I did a two day ride over the weekend with the new, softer fork compression valving. The forks felt really good in all conditions. Definitely not too soft as I was running with the compression adjusters at 19out. Bottoming control is still very good and they feel stable even when pushed hard. Need to ride at some other locations too, but I'm pleased so far.
Dog wanted to help with the re-valve and to make sure everything was going right. Thanks for The clip! I needed to see this for future reference especially fluid changes. They sure are plusher than my old AER's in chop. I only have about 20 hrs on mine but so far so good. Oh and so glad to find a video on this! I can't go by a manual worth a darn. I'm a visual guy my wife says.
Yes, Max checks all the work I do ;-) Pleased you found the video interesting. The Dal Soggio Sphere cartridges are great aren't they. Love mine too...
For those tight on budget - no need for syringe tool for 15-30usd. Just get a syringe from pharmacy and get a shrader valve insert for car rim from your nearest tyre shop. Glue the syringe inside and fill the remaining gaps with rubberlike glue...
For stock forks I use WP SAE 4W oil. I order it through my KTM dealer in 5L containers. Yes, the Bell Ray oil is 5W and I only use it in my Del Saggio cartridge forks.
Hi mate Great vid! you really helped me a lot, which spanner do you you use to loosen the fork caps is it the DRC 50 you use to hold the rod? as my Motion Pro 50mm closed spanner wont fit.
For the Dal Soggio fork caps I use a DRC 50mm 8 sided wrench. It has a 3/8" hole in the handle so can be used with a torque wrench and can also be used to hold the rod too. Very handy. The part number is D59-24-002
great video, i have spheres and find them way to soft i am only 5 clicks out on the compression and 2 clicks out on the rebound. I want to disassemble the forks and measure all the shims to see how they compare to the OEM base chart. My issue is I am 1000km out in the desert and need to order all the special tools needed to pull the shim stacks down to measure and compare. Is there any chance you could share with me a list of all the special tools needed for the pull down and reassemble? that way i can order the tools/parts and ensure i have everything to complete the job. Being so remote nothing is worse than getting a job 90% done only to need a tool/part and then i have to wait 4weeks for it to arrive by mail plane. I use my bike for desert racing in Australia and am training hard for Finke 2024 in June, and i need to sort this lack of damping asap. Thanks again.
Hi mark carried this out n gound massive improvement im runing 5.0springs.due to my weight easy enough to do got the shimes from turatec £5 pin wrench of ebay £6 nitrogen needle £12. Saved a small fortune for a huge gain And 1.2bar. Wat efect would i get ading more air i e 1.5/1.7 bar. Wat does more/less air. Efect. Thks for u help carl s/wales uk
Can you do an update on the sphere for folks that are considering this upgrade? I really appreciate your videos and thoroughness. Specifically, would dropping in the dal soggio spheres keep the plush feel of the xplor at low speed but solve the other problems of bottoming or rigidity at mid to high speed. Thanks
I love the Sphere cartridges. They are plush yet resist bottoming off large jumps. At high speed through bumpy terrain they feel very controlled. They are a huge improvement over the stock Xplor cartridges. Highly recommended.
Pleased that you enjoyed watching the video. Excellent World-Pro? No. But, I have been off-road riding for 40 years, so I can tell the difference between a 2-stroke and 4-stroke ;-) If you ride in roots and rocks it's very easy to notice suspension setup differences. I ride off-road nearly every weekend, year round. I like to have my bike setup just how I want it, so I focus on the riding rather than thinking about the bike. BTW- The shims cost me about $6 and the oil was about $20. So it's cheap if you can do it yourself and have the tools.
Tokyo Offroad I'm the dame with my suspension similar ride background 40years off/ road riding since my mini Mx days as a kid, I bought my own bike first bike, MX too, no pee wee straight to the real stuff, earning my own money doing milk and paper rds, still loving 2 strokes but Inhave had both and trials as well, still do the odd low Enduro key events as well! People make the mistake of thinking pros only understand or feel suspension differences or benefits, in fact the gumby rider can benefit the most, ride safer, most important, ride faster and even bigger point is improve with proper bike setup! Yet the gumby will still go a buy a 450 or 300 as the first bike ever! Then add a pipe or some other engine mod, and run stock suspension and shitty tyres!
I don't even have a dirt bike but love watching these videos . I may be watching because I'm wanting a dirt bike and my mechanic back ground. What ever it is.... This is one of the best channels on TH-cam for dirt bike info , hands down ! The way I think is .... Always buy tools and fix your own car or bike, that way you learn, save money and know it was done right. Thank you for your time and expertise !
Just putting fresh oil in my bladder cartridge . I seen you measured a 122 mm oil height . Is that the standard oil level height . ? It only says 190ml of oil on the sheet of paper that came with the kit & no mention of oil height .
Boyle's law doesn't care what kind of gas it is. There is no difference between gasses, just like all liquids don't compress. air is 78% nitrogen, 20% oxygen and the rest is everything else with varying amounts of water vapor, which oil has also. Nitrogen is cheap and dry. Save yourself the hassle of buying an nitrogen tank and the refill cost and get a small high pressure pump. Formula 1 was the first to start splitting hairs on setup and the dry nitrogen in tires started there. Shocks, it makes no difference what the gas is. I repeat, all gasses expand the exact same amount with temperature change, thinking that they don't is a myth propagated like carrots make you see better or your shock is kicking because the rebound is to fast. Don't believe me, read up on Boyle's law and you will see in the equation that there is no factor for varying gases.
Iv found same problem I find can only get to ride well with comp all way out but feel if I could get a softer comp calving it would be bang on n using only 300ml oil as with more oil I have 3 inches of ram left with 360ml on min preload tbinkinkin of softer spring with 360 as apposed to my weight springs n 300 ml wats u thoughts please as seem I have same problem as u originally did
I really enjoy watching your how to videos. I don't even have these forks on my KTM but still find useful techniques and information in your work. Thanks 👍🏾
Hi, really nice video, I know it was really long ago, but still, I just bought my spheres kit. And they seems to feel okay for classic staff at least, but the hard enduro season is starting in case of weather, and I thinking of your softer stack, looks good in scheme at least. Do you still riding spheres ? Or what can you tell in general about forks tuning 4 years after spheres and trial riding expiriance ?
Such a high quality install video as always :) So you just used air instead of Nitrogen in the bladder? Is that ok? I know some people do that with the shock bladder as well.
About the motion pro needle with the schrader valve, did you buy a schrader valve that just bolt to the needle or you made some? I try find some online..
segev benguigui - I purchased a Schrader valve separately and cut a thread in the needle body so that the valve attaches to the needle. However, Race Tech sell a needle with a schrader valve already fitted: www.racetech.com/images/TSNN-01-WEB.jpg
How long did you leave it before you decided to change to softer valving . For me I like mine stiffer normally for more sand track riding but I spoke with Gianni from Dal Soggio and he has mentioned that the spheres take up to 20hrs before the fully “bed in” . I’m going to put some more hour in mine till I think about any softer valving or going back to the stock forks springs .
Fantsic video ! How do you rate the Dal Soggio now youve had them for a while ? I have nothing but trouble with WP forks as a result I have a complete set of Ohlins front forks and a set of KYB inserted into my old 4CS forks. Neither still what I would call perfect ....
I really like the Dal Soggio Sphere cartridges. They are confidence inspiring and work well in all conditions. Plush in slow section, yet offer great bottoming resistance and stability in faster and jump sections. Highly recommended...
Thank you so much! Sorry for the question, i’m 60kg and my preload adjust is at 9 notch, do you recomend to up maybe at 5 or 6 to decrease spring preload?
What was your opinion on the valving changes that CSR recommended? Is it noticeably softer and using more travel? I have a stock set and am in the same boat. They're pretty stiff out of the box.
DirtRacerX - I really like the forks with the modified valving. Plush enough for trail riding, but firm enough to still handle jumps and drop offs. Highly recommended.
Hi bud bought a husky 19 with del sogio sphere is it posable to adjust preload easily as I have no info or manual for them u help be a preciated want to increase my pring preload
Yes, preload adjustment is relatively easy. Have a look at my install video here and I show the spring preload adjustment system. This can be done with the forks on the bike- with the bike on a work stand, loosen the top triple clamp pinch bolts, undo both fork caps, pull the front wheel up (to push the cartridges out of the tubes) and hold in place with a tie down strap. You should be able to see the preload adjuster. You'll need to push down on the sleeve and then adjust the preload. Note that I haven't tried doing this with the forks assembled, but think it can be done OK... th-cam.com/video/huiSdw2rfcE/w-d-xo.html
Thks bud bike seems gd but sits a bit low I know its bit undersprung for me but doesn't bottom just seems to sit bit low in the stroke was all assembled by Ben Saunders race connections. I mite av to fit heavier springs but thought I'd try bit of preload. If u think will improve. As half decent rider. Feels gd in woods but bit soft on the woops n wen u ride throu a hollow. Any info be Gr8 as can't find much online cheers
carl selby - Yes, definitely worth checking the amount of preload currently set and increasing if not enough. However,I would advise against using a lot of preload. If you feel the forks are undersprung you’d be best installing heavier springs.
OK il try a small amount n go from there seem gd in the woods just seems to sit low fitted risers to put my weight bk a bit it's a tradeoff as don't want it to hardeither or wlll not be so gd in technical stuff wat is ideal measurements stati n race on. Forks as can't find any info does each 5 mm click make noticeable diferance
I gave up using speed bleeders years ago after I experienced a number of leaking failures. For me the convenience wasn't worth it. I never tried fitting speed bleeders to Spheres so am not sure which ones would fit best. I use the stock screws and a screwdriver to bleed them.
Awesome dude, love ya work, am trying to decide on wether to order the Sphere or not, it's 2k NZD but like you I'm almost anal about my suspension setup! And once I'm happy I like to set it and forget it other than servicing and I do regularly too, I still run a clean ran air filter on every ride, I have my rotation on constant go! Been doing that since I was a kid too, we lived hours away from nearest dealer, so the old man was like if you buy these things you fix them and you maintain them, we ain't driving 3 hrs one way to fix your bikes! Ah those were the days!
I've ordered a digital fork hand pump so will be able to test the bladder pressure and make adjustments easily. When it arrives I'll try measuring the bladder pressure immediately after riding. However, the fork feeling doesn't seem to change with riding, so I don't think it's a problem for me.
Oil height is certainly something that can easily be changed and tweaked to suit personal preference. I'm still using the same settings shown in this video and love how the fork feels. For mixed offroad riding I think these settings are a good place to start if you're a similar weight to me (about 80kg with no clothes, about 90kg with gear).
I'm the same weight as this probably around 85 ish with gear on when I'm at my peak fitness lol . I have the perfect setting for both fast sand ( firm settings ) and for more tech enduro rocky stuff and Forrest single etc . I've gone for the 365ml of oil on the 10 pre load setting , when I checked my pressures for the first time I was on 30psi on one leg and 17psi in the other . not sure how that happened but I spoke to shock treatment here in oz who do a bot of work with these spheres , and he recommended around 18 psi . I lose a few PSI checking and filling so I put 20psi in to get to 18 when I remove the fill valve / needle . the rebound I leave at 13 for all types and seems great . the comp a have on 21 for tech enduro and around 10 or 12 for fast sand riding to keep it form being swallowed in whoops an float over the top . I have a bladder conversion in the rear which works very well with them . I'm extremely happy with the set up .
Are you still happy with the Dal Soggio Sphere kit?? and softer compression settings? Asking because my '19 6 day 300 is arriving in a few weeks and was thinking of treating myself with Cone Valves, only i ride slower hard / extreme enduro. A friend recommended Dal Soggio and found my way to your pages. Great coverage BTW. Thinking the sphere kit may do me just as well. Thanks for any feedback
Yes, I love the Sphere Cartridges with the softer compression valving. They allow me to do any riding I like, from slow technical riding, through high speed whoops and maintain stability, excellent damping and bottoming control. I haven't tried cone forks so don't know how they compare.
I did a two day ride over the weekend with the new, softer fork compression valving. The forks felt really good in all conditions. Definitely not too soft as I was running with the compression adjusters at 19out. Bottoming control is still very good and they feel stable even when pushed hard. Need to ride at some other locations too, but I'm pleased so far.
Hello, just fitted a set of spheres and was wondering what rebound settings your using?
Dog wanted to help with the re-valve and to make sure everything was going right. Thanks for The clip! I needed to see this for future reference especially fluid changes. They sure are plusher than my old AER's in chop. I only have about 20 hrs on mine but so far so good. Oh and so glad to find a video on this! I can't go by a manual worth a darn. I'm a visual guy my wife says.
Yes, Max checks all the work I do ;-) Pleased you found the video interesting. The Dal Soggio Sphere cartridges are great aren't they. Love mine too...
If you change the comp setting, why not change the rebound setting too? ...and the CSR Recommendation, is this lineup from DS or from a Database?
For those tight on budget - no need for syringe tool for 15-30usd. Just get a syringe from pharmacy and get a shrader valve insert for car rim from your nearest tyre shop. Glue the syringe inside and fill the remaining gaps with rubberlike glue...
I see ur using different fork oil from before is the bell ray a different weight what’s the best weight and oil for my stock forks on my 2018 300?
For stock forks I use WP SAE 4W oil. I order it through my KTM dealer in 5L containers. Yes, the Bell Ray oil is 5W and I only use it in my Del Saggio cartridge forks.
Hi mate
Great vid! you really helped me a lot, which spanner do you you use to loosen the fork caps is it the DRC 50 you use to hold the rod? as my Motion Pro 50mm closed spanner wont fit.
For the Dal Soggio fork caps I use a DRC 50mm 8 sided wrench. It has a 3/8" hole in the handle so can be used with a torque wrench and can also be used to hold the rod too. Very handy. The part number is D59-24-002
great video, i have spheres and find them way to soft i am only 5 clicks out on the compression and 2 clicks out on the rebound. I want to disassemble the forks and measure all the shims to see how they compare to the OEM base chart. My issue is I am 1000km out in the desert and need to order all the special tools needed to pull the shim stacks down to measure and compare. Is there any chance you could share with me a list of all the special tools needed for the pull down and reassemble? that way i can order the tools/parts and ensure i have everything to complete the job. Being so remote nothing is worse than getting a job 90% done only to need a tool/part and then i have to wait 4weeks for it to arrive by mail plane. I use my bike for desert racing in Australia and am training hard for Finke 2024 in June, and i need to sort this lack of damping asap. Thanks again.
Hi mark carried this out n gound massive improvement im runing 5.0springs.due to my weight easy enough to do got the shimes from turatec £5 pin wrench of ebay £6 nitrogen needle £12. Saved a small fortune for a huge gain And 1.2bar. Wat efect would i get ading more air i e 1.5/1.7 bar. Wat does more/less air. Efect. Thks for u help carl s/wales uk
Can you do an update on the sphere for folks that are considering this upgrade? I really appreciate your videos and thoroughness. Specifically, would dropping in the dal soggio spheres keep the plush feel of the xplor at low speed but solve the other problems of bottoming or rigidity at mid to high speed. Thanks
I love the Sphere cartridges. They are plush yet resist bottoming off large jumps. At high speed through bumpy terrain they feel very controlled. They are a huge improvement over the stock Xplor cartridges. Highly recommended.
Wow! You must be an excellent world-pro master rider to feel if that makes any difference. Anyway fun to watch, thanks.
Pleased that you enjoyed watching the video.
Excellent World-Pro? No. But, I have been off-road riding for 40 years, so I can tell the difference between a 2-stroke and 4-stroke ;-)
If you ride in roots and rocks it's very easy to notice suspension setup differences. I ride off-road nearly every weekend, year round. I like to have my bike setup just how I want it, so I focus on the riding rather than thinking about the bike.
BTW- The shims cost me about $6 and the oil was about $20. So it's cheap if you can do it yourself and have the tools.
Tokyo Offroad I'm the dame with my suspension similar ride background 40years off/ road riding since my mini Mx days as a kid, I bought my own bike first bike, MX too, no pee wee straight to the real stuff, earning my own money doing milk and paper rds, still loving 2 strokes but Inhave had both and trials as well, still do the odd low Enduro key events as well!
People make the mistake of thinking pros only understand or feel suspension differences or benefits, in fact the gumby rider can benefit the most, ride safer, most important, ride faster and even bigger point is improve with proper bike setup! Yet the gumby will still go a buy a 450 or 300 as the first bike ever! Then add a pipe or some other engine mod, and run stock suspension and shitty tyres!
I don't even have a dirt bike but love watching these videos . I may be watching because I'm wanting a dirt bike and my mechanic back ground.
What ever it is.... This is one of the best channels on TH-cam for dirt bike info , hands down !
The way I think is .... Always buy tools and fix your own car or bike, that way you learn, save money and know it was done right.
Thank you for your time and expertise !
Just putting fresh oil in my bladder cartridge . I seen you measured a 122 mm oil height . Is that the standard oil level height . ? It only says 190ml of oil on the sheet of paper that came with the kit & no mention of oil height .
Boyle's law doesn't care what kind of gas it is. There is no difference between gasses, just like all liquids don't compress. air is 78% nitrogen, 20% oxygen and the rest is everything else with varying amounts of water vapor, which oil has also. Nitrogen is cheap and dry. Save yourself the hassle of buying an nitrogen tank and the refill cost and get a small high pressure pump. Formula 1 was the first to start splitting hairs on setup and the dry nitrogen in tires started there. Shocks, it makes no difference what the gas is. I repeat, all gasses expand the exact same amount with temperature change, thinking that they don't is a myth propagated like carrots make you see better or your shock is kicking because the rebound is to fast. Don't believe me, read up on Boyle's law and you will see in the equation that there is no factor for varying gases.
Iv found same problem I find can only get to ride well with comp all way out but feel if I could get a softer comp calving it would be bang on n using only 300ml oil as with more oil I have 3 inches of ram left with 360ml on min preload tbinkinkin of softer spring with 360 as apposed to my weight springs n 300 ml wats u thoughts please as seem I have same problem as u originally did
I really enjoy watching your how to videos. I don't even have these forks on my KTM but still find useful techniques and information in your work. Thanks 👍🏾
Did you refill the bladders with nitrogen or just use air? thanks
I use air
Old video but for oil change is it as easy as dumping fluid and adding more and not messing with bladder aspect of fork.
Yes, that's correct...
Unless you also want to change the cartridge oil as well...
Why won't you want to change both the oil in the fork and the cartridge?
Beautifully presented, as always!
Does it have nitrogen or air in the bladder? Best regards from Guadalajara Mexico 🔥
Most people use air for the fork bladder.
Hi tokyo, can I decrease the 1.2 bar pressure? My weight is 60kg
Thanks mate!
Hi, really nice video, I know it was really long ago, but still, I just bought my spheres kit. And they seems to feel okay for classic staff at least, but the hard enduro season is starting in case of weather, and I thinking of your softer stack, looks good in scheme at least.
Do you still riding spheres ?
Or what can you tell in general about forks tuning 4 years after spheres and trial riding expiriance ?
Yes, I still yes my Sphere cartridges and like them. Still using the same setup as shown in the video.
Hi. Before you go with the revalve process why you didn’t try (or you did) to get the compression clickers all way out?
Such a high quality install video as always :) So you just used air instead of Nitrogen in the bladder? Is that ok? I know some people do that with the shock bladder as well.
Yes, air in the fork bladders is fine. For shocks you definitely want to use nitrogen though...
@@TokyoOffroad air in your shock makes no difference unless it's real humid when you are pumping it up.
Just picking up a bike with Dal Soggio, I appreciate the tutorial.
Absolutly love your how to videos. I prefer them over the riding footage actually. But keep them both coming. 👍
Thanks for the video! Do you know if it should be fill with air or nitrogen? Cant find any info online. Thanks again
Most people use air as the fork does get hot (unlike the shock). I did ask this question to Dal Soggio and they recommended just to use air.
Thanks!!!
About the motion pro needle with the schrader valve, did you buy a schrader valve that just bolt to the needle or you made some? I try find some online..
segev benguigui - I purchased a Schrader valve separately and cut a thread in the needle body so that the valve attaches to the needle. However, Race Tech sell a needle with a schrader valve already fitted: www.racetech.com/images/TSNN-01-WEB.jpg
Thanks!!!
How long did you leave it before you decided to change to softer valving . For me I like mine stiffer normally for more sand track riding but I spoke with Gianni from Dal Soggio and he has mentioned that the spheres take up to 20hrs before the fully “bed in” . I’m going to put some more hour in mine till I think about any softer valving or going back to the stock forks springs .
Probably 5, or 6 day rides before I changed the valving. I love the valving as it is now. I certainly don’t find it soft.
Great video....are the shims 6mm?
Correct, the shims are all 6mm ID
Fantsic video ! How do you rate the Dal Soggio now youve had them for a while ? I have nothing but trouble with WP forks as a result I have a complete set of Ohlins front forks and a set of KYB inserted into my old 4CS forks. Neither still what I would call perfect ....
I really like the Dal Soggio Sphere cartridges. They are confidence inspiring and work well in all conditions. Plush in slow section, yet offer great bottoming resistance and stability in faster and jump sections. Highly recommended...
thanks mate
How many cc/ml do you fill in close cartridge? And in outer bar?
Thanks a lot, i’m doing this revalving.
Cheers
I put in 190ml of oil, bled the air out, then set the height at 122mm
Thank you so much! Sorry for the question, i’m 60kg and my preload adjust is at 9 notch, do you recomend to up maybe at 5 or 6 to decrease spring preload?
Brill video. Followed it msive imprivment ni so harsh mite play with air presure. What efcts does more or less air achieve
What was your opinion on the valving changes that CSR recommended? Is it noticeably softer and using more travel? I have a stock set and am in the same boat. They're pretty stiff out of the box.
DirtRacerX - I really like the forks with the modified valving. Plush enough for trail riding, but firm enough to still handle jumps and drop offs. Highly recommended.
Cheers, thanks! What is the ID of the shims in the base valve? Has to be 6mm or 8mm, I need to order some.
DirtRacerX - The compression stack shims have 6mm ID
Hey mate was just wondering what fork cap wrench you used pick up the drc 50mm wp one and it doesn’t fit
No, the WP version won’t fit. You need the DRC 50mm Fork cap wrench for Showa, part number D59-24-002
Thanks
thx for sharing:)
Hi bud bought a husky 19 with del sogio sphere is it posable to adjust preload easily as I have no info or manual for them u help be a preciated want to increase my pring preload
Yes, preload adjustment is relatively easy. Have a look at my install video here and I show the spring preload adjustment system. This can be done with the forks on the bike- with the bike on a work stand, loosen the top triple clamp pinch bolts, undo both fork caps, pull the front wheel up (to push the cartridges out of the tubes) and hold in place with a tie down strap. You should be able to see the preload adjuster. You'll need to push down on the sleeve and then adjust the preload. Note that I haven't tried doing this with the forks assembled, but think it can be done OK... th-cam.com/video/huiSdw2rfcE/w-d-xo.html
Thks bud bike seems gd but sits a bit low I know its bit undersprung for me but doesn't bottom just seems to sit bit low in the stroke was all assembled by Ben Saunders race connections. I mite av to fit heavier springs but thought I'd try bit of preload. If u think will improve. As half decent rider. Feels gd in woods but bit soft on the woops n wen u ride throu a hollow. Any info be Gr8 as can't find much online cheers
carl selby - Yes, definitely worth checking the amount of preload currently set and increasing if not enough. However,I would advise against using a lot of preload. If you feel the forks are undersprung you’d be best installing heavier springs.
OK il try a small amount n go from there seem gd in the woods just seems to sit low fitted risers to put my weight bk a bit it's a tradeoff as don't want it to hardeither or wlll not be so gd in technical stuff wat is ideal measurements stati n race on. Forks as can't find any info does each 5 mm click make noticeable diferance
Have you found a speed bleeder that works with the Spheres?
I gave up using speed bleeders years ago after I experienced a number of leaking failures. For me the convenience wasn't worth it. I never tried fitting speed bleeders to Spheres so am not sure which ones would fit best. I use the stock screws and a screwdriver to bleed them.
@@TokyoOffroad thanks for the reply. I love your videos. BTW, your oil drain tool works great. Much less mess!
So this forks have a bleeder screw, which of the 2. I put them on my TPI 300 and man they are great on rocks
Rafael Torrellas bleeder screw is the closet one to the outside of the fork cap .
@@westsurfmark thanks man I'll check
Just curious...what brand pin wrench are you using?
I purchased it in a local tool shop in Japan. The markings on the tool are "SG CHROME VANADIUM". It is unbranded
@@TokyoOffroad thank you
Hi. How much hours do you do between service the forks?
Personally, I do overhauls once a year. If I was racing I’d probably do it twice a year.
Thanks!
Awesome dude, love ya work, am trying to decide on wether to order the Sphere or not, it's 2k NZD but like you I'm almost anal about my suspension setup! And once I'm happy I like to set it and forget it other than servicing and I do regularly too, I still run a clean ran air filter on every ride, I have my rotation on constant go! Been doing that since I was a kid too, we lived hours away from nearest dealer, so the old man was like if you buy these things you fix them and you maintain them, we ain't driving 3 hrs one way to fix your bikes! Ah those were the days!
Nice work! Do you have the problem of arsing pressure that mentioned by someone on KTMtalk during previous 20 hrs?
I've ordered a digital fork hand pump so will be able to test the bladder pressure and make adjustments easily. When it arrives I'll try measuring the bladder pressure immediately after riding. However, the fork feeling doesn't seem to change with riding, so I don't think it's a problem for me.
Mark, do you feel ktm oem oul level is a tad high, ive read several articles that factory oil level is up to 5 cc higher?
Oil height is certainly something that can easily be changed and tweaked to suit personal preference. I'm still using the same settings shown in this video and love how the fork feels. For mixed offroad riding I think these settings are a good place to start if you're a similar weight to me (about 80kg with no clothes, about 90kg with gear).
I'm the same weight as this probably around 85 ish with gear on when I'm at my peak fitness lol . I have the perfect setting for both fast sand ( firm settings ) and for more tech enduro rocky stuff and Forrest single etc . I've gone for the 365ml of oil on the 10 pre load setting , when I checked my pressures for the first time I was on 30psi on one leg and 17psi in the other . not sure how that happened but I spoke to shock treatment here in oz who do a bot of work with these spheres , and he recommended around 18 psi . I lose a few PSI checking and filling so I put 20psi in to get to 18 when I remove the fill valve / needle . the rebound I leave at 13 for all types and seems great . the comp a have on 21 for tech enduro and around 10 or 12 for fast sand riding to keep it form being swallowed in whoops an float over the top . I have a bladder conversion in the rear which works very well with them . I'm extremely happy with the set up .
@@westsurfmark what spings did you use with the standard setup?
pieter dz i have .46 springs
I think the standard ktm 300 springs are .45
Are you still happy with the Dal Soggio Sphere kit?? and softer compression settings? Asking because my '19 6 day 300 is arriving in a few weeks and was thinking of treating myself with Cone Valves, only i ride slower hard / extreme enduro. A friend recommended Dal Soggio and found my way to your pages. Great coverage BTW. Thinking the sphere kit may do me just as well.
Thanks for any feedback
Yes, I love the Sphere Cartridges with the softer compression valving. They allow me to do any riding I like, from slow technical riding, through high speed whoops and maintain stability, excellent damping and bottoming control. I haven't tried cone forks so don't know how they compare.
Magic, thanks for the reply. the softer shim set come as a kit? or did you order them a separates?
Also if you would be so kind as to give me the DRC 8 sided tool part number please? they don't seem to have heard about it here in Aus!!
The 8 sided 50mm wrench part number is D59-24-002 www.drcproducts.com/tool/sus/d59-24/index.html
I ordered the shims from my local KTM dealer