The blurred top section starting at 1:37 is due to an incorrect fact I had posted. Find My Device DOES work on GrapheneOS. One difference from the stock OS is that if the device is turned off, it will NOT be reachable. I haven't tested out the feature yet, but I may for a future video since I'm sure some people would like to use it on their device.
@sideofburritos Thank you very much for all your hard work and this excellent video. We appreciate you updating the video with the issue correction at said time-frame. Very kind of you! Looking forward to seeing more of your great work in the future! - GrapheneOS Team
Holy crap, the persistent audio device switcher is a GODSEND. There have been so many times where ive had my earphones connected but i havent played anything in a while, then ill open a social media app that doesnt use the media player, and have to go to a music player app or even play some music JUST to get that switcher to come up for me.
Great overview, thank you. One thing I found on my GrapheneOS install (pixel 6A) was that I needed to re-install the offline dictionary to do voice-to-text. That feature completely stopped working and had me scratching my head. That would have been a significant pain point for me, as I use speech-to-text routinely, and prefer the offline feature so (presumably) no data goes to Google. A helpful fellow on the GrapheneOS forum clearly outlined how to restore that functionality. It was straightforward, and worked.
@@maklimcz I use the built in functionality in the standard google (gboard) keyboard. After downloading the offline database, I disable network access to gboard.
@@gregbirger5810 Have you tried FUTO Voice? Works very well for me, but not so much for my wife. It automatically inserts punctuation which is cool, but sometimes it misses question marks and cannot do exclamation points! It also processes your entire voice snip before it displays anything. It is free, but they ask for $10 for the app, which I was happy to pay to support a privacy respecting company and app.
Thanks! I haven't used RCS in a while, but I haven't seen any reports of issues on Android 15 with it. Apart from the usual strangeness that happens when people try to use it. Here's the megathread when it comes to RCS - discuss.grapheneos.org/d/1353-using-rcs-with-google-messages-on-grapheneos
I think for RCS to work with Graphene, Google needs to approve the OS (which is never going to happen). RCS may be an "open standard", but Google controls it on Android.
Interesting that the screen recorder blocks out incognito except when in splitscreen mode. And still shows the touchscreen cursor when inputting a passcode.
It does block it out in incognito/split screen. If I had tried to unlock incognito, it would then be black. It just stills shows the unlock screen in the recording. As far as the touches go, I had those manually enabled in the screen recording. Still kind of surprising they wouldn't have blocked that out now that you mention it. Seems like they should hide everything related to PIN entry if they're going to block it anyway.
@@sideofburritos My banking app started working again. I wonder if Google stopped blocking them or did Graphene work around google lol not sure but happy it is working again. I used browser while the app was down. If you find out what happened let us know please. Thanks
My phone updated and I honestly didn't even notice I was just like ahh things look a little different and boom checked to see android 15! Thanks for the videos!
I see GrapheneOS Devs recommending using this, but I'm still not sure the best way to do this? Google Apps in the private space vs sensitive apps in the privates space, etc?
If you share your device, then I would be more concerned about my sensitive apps. If you don't share your device, then your sensitive apps should already be protected by your device PIN. On a non-shared device, it would then seem better to have Google Apps in the private space. If you're concerned about your sensitive apps in the same spot as Google Apps, then a separate User would be better. Like @Fuzzzdaddy said, “There isn't a “best” way. Just a way that makes sense to you.”
Thanks for the intro to the private space. I wish the developers would make it possible to group apps in the private space, unfortunately that's not possible in pixel 7 and 9. Unfortunately, the private space gets quite full and cluttered with all the apps that are there in alphabetical order.
Oh! Mahalo for specifying that "Find My Device" doesn't work in Android 15! Excellent! No phone is worth tying myself to what will undoubtedly be a huge, intrusive mesh network. Haven't decided whether I need to upgrade to Graphene's Android 15 quite yet. Thanks to you, however, I see it won't be all that bad. Aloha!
Absolutely, I see no reason not to upgrade. By not upgrading, you're also missing out on the underlying security improvements/fixes that Android 15 has.
What I initially posted what incorrect about the “Find My Device” feature. Here's a copy of the pinned comment I added: The blurred top section starting at 1:37 is due to an incorrect fact I had posted. Find My Device DOES work on GrapheneOS. One difference from the stock OS is that if the device is turned off, it will NOT be reachable. I haven't tested out the feature yet, but I may for a future video since I'm sure some people would like to use it on their device.
@@sideofburritos Mahalo for this research! Most of the time, the NFC, BT, WiFi and cell radios are all turned OFF on my phone BEFORE I shut off the phone anyway. Because of Apple mesh network, I taught myself to do this with my iPhone 6S when I had it. Because of Apple, I kept all my inactive phones off and in my Faraday bag until it was time for me to make a call. I'm not concerned with receiving calls. Again...many thanks and much aloha!
I thought split screen functionality was removed. What an obtuse way to enable it. Thanks for the video. Private spaces looks nice, but I assume even with a private space you could still be tracked or spied on with TikTok, Instagram, Google, etc. just by connecting to home wifi or using cellular data at home right?
Exactly what @slashtab said. Private space doesn't help you from a network perspective. For that you need a VPN/TOR. It also comes down to your usage and what information you provide to the service. The one thing private space does is once you lock it, the app will no longer be running in the background.
Great video! Can you have multiple private spaces? Does private space replace multiple user profiles and has this changed your setup from the previous video? Presumably there is no IPC between privace space(s) and the host profile and each other?
At this time, no. You're limited to one. No, I haven't begun using it yet. I don't see it changing my setup unless private space becomes available in secondary user profiles. Or, if the “install available apps” is added to private space. This thread has a bunch of details and discussion on the feature - discuss.grapheneos.org/d/16670-private-space-on-android-15-grapheneos
I use Proton for email, but I use Mullvad for my VPN. I like the service overall, and I think it's a good option for a lot of people. I'm personally hesitant to use them for everything (email, passwords, etc.), so I try to split that up.
I don't think it's all devices. The Pixel 9 is supposed to have it - www.androidpolice.com/google-pixel-9-display-output/ It looks like it should work on the 8 and 9 - discuss.grapheneos.org/d/16578-desktop-mode/4
Thanks for the edit, most people like to make a comment and then bounce :). I also had no clue it's been in since 11, I never heard anyone mention it. I feel like it should be a popup somewhere telling you it exists.
can't wait till pro 8 finally gets price a bit lower I could afford it and get try it with GOS. The private space feature seems a very decent idea, to have your stuff under a password, different than your phones password. That is a security enhancement, imho.
Absolutely. It's also great because you can use the apps in it, and then when you lock it, they're no longer running. It's a great way to keeps things separate without the added friction of user profiles.
@@sideofburritos which pixel have you got? I've started thinking about 8a over 8 pro, because it is smaller, newer, but powerful equally as pro, and keeping in mind the custom ROM productivity and no-resource-hungry approach, somehow I keep leaning into 8a side. What do you think?
@@false_positive I have a 6a and a 7. My daily is the 6a. Unless you really need/want something the non-a has, I would get the 8a. You can save a few bucks, and it's a smaller form factor. You could also wait 6 months or so and get the 9a.
Did you happen to know that even with GrapheneOS it doesn't matter in the end because Googles Tensor Chips have something called Titan M chip(Similar to Intel ME) which is closed source and can control your entire phone, bypass all network configurations, break all encryptions, turn on your phone and all without the OS never being able to detect what it does?
Please refrain from posting unsubstantiated claims. The burden of proof is on you if you discovered something. Posting any random hunch you have without reputable proof is harmful, especially in a public setting. It's also just lazy.
The blurred top section starting at 1:37 is due to an incorrect fact I had posted. Find My Device DOES work on GrapheneOS. One difference from the stock OS is that if the device is turned off, it will NOT be reachable. I haven't tested out the feature yet, but I may for a future video since I'm sure some people would like to use it on their device.
@@sideofburritos I'll test it too 🗿
@sideofburritos Thank you very much for all your hard work and this excellent video. We appreciate you updating the video with the issue correction at said time-frame. Very kind of you! Looking forward to seeing more of your great work in the future!
- GrapheneOS Team
Holy crap, the persistent audio device switcher is a GODSEND. There have been so many times where ive had my earphones connected but i havent played anything in a while, then ill open a social media app that doesnt use the media player, and have to go to a music player app or even play some music JUST to get that switcher to come up for me.
Great overview, thank you. One thing I found on my GrapheneOS install (pixel 6A) was that I needed to re-install the offline dictionary to do voice-to-text. That feature completely stopped working and had me scratching my head. That would have been a significant pain point for me, as I use speech-to-text routinely, and prefer the offline feature so (presumably) no data goes to Google. A helpful fellow on the GrapheneOS forum clearly outlined how to restore that functionality. It was straightforward, and worked.
which speech to text service you use??
@@maklimcz I use the built in functionality in the standard google (gboard) keyboard. After downloading the offline database, I disable network access to gboard.
@@gregbirger5810 Have you tried FUTO Voice? Works very well for me, but not so much for my wife. It automatically inserts punctuation which is cool, but sometimes it misses question marks and cannot do exclamation points! It also processes your entire voice snip before it displays anything. It is free, but they ask for $10 for the app, which I was happy to pay to support a privacy respecting company and app.
Good stuff! Thanks!
You're welcome!
Thanks! Greatly appreciate this video, I certainly wasn't aware of any of the functions you showed!
I always wonder if the things I share in these kinds of videos are already “generally” know, but I'm happy to hear they aren't!
Dude you're my favorite TH-camr! You make the best content.
Have you been able to use RCS since this new update?
Thanks!
I haven't used RCS in a while, but I haven't seen any reports of issues on Android 15 with it. Apart from the usual strangeness that happens when people try to use it. Here's the megathread when it comes to RCS - discuss.grapheneos.org/d/1353-using-rcs-with-google-messages-on-grapheneos
I think for RCS to work with Graphene, Google needs to approve the OS (which is never going to happen).
RCS may be an "open standard", but Google controls it on Android.
Interesting that the screen recorder blocks out incognito except when in splitscreen mode. And still shows the touchscreen cursor when inputting a passcode.
It does block it out in incognito/split screen. If I had tried to unlock incognito, it would then be black. It just stills shows the unlock screen in the recording. As far as the touches go, I had those manually enabled in the screen recording. Still kind of surprising they wouldn't have blocked that out now that you mention it. Seems like they should hide everything related to PIN entry if they're going to block it anyway.
Thanks I use Graphene and didn't notice changes in volume until you mentioned it.
I rarely use those volume settings, it took me a while to come across it in daily use.
@@sideofburritos My banking app started working again. I wonder if Google stopped blocking them or did Graphene work around google lol not sure but happy it is working again. I used browser while the app was down. If you find out what happened let us know please. Thanks
My phone updated and I honestly didn't even notice I was just like ahh things look a little different and boom checked to see android 15! Thanks for the videos!
You're welcome! I know what you mean. I had to hunt for changes to share 😂
Private Spaces is the best thing that android 15 did
Agreed. It's probably one of the best features they've released in the last few iterations of Android.
Implementation of multiple private space will be easier now. If devs decide to do so. Using it is more convenient than user profile.
@slashtab truuuue
OnePlus has had this feature already years ago
@@ruudvanveelen and?
I see GrapheneOS Devs recommending using this, but I'm still not sure the best way to do this? Google Apps in the private space vs sensitive apps in the privates space, etc?
second this. Vs. Work profile too
There isn't a "best" way. Just a way that makes sense to you.
If you share your device, then I would be more concerned about my sensitive apps. If you don't share your device, then your sensitive apps should already be protected by your device PIN. On a non-shared device, it would then seem better to have Google Apps in the private space. If you're concerned about your sensitive apps in the same spot as Google Apps, then a separate User would be better. Like @Fuzzzdaddy said, “There isn't a “best” way. Just a way that makes sense to you.”
thanks for the video, Private space is basicly work profile but you don't need an app like shelter, very cool
It's an user profile technically. You can still have work profile with shelter, so three profiles in owner profile
@slashtab It's similar to a user profile, but it's not technically a user profile.
Thanks for the intro to the private space. I wish the developers would make it possible to group apps in the private space, unfortunately that's not possible in pixel 7 and 9. Unfortunately, the private space gets quite full and cluttered with all the apps that are there in alphabetical order.
did not know about private spaces. thank you, great video!
Thanks, you're welcome!
Great vid love seeing u bck making graphene content keep up great content thanks
Thank you! Glad to be back!
Let's get that podcast going! Can we get it uploaded to TH-cam or Spotify or whatever? Or only available on the web for now?
It up there! You can find the links (Apple, Spotify, AntennaPod) here - intheshellpodcast.com/
Oh! Mahalo for specifying that "Find My Device" doesn't work in Android 15!
Excellent! No phone is worth tying myself to what will undoubtedly be a huge, intrusive mesh network.
Haven't decided whether I need to upgrade to Graphene's Android 15 quite yet. Thanks to you, however, I see it won't be all that bad. Aloha!
Absolutely, I see no reason not to upgrade. By not upgrading, you're also missing out on the underlying security improvements/fixes that Android 15 has.
@@sideofburritos Gonna upgrade it, then! Mahalo!
What I initially posted what incorrect about the “Find My Device” feature. Here's a copy of the pinned comment I added:
The blurred top section starting at 1:37 is due to an incorrect fact I had posted. Find My Device DOES work on GrapheneOS. One difference from the stock OS is that if the device is turned off, it will NOT be reachable. I haven't tested out the feature yet, but I may for a future video since I'm sure some people would like to use it on their device.
@@sideofburritos Mahalo for this research! Most of the time, the NFC, BT, WiFi and cell radios are all turned OFF on my phone BEFORE I shut off the phone anyway. Because of Apple mesh network, I taught myself to do this with my iPhone 6S when I had it. Because of Apple, I kept all my inactive phones off and in my Faraday bag until it was time for me to make a call. I'm not concerned with receiving calls.
Again...many thanks and much aloha!
I thought split screen functionality was removed. What an obtuse way to enable it. Thanks for the video. Private spaces looks nice, but I assume even with a private space you could still be tracked or spied on with TikTok, Instagram, Google, etc. just by connecting to home wifi or using cellular data at home right?
It's same as it was with owner and user profile. If you're giving them your IP and and other user data, of course you can be tracked.
Exactly what @slashtab said. Private space doesn't help you from a network perspective. For that you need a VPN/TOR. It also comes down to your usage and what information you provide to the service. The one thing private space does is once you lock it, the app will no longer be running in the background.
Wish there was an option to change the font, cause it feels a little too vanilla. Just switched from iOS to a P9Pro with GOS and loving it so far
Great video! Can you have multiple private spaces? Does private space replace multiple user profiles and has this changed your setup from the previous video?
Presumably there is no IPC between privace space(s) and the host profile and each other?
At this time, no. You're limited to one. No, I haven't begun using it yet. I don't see it changing my setup unless private space becomes available in secondary user profiles. Or, if the “install available apps” is added to private space. This thread has a bunch of details and discussion on the feature - discuss.grapheneos.org/d/16670-private-space-on-android-15-grapheneos
Thoughts on Proton VPN and their other services?
I use Proton for email, but I use Mullvad for my VPN. I like the service overall, and I think it's a good option for a lot of people. I'm personally hesitant to use them for everything (email, passwords, etc.), so I try to split that up.
thx man!
You're very welcome!
Is there 80% battery limit feature available?
Thanks a bunch.
Thanks
You're welcome!
Did they also add the cap charge at 80% in this new version of GrapheneOS?
No, that's feature is supposed to be in QPR1 - discuss.grapheneos.org/d/16750-grapheneos-version-2024102400-released/25
I thought a new update was added so the phone could be connected to a monitor for a desktop-like mode??
I don't think it's all devices. The Pixel 9 is supposed to have it - www.androidpolice.com/google-pixel-9-display-output/
It looks like it should work on the 8 and 9 - discuss.grapheneos.org/d/16578-desktop-mode/4
Does grapheneOS have anything similar to samsung floating window and sidebar?
Splitscreen has been in android since like 11
*Edit:* Should have left the video playing for 2 more seconds :P That's a cool feature!
Thanks for the edit, most people like to make a comment and then bounce :). I also had no clue it's been in since 11, I never heard anyone mention it. I feel like it should be a popup somewhere telling you it exists.
can't wait till pro 8 finally gets price a bit lower I could afford it and get try it with GOS.
The private space feature seems a very decent idea, to have your stuff under a password, different than your phones password. That is a security enhancement, imho.
Absolutely. It's also great because you can use the apps in it, and then when you lock it, they're no longer running. It's a great way to keeps things separate without the added friction of user profiles.
@@sideofburritos which pixel have you got? I've started thinking about 8a over 8 pro, because it is smaller, newer, but powerful equally as pro, and keeping in mind the custom ROM productivity and no-resource-hungry approach, somehow I keep leaning into 8a side. What do you think?
@@false_positive I have a 6a and a 7. My daily is the 6a. Unless you really need/want something the non-a has, I would get the 8a. You can save a few bucks, and it's a smaller form factor. You could also wait 6 months or so and get the 9a.
Just started to watch... Does GrapheneOS have a desktop mode like Samsung Dex?
The last post on this page has details about desktop mode - discuss.grapheneos.org/d/16578-desktop-mode
Still waiting to snag a deal on a Pixel 8 Pro. Can't wait to get off the advertiser/marketing/spyware grid.
100% it's a hell of a feeling when you do. Some deals should be coming up with the holidays.
My daughter said thank you for the oranges. 😅
hello , what kind of encyption graphene os has ? If somebody is taking my phone and whant to break the phone ?!
grapheneos.org/faq#encryption
Their site has a ton of great info.
Thanks man, tbh didn't really realize until now that Android 15 has been installed.. 😅😅
😂 you're not the first one to say that. Unless you're purposefully looking, it's tough to tell a difference.
Does someone know a free safe git hub PDF reader?
Are you on GrapheneOS or something else?
Did you happen to know that even with GrapheneOS it doesn't matter in the end because Googles Tensor Chips have something called Titan M chip(Similar to Intel ME) which is closed source and can control your entire phone, bypass all network configurations, break all encryptions, turn on your phone and all without the OS never being able to detect what it does?
Please refrain from posting unsubstantiated claims. The burden of proof is on you if you discovered something. Posting any random hunch you have without reputable proof is harmful, especially in a public setting. It's also just lazy.
Android just add features that are already added in Chinese OEMs/Samsung.