Watched this when I was 10 years old. First question I asked even though I knew my Dad would smack me for talking...... What does God need with a starship? Then Kirk asked the same thing and he looked at me a little different after that. Nice memory of me and my Dad.
I Worked on this set at Parmount studios on my first few weeks as a labor removing the dirt and destroying the pillars. I was like wow all these years knowing about Star Trek and I was working on a set!
Kirk may have questioned a God, but Sybok stepped up and started throwing hands with one. Any Klingons witnessing such a glorious final battle would just give up war and become monks, because they ain't topping that! I appreciate the old Trek movies more and more as time goes on...none impressed me on release, but they are aging with a dignity that modern media just can't compete with IMO.
that was sybok''s absolution for the chaos he caused for people. in the booko he's definitely more messianic. larry luckenbill is very likeable. i thought he did a great though. i'm reading the novelization rn
@@grawakendream8980 I really love him in this movie. His character is a great addition to Star Trek no matter which movie he was in. I know you love this movie. Unfortunatelly I can't, still this movie is good enough in my book because of him and a couple of other good things.
watch the end of ST2 where kirk notices spock isn't in his chair, watch the desperate run towards engineering through the ship, with the music, i dare you to not cry.
I think a really close second if not tied, is the follow up "You did not answer his question, what does God need with a starship?" Spock doubling down on logic in order to back up his friend against "God" is such an awesome example of friendship.
isn't it crazy how these guys had a short lived series and 7 movies and will be the most recognized scifi cast ever. Just amazing writing and talent that lives on through the decades. It's all gone now.. and that's sad.
@@maxwellcrazycat9204 sad to hear about that. *EDIT* Okay, I am happy to take that back after checking his status. George Takei's health is just fine for a 80+ yo man, may he live long and prosper!
If someone builds a prison for a god, dont let it out. It was there for a reason. In one of the novels, the Q fought two of these. One was imprisoned here, the other is kept outside the galaxy by the galactic barrier(the one that drives you insane and grants super powers.)
@@icecold9511 To me it always seemed like the BoP is just beating it back. Non-corporeal entities in Star Trek never seem to be permanently destroyed without destroying a power source of some kind. Don't see one here, and the planet is a prison after all. Death is an escape, so no help there.
@@rooshadjoshi5582 The Q Continuum series, I think. Its been a while, but the idea was the guardian of Forever summoned them into this universe at Q's request.
I always liked how ol' McCoy was ready to ride the lightning and take his hit, once he saw Spock and Kirk get knocked down. The three friends stood together through everything. There'll never be another trio like that in film.
Love how quickly and confidently Sybok just walked up to a godlike energy being and started throwing hands. Makes me miss old fashioned heroics. Once he knew he made a mistake, there was no hesitation or question about what he needed to do. Boss move.
My personal moment in this scene is when Bones, after helping Spock confronts "God" and says one of my personal best lines I carry with me all my days. I too doubt any god who inflicts pain for their own pleasure, could be said for just about every "religious" "soul" that punches down on others instead of helping others onto their feet when those downtrodden need to be picked up and shown true compassion. That's why I'll always love Bones
God is not answerable to mortal notions of suffering and right or wrong. God may torture a man to change the course of his life, or may destroy a civilization (or allow it to be destroyed) to make way for a more righteous one. You can't hold a rule book to God on any subject for any reason. God IS the rule.
This is a great reply. And I like how all of them address "god’s" need of a spaceship in their own particular way. Kirk because he is skeptical. Spok because he's logical and Bones because he is compassionate. None of them bowed to fear in confronting "god”. They acted truthfully like the great men they are. We can never let greater strength or fear cower us into making wrong decisions and those that do prove themselves to be unworthy of the task.
A stroke of irony that Kirk was the only logical one here in the whole movie. Even Spock was "compromised" with Sybok being his half brother. And the only one that Sybok couldn't manipulate.
Belief is a powerful thing. Perhaps the Vulcan faith in logic is, itself, just one more example of that. Which should be a theme in a much better movie..
Spock was Emotionally compromised due to his brother’s involvement. They clearly had issues between them and their father. Bones was living with the regret over his father’s death. Kirk used his pain, like of his son’s death, to keep on going. “I NEED my pain!” Says so much about Kirk. Remember this movie is about false or deceptive prophets, like televangelists. Freeing easy solutions to people’s pain and loss. Of course Kirk is “this is bullshit”.
I saw this movie just yesterday for the first time!! Thing is, this scene isn't that bad at all, you just have to forget 58-year old Kirk free-climbing El Capitan, Uhura doing a burlesque dance as a distraction, Scotty comically banging his head in the middle of a jailbreak, Chekhov and Sulu being brainwashed, then not, then ah who cares, etc. Other than the entire movie up to this point, Sybok is pretty well acted, is quite complex and has a redemption arc, and we get a glimpse of the struggles with faith that everyone, even in the future, might face. "What does God need with a starship?" is a perfect distillation of human reasoning in this setting.
I always thought it was cool how "God" had those big rock things already there in the ground ready to shove up in the air and freak someone the fuck out when they finally showed up. A real power play.
Still one of my all time favs.. The idea that against all odds, god is out there somewhere just made me feel such awe and magic. Of course the twist is great, but the idea still fascinates me to this day.
A few things. 1. This creature, regardless of being God or not, wasnt very clever. He could have answered Kirks question with, "I dont need A ship, I needed YOUR ship." It would trick them to having more of a meaning of being there. Possibly. 2. I felt saddened when Kirk spoke after being struck. He wanted it to be real. Especially for Mccoy. 3. He could have been honest. Just say he was trapped here from long ago. He's ancient. Means no harm. Holds knowledge. He didn't have to pretend and start attacking people.
It was what he was made from. All that mental energy directed into this form. Built from ego, arrogance, hatred, narcissism. All of it festering and growing for decades, maybe even centuries.
Apparently, an unknown alien civilization imprisoned this creature for some reason. It seems likely this entity was one of their deviants, probably one which misused the powers he possess and therefore had to be confined. And the Enterprise was poised to transport this creature away from his confines to enable ... well, God know what.
For those who have an unreasonable aversion to dictionaries, the appropriate word when discussing the criterion by which something is judged is "canon." A "cannon" is a gun.
I think that's actually correct per the books. This thing was imprisoned by the Q, and the barrier was indeed setup to keep these kind of cosmic entities out. There's quite a few malevolent Q-like entities, but the Q are at the top of the food chain or close to the top.
This entity is M. It is a being as powerful (or more) than the Q but far more tyrannical and destructive. The Q continuum locked it in the center of the universe to keep it from destroying everything at its pleasure.
"What does God need with a starship" I love this ST one liners that just succinctly convey the obvious absurdity of the situation. Right up there is "how can there be an order to abandon the orime directive" and "You want me to go behind enemy lines and teaxh Cardassians to be resistance fighters?"
This “god” was pretty stupid, if he would have played it cool and played the part, more ships would have come, he probably would have got his way eventually.
Watched it cuz I liked your tag line. Never noticed before that Kirk seemed to feel bad for Sybok when he called the ship. William Shatner takes a lot of heat for some of his broader acting & his very good subtle acting gets so overlooked. What a gift these characters & stories have been for all of us.
I don't know about everyone else, but if I meet God, the first thing I am going to ask is, "Do you need a starship?" ....(How He answers is the proof 😂)
I remember a lore that was written that claimed it was cannon. That it was a being that was summoned from the Guardian of Forever by a Q who was bored. Q requested that a being equivalent to a Q may arrive through it. Eventually they became enemies. This being and the Q. This being killed off the Iconians, then the Q couldn't destroy it so they imprisoned it here. Anyone else hear or read the same?
Man this movie was such a fantastic take down of religion. "What does god need with a star ship" Why does God need man to do his works for him? An all powerful being needs your money to enact his will? Yeah tell me another one. Then the immediate and violent retribution for daring to ask a question is something you see everywhere in the old testament. Then, the cherry on top, when he takes the form of Sybok. Every believer thinks that God, purely by coincidence, hates everything and everyone they hate and forgives everyone and everything they forgive believes and supports everything they believe and support. Almost as if God is just them but with the power to enforce their will onto everyone around them. ;)
The twist is this is precisely who the god of Abraham is. In the "old testament" it quite clearly states that god can be/is cruel, petty, manipulative and jealous. Only the ignorant believe the preachers and priests sermons about love and empathy. The Lord of the Elohim, the "most high's" ego demands praise and subjugation.
This movie gets a bad rap - shatner got robbed in the budget and the final edit - but it’s a good story. The scene where Kirk Spock and McCoy are forced to confront their worst painful memories is beautiful .
To be fair, a photon torpedo is supposed to be, like, an order of magnitude or seven more powerful than a thermonuclear fusion bomb...and they only jumped a few feet behind a rock. I mean, they blow up Death Stars with those thi..oh. That's the other one..
Chekhov's torpedo shot. Um. Aren't photon torpedoes antimatter explosives with a multi-megaton warhead ? Ducking behind some rocks wouldn't really be enough to save you. About 25km would be far enough away, I think.
Maybe the firepower is very concentrated in a small area. Very powerful and destructive in a very concentrated package, more like a laser than a grenade.
This is confirmation of an old adage : good people can pretend to be bad, but bad people cannot even pretend to be good - especially over time. Eventually or even immediately they are tripped up by their own negative traits that they're simply unable to hide.
If they could breach it , why couldnt he? This reminded me of the Twilight Zone where the monks had imprisoned Satan , yet Satan convinced a stranger to let him go
kind of amazing how stupid this "all powerful being" was. Even with a basic human intelligence and all that power it should have been able to make a convincing presentation. May have been powerful, but was pretty stupid.
It may have been intelligent but it was blinded by it's arrogance and feeling of superiority. You don't think a squirrel can beat you until it builds a trap in your fridge.
Motion Picture was really not good, Wrath of Khan was excellent, Search for Spock was deep, Voyage Home was fun as hell, Undiscovered Country is second only to Wrath, Final Frontier is just so over-the-top that it doesn't care and I respect it I also "What does god need with a starship?" goes so hard and I love it
Mostvinvenive episode of Star Trek. Sxplains how the myth of Hods arose. But stop believing and you drain their energy and they die. Convinced me to be an Atheist.
It's a shame, if only technology advancement was not so slow. We may now have the special effects skills, but our story telling skills have significantly dropped. I'm not specially talking about this movie, but you can't denied that it is true that the best storylines have already been done.
My best guess is "because William Shatner directed this movie", but you could maybe argue that Spock had this very same thought but needed more time to formulate a question, while Kirk being more impulsive and emotional blurted it out it in a more brusque, challenging manner.
It is nearly impossible for mortals to tell. That's what make it such a ridiculous system. Why dies the divine allow demons to communicate with mortals and pretend they are him?
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Not the biggest fan of this movie, but “What does God need with a starship?” is still one of the best lines in all of the franchises.
Always been my favorite Kirk line, since the movie came out.
Another good one is ”I doubt any God who inflicts pain for his own pleasure“
i love this movie
Sybok is also great and the opening is awesome. This movie could have been good.
@@Zodroo_Tint it was good, come on
Watched this when I was 10 years old. First question I asked even though I knew my Dad would smack me for talking...... What does God need with a starship? Then Kirk asked the same thing and he looked at me a little different after that. Nice memory of me and my Dad.
Your dad hit you for asking a question?
your dad was a violent rager
ah yes, the unsolicited violence from asking questions. what cherished childhood memories those are.
@@JohnHandle- well-said.
Memories of what? Living in fear of your father smacking you just for asking a question?
I Worked on this set at Parmount studios on my first few weeks as a labor removing the dirt and destroying the pillars.
I was like wow all these years knowing about Star Trek and I was working on a set!
Majel ripped off Jean's daughter for her inheritance.
@@RaymondBastien-li6co He ripped off a lot of people.
If you took a piece of the pillars! Yooouuuuuuuu!
Kirk may have questioned a God, but Sybok stepped up and started throwing hands with one.
Any Klingons witnessing such a glorious final battle would just give up war and become monks, because they ain't topping that!
I appreciate the old Trek movies more and more as time goes on...none impressed me on release, but they are aging with a dignity that modern media just can't compete with IMO.
In fairness, the Klingons are proud that they killed their own gods, so this guy is going to be the only Vulcan in Sto Vo Kor.
that was sybok''s absolution for the chaos he caused for people. in the booko he's definitely more messianic. larry luckenbill is very likeable. i thought he did a great though. i'm reading the novelization rn
@@grawakendream8980 I really love him in this movie. His character is a great addition to Star Trek no matter which movie he was in. I know you love this movie. Unfortunatelly I can't, still this movie is good enough in my book because of him and a couple of other good things.
watch the end of ST2 where kirk notices spock isn't in his chair, watch the desperate run towards engineering through the ship, with the music, i dare you to not cry.
FKG PROFOUND AS S***!!!
"What does God need with a starship?" Best Star Trek movie line ever.
this whole scene has magnificent dialog
I think a really close second if not tied, is the follow up "You did not answer his question, what does God need with a starship?" Spock doubling down on logic in order to back up his friend against "God" is such an awesome example of friendship.
@@TheBoneduster Kirk, McCoy and Spock: instinct, heart and mind
isn't it crazy how these guys had a short lived series and 7 movies and will be the most recognized scifi cast ever. Just amazing writing and talent that lives on through the decades. It's all gone now.. and that's sad.
Shatner is doing pretty good for 93 years old. Captain Kirk still going strong! :)
Koenig and Takei still kicking too.
@@eightbitguru Takei is alive. But his mind is gone.
@@maxwellcrazycat9204 sad to hear about that. *EDIT* Okay, I am happy to take that back after checking his status. George Takei's health is just fine for a 80+ yo man, may he live long and prosper!
@@maxwellcrazycat9204 not even remotely true.
Kirk says to God "Excuse Me" 😁
yes, and with the hand up also like a school boy 😁
Captain Karen.
If someone builds a prison for a god, dont let it out. It was there for a reason. In one of the novels, the Q fought two of these. One was imprisoned here, the other is kept outside the galaxy by the galactic barrier(the one that drives you insane and grants super powers.)
Which novel? Would love to read that
And yet a few disruptor blasts from a klingon ship ended him.
Sounds like my wife on PMT
@@icecold9511 To me it always seemed like the BoP is just beating it back. Non-corporeal entities in Star Trek never seem to be permanently destroyed without destroying a power source of some kind. Don't see one here, and the planet is a prison after all. Death is an escape, so no help there.
@@rooshadjoshi5582 The Q Continuum series, I think. Its been a while, but the idea was the guardian of Forever summoned them into this universe at Q's request.
I always liked how ol' McCoy was ready to ride the lightning and take his hit, once he saw Spock and Kirk get knocked down. The three friends stood together through everything. There'll never be another trio like that in film.
Not to mention that he made the most damning statement against this "god"--that any powerful being that inflicts pain is not worthy of worship.
Clarkson, Hammond and May.
There is and there will be, be honest!
And I'm sure he was ready to take the hit not because he is their friend but because he is a doctor.
@@maxforceagreed
McCoy is no "soldier", but he's a real man. Loved Bones.
Love how quickly and confidently Sybok just walked up to a godlike energy being and started throwing hands.
Makes me miss old fashioned heroics. Once he knew he made a mistake, there was no hesitation or question about what he needed to do.
Boss move.
Yup. Just like our Enterprise crew would do. Really liked his character, even if I didn't think he needed to be Spock's brother for the story to work.
My personal moment in this scene is when Bones, after helping Spock confronts "God" and says one of my personal best lines I carry with me all my days. I too doubt any god who inflicts pain for their own pleasure, could be said for just about every "religious" "soul" that punches down on others instead of helping others onto their feet when those downtrodden need to be picked up and shown true compassion. That's why I'll always love Bones
God is not answerable to mortal notions of suffering and right or wrong. God may torture a man to change the course of his life, or may destroy a civilization (or allow it to be destroyed) to make way for a more righteous one. You can't hold a rule book to God on any subject for any reason. God IS the rule.
@@mrblack888 that's deflection thanks for playing.
@@PuppetierMaster You need a higher IQ to go on this ride.
This is a great reply. And I like how all of them address "god’s" need of a spaceship in their own particular way. Kirk because he is skeptical. Spok because he's logical and Bones because he is compassionate. None of them bowed to fear in confronting "god”. They acted truthfully like the great men they are. We can never let greater strength or fear cower us into making wrong decisions and those that do prove themselves to be unworthy of the task.
@@akinsamuel2007 well said
A stroke of irony that Kirk was the only logical one here in the whole movie. Even Spock was "compromised" with Sybok being his half brother. And the only one that Sybok couldn't manipulate.
Remember spock is still kind of spacy from his refusing. He doesn't mentally firm up until the undiscovered country
Kirk actually solved more of the ships major problems than Spock. Scotty solved more than Kirk.
Belief is a powerful thing. Perhaps the Vulcan faith in logic is, itself, just one more example of that. Which should be a theme in a much better movie..
Well, considering who directed this movie
Spock was Emotionally compromised due to his brother’s involvement. They clearly had issues between them and their father.
Bones was living with the regret over his father’s death.
Kirk used his pain, like of his son’s death, to keep on going. “I NEED my pain!” Says so much about Kirk.
Remember this movie is about false or deceptive prophets, like televangelists. Freeing easy solutions to people’s pain and loss. Of course Kirk is “this is bullshit”.
remember boys and girls, a photon torpedo has the power of 65 megatons minimum.
so hide behind a rock
well, it was a very big rock
😂
that's nothing compared to plot armor!
Adjustable yield, danger close fire mission. Could've just been a small charge
Wasn't that the power possessed by each B52 bomber in Dr. Strangelove?
I saw this movie just yesterday for the first time!! Thing is, this scene isn't that bad at all, you just have to forget 58-year old Kirk free-climbing El Capitan, Uhura doing a burlesque dance as a distraction, Scotty comically banging his head in the middle of a jailbreak, Chekhov and Sulu being brainwashed, then not, then ah who cares, etc. Other than the entire movie up to this point, Sybok is pretty well acted, is quite complex and has a redemption arc, and we get a glimpse of the struggles with faith that everyone, even in the future, might face. "What does God need with a starship?" is a perfect distillation of human reasoning in this setting.
The look on Syboks face when Kirk said youre insane. The doubt flashed in his face.
I love how the Klingons roll through a little later and just blast away at "God"
wait I thought it was their new gunner!
its actually spock
I always thought it was cool how "God" had those big rock things already there in the ground ready to shove up in the air and freak someone the fuck out when they finally showed up. A real power play.
Kinda like the TOS episode of Who Mourns for Adonis.
Still one of my all time favs.. The idea that against all odds, god is out there somewhere just made me feel such awe and magic. Of course the twist is great, but the idea still fascinates me to this day.
A few things.
1. This creature, regardless of being God or not, wasnt very clever. He could have answered Kirks question with, "I dont need A ship, I needed YOUR ship." It would trick them to having more of a meaning of being there. Possibly.
2. I felt saddened when Kirk spoke after being struck. He wanted it to be real. Especially for Mccoy.
3. He could have been honest. Just say he was trapped here from long ago. He's ancient. Means no harm. Holds knowledge. He didn't have to pretend and start attacking people.
I would be very curious to see Q confront this false "god," whatever it is. Imagine the dialogue between them.
It was what he was made from. All that mental energy directed into this form. Built from ego, arrogance, hatred, narcissism. All of it festering and growing for decades, maybe even centuries.
Apparently, an unknown alien civilization imprisoned this creature for some reason. It seems likely this entity was one of their deviants, probably one which misused the powers he possess and therefore had to be confined. And the Enterprise was poised to transport this creature away from his confines to enable ... well, God know what.
The entity had grown desperate and his facade fell away when his escape was so close.
3. He's God, god doesn't get "trapped".
You know $hit has gone bad when your Captain calls in a "Danger Close" Fire Mission on his own position
For those who have an unreasonable aversion to dictionaries, the appropriate word when discussing the criterion by which something is judged is "canon." A "cannon" is a gun.
Too many people don't know the difference.
Just be happy they know how to even read...
@@patnor7354 😆 True. I suppose I shouldn't complain, because the commenters on this video are a bit above average for the internet.
I'd like to think the Q continuem put up the galactic barrier.
To keep these lower lifeforms out
The q are the universes janitors. The allmighty janitors.
I think that's actually correct per the books. This thing was imprisoned by the Q, and the barrier was indeed setup to keep these kind of cosmic entities out. There's quite a few malevolent Q-like entities, but the Q are at the top of the food chain or close to the top.
Star Trek Time Lords, really. Peacekeepers and explorers of time and space
I always thought it was a rogue Q. Imprisoned by its peers.
This entity is M. It is a being as powerful (or more) than the Q but far more tyrannical and destructive. The Q continuum locked it in the center of the universe to keep it from destroying everything at its pleasure.
"What does God need with a starship"
I love this ST one liners that just succinctly convey the obvious absurdity of the situation.
Right up there is "how can there be an order to abandon the orime directive" and "You want me to go behind enemy lines and teaxh Cardassians to be resistance fighters?"
"I'm going to antagonize the people who are going to break me out of here BEFORE they break me out of here."
Do YOU doubt me??
This “god” was pretty stupid, if he would have played it cool and played the part, more ships would have come, he probably would have got his way eventually.
he was too triggered
Not more than a teenage boy around girls. The guy saw nobody for long time, don't be too harsh to him.
Now u know why they imprisoned the sociopath.
@ because it’s an idiot?
Why is shatner directing?
This scene takes on a whole new meaning for me these days.
When the one friend in the group brings you to a restaurant that sucks.
I mean this deceptive god sure gave away his cards easily. before escaping
this entity is the being that presented himself as ''god'' to many cultures through the history of the universe
What does god need with 10 percent of my paycheck 😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's not about God... it's about you.
As an Ex-Mormon, I laughed at this.
It makes perfect sense when you realize who god is.
Watched it cuz I liked your tag line. Never noticed before that Kirk seemed to feel bad for Sybok when he called the ship. William Shatner takes a lot of heat for some of his broader acting & his very good subtle acting gets so overlooked. What a gift these characters & stories have been for all of us.
“What does God need with the starship?”
“God needs to use the toilet.”
0:40...Shatner realizing "yeah this isn't a good movie im directing"
i love it
Yeah... "realizing"... that would a Shatner thing to do.
Yet, here you are 35 years later enjoying the clips of this "isn't a good movie"....👀👀
@@Buzz_Kill71 ha!
I don't know about everyone else, but if I meet God, the first thing I am going to ask is, "Do you need a starship?" ....(How He answers is the proof 😂)
He might just plunge you to Hell for your diabolical taste in movies.
@@lesigh1749 could have been worse. It could have been directed by Kathleen Kennedy 😕
The first thing I would ask is: Who can imprison god in a barrier?
@@HighMojoExactly. Why would he have need of a starship.
Unfortunately, the god of the bible would most likely react exactly like the "god" in this clip - the old testament God would, anyway.
“You’ve not answered his question: What does God need with a starship?”
Ah, the Flintstone Rib Cage
McCoy standing up to God....a true southern man
I though they are famously don't question aynthing comes from the Bible and they are an avid supporter of modern Israel.
Yous guys are blowing me away with these comments!
I liked the idea of this movie because it was a return to the TV series.
I remember a lore that was written that claimed it was cannon. That it was a being that was summoned from the Guardian of Forever by a Q who was bored. Q requested that a being equivalent to a Q may arrive through it. Eventually they became enemies. This being and the Q. This being killed off the Iconians, then the Q couldn't destroy it so they imprisoned it here. Anyone else hear or read the same?
It's not cannon. Gene Roddenberry said it wasn't.
@@jeffhyche9839 I believe story about the Q imprisoning that entity, came out after Gene got beamed up.
So, I doubt he was here to dispute it.
"canon"
@@platinumfalconm3891 I believe it was post Gene so ya.
canon. not “cannon”.
Clearly a powerful yet imprisoned alien.
Better question is "What does God need money for?".
❤kirk😂😂
"um, excuse me"☝️
Kirk would never surrender the Starship Enterprise to anyone, even a “god”.
The bottomless pit, a place that an angel to man after 1000 years.
Man this movie was such a fantastic take down of religion. "What does god need with a star ship" Why does God need man to do his works for him? An all powerful being needs your money to enact his will? Yeah tell me another one. Then the immediate and violent retribution for daring to ask a question is something you see everywhere in the old testament. Then, the cherry on top, when he takes the form of Sybok. Every believer thinks that God, purely by coincidence, hates everything and everyone they hate and forgives everyone and everything they forgive believes and supports everything they believe and support. Almost as if God is just them but with the power to enforce their will onto everyone around them. ;)
When does zordon start handing out power coins and cool spandex suits for cool dabbing poses?
The twist is this is precisely who the god of Abraham is. In the "old testament" it quite clearly states that god can be/is cruel, petty, manipulative and jealous. Only the ignorant believe the preachers and priests sermons about love and empathy. The Lord of the Elohim, the "most high's" ego demands praise and subjugation.
OMG! That last moment between Spock and his Brother were just to awesome, and right after: I couldn´t help but notice your pain...
"Kirk to Enterprise, listen carefully....", with no hesitation.
I want that guy as captain of my starship.
Even though I agree that this was by far the worst of the first six movies, I still liked it.
Yeah, it's a little like watching the old tv series: there were some good ones and some real stinkers, but we made damn sure we watched 'em all 👌
And still more Star Trek than any of the Next Gen movie.
We had to they only made so many
A classic example of the wrong way to search for God. Kirk in the end said it best how God can truly be found in the human heart.
A hollyweird writer wrote that.
Don't get your theology from diddy party goers.
Actually thought this god was actually a Q imprisoned
These guys need a Q.
👌 Something like that.
Most underrated Star Trek film ever made.
A GREAT MOVIE; like an extra-long classic episode, to me, its perfect 🥰 💞
Can anybody remeber when we were explorers this was not a bad movie it made you think, question and taught people to be skeptical
This movie gets a bad rap - shatner got robbed in the budget and the final edit - but it’s a good story.
The scene where Kirk Spock and McCoy are forced to confront their worst painful memories is beautiful .
1. clearly an odd numbered Star Trek, they were bad.
2. photon torpedoes are NUKES, there is no "dive for cover".
This is the movie where William Shatner got tinnitus from an explosion effect.
To be fair, a photon torpedo is supposed to be, like, an order of magnitude or seven more powerful than a thermonuclear fusion bomb...and they only jumped a few feet behind a rock.
I mean, they blow up Death Stars with those thi..oh. That's the other one..
In retrospect……it wasn’t so bad……it’s a cool story….
This movie is way better than people make it out to be.
I always loved the begining with the cliff and the Camping sceens!
Fun Fact even Nintendo wanted to do a Star Trek V video game on NES. Then you see how fast everyone pulled away from Star Trek V
Chekhov's torpedo shot. Um. Aren't photon torpedoes antimatter explosives with a multi-megaton warhead ? Ducking behind some rocks wouldn't really be enough to save you. About 25km would be far enough away, I think.
What if they were beamed up , shoot the torpedo. Went to warp 8 Would it have been safer? @ DrOneOneOne.
That explosion was about the size of a very small bomb.
Maybe the firepower is very concentrated in a small area. Very powerful and destructive in a very concentrated package, more like a laser than a grenade.
@@iconian1387 Explosions don't work like that. Star trek tends to try sticking to science. But, the TOS Era was probably not so good with that.
@@chriskelso723 "...we have the Holy Hand Grenade.."
If something claiming to be God is in need of a starship or even a pair of sneakers, run the other direction
This is completely irrelevant but I just ate the most amazing orange ever 😋😋
Trump is indeed great tasting.
@@sauvagemusic1844 that came out of left field 🧡🧡🧡🧡
@@sauvagemusic1844 politics again, typical from you
@@Founder6087 I know you, blud?
Also just had an orange. Too much pith. 4/10
This is confirmation of an old adage : good people can pretend to be bad, but bad people cannot even pretend to be good - especially over time. Eventually or even immediately they are tripped up by their own negative traits that they're simply unable to hide.
I loved it 😍 kirk takes no bs whatsoever
4:57 Spock and Kirk look at each other at exactly the same time as it dawns on them... "Waaaaaait a minute..."
I bet q was watching all of this from orbit eating a nice lunch enjoying the show
Sounds like him.
"I'm asking a question...."
😂
Why does "god" need a star ship for?
_Ooh_ {cringe} ... comment ended with inappropriate preposition. Penalty: 6:09
Chicks dig it.
To go star trekkin..duh..😊
2:30: "At that moment, we realized that Phallus 10 was a lot bigger than we thought."
A healthy dose of skepticism that is sadly lacking these days.
If they could breach it , why couldnt he?
This reminded me of the Twilight Zone where the monks had imprisoned Satan , yet Satan convinced a stranger to let him go
a god? Sounded more like an imprisoned fallen angel.
I still like to think that this was a Rogue Q that was imprisoned by the Continuum.
why would gods need cutting edge military equipment?
Hey do I "need" a shark with lasers on its head? Probably not, but I definitely want to ride one.
@@bmresearchIf you claim to be God why not just answer the question.
To do america.
Fake god.
I think my favorite episode of the original Star Trek was The Trouble with Tribbles those fuzzy Little Things😂
you mean ewoks
@@erikricardoboscolo4779 Nope tribbles
@@MartinX192 that is, star trek's ewoks
Love the movie. Love your clip title.
kind of amazing how stupid this "all powerful being" was. Even with a basic human intelligence and all that power it should have been able to make a convincing presentation. May have been powerful, but was pretty stupid.
Yes and God should have provided us with Teflon coated arse holes and saved us a load of hassle
I suppose that entity was made prisoner by a higher race, its wrongdoings were fueled by its narcissistic behavior.
Some people just suck at PowerPoint.
It may have been intelligent but it was blinded by it's arrogance and feeling of superiority. You don't think a squirrel can beat you until it builds a trap in your fridge.
@@arkhaminmate47 Plus it had been trapped there for a very, very long time. When your salvation is finally at hand, sometimes you get a lil eager.
Motion Picture was really not good, Wrath of Khan was excellent, Search for Spock was deep, Voyage Home was fun as hell, Undiscovered Country is second only to Wrath, Final Frontier is just so over-the-top that it doesn't care and I respect it
I also "What does god need with a starship?" goes so hard and I love it
In response to the video title, "Well, there goes my weekend plans." Puts down the dark summoning book.
what does God need with a starship 🤣
We were a Star Trek Family & not so much a Bonanza Family.
Hummm, 23 Century and Kirk is still using a flip phone 🙄
Mostvinvenive episode of Star Trek. Sxplains how the myth of Hods arose. But stop believing and you drain their energy and they die.
Convinced me to be an Atheist.
It's a shame, if only technology advancement was not so slow. We may now have the special effects skills, but our story telling skills have significantly dropped.
I'm not specially talking about this movie, but you can't denied that it is true that the best storylines have already been done.
was expecting some replacement, abstracty type dialogue
Sybok looks a little like a young Jordan Peterson 😄
Fear Factor Rogan, Dr JP, and Old Testament God
On Joe’s show.
What a conversation
Good call
This was the Devil......
Yeah before they rewrote the script because they thought it was out of place
Fallen IN prisoned angel.We are making a gateway right now to let out something with the hadron collider.Stupid move I would say.
Here's a good question: Why Kirk asked the question but not Spock??
My best guess is "because William Shatner directed this movie", but you could maybe argue that Spock had this very same thought but needed more time to formulate a question, while Kirk being more impulsive and emotional blurted it out it in a more brusque, challenging manner.
@@Corellian Yep, I'm pretty sure spock lifted at least one his eyebrow.
It struck me this was the scene Stravinsky “borrowed” for his Vorlon reveal scene.
He did not find God, he found Satan...
That was meant to be the original idea but to do it properly would have been too expensive so they went for godlike energy being instead
@@billmcdermott9647 Interesting.
When the Alien confronted Sybok a few minutes after revealing himself, he showed him Sybok's own face that highlighted his delusions of grandeur.
Reading the comments I’m glad I’m not the only one that thought “why does God need a starship?”
Bones: "You don't ask the almighty for his I.D." Really, Bones? Didn't you meet God-like entities like 20 times in the original series?
It’s the Shelly Cooper god.😂
It wasn't a weapon it was truth
Burnham talked fondly of her brother Sybok
What does God need of a giant movie set rib cage?
Not the voice of God. but the voice of the deceiver.
The point is it's hard for mortals to tell.
Yaldabaoth
It is nearly impossible for mortals to tell. That's what make it such a ridiculous system.
Why dies the divine allow demons to communicate with mortals and pretend they are him?
Your god is as much fantasy as this one.
@@eurisko3676 Yes. What creature would allow genocide and suffering to such a degree as on Earth. One who delights in pain?