If you like the Kuhn Slingers I recommend looking at the LEO 2010 spreader. It has the older oil bath style, but it is much heavier built with stainless steel sides. The hammers is nigh and day difference for penpack around our hay feeder. Was significantly less on the pocket book. We have had one, shoot probably since 2015.
We’ve had Knight/ Kuhn for ever.Demoed a Meyer 7500 liked it and bought it.Had it about 4 months and had to trade it off.The boys had nothing but trouble with it,pitched it out 4 times.We never pitched out a knight/ Kuhn,we ended up with a Kuhn 124 that we replaced the Meyer with.We also had a Kuhn 8118 that we traded in for a pro push Kuhn 2044 for pen pack.The hammers ain’t bad to change,we’ve changed out a fair amount.The 124 going to be a lot higher than your 8114 .Measure and try before you buy and what ever you try load it with boxstall manure and see how it does.
If you could find a smaller Meyer's to fit your operation, I'd recommend that brand... they're built heavy. Have had a Meyer's 3750 for 10 years and not a single problem with it. Had a Kuhn Knight previously before that for a couple years and despised it and couldn't handle anything heavy... or course that was over 10 years ago, so I'm sure there's been vast improvement. Good luck on your choice!
A friend of mine has a Meyer spreader. Mostly used on chicken litter but he does use a lot on his beef operation also. Does a really nice job never many issues that i've known goes pretty well everyday. I know of another guy with the same spreader on his beef operation and he has even spread lime with his Meyer spreader. With those spinners on the back they do a pretty good job at it to.
mikep7810 yes we’ve had a few problems with the geese and chains in the front but we came to find that it was because we where turning to shot but a really nice reliable spreader
Big fan of the Kuhn spreaders. Yes the hammers can be a pain to work on but over all the design is simple to maintain. The oil bath is great and takes care of lubricating alot of those major components. I would rather deal with a major repair in hammers once in a while instead of having to fuss over if the brush is oiling the thing or if the gear boxes will fail. Not to mention the added maintenance. Handling Pen Pack and Slurry never had problems. Even semi frozen chunks from scraping free stalls and piling that up to haul out later when it was extremely cold never bothered, The hammers just grind everything up nicely.
Ive got the same one you guys currently have. 8114 been a good spreader. Meyers freeze up in the back when its real cold out and being rear unload takes weight off the drawbar so when its muddy and no 4wd you have lots of fun! Never used an h&s but i believe thats the ol gehl scavenger design, which worked good. Opposite unload side vs the kuhn knights
That's the one thing I always hated about my Knight 8018. Every other piece of equipment you run you look to the right. But it was a good spreader til it rusted out.
I have a Kuhn Knight 8114 works good except if we get a long cold streak it likes to freeze up between the bottom auger and the belly where it’s hard to scrap off the manure
Kuhn spreaders are great spreaders and easy to work on. Meyer spreaders are also good spreaders. With the Meyers though, they like grease to operate or else stuff starts rusting up and they are known to have the gear boxes going out if not maintained properly. Just my two cents from working on many of both brands
I ran an h&s with vertical beaters and twin augers. One of the most even spread patterns i have ever seen. It took dense pen pack and liquid manure like a champ
@@mikep7810 i would look into it. All the farm had was a patz unloader coming thru the tie stall barn the outside. The spreader was maybe 6 ft high maybr 6.5 ft
700 cubic foot artex with vertical beaters... is what we use..... but dont think it would fit in your operation very well.... be interesting to see all the ones you looked at in action though.... something about spreading manure is pretty awesome to watch
Meyer is a smaller company, so the production quality is often higher than larger brands, like Kuhn or New Holland, and because Meyer specializes in equipment for dairy farms, they often have more options that would suit your operation.
I work with a buddy who runs a custom manure company. The kuhns are by far the best. We have two 8040 slingers and a meyer industrial. If it hard pen pack all the way to liquid Kuhn is the way to go. The hammers are far far superior to anything. We run about 1500 loads through each spreader each year mostly sand from lagoons but a couple hundred loads of pen pack. The Meyer will do pen pack but it doesn't tear it up like the hammers do. But if you are just throwing out on the ground and not worrying about uniform coverage get the H&S or Meyer.
You know I’m gonna recommend Meyer, mine is going on 12 years know and has been pretty trouble free. Had two Gelh side slingers which I believe were made by H&S for them and after 5 or 6 years always starting having problems with them, especially the bearings on the slinger shaft Greased the shit out of them but they would always wear out Also didn’t like the way long hay wrapped around the auger if you used it in your gutters especially in the winter months. You’re gonna spend more on a Meyer but they are well built and should be the last spreader you will buy I know your brother doesn’t like to spread from the back though 😆 I remember plenty of times in the days of spreading with an open tractor of getting covered in shit when the wind changed direction, or covering some kid when he sat on a ATV watching me spread 🤣🤣🤣 What a nice uncle I was!
From what you saw on the video did the H&S still look like the gehl you had? When we go to the farm show you will have to look it over and see if they have improved on the design
At home we have an old box spreader new idea it works ok for pen pack beef manure but i let it compost out pretty well b4 spreading. At work we have 3 spreaders, old jd hydra push box spreader works good for pen pack and dry stuff. an old nh slinger even older than the 1 in the video the auger was removed years ago because it broke and i think they don't make parts for it anymore we only run liquid in it now that gets transferred from our tanker because it leaks pretty bad by the gate at the beaters. Finally we have a h&s vertical beater hydra push it works awesome for pen pack, dry stuff, compost and some wetter stuff but forget about anything thats liquidity. The few things i don't like about it are the beaters are pretty tall and if you are spreading stuff that was dumped in the field you can get rocks flying back at you if the guy loading digs in deep it has a screen to protect the tractor some and we added on to make it bigger but still have put a rock through the back window. It has the brush type oiler for the chain which did give us some trouble but was fixed and has been fine since just need to keep an eye on the reservoir since its kind of small. Either the kuhn or h&s would be nice spreaders to have. I like the bear claw type beaters on the h&s they seem like they would rip into pen pack pretty well.
@@mikep7810 imho hydra push is the way to go. My Main reasoning behind that is no apron chains to mess with and worry about freezing up in the winter. Im sure that the newer spreaders with hydraulic driven apron chains aren't too bad but i just remember the nightmares of the older box spreaders with apron chains that ran off the pto and gearboxes or ground drives. Granted the hydra pushs can freeze up too but a bit of extra work with a shovel after running for the day goes along way.
we run an h&s 430 box spreader in dutchess county, ny. we have a lot of bed pack or we would have a knight slinger. ideally if we could afford it we would have both, slinger for the tie stall and box spreader for the pack barn. we will be going with an h&s 3143 when we get a new spreader.
Hey Mike we use a Kuhn side slinger and we don't have many things go wrong with them we have had a hydro push to and that was great u could run anything through it. Was the 9rx up to John Deere when you were there
We run a box style gehl 1177. Old used and abused. But gets the job done for our little operation. I'm curious how a v spreader would handle all the thick bed pack we spread. Alot of operations here in wny run the kuhns.
Gehl 1322 and NH 195. The Gehl, NH, and H&S V spreaders are all the exact same spreaders. Good for liquid or semi solid and barn cleaner manure I'm sure would be fine but stay away from to much pen pack that's where the Kuhn has a big advantage. The pl addles are maybe better for liquid than the hammers but the Kuhn wins overall. We had a Meyers that worked too for what we used it for. If I was hauling just slop I'd take H&S but multiple use Kuhn. We don't use the Gehl in winter because it's to frozen tight.
We've had several of all three types of spreaders. We daily spread sand laden freestall manure. The kuhns are good hammers a pain in the ass and need to replaced all the time with sand manure. The H and S are good. They spread well and hold up well. The problem with them in our experience is bridging in the winter time because of the single augur. The Meyers have always held up well for us dont bridge up in the winter. Also the beaters on the back are pretty bullet proof and receive alot less wear and tear than the kuhns.
Hey Mike we have a H&S 5115. We went with H&S because the knight could not handle frozen shit or so we where told by three different dealerships. We haul two loads every day and two times a week we haul four loads. Cleaning up a pile this spring we picked up a stone the size of a basketball bent the door up bad. Had it straightened and new paddles but back on. Dont get single tires on that 5215 get tandems. It's worth the extra money carries the load smother not so much splashing of liquid shit. We dont have a problem with it as long as we keep it scrapped down. If you want come down and run it if you dont mind Making a hour and half ride from cazz equipment. Ha ha
H&S makes NH Vspreaders nowadays so if you decide that route price a NH they are the same. Gehl used to make the vtanks for NH and NH used to make Gehls box spreaders before they ended making farm equipment. I run a NH 155 box spreaders and a knigjht 8018 until it rusted out to much. The augers are good if someone needed them.
we have a gehl which is identical to the h &s we use it for freestall manure which is soupy and it works great. not so great in pack manure so we use a box type for that.
I like the V over the box because I like the augers. Pretty simple to use. The rear unload vs the side unload both looked good to me. The kuhn was nice, the h&s was nice and so was the meyer
I would personally go with the Kuhn a better all around spreader that you know is reliable had a Newholland like the h and s it was a good spreader but it didn’t like pen pack manure
I bought a new kuhn 8114 with the two augers . What ever u do do not get a rock in it . With my older kuhn with one auger they will slide along and come out not with too augers
id go with h&s because i had a gehl for years,hauld 2 loads ever day only problem i had the front cylinder bracket broke,when its cold i would open the door raise the auger and turn it on anything froze went right out,them meyers have to small auger shafts which do brake in the front bearings my neighbor broke 2 in the last 2 years.the kuhn never used one but i think i would hate the left side discharge.
Having 1 auger as opposed to 2 or 3 is less moving parts and less parts to break. Having the ability to move the single auger you can move the material to the discharge paddles as it goes down. You can also raise your auger out of material if you have a partial load to keep it from freezing
@@mikep7810 thanks for the reply. I grew up on a dairy farm in Ireland. It's really interesting to see farming methods in different regions. I used to live by the airport in Philadelphia, then Texas and now Mississippi.
We had a gehl scavenger that had the same style of unload and we had a lot of problems and couldn’t run hay thought it it clog up and just had a lot of problems
i’ll never go back to h&s now that i own a kuhn. twin auger is way better and even though the hammers suck to change the fingers on the h&s get manure frozen all over them and like to shear off pins
Just from experience the hammers are a pain to replace and you will know when one goes out because is will make the spreader unbalanced and shake the tractor really bad, and second one auger at least on our older one the single auger does not do good at all at any kind of pack
Did not like the Kuhn knight do to having weak rims and tires and the front unloads always got manure on the tractor. The Kuhn knights never handled pen pack very well. The Meyer is just a beast so far cause it handles everything we run through it and no manure going all over the tractor also the Meyer is easily greased
@@mikep7810 it's alright, pretty sturdy. It was a cheaper replacement than other options. It's super light, but I have to layer the spreader with hay so that the manure doesn't run out where the chain goes down. I also have to make sure it's cleaned out well when it's cold outside.
Hey Mike my dad,bother and I use to use 3 dry manure spreaders an John deer 780 and a 550 and 530 internationals. We are looking for two use but still in good spade liquid manure spreaders
I would stay away from the H&S we have a H&S and we have a Kuhn knight and the Kuhn is way better for liquid and pen pack the H&S is not good for pen pack and on ours the oil brush does not work very good at all having 2 augers is a lot better than the just 1 so if I was you guys I would go with the Kuhn Knight.
I agree. Same experience. The hammers seem to give a little more with tougher manure rather than shearing bolts. Also, lowering the auger on some pen pack would break the chain. I've ran many loads through both and would pick the kuhn knight anyday.
Yes I have broke a few chains and seared bolts with pen pack you raise the auger up and bring it back down and if it comes down too fast you have yourself a problem
No one else is saying it. So I will. Please don't climb on them used shit buckets without gloves. And afterwords you rubbed your left eye. Other then that. great video thx!!
mikep7810 we like it a lot just but new flighting in the lower auger and put a piece in between the hammers and the bottom of the chute and it flings out the manure real nice
Definitely get a chance to demo one first. I would try Myers for the money. They are all good spreaders. But the HS with the one auger if you haven't used it before give it a try before you buy. Have a great day
Shut up stupid you don't even use your little box spreader quit trying to give advice on something you have no clue about just keep borrowing whatever your neighbor has
Ethan johansen Onelonleyfarmer also mention when he’s using others peoples equipment. Eric he wants everybody to think that he owns all that equipment when actually his neighbor does. For all we know he doesn’t even on his own land I bet his neighbor owns that and he rents it from him.
Here we have know nothing Eric from The Farming Life. Eric you don't even own a spreader. The ones you used are begged and borrowed from neighbors. He used to have that Meyer spreader he used to use, and can't get that one any more, probably for not paying the owner for using it. Now he was using a small Knight, but even that one isn't around anymore and he is dumping in on a pile or leaves it in the over crowded pens for the cattle to suffer in. Just go away Eric.
If you like the Kuhn Slingers I recommend looking at the LEO 2010 spreader. It has the older oil bath style, but it is much heavier built with stainless steel sides. The hammers is nigh and day difference for penpack around our hay feeder. Was significantly less on the pocket book. We have had one, shoot probably since 2015.
Thank you Ben
We’ve had Knight/ Kuhn for ever.Demoed a Meyer 7500 liked it and bought it.Had it about 4 months and had to trade it off.The boys had nothing but trouble with it,pitched it out 4 times.We never pitched out a knight/ Kuhn,we ended up with a Kuhn 124 that we replaced the Meyer with.We also had a Kuhn 8118 that we traded in for a pro push Kuhn 2044 for pen pack.The hammers ain’t bad to change,we’ve changed out a fair amount.The 124 going to be a lot higher than your 8114 .Measure and try before you buy and what ever you try load it with boxstall manure and see how it does.
I'm sure there will be a bunch up at the farm show to check out. Kuhn does make a pretty nice spreader
If you could find a smaller Meyer's to fit your operation, I'd recommend that brand... they're built heavy. Have had a Meyer's 3750 for 10 years and not a single problem with it. Had a Kuhn Knight previously before that for a couple years and despised it and couldn't handle anything heavy... or course that was over 10 years ago, so I'm sure there's been vast improvement. Good luck on your choice!
Thank you. I know they make smaller ones. I think they are sharp looking spreaders and I like the looks of 3 augers inside
A friend of mine has a Meyer spreader. Mostly used on chicken litter but he does use a lot on his beef operation also. Does a really nice job never many issues that i've known goes pretty well everyday. I know of another guy with the same spreader on his beef operation and he has even spread lime with his Meyer spreader. With those spinners on the back they do a pretty good job at it to.
People who have a meyer seem to like them
So I’d say the knight cuz we had one of them to and it’s been like 8 years and no problems and really been reliable
They are really nice spreaders
mikep7810 yes we’ve had a few problems with the geese and chains in the front but we came to find that it was because we where turning to shot but a really nice reliable spreader
Big fan of the Kuhn spreaders. Yes the hammers can be a pain to work on but over all the design is simple to maintain. The oil bath is great and takes care of lubricating alot of those major components.
I would rather deal with a major repair in hammers once in a while instead of having to fuss over if the brush is oiling the thing or if the gear boxes will fail. Not to mention the added maintenance.
Handling Pen Pack and Slurry never had problems. Even semi frozen chunks from scraping free stalls and piling that up to haul out later when it was extremely cold never bothered, The hammers just grind everything up nicely.
We do like ours. Its basically gonna come down to price
I’d go with Kuhn Knight
Find an other equipment your interested in
It will be interesting to see what we pick
Ive got the same one you guys currently have. 8114 been a good spreader. Meyers freeze up in the back when its real cold out and being rear unload takes weight off the drawbar so when its muddy and no 4wd you have lots of fun! Never used an h&s but i believe thats the ol gehl scavenger design, which worked good. Opposite unload side vs the kuhn knights
That is 1 plus, you are now unloading and watching on the same side as your controls in the tractor
That's the one thing I always hated about my Knight 8018. Every other piece of equipment you run you look to the right. But it was a good spreader til it rusted out.
Go for the kuhn but i do not know whats in your budget greetings from a Dutch dairyfarmer
Its going to be an interesting decision
I have a Kuhn Knight 8114 works good except if we get a long cold streak it likes to freeze up between the bottom auger and the belly where it’s hard to scrap off the manure
We do like our 8114 too
Both look like good spreaders. Looks cold there.Have a good one
Its been pretty cold that's for sure. I think my brain got too cold at the end, I could barley talk
Kuhn spreaders are great spreaders and easy to work on. Meyer spreaders are also good spreaders. With the Meyers though, they like grease to operate or else stuff starts rusting up and they are known to have the gear boxes going out if not maintained properly. Just my two cents from working on many of both brands
Thanks for sharing! I appreciate the input
I ran an h&s with vertical beaters and twin augers. One of the most even spread patterns i have ever seen. It took dense pen pack and liquid manure like a champ
One of those would be nice but I think it would be too big for our shoot
@@mikep7810 i would look into it. All the farm had was a patz unloader coming thru the tie stall barn the outside. The spreader was maybe 6 ft high maybr 6.5 ft
I should have brought my tape measure. The New York State farm show is coming up next month so I'll get a chance to look at a bunch of them
Great TURD HURSE TOUR Mike!🤣👍👍👍
Thank you, glad you enjoyed
Kuhn has really stepped up with equipment choices. Hard to beat
Kuhn as a really great line up of equipment between Kuhn/Knight and Kuhn/Krause
Farmerjon9660 u guys have a Kuhn right
ontario ag guy kuhn easyspread 1230
How do you like it
mikep7810 other than the gearbox was broke from the factory it has been a great spreader. Course we only spread once a year prolly with 10 loads
Towards the end of the video, you were talking about the Meyer spreader. I noticed the building behind you. I bought my Yamaha Vstar from them.
Cool. I've only been in there once I think. I usually go to the farm supply store out front
we run a meyer and love it can spread any type manure. I also love the third auger keep fluffy pen pen from bridging when unloading
I've read a few guys who seem to be really happy with the Meyer
We had a kuhn slinger until we stopped milking really liked them. Now we haul bed pack and traded it for a vertical beater spreader.
How do you like the vertical beaters compared to the slinger?
@@mikep7810 the vertical beaters are great compared to a slinger when it comes to solids. Liquid manure is more for slingers
Thanks for sharing
700 cubic foot artex with vertical beaters... is what we use..... but dont think it would fit in your operation very well.... be interesting to see all the ones you looked at in action though.... something about spreading manure is pretty awesome to watch
Yeah its nice seeing them watch and seeing witch one can lay a nice even layer
Meyer is a smaller company, so the production quality is often higher than larger brands, like Kuhn or New Holland, and because Meyer specializes in equipment for dairy farms, they often have more options that would suit your operation.
I do like the looks of the meyer spreader
We use a Kuhn Knight 1219 Easy spread. It is a small box spreader. It work really good for our small farm of 21 beef cows and 106 acre.
you had good luck with that?
I work with a buddy who runs a custom manure company. The kuhns are by far the best. We have two 8040 slingers and a meyer industrial. If it hard pen pack all the way to liquid Kuhn is the way to go. The hammers are far far superior to anything. We run about 1500 loads through each spreader each year mostly sand from lagoons but a couple hundred loads of pen pack. The Meyer will do pen pack but it doesn't tear it up like the hammers do. But if you are just throwing out on the ground and not worrying about uniform coverage get the H&S or Meyer.
Kuhn does make a very nice spreader
You know I’m gonna recommend Meyer, mine is going on 12 years know and has been pretty trouble free.
Had two Gelh side slingers which I believe were made by H&S for them and after 5 or 6 years always starting having problems with them, especially the bearings on the slinger shaft
Greased the shit out of them but they would always wear out
Also didn’t like the way long hay wrapped around the auger if you used it in your gutters especially in the winter months.
You’re gonna spend more on a Meyer but they are well built and should be the last spreader you will buy
I know your brother doesn’t like to spread from the back though 😆
I remember plenty of times in the days of spreading with an open tractor of getting covered in shit when the wind changed direction, or covering some kid when he sat on a ATV watching me spread 🤣🤣🤣
What a nice uncle I was!
From what you saw on the video did the H&S still look like the gehl you had? When we go to the farm show you will have to look it over and see if they have improved on the design
At home we have an old box spreader new idea it works ok for pen pack beef manure but i let it compost out pretty well b4 spreading. At work we have 3 spreaders, old jd hydra push box spreader works good for pen pack and dry stuff. an old nh slinger even older than the 1 in the video the auger was removed years ago because it broke and i think they don't make parts for it anymore we only run liquid in it now that gets transferred from our tanker because it leaks pretty bad by the gate at the beaters. Finally we have a h&s vertical beater hydra push it works awesome for pen pack, dry stuff, compost and some wetter stuff but forget about anything thats liquidity. The few things i don't like about it are the beaters are pretty tall and if you are spreading stuff that was dumped in the field you can get rocks flying back at you if the guy loading digs in deep it has a screen to protect the tractor some and we added on to make it bigger but still have put a rock through the back window. It has the brush type oiler for the chain which did give us some trouble but was fixed and has been fine since just need to keep an eye on the reservoir since its kind of small. Either the kuhn or h&s would be nice spreaders to have. I like the bear claw type beaters on the h&s they seem like they would rip into pen pack pretty well.
Thanks for sharing. How do you like the hydro push type spreaders? I like the bear claw type design too
@@mikep7810 imho hydra push is the way to go. My Main reasoning behind that is no apron chains to mess with and worry about freezing up in the winter. Im sure that the newer spreaders with hydraulic driven apron chains aren't too bad but i just remember the nightmares of the older box spreaders with apron chains that ran off the pto and gearboxes or ground drives. Granted the hydra pushs can freeze up too but a bit of extra work with a shovel after running for the day goes along way.
That's why we like the augers on the V style spreaders over the chains
get the Meyer......
I'll have to play subliminal messages for the old man....get the meyer!!! lol
mikep7810 I'll send you the video of mine working, I did a TH-cam overview of mine you can show him
@@dembeckfarms he was just down in New Jersey Sunday. He should have talked to Tom about his meyer
mikep7810 true, Tom could have told your dad the virtues of the Meyer
Are you thinking about going up to Syracuse to the farm show in February?
I bought a h&s in 2009 brand new and still running today no problems with it.
Awesome, thanks!
@@mikep7810 I don't run it everyday anymore but it usually hauls 5-8 loads a week out of here
Great look around spreaders is there a chance you could try different ones before you buy? Always nice to look around machinery and dream 😀👍
The New York State farm show is coming up next month so I'm sure there will be others up there to check out
Kuhn Knight is the best H&S single auger bedding pack won't fall down it will wedge in there
we run an h&s 430 box spreader in dutchess county, ny. we have a lot of bed pack or we would have a knight slinger. ideally if we could afford it we would have both, slinger for the tie stall and box spreader for the pack barn. we will be going with an h&s 3143 when we get a new spreader.
Thanks for sharing!
Why did you switch from the ones that throw out at the rear? We are a small farm and looking for a small one. Thank you for doing these videos!
Tried out something different and ended up really liking it
Hey Mike we use a Kuhn side slinger and we don't have many things go wrong with them we have had a hydro push to and that was great u could run anything through it. Was the 9rx up to John Deere when you were there
Yeah it was out front in the parking lot. Is that your new ractor?
@@mikep7810 I wish lol I tried to get them to give me the keys but they wouldn't lol my dad told me to use a rock
@@daleglezen5197 not like it used to be where you could take a key from one tractor and start all of them from the last 30 years.
We run a box style gehl 1177. Old used and abused. But gets the job done for our little operation. I'm curious how a v spreader would handle all the thick bed pack we spread. Alot of operations here in wny run the kuhns.
We've used the V style for many years and haven't really had any problems. The Kuhns are really nice spreaders
Nice video mike we always used box manure spreaders international gehl that we don't have anymore we have have a h&s box spreader
That one H&S box spreader was a pretty big spreader for a box spreader
Gehl 1322 and NH 195. The Gehl, NH, and H&S V spreaders are all the exact same spreaders. Good for liquid or semi solid and barn cleaner manure I'm sure would be fine but stay away from to much pen pack that's where the Kuhn has a big advantage. The pl addles are maybe better for liquid than the hammers but the Kuhn wins overall. We had a Meyers that worked too for what we used it for. If I was hauling just slop I'd take H&S but multiple use Kuhn. We don't use the Gehl in winter because it's to frozen tight.
Thanks for the info, gonna be an interesting decision
Alittle late but, we have a Meyer V Max well built and dependable. Spreads manure out 15' and no large lumps best we have ever used.👍
My uncle really likes his meyer. They are nice spreaders
We had a nh style like the h&s biggest piece of junk traded it for a kuhn knight 8114. Meyer spreaders have gear boxes so its a no go for me
We have a Kuhn 8114 right now
Would a v style spreader like that work with manure that has lots of straw in it? Or does that clog up the beaters?
We have had the Kuhn spreader and the H&S spreader and haven't had a problem with either of them
We've had several of all three types of spreaders. We daily spread sand laden freestall manure. The kuhns are good hammers a pain in the ass and need to replaced all the time with sand manure. The H and S are good. They spread well and hold up well. The problem with them in our experience is bridging in the winter time because of the single augur. The Meyers have always held up well for us dont bridge up in the winter. Also the beaters on the back are pretty bullet proof and receive alot less wear and tear than the kuhns.
Thanks for the info. Its gonna be a tough choice
Hey Mike we have a H&S 5115. We went with H&S because the knight could not handle frozen shit or so we where told by three different dealerships. We haul two loads every day and two times a week we haul four loads. Cleaning up a pile this spring we picked up a stone the size of a basketball bent the door up bad. Had it straightened and new paddles but back on. Dont get single tires on that 5215 get tandems. It's worth the extra money carries the load smother not so much splashing of liquid shit. We dont have a problem with it as long as we keep it scrapped down. If you want come down and run it if you dont mind Making a hour and half ride from cazz equipment. Ha ha
Where abouts are you located?
@@mikep7810 Fort Plain
Over near Cooperstown?
@@mikep7810 Google says whitney point is two hours away from fort plain you would have to go through Cooperstown to get here
H&S makes NH Vspreaders nowadays so if you decide that route price a NH they are the same. Gehl used to make the vtanks for NH and NH used to make Gehls box spreaders before they ended making farm equipment.
I run a NH 155 box spreaders and a knigjht 8018 until it rusted out to much. The augers are good if someone needed them.
There is a New York state farm show coming up next month so I'm hoping to get a good look at a few and some price quotes
we have a gehl which is identical to the h &s we use it for freestall manure which is soupy and it works great. not so great in pack manure so we use a box type for that.
Thanks for sharing
We have an old new idea but we don’t park it under the barn cleaner everyday, we put it in a pit. I would say the Kuhn or the Meyer
I remember when we had the old new idea spreader
Why do you like the v shape over the box and why do you like the side over rear feed? I'm looking to get one and wonder why you switch
I like the V over the box because I like the augers. Pretty simple to use. The rear unload vs the side unload both looked good to me. The kuhn was nice, the h&s was nice and so was the meyer
We went with the h&s over the kuhn because we liked the bear claw paddle over the hammers and the dealership we like to deal with had h&s and kuhn
@@mikep7810 does the side vs rear have a better spread? I been looking but I notice the side is more expensive lol.
I would personally go with the Kuhn a better all around spreader that you know is reliable had a Newholland like the h and s it was a good spreader but it didn’t like pen pack manure
It's gonna be an interesting decision
Kuhn Knight 8132 and 8118, very pleased with them both
Pretty nice spreaders
I always liked New Holland barrel spreaders.
A lot of people had them
I’ve never had to change the fingers on my New Holland which is the same as h&s. We had a gehl before loved them
Thanks for the Info!
The H&s may not spread as as fine if it matters to you at all. That would be a great spreader for us for sure but just can afford it right now.
Its gonna be in interesting decision
We just replased the bushings in the hammers like a month ago on are kuhn spreader
We did that last year. We end up cutting the bolts off and replacing the bolts
I bought a new kuhn 8114 with the two augers . What ever u do do not get a rock in it . With my older kuhn with one auger they will slide along and come out not with too augers
We have a Kuhn 8114 now. Nice spreader but getting worn
Started out 8 yrs old on new idea and case tractor then it was a case manure spreader, then a new holland, had 2 new holland
New Holland box spreaders?
Yes box spreaders
id go with h&s because i had a gehl for years,hauld 2 loads ever day only problem i had the front cylinder bracket broke,when its cold i would open the door raise the auger and turn it on anything froze went right out,them meyers have to small auger shafts which do brake in the front bearings my neighbor broke 2 in the last 2 years.the kuhn never used one but i think i would hate the left side discharge.
Gonna be an interesting decision
I'm sure H&S would be happy to give you a demo spreader for you to try out.
I'll have to ask them at the farm show next month
What is the advantage of being able to move the auger?
Having 1 auger as opposed to 2 or 3 is less moving parts and less parts to break. Having the ability to move the single auger you can move the material to the discharge paddles as it goes down. You can also raise your auger out of material if you have a partial load to keep it from freezing
@@mikep7810 thanks for the reply. I grew up on a dairy farm in Ireland. It's really interesting to see farming methods in different regions. I used to live by the airport in Philadelphia, then Texas and now Mississippi.
@@brianocallaghan7716 Wow that's interesting. You are really seeing a lot of different regions
We had a gehl scavenger that had the same style of unload and we had a lot of problems and couldn’t run hay thought it it clog up and just had a lot of problems
you had the single auger with the hydraulic lift?
completely agree
Headland Marten became the gehl then h&s and then???
mikep7810 yes it was the single auger and I think it had the lift but I didn’t think it worked it wasn’t a reliable spreader at all
we have a gehl scavenger but hoping to go to a meyer as we grow
Those Myer spreaders are sharp looking spreaders
Kuhn/knight definitely. Whats wrong with one you have just put new augers in it.
Its not the augers, the sides are becoming worn and coming apart. We've welded some spots already.
i’ll never go back to h&s now that i own a kuhn. twin auger is way better and even though the hammers suck to change the fingers on the h&s get manure frozen all over them and like to shear off pins
Thanks for the info on the H&S
Bear claws are nice though
They look pretty easy to replace
I’d go with the h&s hydraulic push manure. Spreader4155
We ended up going with a H&S V style spreader
I'd go with the knight I always felt they were built better last longer boys had good luck dealer was close by and everything
Lucky for us all 3 of them are right there dealership wise
I was told the top shot doesnt handle straw type manure as well as the kuhn
I wonder if that's because it only has the single auger
From Aus and we use a Nufab spreader for chicken and cattle manure
How do you like it?
Just from experience the hammers are a pain to replace and you will know when one goes out because is will make the spreader unbalanced and shake the tractor really bad, and second one auger at least on our older one the single auger does not do good at all at any kind of pack
I'm not sure how I feel about only one auger, weather you are able to move it or not
We have a nuhn 4000 magnum tank and a agco box spreader. Like the both.
Do you have a separator and use the box spreader for the solids?
@@mikep7810 we run pack pens for young heifers and closeup cows. The rest goes to a liquid pit. We chop all our bedding so it's fine.
That's cool, where abouts are you located?
@@mikep7810 in Ontario about a hour twenty minutes west of buffalo.
Oh cool. Hope you don't get hit too hard with snow this weekend!
Do you spread any liquid manure
No, we don't do liquid manure
We had a Knight but went to a Meyer spreader.
How do you like the Meyer compared to the Knight?
Did not like the Kuhn knight do to having weak rims and tires and the front unloads always got manure on the tractor. The Kuhn knights never handled pen pack very well. The Meyer is just a beast so far cause it handles everything we run through it and no manure going all over the tractor also the Meyer is easily greased
Thanks for sharing
Stick with the knight unless you want problems and lots of headaches
Gonna be an interesting decision
Kuhn Knight use ours everyday! The H&S or meyers can't beat a knight.
They are really nice spreaders
Which one is cheaper.
I didn't price the meyer but the H&S is cheaper then the Kuhn
we got a big ass hydraulic push meyer pulled by are 8520
That's cool, how do you like it?
mikep7810 love it only this is parts availability seems like dealer always behind
That makes it rough
I have a H&S box spreader with the chain
How do you like it?
@@mikep7810 it's alright, pretty sturdy. It was a cheaper replacement than other options. It's super light, but I have to layer the spreader with hay so that the manure doesn't run out where the chain goes down. I also have to make sure it's cleaned out well when it's cold outside.
Yeah its a pain in the butt once temperatures start freezing
Enjoy the video Mike .
Thank you Leo
What about a new combine
If I can find the right one for the right price
@@mikep7810 i look a lot on combines for sale john deere 9400 whats the best price for you i can check some out
Hey Mike my dad,bother and I use to use 3 dry manure spreaders an John deer 780 and a 550 and 530 internationals. We are looking for two use but still in good spade liquid manure spreaders
That's cool, how did you like going to liquid manure
we have an old badger and new holland
I remember being a young teenager spreading with an old new Holland spreader
Stay with the knight spreader
They do make nice spreaders
I would stay away from the H&S we have a H&S and we have a Kuhn knight and the Kuhn is way better for liquid and pen pack the H&S is not good for pen pack and on ours the oil brush does not work very good at all having 2 augers is a lot better than the just 1 so if I was you guys I would go with the Kuhn Knight.
North East Iowa Farming we have had similar problems
Thanks for sharing. Gonna be an interesting decision
I agree. Same experience. The hammers seem to give a little more with tougher manure rather than shearing bolts. Also, lowering the auger on some pen pack would break the chain. I've ran many loads through both and would pick the kuhn knight anyday.
Yes I have broke a few chains and seared bolts with pen pack you raise the auger up and bring it back down and if it comes down too fast you have yourself a problem
Kuhn knight my brother had the H&S it was really bad
Thanks for the advice
No one else is saying it. So I will. Please don't climb on them used shit buckets without gloves. And afterwords you rubbed your left eye. Other then that. great video thx!!
Thank you, didn't realize I did that
Mike the h&s is a lot like the gehl
I never ran a gehl, my uncle use to have one
@@mikep7810 not bad just have to clean the bottom pan out everyday in the winter or they freeze bad and cant run a lot of long hay through them
Good to know, thank you
V bottom and box spreaders new idea new Holland and gehl v bottom s
How do you like them
@@mikep7810 the gehl I thought was better
Kuhn Knight 8030 slinger
How do you like it?
mikep7810 we like it a lot just but new flighting in the lower auger and put a piece in between the hammers and the bottom of the chute and it flings out the manure real nice
Definitely get a chance to demo one first. I would try Myers for the money. They are all good spreaders. But the HS with the one auger if you haven't used it before give it a try before you buy. Have a great day
Yeah I'm excited for the New York State farm show next month to really get a good look at them all
Shut up stupid you don't even use your little box spreader quit trying to give advice on something you have no clue about just keep borrowing whatever your neighbor has
@@jasonleckrone2577 his big meyer is better than what OLF is using. So...
Ethan johansen Onelonleyfarmer also mention when he’s using others peoples equipment. Eric he wants everybody to think that he owns all that equipment when actually his neighbor does. For all we know he doesn’t even on his own land I bet his neighbor owns that and he rents it from him.
Here we have know nothing Eric from The Farming Life. Eric you don't even own a spreader. The ones you used are begged and borrowed from neighbors. He used to have that Meyer spreader he used to use, and can't get that one any more, probably for not paying the owner for using it. Now he was using a small Knight, but even that one isn't around anymore and he is dumping in on a pile or leaves it in the over crowded pens for the cattle to suffer in.
Just go away Eric.
Kuhn Knight
They are nice spreaders
Myers 5570
awesome
Kuhn Knight 8032,8141
How do you like them