From "Saga of a Star World". While supposedly signing an armistice with the Colonial Fleet at Cimtar, the Cylons launch the Final Annihilation of the Twelve Colonies of Man.
Good heavens. This was SO much darker and disillusioning than 8 year-old me remembers... those devastated looks on the faces of the Galactica CIC crew as they're watching their home worlds go up in flames.
- "That voice...I KNOW THAT VOICE!!!" - "You do?" - "Yes...its the voice of the Cylon Imperious Leader!" - "Well...the Imperious Leader was created over a thousand Yahren ago. If what you say is true, I must be over a thousand Yahren old!"
Yep, only *literally* about him playing the devil itself; as "Count Iblis" is the former dictator of the world of the "angels" as we'd refer to it in common terms, a being who was overthrown by an uprising when it tried to set up a state religion with the head of the state as "god".
“The final annihilation of the life form known as man. Let the attack begin!” [Cylons turn to leave] “Hey, before you guys go….can you two help me down from this thing? I’ve been stuck up here all day! Guys?”
Yeah, especially when Baltar is in command. Since a Cylon basestar is built for robots, would they even have a bathroom and a kitchen for him? What does he even accomplish sitting high up there all the time in the dark?
@@Tommykey07 that would explain why he always looks so angry when the cylons enter. Took him all morning (with his bad knees and everything) to climb up on there for his morning briefing only to have to have climb down then jog to the ONE bathroom on the entire basestar only to have then sprint BACK and climb again to make it in time for his noon meeting with Lucifer. He's tired, bitter, and backed up! So this is his one opportunity a day to be pithy and condesending at te Cylons under his command
@@josephhinkofer5995 and that is the real reason he never appeared in the reboot. "Lord Baltar. Our Imperious Leader reactivated you commission. Return to your basestar for deployment immediately. " "OH $^%# you you #%%$ toasters. The year I was with you guys I got low pay, gout, no toilet paper, no women, and no #%$# booze. #%% that. I rejoining the Klingons. Those guys know how to treat a vet like me!"
I remember watching this when it first aired, and the one problem I always had was how come there weren’t any planetary defense systems in place? Not even a single squadron of Vipers on that whole fracking planet?? That’s some feldercarp!!
Attacks on the Colonies were actually quite common. Colonial Fleet was extremely depleted at the end of the war. Plus one of Baltar's agents Karibdis disabled Caprica's Planetary Defenses. Colonial Fleet quite literally sent ALL of their Battlestars to meet the Cylon delegation at Cimtar. Any defense vessels or ground forces left to protect the Colonies would have been swatted like flies in the face of such an overwhelming attack. The Colonials seem to be a bit timid (Incredible considering that they've been at war for a thousand years) so it's likely that a Resistance against the Cylons wouldn't ever take place or would be fruitless. Adama knew this and instead sought out Earth.
@@richardched6085 I'd say "fled" is the wrong word, as it has the connotation of abandoning out of fear. Galactica was the only Battlestar left by then capable of going to try and help the colonies. Staying put would have been futile. Had the Galactica not gone to the colonies, there would have been thousands fewer survivors and no one organizing them into a refugee fleet with a direction and goal. The Council of Twelve, those not already killed by the Cylons, were completely incompetent to step up and lead.
the old ship is in the new version. its in one of the end ones. the original cylons, that look like the ones from the 70's had an original looking ship. Those ships, and the older model of cylon did still exist. they just upgraded stuff.
@@jime6688 Yes but I think the Battlestars were even cooler looking. One thing this had in common with Star Wars. The "good" army had cooler looking technology. The X wings in Star Wars were cooler looking than the Tie fighters and in Battlestar the Vipers were cooler looking than the Raiders and the Battlestars were cooler looking than the Base ships.
What will be lost on most, is how jaw-dropping these special Fx were for television in 1978. There would be no big-budget specialty channels or streaming services for several decades. Star Trek cost $150,000 to 200,000 an episode. The BSG pilot (albeit 10 years later) was $7 - 9 million. It was even released theatrically (in Sensurround no less) to recoup costs. This was cinema quality on television !! And that was a first. Now we have The Expanse and The Michael Bernham Discovery Hour, but in 1978 television Sci-Fi looked decidedly television.
@@omicron6513 Only bothers me that they call it "Star Trek" Discovery. Seems like a helluvalot of nerve to show zero-respect to a beloved franchise and still keep it's name.
Though I wasn't born, for 1978 they did a cracking job matching up the very manual visual effects with practical effects, I cant imagine the care it took to marry up a laser blast with that section of wall blowing out before CGI, and the matt paintings on the backdrop, all done with a lot of love and talent.
The cinematic style was so much better back then. The visual pacing was slower and more dramatic. The slow ominous Cylon lentimof coupled with the lingering shot of the base star. Epic!
900 Raiders attempting to destroy, building by building, thousands and thousands of cities, towns, and villages on 12 planets. They should be done in 25 years.
The visual effects were amazingly well done considering that BATTLESTAR GALACTICA was a television production, and it premiered in September, 1978, just a few months before I went on active duty in the Air Force. If memory serves me correct, the first episode (this one) snared an Emmy Award in the Visual Effects category. They were accomplished by producer John Dykstra.
That was the downfall - they spent wall too much money on the effects which ended up killing the show. It was cancelled mainly for the fact they could not continue to pay for it all.
The effects team on Star Wars did the model effects for Battlestar. Look how much more advanced the motion control rigs for the spaceships were, especially the banking and rolling, compared to A New Hope only one year earlier!
@@jogordon1530 And yet if they had cheapened out on the effects after a blockbuster like Star Wars, Battlestar would have tanked anyway. It was a no win situation.
I was 8 when I saw this. Before VCRs, before DVD, before the Internet. Only now studying the scene do I see the Caprican cities had pyramid-shaped skyscrapers. Those under age 40 really cannot imagine what it was like. This was movie-quality sfx in 1978 yet there it was on our little TV sets. Watching Humanity being wiped out on the eve of peace was some heavy isht for a child to see. That was a time when virtually every parent rushed their kids away if the TV show said "parental guidance suggested". A totally different United States than the one that exists today.
It really upset me to see mankind wiped out like that. It's a great way to establish a villain. I hated Baltar so much. The greatest traitor in human history. Anyway, it was such a fun show. I loved every minute of it. Of course the latest version was surprisingly even better.
On 9/11 I was Active Duty Air Force and my Gen X nerd ass was thinking of this scene as I looked up in the sky seeing GWB’s escort Vipers fly over our base. I enlisted late so my cohorts were all millennials who would not know anything about Battlestar Galactica until the reboot came-out in 2003. Yes it was probably unnecessary to imagine there would be enemy fighters violating US airspace, but orders were, “Be ready for anything,” so naturally one’s imagination would get involved.
Excellent. According to an Encyclopedia of BSG released in the late 70s or early 80s indicated that the Twelve Colonies had a population of 70 Billion... Those Basestars definitely glassed the twelve worlds. Metron Bombs, Energy Pulsars, Turbolasers. The Raiders simply strafed the cities. It was all very controlled destruction. As some areas around the destroyed Caprica City still had grass lol. The Adama estate however was obliterated and smoldering with the implication that Adama's wife Ila was vaporized. On other colonies entire swaths of the planet surface is just straight up 🔥🔥🔥
@@richardched6085 It didn't help that The Cylons took them completely by surprise! After all, this was SUPPOSED to be the end of the war... And in a way, it WAS... Just NOT the end Humanity wanted it to be!
@@darthplagueis4626 “In many of the more casual civilizations on the far eastern edge of the galaxy, the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy has long since replaced the great Encyclopaedia Galactica as the standard reference work for all knowledge and wisdom. Because although it has many gaps and contains many things that are very doubtful or at least insanely inaccurate, it is superior to the older, much more lengthy work in two ways. Firstly, it's a bit cheaper and, secondly, the words DON'T PANIC are written in large, friendly letters on the envelope. "
@@patricklyons794 The original show had a small theatrical run outside the USA prior to being show on TV. In the USA, at least part of the TV show aired before the theatrical release.
"By your command, all Basestars are in range to attack, but are receiving interference from an ancient Sanskrit Gayatri mantra reconfigured into a rocking song!"
Well, they WERE convinced that their plan was utterly FLAWLESS so why take peace seriously when the war is going to end in YOUR favor? At least, that's what I think The Imperious leader was asking when Baltar made him an offer...
@@karlsmith2570 Funny that I could never see the color difference in the cylons when I was a kid. We had a Black & White TV back then and it was difficult to see the difference between gold and silver! Yeah, I know--kids today going "What's a black and white TV?"
I always loved the designs of the Cylon fighters and Base Ships....the model work gave them an impressive sense of scale that I didn't get from the ones in the reboot.
Centurion: Oh mighty Imperious Leader, your fro hairdo is dynamite! What you put in it? Afro-Sheen? Imperious Leader: Your attempts at flattery are as awkward as your artificial voice. Dispense with the pleasantries and give your report.
I've seen probably three different cuts of this scene, but while the attack is far less efficient and as such a bit less logical than the one in the Reboot, it actually hits home harder. Killing the guy, the dog, you see regular civilians just sitting there all happy only to be openly massacred, it ends up working better.
Sorry, I can't agree with that. For one thing, everything about this makes it look like Caprica had a population of about 30 people. You see the same thing on most science fiction TV shows -- they just cannot handle the scale needed. As for the Cylon weapons, here they seem to be maybe the equivalent of a 500 lb bomb. To nuke a planet, you need actual nukes -- big ones, and plenty of them. Or something bigger, of course, but not something smaller. Otherwise it is massively impractical. I am old enough to remember this when it first came out, so I am old enough to remember the Cold War, when everyone thought a nuclear holocaust was inevitable and took it very seriously. Today it remains possible and even increasingly likely, in no small part because it is not taken seriously by so many of the people in key positions.
@@christosvoskresye The part about it not being as efficient as the one in the reboot where they did use Nukes was something I stated up front. But it never looks like there are only 30 people. Besides, its not always about home many people you show but how you show them.
@@jhmcd2 Let me put it this way: the original showed a dog killed, the reboot showed a BABY being murdered in cold blood. There is no way the original hit harder. I'll grant you that how death is dealt with makes a huge difference -- after all, no one really cries for all the people killed in a Godzilla movie. But again, the original was worse in this respect. In the original, the colonials got over the near-extinction of the human species more quickly and completely than many fans get over FOOTBALL GAMES. The shock, the horror, the grief, the PTSD, these were all delt with MUCH better in the reboot.
Doctor Quinn medicine woman was like: Where the heck is Sully when you need him, gosh darn it! A tomahawk would surely take care of those shiny good-for-nothing rascals"
It was one of the gorgeous tv series. It is long years after today what happens in the series . They have high technologies, colonies, space crafts, wireless connections inter-crafts and so on ... but the microphone of the woman presenting the news on the live broadcast is still wired. :)
And thus did a human civilization that had grown great over seven millennia fall in a single night - due to the stupidity of politicians who laughingly called themselves “the greatest leaders ever assembled”.
@The Mystery Man I don't think Adama controlled the entire fleet-just his personal Battlestar (he was closer to a captain than an admiral) If he told the other Battlestar commanders to ignore their president, they'd probably have him up for treason
@The Mystery Man I stand corrected. Still, I don't think usurping authority would have been received well if he tried to order the other Battlestar captains to disobey their president
Part of my saturday night as a kid.. Star Trek, Buck Rogers in the 25th century, UFO and of course Battlestar Gallactica! What a childhood! And whew, hated the reboots..Cylons looking like humans.. i understand logically but just looked like a way to save money on special effects/costumes. These are much more foreboding.
Woooohooo! I have the ORIGINAL Colonial Viper AND the Cylon Raider from '78 hanging above me right now in my home studio. Jeeze... I just realized that they're both 45 years old!
If you read the comic book series "the death of Apollo" you will find out a critical detail on why, exactly, Count Iblis had launched that attack- it wanted to draw the resistance from its own dimension into direct combat so it could wipe them out as a brief summary.
We must remain stealthy in the universe because even if there's a 1% chance our first contact with alien life is aggressive it's best we find their home planet first.... otherwise this video can be a scene our grandchildren may encounter.
Every time I see Jane Seymour reporting in this scene, there is a cadence and her describing the scene that makes me think... As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.
The greatly enhanced reflection and specular highlight on the Cylons in the original show really helped sell them as artificial constructs rather than people in suits.
Just noticed something I missed before. In the opening scene, the two Centurions walk into the leader's throne room. These are robots. Machines manufactured in a (probably) standardized factory. One of them is taller than the other, and the shorter robot is looking down at the floor as he walks, while the other one is looking straight ahead. I mean...I get it. 1970s TV budget. But at least you could have selected people to fill the suits who were all the same height? And redo the shot with the one guy putting in a little more effort? Love the show, but they sure did cut some corners.
It's amazing that this series came out as well as it did as it was plagued with problems from the get go. Different sized Cylons were the least of their problems :)
no they were alive if you read the books the leaders are surgically given a 3rd brain that gives them the power to lead, the movies/tv show cut a lot of the story from the books which i would read if i was you. think of them as something like the borg but with less machine parts
@@TheSLUser was Galactica based on a book, or was the book based on the series. If the latter is true, then it's a case of the books trying to fill in the blanks or errors not addressed in the series.
Alien Acting school didn't exist until Galaxy Quest. This scene is a shining example of why this school is so important and why it should have happened much sooner than it did.
The Cylon practical suits were so much better and more menacing than the CG versions on the Battlestar reboot. The costumes would probably have been cheaper to make than animating less than convincing, low rez 3D renders.
I actually found the original Cylons more threatening and mysterious. The reboot Cylons were kind of a retread of the basic "machines turning against humans" plotline.
I thought the reboot was fantastic except for the CGI centurians, which were a bit underwhelming. That and the fact that all the Final Five were, rather conveniently, either already on Galactica or, somewhat miraculously, managed to survive the Cylon assualt and make their way to Galactica.
I was 8 years old when this premiered on Televisión. The Cylons were way better than Stormtroopers. I still have the first three issues from the original Marvel comic book series.
The reboot nuking the colonies was far more "oh crap, we are on the very very edge of going down FOREVER." But for it's era, 1978, this was UNHEARD of. Nothing on the small screen had even a whisper of this. Nothing at all. And the music. I will always love the 1970's BSG intro music.
I do love how quite a few things from TOS made their way into the reboot and were used to represent the First Cylon War. And the original BGS theme is apparently the Colonial Anthem in the reboot.
I never noticed this before but... When Jane Seymor's character is talking, I can actually SEE her breath like it's FREEZING outside! Just how clod was it on set that night?
I wish they had let Jane Seymour speak with her normal British accent. She was trying to sound American, but the result was that her speech pattern seemed a bit awkward. I'm glad that after this episode they let her ease into her normal accent.
If only they had made this much effort during the rest of the series, instead of recycling the same Cylon clips endlessly they might not have lost so much audience.
The original plan was to make a series of telemovies. Making these was quite expensive and additional, once the show was approved, the required rate of production interfered with the slower visual effects process. Quite understandably, the two-parters had the best production values. The recycling also extended to the music as several episodes were scored entirely with tracked cues from previous episodes.
@@darthplagueis4626 @Darth Plagueis Recycled music is not so bad. The same musical theme whenever a base star is shown is fine with me, like the beginning of this clip. However, every space battle with the Cyclons was a rehash of the same clips, same attack runs over the Galacatica (sometimes several times), the same damage/fires to the Galactica, same bridge damage, and the same fire control on the bridge. What really irked me was the clip used in Fire in Space (and other places) is from another movie and has a burning railroad tank car in the carnage.
I understand what you are saying, but you have to realise how much time it takes to make space battle scenes back then with models. The fact that they didn't expect to have to make a series means that they had NO time. For instance Return of the Jedi's space scenes took almost a full year of full-time work to make. You also have to factor in budget. It's a little known fact that Glen A Larson was robbing Peter to pay Paul to make these (His other successful show at the time was the Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew show. It went under budget, and he used some of that to pad the budget for this show. That is why a LOT of the stars of this show guest starred on the Hardy Boys show like Adama, Baltar, Imperious Leader/Iblis and others) Trust me, this was a different time as far as money and even ratings (with only 3 major channels in the US (2 in Canada) the ratings meant EVRYTHING.
The ratings were still very good at the end of the season, The show was cancelled because of the production cost. It was simply more economic to spend a fraction on a show that got almost as good of ratings
@@martinbatistelli some people dont realize how *INCREDIBLY* expensive special effects are. SFX clips were like gold dust during the 70s and 80s. The entire special effects budget for the whole Battlestar Galactica series would not even cover ONE LASER BEAM in Star Wars.
@@flashkellam7395 I remember a dialog like that in a parody of the show between two Cylons about why they kept on getting defeated in an issue of MAD magazine.
On old TV sets back in the day, you couldn't tell that the tiled floor of the Presidium was 4x8 sheets of plywood arranged to make a checkerboard pattern.
Just noticing the Cylon leader manually turning the seat with his legs. If being Cylon leader doesn't earn you a motorised seat then I don't want the job.
Developing his cardio was always important to the imperious leader. He preferred the manually operated chair so that he could stay in excellent physical condition!
Galctica was for me as a Kid much more impressive than Star-Wars... I liked the effect's much more and the story was better. I dont need a Jedi... i want Adama, Starbug and the others :-) Sorry for my bad english ;-)
Apparently the Cylons didn't have weapons of mass destruction back in the 1970's. Why else would they have attacked the colonial planets with fighter jets designed for space and air combat? Curiously, after decades of war with the Cylons, the colonies apparently had no defensive weapons at their disposal. Apparently there were Cylons with different body sizes. Hopefully the seats in the Raiders were also adjustable so the Centurions could sit comfortably... lol
ABC made the biggest mistake in that network's history. BSG could have been a franchise that earned millions of dollars and loyal fans for generations. Instead of giving Galactica a second season, the network cancels the series after the first season and then insult fans by offering Galactica 1980; a show network executives knew viewers of the show would never accept.
What I thought they should have done instead of the 1980 concept was use the props they still had from Buck Rogers (also a Glen A Larson show) and have Galactica find earth in Buck's 25th century. That could neatly tie things up easier and be more exciting
1 Thessalonians 5:3 When they say, “Peace and security,” then sudden destruction comes on them, like labor pains come on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
Good heavens. This was SO much darker and disillusioning than 8 year-old me remembers... those devastated looks on the faces of the Galactica CIC crew as they're watching their home worlds go up in flames.
This was one of my favorite shows as a kid. Those shiny cyclons were awesome
Metal polish was always in short supply in the Cylon barracks. 😁
The sound the doors made when they slid open always got to me.
Yeah, I loved the Cylon troops with their vocoded voices. Some had much deeper ones so that could have been an indicator of rank?
The fact that they had swords, they never really used them on the show, but they sure did in the comics.
They are still my all time favourite space baddies, and not the newer model ones, the 1978 classics!
I love hearing Patrick MacNee's voice as the Cylon leader, and later as the Devil-in-disguise Count Iblis.
Don't forget Johnathan Harris (Lost in Space) as the voice of "Lucifer"
- "That voice...I KNOW THAT VOICE!!!"
- "You do?"
- "Yes...its the voice of the Cylon Imperious Leader!"
- "Well...the Imperious Leader was created over a thousand Yahren ago. If what you say is true, I must be over a thousand Yahren old!"
Yep, only *literally* about him playing the devil itself; as "Count Iblis" is the former dictator of the world of the "angels" as we'd refer to it in common terms, a being who was overthrown by an uprising when it tried to set up a state religion with the head of the state as "god".
@@chissstardestroyer Where does this information come from? It wasn't in the episode. Is this from fanfic?
@@kurtbarlow9402 He played a "bubble-headed, bulbous ninnie ".
“The final annihilation of the life form known as man. Let the attack begin!”
[Cylons turn to leave]
“Hey, before you guys go….can you two help me down from this thing? I’ve been stuck up here all day! Guys?”
Yeah, especially when Baltar is in command. Since a Cylon basestar is built for robots, would they even have a bathroom and a kitchen for him? What does he even accomplish sitting high up there all the time in the dark?
@@Tommykey07 that would explain why he always looks so angry when the cylons enter. Took him all morning (with his bad knees and everything) to climb up on there for his morning briefing only to have to have climb down then jog to the ONE bathroom on the entire basestar only to have then sprint BACK and climb again to make it in time for his noon meeting with Lucifer. He's tired, bitter, and backed up! So this is his one opportunity a day to be pithy and condesending at te Cylons under his command
@@jamesneese7663 And don't forget about Toilet Paper! LOL! Don't know what he had done about that now! LOL!
@@josephhinkofer5995 and that is the real reason he never appeared in the reboot. "Lord Baltar. Our Imperious Leader reactivated you commission. Return to your basestar for deployment immediately. "
"OH $^%# you you #%%$ toasters. The year I was with you guys I got low pay, gout, no toilet paper, no women, and no #%$# booze. #%% that. I rejoining the Klingons. Those guys know how to treat a vet like me!"
@@josephhinkofer5995 He used the three sea shells.
I remember watching this when it first aired, and the one problem I always had was how come there weren’t any planetary defense systems in place? Not even a single squadron of Vipers on that whole fracking planet?? That’s some feldercarp!!
Agreed. No ODPs, no fleet nearby.
Attacks on the Colonies were actually quite common. Colonial Fleet was extremely depleted at the end of the war. Plus one of Baltar's agents Karibdis disabled Caprica's Planetary Defenses. Colonial Fleet quite literally sent ALL of their Battlestars to meet the Cylon delegation at Cimtar. Any defense vessels or ground forces left to protect the Colonies would have been swatted like flies in the face of such an overwhelming attack. The Colonials seem to be a bit timid (Incredible considering that they've been at war for a thousand years) so it's likely that a Resistance against the Cylons wouldn't ever take place or would be fruitless. Adama knew this and instead sought out Earth.
Unfortunately, only Galactica had plot armor at that point.
@@The_Curious_Cat It also fled the massacre while the other Battlestars were overwhelmed.
@@richardched6085 I'd say "fled" is the wrong word, as it has the connotation of abandoning out of fear. Galactica was the only Battlestar left by then capable of going to try and help the colonies. Staying put would have been futile. Had the Galactica not gone to the colonies, there would have been thousands fewer survivors and no one organizing them into a refugee fleet with a direction and goal. The Council of Twelve, those not already killed by the Cylons, were completely incompetent to step up and lead.
Great memories of playing with my Colonial Viper and Cylon Raider toys when I was about 10 or 11.
Classic Battlestar Galactica was great. Lasted a season but it was an instant classic.
Ahead of its time.
Then we got that reboot with PS3 (at least for the first three seasons) Centurions and surprisingly inept baseships that only ever pack missiles.
There was a theatrical release in the same year...
@@UnendedGalaxygotta disagree
it's way better
but i do enjoy the original
"Ladies and gentlemen, this is terrible, they're bombing the city!"
I lost it.
She's not exactly Edward R Murrow here- seconds after announcing that the city is under attack, she forgets her job and starts screaming for her kid.
@@johnjameleSerena was like, "The hell with this! Where's my son?!"
I always was a fan of the design of the Cylon ships, much more so than the rebooted versions.
the old ship is in the new version. its in one of the end ones. the original cylons, that look like the ones from the 70's had an original looking ship. Those ships, and the older model of cylon did still exist. they just upgraded stuff.
How would the cylons fair if the colonies were welcomed into the UFP and Starfleet starships were there for security?
Brilliantly simple yet effective design for the Basestars. Just stack one flying saucer on top of another. It looks amazing.
@ you mean turned on the SIDE.
@@jime6688 Yes but I think the Battlestars were even cooler looking. One thing this had in common with Star Wars. The "good" army had cooler looking technology. The X wings in Star Wars were cooler looking than the Tie fighters and in Battlestar the Vipers were cooler looking than the Raiders and the Battlestars were cooler looking than the Base ships.
What will be lost on most, is how jaw-dropping these special Fx were for television in 1978.
There would be no big-budget specialty channels or streaming services for several decades.
Star Trek cost $150,000 to 200,000 an episode. The BSG pilot (albeit 10 years later) was
$7 - 9 million. It was even released theatrically (in Sensurround no less) to recoup costs.
This was cinema quality on television !! And that was a first. Now we have The Expanse and The Michael Bernham Discovery Hour, but in 1978 television Sci-Fi looked decidedly television.
With obvious signs that ILM was involved.
Seeing Michael 'Marry Sue' Bernham mentioned in the same breath as the original BSG and the Expanse upsets my stomach.
@@omicron6513 Only bothers me that they call it "Star Trek" Discovery. Seems like a helluvalot of nerve to show zero-respect to a beloved franchise and still keep it's name.
@@omicron6513
Because obviously REAL Science Fiction only happens to men? And white ones at that?
Life must be a really frightening place for you.
@@dixievfd55 same guys
Much better than having all of them Basestars launching nukes at the colonies. I loved the energy-based weapons instead of the re-make using bullets.
Though I wasn't born, for 1978 they did a cracking job matching up the very manual visual effects with practical effects, I cant imagine the care it took to marry up a laser blast with that section of wall blowing out before CGI, and the matt paintings on the backdrop, all done with a lot of love and talent.
Ya gotta admit these were damn good effects for made for tv at the time.
I never knew Jane Seymour, aka Dr Quinn Medicine Woman was in the original Battlestar Glactica. You really do learn something new every day.
It was saddening when Jane's character got killed off, but it's likely that this stage of her career, Jane didn't want to do TV on a weekly basis.
The cinematic style was so much better back then. The visual pacing was slower and more dramatic. The slow ominous Cylon lentimof coupled with the lingering shot of the base star. Epic!
Saw this with my dad on T.V. when it aired for the first time, my dad could not believe the special effects!
900 Raiders attempting to destroy, building by building, thousands and thousands of cities, towns, and villages on 12 planets. They should be done in 25 years.
The visual effects were amazingly well done considering that BATTLESTAR GALACTICA was a television production, and it premiered in September, 1978, just a few months before I went on active duty in the Air Force. If memory serves me correct, the first episode (this one) snared an Emmy Award in the Visual Effects category. They were accomplished by producer John Dykstra.
The first 2 parter, Saga of a Star World, was originally released as a movie in theaters. At least that's where I saw it first.
That was the downfall - they spent wall too much money on the effects which ended up killing the show. It was cancelled mainly for the fact they could not continue to pay for it all.
The effects team on Star Wars did the model effects for Battlestar. Look how much more advanced the motion control rigs for the spaceships were, especially the banking and rolling, compared to A New Hope only one year earlier!
@@jogordon1530 And yet if they had cheapened out on the effects after a blockbuster like Star Wars, Battlestar would have tanked anyway. It was a no win situation.
アメリカのテレビドラマは侮れませんねぇ。でも、劇場映画並みのスケールですから、凄かったです‼️
I was 8 when I saw this. Before VCRs, before DVD, before the Internet. Only now studying the scene do I see the Caprican cities had pyramid-shaped skyscrapers. Those under age 40 really cannot imagine what it was like. This was movie-quality sfx in 1978 yet there it was on our little TV sets. Watching Humanity being wiped out on the eve of peace was some heavy isht for a child to see. That was a time when virtually every parent rushed their kids away if the TV show said "parental guidance suggested". A totally different United States than the one that exists today.
It really upset me to see mankind wiped out like that. It's a great way to establish a villain. I hated Baltar so much. The greatest traitor in human history. Anyway, it was such a fun show. I loved every minute of it. Of course the latest version was surprisingly even better.
On 9/11 I was Active Duty Air Force and my Gen X nerd ass was thinking of this scene as I looked up in the sky seeing GWB’s escort Vipers fly over our base.
I enlisted late so my cohorts were all millennials who would not know anything about Battlestar Galactica until the reboot came-out in 2003.
Yes it was probably unnecessary to
imagine there would be enemy fighters violating US airspace, but orders were, “Be ready for anything,” so naturally one’s imagination would get involved.
2:53 is the money shot. When I saw this on TV at 11 years old I still remember going "whoaaaaaa!"
Was some scary stuff back in the day.
Cylon voices...about the most amazing thing for a bad guy...
Patrick McNee. John Steed from the Avengers and the New Avengers.
@@patricklyons794 He's talking about the centurion robot voices.
I was born in ‘76 but watched this in early 80’s loved it.
Can't believe they killed the dog. Dirty rotten rustbuckets
It's a Dagett
John Wick would like to have a word
chromebuckets
And now you know why lil Boxey ends up with Muffit 2(daggit droid)
Excellent. According to an Encyclopedia of BSG released in the late 70s or early 80s indicated that the Twelve Colonies had a population of 70 Billion... Those Basestars definitely glassed the twelve worlds. Metron Bombs, Energy Pulsars, Turbolasers. The Raiders simply strafed the cities.
It was all very controlled destruction. As some areas around the destroyed Caprica City still had grass lol. The Adama estate however was obliterated and smoldering with the implication that Adama's wife Ila was vaporized. On other colonies entire swaths of the planet surface is just straight up 🔥🔥🔥
Encyclopedia Galactica?
@@darthplagueis4626 yeah. Ironically there's another unrelated book with the exact same title lol
@@richardched6085 It didn't help that The Cylons took them completely by surprise! After all, this was SUPPOSED to be the end of the war... And in a way, it WAS... Just NOT the end Humanity wanted it to be!
@@leaderstragg yeah lol. Everyone breathed a sigh of relief... Then breathed in flames.
@@darthplagueis4626 “In many of the more casual civilizations on the far eastern edge of the galaxy, the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy has long since replaced the great Encyclopaedia Galactica as the standard reference work for all knowledge and wisdom. Because although it has many gaps and contains many things that are very doubtful or at least insanely inaccurate, it is superior to the older, much more lengthy work in two ways. Firstly, it's a bit cheaper and, secondly, the words DON'T PANIC are written in large, friendly letters on the envelope. "
Something about scale model special effects (the basestars) is just appealing.
Those are incredible special effects for TV show in 1978
incredible that just a year after Star Wars this was on television.
First it was in theaters. THEN it was on television.
@@patricklyons794 no it was a TV mini series that became a series.
@@onthewater4189 Well I saw Saga of a Star World in the theater.
@@onthewater4189 The 2004 series started as a TV miniseries. The 2 part pilot of the 1978 series was shown on theaters. At least in Canada. 🇨🇦
@@patricklyons794 The original show had a small theatrical run outside the USA prior to being show on TV. In the USA, at least part of the TV show aired before the theatrical release.
"By your command, all Basestars are in range to attack, but are receiving interference from an ancient Sanskrit Gayatri mantra reconfigured into a rocking song!"
I absolutely loved this show as a kid, along with Buck Rogers, too bad both shows didn't last very long.
This version was a lot better than the reboot
Lolz no
GINO was felgercarb! This IS Battlestar Galactica! 😎🤩🥳🌟✌️👏
False.
The Cylon robot centurions and their synth voices were better in this series that's for sure.
That futuristic building in the scenes is the old Long Beach California Civic Center, I grew up near there!
"No peace in our time. Once more unto the breach."
--cyclons, probably.
Well, they WERE convinced that their plan was utterly FLAWLESS so why take peace seriously when the war is going to end in YOUR favor? At least, that's what I think The Imperious leader was asking when Baltar made him an offer...
i had a few action figures and ships from this series as a kid..
The Cylons had the coolest voices!
And remember that the higher the rank of the cylon officer, the deeper the robotic voice?
up to this day it is not possible to recreate them 100% . Some people got close, but still not a 100% :)
agree!
@@GrnXnham yeah, those were Command Centurions
They were also Gold plated in addition to having the deeper voice than the Standard Centurions
@@karlsmith2570 Funny that I could never see the color difference in the cylons when I was a kid. We had a Black & White TV back then and it was difficult to see the difference between gold and silver! Yeah, I know--kids today going "What's a black and white TV?"
I always loved the designs of the Cylon fighters and Base Ships....the model work gave them an impressive sense of scale that I didn't get from the ones in the reboot.
At least Dr. Quinn was there to set up a triage unit.
Solitaire alway looked dope.
Centurion: Oh mighty Imperious Leader, your fro hairdo is dynamite! What you put in it? Afro-Sheen?
Imperious Leader: Your attempts at flattery are as awkward as your artificial voice. Dispense with the pleasantries and give your report.
It's always hard to ask for a raise even when using flattery. 😆
I've seen probably three different cuts of this scene, but while the attack is far less efficient and as such a bit less logical than the one in the Reboot, it actually hits home harder. Killing the guy, the dog, you see regular civilians just sitting there all happy only to be openly massacred, it ends up working better.
Agreed. They looked more menacing and appeared to have greater volume. They were like cities in space.
And the amount of ponchos lost that day was incalculable. Got to love the 70s man.
Sorry, I can't agree with that. For one thing, everything about this makes it look like Caprica had a population of about 30 people. You see the same thing on most science fiction TV shows -- they just cannot handle the scale needed. As for the Cylon weapons, here they seem to be maybe the equivalent of a 500 lb bomb. To nuke a planet, you need actual nukes -- big ones, and plenty of them. Or something bigger, of course, but not something smaller. Otherwise it is massively impractical.
I am old enough to remember this when it first came out, so I am old enough to remember the Cold War, when everyone thought a nuclear holocaust was inevitable and took it very seriously. Today it remains possible and even increasingly likely, in no small part because it is not taken seriously by so many of the people in key positions.
@@christosvoskresye The part about it not being as efficient as the one in the reboot where they did use Nukes was something I stated up front. But it never looks like there are only 30 people. Besides, its not always about home many people you show but how you show them.
@@jhmcd2 Let me put it this way: the original showed a dog killed, the reboot showed a BABY being murdered in cold blood. There is no way the original hit harder. I'll grant you that how death is dealt with makes a huge difference -- after all, no one really cries for all the people killed in a Godzilla movie. But again, the original was worse in this respect. In the original, the colonials got over the near-extinction of the human species more quickly and completely than many fans get over FOOTBALL GAMES. The shock, the horror, the grief, the PTSD, these were all delt with MUCH better in the reboot.
Jane Seymour, awesome! I remember this show had a lot of cool actors/actresses.
Doctor Quinn medicine woman was like: Where the heck is Sully when you need him, gosh darn it! A tomahawk would surely take care of those shiny good-for-nothing rascals"
Cylons are WAY cooler then Stormtroopers........
Cooler but not any more accurate!🤪
The Viper: best space fighter ever designed, bar none
I always liked the guy at 4:11. I guess he's just a hardened combat vet doing his job.....realizing there will be more deaths if he doesn't.
Omega.
I remember having my mind blow when I saw this, so many years ago
One of my favorite TV show
The old Cylon bases in the first series are so much more badass than the ones in the second series.
Saw the Battlestar Galactica movie in the theatres. Amazing
In Canada?
What battlestar galactica movie? Did it ever air in the US and what was the name. Was it any good I wanna watch it if I can find itm
@@efone3553 The first 3 episodes of this, just like the opening episodes of the Buck Rogers show were released theatrically in Canada and other areas
Remember seeing commercials in America for a movie release after it had aired on TV.
This was so well done for 1978. I love the older basestar and battlestar ship designs.
It was one of the gorgeous tv series. It is long years after today what happens in the series . They have high technologies, colonies, space crafts, wireless connections inter-crafts and so on ... but the microphone of the woman presenting the news on the live broadcast is still wired. :)
Stu Phillips' musical theme for the Cylons is fittingly ominous and threatening.
"There will be peace In our times." Neville Chamberlain
And thus did a human civilization that had grown great over seven millennia fall in a single night - due to the stupidity of politicians who laughingly called themselves “the greatest leaders ever assembled”.
Yes the President was a total idiot for not having ships on standby.
@The Mystery Man I don't think Adama controlled the entire fleet-just his personal Battlestar (he was closer to a captain than an admiral) If he told the other Battlestar commanders to ignore their president, they'd probably have him up for treason
@The Mystery Man I stand corrected. Still, I don't think usurping authority would have been received well if he tried to order the other Battlestar captains to disobey their president
@@LBF522 His nickname was Brandon
Love knowing that it's not nostalgia. This show was way better than I even remember.
Part of my saturday night as a kid.. Star Trek, Buck Rogers in the 25th century, UFO and of course Battlestar Gallactica! What a childhood! And whew, hated the reboots..Cylons looking like humans.. i understand logically but just looked like a way to save money on special effects/costumes. These are much more foreboding.
Woooohooo! I have the ORIGINAL Colonial Viper AND the Cylon Raider from '78 hanging above me right now in my home studio. Jeeze... I just realized that they're both 45 years old!
If you read the comic book series "the death of Apollo" you will find out a critical detail on why, exactly, Count Iblis had launched that attack- it wanted to draw the resistance from its own dimension into direct combat so it could wipe them out as a brief summary.
We must remain stealthy in the universe because even if there's a 1% chance our first contact with alien life is aggressive it's best we find their home planet first.... otherwise this video can be a scene our grandchildren may encounter.
Every time I see Jane Seymour reporting in this scene, there is a cadence and her describing the scene that makes me think... As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.
The Ceylon-fighter’s reminds me at Moths.😂😂🎥🎞🎬🚀🚀🥁
Sorry Darth. But the Cylon' Suit and voices have a huge part of my beloved memories.
I like the 2003 remake version but the mythology of the 1978 original can't be beat
I almost forgot Jane Seymour was in the original BSG. My goodness she was smoking hot then and still smoking hot now.
The greatly enhanced reflection and specular highlight on the Cylons in the original show really helped sell them as artificial constructs rather than people in suits.
I loved this show as a kid. Maybe more than SW
Just noticed something I missed before. In the opening scene, the two Centurions walk into the leader's throne room. These are robots. Machines manufactured in a (probably) standardized factory. One of them is taller than the other, and the shorter robot is looking down at the floor as he walks, while the other one is looking straight ahead. I mean...I get it. 1970s TV budget. But at least you could have selected people to fill the suits who were all the same height? And redo the shot with the one guy putting in a little more effort? Love the show, but they sure did cut some corners.
It's amazing that this series came out as well as it did as it was plagued with problems from the get go. Different sized Cylons were the least of their problems :)
no they were alive if you read the books the leaders are surgically given a 3rd brain that gives them the power to lead, the movies/tv show cut a lot of the story from the books which i would read if i was you. think of them as something like the borg but with less machine parts
@@TheSLUser was Galactica based on a book, or was the book based on the series. If the latter is true, then it's a case of the books trying to fill in the blanks or errors not addressed in the series.
Alien Acting school didn't exist until Galaxy Quest. This scene is a shining example of why this school is so important and why it should have happened much sooner than it did.
@@Gizmo1st It's the books based on the series. I actually have a couple of them from when I was a kid.
There's a rumor a Cylon centurion can only be bribed with a dozen cans of metal polish.
The special effect still looks good today
The Cylon practical suits were so much better and more menacing than the CG versions on the Battlestar reboot. The costumes would probably have been cheaper to make than animating less than convincing, low rez 3D renders.
I actually found the original Cylons more threatening and mysterious. The reboot Cylons were kind of a retread of the basic "machines turning against humans" plotline.
I thought the reboot was fantastic except for the CGI centurians, which were a bit underwhelming. That and the fact that all the Final Five were, rather conveniently, either already on Galactica or, somewhat miraculously, managed to survive the Cylon assualt and make their way to Galactica.
@@ivorbiggun710 there's nothing convenient about it they were put there
The reboot missed the mark when it came to the Cylons. I hope the re-reboot have a more traditional Cylon arc.
I was 8 years old when this premiered on Televisión. The Cylons were way better than Stormtroopers. I still have the first three issues from the original Marvel comic book series.
Stormtroopers: Strictly official Regulation White only.
Cylons: JAZZ UP YOUR ARMOR BOYS! 😜
Bye your command. Love both versions of BSG.
When colonel tigh cry’s that always gets me, he really sells it
This series and the 2004's remake are fantastic.
the remake was nothing like the original,give me the original any day
@@iamnewfie1 AMEN!!!
I always looked at him, great💕
The reboot nuking the colonies was far more "oh crap, we are on the very very edge of going down FOREVER." But for it's era, 1978, this was UNHEARD of. Nothing on the small screen had even a whisper of this. Nothing at all. And the music. I will always love the 1970's BSG intro music.
I do love how quite a few things from TOS made their way into the reboot and were used to represent the First Cylon War. And the original BGS theme is apparently the Colonial Anthem in the reboot.
Jane Seymour is almost offensively gorgeous
Seriously goooood lookin'. She adds a couple of beats per minute to every man's heart next to her. 😊
I never noticed this before but... When Jane Seymor's character is talking, I can actually SEE her breath like it's FREEZING outside! Just how clod was it on set that night?
I think it’s just outside. Not a set
I wish they had let Jane Seymour speak with her normal British accent. She was trying to sound American, but the result was that her speech pattern seemed a bit awkward. I'm glad that after this episode they let her ease into her normal accent.
They shot that scene at the Long Beach City Hall and Civic Center Complex in the early spring of 1978 at night.
HOLY SHIT THAT IS JANE SEYMOUR
it was very clod
Best sci fi series. Should have lasted longer.
Great effect at 1:15.
I get chills watching this clip.
If only they had made this much effort during the rest of the series, instead of recycling the same Cylon clips endlessly they might not have lost so much audience.
The original plan was to make a series of telemovies. Making these was quite expensive and additional, once the show was approved, the required rate of production interfered with the slower visual effects process. Quite understandably, the two-parters had the best production values. The recycling also extended to the music as several episodes were scored entirely with tracked cues from previous episodes.
@@darthplagueis4626 @Darth Plagueis Recycled music is not so bad. The same musical theme whenever a base star is shown is fine with me, like the beginning of this clip. However, every space battle with the Cyclons was a rehash of the same clips, same attack runs over the Galacatica (sometimes several times), the same damage/fires to the Galactica, same bridge damage, and the same fire control on the bridge. What really irked me was the clip used in Fire in Space (and other places) is from another movie and has a burning railroad tank car in the carnage.
I understand what you are saying, but you have to realise how much time it takes to make space battle scenes back then with models. The fact that they didn't expect to have to make a series means that they had NO time. For instance Return of the Jedi's space scenes took almost a full year of full-time work to make. You also have to factor in budget. It's a little known fact that Glen A Larson was robbing Peter to pay Paul to make these (His other successful show at the time was the Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew show. It went under budget, and he used some of that to pad the budget for this show. That is why a LOT of the stars of this show guest starred on the Hardy Boys show like Adama, Baltar, Imperious Leader/Iblis and others)
Trust me, this was a different time as far as money and even ratings (with only 3 major channels in the US (2 in Canada) the ratings meant EVRYTHING.
The ratings were still very good at the end of the season, The show was cancelled because of the production cost. It was simply more economic to spend a fraction on a show that got almost as good of ratings
@@martinbatistelli some people dont realize how *INCREDIBLY* expensive special effects are. SFX clips were like gold dust during the 70s and 80s. The entire special effects budget for the whole Battlestar Galactica series would not even cover ONE LASER BEAM in Star Wars.
I always cheered for the cylons. for machines they couldn't aim at a target very well.
Only Imperial Troops are so precise...
What do you expect? They had only the one red eye = and that was bouncing back and forth like ping-pong ball.
Kind of like Imperial Storm Troopers!
@@mikeh.8912
“I can't see a thing in this helmet.”
@@flashkellam7395 I remember a dialog like that in a parody of the show between two Cylons about why they kept on getting defeated in an issue of MAD magazine.
Me encantaba esta serie, aunque la veo ahora y cosas como la diferencia en la altura entre uno y otro cylon me hacen bastante gracia.
Love how each Cylon is an individual, great how it’s not just another machine hive mind
Then you'll enjoy Gary the Cylon on TH-cam then.
On old TV sets back in the day, you couldn't tell that the tiled floor of the Presidium was 4x8 sheets of plywood arranged to make a checkerboard pattern.
Amazing how they are all just sitting there like “well this is interesting” almost like they forgot they were on a warship….
I always wanted them to develop the characters of Rigel and Omega more.
Yes!
I always thought she was cute (Rigel)
@@SJHFoto Yes, and she seemed like a sweet woman.
all this plus an incredible sound track
Can't help but look at the background and remember the test equipment I used to work on, Tektronix.
This is yet another example of someone who gets to say, "I TOLD YOU SO," and too late to stop it.
Just noticing the Cylon leader manually turning the seat with his legs. If being Cylon leader doesn't earn you a motorised seat then I don't want the job.
Emperor Palpatine had the same issue five years later.
Developing his cardio was always important to the imperious leader. He preferred the manually operated chair so that he could stay in excellent physical condition!
1:16 One of many iconic effects shots from _Battlestar Galactica._
Cylon pilots: "Forget the humans, kill the kid's daggit!!!"
Looking back now pretty dark for kids show still holds up this scene
Awesome visuals, even by today's standards!
Galctica was for me as a Kid much more impressive than Star-Wars... I liked the effect's much more and the story was better. I dont need a Jedi... i want Adama, Starbug and the others :-) Sorry for my bad english ;-)
No worries. A good story when told well is good for everyone.
Apparently the Cylons didn't have weapons of mass destruction back in the 1970's. Why else would they have attacked the colonial planets with fighter jets designed for space and air combat? Curiously, after decades of war with the Cylons, the colonies apparently had no defensive weapons at their disposal. Apparently there were Cylons with different body sizes. Hopefully the seats in the Raiders were also adjustable so the Centurions could sit comfortably... lol
ABC made the biggest mistake in that network's history. BSG could have been a franchise that earned millions of dollars and loyal fans for generations. Instead of giving Galactica a second season, the network cancels the series after the first season and then insult fans by offering Galactica 1980; a show network executives knew viewers of the show would never accept.
What I thought they should have done instead of the 1980 concept was use the props they still had from Buck Rogers (also a Glen A Larson show) and have Galactica find earth in Buck's 25th century. That could neatly tie things up easier and be more exciting
1 Thessalonians 5:3 When they say, “Peace and security,” then sudden destruction comes on them, like labor pains come on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
The tall building with the "Peace" planter area is actually Long Beach (CA) City Hall.
TVドラマとしては凄いクオリティだったよな😆