus, I will not upgrade.
I have some computers with Windows 11 but unused. I prefer Linux. And, if really needed, a virtual machine.
thank you
Windows 11 might be adopted better if it dropped the stupid processor requirement.
I think the TPM requirement is actually valid, but they *originally* toyed with the idea of letting owners of TPM 1.2 to get Windows 11 before cancelling that... Funny enough, if you get a LEGIT Windows 11 ISO and try to install it on a system after 2013 with UEFI and Secure Boot along with TPM 1.2 it won't fight you...
It's NOT TPM, IT'S THE START MENU AND DESKTOP. So I plan on using 10 until EOL, then switching using a debloated ISO and all the hacks to fix the UI. That said, I'm currently using tumbleweed Linux, and none of the other distros are worth using at all. Dual boot is fine, but games with raytracing need Windows. Linux comes close, but not close enough, and it is not simple to fix anything that doesn't work.
100% Agree about Linux
Still Using Windows 7 and 8.0 In 2025
Thank god for Win 7. But Win 8 was a massive failure for MS, not anyone (almost) "upgraded" to Win 8 from Win 7 - with extremely good reason to not do that.
Are you not at least using Win 8.1? Or are you using Win 8.0 on tablets, perhaps?
Best regards.
I'm also prefer win10 insted of 11, but using MacOS as my primary more than 5 years already, and happy
Same actually :) only workstation left on windows is the one where I record my videos. Just because it works now
aaaaalmost but not quite
from my perspective if a windows 11 interface alone was better than 10 many people would transition even on "unsupported hardware" because there are ways to do so
but if interface is similar enough but somewhat infuriating, many ways of doing stuff on the system is removed in favor of not yet proven tools. and every update seems to be a way of microsoft fighting with the user so the computer looks like microsoft want and not how user want
it is no wonder people on supported hardware don't switch or go back rater than leming march into shiny new os
we were lied once that windows 10 was the last windows so now we waiting for 12
Do not forget Windows 12 coming soon and from my resources they being told Windows 12 should be out between October 2024 to February 2025 with features that my resources said would better than what we got now. One these features are file system structure and improvements a whole file system structure that you will find on Linux operating systems. Note: you have to take what is told with a grain of salt. Windows 12 has be kept very hush hush. So much real information about it. I love Linux more but I need to use Windows due to certain applications I use do not run on Linux.
Probably win12 will come q3 or q4 of 2025
I am afraid that Win 12, if released, will be even worse than Win 11 - if this is indeed possible.
I am hoping (but do not believe) Win 12 would be as good as Win 7 - meaning a true OS, that has the end-user and companies needs in focus. No spyware. No advertisement-billboard. Privacy and trustworthy. UI that people want to use. Discrete and in the background, doing the operating system-things.
As you can tell it is very highly unlikely what any future, if released, Win 12 will be a true OS. Because Win 7 was the last true OS that MS made.
Best regards.
I can't believe you didn't even mention the fact that Microsoft themselves will be offering regular consumers a paid annual subscription for Windows 10 updates up to 3 years. Sure the Business and Enterprise prices are outrageously expensive, but I'm thinking a lot of people will be waiting to see what the prices will be for regular users, if they don't want to jump to Linux.
Somehow I missed that. Thanks for pointing out
Strange... Look in companies...
Companies mostly purchase new hw which already comes with win11
any thing 12 gen or higher does work better w11 my 12 gen cpu is crap on w10
About Oct 2024, I got scared about the "Co-Pilot" crap and the "AI" crap.... The amount of spying is an OVERLOAD of privacy violations!!! I did like any SANE person would do... I switched to Linux! My Dell wouldn't take 11 even if I tried to get it, but fortunately, LINUX would take it! I run Linux Zorin and have been 110% HAPPIER since then! TAKE THAT BIG BILLY HATES!!!!!
My PC supports Windows 11 and update notifications to shift Windows 11 but still to stay in decision Windows 10 which i loved old opening systems bcz it's super buttery smooth no problem at all moreover, until Windows 10 I loved it but Windows 10 doesn't love me until she leave me count down starts at next year 14th of October 2025 :(
They should be obligated to support the systems that they sold us
They do. Till the end of support cycle.
So , can’t use my keyboard to get in Social Sercurity ; ???
What do you mean?
@@techhub-tv Well a friend watched a video that showed ho to change the registry that had one number changed somehow , all good now
Windows 11… 2025 year… first, we need to live until 10.2025 😁 I don’t now what will be tomorrow 🤣
microsoft sticks to tip tow strategy > xp/good >vista/noGood > 7/good > 8/noGood > 10/good > 11/noGood > so 12 gonna get great again :)
"Upgrade" ? more like "Downgrade" :d
Recall... TPM... more clicks to do the same job as on win 10... everything hidden behind "Show more options"... and the requirements... ew, i hated to even go to win 10 with all the clunkiness, honestly i've been using win 8.1 (win 8.0 was very bad so ew), and i loved it, idc others say its bad, it was very fine for me, if i could, i would stay on it, or even better... win 7 !
Bring good old XP times ;)
Yes
I am waiting for Windows 12 and hoping it will be good.
Hmm.. that could be expected somewhere in Q3/Q4 next year. MIght be worth to make some video about rumours and leaks :)
Windows 11 is ugly it looks like a knock off of OSX and the only cool feature it offered being able to get android apps for it got watered down completely and then quietly dropped
Windows 11 works fine. With an offline account, TPM disabled after install and ExplorerPatcher I can't even notice the difference between Win10 and 11. People are mostly scared about nothing.
Average Joe will not be able to do that :)
The GUI and user interface of Windows 11 looks heaps better than 10 - I was on Windows 7 - the look and feel was one of the best while 8, 8.1 and 10 all felt clunky or trying to fix what 8 Started. Same as when Vista was bloated then Win 7 came along and was the new Xp. I'm surprised that more don't try it. You must install a custom installer with all windows to give them the hardening treatment but after the horrible 8 , 8.1 (actually Win 9) trying to create a fix, Win 10 was that usable fix. Windows 11 - when properly set up - is a standout like Win 7 and Xp was. Don't knock it until you Properly try it.
It’s hard to convince yourself to try something new when existing one perfectly satisfies all the needs of
I can TLDR this, its trash
sort of )
But i like windows 11, it isn't that bad
Not great not terrible could be a very precise description:)
I swear the people aren't upgrading are the same kind of people saying windows xp is still the best OS. Just upgrade if you can. Change is good...
They upgraded to Linux. Some change is good. Forced change generally not.
@@Account.for.Comment Very well said. Best regards.
Win 7 was the last real OS Microsoft made, maybe ever. In my opinion Win 7 is the best Windows.
I trusted and supported Microsoft from MS Dos on 386 to Windows 7 - right until they released Win 8. Since then Microsoft have never again earned that trust and support.
Best regards.