MG4 (Electric) - Cheap & Great Value?
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- The previous MG electric cars have been proven as a great value buy, but what about the new 'ground up' electric car? The MG4!
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I had a ZS on order 7 months but when I found out that this car was available I changed my order without even a test drive. I've received it now and I'm not disappointed
How long did it take from order to delivery
@@my_carp_life3424 after I changed my order two weeks, I'm 66 now and had a few new cars but have never got the one ordered always end up taking what they have in stock
Indicator volume is adjusted as part of the vehicle alerts volume
Done 1000 miles in my MG4 SE LR in the week I’ve had it. Safety systems are dangerous and need turning off. Performance is nice and rapid charging is MEGA! Did 22-80% on Ionity in 23 mins, hitting 142kW for quite a while. Seats are all day comfortable. Efficiency is average at best, 3.5mi/kWh on the motorway at 66mph, across country got 4.
Which of the saftey system are dangerous, lane assist, adaptive cruise control? I am considering the Trophy version of the car due the 360 cam, but if the tech is rubbish or dangerous it'll be a pass for me.
@@TheLinkedList lane keep assist .. you can switch it off.
I am sure it will be rectified by updates.
@@jaz4280 first thing we did with our new ZS Trophy was to turn off the Lane Assist its far too invasive as it was the Mk1 ZS EV we had before so don't hold out much hope that it will improve
Turn off lane keep assist and mute the drowsiness warning and your good to go
Thanks for mentioning the charging speed which they didn’t talk about in the video. This is the only down-side of our Kia e-Niro which we’ve had since March 2019, it was one of the first to come into the country (we live in France) and even form low SOC the best we’ve seen is 75Kw...which it doesn’t maintain for very long. Your efficiency though does seem disappointing given that the car sits lower and looks a lot more ‘slippery’ than the e-Niro. Our winter/summer average over 70,000 km is 14.5 kWh/100 km (4.27 miles/kWh)...yesterday I did 100 km of local driving around the Poitou-Charente...nice empty roads, gently rolling terrain..and got 11.8 kWh/100 km (5.25 m/kWh). A friend of mine here has a 2017 Ioniq regularly get between 8 and 9 /100 km (7 to 8 miles/kWh) and he doesn’t drive like a vicar’’s wife either. It seems that Hyundai/Kia and Tesla are still ahead on efficiency....but I would have loved the charging speed of the MG4 last winter when we did a 2,200 km round trip to Frankfurt...not something we would normally do but grandkids get born at odd times and you have no control of where your kids end up living and working..😊
I test drove one and really liked it.I have an order in for a 50 kWh SE so hopefully get it this year.Compared to my current wheels,a Dacia Stepway Bi Fuel,the MG is a limo. I can get back to overnight charging and free fuel from the solar panels.Also the Autogas is getting very difficult to find in NE Scotland,the oil capital of Europe.Maybe current geo political situation has something to do with it.
It looks good, drives well! It is quite affordable even as long range version! At the moment, the only problem is that the MG4 is only available in a select few European countries!
Great review, though I agree with your comment about the preference of a lighter interior!
Good look and drive - thanks. Also note rear wheel drive, most EVs this size are front wheel drive. Bonnet seems short but this is proof of a ground up EV design. Good safety ratings. Battery cooling is by variable air intake from sharp-look front vents. Juries out on how effective this system is. Entry and start very slick - its on when you get in - no start button. All this shows an advance on previous MG models and their intention of growing EV market share. Now all we need is a national grid which doesn't go dark for 3 hours a day ...
You can adjust the indicator sound in the settings by turning down the volume of the vehicle alerts.
No
It's another safety feature seems all Chinese cars have loud indicators some with hard of hearing can forget to turn them off and that can cause accidents, making them much louder reduces that possibility
Yes, you can turn the indicator volume down. It was one of the first things the dealer showed me - because he watches TH-cam too!
Great looking car, I have an MG ZS EV on order, the only problem is how long they take to come, I ordered mine in March and have been told it maybe January!
Great video Boys! Looking forward to seeing this Bad Boy 'Downunder' next year....maybe?
Enjoyed the review, thanks. I'm surprised you made such a big deal about the interior, I thought it was a step up from the ZS. But I did test drive the Trophy which has the vegan leather seats, perhaps that makes all the difference.
I've ordered the Trophy as I thought it was worth the money for the extras I valued - heated seats, heated steering wheel, 360 birdseye cameras, electrically adjustable driver's seat and those nicer seats. There are even more differences in the spec, but those are the ones that were important for me. Even with the top spec and a metallic paint, it's £4,940 cheaper than the base spec ID.3 and that has none of the creature comforts I want. I think MG are on to a winner with this car.
I’d have to agree 👍
You can add extra safety tech as well for example rear crossing traffic, door opening warning for traffic etc
The only thing I would say is that vw and seat will discount heavy now. MG won't So.that huge price gap will narrow a fair bit.
Key for me with the Trophy is the rear view 360 camera. Don’t think you mentioned that. Have a very tight parking space which I will need to reverse into.
should be legally standard on every car as a safety priority
Have the pre facelift MG5 and will have it for next couple of years yet. Unless something comes along it will be the facelift version next, this one is tempting but as you say I think the MG5 has a bit more about it. Don’t think anyone would regret this brand of car.
I also have an MG5 and am just into my second year. It is a great car.
Selling our ID.3 for a Trophy spec. Ordered it today in Orange and we expect delivery October 21st onwards. Plus we can pocket a massive profit in our ID.3 thanks to the waiting lists on them and price rises since we bought our nearly 2 years ago.
You’re so lucky, I ordered mine just before you and they’ve told 16 to 20 weeks worst scenario 🤔🤔🤔😁
Good entry in the rear!
Great video guys👌
Another honest review from two practical Yorkshire men
Great video, hope you guys get in the X Power soon
Test drove the SR LR and found it a pleasant drive. Agree with all reviews that say road noise a bit intrusive, lack of rear wipe wasn't helpful on showery day and not keen of the shiny piano black parts of interior. Back stepped out once as we came off a roundabout and nearside rear caught a small pot hole, otherwise did not notice it was rear drive. All else was pretty OK. Zip from 35 to 70 was pretty good and car felt good to drive. My wife felt there was too much feedback from road, opposite of the eC4 which was very wallowy. Regen was good in this car with little need to brake, but we had no time to adjust settings though. Overall it was OK test. wife wants to try e2008 again as felt that was quieter but hopefully we will go for the MG4 Trophy as I think the rear view aids essential.
Forgot to say, currently quoted 16 weeks delivery!!
For a lot people range is top thing , less likely to have to have to top up outside your home ( if available) , this may save your a few hundred pounds at least every year and will hold its charge better and price when trading in in say 5 years
I've pulled the trigger and ordered one. My first ev! I want to know how far it'll go on the m1 at 60 mph. I'll have to do a 170 mile trip every month.
Test drove this. Hallelujah - an EV which fits me at 6 foot 4 inch in decent driving position (rack and rake on steering wheel all models). Six foot son comfortable in back without bashing knees, toes or head. A game changer in smaller practical EVs personally plus all the benefits as a really nice ride, good looking car, proper range and cheapest new one out there.
That’s where I went wrong. I’m only 5’11” and couldn’t see the speedo on my test drive. Didn’t even think to adjust the steering wheel 😂
Sorry but 'good looking' should be taken off your list. I have yet to see an MG that I would describe as 'good looking'. Most MG's are 'fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down'. This is simply not fugly.
Just pulled trigger on this one. Really surprised how good it is to drive. The smaller battery is LFP and faster 0-60(just). Nothing a set of seat covers won’t fix. It’s also worth mentioning it has really good driving safety features as standard, V2L and a heat pump as standard. We have a Tesla m3 LR and apart from seats, power and software they share similar plastics. If you want one use auto trader. My local mg said feb/march delivery. I got one 50 miles away and will be here in two weeks also with the limited addition privacy glass which is for first 2000
No heat pump in UK spec.
Yes no heat pump for uk
No heat pump. Please don't spout rubbish
@@MrTipperX there is heat pump for EU market for luxury model confirmed including 11kw AC charger, but looks like again UK market suffer same story with Renault Megane smaller screen etc for uk
I totally agree about it however, my mind was changed (hence my comment) by the sales manager at my MG dealership. I did give him the benefit of the doubt when he said he sold hundred of Kia e-niro’s in his former job and continued to tell me how it was atrocious that they charge £900 for a heat pump in them. Oh well lols
I’ve been waiting for your review of this. Excellent stuff. I’ve actually ordered the ‘cheap’ one because of the LFP battery. Shorter range now but a few years down the line not so much shorter. No one seems to comment on the advantages of LFP but it’s worth researching before buying the Lithium ion one.
So true, 1st year 10% capacity loss with lithium ternary batteries still seems common . ☹
Plus you will always able to utilise the full range since LFP can be fully charged every time, whereas you want to charge a ternary battery only 80% for daily use.
They give 8 Years warranty for both battery, fair enough for me. Here in Germany we have three models, Standard, Comfort and Luxury. I think Luxury is what you mean with Trophy, right?
@@dannypercussionman Probably. LFP hardly degrades and after a few years will match the Lithium Ion battery for range. As for thermal runaway, I feel happier to know that LFP doesn’t want to turn me into a fireball. Also, LFP is easier to recycle and is more environmentally friendly.
The main benefit of LFP is no cobalt
Buy what you can afford, simple as that. MG4EV even with the basic pack, is an affordable package that would suit most folk, driving kids to school, shopping and at the weekends out and about the countryside or seaside depending on where you live.
Great vid. I do like this car and am thinking about it seriously. I dont think that other guys adds anything...other than interruptions.
It's surprising how many more premium cars are now opting for cloth type seats on all but the top of the range models. The leather seats in our old Volvo and the Pleather seats in our MG5 LR do get flipping hot in the summer although, to be fair, The perforated pleather on the MG5 cools quite quickly. Cloth finish would not put me off. I don't know why more manufacturers don't go for light coloured roof lining. As for Lane Keep Assist, I have it off permanently but, but, but, it should really only be used on Motorways and reasonably straight dual carriageways. At any time, I believe that it encourages a lack of awareness.
Do think this would be a good upgrade to a 4 YO Nissan Leaf with one bar missing. Or should I run it into the ground. I'm just fed up with the 3kw charging, and to keeping the battery within 20 - 80 has a realistic range of 60 miles (summer).
Do they all have the 3 pin adaptors, so you can plug in to mow the lawn.
Is the music system any good?
The indicator sound can be lowered on the settings ,which I seen on a video ,you said about the seats ,did your shoulder feel a pushing from the seats I went on test drive really like it but shoulder 😳 most likely didn't have seat right
I have towels on my leatherett MG E5, which I find sweaty. I'd go for cloth next time.
Is there any way you could get hold of a Dacia Spring to test? It sells in France for about 13 grand which makes even this MG4 look expensive.
Lets be honest this is as good as an ID3 but is much better value
No where near as good as an ID3
You get what you pay for and I’ve driven both
@@kbsub 🤣 sure, right.
@@kbsub I've driven both, overall the MG4 is better. The ID3 is finished slightly nicer in places but has wipers wrong way round for UK market and peddles slightly offset. It has to be said though that 1.5 years ago you could get base ID.3 with 58KW battery for 24k, that was great value but now they are way overpriced.
@@carlarrowsmith wipers are fine 15 months and 13k in mine never had a problem but I use RainX
MG4 better lol ?! You mean because it’s cheaper , if they were the same price would the MG be better ?? Nah dream on buddy
@@carlarrowsmith wipers are fine 15 months and 13k in mine never had a problem but I use RainX
MG4 better lol ?! You mean because it’s cheaper , if they were the same price would the MG be better ?? Nah dream on buddy
Does it come with a nice petrol or diesel engine ?
What was regen like? Better than the ZS EV?
“Drunk Pack” 😂
I've seen a couple at the local MG dealers . It does look nice. The issue with all the MG EVs is supply. There are currently no MG EVs on the Motability scheme.
I must admit, the choice and the supply situation with Motability is making me consider leaving the scheme at next renewal. Also upfront payments for cars I would actually want within the scheme are definitely on the rise. I will want an EV with a decent long range and if things don't improve by mid 2023 then I'll be ordering a car outside the scheme for when my contract ends in Jan 24. I'll then keep that car for probably 6 years before changing. I realise that financially I'll be worse off, but for me the compromises on Motability right now ( if they persist) will cause me to leave.
@@thelaserhive3368 The best EV left seems to be the Mokka E, purely by virtue of being just about the last man standing. range is so so but it is what it is. The MG4 would in time be a superb Motability car at a good price. i am however, quite likely to go carless at the end of the year.
@@PassportToPimlico Yes, I think you’re right. I won’t really be thinking hard about it until August next year, but if things have not improved then I will seriously consider leaving the scheme. For me, I’d prefer theMG ZS EV if it ever comes back ( purely because of wheelchair space, range and features).
MG4 has gone onto motability this week end, 6th Nov so looking at one tomorrow.
@@PolyformEdge Good luck.
To be honest I’m really looking forward to buy this car. Please correct me if I’m wrong but it is the best value for miles per £ currently on a market.
In January ? factor in the cost of electricity when the handouts end and also, the free electric at work thing, no boss is going to pay that in January either.
@@markpaul1154 That is why I'm hesitate so far. I would like to know what the electricity final price will look like.
@@s1vy to be honest, if you’re mainly charging at home on a nighttime tariff, you’re still going to be way cheaper than ICE cars
Great review, good looking exterior, cheap cheap interior (put me off) it maybe cheap in terms of cost today for an EV, I think this will date quickly, better to come..I'll hold off a few years on EV
Yes cheap and great value but my insurance quote for the trophy was £250 more than my Peugeot 2020 2008 GT Line which has the same trim levels as the MG.
if i was buying today, this MG is the most attractive EV for my money for me. sure I'd buy a KIA or Hyundai if i had the money but the MG4 fit's my needs on paper.
For the price its a great car esp compared to VW, exterior looks great esp the front end which to me looks better then Tesla model 3 , what's its missing is a sunroof which would make it brighter but for me I do prefer lighter interiors gives it a better class look.
Headlights are different on the Trophy to the SE 😊
Yes better headlights on trophy.
Considered an MG4 but my wife couldn't see the front or rear of the car from the drivers seat. Which would mean 360 camera in the Trophy model, and that's just to much money. For me I took fright at the piano glossy bits inside and more so with the fact that what looks like a window just before the c pillar is actually a shiny piano plastic panel which had scratches on when we test drove it. Saying all that it drove nicely and is a bit of a bargain.
she cant see the front? since when is viewing front important for driving? on what car in last 30 years you can even see the "front"??!!??
tbf the interior looks nicer then id3 which is more expensive. Also doesnt the trophy have better seats? i think they have partial leather.
A dealer in Walsall is offering £400 discount on all version for cars ordered in October.
Is that the one in Darlo?
Good entry in the rear. Funny
A proper Yorkshireman's type of car. And for me who lives in NI too...
Despite the fact that it's not perfect (which the 2nd generation will resolve as with the MG5), execs from VW, Stellantis et all are literally sh****ing in their pants right now.
My local dealer has 2 in the showroom and 1 demonstrator so it looks like supply isn't currently an issue.
MG are the latest market disturber as Skoda/Kia/Hyundai were in the past.
Interesting times ahead...
A proper Yorkshireman's car would be made in Yorkshire.
@@R.-. And it would then cost 50% more than this one!
i know I'm being picky but i would miss heated steering wheel and seats
That comes with the Trophy model.
Damn.. It's looks very nice.
You do get the leatherette seats on the Trophy version though. Still don't think its worth the extra money though.
Currently have a Tesla model 3 on lease. Test drove the long range MG4 and was very impressed. I think it’s a bit nit-picky going on about the cheaper plastics. Can’t justify the extra expense of the Tesla. I’ll miss the insane acceleration but this is no slouch. Ordered the Trophy as buying through the company makes it such a tax efficient deal anyway, and the differences between this and the Tesla for the price are minimal if not superior in favour of the MG IMO. Take one for a spin before considering spending the extra money on something else.
The interior is half the car, hardly nit picking. We said it wasn’t as good compared to other MGs, not a Tesla.
Wait 6 months or so and get the MG4 Triumph Edition then it's Tesla performance 0-62mph in 3.8 seconds, only the performance Model 3 then is faster however the MG4 performance will still be much cheaper that the Tesla standard range Model 3
Decent car for the money. Looks big, though! When I saw the pictures originally it looked Fiesta/Polo sized, but with you standing next to it it looked bigger than a Golf/Focus. Is it really that big?
It's a Focus sized car.
@@ElectricVehicleMan that's a shame, my wife wants a car that will fit in the garage and I have a Fiesta at the moment and like Rick said it looked Fiesta size in the pictures. Will there be an MG3? maybe😊
10:07 what's wrong with the seats?
You can turn the indicators volume down
Is there a difference in the quality of the batteries ie if you buy a 52kw battery car like an mg or a 52 kw vw id4 or a Tesla. Cheers
Yes there is a difference. The smaller mg4 battery has an lfp battery that will last much longer and can by my research be charged to a 100% not like the nmc 20% too 80% crap. Lfp lasts about 4 times longer but are larger batteries thats why you get less kwh but in the same size as the NMC 61 kwh
@@brandurhansen2099 how do I find out what battery I have in my id4 ?
Seems to be a good value package overall. But we really should be seeing 4.0mi/kWh efficiency at the motorway speed limit on mid-sized EVs by now, especially ground-up designs as Kia/Hyundai/Tesla have long shown is possible. Hope to see someone do a video soon showing the full charge curve on both battery sizes, if 20-80% can average well over 100kW on the smaller battery then occasional road trips will be fairly easy.
Ground up Kia’s etc don’t get more than 3.
@@ElectricVehicleMan I know. What on earth did they do to the Ionic 5 and EV 6 to go backwards from the Kona and Niro EVs??
French reviewer of the large battery version managed 10 to 80% in just over 25 minutes(!), with charging rates up to 142kW...
th-cam.com/video/QgIwI1sC9Lc/w-d-xo.html
Is wireless phone connection really any more costly to fit than a couple of cables these days? It might even cost car manufacturers more on the production line to have these sort of differences.
So here’s my issue…… i have a 2021 model 3 dual motor, it was 53k new and this mg4 is £31499 with a lot of the same options and the build quality on the mg is better by far. It has almost the range and I’m sure in the coming year or so it will match the grange of the m3. I actually prefer the mg4 even if it was the same money as the m3. The only advantage of the tesla is the supercharging network but that will be opening to everyone else soon enough. Really impressed with the mg4 and may they go from strength to strength.
Other manufacturers (who, let us not forget, will ALL 'go bust' because of competition from Tezzler ....) were ALWAYS going to develop equally good(in all the areas which matter...) cars for much less money .....!!
It was only ever the 'wide-eyed, naive Fanboi who thought otherwise.....!
Nice city car and run around but I'll stick to my mustang gt taking her for a run is an "event" not just a way to get from a to b. Most of time I walk or cycle so do my bit for environment
Don't you get different material seats in the trophy version?
I believe you do now yes.
A practical car I would like to own.
You can turn the indicator noise down
….he likes a big rear entrance. Don’t we all? I think it’s a smashing car. Well done, M.G.
Citroen vs MG warranty for normal users???
When are you getting your hands on an MG4 Xpower?
Doesn't the Trophy version have leatherette seats etc? Thanks for your channel 🙂
Leatherette...aka vegan leather...aka vinyl!
@@peterf1966 But tougher than leather, cheaper and doesn't fade plus it looks like leather :)
@@talkandplay But cooks your legs in the hot sun! And I mean burns!
@@gregb1599 We don't have that issue in Northern Ireland :)
@@talkandplay Oh yeah so you need the top spec so your legs do not freeze lol
I drove the mg4. Impressed with it. I have an ioniq 5 on order. Tempted to switch. Mg4 not as good but much cheaper and probably deluvered sooner. Mg4 has charge speed and range over the mg5
MG5 has everything else though. Charge speed isn't an issue 340 days of the year, and nor is range.
Hmmm dunno I’ve. Just swapped my 5 for the 4 and it’s better in every way but load carrying capacity
@@dk8435 Kind of important.
Great offer to the EV market.
Undoubtedly good to drive but I think I’d prefer to spend a couple of grand more on a better quality interior and better seats.
... good entry in the rear ...
When are you going to start doing your podcast again ?
At £26k, this one's worth having purely for it being rear-wheel-drive...
Great punch out of corners rather than having the front wheels scrabbling for grip 😎
Until the snow comes....
@@barriewilliams4526 for the 3 days a year when it snows in England, I think we'll be ok.
@@caerphoto and just put it into Snow mode if necessary 😉
I really like the exterior but not the interior. Way too much shiny gloss plastic. So that's how they've kept the price down. It's good to have some value options though. About time Dacia joined in especially as Renault is going electric with the next Megane. Could use that as a base.
Dacia Spring - already available in Europe, but demand is high and they're working on the backlog before committing to a start date for UK.
It's a slightly different proposition, only 27kWh battery, but also only around £16k - or around £10k with the current subsidies available in France.
Test drove the MG4 last week. I was very surprised how good it is. I am test driving a Cupra Born tomorrow but I'm wondering how it'll justify the extra.
Be interesting to hear your thoughts between the two
@@AdrianMcDaid Cupra is nice but the ride is harsh on poor surfaces. I've just come back from the dealer having bought an MG4 SE Long Range. In blue. :)
They are very very similar vehicles but honestly debadged you'd be very hard pressed to tell the difference. That's why I couldn't justify the Cupra, which does look smarter, for £500/month Vs £295/month.
6000 more the seat will have to be very very good
@@Scotracer1987 congrats
The ride height is a low hatchback and door cill's are high and wide, making entry and exit a bit of a strain if you have any mobility issues.
However the ZS EV has much higher ride height and this is a big advantage for some folks.
The black interior of the MG4 gives a claustrophobic feeling, which is shame as the interior space is good given the size of the car, it needs a lighter interior or a pan roof to give more of a feeling of space.
A bit of a throwback to the 1970"s Austin Allegro square ( ish ) steering wheel !.
It's a VW ID3 at a cheaper price and a better interior I guess ?.
I think it will do very well, as long as MG can keep pace with the demand !.
Something that they have REALLY struggled with on the ZS EV facelift models.
Cars ordered in Nov - December of 2021 have all not been delivered yet.
And a wait time quoted as 42 weeks now.
My brother ordered Feb and picked up 2 weeks ago. ZS top spec.
@@ElectricVehicleMan I am a regular watcher of the channel and I remember him ordering it !.
He ordered a Trophy LR Connect if I recall ?.
We both had a Gen1 version at the same time and I must of watched your video of the ZS EV about 20 times at least !.
I placed my order for a LR Trophy early Nov 21 and collected it in mid March 2022.
Most of the issues raised on the Gen1 model have certainly been addressed on the Gen2 as you already know.
He will love it !.
Pretty sure the ZS EV days are numbered, the new platform that the MG4 uses will soon include a new SUV that will kill the ZS EV. Seems about a year away late 2023
@@gregb1599 I think they call it "Progress".
Like when you buy the latest and greatest mobile phone, only to find they have release another model in 12 months time !.
Mr. Apple - I am talking to you 🤣.
@@jeffcartwright7270 True but does not help anyone that just put their hard earned money on the so called updated ZS EV only for it to be completely gone in a years time and a much improved EV only platform to get released. All I am saying is think hard before buying the ZS and if you can be patient.
I can fault the other MGs. I have a new ZS and I find it really uncomfortable. I am 5ft 2" and find the centre consul either rubs my elbow and it is too high for me to lean on. I am slim and find the seat less padded and supportive as the previous version, so I have no support and slide from side to side whilst driving, really causing me back and shoulder pain. The headrest juts forward so I can't sit comfortably. Compared to my 2019 version it isn't comfortable. I could cry with disappointment. Good technology though, however, it is really glitchy. Radio just turns itself off. It keeps welcoming me to 1st Jan 2019. I have a squeal on my wheel when reversing hard right. I have a service required every 500 miles, and the service department just reset it, putting my service further and further back. Seat belt isn't adjustable, cuts into my neck and rubs my nipple. Steering wheel doesn't come in and out, slight adjustment up and down. There is more that I don't like. Not impressed...
Have you tried a decent cushion to make you sit higher up?
Watched many MG4 reviews and most say it’s a far better ride than current MG’s.
If it’s the same as the MG ZS EV, you can “de tune” the indicator noise.
Not found how to do that yet
17:05 man-in--the-back: 'wrap up chit-chat guys, we are closing!'
He was picking up a flag that nearly clouted the car.
So for a family car would you choose this or the ZS?
ZS if you can afford the extra.
I'd go for the standard range MG4, otherwise I'd be looking at other MG models or the Citroen e-C4.
How can you ask the price half way through video.. Price of the MG4 is surely on of its KEY USP... 10K cheaper than the iD3 which has a very poor interior
I own an ID.3 and we are switching to the MG4 purely as the figures make complete sense for us.but the interiors are on par I’d say. The MG does away with stupid haptic buttons though which is a massive plus for me and my wife.
Oh I might add that we paid £26590 for our ID.3 Family spec back in December 2021 so we are in for a very tidy profit indeed.
Im 100 percent with you here. It is its usp. And the reality is its probably for a marginally better interior then the vw.
I don't come for the cars. I come for the banter between two guys having fun.
Free charging at work, come January, the bean counters will have that gone, then its charge at home at full whack price with no government handouts.
I don't like that I have to decide which of my 3 kids that apparently do not need a headrest...
I'd go for the trophy, leather edged seats,all around cameras heated seat and wheel, I would need 360 camera with that rear window but still needs a whipper
Seats are the same.
It doesn't need a rear wiper
@@ElectricVehicleMan seats are much better in the Trophy, better looking, better quality and better to sit in!
Seats are different on trophy it's plastic leather not cloth
@@kamil6024 Not what the MG press guy said. 🤷♂️
No one seems to be talking about this car in comparison with ICE cars price wise. This seems to be comparible with the Ford Focus which according to Ford has an entry level price of £27,600 vs MG4 £26,995. Is this first of the EV's that can now compete with ICE cars on purchase price? This was originally predicted for the late 2020's.
Doesn’t the Trophy get the panoramic glass roof?
Don’t believe so.
@@ElectricVehicleMan that’s a shame. Would justify the extra money. Thank for the review.
Only in China for the moment...
Lifepo 4 battery in the standard range. Non of this 20% to 80% charge crap to look after your battery. Can be fully charged and left no bother can be fully discharged no bother.
Longer charge cycle life by a very good margin safer battery chemistry does not catch fire. I know which battery I am picking. Placed my order already.
LFP is rapidly becoming the ‘go to’ chemistry for EV batteries, cheaper, safer and will outlive the car they are in...but to all intents and purposes it doesn’t matter that much. Our early 2019 Kia e-Niro is NMC and yes, we do use an 80% charging regime, not so much to protect the battery but because that’s all we need. We live in rural France, so everything is a drive, the nearest town, Niort is 55 km, Poitiers and Angouleme 60..but even so a typical week of driving is only 200-250 km, well within the 80% charge on the car, even in winter. We do charge to 100% about once a month but at home, only use rapids on long trips...no detectable range loss after 70,000 km and we’ve done 2 trips back to the UK, 1 to Germany, 1 to Switzerland...and France is a big place. LFP is the way to go but I expect this now ‘old’ Kia’s battery to last a lot longer than any ICE unit.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 you've got to understand one thing I have a leaf 30killowat and this car has short range which forces me to charge it to 100% everyday for my job in 6years and 70000 miles I have lost 20% of my battery so that is why I am going with Lifepo4 battery. I will keep it at a 100% all the time and won't hopefully get the degradation I have had on the leaf. Plus the range is about right and I save money. A Kia e Nero would be out of my price bracket. I also need a car that can tow which the MG can. Lastly I tend to keep my cars longer than others the only reason I am getting rid of the leaf is the range issue or I would keep it for another 6 years.
@@gregorygreg4263 It is thanks to early adopters like you that we have EVs at all. Nissan did the best they could with the Leaf and the battery technology at the time but even without an active BMS there are some with a few hundred thousand miles on and still going. I also tend to keep cars for a long time and being now retired the e-Niro may be my last...Enjoy the MG!
Had mg zs ev first gen got rid 8 months later brilliant in summer very poor in winter months now back on diesel 🤭
I'm waiting to see the reviews of the Extended Range version 77Kwhr. That could be a genuine 300 mile car if you don't razz it.
0:56 It's a good looking car, no doubt about that. But Aventador-esque? I think that's stretching it a bit too far 😆
There are angles that are similar.
Any more podcasts coming?
We're struggling to get together enough to record them. I'd love to but at the moment we're struggling.
Why are we going backwards in EV spec? Our 64 Leaf has heated seats and steering wheel. Having a Tesla and a Leaf in the household I would say heated seats are a must in an EV as the heaters are not so good as a ICE vehicle.
Just looked online the Trophy spec is what you need for a good spec; £31.5k. Think I would prefer to put that amount into a id3
Looks good - but the fly in ointment (and it's a BIG ONE) is this:- If our lives and critical infrastructure in the west increasingly come to rely on and be dependent on Chinese technological wonders such as this then we will possibly (no, likely!) to be in the same beholden position that Germany and other countries found to their cost re with Russia and energy st some point in near future. China is playing the long game with it's ambition for world hegemony ---and it's winning. Low priced temptations such as this help it achieve it's ultimate goal - even in a small and seemingly innocuous way. I don't blame anyone who choses it - the pricepoint is remarkable, but we need protective response from our governments on such goods. Massive tariifs and robust assurances are required on such imports.
Big rear entrance 🙈🙈🙈
The internal space in the MG4 is significantly more than the Pug/Corsa. Those two will be discounted, so are likely to be priced very competitively, but are just not comparative size-wise.
And, whereas folk are waiting eight months and more for the Vauxhall, MG are delivering cars right now - though admittedly for people who got in quick.
Agreed, you can't really compare the B segment Stellantis cars with the MG4. The Citroën EC4 is the better comparison and that is £5,000 more than the MG4 with the same size 50kWh battery (and you can't get a bigger battery in the EC4).
If you're quick, you can pick up one of these on Autotrader from a dealer for quick delivery or quite a few Peugeot dealers seem to have 'pre-registered' e208s in stock for immediate delivery.
I enjoy your previous reviews and I own an MG5 and now an MG4. I'm selling my MG5 because the MG4 is far superior, so i will have the MG4 Trophy model and soon an MG4 SE model.
I think you concentrate on the price too much and expect it to be cheap. The interior is far nicer than the new Nissan Leaf and ID3... not sure on others I haven't seen them.
So ye, I think even at 5-10k more this would still be a good car. So at this price it's an amazing car, to say the MG5 is better seems a bit odd.
More practical and better interior. It’s where all my time is spent. The MG5 facelift remember.
@@ElectricVehicleMan for me the facelift is too similar to the current one and looks dated still. Also inside the MG4 has more room due to the longer wheel base, and if you spend a lot of time in a car you also want it to have confortable legroom and drive nicely. Boot is smaller on the MG4 but inside where you sit is slightly more room. Also I believe yhe MG5 charges faster.... of and cheaper.
Has to be go for range!!!!
If you have solar panels and you plan to use the VTL a lot then the £2,500 for the long range is a bargain . Your getting 13kwh of solar storage for £2,500 !. Not forgetting of course the 7 year MG warranty . The competition is in trouble.