Fun fact - this will also slowly give trade power in that node over to countries that are eligible to effect the bonus to goods produced in that node. If you’re Trade Companying that node, every single one of them will have close to +100% goods produced from other merchant republics and trade companies in the node. So, even the provinces you’re feeding away to do this will be producing plenty of trade value for you.
If your going to go for highest income, you're going to want to find a way to throttle your income on demand; if you make more than 1.3 mill a month or something it inverts and makes you lose 1 mill a month actually leading to bankruptcy
Yeah I saw that on Zlewikks Aragon run... quite absurd but anyways xd I guess the easiest way to do it would be to lead all your Money into an End Node where you are not collecting (such as Venice) and then change all the Trade to your Main Node again whenever you were ready to hit the highest Number possible... But I never tested it so it is just an idea :)
ya know, just yesterday I was playing an MP-round with some friends and out of all the players, two were aiming to dominate trade: Great Britain(me) and Italy. The Italy player knew about this. I didnt. Also, theres a high chance he is also watching this video rn
Yeah I saw this few weeks ago in a reddit post where someone got eco hegemon in like 1520 with Venice using this. It was wild. Copied that for a super fun run myself.
Now you should conquer Dalaskogen in Sweden and upgrade the copper mine to lvl 3 to see how high you can get that number. +9 goods produced from the monument would come out to well over 30 goods produced after the modifiers, and I bet you could get over 50 with a bit more effort lol
Oh damn, I realised how insanely strong Trade Protectorates are yesterday during my Aragon -> Latin Empire run, but combining it with Trading Cities is insanely broken
Great video as usual Herr Student, only downside i see is the tier 8 gov reform which comes quite late in the game. Tried it with Venice once to rush it, was quite long tho
As GB you can move capital to Greenland and make whole europe as you trade company\protectorates , with help of Anglican church bonusses ) Also if you take another reform after become republic (after civil war) other countries will get Trade Republic bonuses in the nodes,while you are not a trade republic UPD Protectorates can be forced to change religion. Enact Calvinist Theocracy (which one needs
That's incredibly funny, I assume they are going to get it fixed by making trading cities and formal trading cities have like -1000 acceptance of becoming protectorate
That just nuts. The only thing is when you are in the middle game money are not important anymore. So if it`s possible in 1500 then it will be totally broken. But still you can hire all the available mercs and be 30 provinces nation, which beat everyone :)))
You may not like it but this is what peak efficiency looks like *Roman Empire historical peak borders but every province outside of Roma is a protectorate*
They had a few wars with each other but they never Annexed any Province... I think that's because they are all Trading Cities Tier 1 Gov. Reform for which they need to only have 1 Province... so same as for Free Cities that also very rarely conquer land
Can you abuse the Byzantium client state Pronojajars (tier 2 reform) with this? Presumably you would have to create client state, raze province and enable transfer trade to increase liberty desire, then release with no "overlord abandoned us" opinion penalty, then accept as trade protectorate.
@@thestudentYT yeah but usually u keep the land and if I saw correctly only England is a subject. My broader question was if it was necessary to get those government reforms.
@@peterzeger7263 Yes of course I released and played as the East India Company earlier... you should really watch my video on that like 2 Weeks ago if you are interested in that
To click the event Proclaim Thalassocracy, what exactly should I have from nodes? For example in the Venice case it says Is the strongest trade power in the Gulf of Venice, Ragusa, Iskandariyya, Sea of Marmara, and Halab. Two of those are seas, and two provinces and Ragusa is both a provine and a node. Do I just need to be the strongest in these 5 nodes?
@@DecedentPP For some reason in the thalassocracy decision requirements pop-up, it depicts trade nodes not by the name of the node but the tile it sits on. Iirc, Ragusa is the name of the node and the tile.
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Ah yes, the paths to infinite goods produced.
Now that I found the Path to Infinite Mana AND Money I could probably say that I've beaten EU4 XD
Cake , i'm literally say about that to you some months ago...
@@zagsarraykland6291 yeah, found out about it personally a while back
the students living on the edge
Fun fact - this will also slowly give trade power in that node over to countries that are eligible to effect the bonus to goods produced in that node. If you’re Trade Companying that node, every single one of them will have close to +100% goods produced from other merchant republics and trade companies in the node. So, even the provinces you’re feeding away to do this will be producing plenty of trade value for you.
Yes, and then spend mana on provinces, incresing even more the DEV over time
If your going to go for highest income, you're going to want to find a way to throttle your income on demand; if you make more than 1.3 mill a month or something it inverts and makes you lose 1 mill a month actually leading to bankruptcy
Yeah I saw that on Zlewikks Aragon run... quite absurd but anyways xd
I guess the easiest way to do it would be to lead all your Money into an End Node where you are not collecting (such as Venice) and then change all the Trade to your Main Node again whenever you were ready to hit the highest Number possible...
But I never tested it so it is just an idea :)
ya know, just yesterday I was playing an MP-round with some friends and out of all the players, two were aiming to dominate trade: Great Britain(me) and Italy.
The Italy player knew about this.
I didnt.
Also, theres a high chance he is also watching this video rn
This as venice could be very strong! Getting all islands of the mediterranean to be your trade protectorate could be very ...balanced.
Hey i did this strategy of releasing trading cities as venice in north africa. and then offering protectorates! = 400% goods produced :D
Yes, I did few months ago, you can get economic hegemony before 1600
Yeah I saw this few weeks ago in a reddit post where someone got eco hegemon in like 1520 with Venice using this. It was wild. Copied that for a super fun run myself.
did you guys form GB?
Underrated channel
Now you should conquer Dalaskogen in Sweden and upgrade the copper mine to lvl 3 to see how high you can get that number. +9 goods produced from the monument would come out to well over 30 goods produced after the modifiers, and I bet you could get over 50 with a bit more effort lol
Yes probably
And start as Lubeck or form the hansa to turn it to gold
@@catfood1788that amount of gold would hurt you with inflation and could deplect. Copper is fine and can have a manufactory as well
@@michatarzan7595 counter point inflation is only a number
Clearly the British should have just turned the Raj into an HRE-Balkans mishmash, smh how could they have been so blind.
I mean, it was one for a long time. Just less so.
Gigachad Student helping us mere mortals break the game
It is just to much fun...
Oh damn, I realised how insanely strong Trade Protectorates are yesterday during my Aragon -> Latin Empire run, but combining it with Trading Cities is insanely broken
Great video as usual Herr Student, only downside i see is the tier 8 gov reform which comes quite late in the game. Tried it with Venice once to rush it, was quite long tho
It normally takes until 1520s as a Republic or 1550s as Monarchy
Your videos are always amusing!!! Thank you!
I don't have the patiance to go and try it myself but always nice to see broken strats!
Does that make Novgorod actually op too?
amazing! you are making really intersting eu4 content
As GB you can move capital to Greenland and make whole europe as you trade company\protectorates , with help of Anglican church bonusses )
Also if you take another reform after become republic (after civil war) other countries will get Trade Republic bonuses in the nodes,while you are not a trade republic
UPD
Protectorates can be forced to change religion.
Enact Calvinist Theocracy (which one needs
There is no such Theocracy
Paradox will surely nerf that feature maybe to limit the trade companies to 5 or 10 but even then its incredibly strong 😂
That's incredibly funny, I assume they are going to get it fixed by making trading cities and formal trading cities have like -1000 acceptance of becoming protectorate
The yemen mission tree liked this video after switching to eastern plutocracy
It's silly that they give global modifiers, giving extra trade power in the local node and bonuses fir the protectorate itself is enough
Emergency Patch in 3..,2.., 1..
That just nuts. The only thing is when you are in the middle game money are not important anymore. So if it`s possible in 1500 then it will be totally broken. But still you can hire all the available mercs and be 30 provinces nation, which beat everyone :)))
Thank you for such an interesting video. It was amazing!
You may not like it but this is what peak efficiency looks like
*Roman Empire historical peak borders but every province outside of Roma is a protectorate*
No one expected the patch that made maritime/naval from shit tier to god tier 😂
TheStudent has definitely won EU4
i would love to see that being used on venice for the fastest 1M income
hi,thanks for the videos.do you know if there is a limit of creating trading cities ,like the limit of client states?
Are they able to form alliances like trade city or do they act more like normal vassals?
They are fully independent and will even declare wars on each other sometimes but they never took any land in my game
How stable is this setup though? Don’t trade protectorates eat one another up, like Daimyos?
They had a few wars with each other but they never Annexed any Province... I think that's because they are all Trading Cities Tier 1 Gov. Reform for which they need to only have 1 Province... so same as for Free Cities that also very rarely conquer land
holy shit, nice one.
This will give me more chees potential.
The Student trying not to be a teacher challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
Jokes aside, great video as always!
Rofl 10x Ottoman income in late 1500's. Insane.
Now we have to try it with gotland>>hanseatic league>>denmark>>england it will be so good...
so thats why you went republic in your norse game! at what point do you get to tier 8 as a republic if you flip from monarchy?
No it wasn`t added when I did that run yet
Can you abuse the Byzantium client state Pronojajars (tier 2 reform) with this? Presumably you would have to create client state, raze province and enable transfer trade to increase liberty desire, then release with no "overlord abandoned us" opinion penalty, then accept as trade protectorate.
Maybe it is possible but I doubt it
Maybe it's time for a world conquest into spamming this everywhere to get max income?
That's what I suggested in the outro...
@@thestudentYT will be interesting to see then
not sure if related to the video, but what did you do in the british isles?
I formed Great Britain... XD
@@thestudentYT yeah but usually u keep the land and if I saw correctly only England is a subject.
My broader question was if it was necessary to get those government reforms.
@@peterzeger7263 Yes of course I released and played as the East India Company earlier... you should really watch my video on that like 2 Weeks ago if you are interested in that
@@thestudentYT will do
To click the event Proclaim Thalassocracy, what exactly should I have from nodes? For example in the Venice case it says Is the strongest trade power in the Gulf of Venice, Ragusa, Iskandariyya, Sea of Marmara, and Halab. Two of those are seas, and two provinces and Ragusa is both a provine and a node. Do I just need to be the strongest in these 5 nodes?
Pretty sure
It is just strange because only Ragusa is a trade node. The other ones are seas and provinces.
@@DecedentPP For some reason in the thalassocracy decision requirements pop-up, it depicts trade nodes not by the name of the node but the tile it sits on. Iirc, Ragusa is the name of the node and the tile.
I wanna play Maritime Sweden now lmao
Wasnt it available to venice already? Also theres a new way to add trade power to a province in each state i dont remember what ots called
No Venice can only get it as every other Nation as well: Through forming England or through taking Maritime or Naval Ideas
Would be fun to do this with Riga.
Can you use this strategy in order to create infinite HRE members?
Not Infinite because there is the European Continent Requirement... but otherwise yes
Although I don't really know what this would be good for..
Fast revoke strats have been patched IIRC, so you could use them to generate IA faster from the additional members.@@thestudentYT
Yes but keep in mind that you need Tier 8 Reform for that...
jeeez those are big numbers
extremely balanced
Gotta use this before it gets patched
sadly florryworry already did a interger overflow on income. so no WR
It is always time for more overflow
Turn everyone into coal with this simple trick!
Weren't Trade protectorates an old feature that got revived ?
As I literally said in the first Minute of the video... XD
Does anyone actually play to this point?
its not even 1600 ofc people play. 1700 and later is very rare tho
I am 1000000000000% sure Paradox will nerf this in the next patch
We'll see... It is just Game Mechanics and still no one uses it in the entire Time 1.35 is out
How do trade cities work?
You create them to become your Trade Protectorate XD
Time for marritime Naples lol
Can byzanthium get this??
Yes if you take Maritime ideas and take the decision "Confirm the Thalassocracy"
@@thestudentYT would you think its relevant middle to late game??
@@ordinacijamariomalnar197 Yes I think it will solve all of your Problems within a few years
Yeah this is neat except for the fact youre telling everyone my secrets
Gotland>Hansa>Denmark>England
Yeah this will get fixed soon for sure.
Don`t be so sure about that... those are just game Mechanics
Old. Protectorates existed in the game like a decade ago already, but were scrapped at some point in the development.
But they weren't available in Game for like 5 years so... they are new now
Damn boy you sound so deutsch