That’s awesome! It this one working the right speed? We thought maybe something is going on with the pump but maybe that’s all the faster they ever went lol
This video doesn’t really do justice to the noise factor. That 5” pipe is sitting right on top of the turbo of a 380hp 855 2” cam Cummins. Out in the open it was ok, but digging through the woods or near buildings, she was deafening!
@@ScrappyIndustries I had an old girlfriend whose father was a swimming pool contractor years ago. He had the smaller Bucyrus Erie 15H and I thought that was loud.
I’m sure it was! They were trying to innovate I wonder where those first gen hydraulic machines went wrong trying to keep up with the foreign machines.
That’s an argument as old as time lol depends who you ask. I personally don’t pay much mind to it on my own equipment. One pro to working over the sprocket is not putting any force on the track tensioner
With the drives in the rear, the machine is officially in the correct configuration for forward travelling. The reason for this is the tread belt is stretched tight under the machine, with only one loaded flex point. Reverse travel adds 2 more loaded flex points, with the added hazard of the track piling up between the tumbler and the rearward lower roller in soft ground. In short, the undercarriage wears faster in reverse than going forward. When doing heavy lifting, there is a slight increase in lifting capacity, but in light digging as shown, it’s not worth the effort to turn the lower works around.
Lots of debate over this issue. Probably the most important yet lesser known reasons for having the drives out back is from a safety point and that is if you get into a sketchy/panic situation the travel controls are orientated correctly. IE you don't have to second guess the direction you are going to move when you need to act fast. Others like , less wear, more counterweight arguments also apply.
And all the time watching where people are on the ground and at times having to go over their heads with big buddle of r bar. Which is harder to handle that some things like a beam
that machine is in great shape. Ive got a Hy-hoe 685B excavator and some friction rigs. Looked at a 2000hr 15h excavator a few months back but its been sitting a long time and in rough shape. check out my channel
I looked in my parts book and through my sales literature, and no machines were equipped with catwalks beyond those shown in the video. The parts list shows no items were available to widen the upper works any more than what we’re looking at. So it is my opinion that if you saw a 40H thus equipped, it would have been a owner-fabricated assembly. That being said, that doesn’t mean she didn’t need them! I keep a short piece of ladder on the house right behind the cab, so I can set on the track and climb onto the hydraulic tank .
@@richardmaurer9002 I ran a 40-H which most definitely had catwalks on it which were wooden plank on both sides from the cab back to the counterweight and on the opposite side to. I have a picture of me on it somewhere which clearly shows them. We replaced them once when we repainted the machine. I have seen other ones periodically also and they all had the same catwalks on them also. Some had the Detroit 12 V 71 in them but the one I ran had a Cummins like yours.
Scott, whereabouts did you work it? We were digging hard shale near Cleveland Ohio with a Parsons 355 trencher equipped with carbide-tipped teeth on the buckets. At one point we were getting 1 pipe (16” water line) per day. We tried a Insley 3000, a big American, then a Lorain 48H, and finally the 40H . And she cut through that stuff. She wasn’t fast , but when she crowded, you were guaranteed to come up with a bucketful of something, be it dirt , rock , or an 8” gas main
Havent seen one of these 40s working in years. Good to see! Thanks for posting. Love the old iron.
Thanks for watching!
I spent a lot of hours in the seat of Bucyrus -Erie backhoes, the 40-H was a beast.
That’s awesome! It this one working the right speed? We thought maybe something is going on with the pump but maybe that’s all the faster they ever went lol
Awesome to see this B-E 40-H excavator working! Look forward to seeing it in person next time I go to Brownsville.
Thats a cool piece of history!
Working & digging...that she was made for...keep her in good shape & she’ll last for decades
This video doesn’t really do justice to the noise factor. That 5” pipe is sitting right on top of the turbo of a 380hp 855 2” cam Cummins. Out in the open it was ok, but digging through the woods or near buildings, she was deafening!
She does sound good!
Well, I thought so, but the city of Westlake, Ohio soon forbade us to start digging before 8 am weekdays.
@@ScrappyIndustries I had an old girlfriend whose father was a swimming pool contractor years ago. He had the smaller Bucyrus Erie 15H and I thought that was loud.
That machine is a cool piece of history plus a real strong machines.
Nice!! My dad had two 20H machines with Detroits
My dad's got that model and paint job exactly sitting in the yard.
Love to have a go at it. I've operated excavators for 35 plus. But never right hand drive. I wonder why they are right hand back then
That's an dieseloolic...😅😅😅 Love that machines good times ❤
It was actually a good thing the Japanese took these machines apart and approved on them.
It would be so cool to see that in person!
Come see it May 15-16 at the National Pike Steam Gas and Horse Association in Brownsville, PA!
Boy excavators have come a long way. Absolutely no chinese parts on this one. Hell, I bet it 100% designed with a slide rule and a pencil
I’m sure it was! They were trying to innovate I wonder where those first gen hydraulic machines went wrong trying to keep up with the foreign machines.
very clumsy design compared to european machines of the time, the worst thing being the mechanical tracks
Who was better in 1973?
....and the tracks on the 40-H are hydraulic.
@@hjorleifuringason2778Tracks mechanical with chain drive, as on friction machines? Swing also mechanical?
👍 nice Buckeye
That bucket is a bit big 😆😆😆😆
I’m sure that ole girl has got a story or to to tell.
I sure with the right operator it. Would ..keep up with a current model of its size .
Where is this show?
It’s in Brownsville, PA. National Pike Steam Gas and Horse Association. The spring show is this May 15-16
He is digging over the drive wheels. Isn't the undercarriage supposed to be turned in the opposite direction?
That’s an argument as old as time lol depends who you ask. I personally don’t pay much mind to it on my own equipment. One pro to working over the sprocket is not putting any force on the track tensioner
With the drives in the rear, the machine is officially in the correct configuration for forward travelling. The reason for this is the tread belt is stretched tight under the machine, with only one loaded flex point. Reverse travel adds 2 more loaded flex points, with the added hazard of the track piling up between the tumbler and the rearward lower roller in soft ground. In short, the undercarriage wears faster in reverse than going forward. When doing heavy lifting, there is a slight increase in lifting capacity, but in light digging as shown, it’s not worth the effort to turn the lower works around.
Lots of debate over this issue. Probably the most important yet lesser known reasons for having the drives out back is from a safety point and that is if you get into a sketchy/panic situation the travel controls are orientated correctly. IE you don't have to second guess the direction you are going to move when you need to act fast. Others like , less wear, more counterweight arguments also apply.
Yes, but as counter weight in heavy applications and to keep green operators from smacking them with the bucket.
Most modern excavators are longer from the center point to the idles and shorter to the final drives, hence being more stable over the idlers.
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And all the time watching where people are on the ground and at times having to go over their heads with big buddle of r bar. Which is harder to handle that some things like a beam
Gee the body paint work looks like the old kato colors.
The old BE colors were green and grey. They switched to maroon and cream in the late 40s I believe
@@ScrappyIndustries thanks mate. Wow back in the 40s. Excavator s haven't changed much. They are just alot faster and total comfort.
New boom arm
They dont make excavators like this anymore, if i ever get my hands on one of these im gonna sink so much money in to it to make it a permanent digger
that machine is in great shape. Ive got a Hy-hoe 685B excavator and some friction rigs. Looked at a 2000hr 15h excavator a few months back but its been sitting a long time and in rough shape. check out my channel
Definitely needs the car walks out back on.
They ARE on. See the maroon part?
@@richardmaurer9002 no catwalks on that machine. Not on the right side anyway.
I looked in my parts book and through my sales literature, and no machines were equipped with catwalks beyond those shown in the video. The parts list shows no items were available to widen the upper works any more than what we’re looking at. So it is my opinion that if you saw a 40H thus equipped, it would have been a owner-fabricated assembly. That being said, that doesn’t mean she didn’t need them! I keep a short piece of ladder on the house right behind the cab, so I can set on the track and climb onto the hydraulic tank .
@@richardmaurer9002 I ran a 40-H which most definitely had catwalks on it which were wooden plank on both sides from the cab back to the counterweight and on the opposite side to. I have a picture of me on it somewhere which clearly shows them. We replaced them once when we repainted the machine. I have seen other ones periodically also and they all had the same catwalks on them also. Some had the Detroit 12 V 71 in them but the one I ran had a Cummins like yours.
Scott, whereabouts did you work it? We were digging hard shale near Cleveland Ohio with a Parsons 355 trencher equipped with carbide-tipped teeth on the buckets. At one point we were getting 1 pipe (16” water line) per day. We tried a Insley 3000, a big American, then a Lorain 48H, and finally the 40H . And she cut through that stuff. She wasn’t fast , but when she crowded, you were guaranteed to come up with a bucketful of something, be it dirt , rock , or an 8” gas main
Slow and unsuccessful even though it is English
They dont make excavators like this anymore, if i ever get my hands on one of these im gonna sink so much money in to it to make it a permanent digger