just taken up fishing again after 25yrs i managed to catch two very small tench ans a few roach, having viewed your video which wqas very clear and well presented I shall be trying out your set up thank you for the video
Glad I found you. Just starting coarse fishing again after many years and like the economical way you show how to use these techniques correctly. As said previously, you have really good presentation skills. Thankyou.
I've used the lift method for fishing for 40+ years and simply love it. Though my shotting style is slightly different to yours. Once I've plumbed the depth of the swim, I'd put my bulk of shot directly under the float and my _"tell tail"_ shot would be just a BB some 8 inches from the hook so it would rest a couple inches off the bottom of the lake. I used this method extensively when I fished for either bream or tench. A lake I fished in Sussex was some 8 to 9 foot deep and I'd be fishing some 25 to 30 yards out. Once I'd cast out, I'd see the float slowly sink as that bottom shot came into play. Bites were virtually unmissable too as the float rose some 5 inches up as the fish took the bait. Nice video.
Many thanks, I think it’s the most exciting method for catching tench - sitting on your hands, waiting for the float to rise while the tench are bubbling in the swim. 🐟🐟
@@tight.lines.chris.miller I used to fish with a couple friends back in Sussex. They'd see my float moving about and dipping and say "You've got a bite. Strike!" But I'd tell them, "Just watch". The the float would rise all the way up to the body and then I'd strike. They were quite amazed. The next time we went fishing, they both used the Drennan Driftbeater Floats.
Thanks I really enjoyed the way you presented the video. An excellent way for somebody like myself to pick up useful knowledge as I am not an experienced angler. Keep making them!
I’ve scattered most of the lift method videos on the internet and this one is probably by far the best one out there. It has a good and relaxing tempo to it. Very straight to the point/clear explanations with great tips and tricks along the way. Perfect video voice as well. Keep tight lines up. Best regards from Sweden 🇸🇪 Chris 🎣
You know some Swedish, cool! I’ve have a couple of questions. You mention the driftbeater float and the olivette in-line. Which size/weight do you use? Is it always the same weight/size as in the video or does it depend on if it’s blowing and so on?
Hej Chris, I use the 3AA (2.5g) Drennan Driftbeater floats and 4g in-line olivettes. The weight needs to be a bit heavier than what is needed to sink the float. I find that many lakes have an uneven bottom, having a heavier weight allows you to release line from the reel to ‘cock’ the float to the correct depth. I’m usually fishing close in, often less than two rod lengths from the bank, Tight lines.
Thank you very kindly for your answer, very much appreciated you know!! Yeah I’ve realized that the bottom tend to be uneven so it’s pretty hard to lock down a perfect anchor with just a bit of the float top visible. Either the top of the float ends up under the surface or way above. I’ve only got it perfect one time so far but I’ll keep trying until I get it right. Tight lines and keep your god job up.
A very good method for carp to,which I've used over the years.Again sweetcorn is a very good hook bait and as mentioned-you know for sure that if the float rises its a bite,nothing else can make it rise.The split shot nails the line to the lake bed and then you adjust the float so it sits the depth you want on the surface So when the float lifts,you know something has lifted the split shot-hopefully a nice carp or tench 🙂
Great video, thanks for posting. Spent my childhood trying to catch the tench in that very lake but never managed too. I'll be visiting again soon, and trying this method, as I've just joined up after a very long absence!
Welcome back to GAC Phil, early morning and evenings work best for me on this lake. I suggest you use big baits to avoid being plagued by the small rudd. Tight lines.
Hi Chris,just watched your video,on lift method. The lake looks like one of Glamorgan Anglers club waters I have fished for 20 years,but not for 10 years.
Thanks Aldo, I’m posting an updated Lift Method video in a few days. If you subscribe, you’ll get notifications of new content when available. Tight lines.
I really must congratulate you on this video Chris. Started using the lift method, or "laying off" as my Grampy used to call it, in about 1982 whilst Tench fishing in the Cotswolds aged 12. I love Drennan kit too and my go to rod is a lovely Drennan Tench Float from the same period. Thanks for sharing!
@@tight.lines.chris.miller Well. That was worth a go. Even if my attempt at trying this method did turn into something of a farce. I visited a tackle shop and picked up a Drennan driftbeater. I immediately noticed there was no eye. The shop assistant thought it had been painted over as sometimes happens. Then the manager pointed out that these floats don't have eyes now as they are intended to be partnered with Drennan's "Swivel Float Attachments" to allow easy swap-out of the float. So I bought these along with the float stops the store assistant recommended and some 2.5g Drennan in line olivettes. This evening I set up exactly as planned and then the first disaster happened. The eye of the float attachment was wider than the float stop and so the float dropped down to the Olivette. I fixed this with a couple of dust shot and cast out; only to find the driftbeater was too buoyant for the Olivette to sink it. I then had to cut the line and set up using a Drennan Peacock fitted with some trusty old float rubbers so I could slide the float up and down easily in the good old fashioned way! When I went to slide the Olivette further from the hook the little rubber sleeve inside it came out leaving things looking rather untidy. Nevertheless I soldiered on and tried an underarm cast beyond the bulrushes. The trusty peacock sank a few inches under the surface. Too shallow. I retrieved some line moving the peacock a few inches nearer in to the bank and it lay flat. Too deep. Gradually it became obvious that the bottom varies considerably in depth and I was unable to find a spot where the float was positioned correctly. I then cut my losses and set up a standard float rig fished until dark and didn't have a bite. First time I have blanked on this lake this season. Not necessarily giving up on this method but I found it very difficult indeed and definitely need more thought as to how to make this work!
@@Pickle69ize wow, sounds like you’ve had a few issues. The last driftbeater floats I bought also had the eye painted over and I had to use a pin to open it up. I’ve found that a 4g olivette is heavy enough to sink the 3AAA float. One of my local lakes has varying depths, so I set the float over depth and tighten down to the float, trapping the line on the rod rest. This saves a lot of time resetting the depth. I hope your next session is more successful 🐟🐟
@@tight.lines.chris.miller thanks Chris. Its just fishing... Trial and error. Ordered new float stops and olivettes. Will definitely persist and crack this for sure! Tight lines buddy!
Hi Chris. Thanks for this useful video. I've recently started fishing with the lift method for tench as of last year. What a fantastic way to fish for them! Float fishing is the most enjoyable way to fish in my opinion anyway and this method is even more enjoyable. Keep the videos coming 😂👍🐟 All the best.
Yes, I agree, a tench on the float is worth 5 on the method feeder or lead. I’m glad you enjoyed the video, I’ve done a shorter video on the lift method with a centrepin reel too. Tight lines 🐟🐟
@@tight.lines.chris.miller It definitely is! I've seen all of your videos mate, enjoying the content. Will hopefully be able to see some more tench related vids soon. Tight lines 😁👍🐟
Really informative video, link this in some of the fishing groups on Facebook and you'll soon see your subscribers go up. Look forward to future videos.
Fantastic video, have never used lift bite technique as yet but your explanation is top drawer, i have a pond i fish very similar to the estate pond you were at that has previously held Scottish Tench record so definitely going to try this set up. The tip for using prawn as hook bait, i will definitely be trying that out. When plumbing up is it s case of sliding Olivette to loop end , then attaching hook of length desired ?
Hi Andrew, yes you can fish your hook length knot to knot, or use a small quick change swivel. On this occasion I was fishing straight through and as the inline olivette is held in place with float stops, there’s no damage or weak spots along the line.
See that's what I've been doing wrong then, I've been having the main shot on the line then like an anchor lower down nearer the hook, I'm hoping to catch some tench this year I'm setting my sights high on getting a proper beasty so any tips gratefully received.
The beauty of this approach Mike is no damage to the line, so it gives you extra confidence if fishing close to weed or lilies. I’m planning another video soon using inline method feeders, a great way to catch tench, bream and carp. If you subscribe, you’ll get notifications of my new posts on TH-cam. Tight lines and good luck
Hi chris great vid, i was well impressed in how you hooked the prawn. I use prawns very regular as well as i love my perch from october through winter till spring. At mo im now going to miss summer and prob wont get to fish untill october as just had my first knee replacement. While resting im trying to find someone who sells onion floats AKA missile floats. No doubt youve heard or might have some. Great for casting right up to pads without fear of hooklenght getting caught in pads, due to the flight and way the hooklenght lands behind float instead of travevelling in front of float. Dont knw why they stopped making them. Anyway looking forward to next vid and more all the best chris.
Thanks Barry, I’m pleased you enjoyed it. I’m uploading a video about catching Crucian carp in the next few days. I hope you’re able to get on the bank soon. Tight lines
Very good, but a little more info on getting the depth and shotting right would be very useful. I'm guessing the weight of the Olivette is more than needed to sink the float entirely, so that if you cast out and find the float has vanished, you know you're under-depth? Once the float lies flat on the surface, you know you're def (slightly) over-depth (assumes you have plumbed swim before and are in the right ball park) and can tighten up to have the float cocked at the right depth?
You’re correct Mark. I use a 4g olvitte which sinks a 3AAA Driftbeater float. If you are a few inches over depth - don’t worry, just tighten down to the float until the right amount of tip is showing. I trap the line on my rod rest. If a fish picks up the weight of the olivette, the float will rise (even if it’s set a bit too deep). This is useful when the bottom of the lake in uneven 🐟🐟
Hi Chris I enjoyed your video very much you explained things very well and showed each step. So am I tight in thinking it doesn’t matter what weight Olivetti used ?
Hi Maxine, the olivette or weight needs to be heavy enough to sink the float. You can then adjust the height of the float from the weight on the bottom. If the bottom of the lake is uneven, you can fish slightly over depth and tighten the line down to the float or trap your line on the rod rest. The float will rise if a fish picks up your bait. I hope this helps.
Cracking little video, lift float being a favourite method of mine. Quick question though please - what are the rod rests you have your rods on? They look good rather than buzz bars. Also, have you tried cockles for tench? One of my favourite baits. Tight lines.
Thanks Jason, I use foam quiver tip rod rests for barbel on the Wye, and for my float fishing too. I use them front and back. You’re right about cockles too - a great bait for tench and they keep for ages in the fridge too. Tight lines
Thanks Paul, using the inline olivette means no damage to the line, just float stops that can be easily adjusted to change depth or the distance to your hook. Tight lines
Hi Chris, if you don’t mind me asking what’s the name of the lake you are on in the video And also very helpful video, I know where I have been going wrong
Hi chris, have recently purchased a 2.5g driftbeater float and 2.5g olivettes, trouble is the 2.5g olivettes was not enough to sink the float, i have now purchased 4.0g olivettes and yet to try them out, can you tell me what weight olivettes you use for your lift method ? great video and cant wait to try this out 👍
Hi Danny, I’m also using 4g olivettes as there’s no problem over shotting the float. It also helps your hook bait to get down to the bottom quicker to avoid nuisance fish such as small rudd. Best of luck, I hope this method works for you 🐟🐟
What kind of chair are you using in the fishing video, ray is looking for one for float fishing? What brand ? Where did you get it ? Thank you for your time.
Hello Ray, it’s a Korum Supalight chair - a few years old now, but very light and easy to carry. They produce a similar chair now, so take a look a the Korum website.
A really good explanation of lift shot and definitely helps and shows me where I’ve been going wrong with my Tench Fishing. Just one question, Does this method still result it lip hooked fish or are they more likely to swallow the hook (ie then needing a disgorger to remove)? Thank you in advance. 👍🎣
Hi Julie, all the fish I’ve caught on the lift method have been lip hooked as I strike when the float rises or shortly afterwards. Some tench will spit the hook out quickly when they feel the weight of the olivette, so you’ve got to be quick or you’ll miss a few bites. Best of luck.
I caught three on prawns this morning with the lift method, but I hair-rigged them. Strangely, I didn't get a single lift, all the bites took the float under. I used an AA three inches from the float but want to change to an olivette to protect the line. What weight olivette is this?
Looks like they are feeding confidently at the moment Kerry, sometimes the float just disappears. I use a 4 gram olivette to sink a 3 AAA float. Best of luck 🐟🐟
What's the benefit of using an olivette over say an SSG with a less boyant float. Is there a risk that 4g is noticeable when the fish picks it up and so there's more chance they eject the bait? Intuitively I'd want to use a float with a lower bouyency than the 3AAA that you use.
There’s no hard and fast rule on this, just use what you prefer. You can go lighter as long as the weight sinks the float. The benefit of the olivette over a swan shot is there is no damage to the line as it’s held in place with float stops. Although it’s heavier, I’ve not had the issue you describe as the float lifts straight away and I strike while it’s rising. Best of luck 🐟
@@Accyboom hello, I tie the hook onto the mainline and then tie a short hair onto the eye of the hook with 3lb line. Then I use a small piece of silicon tube on the shank of the hook, this allows the hair to come off the bend of the hook (rather than where it’s tied on to the eye of the hook)
Hi Shaun, most of the lakes I fish have uneven depths, so I generally fish slightly over depth and tighten down to the right level trapping the line under a foam quiver rod rest. It’s a case of trial and error really, until you’re happy with how much float tip is showing. Tight lines
Hi, I see that you use line stops to attach your float. I his is commonly used technique. Is there any sensible reason why I can not use a piece of silicone tube to secure the float to the line? That is to pass the line through the rubber tube and then push the end of the float into the tube so fixing the float to the nylon.
Hi Ken, yes this would work as long as it holds the float in position and allows you to alter the depth, if you need to. I use floats stops as I buy them in bulk, so much cheaper.
@@tight.lines.chris.millerHi, what I want to know is why has the angling community switched to using shot or rubber float stops to secure a bottom-only float. I used the rubber band or tube method from the peacock quill era to Wind-beater times. It was a safe and simple technique. BTW, I used Richard Walker’s Permasink compound to sink the rod to float line.
I use 8lb line when fishing close to lillies and I’ve not had a line break yet. But if the line does break, the olivette is held in place by float stops, which will slide along the line if snagged and allow the weight to come off. I hope this helps
It depends on the amount of weed and how close I’m fishing to lilies. To be honest, I’ve not found much difference using the lift method, so a minimum of 6lb line, but currently I’m using 8lb Daiwa Sensor straight through, which means I can stop tench getting into the lilies.
hi chris i use the same rig! do you balance the olivette agains the shotting of the float ie...2gram ollivette ..if the float takes 2 gram of loading...cheers...
Hi, I overshot the float and fish it over-depth, just tighten down so the the tip of the float is just showing. I trap the line under the rod rest rest, so when the float rises you know a fish has picked up your bait and lift the rod. Tight lines
Hi Matt, I use a 4g Drennan inline olivetter with a 3AAA driftbeater float. This sinks the float nicely, but is not too heavy when the tench picks up the bait
Hi Ted, I trap the float with rubber float stops either side of the eye on the float. This means you can change the depth without damaging the line, which can sometimes happen with split shot damaging the line when moved
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You have a really nice voice for explaining this, and a nice video to boot.
Many thanks, I hope it helps you to catch more fish. Tight lines
just taken up fishing again after 25yrs i managed to catch two very small tench ans a few roach, having viewed your video which wqas very clear and well presented I shall be trying out your set up thank you for the video
Thanks David, I’m pleased you enjoyed it - best of luck and welcome back to fishing 🐟🐟
Glad I found you. Just starting coarse fishing again after many years and like the economical way you show how to use these techniques correctly. As said previously, you have really good presentation skills. Thankyou.
That’s great, glad you found my videos interesting- there are more to come 🐟🐟
I've used the lift method for fishing for 40+ years and simply love it. Though my shotting style is slightly different to yours.
Once I've plumbed the depth of the swim, I'd put my bulk of shot directly under the float and my _"tell tail"_ shot would be just a BB some 8 inches from the hook so it would rest a couple inches off the bottom of the lake. I used this method extensively when I fished for either bream or tench.
A lake I fished in Sussex was some 8 to 9 foot deep and I'd be fishing some 25 to 30 yards out. Once I'd cast out, I'd see the float slowly sink as that bottom shot came into play. Bites were virtually unmissable too as the float rose some 5 inches up as the fish took the bait.
Nice video.
Many thanks, I think it’s the most exciting method for catching tench - sitting on your hands, waiting for the float to rise while the tench are bubbling in the swim. 🐟🐟
@@tight.lines.chris.miller I used to fish with a couple friends back in Sussex. They'd see my float moving about and dipping and say "You've got a bite. Strike!" But I'd tell them, "Just watch".
The the float would rise all the way up to the body and then I'd strike. They were quite amazed. The next time we went fishing, they both used the Drennan Driftbeater Floats.
Excellent video, thanks for taking the time to explain the rig. I will definitely be trying this for the elusive tench in my local pond! Tight lines
Thanks Alex, I’m glad you found it useful, if you have any questions, post them on here and I’ll do my best to answer them. Tight lines
Thanks I really enjoyed the way you presented the video. An excellent way for somebody like myself to pick up useful knowledge as I am not an experienced angler. Keep making them!
Thanks Garry, I’m glad you enjoyed my video - there are more to come, you’ll be notified of my new videos, if you subscribe to my channel 🐟🐟
I’ve scattered most of the lift method videos on the internet and this one is probably by far the best one out there. It has a good and relaxing tempo to it. Very straight to the point/clear explanations with great tips and tricks along the way. Perfect video voice as well. Keep tight lines up. Best regards from Sweden 🇸🇪 Chris 🎣
Tack ska du ha Chris, I’m glad you found the video useful, I’ve got more planned for the next few months, tight lines 🐟🐟🐟
You know some Swedish, cool! I’ve have a couple of questions. You mention the driftbeater float and the olivette in-line. Which size/weight do you use? Is it always the same weight/size as in the video or does it depend on if it’s blowing and so on?
Hej Chris, I use the 3AA (2.5g) Drennan Driftbeater floats and 4g in-line olivettes. The weight needs to be a bit heavier than what is needed to sink the float. I find that many lakes have an uneven bottom, having a heavier weight allows you to release line from the reel to ‘cock’ the float to the correct depth. I’m usually fishing close in, often less than two rod lengths from the bank, Tight lines.
Thank you very kindly for your answer, very much appreciated you know!! Yeah I’ve realized that the bottom tend to be uneven so it’s pretty hard to lock down a perfect anchor with just a bit of the float top visible. Either the top of the float ends up under the surface or way above. I’ve only got it perfect one time so far but I’ll keep trying until I get it right. Tight lines and keep your god job up.
A very good method for carp to,which I've used over the years.Again sweetcorn is a very good hook bait and as mentioned-you know for sure that if the float rises its a bite,nothing else can make it rise.The split shot nails the line to the lake bed and then you adjust the float so it sits the depth you want on the surface
So when the float lifts,you know something has lifted the split shot-hopefully a nice carp or tench 🙂
Best explanation on TH-cam, thank you!
Thanks Aaron, I hope this method works for you 🐟🐟
Great video, thanks for posting.
Spent my childhood trying to catch the tench in that very lake but never managed too.
I'll be visiting again soon, and trying this method, as I've just joined up after a very long absence!
Welcome back to GAC Phil, early morning and evenings work best for me on this lake. I suggest you use big baits to avoid being plagued by the small rudd. Tight lines.
@@tight.lines.chris.miller thank you. May see you on the bank at some point.
Hi Chris,just watched your video,on lift method.
The lake looks like one of Glamorgan Anglers club waters I have fished for 20 years,but not for 10 years.
I am new to fishing. This is clear, concise and helpful. Thanks Chris. Good demo.
Thanks Aldo, I’m posting an updated Lift Method video in a few days. If you subscribe, you’ll get notifications of new content when available. Tight lines.
Great first video. Nice n chilled and no banging music !
Perfect 👍
Many thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed it 🐟🐟
Great video. Coming back to fishing after a overdue gap and found this informative and well presented
Many thanks Jason, I’m pleased you found it useful. Tight lines 🐟🐟
First video I've watched that explains the lift method really really well! Will definitely be giving it a shot when I'm back in Ireland next week!
Great, best of luck. If you have any questions, let me know and I’ll do my best to answer them. Tight lines
Good stuff Chris, heading out in the morning to our local Canal and as usual there won’t be much sleep tonight with the excitement 👍
Best of luck tomorrow Clive, tight lines
I really must congratulate you on this video Chris. Started using the lift method, or "laying off" as my Grampy used to call it, in about 1982 whilst Tench fishing in the Cotswolds aged 12. I love Drennan kit too and my go to rod is a lovely Drennan Tench Float from the same period. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for your comments James - it’s my favourite way of catching tench 🐟🐟
@@tight.lines.chris.miller Well. That was worth a go. Even if my attempt at trying this method did turn into something of a farce. I visited a tackle shop and picked up a Drennan driftbeater. I immediately noticed there was no eye. The shop assistant thought it had been painted over as sometimes happens. Then the manager pointed out that these floats don't have eyes now as they are intended to be partnered with Drennan's "Swivel Float Attachments" to allow easy swap-out of the float. So I bought these along with the float stops the store assistant recommended and some 2.5g Drennan in line olivettes. This evening I set up exactly as planned and then the first disaster happened. The eye of the float attachment was wider than the float stop and so the float dropped down to the Olivette. I fixed this with a couple of dust shot and cast out; only to find the driftbeater was too buoyant for the Olivette to sink it. I then had to cut the line and set up using a Drennan Peacock fitted with some trusty old float rubbers so I could slide the float up and down easily in the good old fashioned way! When I went to slide the Olivette further from the hook the little rubber sleeve inside it came out leaving things looking rather untidy. Nevertheless I soldiered on and tried an underarm cast beyond the bulrushes. The trusty peacock sank a few inches under the surface. Too shallow. I retrieved some line moving the peacock a few inches nearer in to the bank and it lay flat. Too deep. Gradually it became obvious that the bottom varies considerably in depth and I was unable to find a spot where the float was positioned correctly. I then cut my losses and set up a standard float rig fished until dark and didn't have a bite. First time I have blanked on this lake this season. Not necessarily giving up on this method but I found it very difficult indeed and definitely need more thought as to how to make this work!
@@Pickle69ize wow, sounds like you’ve had a few issues. The last driftbeater floats I bought also had the eye painted over and I had to use a pin to open it up. I’ve found that a 4g olivette is heavy enough to sink the 3AAA float. One of my local lakes has varying depths, so I set the float over depth and tighten down to the float, trapping the line on the rod rest. This saves a lot of time resetting the depth. I hope your next session is more successful 🐟🐟
@@tight.lines.chris.miller thanks Chris. Its just fishing... Trial and error. Ordered new float stops and olivettes. Will definitely persist and crack this for sure! Tight lines buddy!
Really enjoyed this video and your relaxed style, please do more. Lift method is often dismissed as old fashioned, but works really well
Thanks Jerry, I’m pleased you enjoyed the video - there are more to come 🐟🐟
Hi Chris. Thanks for this useful video. I've recently started fishing with the lift method for tench as of last year. What a fantastic way to fish for them! Float fishing is the most enjoyable way to fish in my opinion anyway and this method is even more enjoyable. Keep the videos coming 😂👍🐟 All the best.
Yes, I agree, a tench on the float is worth 5 on the method feeder or lead. I’m glad you enjoyed the video, I’ve done a shorter video on the lift method with a centrepin reel too. Tight lines 🐟🐟
@@tight.lines.chris.miller It definitely is! I've seen all of your videos mate, enjoying the content. Will hopefully be able to see some more tench related vids soon. Tight lines 😁👍🐟
Only just found your channel and glad I have. Good tips…👍
I’m glad you’ve enjoyed it, tight lines 🐟
Going to try this set up this weekend at packington somers.
Great video really got some info on how this works thanks
Best of luck Dave, it’s a great way to catch tench, tight lines
Just watched a few of your videos. Really useful, I’ll be trying the lift method at the weekend. 👍🏻🎣
Thanks Bazza, I’m glad you found my videos useful, tight lines
Really informative video, link this in some of the fishing groups on Facebook and you'll soon see your subscribers go up. Look forward to future videos.
Thanks for subscribing - more videos to come, thanks for the Facebook tip
Very clear explanation, clear and to the point.
Thanks Mike, more videos to come, tight lines
Great video, really helpful. Will be trying in the coming weeks 👍
Best of luck James, let me know if you have any questions, tight lines
Great Video! I love tench, and the Lift Method
Thanks Patrick, tight lines
I love tench to caught loads of them
Cracking video, I've just come across your channel, very enjoyable, good health and safe travels, cheers craig
Thanks Craig, I’m glad you enjoyed it, tight lines and wet nets
Fantastic video, have never used lift bite technique as yet but your explanation is top drawer, i have a pond i fish very similar to the estate pond you were at that has previously held Scottish Tench record so definitely going to try this set up.
The tip for using prawn as hook bait, i will definitely be trying that out. When plumbing up is it s case of sliding Olivette to loop end , then attaching hook of length desired ?
Hi Andrew, yes you can fish your hook length knot to knot, or use a small quick change swivel. On this occasion I was fishing straight through and as the inline olivette is held in place with float stops, there’s no damage or weak spots along the line.
See that's what I've been doing wrong then, I've been having the main shot on the line then like an anchor lower down nearer the hook, I'm hoping to catch some tench this year I'm setting my sights high on getting a proper beasty so any tips gratefully received.
The beauty of this approach Mike is no damage to the line, so it gives you extra confidence if fishing close to weed or lilies. I’m planning another video soon using inline method feeders, a great way to catch tench, bream and carp. If you subscribe, you’ll get notifications of my new posts on TH-cam. Tight lines and good luck
Hi chris great vid, i was well impressed in how you hooked the prawn. I use prawns very regular as well as i love my perch from october through winter till spring. At mo im now going to miss summer and prob wont get to fish untill october as just had my first knee replacement. While resting im trying to find someone who sells onion floats AKA missile floats. No doubt youve heard or might have some. Great for casting right up to pads without fear of hooklenght getting caught in pads, due to the flight and way the hooklenght lands behind float instead of travevelling in front of float. Dont knw why they stopped making them. Anyway looking forward to next vid and more all the best chris.
Thanks Barry, I’m pleased you enjoyed it. I’m uploading a video about catching Crucian carp in the next few days. I hope you’re able to get on the bank soon. Tight lines
Chris Miller thanks Chris looking forward to the crucian vid love them.
Very good, but a little more info on getting the depth and shotting right would be very useful. I'm guessing the weight of the Olivette is more than needed to sink the float entirely, so that if you cast out and find the float has vanished, you know you're under-depth? Once the float lies flat on the surface, you know you're def (slightly) over-depth (assumes you have plumbed swim before and are in the right ball park) and can tighten up to have the float cocked at the right depth?
You’re correct Mark. I use a 4g olvitte which sinks a 3AAA Driftbeater float. If you are a few inches over depth - don’t worry, just tighten down to the float until the right amount of tip is showing. I trap the line on my rod rest. If a fish picks up the weight of the olivette, the float will rise (even if it’s set a bit too deep). This is useful when the bottom of the lake in uneven 🐟🐟
Great video, really well explained
Much appreciated Scott, more videos to come
Hi Chris
I enjoyed your video very much you explained things very well and showed each step. So am I tight in thinking it doesn’t matter what weight Olivetti used ?
Hi Maxine, the olivette or weight needs to be heavy enough to sink the float. You can then adjust the height of the float from the weight on the bottom. If the bottom of the lake is uneven, you can fish slightly over depth and tighten the line down to the float or trap your line on the rod rest. The float will rise if a fish picks up your bait. I hope this helps.
Brilliant a very good first video. Thanks.
Many thanks, I’m adding new content every month. If you subscribe, you’ll get notified each time I post a new video, tight lines
Really enjoyed your video. Thanks
Thanks Michael, I hope you found it useful - tight lines 🐟🐟
Cracking little video, lift float being a favourite method of mine. Quick question though please - what are the rod rests you have your rods on? They look good rather than buzz bars. Also, have you tried cockles for tench? One of my favourite baits. Tight lines.
Thanks Jason, I use foam quiver tip rod rests for barbel on the Wye, and for my float fishing too. I use them front and back. You’re right about cockles too - a great bait for tench and they keep for ages in the fridge too. Tight lines
Beautiful video!
Really enjoyed the video thanks and tight lines
Many thanks, tight lines
Nice video although I have been fishing the method for years had not thought of using Olivet's thanks.
Thanks Paul, using the inline olivette means no damage to the line, just float stops that can be easily adjusted to change depth or the distance to your hook. Tight lines
Very well presented clear and concise - thank you
Thanks John, I’m glad you enjoyed it - more to come, tight lines
Hi Chris, if you don’t mind me asking what’s the name of the lake you are on in the video
And also very helpful video, I know where I have been going wrong
Hello, it’s an estate lake in South Wales (with a ban on publicity). I’m pleased you found the video helpful, best of luck 🐟🐟
Great video.....more tench tips please.
Thanks Jamie - will do. Tight lines
Hi chris, have recently purchased a 2.5g driftbeater float and 2.5g olivettes, trouble is the 2.5g olivettes was not enough to sink the float, i have now purchased 4.0g olivettes and yet to try them out, can you tell me what weight olivettes you use for your lift method ? great video and cant wait to try this out 👍
Hi Danny, I’m also using 4g olivettes as there’s no problem over shotting the float. It also helps your hook bait to get down to the bottom quicker to avoid nuisance fish such as small rudd. Best of luck, I hope this method works for you 🐟🐟
Going to try this when it starts to warm up
Best of luck, it’s a great way to catch tench and the odd carp too, tight lines
What kind of chair are you using in the fishing video, ray is looking for one for float fishing? What brand ? Where did you get it ? Thank you for your time.
Hello Ray, it’s a Korum Supalight chair - a few years old now, but very light and easy to carry. They produce a similar chair now, so take a look a the Korum website.
A really good explanation of lift shot and definitely helps and shows me where I’ve been going wrong with my Tench Fishing. Just one question, Does this method still result it lip hooked fish or are they more likely to swallow the hook (ie then needing a disgorger to remove)? Thank you in advance. 👍🎣
Hi Julie, all the fish I’ve caught on the lift method have been lip hooked as I strike when the float rises or shortly afterwards. Some tench will spit the hook out quickly when they feel the weight of the olivette, so you’ve got to be quick or you’ll miss a few bites. Best of luck.
Chris Miller Ah that’s great! Thank you! 👍🎣
I caught three on prawns this morning with the lift method, but I hair-rigged them. Strangely, I didn't get a single lift, all the bites took the float under.
I used an AA three inches from the float but want to change to an olivette to protect the line.
What weight olivette is this?
Looks like they are feeding confidently at the moment Kerry, sometimes the float just disappears. I use a 4 gram olivette to sink a 3 AAA float. Best of luck 🐟🐟
Hi Chris, I've been using BB shot. What weight are the olivettes you use, please? I've got 0.75g - 2.0g.
@@Smiffy830 hello, I use an inline olivette that’s heavy enough to sink the float. I’m using a 3AAA driftbeater float and a 4g olivette sinks it.
@tight.lines.chris.miller Nice one Chris, X 2 2g will do me nicely, thanks for getting back to me 🐟🪱🎣👍
What's the benefit of using an olivette over say an SSG with a less boyant float. Is there a risk that 4g is noticeable when the fish picks it up and so there's more chance they eject the bait? Intuitively I'd want to use a float with a lower bouyency than the 3AAA that you use.
There’s no hard and fast rule on this, just use what you prefer. You can go lighter as long as the weight sinks the float. The benefit of the olivette over a swan shot is there is no damage to the line as it’s held in place with float stops. Although it’s heavier, I’ve not had the issue you describe as the float lifts straight away and I strike while it’s rising. Best of luck 🐟
Might sound like a stupid question , what weight of olivette do i use ?
Thanks
Hello, I use a 4g olivette which is heavy enough to sink the 3AAA driftbeater float. 🐟🐟
Great information subscribed to watch more Cheers.
Thanks Alan, I’m glad you enjoyed them - more to come, kind regards, Chris
Great video. Can the lift method work with hair rigged baits such as pellets or is it best with baits directly on the hook?
Hello, you can use hair rigged baits or put your bait directly on the hook. Both methods are affective. Tight lines
Is there a particular knot you'd use for tying a hook length to the mainline so I could use a knotless knot?
@@Accyboom hello, I tie the hook onto the mainline and then tie a short hair onto the eye of the hook with 3lb line. Then I use a small piece of silicon tube on the shank of the hook, this allows the hair to come off the bend of the hook (rather than where it’s tied on to the eye of the hook)
Excellent stuff
Hi Chris is the weight enough to sink the float and do you fish it dead depth or slightly over and tighten up to get the float at right level
Hi Shaun, most of the lakes I fish have uneven depths, so I generally fish slightly over depth and tighten down to the right level trapping the line under a foam quiver rod rest. It’s a case of trial and error really, until you’re happy with how much float tip is showing. Tight lines
Hi,
I see that you use line stops to attach your float. I his is commonly used technique. Is there any sensible reason why I can not use a piece of silicone tube to secure the float to the line? That is to pass the line through the rubber tube and then push the end of the float into the tube so fixing the float to the nylon.
Hi Ken, yes this would work as long as it holds the float in position and allows you to alter the depth, if you need to. I use floats stops as I buy them in bulk, so much cheaper.
@@tight.lines.chris.millerHi, what I want to know is why has the angling community switched to using shot or rubber float stops to secure a bottom-only float. I used the rubber band or tube method from the peacock quill era to Wind-beater times. It was a safe and simple technique. BTW, I used Richard Walker’s Permasink compound to sink the rod to float line.
If the line breaks whats to prevent the fish dragging the weight behind it?
I use 8lb line when fishing close to lillies and I’ve not had a line break yet. But if the line does break, the olivette is held in place by float stops, which will slide along the line if snagged and allow the weight to come off. I hope this helps
What line do you use for your tench fishing?
It depends on the amount of weed and how close I’m fishing to lilies. To be honest, I’ve not found much difference using the lift method, so a minimum of 6lb line, but currently I’m using 8lb Daiwa Sensor straight through, which means I can stop tench getting into the lilies.
Thanks very much for the reply. Much appreciated
hi chris i use the same rig! do you balance the olivette agains the shotting of the float ie...2gram ollivette ..if the float takes 2 gram of loading...cheers...
Hi, I overshot the float and fish it over-depth, just tighten down so the the tip of the float is just showing. I trap the line under the rod rest rest, so when the float rises you know a fish has picked up your bait and lift the rod. Tight lines
@@tight.lines.chris.miller yeah same as!...just checking realy ..had a few bigish carp using the lift as well..john wilson style..of course...
rockdogization yes, if carp or bream move into the swim, you’ll catch these too. John Wilson was a true angling hero, sadly missed
Great video thank you very useful.
Great, I hope you found it helpful
Its good method on muddy lake bottom?
Yes, I filmed this at a very silty lake and the lift method works well, particularly if you use a neutral buoyancy bait like bread flake 🐟
What gram Olive is best?
Hi Matt, I use a 4g Drennan inline olivetter with a 3AAA driftbeater float. This sinks the float nicely, but is not too heavy when the tench picks up the bait
great vid mate. keep it up :)
Many thanks Sam, more videos to come - next one is how to create the lead free leader I use with feeders and leads, tight lines
Great video,
Glad you enjoyed it, tight lines
Can u use the type of floats with the rubbers
Hi Ted, I trap the float with rubber float stops either side of the eye on the float. This means you can change the depth without damaging the line, which can sometimes happen with split shot damaging the line when moved
What weight drennan drift beater are you using ?
Hi Paul, I use a 3AAA drift beater float and a 4g inline olivette which sinks it nicely, without being too heavy for the lift method. Tight lines
thank you!
No problem, I’m glad you enjoyed this video, tight lines
Does anyone know how long tench live?
Hi, not as long as carp who can survive for decades, I think tench generally live for about 15 to 20 years. Tight lines.
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