The easiest thing that separates the 2 is that the purpose of Waacking is to make sound visible. Moving in perfect sync to the beat to give the sound a visual representation is the goal. Voguing on the other hand has the 5 elements. Hand performance Floor performance Spins and dips Duck walk And cat walk Within vogue are various styles like banjee, mean girl, stunty and so on.
I loved the whole ideals like whacking has a very fast paced movement that is on beat while voguing in hand performance it's all about the control of working every inch of hands and arms to make very flexible moments
Waacking and Voguing actually had similar starts back in the day. Both were started by African American and Latino Queer people and both were kind of considered to be underground dance styles. One of the key differences between the two of them is that Waacking was started in the West Coast in Hollywood emulating the golden era of Hollywood, while Voguing started in the East Coast in NYC first emulating the poses on the cover of Vogue Magazine, then evolving into arm control and tutting, then into the current style of vogue which is Vogue Femme.
and thats only on hand performances, while voguing (vogue femme) has 5 elements and waacking is about groove and feel . both has very different takes on the body and feet, and the whole execution . but all in all i ADORE both of this style and culture ... XOXO
The difference between voguing and whacking lies in the movements of the rest of the body, and can't be seen in a hands performance, since both flows shown can be argued to be different types of voguing, only one exacerbating rolling and the other one exacerbating figures.
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Seems like waacking puts more attention to the beats and musicality. While voguing puts more attention on expression (with hands performance) and technique (with arms control) I'm mainly a voguer, but i adore both style
Different style. Sometimes vogue has a bit of tutting. While vogue has fluidity and you’re more free with arms and hands, tutting is all about precision, geometry, and angles,
@@kingamir3180 Correct.. Whacking is their weird attempt at a rebrand of ballroom culture and vogue.. I really wish they would develop their own things instead of attempted to steal ours..
Waacking seems like more of a fast-paced performance while voguing seems more deliberate (ohh, that's not the word) and utilizes more precise movements of the hands and arms making for a more sensual and expressive performance... They're both pretty expresssive though. I dunno... I'm not a dancer, that's all I got from it. Someone please correct me or add to that, lol. Cheers
@@terrancejovan4825 Oh dang, I honestly wasn't trying to be rude or anything like that.. I think the way I worded it came out wrong. I can't even remember what I was responding to but I was probably just amused and/or confused as to what you meant. My bad! I was genuinely curious what that term meant, though. Anyway Cheers, have a good one buddy
@@bogieee3329 I'd like to see the same performer posted by someone else at the same speed. I really don't think it's humanly possible to move that fast and top that fast. And they're not black which makes this far more difficult. Sorry but it's the truth. We all know who rules dance.
@@bogieee3329 It's "comment" not "commend". Use a spellchecker. Now if you want to be taken seriously shoot a video like this OUTSIDE IN PUBLIC showing people walking around behind the performer. That will be pretty convincing. The problem here is he is moving so much faster than anyone else I've seen. I admit I haven't seen a lot of whacking videos but the ones I've seen were done by very accomplished dancers. And this guy moves twice as fast? One thing that is credible is you're from Taiwan, not China. At least in Taiwan honesty is respected, unlike in China where it was forgotten and cast aside decades ago. Or maybe you're from China living in Taiwan......hopefully not.
@@swilhelm3180 there is a lot of video on my instagram and there’s people around My battle, life performance u can check . Some of them are even faster than this one .And yes I’m from Taiwan .
Wacking is voguing obviously it’s just a name change. Vogue deserves to stand alone because it’s posing to a beat. The category is called beat to beat but it’s still vogue.
not waacking being created before the voguing☠️ you definetly need to search for a history. if you think they are the same, you obviously dont know about waacking and especially voguing either
@@axelle2620 I don't need google to tell me about a culture that I'm apart of and that belongs to my community. I know the history of it! I was there.. Whacking does not exist..
@@terrancejovan4825 you gotta know that waacking is older than voguing. im a vogue dancer, but i have respect to other cultures and learned about their history. They are literally so different. This is so stupid to deny its existence. How come a dancer, whose genre is voguing, where everyone expresses themselves in any way tries to tame others, who are expressing themselves by waacking? You dont deserve to be called a voguer.
There's so little vogue that it's hard to judge! He gave a little hand movement that it! Vogue requires a whole lot more than that, where is the whole body involvement! Since the death of Willi Ninja you really don't see vogue anymore! You don't see mainstream media interested anymore like when Willi was performing who was on Jimmy Kimmel and with Anna Wintour from Vogue Magazine and all over the place because he really captured what Vogue is that was taught to him by the late Hector Valles who died in 1985! I had the pleasure of knowing both! The generation today changed it into freestyle breakdancing and then try to label it Vogue, but it's not! That's why mainstream media interest in it has waned because there's no one to carry it forward not even Javier Ninja! Fantastic performer but he got too much into wacking and that street Subway break dancing!🤷♂️
I mean to be fair. They were mostly doing hand peformances. The hand performances were great in my opinion. You aren't wrong this isn't 100% vogue, but its one of the elements. The hand performances you can tell were more Old Way with spices of Femme within it. We appreciate the history lesson, but if you're gonna give a critique, give a critique. If you are looking for more elements then just say that. This video is more about the difference between the two styles in what they have in common [hand/arm movements.] In my opinion is should the title should Waacking vs Vogue [Hand Performance]. Maybe an explanation within the video to explain the differences between Waacking [Controlled and Cadenced] and Voguing [Fluidity and Dynamics] so people can understand the CORE difference between the COMPARISON.
@@ShardOfFire Don't tell me I'm wrong I was there back there in the mid seventies when it 1st started! You weren't! All the creative ones that are dead if today they were alive and the minute you came on to the floor and the category was "vogue's" and they did that within a second you would have been chopped! The category is VOGUE! NOT BREAKDANCE! OKAY!....Take that to the corner of 42nd & 8th Avenue!.🤨
@@itsokitsok5020 I respect that you were there during the 70s. But the fact you're calling this breakdancing shows that you lack either knowledge of other styles of dance or your being purposely malicious. As I stated before this shows the difference in the hand performances of both styles in order to TEACH those to discern the difference in appearance between them. You are coming from a place of talking down to people instead of educating them. Regardless of your standings in the Ballroom era, you should giving critiques and teaching people. Especially if you're a Mother/Father. If you want the children to learn then teach. If you don't wanna teach, then I'd advise not to criticize if you aren't wanting people to grow and learn from it.
@@ShardOfFire yeah whats interesting about this vogue performance was because of its limited body movements- it almost seemed like the average person could mistake this for tutting instead of voguing
Most of this seems kinda off tbh bc Ballroom is still heavily in mainstream media… FKA TWIGS, Nordstrom, & Beyoncé have used influences from ballroom in the past year alone. Also old “Vogue Performance” was for Butch queens. Todays new Vogue is based off of Femme Queens who invented softer and more feminine ways of Vogue. Femme Queens paved the way for Ballroom to transform into a heavily Vogue femme space in the 80s & 90s. If you watch old balls from the 80s & 90s you’ll see the evolution of Vogue femme. I think overall this was just you flexing knowledge rather than actual understanding. Performance categories have never been choreographed unless it’s performance as a house or for specific purposes. If you’re at a ball and do choreography, you’ll get chopped and it’s typically been like that for like… ever The video shows how versatile hand performance is and it shows how strong whacking is. There’s a very clear difference between the two.
@@bogieee3329 No it isn't.. It's a mess is what it is.. And an attempted rebrand.. Whacking does not exist and I would appreciate if you vultures stopped trying to rebrand ballroom culture and vogue..
The easiest thing that separates the 2 is that the purpose of Waacking is to make sound visible. Moving in perfect sync to the beat to give the sound a visual representation is the goal.
Voguing on the other hand has the 5 elements.
Hand performance
Floor performance
Spins and dips
Duck walk
And cat walk
Within vogue are various styles like banjee, mean girl, stunty and so on.
This was dope thank ya!!
There is also categories within hand performance like: Figure 8, Serving face
This is great thank you!
Going to sleep a little less dumb tonight, thanks to you!
this is very informative. thank you for this!!
I loved the whole ideals like whacking has a very fast paced movement that is on beat while voguing in hand performance it's all about the control of working every inch of hands and arms to make very flexible moments
do u know wacking and voguing is actually hindu traditional dances
@@Hindu9054voguing is not Hindu tradition it's created by lgbtq+, poc's mainly black and latina
Waacking and Voguing actually had similar starts back in the day. Both were started by African American and Latino Queer people and both were kind of considered to be underground dance styles. One of the key differences between the two of them is that Waacking was started in the West Coast in Hollywood emulating the golden era of Hollywood, while Voguing started in the East Coast in NYC first emulating the poses on the cover of Vogue Magazine, then evolving into arm control and tutting, then into the current style of vogue which is Vogue Femme.
please learn that latin dance flamenco is actually indian dance, its accepted worldwide@@jefmarquez2863
something in me stirs and itches and aches to be able to do this. you’re so talented it’s nuts.
and thats only on hand performances, while voguing (vogue femme) has 5 elements and waacking is about groove and feel . both has very different takes on the body and feet, and the whole execution . but all in all i ADORE both of this style and culture ... XOXO
The difference between voguing and whacking lies in the movements of the rest of the body, and can't be seen in a hands performance, since both flows shown can be argued to be different types of voguing, only one exacerbating rolling and the other one exacerbating figures.
Idk. Waacking is soo dynamic. Voguing is so controlled. Which one do I love the most? 🤩
The voguing you see here is only very controlled because he's only doing the hands/arms control aspect of it.
This deserves so much more. I really love it
Love Waacking and Voguing!!!!
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This is what I always tune into Legendary to see and ...just rarely are the performances this clean and precise.
This is soooo amazing !! Loving it
This just made me smile. LOVED it!!
God I wish I could do either of these, they’re both incredible 😭💜
Love the arm movements
I want to learn both! 😍
Ok but I absolutely need a tutorial on that last vogue hand work. I am shooooook 🤩
Thank you for this video it really help!!!
Stunning
這樣看的話真的比較容易區分waacking和voguing啊。我之前一直區分不了這兩個舞種，現在懂了
AMAZING.
Incredible
THIS TRACK WAS CUTE THOOOO
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Seems like waacking puts more attention to the beats and musicality.
While voguing puts more attention on expression (with hands performance) and technique (with arms control)
I'm mainly a voguer, but i adore both style
I really wanna learn waacking it's so intoxicating
mesmerizing
You betta wurk!!
This has far too few views for the level of talent displayed here
Super!!!!!!! The name of the song, please!!!!!!
Please put tutorialssss❤❤❤
CHILLLLEEEEEEEEE
I fucking love queer people, we’re so amazing
Just realize that if everyone was queer there would be no one left on the planet after a while. Not a one. Something to ponder.
I think wacking is stronger when battle with voguing
😍😍😍
Wait so what’s tutting? Does that in someway or form fit into vogue?
Arms control
Voguing wins. imo
is tutting part of voguing or is it a different style altogether?
Different style. Sometimes vogue has a bit of tutting.
While vogue has fluidity and you’re more free with arms and hands, tutting is all about precision, geometry, and angles,
ok good thats what i need to hear rn 👁️👅👁️👍🏻@@cybergalacticnova
What's the song called please?
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE SONG
Yeesssssss
iirc wasn't whacking originally a west coast thing and vogueing east coast?
Whacking isn't a real thing..
@@terrancejovan4825 It is. Stop disrespecting waacking and its history.
@@terrancejovan4825Have u changed your beliefs now? Lol
Where could I find the music that he use on voguing?
Sound of Darbuka by Yasar Akpence
waacking is like shaking around a stick, and voguing is like shaking a stick with a ribbon on it
Huh. It's All Voguing.
This is hand performance.
Но тут же ещё таттинг
Rad
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Yoo
I cant tell whats different
See again
Waacking is about fast, powerful hand and arm movements whereas vogue hand performance is more about precision and control
@@lilsmolcrow hand performance is about telling a story!
@@lilsmolcrow no hand perfomance can be fast also. A lot of people don’t usually do “ fast perfomance “ wacking is the same thing as vouging.
@@kingamir3180 Correct.. Whacking is their weird attempt at a rebrand of ballroom culture and vogue.. I really wish they would develop their own things instead of attempted to steal ours..
And what's the difference....?
Waacking seems like more of a fast-paced performance while voguing seems more deliberate (ohh, that's not the word) and utilizes more precise movements of the hands and arms making for a more sensual and expressive performance... They're both pretty expresssive though. I dunno... I'm not a dancer, that's all I got from it. Someone please correct me or add to that, lol. Cheers
Their is no difference.. It's an attempted rebrand.. It's what these culture vultures do..
@@terrancejovan4825 What are you even talking about?? Culture vultures lmao?
@@MrAdryan1603 I'm not here to play your passive-aggressive games. I said wtf I said.
@@terrancejovan4825 Oh dang, I honestly wasn't trying to be rude or anything like that.. I think the way I worded it came out wrong. I can't even remember what I was responding to but I was probably just amused and/or confused as to what you meant. My bad! I was genuinely curious what that term meant, though. Anyway Cheers, have a good one buddy
How about showing the video in real time, not sped up?
We don’t need to “speed up “
@@bogieee3329 I'd like to see the same performer posted by someone else at the same speed. I really don't think it's humanly possible to move that fast and top that fast. And they're not black which makes this far more difficult. Sorry but it's the truth. We all know who rules dance.
@@swilhelm3180 this is the best commend to me actually! Come to my instagram or fly to Taiwan I can show you 😂
@@bogieee3329 It's "comment" not "commend". Use a spellchecker.
Now if you want to be taken seriously shoot a video like this OUTSIDE IN PUBLIC showing people walking around behind the performer. That will be pretty convincing. The problem here is he is moving so much faster than anyone else I've seen. I admit I haven't seen a lot of whacking videos but the ones I've seen were done by very accomplished dancers. And this guy moves twice as fast? One thing that is credible is you're from Taiwan, not China. At least in Taiwan honesty is respected, unlike in China where it was forgotten and cast aside decades ago. Or maybe you're from China living in Taiwan......hopefully not.
@@swilhelm3180 there is a lot of video on my instagram and there’s people around
My battle, life performance u can check . Some of them are even faster than this one .And yes I’m from Taiwan .
So there is no difference. Thanks.
Wacking is voguing obviously it’s just a name change. Vogue deserves to stand alone because it’s posing to a beat. The category is called beat to beat but it’s still vogue.
They are forever trying to rebrand our culture.. Whacking is not a thing..
not waacking being created before the voguing☠️
you definetly need to search for a history. if you think they are the same, you obviously dont know about waacking and especially voguing either
@@terrancejovan4825 educate yourself, google is available for everyone
@@axelle2620 I don't need google to tell me about a culture that I'm apart of and that belongs to my community. I know the history of it! I was there.. Whacking does not exist..
@@terrancejovan4825 you gotta know that waacking is older than voguing. im a vogue dancer, but i have respect to other cultures and learned about their history. They are literally so different. This is so stupid to deny its existence. How come a dancer, whose genre is voguing, where everyone expresses themselves in any way tries to tame others, who are expressing themselves by waacking? You dont deserve to be called a voguer.
There's so little vogue that it's hard to judge! He gave a little hand movement that it! Vogue requires a whole lot more than that, where is the whole body involvement! Since the death of Willi Ninja you really don't see vogue anymore! You don't see mainstream media interested anymore like when Willi was performing who was on Jimmy Kimmel and with Anna Wintour from Vogue Magazine and all over the place because he really captured what Vogue is that was taught to him by the late Hector Valles who died in 1985! I had the pleasure of knowing both! The generation today changed it into freestyle breakdancing and then try to label it Vogue, but it's not! That's why mainstream media interest in it has waned because there's no one to carry it forward not even Javier Ninja! Fantastic performer but he got too much into wacking and that street Subway break dancing!🤷♂️
I mean to be fair. They were mostly doing hand peformances. The hand performances were great in my opinion. You aren't wrong this isn't 100% vogue, but its one of the elements. The hand performances you can tell were more Old Way with spices of Femme within it.
We appreciate the history lesson, but if you're gonna give a critique, give a critique. If you are looking for more elements then just say that. This video is more about the difference between the two styles in what they have in common [hand/arm movements.]
In my opinion is should the title should Waacking vs Vogue [Hand Performance]. Maybe an explanation within the video to explain the differences between Waacking [Controlled and Cadenced] and Voguing [Fluidity and Dynamics] so people can understand the CORE difference between the COMPARISON.
@@ShardOfFire Don't tell me I'm wrong I was there back there in the mid seventies when it 1st started! You weren't! All the creative ones that are dead if today they were alive and the minute you came on to the floor and the category was "vogue's" and they did that within a second you would have been chopped! The category is VOGUE! NOT BREAKDANCE! OKAY!....Take that to the corner of 42nd & 8th Avenue!.🤨
@@itsokitsok5020 I respect that you were there during the 70s. But the fact you're calling this breakdancing shows that you lack either knowledge of other styles of dance or your being purposely malicious. As I stated before this shows the difference in the hand performances of both styles in order to TEACH those to discern the difference in appearance between them.
You are coming from a place of talking down to people instead of educating them. Regardless of your standings in the Ballroom era, you should giving critiques and teaching people. Especially if you're a Mother/Father. If you want the children to learn then teach. If you don't wanna teach, then I'd advise not to criticize if you aren't wanting people to grow and learn from it.
@@ShardOfFire yeah whats interesting about this vogue performance was because of its limited body movements- it almost seemed like the average person could mistake this for tutting instead of voguing
Most of this seems kinda off tbh bc Ballroom is still heavily in mainstream media… FKA TWIGS, Nordstrom, & Beyoncé have used influences from ballroom in the past year alone. Also old “Vogue Performance” was for Butch queens. Todays new Vogue is based off of Femme Queens who invented softer and more feminine ways of Vogue. Femme Queens paved the way for Ballroom to transform into a heavily Vogue femme space in the 80s & 90s. If you watch old balls from the 80s & 90s you’ll see the evolution of Vogue femme. I think overall this was just you flexing knowledge rather than actual understanding. Performance categories have never been choreographed unless it’s performance as a house or for specific purposes. If you’re at a ball and do choreography, you’ll get chopped and it’s typically been like that for like… ever
The video shows how versatile hand performance is and it shows how strong whacking is. There’s a very clear difference between the two.
That was not voguing
This is hands performance and arms control from voguing
@@bogieee3329 I know
@@sayno2lolzisback ？😂
@@bogieee3329 No it isn't.. It's a mess is what it is.. And an attempted rebrand.. Whacking does not exist and I would appreciate if you vultures stopped trying to rebrand ballroom culture and vogue..