Thanks for the video my Honda 130 would not start and I knew it was a fuel issue. Sure enough tapping the electrical relay did the trick and the motor started right up. You saved me a ton of time and money. Thanks Man!
On my 1999 Honda 130hp, I had a start problem, it was the main relay , so I bought a new, and change it. And that's was the end of my problem :) The new Honda main relay was 06380-ZW5-000 . Absolut no problems after I made the change.
@@YankeeinSC1 Thanks. I'm having some issues with our 2007 which I'm guessing is fuel related. Process of elimination underway and I'll circle back to let you know how it goes.
thx for sharing. i am learning about honda outboard. hope tog et one later. may i know the is the regular issues with honda outboard? is it ask durable as yamaha & economical in fuel?
This is the first and only large EFI outboard I have owned. The particular problems discussed in this video are typical of any engine nearing 1000 hours of operation. As far as a brand analysis, I think that might be a little more subjective and prone to identity, advertising and personal preference, rather than actual owner data. Consider a non-biased source like "Consumer Reports". Replacing the well worn mechanical pump late this fall and swapping the electric pump just prior to that cured all of this engines brief rough running. The marine environment and well as the fuel pathway in any outboard are harsh ones. Yes, I perceive that it was a common problem, however there was a recall issued on this motor's fuel delivery system by Honda. Since I'd always done my own preventative maintenance, I never had taken the motor to the original (nor any) dealership, therefore the recall work had never been done in the timeframe Honda allowed for corrective repairs to be made under warrantee.
Thx, i am thinking of getting a honda in my next boat. really need to do a full full research on the problem with different brands. as i live in asia. it is a full summer all year time, beside the monsoon. i heard from some commercial boat owner, commented about the honda: no major issues, vry good fuel consumption. has got any hardware failure after 5 yrs of using. the last outboard was a nightmare for me. hahaha. thx & have a happy, healthy profiting 2017.
Hey Yankee...have you ever had your Honda run perfectly to get to your fishing spot, sit for an hour or so in the HOT sun and then doesnt want to start? Mine has been doing that. I am wondering if something to do with vapor lock. Two trips ago it did this (sitting in hot sun for an hour after running perfectly) I got another boat to start pulling me in and 2 min into moving I tried it again and it cranked right up. This time (today) I ran it for 20-30 min up and down the river then anchored down for an hour or so and then wouldnt start again. Would turn and turn and turn. I vented the gas tank, pumped the gas bulb, still nothing, I started paddling out 15-20 min trying the motor again here and there and it finally started again and ran perfectly again. I think it has to do with the HOT fuel or something related. You ever had that issue?
@@Henray316 Thanks henray. Anyway you can share more info? No idea where to find it.. (pic would be awesome) part number? Can I test it ? Is this relay something that would happen only when the hot engine has been sitting for 30 min to hour and preventing start up? The engine will turn and turn fine, just wont catch.
Searching for answers. My Honda 40(3 years old). Acts like it runs out of gas at .5 to full throttle. If I pump the fuel line ball it keeps going. Low speed, no issues.
Do you still have this BF115? I have a 2004 BF115 and want to do some maintenance and love to have a few other owners who I can talk to. We are in lowcountry of SC.
Hi Paul yes I do. What sort of things are you thinking of? Plugs, oil, filter, inline fuel filters, grease and service the level of the lower unit. Change out the sacrificial zinc anode, make sure prop is balanced. Use good clean fuel and occasionally ad a fuel injector cleaner. Beyond that?
@@YankeeinSC1 Ah cool. I just replaced lower gear oil, motor oil and filter, but having issues with water. The tell-tale has lower flow than I think it should. The T fitting that feeds tell-tale is way too small (that 3rd port anyway). The T fitting has 3 different sizes on each end. Looks like 3/8 from water pump, 1/4 on 2nd out which runs behind something (no idea) and 3rd out 1/8 goes to tell-tale. I run in silty salt water mostly and always gets clogged and now wondering if water lines have build up since I can pull the T fitting off and the water is flowing strong before it hits the T. I even bought a new T fitting 1/4-1/4-1/4 and tried that and the tell-tale is flowing good then. That just worries me about changing the water pressure with different T fitting.
@@paulalfordphotography3099 I've had a similar problem from time to time, although fresh water only for me. I cary a length of welding fill wire on the boat and occasionally feed it into the fitting if there is not good output pressure. Dirt, silt, mud wasps have all clogged it in the past. A little internal agitation seems to open up flow.
@@YankeeinSC1 May I check with you for a new/related issue (since you have the same motor). I replaced the impeller in the water pump and not sure I got it in the correct direction (clockwise/counterCW). I followed a TH-cam video but that was a different HP (200). The water was peeing at the house, then when I took it to the landing, the overheat buzzer sounded not 50 ft from the landing as soon as I went to plane. I brought it home immediately. I am thinking it could either be (1) I have a major blockage somewhere or (2) I might have the impeller in wrong direction so its not pulling water up into engine. Thoughts? I cant seem to determine if my exact engine turns clockwise or counter... Thanks, Paul
@@paulalfordphotography3099 Sure Paul; Not knowing where you live, I would suspect insects if you live in the south, but a different problem if you live where it is cold much of the year... Yep insects. I have had spiders, earwigs and mud dauber wasps, build nests or lay eggs in the discharge lines, effectively blocking them & causing the motor to overheat. If you take the cowl off, find where the rubber cooling water line discharges through the lower unit. Those rubber lines usually plugs into or onto a cast discharge fitting, or sometimes a plastic one that is snapped into a through hole in the upper portion of the lower unit. You can keep unplugging the line further up... to where the cooling water exits the engine, by pulling it off of fittings and tees (with the motor running in the water) until you get to a point of water spewing out. Then you'll have identified the plugged cooling water line. Either clean the line out using a piece of stout wire like 1/16" stainless steel TIG welding filler rod, or just take the line to the auto parts store and buy some new replacement hose that is the same diameter as the OEM discharge plumbing lines and start over. The downside to this story (and the greater potential in colder climates) is that if you pull all the lines off all the way back to the engine, yet there still isn't any cooling discharge, you either have a blockage in the pick-up side of the cooling system, or the rubber pump impeller itself has deteriorated over the years. Cycles of being started out of the water will also destroy the impeller. A rubber/composite impeller heats up if the motor is started out of the water even for a few seconds. That causes the rubber to become brittle or the compost material to start to separate from the wheel. Next the little paddles on the cast rubber "sprocket looking" pump, start to shear off. Regardless of how the impeller failed, if that's the case it will need to be replaced. They only last for so long anyways and the parts are cheap to put in a fresh one that will insure you'll have plenty of cooling water flow, but its a little bigger job than just cleaning out the discharge lines. Don't let it scare you though...It's easy enough with some help from online tutorials or TH-cam!!!!! If you need to replace one, be sure to try to find all of the little broken rubber parts as they can travel downstream and cause this blockage problems we discussed. Good waterproof grease helps making the new install easy. Good Luck.
Thanks for the video my Honda 130 would not start and I knew it was a fuel issue. Sure enough tapping the electrical relay did the trick and the motor started right up. You saved me a ton of time and money. Thanks Man!
On my 1999 Honda 130hp, I had a start problem, it was the main relay , so I bought a new, and change it.
And that's was the end of my problem :)
The new Honda main relay was 06380-ZW5-000 .
Absolut no problems after I made the change.
Thanks for making this video. I’m trying to figure out what is happening with mine
Great video. Figured out my bad relay due to it. Thank you for taking the time
Thanks for this helpful information. What year is your Honda?
like 1998ish?
@@YankeeinSC1 Thanks. I'm having some issues with our 2007 which I'm guessing is fuel related. Process of elimination underway and I'll circle back to let you know how it goes.
thx for sharing.
i am learning about honda outboard.
hope tog et one later.
may i know the is the regular issues with honda outboard?
is it ask durable as yamaha & economical in fuel?
This is the first and only large EFI outboard I have owned. The particular problems discussed in this video are typical of any engine nearing 1000 hours of operation. As far as a brand analysis, I think that might be a little more subjective and prone to identity, advertising and personal preference, rather than actual owner data. Consider a non-biased source like "Consumer Reports".
Replacing the well worn mechanical pump late this fall and swapping the electric pump just prior to that cured all of this engines brief rough running. The marine environment and well as the fuel pathway in any outboard are harsh ones. Yes, I perceive that it was a common problem, however there was a recall issued on this motor's fuel delivery system by Honda. Since I'd always done my own preventative maintenance, I never had taken the motor to the original (nor any) dealership, therefore the recall work had never been done in the timeframe Honda allowed for corrective repairs to be made under warrantee.
Thx,
i am thinking of getting a honda in my next boat.
really need to do a full full research on the problem with different brands.
as i live in asia. it is a full summer all year time, beside the monsoon.
i heard from some commercial boat owner, commented about the honda: no major issues, vry good fuel consumption.
has got any hardware failure after 5 yrs of using.
the last outboard was a nightmare for me. hahaha.
thx & have a happy, healthy profiting 2017.
If your boat will see saltwater (mine never does) consider a saltwater series engine.
What size prop did you run on this motor? What years was the BF115A produced?
Hey Yankee...have you ever had your Honda run perfectly to get to your fishing spot, sit for an hour or so in the HOT sun and then doesnt want to start? Mine has been doing that. I am wondering if something to do with vapor lock. Two trips ago it did this (sitting in hot sun for an hour after running perfectly) I got another boat to start pulling me in and 2 min into moving I tried it again and it cranked right up. This time (today) I ran it for 20-30 min up and down the river then anchored down for an hour or so and then wouldnt start again. Would turn and turn and turn. I vented the gas tank, pumped the gas bulb, still nothing, I started paddling out 15-20 min trying the motor again here and there and it finally started again and ran perfectly again. I think it has to do with the HOT fuel or something related. You ever had that issue?
Main relay
@@Henray316 Thanks henray. Anyway you can share more info? No idea where to find it.. (pic would be awesome) part number? Can I test it ? Is this relay something that would happen only when the hot engine has been sitting for 30 min to hour and preventing start up? The engine will turn and turn fine, just wont catch.
My 115 Hp has no spark do I check the same way I check a Johnson Motor?
Where can I get a high pressure fuel pump? I’ve looked everywhere between local marinas and online.
Searching for answers. My Honda 40(3 years old). Acts like it runs out of gas at .5 to full throttle. If I pump the fuel line ball it keeps going. Low speed, no issues.
Dude, I am not a boat mechanic. >>>HOWEVER
Do you still have this BF115? I have a 2004 BF115 and want to do some maintenance and love to have a few other owners who I can talk to. We are in lowcountry of SC.
Hi Paul yes I do. What sort of things are you thinking of? Plugs, oil, filter, inline fuel filters, grease and service the level of the lower unit. Change out the sacrificial zinc anode, make sure prop is balanced. Use good clean fuel and occasionally ad a fuel injector cleaner. Beyond that?
@@YankeeinSC1 Ah cool. I just replaced lower gear oil, motor oil and filter, but having issues with water. The tell-tale has lower flow than I think it should. The T fitting that feeds tell-tale is way too small (that 3rd port anyway). The T fitting has 3 different sizes on each end. Looks like 3/8 from water pump, 1/4 on 2nd out which runs behind something (no idea) and 3rd out 1/8 goes to tell-tale. I run in silty salt water mostly and always gets clogged and now wondering if water lines have build up since I can pull the T fitting off and the water is flowing strong before it hits the T. I even bought a new T fitting 1/4-1/4-1/4 and tried that and the tell-tale is flowing good then. That just worries me about changing the water pressure with different T fitting.
@@paulalfordphotography3099 I've had a similar problem from time to time, although fresh water only for me. I cary a length of welding fill wire on the boat and occasionally feed it into the fitting if there is not good output pressure. Dirt, silt, mud wasps have all clogged it in the past. A little internal agitation seems to open up flow.
@@YankeeinSC1 May I check with you for a new/related issue (since you have the same motor). I replaced the impeller in the water pump and not sure I got it in the correct direction (clockwise/counterCW). I followed a TH-cam video but that was a different HP (200). The water was peeing at the house, then when I took it to the landing, the overheat buzzer sounded not 50 ft from the landing as soon as I went to plane. I brought it home immediately. I am thinking it could either be (1) I have a major blockage somewhere or (2) I might have the impeller in wrong direction so its not pulling water up into engine. Thoughts? I cant seem to determine if my exact engine turns clockwise or counter... Thanks, Paul
@@paulalfordphotography3099 Sure Paul; Not knowing where you live, I would suspect insects if you live in the south, but a different problem if you live where it is cold much of the year... Yep insects. I have had spiders, earwigs and mud dauber wasps, build nests or lay eggs in the discharge lines, effectively blocking them & causing the motor to overheat. If you take the cowl off, find where the rubber cooling water line discharges through the lower unit. Those rubber lines usually plugs into or onto a cast discharge fitting, or sometimes a plastic one that is snapped into a through hole in the upper portion of the lower unit. You can keep unplugging the line further up... to where the cooling water exits the engine, by pulling it off of fittings and tees (with the motor running in the water) until you get to a point of water spewing out. Then you'll have identified the plugged cooling water line. Either clean the line out using a piece of stout wire like 1/16" stainless steel TIG welding filler rod, or just take the line to the auto parts store and buy some new replacement hose that is the same diameter as the OEM discharge plumbing lines and start over. The downside to this story (and the greater potential in colder climates) is that if you pull all the lines off all the way back to the engine, yet there still isn't any cooling discharge, you either have a blockage in the pick-up side of the cooling system, or the rubber pump impeller itself has deteriorated over the years. Cycles of being started out of the water will also destroy the impeller. A rubber/composite impeller heats up if the motor is started out of the water even for a few seconds. That causes the rubber to become brittle or the compost material to start to separate from the wheel. Next the little paddles on the cast rubber "sprocket looking" pump, start to shear off. Regardless of how the impeller failed, if that's the case it will need to be replaced. They only last for so long anyways and the parts are cheap to put in a fresh one that will insure you'll have plenty of cooling water flow, but its a little bigger job than just cleaning out the discharge lines. Don't let it scare you though...It's easy enough with some help from online tutorials or TH-cam!!!!! If you need to replace one, be sure to try to find all of the little broken rubber parts as they can travel downstream and cause this blockage problems we discussed. Good waterproof grease helps making the new install easy. Good Luck.
Isn’t this basically a car engine? If so, can I put it in a small kit car?
yep. Honda accord ai think...
Chek gas filter , my be water inside ...
Bring back the carbarater.......
yea cool