Kia EV9 review | What's it like to live with?
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The German car fanboy comments on this thread are eye-opening. It's funny how everyone just ignores the well-known and astronomical maintenance costs for high end German car brands. Same for Land Rover. Year after year they get sub par reliability reviews, and yet people keep telling me that they're high quality and they keep buying them.
Seems to me that the best car is the one you can drive every day for 10 years with minimal repairs over scheduled maintenance, is comfortable, offers the features you need, and doesn't break the bank.
Agree
Best looking SUV out there by far!! Wow
1:24 I know it's the accent but as an American I only hear "turd row" and now I can't unhear it. The third row will only be known to me as the turd row seating.
Best looking ev suv
Saw a 241 black in portmarnock. Looks very nice in person!
OOS reviews did an 80mph freeway test and it consumed 49.45kWh over 94.1 miles = 526wh/mi or 327wh/km and a range of less than 190miles at this speed.
It charges fast so should not be a issue try 75 mph
I had a Kia EV9 on order until my local dealer got a demonstrator and I took it out for a test drive. The big problem I found was the high bonnet in front of you - the drivers seat wouldn't go high enough to get a good view of the road ahead in front of the car. My wife is just over 5 ft and she couldn't see enough of the road to drive safely. On our narrow Devon roads we need a much better view of the road edges. Going over humpback bridges this car is blind. We had taken an ID Buzz for test drive and the view for the driver and seat height was excellent.
Totally different viewpoint from the Buzz alright.
Fair point. This ironically is why I am getting it. I’m 6’10 and for me it’s the most comfortable car.
For people saying for 80k I’d go for a German car, you’d be paying well over 100k for the same features. Also, there’s no fully electric 3 row German SUV (yet). So you’d still be paying for maintenance and fuel. The allure of these cars are features for money and I think this still fulfills that. For the lane changes you’re supposed to cancel your indicator anyway, so it’s no surprise that it follows the rules and doesn’t cut over 3 lanes.
The IX with same feature is 50k more
@@BGfootballfan 50k more and it’s still not in the same size class. The IX is a five row. This would compete with an X7 which would be way over 50k more for an electric equivalent.
@@gavincolgan1827 true.
Kia really need to add some cloth/soft material to the sides in the trunk in thier cars. In all thier cars those areas become scratched. For this price point its really cheap of them not adding it.
I don't live in Europe, so I(USA) don't have the annoying beeping government-mandated features, but you can program the Star button on your wheel to go right to some of those settings. Or at least save you a few taps. Might keep you from going mad.
Great review. There is a loud static in your audio. Can you remove that.
I would buy this as used. Got to wait. Haha
I'll take it you didn't try any country roads to see how much briars love those shiny gloss black arch surrounds 🤣.
No but I did put it through a brush wash twice and they seemed ok
@@NobbyOnCars I hate those things with a passion ever since I saw one whip a roof bar off and try to beat a Cortina estate to death with it 😂. This was before signs went up telling you not to enter with a roof rack fitted.
Great video! Do you know who makes the cargo cover and seat protector you show around 29 seconds in your video?
All came with the car so it’s Kia
@@NobbyOnCars I thought so. Looks like Europe markers have a slightly different accessory design from what I can tell. Compared to USA accessories. Thanks for the quick reply.
@@mdribblecastle I’ll ask the PR is it standard anyway, I’m sure it can be ordered if it doesn’t come with US cars?
When you simply don’t know where to waste you money it good to get this type of product
10:00 its a safety mechanism, idk how's that supposed to keep you safer
but even the wireless charging only turns on when ALL doors are closed
Hope this come to India in few years, I need to save a lot of money
Paid £12.5K for my 2 year old 7 seater six years ago, spent about £2k in repairs and servicing, £180 in tax, £1.8K insurance - total. Fuel £4160 (55mpg). So £19k so far, still worth £7.5k though. Think I’ll hang on to it.
Where is the point in comparing a used car where somebody already paid for the depreciation with a new car?
Great video. That ev9 is so big and heavy you might need a hgv licence to drive it.
It's actually quite average if not small in America.
Ah you get used to it fairly quickly I found
@NobbyOnCars I was all set to buy a new model y this month, bit the rumours are getting stronger that the refresh model is coming sooner than expected. Have you heard anything on the grape vine?
Love the design, would love a mini crossover model 5 seater.
It’s coming!
@@NobbyOnCars would love that, but i just bought another car and i think that one would be above my budget 😅
Are the spinning rear seats a Europe only option? I haven't seen this mentioned in the US reviews of this vehicle.
Can’t imagine it’s Europe only. Only on 6 seater though?
Korea, EU only (Different safety regulations)
Yeah they don't have that in Australia. I've got the carnival last year and no spinning seats.
Greetings from Ireland... why do the EU versions I have seen do not have the led matrix like the ones in the States?? Cheers
EU regs say they are too dangerous for pedestrians……
@NobbyOnCars it's a shame as it gives a very distinctive look to the car...
agree.
Wow the price is high. The EV9 starts around 49k Euros in Canada (rough conversion). It seems like great value for your money, at least here.
Nice.
Unfortunately, the value of this product is quite subpar. Upon purchase, its worth diminishes significantly due to the exorbitant cost of the battery, which surpasses that of the car itself. Consequently, its resale value plummets, rendering it essentially worthless in the secondhand market. Once you acquire it, you can only utilize it until the battery inevitably fails. It is important to note that replacing the battery in Korean cars is the most expensive endeavor worldwide. Please exercise extreme caution, as the individuals who provide positive reviews fail to disclose the fact that this product becomes utterly worthless after purchase. I am well aware of this issue as I am employed in the automotive design industry.
Bro i was in the dealership today in Toronto and lowest trim of EV9 starts 63k + tax
@@TurkelHumbatzade okay and I was going off the Kia Canada site which says 61k, and that converts to roughly 49k Euros like I said.
Gotta ask... What happens if you just put a bit of electrical tape over the sensor? ...as a crude hack/fix @6:25 😋
Would beep to tell you view restricted
@@NobbyOnCars Bugger! Oh well, I'll be looking for the same way to "bugger it off" if/when mine turns up 😁
While I think it’s a great car, I feel €85k+ is a lot and as many have said it will drop like a stone ! Thats iX money. I know the iX is not everyone’s favourite (!) but I have had mine for 6 months and its honestly the best car I’ve had. It has most of the toys the EV9 has (the ones you need anyway) including a rubberised charging mat Nobby.
In 3 years time I know which one I’d like to be trading in….
That’s not even remotely if money. If you match the extras the IX is 50k more expensive. It’s more like glc or x3 money.
Not true. iX starts from €87k (looks like it just increased by €3k) and it is impossible to spend €50k in extras. As I said it has most of what you need. EV9 is €86250 inc metallic.
So you can get into an iX for the same money which was my point.
I think the EV9 is a really great car but it is overpriced.
@@donalgreene that’s with the 75kw battery.
You’ve moved neatly on from your 50k extras claim about the iX.
Still fail to see your point. Forget about the iX if you wish.
The EV9 is a very good car but it’s punching above its weight at 85k. That’s the point I am making. Simple !
@@donalgreeneiX is small for large families, not in the same class with only 5 seats. Also gimmicky clear plastic/crystal buttons, ugly interior and terrible exterior and higher price. EV9 looks good and is rugged with tons of space.
Lovely car but I think ill stick to my Sorento PHEV
The depreciation on the EV9 is going to be OFF THE CHARTS!!!!
Looking forward for this. Reliable, solidly built, over engineered KIA. ❤❤❤
Why? There won't be that many of them and there aren't that many other 6/7 EV seaters.
@@connclissmann6514 don’t you want a reliable, high tech, affordable, comfortable, clean vehicle?
Just like all ev
@@afdzalreza3508 If I did I'd buy a modern, efficient and clean petrol car made in Europe. Not something that destroys the planet in it's creation.
This is a really good, but expensive 6/7-seater. To me, it’d make more sense buying it as perhaps a 2-y/old car… let someone pay £70/80k for it, then grab a low-mileage ‘bargain’ a couple of years later @£40/50k.
It will be £2000+ to insure because it's a Kia EV.
Primarily designed and built for the US market I’d say. Probably a lot cheaper there as well.
Their US sales only account for just under 25% of their total, actually, with just under 20% being Europe, and again just under 20% domestic, here in Korea.
Even in countries like the UK or Germany, a big car in the countryside is in demand.
I've also heard that specifically the EVs in the US are lagging in sales a bit, compared with Europe and Korea.
In Europe the VAT is over 20% that's one of the main reasons why the cars are more expensive there.
@@vicorkitAre the percentages you have for the brand or for EV9 specifically? I'd guess they're for the brand.
U.S. sales aren't great from what I have heard. People are waiting for their Atlanta plant to build the EV9s so they can get the EV rebate.
Does driving electric cars affect impotence and cancer? training the body as a whole?
What are you on about
Ok, regarding the cost of charging, please remember to average out the cost through the year, 95% of charging is done at home, costing much less than public charging. However, using fossil fuels is always expensive and no matter when you fill up, it's the same cost. Charging overnight at home is cheaper. So average over the year and you'll be saving compared to fossil fuels.
Good point on the fossil always being the same (ish) but the rest I did cover in fairness.
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The rubber mat for wireless charging …. My Ioniq 5 has that
Great feature
Our EV6 has it too !!!
EVs are supposed to have increased inside cabin space. Does not make sense for third row to have just two seats.
So it wouldnt do Dublin to Sneem without having to charge, honestly thats laughable.
Có 280 và 270
Thanks for highlighting the energy efficiency. Most reviewers don’t actually mention this, but indeed, if you rely on fast chargers only, this car is more expensive than a petrol or diesel SUV.
I think that can be said for any EV constantly using public chargers 👍🏻
@@NobbyOnCars agreed. One other thing: why is it so that slow (22kW or even 11kW) public chargers sometimes handle the same price as a tesla supercharger (45ct/kw). Mainland EU here, but I guess it’s everywhere
EV 9 has a DC chargıng problem as ıt selects the chargıng statıon....
Calling it the tird row is a bit harsh.
15 sensors but only 2 are Lidars, not all of them
Yes I made a mistake mixing up the two figures when ad libbing to camera.
@@NobbyOnCars all good :) thanks for the vid
My Sorento has the same thing and it broke within a year and Kia don't know how to fix it
hyundai owns approximately 30% of kia motors.
I know of someone who bought an audi ev for over 100k, he had to go dublin to the far side of cork for work down and back same day, no guarantee of a charger at the destination in cork so he had to rent a car for the day. Imagine paying over 100k and the thing cant be relied upon for a run of the mill task like that. Laughable.
Its nice , but i would rather buy 2 meganes . One for the wife and one for me.
This car costs near 100k USD here in Bulgaria, and this is 3 ton 200 hp snail, if you need 7 seater better get a VAN.
380hp
85k€ for a effing KIA. That’s the problem i have. Seems like it’s the norm now. Craziness
Imagine paying 80k to have to deal with a kia dealer. Stupid.
Look
No getting away from it
85K for a Kia is ridiculous no matter how good it is
Depreciation will be unbelievable
Stop slaving to brands and buy whatever is good.
Not more than german cars 😊
Nobster come on man,test it properly.
Put 4 adults or 6 in it with a boot load and then call back the stats.
Pointless having all those configurations if you can’t go anywhere in it.
This ain’t Top Gear pal. I don’t have 6 willing adults to go on camera nor a budget to pay them for their time! 😐
The potential cost for replacing the battery in this vehicle is a substantial $60,000, as provided by the esteemed Korean manufacturer. It is crucial to acknowledge that, over a period of 5 years, the value of the vehicle decreases significantly, with approximately 60% of its battery capacity being depleted. Consequently, it becomes highly improbable for any logical individual to invest in such a vehicle, considering that its battery life is approaching its end. It is worth noting that Korean car batteries are currently positioned among the most expensive globally. Consequently, the prevailing approach is to opt for a new electric vehicle after a few years, leaving the old car to be discarded in the scrap yard, rendering it worthless.
It is analogous to purchasing a can of coke, which may initially seem affordable. However, once the can is emptied, it becomes impractical to refill it since it is more cost-effective to purchase a new can.
That’s not true about the battery degradation whatsoever. Individual cells on a battery can also be replaced. To say a battery will have 60% capacity after 5 years is blatant waffle.
Fake news
The Hyundai Santa fe 2024 seems better value.
Parking and day to day usage of this size vehicle would be a bloody nightmare.
Can be alright!
Smiling at that while parking my Wagoneer
Cute, must be European.
I drive a Hummer and have no issues. It's not the car, it's the driver.
Not in the USA. Just a regular midsize SUV, same as a Telluride.
Looks a quality car, Dare I say it… Maybe have a Diesel option for us old fashioned diesel lovers 👴🏻
Adrian Weckler writing in the Indo stated that his 12 month old ID3 had lost €15,000 in one year. Even taking new car depreciation into account, that’s an enormous sum of money to lose. Early EV adopters are the Guinea pigs for this new tech and they’re paying heavily for it, both in the original purchase price and in depreciation. As the technology improves, these early EVs will be worthless when solid state batteries come online with longer ranges and short charging times. Naturally the EVangelists cannot see this as they’re busy “saving the planet” but a fool and their money is easily parted. As for that behemoth, it’s a ridiculous waste of resources when we’re “supposed” to be conserving the environment. Talk about hypocrisy 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Well said
New tech has to start somewhere - 100ish years ago, cars had to bring cans of fuel on the running boards, there was even a short time when a man with a red flag 🚩 had to walk in front, because people thought cars were so dangerous.
I paid over the odds on PCs in the ‘80s - 360k floppy drives, then 10Mb hard drives, 3600bps modems, etcc… so, all new tech is expensive and someone has got to be the “fool” to try it out, otherwise, we’d still be driving horses. And counting on our fingers!
Yep same shock with my EV6 losing loads here in Eire. Back to Petrol for me this January 24. Enjoy my fumes. Car dealers ripping us off with lies. Same Kia dealer offered me €41000 for a car that cost €60000 2022. 14000kms on clock. EV Crap.
Some great points, there’s quite a bit of future proofing in this specific car but range is one that will be beaten soon enough. Adrian’s situation has been amplified by VW slashing prices however. Kia so far haven’t gotten into that game… we’ll see!
@@NobbyOnCars Mark, the guy who posted just before you stated that his KIA EV6 lost €19,000 in one year would dispute that! While I’m not anti electric vehicles, I’m keeping my 13 year old diesel going as long as I can until EVs are priced realistically and have decent, achievable range, not that fairytale WLTP bs. Manufacturers and especially our indigenous Irish greedy, lousy service car stealerships are ripping the punters off with high prices (inflated to take advantage of the grants available) and poor residuals.
All well and good until you have to pay $60,000 for a replacement battery
Or just replace a cell if it even happens
A lot of car for 85k.
😯
Not efficient = not environmentally friendly no matter what the fuel. So are we kidding ourselves?
exactly, its utterly pointless when you look at it like that. Virtue signalling middle classers will love it tho.
@@terrydelahunt842it's 80% less carbon than a similarly sized gas SUV over it's life cycle. Facts matter, get it right please.
@@JonathanRootD hahaha, what didn't I get right?! It is utterly pointless because very few people actually need a car that size, the only person mentioning gas cars is you. If that car was electric and half the size you could argue that the manufacturer actually cares about the environment.
That thing is biblical it’s so big !! ridiculous.
Yank Tank
€85k for a KIA lol. Hyundai and KIA are budget brands ffs. Ridiculous looking thing.
They made a premium vehicle that is not budget. If it was under the Genesis brand would you have a different opinion?
@@JonathanRootD no. Genesis=Hyundai.
Exactly! It’s mind blowing that people choose these overpriced, awful looking cars instead of an IX3 or similar electric SUV’s from respectable brands.
@@snackan80why? Exactly this is the underpriced. The bmw has a lot of markup for the brand name.
@@BGfootballfan Well with a BMW or Volvo you would atleast get something of good quality, hence the markup for their brand names. Spending 90 grand for something like this doesn't make sense and most sane people with this kind of money would opt for a nicer make anyway.
Can someone tell me what exactly is eco-friendly about a car this size and weight with a 110kWh battery that probably uses more oil derived products and generates way more CO2 during manufacture than any ICE? EV's like this surely undermine everything we're told about driving electric? Oh, and the price. This is a bloody Kia FFS!
Marketing and government lies make it environmentally friendly
It's compared to similarly Gas sized SUV. And it's a 99.8kWh battery. The life cycle is 80% less carbon than a gas car.
@@JonathanRootD So we can have tank sized cars driving around weighing 3-4 tons with batteries big enough for 2-3 smaller city EV's that chew up roads, and that's ok? It's 100kW/h usable in that battery - it's nearer 110kW/h in actual size. It's still a Kia too - what the heck is going on in this world!
No Way that I’ll give 80k If its not BMW or Mercedes
Kia have got the pricing wrong. 10 - 20K overpriced.
I am tired of EVs. These are toys not cars.
If that were true, then the Tesla Y wouldn't be the best selling car in the world.
Well, they will be taking over sooner or later😂
An absolutely ridiculous car, the bloody weight of for starters, it's going to be banned from the upper levels of carparks, insurance is going to be huge because if it has any kind of a impact the insurance companies get nervous about battery damage, the car is written off like the 2 cases in Canada lately. Buy a ford tourneo of Peugeot or Citroen equivalent diesel or hybrid with money to spare and they will last for decades if serviced properly. The 7 seat EV will be in the scrap yard in less than 10 years because nobody will touch an EV over 8 years old with no long term in large numbers test. There are taxis less than 5 years old with 240,000km with failed main batteries. It's green washing gone mad.
Unfounded and narrow-minded opinion N orth America's car of the year
@@dhhsvis4920 it's facts , example, Aviva insurance are not going to insure new customers who drive Tesla's but will insure existing ones because of repair costs in Europe, and are looking at other brands as well, mainly how they price a policy, and that's from an insider. That car is heavier than a regular 7 or 9 seater MPV. It's battery wont get past 10 years they degrade with age and how much they are used, EVs have their big negatives, open your mind and think logically.
How come there’s 10 year old Leafs with 90%+ battery health? Where are your links to all these failed batteries?
If they are charging 80k, you shouldn't have niggly issues.