@@miscreatedmonster2.022it means the civil engineers don't have enough money to make buildings beutiful and only focused on the foundation and safety of the buildings because of a tight budget
@@miscreatedmonster2.022 My professor explained it best. He was asked to build a bridge that spirals, he said it can only be done with a budget of 8 million when the actual budget is 2 million. It could not be built the way the owner wanted, so the project was modified to fit the criterea
All those pictures you've shown are works of art....done by architects. While the first one was designed by Santiago Calatrava, he took first his architecture degree before getting his civil engineering.
Wow! I didn't know that. To address your point, true, the structures are designed by architects and are often very daring and incredibly artistic. But there is a certain art in turning these ideas into reality which is where the artistry of the engineer comes in.
@@ThatCivilEngineer Civil Engineers are scientists. They are there to make the structures work for its aesthetic appearance composed by architects through structural conceptualization. If you claim that you have some art skills to support it, name me some art subjects in your civil engineering curriculum (if there's any) that will support it. I'm sure, technical drawing is not one of them as it only teach the standards of technical drawings to prepare you forvthe details of structure.
@@MindaDiaz 😔well when you put it like that... But I still think there is an artistry to solving unique/complicated design challenges. I guess I never thought of myself as a scientist!🤓
@@MindaDiaz you need a creative solution for the problems that come up so the art can stand do you think people that draw realistic portraits aren't artists???? 😂😂😂😂😂
@@ThatCivilEngineerna you are right some people lack brain people that draw realistic portraits are artists civil engineers create the crazy ideas people have without the engineering its just a crazy idea not art yet aret isnt what you have in your brain its what you have in reality
i don't understand why civil engineers are so underrated while architects are overrated. Like how is the architect's design gonna turn to reality without civil engineers?
A lot of people don't see what goes into designing a structure or "behind the scenes". Add to that that Civil Engineers don't market ourselves very well and you have a perfect recipe.
The twisting look is an architectural feature. The easiest buildings to structurally design are boring rectangle/squares! Which is why some people attribute structural engineering to being boring.
@@ThatCivilEngineer What are your thoughts on Rohe's International style of buildings? Surely the economic influence of mass production post WWII and german influence on engineering played a big role in this.
I honestly had to google Rohe's International style so I can't comment deeply on that. I can say on the financial side of things it's more cost effective to build a boring looking but easily constructed building. Also labor costs have significantly increased over the years so intricate detailing is not cost effective either. I don't know if mass production or German influence played a role in this.
My auntie is civil engineering 😊 ,I am getting ready for this degree l did enrolled my self in mathematics ,physics and engineering materials hopefully l can start soon my civil engineering degree and complete .
You got this! Make sure to ask you Aunt for tips, internships ideas and anything else! She'll be a valuable resource. Good luck and let me know if you have any questions!
@@ThatCivilEngineer I live in Australia now , my Auntie in Yemen , hopefully things goes well for what l am planing to do for the degree and work in Australia , if it didn't l may apply in Dubai or or any Arab country as there is no tax.
I would say it's a bit more restrained to sculpting (being that we're usually following an architect or some schematic). But it's definitely more that _"just math"_
@@ThatCivilEngineer I got those branch (in my country seat is ranked based through a competitive exam in top colleges) in a top rank college but choose civil over those. I don't like cement 😭. I like engineering fields where I can involve more into research. Give me some advice. I have a thought to higher study in the USA but now hearing that civil engineers are not valued/ demanded in usa or any western country.
Concrete is only one small part of Civil Engineering. The benefit of a Civil Engineering Degree is it's versatility. You can pick any subcategory of civil engineering to go into. I wouldn't say Civil Engineers are not valued. The job market is pretty hot right now. I would say that CE are not paid a lot compared to other degrees. You will have a comfortable salary with good benefits though. If you find CE fulfilling you'll definitely get a 6 figure income within 7-10 years. CE won't be making over 200k (with some exceptions). Also keep in mind that with a CE degree you can always go into project management (or really any career field) which does make more money. Hope this rant helps!
@@ThatCivilEngineer Hey dude, thanks for your kind reply and for your time. I'm studying in India and have a dream to move abroad like USA for higher study. But some of my friends say only UAE has demand for CE . I also don't see a lot of videos related to CE in USA. What's the scope of foreign CE graduates in the USA, like for getting a college for ms or then finding jobs !? Thanks again. I appreciate you 🙏!
I don't know what you mean by "what is the scope of foreign CE graduates". I think it would be the same as any gradate. To perform CE. I know there were a lot of international students who were getting their master's when I was at NYU and most of them were looking for jobs while still in school.
Good job! We are a big b2b supplier and selling EPDM membrane which can not be avoided by civil construction. If you have the purchase plan, we are pleased to make a relationship with you.
@@ThatCivilEngineer hi im in high school, what should i focus on to prep for the field? I pay close attention to math (Algebra i, geometry, algebra ii, next yr precalc), and do robotics + soon ACE program.
Sounds like you're off to a great start! Having a strong fundamental math background is really important. Algebra and Geometry are really useful in Engineering. If you can take a physics course that would also be really helpful for college. 👍
think of civil engineering or engineering in general as playing a puzzle as chess, you are constricted to your boundaries.,, hence solving math to fit all day. but think of creative field such as architecture as designing a new game. @danielbressler i understand your sentiment that you want to salvage civil engineering to bring it up but really its a stretch to say to bring in creativity debate . civil engineering is a type of deadbeat place for young creative minds like yourself. it is really at lowest of engineering fields. service based profession with easy math knowledge required and barrier to entry is low. you can't really make it in life with this one unless you are in a country where bribery runs the construction together with government's help. if you are in the US, its impossible.
Interesting take and you make a bunch of valid points. I disagree with the part that you can't make it in life without bribery. Will you become a extremely rich doing civil engineering, no. But can you live comfortably at a consistent job within a (relatively) consistent market, yes.
It really depends. On some projects, yes, it's purely a math problem but in other projects there is a challenge that needs a unique and often creative solution.
in that sense, almost everyone's field is creative because they have to be creative to get something done which is challenging and unique.@@ThatCivilEngineer Civil engineering doesn't tickle your creative side as a field.
Very true. I would say that since we work alongside architects we get a "second-hand" creative-tickle. But you're not wrong. This isn't an art degree at all.
You've disagreed. You've made an assertion. You've rebuttaled opposing arguments. But you've backed up no statement that you have said. This video is purely: "I think civil engineering is art. I disagree with those who disagree. We think and solve problems." *the end*
civil engineering is boring, other engineering majors use dynamic materials while civil uses static physics. id say they are creative but other engineer majors having more unique and dynamic problem solving.
Can't argue with the dynamics part but there are parts of civil, and for me structural, that are more nuanced. For example, if the structure is existing then specific details need to be taken into account to allow for a practical design. I would also slightly push back that earthquakes and wind are dynamic loads. (There are also impact loads but those are not typical in structures for the most part.) I agree that these loads are not as dynamic as Mechanical and our Safety Factors are WAAAAAY higher though! But for the other parts of CE you are probably correct in terms of static vs dynamic loading. But those other types of CE take terrain and other factors into consideration which have their own challenges.
People say civil engineering isn't creative
I say budget is tight
Lol! To True!
Can you elaborate please
@@miscreatedmonster2.022it means the civil engineers don't have enough money to make buildings beutiful and only focused on the foundation and safety of the buildings because of a tight budget
@@miscreatedmonster2.022 My professor explained it best. He was asked to build a bridge that spirals, he said it can only be done with a budget of 8 million when the actual budget is 2 million. It could not be built the way the owner wanted, so the project was modified to fit the criterea
@@miscreatedmonster2.022cities and land developers are cheap af, America has failuing infrastructure, lack of money is the problem
Proud to be a civil engineer
Awesome!
Confirmo con el desconocido, es un orgullo ser ingeniero civil
Engineering is the best 💪
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All those pictures you've shown are works of art....done by architects. While the first one was designed by Santiago Calatrava, he took first his architecture degree before getting his civil engineering.
Wow! I didn't know that.
To address your point, true, the structures are designed by architects and are often very daring and incredibly artistic. But there is a certain art in turning these ideas into reality which is where the artistry of the engineer comes in.
@@ThatCivilEngineer Civil Engineers are scientists. They are there to make the structures work for its aesthetic appearance composed by architects through structural conceptualization. If you claim that you have some art skills to support it, name me some art subjects in your civil engineering curriculum (if there's any) that will support it. I'm sure, technical drawing is not one of them as it only teach the standards of technical drawings to prepare you forvthe details of structure.
@@MindaDiaz 😔well when you put it like that...
But I still think there is an artistry to solving unique/complicated design challenges. I guess I never thought of myself as a scientist!🤓
@@MindaDiaz you need a creative solution for the problems that come up so the art can stand do you think people that draw realistic portraits aren't artists???? 😂😂😂😂😂
@@ThatCivilEngineerna you are right some people lack brain people that draw realistic portraits are artists civil engineers create the crazy ideas people have without the engineering its just a crazy idea not art yet aret isnt what you have in your brain its what you have in reality
i don't understand why civil engineers are so underrated while architects are overrated. Like how is the architect's design gonna turn to reality without civil engineers?
A lot of people don't see what goes into designing a structure or "behind the scenes". Add to that that Civil Engineers don't market ourselves very well and you have a perfect recipe.
Well... some Architects have some egos because they take all the credit, and thinking all other professionals out there are below them.
Epic pictures 🌟
Is there a practical purpose for the twisting look of the buildings in the pics or is it purely aesthetic?
The twisting look is an architectural feature. The easiest buildings to structurally design are boring rectangle/squares! Which is why some people attribute structural engineering to being boring.
@@ThatCivilEngineer What are your thoughts on Rohe's International style of buildings? Surely the economic influence of mass production post WWII and german influence on engineering played a big role in this.
I honestly had to google Rohe's International style so I can't comment deeply on that.
I can say on the financial side of things it's more cost effective to build a boring looking but easily constructed building. Also labor costs have significantly increased over the years so intricate detailing is not cost effective either.
I don't know if mass production or German influence played a role in this.
artist use ink civil engineer use earth,water,fire and wind --- to build an obra maestra
Water. Earth. Fire. Air.
We are the masters of all elements!
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My auntie is civil engineering 😊 ,I am getting ready for this degree l did enrolled my self in mathematics ,physics and engineering materials hopefully l can start soon my civil engineering degree and complete .
You got this!
Make sure to ask you Aunt for tips, internships ideas and anything else! She'll be a valuable resource.
Good luck and let me know if you have any questions!
@@ThatCivilEngineer I live in Australia now , my Auntie in Yemen , hopefully things goes well for what l am planing to do for the degree and work in Australia , if it didn't l may apply in Dubai or or any Arab country as there is no tax.
Best of luck! Sounds like you got this!
Civil engineering is best ❤
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I agree, I find civil engineering as some kind of art, maybe similar to sculpting.
I would say it's a bit more restrained to sculpting (being that we're usually following an architect or some schematic).
But it's definitely more that _"just math"_
Show me that you have a curriculum for art subject. I'm sure architecture has it as it is the mother of all arts.
I'm in Civil engineering freshman year. Skipped materials, production, chemical engineering without proper research. I'm so depressed now!😢
Depressed as a freshman? oh boy...
What do you mean "Skipped materials, production, chemical engineering without proper research"?
@@ThatCivilEngineer I got those branch (in my country seat is ranked based through a competitive exam in top colleges) in a top rank college but choose civil over those. I don't like cement 😭. I like engineering fields where I can involve more into research. Give me some advice. I have a thought to higher study in the USA but now hearing that civil engineers are not valued/ demanded in usa or any western country.
Concrete is only one small part of Civil Engineering. The benefit of a Civil Engineering Degree is it's versatility. You can pick any subcategory of civil engineering to go into.
I wouldn't say Civil Engineers are not valued. The job market is pretty hot right now. I would say that CE are not paid a lot compared to other degrees. You will have a comfortable salary with good benefits though. If you find CE fulfilling you'll definitely get a 6 figure income within 7-10 years. CE won't be making over 200k (with some exceptions).
Also keep in mind that with a CE degree you can always go into project management (or really any career field) which does make more money.
Hope this rant helps!
@@ThatCivilEngineer Hey dude, thanks for your kind reply and for your time.
I'm studying in India and have a dream to move abroad like USA for higher study. But some of my friends say only UAE has demand for CE . I also don't see a lot of videos related to CE in USA.
What's the scope of foreign CE graduates in the USA, like for getting a college for ms or then finding jobs !?
Thanks again. I appreciate you 🙏!
I don't know what you mean by "what is the scope of foreign CE graduates". I think it would be the same as any gradate. To perform CE. I know there were a lot of international students who were getting their master's when I was at NYU and most of them were looking for jobs while still in school.
Agree 👍👍
Good job! We are a big b2b supplier and selling EPDM membrane which can not be avoided by civil construction. If you have the purchase plan, we are pleased to make a relationship with you.
Thank you but I don't think this is for me.
I'm a sophomore in CE. I'm about to drink a huge amount of engineering knowledge.
Good Luck! You got this!
I am learning to become a civil engineer
That's awesome! What year are you in?
@@ThatCivilEngineer hi im in high school, what should i focus on to prep for the field?
I pay close attention to math (Algebra i, geometry, algebra ii, next yr precalc), and do robotics + soon ACE program.
Sounds like you're off to a great start! Having a strong fundamental math background is really important. Algebra and Geometry are really useful in Engineering. If you can take a physics course that would also be really helpful for college. 👍
In future i want to be a civil engineer. Its my dream
You can do it!
think of civil engineering or engineering in general as playing a puzzle as chess, you are constricted to your boundaries.,, hence solving math to fit all day. but think of creative field such as architecture as designing a new game. @danielbressler i understand your sentiment that you want to salvage civil engineering to bring it up but really its a stretch to say to bring in creativity debate . civil engineering is a type of deadbeat place for young creative minds like yourself. it is really at lowest of engineering fields. service based profession with easy math knowledge required and barrier to entry is low. you can't really make it in life with this one unless you are in a country where bribery runs the construction together with government's help. if you are in the US, its impossible.
Interesting take and you make a bunch of valid points. I disagree with the part that you can't make it in life without bribery. Will you become a extremely rich doing civil engineering, no. But can you live comfortably at a consistent job within a (relatively) consistent market, yes.
Isn't it true for every engineering though?
Yes. But with Structural Engineering specifically, there's a direct comparison to an architect.
civil engineering is not a creative field. its mostly about making sure the math is right. you have the wrong idea.
It really depends. On some projects, yes, it's purely a math problem but in other projects there is a challenge that needs a unique and often creative solution.
in that sense, almost everyone's field is creative because they have to be creative to get something done which is challenging and unique.@@ThatCivilEngineer Civil engineering doesn't tickle your creative side as a field.
Very true. I would say that since we work alongside architects we get a "second-hand" creative-tickle.
But you're not wrong. This isn't an art degree at all.
That looks like the twin fower dont judge of ny grammar plss
I guess the angle does make it look like that.
You've disagreed. You've made an assertion.
You've rebuttaled opposing arguments.
But you've backed up no statement that you have said. This video is purely: "I think civil engineering is art. I disagree with those who disagree. We think and solve problems." *the end*
ΣF = 0 😭
Poetic
civil engineering is boring, other engineering majors use dynamic materials while civil uses static physics. id say they are creative but other engineer majors having more unique and dynamic problem solving.
Can't argue with the dynamics part but there are parts of civil, and for me structural, that are more nuanced. For example, if the structure is existing then specific details need to be taken into account to allow for a practical design.
I would also slightly push back that earthquakes and wind are dynamic loads. (There are also impact loads but those are not typical in structures for the most part.) I agree that these loads are not as dynamic as Mechanical and our Safety Factors are WAAAAAY higher though!
But for the other parts of CE you are probably correct in terms of static vs dynamic loading. But those other types of CE take terrain and other factors into consideration which have their own challenges.