I’ve never been DJ’s biggest fan… but I find him utterly entertaining on these Taylormade sessions. He always seems willing to impart his knowledge and gives great explanations…
Two very different dialects of the same language. I feel that these TM session videos will be something players generations down the road will watch. Great insights for different types of people to understand. If nothing else it’s mesmerizing to watch pros make 90% green in reg with that proximity. Great stuff.
Watching Rory’s shots really shows how much a clean club-face will effect the distance and backspin. Before he wipes his club-face off were hitting the green and stopping right away. Once he cleaned them, they’d bounce and rip back. I could never achieve a backspin until I started cleaning my club-face consistently and making sure my practice balls were all clean/softer golf balls.. also all the same golf balls for consistency (got a few dozen Tour-Response balls that were used for super cheap) it’s a good feeling once you get one ripping back
these are the kind of sessions you need to do more of...chatting and learning what pros think with their gear and shots. a lot of the TM videos are too gimmicky.
Some of it is a little scary, even the best in the world are repeating misconceptions. For example, the raw face has been shown to have actually quite a bit less spin.
I don't know when this video was actually shot but it's great to see these two TaylorMade team pros doing this clinic together. All the recent hype about the animosity between PGA and LIV tour pros seem to be non-existent and I certainly hope that's the case still. I like both of them and their shot making abilities and definitely hope more of these videos will be forthcoming in the future. I especially love hearing them say they change their wedges every couple of weeks to couple of months! I still use my wedges that I've had for over 10 years, lol.....maybe that's why I don't have to worry about excess spin!
Well, if it's after DJ was already on LIV, it's odd for 2 reasons. 1. Their contracts state when you do anything outside LIV, you have to wear their apparel. 2. He's got RBC on his sleeve and they dropped him almost immediately.
@@Real28 True regarding the RBC logo but maybe he just didn't care that it was on there 😆. The LIV logo thing....I don't think they're enforcing that till next season; either that or each player may have a slightly different contract regarding "outside" logos during other "events".
It was great to hear their % practice shots with wedges. I had a wedge lesson 3 weeks ago and I now do 30-40% of my practice with wedges. I still need a lot of work on the rest of my game, of course!
Just a question why wouldn't you want tracers on a wedge video? Would be extremely satisfying and more educational when they speak about changing the shot shape. We couldn't see any of it
I have a little trick I've done most of my life that my dad taught me with my wedges. Don't clean them after your shot! And the reason is if you have a shot, you need a little less spin. A wedge with a little dirt in the groves will do just that. Spin a little less. If you do need that wedge to spin, you can then clean it up before the shot. It's always done right by me.
@@DiscGoStu what do you mean competitive brand? LIV is a sponser, not a clothing manufacturer. Adidas could literally embroider 3 letters on some shirts for him...
@@DiscGoStu LIV branded apparel in that case just means that the logo needs to be on there. its a contract much like a lot of players have mercedes logo or netjets or what ever on their clothes
@@DiscGoStu you can't put words in quotes that aren't in the contract dude. The contract says "The player agrees to wearing LIV golf branding" which is not the same as wearing LIV branded apparel. It says the players must wear the circuit's branding during competitions. LIV is not a clothing manufacturer...
@@3101max I guess I misunderstood what LIV branded apparel meant in this case. I thought LIV was marketing apparel that could be purchased by fans by having their players wear it
@@jeffiden2508 That’s my fault, I was quoting an article and I mistakenly said I was quoting the contract itself and I see the distinction between the two wordings
Johnson is so good with traj and distance control because of the bow in his lead wrist give it a go feel the bow and just pust it through for those short pitch and chip distances so easy to dial it
I have been as low as a +2 handicap with swing speed at 120 mph. Never do the balls spin like this on the course in my area Seattle. So my point is, don't always think its you that can't spin it like this. It takes perfect conditions.
yeah i wouldnt expect a 100 yrd sw to spin that much unless its just the fact the are using expensive wedges and brand new balls. mines only stop unless there is a slope but i dont play new balls or wedges.
Great content, but production value and camera angles don’t sufficiently support that content. #1: Need shot tracer on every shot so we can actual see flight & curve. #2: Need camera positioned at rear of green and high…either JIB or drone. Current camera angle gives no reference at to how close they are getting it to going in the hole. #3: Would be a great additional perk to have trackman numbers showing spin rate and launch angle of each shot (because that’s what you’re talking about). Need to up the production value to match the content!
Nice to see the pros are human too. I too hit crazy good(for level I am at) at the practice session but its quite another thing to repeat that in play. I guarantee they dont hit that well in actual tournament otherwise we wouldnt see chip shots all the time. See there at the end yeah DJ was rushing but I would call it pressure.
The mg3 instead of the stock pitching wedge is like a surgical instrument compared to a carpenters tools. I always go back to my 48, my pw is about 47 so it works good I just lose about a yard.
I know they play more golf than most people, but there is no way I am switching out a club a year because of the raw face being too worn lmao. That is too expensive for me. FYI the new hi-toe is great, I used one at the range the other day. The micro ribs were imparting some good control, and to be honest the face looks great too. I usually stay away from clubs with finishes, as it gets worn off after a couple rounds and looks terrible. I'd rather no finish with just the raw metal coloring.
I bought a 54 degree milled grind last year could not hit a ball 75 yards, found out it was bent to a 56 degree so I had them bend it to a 52 degree to cover my gap between 100 to 120 yards , in the meantime I bought a top flight gamer 52degree wedge for 15 dollars just for the same reason, I hit that 115 yards, then when I got my TM wedge back I couldn't hit it past 91 yards, I tried everything ball back, ball forward everything I cannot hit that club, any suggestions? Maybe a defect?
Id be curious to see the spin numbers on the top flight wedge vs the mg3 wedge. I would almost bet the mg3 spins way higher = higher launch which could make the carry distance change.
The amount of spin they get with each shot is really inconsistent - I’d like to know what they’re doing to get such different amounts of spin shot to shot. Or is that just the club face that makes it hard even for them to control spin magnitude on even half shots?
@@cruzchavez524 also when the ball lands at different parts of the green with different undulation, grain directions, and elevations…you can almost think of it like taking the break of a putt in addition to the spin and the launch from the shot. Some people also mentioned the difference between the shots when Rory cleaned his wedge off vs leaving it dirty.
Yeah I change my wedge 2 or 3 times a decade, usually when the grip is as slippery as a greased weasel or after I've helicoptered it into a lake!!! (not the weasel, no animal abuse here)
Notice that it doesn't matter what tour these guys play on, they are just really really good at what they do. I wish all politics would leave golf. I root for all pros no matter where they are in the world.
My practice is 70-80 percent 9i,pw, wedge that’s where the similarities end , I haven’t changed my one and only 52 wedge for four years 😂 Tbh I don’t think I would like a newer more grippy one .
Videos like this are good for amateurs purely to realise pros don’t stiff it every time.Most amateurs should realise 20ft isn’t a bad shot from this distance.
I’m not saying one is right, and one is wrong, or one is better than the other but they’re polar opposites. Rory is so technical and DJ is feel. It’s funny how DJ seems to believe that they’re similar players lol
I love how Rory waits to make sure he isn't interrupting DJ but DJ just goes for it 😂😂
american's vs europeans
I read you comment and re-watched some. It's embarrassingly obvious.
DJ is low key obnoxious this whole session, rambling, doesn’t even add value to the discussion
LIV vs PGA
@@mattmihovil7690 doesn’t have much to add he does not play off any numbers, all feel. Complete opposite of a guy like Bryson.
Props to trottie, he makes these videos just gel by asking all the right questions with a bit of banter, absolutely class
So tell me boys how are those new zip-crack milled micro chasms on the raw osmium face?
@@johnsfuller haha he is a walking infomercial. That's why he gets paid the medium bucks
Sitting here watching these two hit so consistently is amazing to me
Camera angle
its so annoying 😂
I’ve never been DJ’s biggest fan… but I find him utterly entertaining on these Taylormade sessions. He always seems willing to impart his knowledge and gives great explanations…
Watching dustin and Rory turn around in sync was satisfying. at 00:20
10:46 also
Watching wedge play like this is such a treat!
Two very different dialects of the same language. I feel that these TM session videos will be something players generations down the road will watch. Great insights for different types of people to understand. If nothing else it’s mesmerizing to watch pros make 90% green in reg with that proximity. Great stuff.
OMG! These videos are just absolute GOLD!!!
Thank you TaylorMade Golf and everyone involved in making these videos :)
My favorite content!!!!
Some fantastic insight here from some of the greats. Thanks for including us!
Watching Rory’s shots really shows how much a clean club-face will effect the distance and backspin. Before he wipes his club-face off were hitting the green and stopping right away. Once he cleaned them, they’d bounce and rip back. I could never achieve a backspin until I started cleaning my club-face consistently and making sure my practice balls were all clean/softer golf balls.. also all the same golf balls for consistency (got a few dozen Tour-Response balls that were used for super cheap) it’s a good feeling once you get one ripping back
these are the kind of sessions you need to do more of...chatting and learning what pros think with their gear and shots. a lot of the TM videos are too gimmicky.
Some of it is a little scary, even the best in the world are repeating misconceptions. For example, the raw face has been shown to have actually quite a bit less spin.
@@Brandon-youtube shown where?
@@lt.squinky552 a number of outlets have done research, as much as I don’t like the ceo of my golf spy, they have a good write up on it
Love Rory. Just seems so class
Who cares?! I'm looking at feels and concepts not equipment
I don't know when this video was actually shot but it's great to see these two TaylorMade team pros doing this clinic together. All the recent hype about the animosity between PGA and LIV tour pros seem to be non-existent and I certainly hope that's the case still. I like both of them and their shot making abilities and definitely hope more of these videos will be forthcoming in the future. I especially love hearing them say they change their wedges every couple of weeks to couple of months! I still use my wedges that I've had for over 10 years, lol.....maybe that's why I don't have to worry about excess spin!
Well, if it's after DJ was already on LIV, it's odd for 2 reasons.
1. Their contracts state when you do anything outside LIV, you have to wear their apparel.
2. He's got RBC on his sleeve and they dropped him almost immediately.
@real idk how true that is, Bryson has been flooding his TH-cam with content and isn’t wearing any LIV logo…
@@Real28 True regarding the RBC logo but maybe he just didn't care that it was on there 😆. The LIV logo thing....I don't think they're enforcing that till next season; either that or each player may have a slightly different contract regarding "outside" logos during other "events".
This was way before DJ joined LIV. No way these two would do this now. Sad, but true.
This is just awesome. How this doesn't have a million views blows my mind. Two masters of the game just talking through the process. Brilliant.
Incredibly educational within an actual conversation, with context and evidence couldn’t be better keep it coming🔥
Wondering if this was before or after LIV, seemed Rory kinda winced when he said "we're 2 of the longest players on the tour"
way before LIV. they film all this stuff in one day and release it throughout the year
this was before LIV as DJ still had RBC sponsorship. The RBC logo on his left shoulder
Rory's wedge game has improved so much, its amazing
It was great to hear their % practice shots with wedges. I had a wedge lesson 3 weeks ago and I now do 30-40% of my practice with wedges. I still need a lot of work on the rest of my game, of course!
Crazy watching Rory and his spin differences when he cleans the face of his wedge, versus when it starts to get dirty and doesn’t spin.
This is the first time it feels like DJ actually wanted to be on camera and talk
Lol he'd just signed that big money contract
he is great on barstool's fore play
He’s in a really good place right now!
this was prob filmed before all the controversy
@@williampark759 probably not
My favourite golfer overall and my favourite golfer in LIV. It’s a good day
Great idea guys. So relaxed and open discussion.
So pure. These guys are just incredibly good 🔥
Fascinating insight into how pros approach approach play
Great Video, cool to hear the mindset of top level players! They make it look so easy......awesome!
I for one actually enjoy the simplicity of this production. You don't need drone footage or tracers on every video
Just a question why wouldn't you want tracers on a wedge video? Would be extremely satisfying and more educational when they speak about changing the shot shape. We couldn't see any of it
Tracers would have been great here. Still a great just to hear their thoughts
The best bit from this is the don't take any off, take your swing and add some always make sure you are accelerating through the ball
I have a little trick I've done most of my life that my dad taught me with my wedges. Don't clean them after your shot! And the reason is if you have a shot, you need a little less spin. A wedge with a little dirt in the groves will do just that. Spin a little less. If you do need that wedge to spin, you can then clean it up before the shot. It's always done right by me.
impressive DJ manage to get those shots so stright. Crazy closed club at the top, so if he is not turning very fast, this is gonna be massive hooks
Wonder if next season when new equipment come out the staff players from liv are going to be in it.
@@DiscGoStu what do you mean competitive brand? LIV is a sponser, not a clothing manufacturer. Adidas could literally embroider 3 letters on some shirts for him...
@@DiscGoStu LIV branded apparel in that case just means that the logo needs to be on there. its a contract much like a lot of players have mercedes logo or netjets or what ever on their clothes
@@DiscGoStu you can't put words in quotes that aren't in the contract dude. The contract says "The player agrees to wearing LIV golf branding" which is not the same as wearing LIV branded apparel. It says the players must wear the circuit's branding during competitions. LIV is not a clothing manufacturer...
@@3101max I guess I misunderstood what LIV branded apparel meant in this case. I thought LIV was marketing apparel that could be purchased by fans by having their players wear it
@@jeffiden2508 That’s my fault, I was quoting an article and I mistakenly said I was quoting the contract itself and I see the distinction between the two wordings
Half hour in one vid - gold dust, well done TM 👏
Legends right there. Thank you muchly for the great info
Johnson is so good with traj and distance control because of the bow in his lead wrist give it a go feel the bow and just pust it through for those short pitch and chip distances so easy to dial it
Pure gold right here.
Well done Trottie and team. World class content as always.
I have been as low as a +2 handicap with swing speed at 120 mph. Never do the balls spin like this on the course in my area Seattle. So my point is, don't always think its you that can't spin it like this. It takes perfect conditions.
Furthermore sand filled golf courses help with spin.
yeah i wouldnt expect a 100 yrd sw to spin that much unless its just the fact the are using expensive wedges and brand new balls. mines only stop unless there is a slope but i dont play new balls or wedges.
Great content, but production value and camera angles don’t sufficiently support that content. #1: Need shot tracer on every shot so we can actual see flight & curve. #2: Need camera positioned at rear of green and high…either JIB or drone. Current camera angle gives no reference at to how close they are getting it to going in the hole. #3: Would be a great additional perk to have trackman numbers showing spin rate and launch angle of each shot (because that’s what you’re talking about). Need to up the production value to match the content!
That would be nice indeed
This kind of video is the best
A shot tracer would have been cool in this scenario.
Rory is such a class act!
Nice to see the pros are human too. I too hit crazy good(for level I am at) at the practice session but its quite another thing to repeat that in play. I guarantee they dont hit that well in actual tournament otherwise we wouldnt see chip shots all the time. See there at the end yeah DJ was rushing but I would call it pressure.
How long ago was this recorded since DJ is with LIV?
Love these videos 🧨
is this old footage because PGA vs LIV
Yes
Yeah DJ has RBC on his shoulder
This consistency is bonkers, all of them hit the green
I’d like to know if they use same length shafts or not or what shaft length they each use? DJ is taller and would think his are longer
Awesome video!
0:22 they both moved in sync
Surprised they still post these after everything that’s happened (i know it was filmed awhile back but still)
Trottie has the dream job, mixing with all the top TM pros
What was the high bounce? a 12 or higher?
Wonder how long ago it was made… don’t see Rory and DJ making this video with liv now
The mg3 instead of the stock pitching wedge is like a surgical instrument compared to a carpenters tools. I always go back to my 48, my pw is about 47 so it works good I just lose about a yard.
they're playing a different game me. good stuff.
Was this filmed before or after DJ went to LIV?
Well done team taylormade
I know they play more golf than most people, but there is no way I am switching out a club a year because of the raw face being too worn lmao. That is too expensive for me. FYI the new hi-toe is great, I used one at the range the other day. The micro ribs were imparting some good control, and to be honest the face looks great too. I usually stay away from clubs with finishes, as it gets worn off after a couple rounds and looks terrible. I'd rather no finish with just the raw metal coloring.
I bought a 54 degree milled grind last year could not hit a ball 75 yards, found out it was bent to a 56 degree so I had them bend it to a 52 degree to cover my gap between 100 to 120 yards , in the meantime I bought a top flight gamer 52degree wedge for 15 dollars just for the same reason, I hit that 115 yards, then when I got my TM wedge back I couldn't hit it past 91 yards, I tried everything ball back, ball forward everything I cannot hit that club, any suggestions? Maybe a defect?
Could be bounce and grind difference
Id be curious to see the spin numbers on the top flight wedge vs the mg3 wedge. I would almost bet the mg3 spins way higher = higher launch which could make the carry distance change.
What golf course is this at? I'm pretty sure it's in Jupiter, FL...I also think both these guys have a house down there.
What irons are they using ! Stealth or P790
So what’s good with those couple week old 60s? I’ll could take a few
Somebody explain how to hit the 10 foot fade with the wedge.
" I don't want too much spin" while each shot spin back like mad, lol
and theyre talking about raw face which gives extra spin....
@@Adrian-yv8sy no it doesn’t lol
10:41 Rory and dustin step to the ball in sync
Wonder if they will do this again next year…lol.
18:10 That ammount of backspin is just crazy to me
Is this before or after LIV
LOL was this pre DJ going to LIV??
Is it Rory’s birthday? This man’s got cake. 😳
What course is this? Anyone know?
With 20 on the line an using a tp wedge 0ne mm from cup from the ruff , 18th .
Jesus Christ that spin DJ put on the ball with the 60 degree @18:15
I'm thinking about how happy the grounds crew is about having to fix up them fairways after this.
I like Rory and DJ.
Wait who is the two guys on the left I know the guy on the right. The legend himself Chris Trottieeeeee
The amount of spin they get with each shot is really inconsistent - I’d like to know what they’re doing to get such different amounts of spin shot to shot. Or is that just the club face that makes it hard even for them to control spin magnitude on even half shots?
They are hitting different shot shapes. High cut more spin. The draws are stopping quicker less spin.
@@cruzchavez524 also when the ball lands at different parts of the green with different undulation, grain directions, and elevations…you can almost think of it like taking the break of a putt in addition to the spin and the launch from the shot. Some people also mentioned the difference between the shots when Rory cleaned his wedge off vs leaving it dirty.
Man, these guys are good. I would have had balls everywhere lmao
I love the insight but don't be mistaken, this is one long extended commercial for Taylormade wedges 😂📽🎬
We love basic videos
I need to know how I can stop my forward spin with my irons😂
Great info
Yo DJ! Can I have your latest wedge set you don’t use 😬
O. old footage?
Yeah I change my wedge 2 or 3 times a decade, usually when the grip is as slippery as a greased weasel or after I've helicoptered it into a lake!!! (not the weasel, no animal abuse here)
Taylormade trying to keep the peace between their golfers 😂
Rory legitimately ripping a 2'x2' patch out of the fairway by the end lol
Gotta love DJ 😂
Notice that it doesn't matter what tour these guys play on, they are just really really good at what they do. I wish all politics would leave golf. I root for all pros no matter where they are in the world.
Is this after dj joined liv?
My practice is 70-80 percent 9i,pw, wedge that’s where the similarities end , I haven’t changed my one and only 52 wedge for four years 😂
Tbh I don’t think I would like a newer more grippy one .
Didn’t think they were that close for the amount of balls they were hitting
70% practice spent with wedges... Wow. Time to hit up the chip n putt
Rory & Dustin wedge clinic? I'll take Tiger and Phil for the win.
Videos like this are good for amateurs purely to realise pros don’t stiff it every time.Most amateurs should realise 20ft isn’t a bad shot from this distance.
Think this is the last time these 2 hung out? 😂
Definitely, haha
Never saw Dustin talk that much... cool guy.
DJ needs to get back to the PGA tour. It needs him and he needs it. (Obviously not financially)
Surprised they’re talking to each other after Rory’s comments on LIV…
This is pre-LIV
I would have dug a grave yard if I was hitting that many wedges. The one thing I liked hearing was never hit full wedge shots.
Anyone else hear that at 22:59 ?
I’m not saying one is right, and one is wrong, or one is better than the other but they’re polar opposites. Rory is so technical and DJ is feel. It’s funny how DJ seems to believe that they’re similar players lol