I'd deffinetly put new separate unconnected oil grooves in with individual oil nipples or cups. That way it adds fun oiling your machine and you know the oil is reaching its destination. Great work so far Tom.
Thanks for the Shout-Out Tom. I would not extend those oil grooves too much, because they have to stay sealed at each end or all the oil will run out when table is at full travel. I am just thinking of how engine bearings have feed grooves in the middle. If they went to the edge they wouldn't hold any oil pressure to create a cushion of film of lube to stop wear. Just run the bed to both ends while oiling machine to get full coverage.
I love the way this project is evolving. You are going to have a really nice machine in the end, if the wear isn't too bad. If it is, we might get to see a whole bunch of scraping videos.
Great progress on the boring mill Tom. Unbelievable amount of dirt and grease inside. That lamp is fantastic. Will be so useful in the shop. Can understand that you had to have it. Cheers Nobby
Hi Tom, I think I'd leave those oil grooves as is. They likely stopped them short, so that they stay covered up when the table is at the ends of its travel. Otherwise the oil grooves could be exposed, and let the oil dump out.
Hi Tom, That lamp is way cool and very handy. Man that was some load of gunk dirt and swarf build up. Good news on nothing broken in the feed engagement. I'm on the same page as the others, keeping the oil grooves as is. Great project 👍👍
Hey there Dean. Yeah some serious accumulation of gunk. I am glad I decided to dive into it. I am going to leave the oil grooves as is after the comments I got.
Tom - Excellent Progress. Late 30's Iron is excellent quaily and stress free . The Machines size is perfect for all kinds of work . Take it one step at a time . Like the Old Cigarette Commerical said - "You've come a long way Baby " --- Jim
Do NOT extend the oil grooves out. When the table moves to the extremes on the saddle, you do not want to expose the oil grooves, or they will empty all their oil. Install a Bijur system. ----Doozer
Tom, I would definitely extend the oil grooves. It’s fairly easy to do with a die grinder. I would also try my hand it’s scraping on the worn parts, anything to help hold oil between those surfaces would really be beneficial. I have a number 25 Giddings and Lewis with the rotary table. Your cleanup and repaint is getting me excited about doing the same on the Giddings and Lewis, I bought it a couple years ago, parked it in the back of the shop and have kind of forgotten about it. Anyways, thanks for taking the time to make a video about it.
Oh cool. I was on the hunt for a G&L 25RT. They rarely came up for sale and when I did find one it was all the way on Oklahoma. Too costly to go get. Does yours have the tail stock too?
Fair amount of grit and grime in there It’s hard to tell with all the bobbing, shaking of the head mount camera. It is very nice to watch when you go to the tripod Thanks for sharing
Gday Tom, certainly well worth extending the oil grooves, it can only help, it amazing how much crap builds up on machines over the decades, great job mate, cheers
@@hilltopmachineworks2131 Slow. Not a lot of time to spend in the shop these days. With another granddaughter expected soon, probably going to be limited all summer.
Hi Tom. I think putting in new oil grooves is a good idea, but possibly a bit late, considering the evident wear shown by where the scraping marks are still visible. I think a re-grind on all the ways (although costly) would be worth it in the long run. Interesting item that light. 101 years old! Give Kaos a pat for me.
Hey Doozer. After watching you show case the wiper stock you bought I picked up some off of E-bay. I give you a shout out about it in the upcoming video. 🙂
You touched my heart when I saw you using the brass hammer. I am a Hammer Snob. I cringe when I see someone using a hard face hammer on machine surfaces. And claw hammers have no place in a machine shop. Our dogs love going to the shop with us. Snuggles gets really excited when I say the magic words. "Want to go to the Shop?" Great video series on the boring mill. I will surely be here to the end of the restoration and beyond. Here is a little clip of Snuggles protecting me from the Ladder. LOL th-cam.com/video/iUZpTkUOY-Y/w-d-xo.html
My g&l you move the table all the way to the end and fill it with oil. It lubes the table in out and cross screws as well as the ways. Maybe that is what the hole is for.
I'd deffinetly put new separate unconnected oil grooves in with individual oil nipples or cups. That way it adds fun oiling your machine and you know the oil is reaching its destination. Great work so far Tom.
I second that.
Thanks for the suggestion Tony.
Thanks for the Shout-Out Tom. I would not extend those oil grooves too much, because they have to stay sealed at each end or all the oil will run out when table is at full travel. I am just thinking of how engine bearings have feed grooves in the middle. If they went to the edge they wouldn't hold any oil pressure to create a cushion of film of lube to stop wear. Just run the bed to both ends while oiling machine to get full coverage.
Thanks Tom . I love cleaning up the old machines, but the smell under that inspection plate is the only exception.
Hey Kimber. I hope things are going better for you.
I love the way this project is evolving. You are going to have a really nice machine in the end, if the wear isn't too bad. If it is, we might get to see a whole bunch of scraping videos.
Thanks Robert. I am hoping the wear is workable. I guess we will see once it is all back together and start using it.
The wedge idea on the lead screws we inspired. I was cringing a bit when I saw where the straps were paced.
Coming right along! Will be so satisfying to get to using it. Their work envelope spoils you once you do.
nice one Tom
that Brass Scale is a sign of the times, wouldn't get that now👍👍👍👍
atb
Kev
The brass scales are a cool touch for sure. Back when craftsmanship went into the things we made.
Happy days Tom, proper quality gear there, that will last another 90 years 🎉 Hope ya'll keeping well, best wishes to you and yours buddy
Hello Tom,
Extending the oil grooves sounds like a good plan. More good progress, well done...
Take care.
Paul,,
Good to see the years of patina build up removed. This is going to be a beast of a machine - proceeding very nicely so far!
Thanks. 🙂
Great progress on the boring mill Tom. Unbelievable amount of dirt and grease inside. That lamp is fantastic. Will be so useful in the shop. Can understand that you had to have it. Cheers Nobby
Hey there Nobby. It was quite a bit of crap for sure. The lamp is such a cool piece. It will look right in place at the mill.
Hi Tom, I think I'd leave those oil grooves as is. They likely stopped them short, so that they stay covered up when the table is at the ends of its travel. Otherwise the oil grooves could be exposed, and let the oil dump out.
Good point. That is something I did not think of.
@@hilltopmachineworks2131 And I may be wrong, but I'd definitely check first.👍
Wow that was lot of TLC cleanup Tom, looking good and great to see you and Mr Kaos.
It was quite a bit of crap for sure. Thanks for watching Al.
Hi Tom, That lamp is way cool and very handy. Man that was some load of gunk dirt and swarf build up. Good news on nothing broken in the feed engagement.
I'm on the same page as the others, keeping the oil grooves as is.
Great project 👍👍
Hey there Dean. Yeah some serious accumulation of gunk. I am glad I decided to dive into it. I am going to leave the oil grooves as is after the comments I got.
Tom - Excellent Progress. Late 30's Iron is excellent quaily and stress free . The Machines size is perfect for all kinds of work .
Take it one step at a time . Like the Old Cigarette Commerical said - "You've come a long way Baby " --- Jim
Thank you Jim. Pacing myself for sure. I am not a spring chicken anymore. 😀
Do NOT extend the oil grooves out. When the table moves to the extremes on the saddle, you do not want to expose the oil grooves, or they will empty all their oil. Install a Bijur system. ----Doozer
Looks like alot of work Tom, Thanks for sharing.
It has been a choir, but it was definitely needed.
G’day Tom. Oh man that saddle had some built up crud all over it. Good to see you out there making stuff mate. Cheers 🍻 Aaron
Thanks Aaron and It sure did. 14 pounds of crap. Ugh.
Nice progress Tom. Much better to restore old iron than buying something made in China. Thanks for taking the time to record all this.
Thanks Jim. Yeah nothing like the good old stuff.
Looks good Tom. Keep up the great progress.
Thank you Randy.
Good thing there is nothing broken in there.
And the lead screw wouldn't be to hard to do. Go for it.
I just ordered a nice ball screw and ball screw nut for it.
Looks great Tom!
Cheers
Martin
Thanks. 👍
Thanks for sharing Tom good job
I appreciate it. 🙏
Great vid, looking forward to more
Thanks.
Nice Clean up
Thanks.
Tom, I would definitely extend the oil grooves. It’s fairly easy to do with a die grinder. I would also try my hand it’s scraping on the worn parts, anything to help hold oil between those surfaces would really be beneficial. I have a number 25 Giddings and Lewis with the rotary table. Your cleanup and repaint is getting me excited about doing the same on the Giddings and Lewis, I bought it a couple years ago, parked it in the back of the shop and have kind of forgotten about it. Anyways, thanks for taking the time to make a video about it.
Oh cool. I was on the hunt for a G&L 25RT. They rarely came up for sale and when I did find one it was all the way on Oklahoma. Too costly to go get. Does yours have the tail stock too?
I have a G&L 25T. If you need any info, we can chat. ---Doozer
@@kooldoozer thank you
@@hilltopmachineworks2131 this one was 160 miles from me
Thanks for sharing 👍
very good job my friend Tom..thanks for your time
Fair amount of grit and grime in there It’s hard to tell with all the bobbing, shaking of the head mount camera. It is very nice to watch when you go to the tripod Thanks for sharing
Sorry about that. The quick stop and update I usually just grab the camera and shoot.
I like this project.
Awesome. Thanks for watching!
Gday Tom, certainly well worth extending the oil grooves, it can only help, it amazing how much crap builds up on machines over the decades, great job mate, cheers
It is. Thanks for your input on extending the grooves.
I remember when you got that light!
Ain't it cool. 🤩
Hi Tom,
what a mess you can find. when you fix up a machine.👍 your metal recycler must bring a container to your area😂
I was amazed actually how much come out of there.
@@hilltopmachineworks2131 I get that. really a place where you don't expect it
Quite the collection of muck! I'd say go for the extra oil grooves. I can't see why it would hurt.
It was a lot of crud for sure. How is your SB coming along?
@@hilltopmachineworks2131 Slow. Not a lot of time to spend in the shop these days. With another granddaughter expected soon, probably going to be limited all summer.
Hi Tom. I think putting in new oil grooves is a good idea, but possibly a bit late, considering the evident wear shown by where the scraping marks are still visible. I think a re-grind on all the ways (although costly) would be worth it in the long run. Interesting item that light. 101 years old! Give Kaos a pat for me.
I would love to have all the ways reground. Unfortunately it is just way too much work and too costly. The light was a neat find.
McMaster Carr has Gore-Tite way wipers. Man that thing is dirty. Almost like it was in a welding shop most of it's life. --Doozer
Hey Doozer. After watching you show case the wiper stock you bought I picked up some off of E-bay. I give you a shout out about it in the upcoming video. 🙂
You touched my heart when I saw you using the brass hammer. I am a Hammer Snob. I cringe when I see someone using a hard face hammer on machine surfaces. And claw hammers have no place in a machine shop. Our dogs love going to the shop with us. Snuggles gets really excited when I say the magic words. "Want to go to the Shop?" Great video series on the boring mill. I will surely be here to the end of the restoration and beyond. Here is a little clip of Snuggles protecting me from the Ladder. LOL
th-cam.com/video/iUZpTkUOY-Y/w-d-xo.html
Thanks Terry. Yeah using the right tool for the job is a must. Hey Snuggles.
??? Why are you converting to a ball screw ?? Going CNC ? --Doozer
Not going CNC. Got the idea from Brian Block. He suggested it. Since that screw is the one doing 99% of the work.
@@hilltopmachineworks2131 Oh man, Me thinks Me likes ! Think how fast the rapid will be ! ! ! --Doozer
My g&l you move the table all the way to the end and fill it with oil. It lubes the table in out and cross screws as well as the ways. Maybe that is what the hole is for.
Extending oil grooves is preferable
Are you going to scrape it?
Going for felt wipers?
I don't know how to scrap so it will stay as is for now. It had rubber way wipers so that is what I am replacing with.
@@hilltopmachineworks2131 You don't have to scrape. Gena Bazarko uses a Dremel tool with a sanding roll cartridge. --Doozer
@@kooldoozer Interesting.