Kia has already released the Forte GT here in Korea. It comes with a sedan or hatch styling. It has the 1.6 T and the rear independent suspension. It looks REALLY cool!
It looks nowhere near as good as the euro Proceed shooting brake... newatlas.com/kia-proceed-debut/56332/ Now THAT's the car we should get. Anyway, I doubt the Forte5 will take the form of the K3 GT since it's not really a "normal" hatch
Speaking about repeat buyers....Traded in our 2000 Camry with 135,000 miles with so many small issues for a CPO 2011 Optima LX and now we're on our third! 2012 EX Premium and 2017 SXL and loving them!
This car is ALMOST perfect. Even though ACC is only available on the 2nd most expensive trim (EX Premium at 26k) which is debatable, it is not stop and go and it works only above 30km/h. At that point, it's just useless since trafic moves between 0 and 10km/h in rush hour in Montreal... The base manual trim is incredible. Just so you know, I lease the previous gen base trim and I have no AC, no heated seats, no heated leather steering wheel, no remote key, no backup camera, no 8inch screen with android and apple... basically nothing and FOR (almost) THE SAME PRICE AS THE NEW ONE!! Talk about mind boggling value! Great review as always Sweet and Sour! Feel free to come back in our beautiful province as much as you like!
That chain driven cvt is very interesting. Once i tried a good cvt, i can see the benefits of having smooth, shiftless acceleration (Daily driving, not hard acceleration, and fuel economy. I’d rock one.
Push Button Start to me is such a small convenience unless it comes with keyless access. But it’s no way a deal breaker over other main options. I’d much rather have a great car with turn key then a ok car with Push button start. They say once you have heated seats you can’t go backwards and my car now is the first with out heated seats and I really thought I would miss them but I remote start for just a couple minutes and the cabin is plenty warm. I remember always having to turn the seats off because after a few minutes they would make me so uncomfortable even on low. I’ll even take my Android Auto over push button start. I can start my car using a app or my remote.
I'm looking at the Kia Forte because it's still available with a standard transmission. It's becoming depressingly rare but I prefer it to automatic. Fun to drive and a great deterrent to car thieves!
I bought a 2018 Kia Forte and the car still blows me away. Styling, convenience, and performance. Yes, I said performance. With the automatic shift modes (eco, normal, sport) and can drive gas sipping 5.8L/100km or have the engine rev high in sport if the music strikes me. Heated seats and steering wheel, apple car play, and perfect suspension, not too soft or too rigid. If this car lasts, I'll be back in 7 years for another.
Great review. Push button/keyless start is one of those features - that once you have it, you can't give it up. However, having to go to the top trim level to get that @ $28K is a strategic packaging/pricing error on KIA's part.
Have you had a car with keyless start? My last 4 vehicles have had them and I can’t go back. I’m keyless for house, car etc. No jingling keychains. So liberating. I also have an Acura without it and it drives me nuts. I could take it leave an electric parking brake but it’s nice if you use brake hold in traffic.
@@EverydayReviews2022 I have not had a car with keyless ignition before. I have driven in few. I would not say it was exactly life changing for me. I am usually not with the majority of people on a lot of things though. I like physical things and less tech. But I can see your point. It's a nice easy convenience to not spend time fiddling with keys.
I bought a 2019 Forte LSX. I rented/test drive the Hyundai Elantra, Toyota Corolla, Nissan Sentra over a 3 month period (was renting cars by the week due to travel) and this blows them out the water at a lower price point. You get all the tech, pleather wrapped interior (vs hard plastic) and alloy rims for less than all other brands with nothing. I said I would never buy a Kia. The one thing that sold me on Kia was a 2 week trip to Iceland. I drove the whole ring road both on pavement and off road in a Kia Sportage and had no problems. The trip turned me on to their lane keep assist which is way better than the other brands I have tried.
Agree that the design is very good - BUT - placing the rear tail/brake lights so low was a big mistake. I would think they will be prone to clipping in parking lots (expensive repair) and perhaps less visible to following cars.
Really? My last year model (Cerato) seems to drink more on highway speed of 110kph. 7.8L/100kms (highway) versus 6.9L/100kms on mixed driving. What gives?
Real question is how good is their CVT? Most of the cars I've been looking at have terrible long-term lifespans because the CVT is too expensive to replace, most mechanics refuse to repair CVTs as well.
I bought a base model 2019 Kia Forte in April. There is one flaw that is not appreciated. The inside windshield builds-up a film that Windex, Armour-All glass cleaner will not touch. They will just smear the film across the windshield. I had to go to the dealership and have them clean it. They used Finish Line glass cleaner, that did a marvelous job. They gave me a free can of Finish Line glass cleaner. I had to get rid of that maddening film this last weekend. I am 63 years old and have never experienced a film on my windshield like this. This was the 3rd time I had the film cleaned since I bought it new this April.
I have a 2020 base model Kia Forte fe with a manual transmission. If ever a film developes on the inside windshield, what do you suppose could be the cause? What did they say was the cause of the film build up in your windshield?? 🤔
My 2016 Forte had lots of issues. Paint chipped off in the strangest places (the top of the hood and trunk.) The rear window rattled a lot on cold days, the car pulled to one side on most roads, the front tires kept getting sidewall bubbles and the transmission developed a slow leak and my warranty claim was denied on each instance. They said the paint was not a defect, rather it was an 'effect' of my driving style. The rear window rattle was 'normal' for a car in that price point. The car pulling to one side was 'road crown' again..normal. The sidewall bubbles was the fault of the road. The transmission leak was 'sweating' and was told to 'keep an eye on it'. Had to get rid of it after a year because it just kept getting worse and worse. Got a Subaru and not one single issue.
With the advent of the new ICVT (iVt?), I think they'll be rolling that out to the rest of their offerings to get better gas mileage, which Kia needs to improve on to be more competitive. Forte tends to be, imho, the first platform to get a new system to experiment to see how it works out. Can't wait till this rolls out to the Optima and Soul lineup. I don't think it wouod be offered on the Stinger or K900 however. Current owner of a 2012 Kia Optima Hybrid and love it.
Unfortunately I've been spoiled by, and come to love, the feature content of our Kia Niro Hybrid Touring. I do LOVE the looks of this new Forte and the upcoming 2020 Forte 5 Door, or Hatchback if you wish, is absolutely stunning. However, even in top trim the Forte is missing Fog Lights, although curiously, you can see the circles in the front fascia where they should go. Additionally it's missing Automatic Folding & Tilt Down Exterior Mirrors along with the wonderful Memory Seats for the Driver. The 115 Volt electrical outlet in the rear of the centre console is also missing, as well as no front or rear parking sensors. All of this stuff is standard in the Niro Hybrid Touring, along with every other tech feature available in the Forte. In spite of stellar fuel economy numbers this new 2.0 liter engine has DITCHED Direct Injection with all it's potential "valve carbon fouling issues" and expensive cleaning processes. Yeah! And kudos to the Atkinson Cycle for it's efficiency. Remarkably, this Forte achieves Hwy Fuel Economy virtually identical to our Niro Hybrid (5.9 versus 5.8) which is stunning. Granted, the Niro does deliver superior City economy because it's not even running half of the time. And this new 2.0 liter Forte Engine is incredibly smooth. I found it to be inaudible at idle. With such stunning refinement and 147 hp, me wonders why this engine was not used in the Niro Hybrid instead of the more raucous 1.6 liter with it's paltry 104 hp. Combine this 2.0 liter with the torque available from the electric motor and performance would be compelling. My greatest HOPE is that the forthcoming Forte 5 will eventually be offered here as a Hybrid, (it's already been shown in Korea) with ALL of the amenities which currently come in the Niro Hybrid Touring that have spoiled my wife and I. Sadly, I believe the Forte 5 will likely arrive with the Corporate 1.6 litre turbo engine as a performance upgrade. I want nothing to do with a Turbo Direct Injected engine and all it's complicated hardware. Although I'm no huge fan of Toyota, I must applaud them for making their Hybrid Versions of the Camry and RAV4 the most potent versions of those vehicles available, thus making them more compelling. Time will tell what other treasures and surprises Kia has up it's sleeve!
depends on what you’re looking for, forte is a compact economy sedan so you’re looking at a small car with outstanding gas mileage, the optima (now k5) is kia’s mid size that’s going to give you more luxury but also take away from your gas mileage, then the accord is another great option but that is from Honda. Look at some of those factors and decide upon yourself. I still drive a Kia Forte today from 2012, bought it brand new and now it has 245k miles and is problem free!
@@joelnation4380 nice to know Kia is great.. but now I am thinking of Hyundai sonata too , what would you suggest Kia Optima or Hyundai sonata ! Thanks for the reply
@@Reddylion well the Hyundai Sonata and Kia Optima (k5) are actually the same vehicles. They share the same frame, engine, and inter-workings, the only difference is whether you’re looking for something with just a little more luxury, in which I’d recommend the sonata, or something that’s a little more sportier, in which I’d recommend the optima. But all in all they’re both basically the same vehicles and will go hand in hand when it comes to the reliability of their components.
@@joelnation4380 ya true, I am confused between luxury and sporty, I may choose comfort Hyundai sonata if I get a good deal anyway there is still lots of time for it. There are more Hyundai sonatas for sale than Optima k5 specific colour etc...
I got 44 mpg going about 70 on the highway for a 55 mile trip. On the way back I put it in sport mode I got 38 mpg but a much more fun ride. I get about 30 city, but I have so many lights by me
My purchase decision is based on cars that can do 300,000km+ of hard driving. Which is why my last 5 cars (bought brand new) were Honda or Toyota. However, this Forte GT looks interesting. If the Koreans were able to drop in one of those 7.5K redline engine (like 2.0l in Miata) into the GT, it'd be equivalent to dropping a canon ball onto the Civic brand.
The styling of this Kia Forte is so much better than the Honda Civic and these reviewers are raving about the Forte's CVT - nobody's raving about the Civic's CVT. Huum - The Civic's Turbo will be a problem with age whereas the Forte is a conventional engine. Just one negative - they rave about a keyless start - if this has a problem and it's out of warrantee - you'll need to float a loan with your banker. Keyless ignition has no benefits to the consumer but plenty of liabilities.
@@NinoNlkkl I got a 2006 Civic that has zero engine issues. Only issue with Honda is they are boring. The Camry looks great but the interior is not to my liking. I really like the interior of the Kia from what i have seen though.
@@jagsfanrick , yes I did. So why comment on the reliability of a used car when we are comparing new cars? Its like saying that Hyundai cars back in the 80's are cheap but "terrible", so I wouldn't buy Hyundai car in 2019!
@invidinvasion F*&K U, we are all entitled to our own opinions, you are not God, you don't know everything and everything you believe does not have to be true! Now F&*K off and mind your own business! lol
We didnt buy the Carola because it doesnt have Android auto only apple car play. Not because we had to have it but because the infotainment console would be useless without apple.
Lol the reviewers shit on Québécois for buying the base model......it’s a car. Still gets you from point A to point B and less bells and whistles means less shit than can break and less money spent on repairs. The CVT being a prime example. Quebecois are more Euro in their approach to these sorts of things, they seem to prefer smaller, more efficient, simpler cars with manual transmissions. The rest of Canada seems to emulate the US (and I say this as an American). They want their cars big and ridiculous, with a bunch of unnecessary stupid shit. What need does a push button start or even heating steering wheel provide? You can turn the key and keep your gloves on until the car heats up. And don’t get me started on the lane departure warning stuff. How about YOU PAY ATTENTION AND FUCKING DRIVE. All this extra crap is nothing more than a way for automakers to justify jacking up the price, not to mention adding new shit to break (and thus repair). All the while making drivers less engaged and basically asleep at the wheel. Smh
Your head says "Does it compete with Civic or Corolla" there is nothing on here addressing that question and because I'm looking for one of those for my niece I just wasted 10 minutes on this video
The Japanese Yaris has a two speed with the CVT.. works way different from the Corolla.. missed opportunity the Corolla should a gotten that Transmission
If design right.. in real world driving u don't even need a start gear in a CVT.. most people wouldn't even notice .. besides what's the point.. at least in the JDM Yaris it's CVT has high range and CVT low range not just for starting off 🙄
@@thundergato84 Honda's 😂😂😂 they been trying to perfect their shitty CVT's for years.. darn things are junk maybe new to u in the States or Canada but i have seen the trail of parts and broken hearts they have left behind.. so now they're selling those things in North America.. no thank u... hey just wait a few year and we'll see once they get a few miles on them.. maybe they finally got it right i would rather roll the dice 🎲 with a Nissan CVT vs Honda
@@thundergato84 Subaru started some of the Early mass produced CVT's in the JUSTY.. they weren't bad little car.. Drove the JDM Yaris and it's CVT actually pretty good 👍🏾, My Dad's 2007 Nissan Bluebird Sylphy as a CVT, still going strong so as the ROGUE'S , Honda just don't trust 🧐.. not yet anyways too much years of shady issue that got swept under the rug
wrong..i grabbed the base model...why!!,,,i keep my cars a long time and i dont trust automatic gearboxes...some of the fancy features i miss out on are just things that will crap themselves later...only thing i miss is satnav built in
Kia does make good cars but the dealer network in the States is hideous. Hyundai is probably just as bad. Probably explains why the Stinger sales numbers are so laughable. Unless you have an inside contact with a Kia / Hyundai dealership or know of a good broker you may want to avoid the hassle with those brands.
these cvt transmission with fake gears are just stupid. the whole point of cvts is to get better fuel economy. now you lose the benefit of better mpg but still have to deal with the likelihood of worse reliability long-term.
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The real question is.. Can civic and corolla compete with the Forte?
Hmm
I love my 2010 KIA Forte...KIA will be my top of my list when looking for a new vehicle..
@uh huh how many miles you got on it? Ant problems?
Got 03 Kia spectra with 204000 miles runs great
Picked up my 2020 Forte LXS two days ago, love it so far. Very good car for the price.
It's a great car. Fuel efficient, fun and stylish
I just got one last week and I love it.
Had a 2015 Optima, traded it in for a 19 forte for better gas mileage. Loved both cars, love the brand, and will stay with them
Kia has already released the Forte GT here in Korea. It comes with a sedan or hatch styling. It has the 1.6 T and the rear independent suspension. It looks REALLY cool!
wow , can you share the site . please
ampiciline....www.kia.com/kr/vehicles/k3-gt/features.html I don't know if you can read Korean, but here it is!
looks good.
It looks nowhere near as good as the euro Proceed shooting brake... newatlas.com/kia-proceed-debut/56332/ Now THAT's the car we should get. Anyway, I doubt the Forte5 will take the form of the K3 GT since it's not really a "normal" hatch
is this a dual clutch like the Hyundai i30 or auto?
Speaking about repeat buyers....Traded in our 2000 Camry with 135,000 miles with so many small issues for a CPO 2011 Optima LX and now we're on our third! 2012 EX Premium and 2017 SXL and loving them!
In the US, cooled seats replace the heated steering wheel. I really like that this has class-leading trunk space. Same trunk size as a Toyota Camry.
This car is ALMOST perfect. Even though ACC is only available on the 2nd most expensive trim (EX Premium at 26k) which is debatable, it is not stop and go and it works only above 30km/h. At that point, it's just useless since trafic moves between 0 and 10km/h in rush hour in Montreal... The base manual trim is incredible. Just so you know, I lease the previous gen base trim and I have no AC, no heated seats, no heated leather steering wheel, no remote key, no backup camera, no 8inch screen with android and apple... basically nothing and FOR (almost) THE SAME PRICE AS THE NEW ONE!! Talk about mind boggling value! Great review as always Sweet and Sour! Feel free to come back in our beautiful province as much as you like!
We always love coming to Quebec. Truly a beautiful province. Next time hopefully it won't be raining :)
That chain driven cvt is very interesting. Once i tried a good cvt, i can see the benefits of having smooth, shiftless acceleration (Daily driving, not hard acceleration, and fuel economy. I’d rock one.
Chris Sorreda I drive a 2017 Accord Sport with the CVT and I’m fine with it. My commute to work is only 3 miles.
It won’t only compete, I think it will surpass both of them!
No! Zach
The Hyundai Sonata was the first car with Apple Carplay & Android Auto back in 2015.
That was before any car manufacturers .
CAM AUTO aren’t Hyundai and kia the same company?
@@rjkinney619 they're sister companies so... i guess? kinda sorta. i'm retarded
He said ''one of the first''....
bought a 2018 forte love it
The auto seems to hold onto a gear a touch too long.
What do you think?
Any major problems yet?
Push Button Start to me is such a small convenience unless it comes with keyless access. But it’s no way a deal breaker over other main options. I’d much rather have a great car with turn key then a ok car with Push button start. They say once you have heated seats you can’t go backwards and my car now is the first with out heated seats and I really thought I would miss them but I remote start for just a couple minutes and the cabin is plenty warm. I remember always having to turn the seats off because after a few minutes they would make me so uncomfortable even on low. I’ll even take my Android Auto over push button start. I can start my car using a app or my remote.
Got myself a used 2017 Kia forte, I can't go back to automatic. Traffic sucks in LA but enjoying learning manual
I'm looking at the Kia Forte because it's still available with a standard transmission. It's becoming depressingly rare but I prefer it to automatic. Fun to drive and a great deterrent to car thieves!
I bought a 2018 Kia Forte and the car still blows me away. Styling, convenience, and performance. Yes, I said performance. With the automatic shift modes (eco, normal, sport) and can drive gas sipping 5.8L/100km or have the engine rev high in sport if the music strikes me. Heated seats and steering wheel, apple car play, and perfect suspension, not too soft or too rigid. If this car lasts, I'll be back in 7 years for another.
How do you manage 5.8?
Mixed driving gives me 6.9L/100kms.
Great review. Push button/keyless start is one of those features - that once you have it, you can't give it up. However, having to go to the top trim level to get that @ $28K is a strategic packaging/pricing error on KIA's part.
It's available on the 26k one. The top trim only gets you a premium sound system, built in nav (useless) and vented seats
don't understand the love for push button start. I still appreciate the key in ignition, and also a physical parking break.
Have you had a car with keyless start? My last 4 vehicles have had them and I can’t go back. I’m keyless for house, car etc. No jingling keychains. So liberating. I also have an Acura without it and it drives me nuts. I could take it leave an electric parking brake but it’s nice if you use brake hold in traffic.
@@EverydayReviews2022 I have not had a car with keyless ignition before. I have driven in few. I would not say it was exactly life changing for me. I am usually not with the majority of people on a lot of things though. I like physical things and less tech. But I can see your point. It's a nice easy convenience to not spend time fiddling with keys.
I bought a 2019 Forte LSX. I rented/test drive the Hyundai Elantra, Toyota Corolla, Nissan Sentra over a 3 month period (was renting cars by the week due to travel) and this blows them out the water at a lower price point. You get all the tech, pleather wrapped interior (vs hard plastic) and alloy rims for less than all other brands with nothing. I said I would never buy a Kia. The one thing that sold me on Kia was a 2 week trip to Iceland. I drove the whole ring road both on pavement and off road in a Kia Sportage and had no problems. The trip turned me on to their lane keep assist which is way better than the other brands I have tried.
Agree that the design is very good - BUT - placing the rear tail/brake lights so low was a big mistake. I would think they will be prone to clipping in parking lots (expensive repair) and perhaps less visible to following cars.
Renting this car right now for a month, about 2 weeks in. No complaints. Highway mileage average over 15 miles today was 55mpg. Amazing if true.
lol so everything you said was a lie?
Really?
My last year model (Cerato) seems to drink more on highway speed of 110kph.
7.8L/100kms (highway) versus 6.9L/100kms on mixed driving.
What gives?
Real question is how good is their CVT? Most of the cars I've been looking at have terrible long-term lifespans because the CVT is too expensive to replace, most mechanics refuse to repair CVTs as well.
I love my 2018 Forte base with manual transmission. I bought this to learn how to drive a manual. Solid car with lots of values.
I bought a base model 2019 Kia Forte in April.
There is one flaw that is not appreciated.
The inside windshield builds-up a film that Windex, Armour-All glass cleaner will not touch. They will just smear the film across the windshield. I had to go to the dealership and have them clean it. They used Finish Line glass cleaner, that did a marvelous job. They gave me a free can of Finish Line glass cleaner.
I had to get rid of that maddening film this last weekend.
I am 63 years old and have never experienced a film on my windshield like this.
This was the 3rd time I had the film cleaned since I bought it new this April.
I have a 2020 base model Kia Forte fe with a manual transmission. If ever a film developes on the inside windshield, what do you suppose could be the cause? What did they say was the cause of the film build up in your windshield?? 🤔
My 2016 Forte had lots of issues. Paint chipped off in the strangest places (the top of the hood and trunk.) The rear window rattled a lot on cold days, the car pulled to one side on most roads, the front tires kept getting sidewall bubbles and the transmission developed a slow leak and my warranty claim was denied on each instance. They said the paint was not a defect, rather it was an 'effect' of my driving style. The rear window rattle was 'normal' for a car in that price point. The car pulling to one side was 'road crown' again..normal. The sidewall bubbles was the fault of the road. The transmission leak was 'sweating' and was told to 'keep an eye on it'. Had to get rid of it after a year because it just kept getting worse and worse. Got a Subaru and not one single issue.
mac daddy Well this is not good to hear
With the advent of the new ICVT (iVt?), I think they'll be rolling that out to the rest of their offerings to get better gas mileage, which Kia needs to improve on to be more competitive. Forte tends to be, imho, the first platform to get a new system to experiment to see how it works out. Can't wait till this rolls out to the Optima and Soul lineup. I don't think it wouod be offered on the Stinger or K900 however. Current owner of a 2012 Kia Optima Hybrid and love it.
Unfortunately I've been spoiled by, and come to love, the feature content of our Kia Niro Hybrid Touring.
I do LOVE the looks of this new Forte and the upcoming 2020 Forte 5 Door, or Hatchback if you wish, is absolutely stunning. However, even in top trim the Forte is missing Fog Lights, although curiously, you can see the circles in the front fascia where they should go. Additionally it's missing Automatic Folding & Tilt Down Exterior Mirrors along with the wonderful Memory Seats for the Driver. The 115 Volt electrical outlet in the rear of the centre console is also missing, as well as no front or rear parking sensors. All of this stuff is standard in the Niro Hybrid Touring, along with every other tech feature available in the Forte.
In spite of stellar fuel economy numbers this new 2.0 liter engine has DITCHED Direct Injection with all it's potential "valve carbon fouling issues" and expensive cleaning processes. Yeah! And kudos to the Atkinson Cycle for it's efficiency. Remarkably, this Forte achieves Hwy Fuel Economy virtually identical to our Niro Hybrid (5.9 versus 5.8) which is stunning. Granted, the Niro does deliver superior City economy because it's not even running half of the time. And this new 2.0 liter Forte Engine is incredibly smooth. I found it to be inaudible at idle. With such stunning refinement and 147 hp, me wonders why this engine was not used in the Niro Hybrid instead of the more raucous 1.6 liter with it's paltry 104 hp. Combine this 2.0 liter with the torque available from the electric motor and performance would be compelling.
My greatest HOPE is that the forthcoming Forte 5 will eventually be offered here as a Hybrid, (it's already been shown in Korea) with ALL of the amenities which currently come in the Niro Hybrid Touring that have spoiled my wife and I. Sadly, I believe the Forte 5 will likely arrive with the Corporate 1.6 litre turbo engine as a performance upgrade. I want nothing to do with a Turbo Direct Injected engine and all it's complicated hardware. Although I'm no huge fan of Toyota, I must applaud them for making their Hybrid Versions of the Camry and RAV4 the most potent versions of those vehicles available, thus making them more compelling.
Time will tell what other treasures and surprises Kia has up it's sleeve!
people in quebec are smart, if you're going to buy an economy car might as well buy the base model
Taxi drivers in Old Quebec City are going to love the base model of this car.
Or buy the run-out model.
a surprised feature is height adjustable passengers seat standard.
10th gen civic does not have this, and shorter drivers hate the passenger seat.
I have one and even the service advisor didn't know it had a cvt
Nice Kia Forte can some tell me should I go for Forte or kia Optima or accord !
depends on what you’re looking for, forte is a compact economy sedan so you’re looking at a small car with outstanding gas mileage, the optima (now k5) is kia’s mid size that’s going to give you more luxury but also take away from your gas mileage, then the accord is another great option but that is from Honda. Look at some of those factors and decide upon yourself. I still drive a Kia Forte today from 2012, bought it brand new and now it has 245k miles and is problem free!
@@joelnation4380 nice to know Kia is great.. but now I am thinking of Hyundai sonata too , what would you suggest Kia Optima or Hyundai sonata ! Thanks for the reply
@@Reddylion well the Hyundai Sonata and Kia Optima (k5) are actually the same vehicles. They share the same frame, engine, and inter-workings, the only difference is whether you’re looking for something with just a little more luxury, in which I’d recommend the sonata, or something that’s a little more sportier, in which I’d recommend the optima. But all in all they’re both basically the same vehicles and will go hand in hand when it comes to the reliability of their components.
@@joelnation4380 ya true, I am confused between luxury and sporty, I may choose comfort Hyundai sonata if I get a good deal anyway there is still lots of time for it. There are more Hyundai sonatas for sale than Optima k5 specific colour etc...
@@Reddylion Yea, either one is a great option that you shouldn’t regret, especially with their amazing warranty
Depreciates like shit but its nice car.
Is it really more fuel efficient than the out-going model?
The specs suggest the previous model drinks less fuel.
I got 44 mpg going about 70 on the highway for a 55 mile trip. On the way back I put it in sport mode I got 38 mpg but a much more fun ride. I get about 30 city, but I have so many lights by me
My purchase decision is based on cars that can do 300,000km+ of hard driving. Which is why my last 5 cars (bought brand new) were Honda or Toyota. However, this Forte GT looks interesting. If the Koreans were able to drop in one of those 7.5K redline engine (like 2.0l in Miata) into the GT, it'd be equivalent to dropping a canon ball onto the Civic brand.
Looks good - we don't have this in the UK unless its the same as the Cee'd ?
I think it is. Not 100% sure however.
@@caelanes , me think the Cee"d uses different engines.
Don't think it comes with the 2.0L engine.
Uk has the deed which looks better imo. Australia is the only market I know of that has both.
The styling of this Kia Forte is so much better than the Honda Civic and these reviewers are raving about the Forte's CVT - nobody's raving about the Civic's CVT. Huum - The Civic's Turbo will be a problem with age whereas the Forte is a conventional engine. Just one negative - they rave about a keyless start - if this has a problem and it's out of warrantee - you'll need to float a loan with your banker. Keyless ignition has no benefits to the consumer but plenty of liabilities.
Civics have engine problems.
@@NinoNlkkl I got a 2006 Civic that has zero engine issues. Only issue with Honda is they are boring. The Camry looks great but the interior is not to my liking. I really like the interior of the Kia from what i have seen though.
@@jagsfanrick, yes, but do you have a late model Civic?
@@RUHappyATM did you read? My car is 12 years old.
@@jagsfanrick , yes I did.
So why comment on the reliability of a used car when we are comparing new cars?
Its like saying that Hyundai cars back in the 80's are cheap but "terrible", so I wouldn't buy Hyundai car in 2019!
Heating steering wheel and seats are NOT standard on all Kia Forte models (at least in the U.S... in fact, they are an option on most.
The GT version of this really is a baby Stinger! Nice little car!
@invidinvasion F*&K U, we are all entitled to our own opinions, you are not God, you don't know everything and everything you believe does not have to be true! Now F&*K off and mind your own business! lol
It ticks all the boxes except suspension. I would like to have multi link.
When Civic uses CVT, no issue.. when other carmaker uses CVT.. everybody dont like it.. people are brand concious
" Sweet and Sour "...LOL.
Love it. Great review.
Love it
The Borrego had a V8 and the K900 has a v8, so Kia had a V8 since 2009.
Not all of the 2019 fortes have heated steering wheels
I think in Canada it's standard
Iphone x was not the first iphone that had wireless charging
The 8 and X were released together so technically they both were.
Not a test and opinion on manual sports mode . You can really thrash on it and have fun .
Why is your ex has sunroof? Doesnt it come with ex plus?
Verdict? Kia Forte has no competition?
Does the base model have a flat TV on the dash too?
Yes.
We didnt buy the Carola because it doesnt have Android auto only apple car play. Not because we had to have it but because the infotainment console would be useless without apple.
Lol the reviewers shit on Québécois for buying the base model......it’s a car. Still gets you from point A to point B and less bells and whistles means less shit than can break and less money spent on repairs. The CVT being a prime example. Quebecois are more Euro in their approach to these sorts of things, they seem to prefer smaller, more efficient, simpler cars with manual transmissions. The rest of Canada seems to emulate the US (and I say this as an American). They want their cars big and ridiculous, with a bunch of unnecessary stupid shit.
What need does a push button start or even heating steering wheel provide? You can turn the key and keep your gloves on until the car heats up. And don’t get me started on the lane departure warning stuff. How about YOU PAY ATTENTION AND FUCKING DRIVE.
All this extra crap is nothing more than a way for automakers to justify jacking up the price, not to mention adding new shit to break (and thus repair). All the while making drivers less engaged and basically asleep at the wheel. Smh
Have a 2020 gt line does it have heated steering wheel
I got a 2017 Kia forte & already I have engine probably I'm switching to corrolla for more reliablility
The kia has a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty
needs a turbo......no joke.....get the 1.6Turbo from the hyundai tucson and drop it in!
They do have it in the GT trim.
Is it me or cabin noise is very high
5:37 easy easy, let it go, let it go or it will feel like a real cvt. lol
You may get some flak from Quebecers about your generalizations about their cheap car buying habits, otherwise great review.
Nothing wrong with not wasting money on non essential features and saving money for more important things.
Your head says "Does it compete with Civic or Corolla" there is nothing on here addressing that question and because I'm looking for one of those for my niece I just wasted 10 minutes on this video
Forte aka Cerato ?
Yes
The CVT shouldve been paired with a start gear like the new corolla hatchback and I would be more convinced
The Japanese Yaris has a two speed with the CVT.. works way different from the Corolla.. missed opportunity the Corolla should a gotten that Transmission
If design right.. in real world driving u don't even need a start gear in a CVT.. most people wouldn't even notice .. besides what's the point.. at least in the JDM Yaris it's CVT has high range and CVT low range not just for starting off 🙄
No compromises? How about higher risk of transmission failure before 100,000 miles? CVTS are known for lack of durability.
Honda, Subaru, and Toyota CVT's have no issues. Stay away from Nissan CVT's though. They are trash.
At least Kia has has the best warranty in the business to help alleviate your concern.
@@thundergato84 Honda's 😂😂😂 they been trying to perfect their shitty CVT's for years.. darn things are junk maybe new to u in the States or Canada but i have seen the trail of parts and broken hearts they have left behind.. so now they're selling those things in North America.. no thank u... hey just wait a few year and we'll see once they get a few miles on them.. maybe they finally got it right
i would rather roll the dice 🎲 with a Nissan CVT vs Honda
@@thundergato84 Subaru started some of the Early mass produced CVT's in the JUSTY.. they weren't bad little car.. Drove the JDM Yaris and it's CVT actually pretty good 👍🏾, My Dad's 2007 Nissan Bluebird Sylphy as a CVT, still going strong so as the ROGUE'S , Honda just don't trust 🧐.. not yet anyways too much years of shady issue that got swept under the rug
Well this car does come with a manual transmission, which is my own preference anyway.
sorry I like my neck to be partially snapped back on hard accleration
The Kia k900 has a v8
Ah. You’re right!
The old Kia Borego also had the V8.
wrong..i grabbed the base model...why!!,,,i keep my cars a long time and i dont trust automatic gearboxes...some of the fancy features i miss out on are just things that will crap themselves later...only thing i miss is satnav built in
Stephen edwards just install a aftermarket pioneer head unit with applecar play and android auto
You COULD care less? Go ahead, care less.
Kia does make good cars but the dealer network in the States is hideous. Hyundai is probably just as bad. Probably explains why the Stinger sales numbers are so laughable. Unless you have an inside contact with a Kia / Hyundai dealership or know of a good broker you may want to avoid the hassle with those brands.
Ivan Vojt maybe if you live in a state out in the boonies lol
Ivan Vojt you are probably right
Why
these cvt transmission with fake gears are just stupid. the whole point of cvts is to get better fuel economy. now you lose the benefit of better mpg but still have to deal with the likelihood of worse reliability long-term.