"Pro Style" vs "Spread" The Battle for the FUTURE of college football

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ม.ค. 2025
  • In the 2000s the Spread offense started to takeover college football and in it's way was the Pro style offenses of the time creating one of the most important rivalry in college football.

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  • @abakella
    @abakella 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    As a Stanford fan, I remember those rivalry years with Oregon vividly. It was characterized by both teams ruining each other’s seasons multiple times
    I've also always considered Oregon's program to be a model that Stanford should follow, due to the Nike connection

  • @anthonyclark9441
    @anthonyclark9441 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Gotta give Rich Rodriguez his credit. His West Virginia Teams ised to give people fits. As long as he had the Players to fit the System, his Teams were dangerous.

    • @loganseawright1173
      @loganseawright1173 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As a Jax State fan I have to appreciate what Rich Rod has done for my school

    • @GiantsHunt
      @GiantsHunt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is the real innovator
      Chip Kelly just refined what Rich invented and had the recruiting power to maximize it

    • @BennyNegroFromQueens
      @BennyNegroFromQueens 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@GiantsHuntthats like saying Bill Walsh just refined what Paul Brown did.

  • @7kingztrading494
    @7kingztrading494 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

    The Spread is easier to teach, and because you don't have the elite speed at every position like you do in the NFL it creates lots of holes in the defense... which makes it a perfect offense to run in college. But in the NFL you have to manipulate the LBs or it's going to being very difficult to throw the ball. So play action is very important in the NFL. You can execute play action out of the Gun, but it's way more effective when the QB turns his back to the defense...and turning his back allows for your O-Line to show run, before dropping into pass blocking. So the Pro style offense works in college and the pros, while the spread is pretty much a college offense. And I mean, both coaches took their philosophies to the NFL and one went to a Super Bowl...the other didn't last long enough to buy a house.😂

    • @jordanmcclom6234
      @jordanmcclom6234 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You could argue that spread offenses in the nfl have won the majority of the most recent super bowls

    • @7kingztrading494
      @7kingztrading494 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@jordanmcclom6234 if you think 2x2 and 3x1 formations equate to the spread, them yes. But if you know football, that's not the case. The spread is pretty much zone reads and play action off that. That's not the Chief's offense. Most of their running game is under center and they spread you out to throw the ball...but the pass game is more West Coast philosophies.

    • @jordanmcclom6234
      @jordanmcclom6234 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@7kingztrading494 spread offense is literally just a formation set. You can be power run but if you operate out of 2x2 and 3x1 formations that is spread by definition. West coast pass is spread, air raid is spread, veer and shoot is spread, all of those offense are sun categories of modern day spread

    • @jordanmcclom6234
      @jordanmcclom6234 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@7kingztrading494 you look at majority of nfl offenses right now it’s spread Washington is doing it, chiefs have been doing it, Arizona does it, the Shannan tree with the newer coaches like McDaniel, KOC, Mcvay I would argue they are all spread as well

    • @7kingztrading494
      @7kingztrading494 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jordanmcclom6234 Washington & Arizona are probably the only teams that do it. The Shanahan tree is basically Mike McDaniels and he nor Shanahan do it. And the Chiefs don't do it. You don't understand offense if you think 2x2 and 3x1 equates to the spread offense.

  • @Xbusk
    @Xbusk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Such a great and well put together and thought out video! Props

    • @TrashMonkeySports
      @TrashMonkeySports  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you.

    • @wokkdied
      @wokkdied 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nah bro said andrew luck is a future hof he doesnt know ball

    • @TrashMonkeySports
      @TrashMonkeySports  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wokkdied Yeah cause you've never made a single mistake in your life huh? I got news for you everyone who makes videos or says shit into a mic has said dumb and incorrect shit. It doesn't mean they don't know what they are talking about sometimes mistakes just happen.

  • @jonnovak6856
    @jonnovak6856 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Urban Meyer and Dan Mullen were running the spread at Florida from 2005-2010, 4 years before Kelly @ Oregon. They were also together at Utah and Bowling Green before that. They did pretty good two with two national championships and a Heisman.

    • @BennyNegroFromQueens
      @BennyNegroFromQueens 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nobody cares about Bowling Green guy. And using Tim Tebow as a kamakazee is not a "spread".

  • @Cathcart66
    @Cathcart66 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The waste thing that ever happened to the spread offense was the rule that allows teams to wait for substitutions

    • @TheRealJacobWhite
      @TheRealJacobWhite 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They only have to when they sub

  • @SpankinYaBoy
    @SpankinYaBoy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I thought this was going to be more of a breakdown of what each offense is and the strength/weakness of each.

    • @TrashMonkeySports
      @TrashMonkeySports  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was the original idea. I just didn't have the time to do it the way it should have been done. This video will likely be redone in the future to be what it was supposed to be.

  • @djsmiley410
    @djsmiley410 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah the flexbone offensive is basically a spread pro offense you can still still run pro style but add some spread concepts in it too

    • @TrashMonkeySports
      @TrashMonkeySports  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My point was the old school triple option isn't really around anymore in D I and i felt a similar thing was happening to the "Pro Style" offenses I grew up watching. Obviously I could have conveyed that in a better way. We still see the triple option throughout the college game but it's taken on a different form as most of CFB is operated out of the gun now. So the main point was the Spread offense that operates almost exclusively out of the gun had taken over and the I formation and the under center power running approach was quickly going extinct.

    • @Ender-x2n
      @Ender-x2n 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s not. Not even close.

    • @Gillespie28
      @Gillespie28 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ender-x2nyou can operate it like one though if you choose too

    • @Gardenstategreat1225
      @Gardenstategreat1225 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ender-x2nthat’s because you’re understanding of a spread offense is wrong. Flexbone is considered a form of the spread option. Listen to any coach talk about it. A spread offense is all about spreading the field and creating mismatches. They also use all means to get athletes into space. Thats exactly what the flexbone does. They take the same principles but use the run game as the catalyst. This is why their o line splits are so wide. This is why they use motion heavily. A spread offense is passing all over. Thats air raid. Lots of crossover. But you can quickly look it up and see coaches refer to it as a form of a spread offense.

    • @Ender-x2n
      @Ender-x2n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Gardenstategreat1225 My comment was about the flexbone being a “pro” offense, not a spread offense. You dont see triple option concepts at the pro level unless they’re RPOs because most defenses are way too fast and athletic.
      I’m aware the flexbone spreads people out, otherwise it would be the wishbone.

  • @rodmma1707
    @rodmma1707 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Pro Style with Spread gotta have both 3rd and 1 shotgun runs kill me

  • @milessak1738
    @milessak1738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Andrew Luck is not a future HOFer lol

  • @robertkeller3835
    @robertkeller3835 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that was a not a play action pass at 6:01

  • @trizzgreenery
    @trizzgreenery 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pro style spread = in todays world it’s the same thing

  • @ExplorinInTheWoods
    @ExplorinInTheWoods 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thumbs up for Toby gerhart. I don’t care about the rest of the video

    • @willl7780
      @willl7780 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      guy was insane....im a duck fan and i remember that game...

  • @Muddybagclean
    @Muddybagclean 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Jesus Loves You

  • @robertkeller3835
    @robertkeller3835 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Luck is not a hall of famer

  • @IvTHstreet
    @IvTHstreet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Andrew Luck isn’t a HOF

    • @TrashMonkeySports
      @TrashMonkeySports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah, I can't believe I said something so dumb disregard that stupidity. He is a college football HOF though.

    • @willl7780
      @willl7780 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TrashMonkeySports yes

    • @jsm530
      @jsm530 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TrashMonkeySportsyes he is unforgettable at Stanford. He was an all-star QB but he retired.