ASUS Zephyrus G16 & Zephyrus M16 - GoodBye AMD! 😔
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ม.ค. 2023
- The ASUS Zephyrus G16 has replaced the Zephyrus G15 with a slightly bigger display and using a familiar chassis. The ASUS ROG Zephyrus M16 is now faster and better. Watch for the full first impressions from CES 2023.
ASUS Zephyrus G15 2022 (On sale for $370 off) - go.magik.ly/ml/1pxy6/
ASUS Zephyrus M16 2022 ($250 off) - go.magik.ly/ml/1pxya/
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RIP AMD G16. Does a G16 even make sense now? Let me know how you feel.
I can totally see people buying the G16 for the cheaper price tag, considering the performance that it’ll pack in. That said, I am kinda sad that there’s no AMD in the G16, the G15 and M16 were a good pick between Battery and Efficiency, or pure horsepower.
But yeah, nonetheless I am excited for the new machines.
I am disappointed big! Had great wish to purchase G16 Amd as smaller G15 screen was not to my liking. Now will have to look for a different laptop.
Amd keynote will be on January 5.
G14 and g15 will still be amd because Intel raptor flame will be too hot and gas guzzling for such smaller form factor
I am not expecting much. G14 is no longer part of 'amd advantage' either..
It was very difficult to find amd laptops like zenbook flip 14 last year.
Looks like the OEMs are just going back to what it used to be in pre-zen era.
Sad.
@@vladlazlo raptor lake is hotter and more power hungry than alder lake.
It won't work well for g14 and g15
I’m glad they moved the power plug to the back. It was so weird in the middle of the side lol
Asus just Screwed up BIG TIME! I'm SO SO UPSET they killed the AMD G15. This G16 should have been AMD.
I agree! I love the idea having a choice of good performance better battery life and just all performance. I think the reasoning is that AMD is having a tough time getting enough chips made whereas intel has their own fab and can get these things on the shelves
Strix should stay with AMD and Strix SCAR stick with Intel.
But we have to see what AMD does soon that justifies what ASUS did.
Insane amd is gone from the g15 or g16 so it's the g15 with crap battery life and a bigger screen
@@GerryReid The G14 dropped Radeon graphics too so even it isn't all AMD anymore
@Carson Carolina I don't understand is the AMD refresh bad this year?
Damn i really liked the idea of having the option to choose between AMD and Intel. This are sad news
Me too /=
I'm pretty sure we will see an AMD G16 at Computex in June-July 23. Asus couldn't just launch a new G16 with 6900HX. There are NO Zen 4 mobile processors. Once they are announced and available I think we will see an AMD G16.
little bit sad because supply late is always amd thing
AMD didn't really have much presence in the laptop space. And Asus is the only one that actually put amd on their flagship Zenbooks. Maybe Lenovo too, not sure what their actual flagship is because xD.
Dell XPS and HP dragonfly are intel exclusive even now.
OEMs haven't been ready to trust amd, and amd didn't make that much chips probably due to fear of not being able to sell them all.
Most people who don't know anything about processors are actually familiar with i5 and i7 due to years of advertising. AMD is still a 2nd option for the masses and OEMs don't want to take risks.
But AMDs new naming scheme is going to give them an even worse reputation as you're gonna see a lot of ads with 'with the latest ryzen 7 7000 series processors' with Zen 2 and SQUIP vulnerability xD
I was hoping for a zephyrus laptop with an AMD dragon range CPU
Hope so! 🙏
Wow I just bought my g14 from Best Buy now I’m kinda worry about later updates, either way I love my g14 I could of wish asus kept the amd sideline it’s convenient for people who use amd, maybe we might see some changes knowing that asus they’ll have some new ideas.
The point of the G15 was a great all-round for everyone, especially students. Battery no longer is as good due to intel and most likely more expensive because of Intel's 'Premium'. I had high hopes for Asus, but they made some odd decisions. Although I cannot wait for Razer Blade 14/16/18 for this year. I hope Asus does some software magic that helps battery and doesn't go too crazy on price. Nvidia's new GPU's are very promising. I am going to guess/hoping for AMD presentation that there will be an AMD Advantage G16, like how there's a AMD advantage Asus Strix I believe.
Yep. I don't see how the G16 will not be utterly redundant.
@@anmol3457 honestly. But we still have all of 2023, hopefully Asus has something cooking up thats good.
@@anmol3457 m16 and g16 really a product mess whats the difference really now
Why Razer Blade over an ASUS strix?
@@KevinSmith-em7zk Razer gave me a better experience. It’s way quieter, unless it’s boost mode. I went through 3 different Asus models all together about 6-8 units and all had issues. But if Asus proves me wrong I’ll go with them. It’s just about who gives me a better experience, so far Razer has been the cleanest even in terms of their Razer Synapse.
The Zephyrus M16 2023 with a 4090 would be the perfect laptop for me, if it had the Ethernet port. It's a deal breaker for me that it doesn't have one, so disappointed!
You can get a usb to Ethernet adapter
@@yaboim4thematix pain the ass, and I am using a port that didn't have to be used if I had an ethernet port
It looks awesome! WOW Wonder how much ASUS will 'upgrade' their pricing also...
g14 mini led it is! although the m16 does look nice, but i like the smaller form factor.
I got used to short battery life for laptops so I just use them to have a smaller footprint on my desk and having portable between places where I can plug them, like office to house, coffee shop, etc.
I was hoping for a slightly updated g14 chassis with a full sized SD card slot instead of micro.
Much preferred the nvidia GPU and a ryzen AMD cpu combo in my previous g15
All I wanted them to ever change was the aspect ratio. They did that, but at the cost again! It was all most perfect.. It. Was almost the GOAT 🐐
Do M16 and G16 2023 use the same rubberized material for their keyboard decks? Or they are different?
Guys can someone answer a question i have, on the g16 zephyrus 4070 model i want to buy it says it only has one dim slot, but ive heard from many people that you want dual ram or performance will be tanked, so does this mean i will only be able to have 1 ram stick in my laptop and will performance be less than if i had a laptop with more dim slots?
I personally think the M16 with the animated back is a nice one for the eyes, it's not flashy it's not screaming "OOH FANCY" like RGB and logos.
I’m sure asus will have a mid year Amd refresh because every year Amd does not have enough chips. Zen 4 mobile is going to be in high demand
Dam I have the old g15 from 2021 with the 5800h and battery life is great! I also have the m16 with 11gen intel and boy the battery life sucks on it and it's hot! So i'll have to look someplace else for my laptop needs this year!
couple of things you say are not accurate (fronteras asus webpage) the g16 won't have the miniled display option, the webcam on the g16 is 720p, only the m16 is sporting the 1080p. all of this according to their presentation webpages.
if i want to play games @ 16:9 for the added fov on competitive games can i change the laptop resolution in windows and the game res will there be any difference in image quality to playing 2560x1440p 16:9 to playing 2560x1440p with black bars on my 16:10, thanks.
"Both are getting liquid metal" that spooks me, if you ever need to remove the heatpipes for any reason you risk spillage.
still love my 2021 m16 with i9 rtx 3060 thank you bec of you video best laptop i bought 2 year ago
so the body is all metals? aluminum and magnesium?
do you think an amd g16 will release later on in the year?
It is a shame not having an AMD version but we are gonna have to wait to see how they perform.
They will perform similar to 12th gen in efficiency department. If you check out the video release by intel describing their 13th gen cpu they are all into speed and performance. Didn’t put lot of emphasis on efficiency. Also 13th gen H series has same efficiency cores as 12th gen
Yeah rip battery life gg
@@andreadriscoll1862bro is uninformed 💀
When they start shipping?
so why use this instead of a STRIX? website doesnt really explain the differences much
Really wish Asus kept the AMD CPUs for the G16. Having the choice of better battery or better performance was awesome. But I get it, AMD’s probably having chip shortage issues. Still, it’s sad to see AMD on the G16 go away.
I wonder if only the M16 4090 will have mini led. I would be happy with a mini led M16 with a 4070.
Did they even announce 4070 or 4060? I'd be happy with the 13700 + 4060 + mini led
Name of watch ultra band?
Waiting for Phoenix APU laptops/handheld
Don't see myself playing competitive besides PC
Super disappointing that there won't be an AMD option. The whole reason I am interested in the Zephyrus line over the Strix or some other brand, is the better battery life from AMD. If I wanted the best performance, I would just go with a Strix model. Also sucks they removed the ethernet port, they could have at least added another USB port in its place.
Why on earth did they kill the AMD line... Quite disappointing. Happy i bought a 2021 G15 while i could.
I thought dual channel is not a thing anymore with DDR5?
I hope they have a and version later on
You say HDMI 2.1 but will it be a true HDMI 2.1 on laptops this year. So far all laptops fitted with 2.1 (as far as I’m aware) only offer “fake” HDMI 2.1 with 120hz 4K working but no 10 bit colour, only 8 bit.
Hoping somehow this mid-year asus release g16 amd version
I think the MIni LED has the 240hz, not limit to 165hz
I absolutely love mine so far
how I glad I was able to buy a AMD laptop in 2021. I would not want an intel based laptop with very low battery duration. Even worse, we cannot do any comparison since there will not be an amd model
If you don’t like it this year, they’ll probably change it next year and you can always buy the 2022 versions on sale
My guess is chip shortage. Intel has their own fabs can get products on shelves quickly. AMD is reliant on TSMC. Even last year it took them most of the year to get their laptops. I think tthere will be a G16 AMD when things get better.
Aw come on I was hoping for an AMD Advantage version of the G15...but instead they went completely the other way
Thank you for the excellent review, Matthew! Zephyrus M16 2023 is the better choice for me.
You’re welcome Nick!
More ryzen for the g14. And yes the g16 makes perfect sense if you have a bunch of the old chassis laying around as you make the switch for the newer model. While it's nice to have ryzen as a option, availability always has been a issue with those.
i honesty don't care about the performence it's suffice where it is rn, rather a better cooling system, substantial battery life to avoid battery bloating, better webcam like they could throw in IMX363 sensor and charge a 100$ more, it would be such a viable option, windows laptop are way behind mac in terms of these compartment they should consider it already.
if you don't care about performance go buy a surface book
Newbie here , why a preference for cpu option ?
In short, AMD tends to have cpus that offer better battery life. Intel usually offers better performance at the expense of battery life.
I don't know why the are not going for 16core AMD 7000 series processors. & We know it's going to be much better on batter life compared to 13th gen i9's& i7's pushing 150W+
@@pranaav2027 just launched today
@@jaskiratanand586 Yeah, Turns out they released a version for Laptops.
They probably run hotter and would need a larger chassis much like intel's higher core count ones.
So what's the different between G16 and M16 now??
I think g16 has one RAM stick soldered. Also g16 has less options when it comes to upgradability.
@@vladlazlo never seen or heard about a laptop which is different from another model just because of soldered ram stick lol
Personally I don't care about not having AMD. I've used both Intel and AMD Ryzen (I currently have the 2021 G14 with ryzen 9) and it just doesn't feel any different than my old i5 I used to run... And it's still proven that Intel is faster for gaming, which is why I buy these laptops. I'm almost always plugged in as well, I rarely use my laptop on battery, and when I do it's only for an hour or 2 anyway. It was always just way too much of a pain in the butt to go switch all the power settings to achieve that 10 hour battery life you can get from the G14. It was honestly just gimmicky to me. But I get it, it would still be good to have options. Hopefully they offer AMD later in the year.
No AMD, who needs decent battery life in a Windows laptop anyway. All we want is more performance and heat while plugged in, thanks intel.
Aaand I got Legion Slim 7 with 6800s. Take that ASUS!
As long as the QC stays that bad I will continue to get a free upgrade every two years
It would make much more financial sense, if they fully remove the g16 line up. But retaining two with roughly the same spec? I dont understand this at all ..
How about a strategic plan to downgrade the 'G' series to peasant level while upgrading 'M' series to premium, so that amd would be perceived as the budget option because of it's presence in G and absence on M laptops?
😏🙄.
Makes sense?
fn key lock functional?
“Reminds me of a cheap Las Vegas Casino” this one killed me 🤣🤣🤣
I am a performance guys that's why I prefer Intel.....but there is one laptop that change my mind is the g15..........the AMD and rtx fits like a puzzle.......even though I'm tired of getting it on ebay.......but this year the g16 feels wierd.....in my opinion it's like the AMD meant to be or designed for g series.....but it's ok though can't afford can't complain 😂😂
Is G16 with ddr 4 ram or ddr 5 on asus official website its mentioned ddr 4 and in this vedio it shows its ddr 5 ?????
Whats true
Well. Official is usually more accurate, unlike amd's slides (Ryzen 7950 lol )
@@vladlazlo but now it shows ddr5
You should be able to put 128 ram in16
but wait, i just picked g15 2022 with thick bezel lol, did i make a mistake?
Yes. Because it's on sale now 😂
I don't think there is any hope for the AMD Ryzen variant in the next gen Z13 tablet this year 😞
Nope..tablets are intel exclusive. Zen 2 was a good time to change that and no one cared. Now intel has good products again. So even less of a chance of that happening. Unless you go for onex
@@vladlazlo yeah honestly I don't really care about which brands, as long they can deliver a good products I'm into it, but at this state, Ryzen is still the king of power efficiency which is so good on a tablet form factor and handheld devices.
Exactly! There's going to be 7xxx-E processors for fanless designs. (Probably rebranded Van Gogh, so zen 2). Someone should really release a good tablet with that.
Sadly, you really don't have much of an option in the tablet space.
It's simple. They want to boost the sales of M16. The costlier one.
If you are someone who fancies an AMD chip, Legions would be the way to go.
Personally, I'm glad they are going with Nvidia on all Laptops atleast.
god damnit! they are also ditching amd advantage on g14! that was the thing i was most excited for and they ruined it
also the ethernet port is kinda bummer, i guess i will be buying previous gen
I missed the bestbuy deal because I was expecting a new advantage laptop.
Looks like we won't see anything with amd till June, well other than rebranded zen 2 and 3 maybe.
Asus finally got them monies from Intel
I wonder if asus is going to release an 18 inch version of a zephyrus model.
Doubt it they're leaving that for the Strix lineup
Such a shame. I loved the previous Asus AMD laptops, but hated the design so much I could never bring myself to buy one. Now they've fixed the design, but removed AMD, and with previous experience of how well (poorly) nvidia gpu's run on linux compared to AMD, thats not an option either.
this laptop is going to be MAD expensive
Asus needs to add FN-Lock to their Laptops.
So functionally no difference b/w the two laptops anymore!
Same screen size, same family of processors, same gpus and worse battery life compared to last year(G15)?
This essentially makes M16 redundant. All Asus had to do was put a 16:10 display in last year's G15 and they would have been golden; product differentiation with flexibility. But alas.
It would make the G16 redundant. The M16 has the better chassis since its new and allows a few more features. .
@@MatthewMoniz G16 keeps the ethernet port and will probably be cheaper. The existing chassis on the G lineup is great (been using the 2020 G14 since it launched) so the chassis quality might not be that much of a factor while choosing b/w G16 & M16
That an equal argument can be made for both is testament to the fact that Asus has screwed up their product differentiation.
There used to be a clear choice: if you want a powerful, 14 inch laptop go for the G14. If you need a bigger screen and more power, G15. And lastly, if you want the most powerful of the bunch, M16.
Screen sizes were a differentiating factor, as was the relative performance and the option of an AMD chip. All gone now :(
@@theprovost good point
idk the amd version's battery life but this one actually lasts 8 hours for browsing, watching youtube & editing documents on the silent profile
It's going to be hilarious when all the reviews point out how much worse the power draw and battery life is for an extra like 7% performance in some synthetic benchmarks. What a move.
Strategically jumping back on the top of the line performance bandwagon. A real shame as the balance of strong performance, better battery life and cooler operation was what elevated the G14 above the competition. A 16" AMD would have been excellent.
I just returned a 2022 M16 for a Lenovo Legion Slim. The Asus was a respectable laptop but the minor downsides added up to more than I liked such as; The I/O on the sides, no function lock, Armoury Crate kinda wonky, noisy fans while gaming, half size up/down arrow keys, etc. All minor things but none of these are an issue on my Lenovo.
I had the M16 for a day and returned it. Good laptop overall, but the heat and fan noise killed it for me.
So Legion Slim is not noisy? I was hestitating which of these two to choose but finally bought today M16
@@mih2965 Depends on the model and load but mine is an AMD Advantage model. Intel/Nvidia might be louder but I can't say. The AMD model I run in balanced mode so far and it seems very quiet to me.
Did u ever own a alienware how are they
That was quick Mathew😂😂
LOL
intel charts compare ryzen vs intel performance but intel has 20 more watts of tdp, thats so scummy, but not surprising since its intel
No rj45 jack and only intel on the m16 is a big disappointment unless intel pulls a rabbit out of the hat i will be looking elsewhere for a laptop with better battery life
Why did they produce two of the same? I see no difference
As a intel fan, G16 will be my option
true. its a disappointment for me. i like amd + nvidia. always because of the battery. intel yes is powerful but not that much. id rather go for amd with better battery. in gaming, u dont need cpu much, but gpu
why no LAN-Port for M16?
No clue but it’s g16 only
When will Asus gonna come to their sense that they shouldn't place blinking, distracting LED status in line of sight, under the screen. -*-
I guess I'll just buy last year model with the AMD processor with reduced price.
Removing the ethernet port would mean immediate dismissal from me.
Lighter colors are always good to have and I prefer them.
Not sure why they don't include a proper SD card slot which can be used also for a microSD, but whatever.
As for the removal of AMD, I don't like that even though the last time I bought an AMD CPU was the Duron, no...wait, it was the Athlon X2. I think...hmm, ok let me rephrase it, even though I haven't bought an AMD CPU since I bought an Intel C2D (the first one).
I am in favor of more options for the customer.
Lol. Buy an adapter for Ethernet.
@@testus86 lol no.
16 inch laptops should have number pad
Amd combo was great for Linux 😭
Here I thought the G series was AMD while M series was Intel. They probably want to avoid using Ryzen 6000 series. Maybe next year Asus. Maybe next year
I thought so too.
G amd exclusive.
M for intel.
I feel the magic sauce is lost when going to Intel for the g15’s replacement. AMD is king with it comes to efficiency and battery life and Intel is just too hot and power hungry for a portable thin and light laptop. The zephyrus was fantastic in terms of battery life for a gaming laptop and Intel does ruin that. I owned a 2021 zephyrus and that was the perfect balance of power and portability, I have a 3070 desktop and it ran around 75% of the performance of that desktop which is impressive for a thin and light gaming laptop
On bright side they finally got into X lineup of Alienware 🤣
Strix should stay with AMD and Strix SCAR stick with Intel.
But we have to see what AMD does soon that justifies what ASUS did.
G15 and 15 are about the same size
I'm enjoying the m16 2022 (12900h/3070ti) model Hamdou'Allah and it's such a beautiful beast.
I don't game but do lots of coding, 3d graphics work, video editing and what not.
The size and teraflop capacity is mind boggling. Super super inlove with it and grateful we're in a time to be so spoiled with such great laptops 🤲
Not only is there no AMD G16, but the G16 feels horribly redundant for both being nearly identical and losing features that it shouldn't.
I guess they went with AMD for power/efficiency/cooling reasons, amd 2023 might not be as efficient compared to intel anymore
Wrong
@@xruud24 you won’t know unless someone has tested both, and I’m pretty sure that’s the reason
@@libra2054 no I know, and that’s not the reason
Damn....I should of waited
I'm pretty sure it's because of the dying AMD versions which happened a lot on the g14.
We probably are going to see more amd systems
WHERE'S MY 16:10 ALL-AMD G15!?
I would still prefer the G14 and that's probably gonna retain AMD!
G14 will still use AMD
Chill, They'll have AMD, just later in Q2. Probably due to supply issue. Keep your shirts on.
This is why I prefer apple silicon, windows laptops only care about performance.
All I want to know is if there will be a 4060 with the mini LED for under £2000.
If not, then I couldn't give a shit, because the £3200 price tag on the 4080 is absolutely ridiculous.