Linux Gaming: Does the Kernel Really Matter?

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    0:00 - Intro
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    00:55 - Which Kernels are we using?
    01:19 - Cyberpunk 2077
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    06:18 - Rainbow six siege
    07:51 - Red Dead Redemption 2
    08:56 - Which Kernel Should you use?
    10:25 - Outro
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  • @linuxnext
    @linuxnext  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    sorry for the bad quality i recorded in 720p then encoded in 1440p lol

    • @Mitsumata
      @Mitsumata 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      еблн хспд

  • @perfishfan
    @perfishfan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Always funny to see how mainline outperforms many of these "performance" patched kernels

  • @nico1337
    @nico1337 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for the comparison. Personally, I've used Zen before and still using it after this video. It would be interesting if you could also compare it to the TKG kernels as they are also "made for gaming"

  • @Kris-od3sj
    @Kris-od3sj วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why haven't I seen this video before?
    This seems like a very good benchmark 👍 straight to the point and showcases 1% lows - something that many benchmarks fail to showcase. Perhaps it'd be worth to measure 0.1% lows in your future videos as well, in order to spot rarer stutters.
    I'd take 1% lows of The Finals with a grain of salt, since the testing was done manually, as opposed to a scripted benchmarking scene that's always identical.

  • @zatsando
    @zatsando 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    As far as I understand the kernel doesn't really matter, all their differences are within the margin of error. Except probably if you are using a very old kernel version, you are good to go with whatever your distro ships with.

    • @n.m4497
      @n.m4497 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The most insane shit I've ever read. The kernel mages tons of operations and drivers. The fuck you mean you can use an old one and have a similar experience

    • @AndRei-yc3ti
      @AndRei-yc3ti 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@n.m4497 stock kernel is pretty well optimized nowadays. You wont notice much difference and it gets alot of improvements from other kernels now too

    • @v00017
      @v00017 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@n.m4497 best reading comprehension on the internet.

    • @mparagames
      @mparagames 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@n.m4497i mean i'd say just use newest stable stock tbh

    • @narwhal4304
      @narwhal4304 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@n.m4497To be fair, the comment said "As far as I understand..." and also "Except probably if you are using a very old kernel version..." but cool to see some people in the Linux community don't bother to properly educate someone in a respectful manner and just get angry.

  • @Shrek_Boi5155
    @Shrek_Boi5155 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    im running Debian 12 bookworm with the backports kernel so version 6.6 instead of the default 6.1

  • @KajzerD
    @KajzerD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quick question since you're doing Linux content. When I'm on Arch linux, I can build OBS VKCapture for both 32bit and 64bit using AUR, and that's working great. However, when I'm using OpenSUSE, Fedora, Debian, I can't get OBS VKCapture to work for 32bit applications, because VKCapture won't build 32bit plugin. I tried various stuff but none of them worked in the end. Sure, I can Flatpak apps and then use VKCapture, but I prefer using native linux apps when possible, I'm not a huge fan of Flatpaks. I wonder if you had some similar experiences, or you know some way to manually build 32bit OBS VKCapture plugin. Thanks

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember using a vkcapture build from the opensuse build website
      build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:regataos/obs-studio-plugin-vkcapture
      I dont remember if i needed 32bit or not for it to work, as the games i was capturing were working just fine

    • @KajzerD
      @KajzerD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@linuxnext I guess I'll try it one more time. Thanks

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KajzerD yeah this is another reason why i like arch as i dont need to go and build it myself through github, i can just use the aur lol, but opensuse has that build service and people seem to be actively maintain packages unlike copr on fedora for things like vkcapture

    • @KajzerD
      @KajzerD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@linuxnext I just found out that Fedora apparently has VKCapture in their official repos. Might give that a try and see if they have 32bit capture working. I used to run Fedora always because it was painless experience every time. I might have to revisit it again

  • @destroyerimo
    @destroyerimo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hey man, nice aim!

  • @s0ww0s
    @s0ww0s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I use the zen kernel since I made the switch to linux. :)

  • @omegadaverddavidhidalgo6662
    @omegadaverddavidhidalgo6662 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is the hardware you used for this test?

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ryzen 3700x, rx 6700 10BGB, all stock

  • @asunavk69
    @asunavk69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just use lts kernel, i have laptop, is battery life good or as good on zen?

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Uuuh i wouldnt know, i dont use zen on a laptop, this is about performance not battery life

    • @MF2_ETaube
      @MF2_ETaube 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      6.6 LTS is great for battery. But it all depends on the processor, Intel, AMD. AMD performs better on complete lastest, over here for me, I have Fedora Rawhide so 6.9 RC2 really bleeding edge works insanely good.

    • @asunavk69
      @asunavk69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MF2_ETaube isee but yeah as recent as that is a bit of a strech, but thanks for sharing xd

  • @sporefergieboy10
    @sporefergieboy10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like cs:go 128 tick 300 fps would be a good test. Or a >100 player minecraft server. I don’t imagine cyberpunk needs to hit the kernel that much other than draw calls. You can avoid doing too many system calls with the latest graphics API’s anyway. Server stuff esp. minecraft is all serial and touches the kernel a lot.
    Also use strace to see how many system calls there are. Do a histogram of that it would be cool. I think you could maybe measure system call latency. You might have to do shared library injection or something though to do that.
    I expect big BIG things in the next video.

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you're gonna expect big things you're gonna be disappointed lol, good ideas tho

    • @sporefergieboy10
      @sporefergieboy10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@linuxnext you’re gonna time those syscalls

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sporefergieboy10 nah :)

    • @slavic_commonwealth
      @slavic_commonwealth 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A great comment, I agree!

  • @fran8442
    @fran8442 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    kernel sanders. that's the best one

  • @Italian_Isaac_Clarke
    @Italian_Isaac_Clarke 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bro, up the bitrate, I can't read anything!

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i said i recorded in 720p at 10k bitrate by accident and then encoded in 1440p so it looks blurry, it doesnt rlly matter anyways, just use zen or tkg

  • @izur1890
    @izur1890 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What the linux are you use now?

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Endeavour os

  • @CDMS_pt
    @CDMS_pt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Stock is the best overall.

  • @GreenStaple
    @GreenStaple 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is the point of presenting the maximum?

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's interesting to see which kernel can outperform one another with the hardware i have? Im bottlenecked aswell so it can be interesting to see which can perform better on cpu dependent games

  • @ParthyFrez
    @ParthyFrez 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nihil in rhw background

  • @MrHyde911
    @MrHyde911 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The sound is a bit low

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i see, ill make sure to make it a bit louder next time :)

    • @MrHyde911
      @MrHyde911 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@linuxnext thanks for the contents

  • @Nullarino
    @Nullarino 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i learn

  • @rocklinks
    @rocklinks 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cachyos kernel is best for me

  • @Bunuffin
    @Bunuffin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is no real reason to use custom kernels, thanks to Valve stock kernel is all you need... At lest for gaming

  • @m.m.3753
    @m.m.3753 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Linux is for lowend gamer, if you want quality like all new Features from nvidia, only windows is the way. Nvidia, HDR, VRR, RTX HDR, DLSS Rayreconstruction, Framegeneratin, GPU undervolting or OC, all together you dont get it at once in linux. Even in 2030 you wont get. The communtity is big on linux but they dont put the efford together. Also to much distros, then not equal kernel version, moddified kernels.... Wayland, x11 or much more, whats the right to choose. Noway, stay away as a gamer from linux if you want quality gaming. And think about, over 80% own nvidia cards! If nvidia dont make the step to linux, linux will never be No. 1 for gaming / desktop. Truth prove: over 20 years they only hit 4% of users, mostly thanks to VALVE! I know truth hurts. But dont fool yourself, accept it. Time comes for Linux gaming, but this i say for now over 25 years...

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Uuuuh, i think you live under a rock lol
      We have hdr, vrr, rtx, dlss
      Sure we don't have rtx hdr or Ray reconstruction or framegen but who rlly needs that?
      You can also undervolt and oc, i know you can do it on amd and there are great tools for that
      I think again you live under a rock, nvidia is improving there drivers on linux, bringing wayland support this month, big companies like redhat and contributors are working on nvk a open source driver that will soon be on par with the amd drivers
      And also with the market share, linux was at like 1% in desktop, now its a 4% in just under 2 years, think about that, that's another 2 or so million users that are now using linux, and its not stopping
      And you must understand that linux desktop was not even a thing rlly in the last 25 years, you do know that linux is used on 80% of servers worldwide right? That means there using a terminal right? So that also explains why linux desktop has been at 1%, gui software being not available also why it was a 1%, figuring out a good package manager that worked across all distros and doesnt break was why it was at 1%
      There are so many factors that come into why linux desktop is at 4% now and isnt stopping but you did basically zero research before commenting on this
      Sure if you want EVERYTHING then use windows but have fun dealing with Microsofts crappy os that shoves ads and updates down your throat :D

    • @m.m.3753
      @m.m.3753 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro Not Out of stock. NVidia ob Linux sucks, dont lie. I am on Nobara now, used actually every new distro this week. HDR Lacks, VRR Sometimes available Sometimes Not. Starfield Framegenration in Nvidia dont available. Dont lie Dude, dont fool yourself. Try Ghost Spectre Windows 11, and See gaming Wonders. Believe me, i Love and Support Linux over 25 years, but my Hope falls

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@m.m.3753 well thats the thing, i can explain every feature your having issues with like hdr and how it wont be ready till plasma 6.1, vrr wont be ready for nvidia until the 555 driver this month and yeah framegen doesnt work, welp go back to windows bro and deal with that crappy os.
      Ill have fun with my amd system :)

    • @m.m.3753
      @m.m.3753 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So was i right before? Every hardcore Fan allways Starts to: wait i can explain. NO! I will Game! Without thinkering around! So If Linux doesent have this state of gaming Like Windows its Not recommendable. Think about normal Windows Users, they dont even understand Windows! Now you come with wait i can explain. They have No brain for that.

    • @linuxnext
      @linuxnext  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@m.m.3753 seems like you just dont like linux so go back to windows lmao its where you belong :D