Zoom H5: how and why to use PHANTOM POWER

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  • @EmmaEryn
    @EmmaEryn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thank you for this!!!

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Emma McAllister thank you for the comment! And I'm just happy if the video was of any help 😊

  • @NomadHills
    @NomadHills ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet video, thank you!

  • @pyrablok9505
    @pyrablok9505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does a H5 require external phantom power like a NEEWER phantom power supply? If so, how do we fix it? Or is it powered entirely by batteries? Can we use rechargeable batteries?

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, the H5 provides the phantom power from the batteries in it.
      Yes, you can use rechargeable batteries like Eneloop with it. You can also power it via USB.

    • @pyrablok9505
      @pyrablok9505 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RogerinFinland may i ask what the specs are for your powerbank? how much voltage needed to power it?

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pyrablok9505 Not sure... I do have an old Anker, which I presume delivers 5V via USB, but I usually power the H5 with a phone charger plugged to the mains.

  • @B-S-K
    @B-S-K 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I use the H5 as well in combination with two Rode NT5. They can be driven with 24 or 48 Volts. Both do work. I noticed no sound difference except for that the batteries of the H5 are faster down, when using 48V (of course: more power consumption). A friend of mine suggested: better use 48V instead of 24V, because then there's low noise! Is that true? Can this be explained physically/electronically?

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi there! I'll try :) the voltage will affect how much gain do you need to add to reach certain level. The more gain you need to add, more noise. The less voltage, more gain, more noise.
      This was a simplification, but hopefully answers the question.
      And you could test that also. Same microphone, same source at same level and distance. Does the gain needed to get the same output level change? If not everything I said is s**t though 😂

    • @B-S-K
      @B-S-K 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RogerinFinland Really? I didn't notice that, when I tried that ... but I'll try again .... means: 48V is always better !! (?)

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haven't tested myself, but I should think so. Even if it works at 24v, most mics that requires phantom power they do have a value or a range. If it's one value, that should give best results, if it's a range, the highest.
      However, if 24v gives you good enough results and saves battery life, why not use it? ☺️
      Don't let the search for better/perfect get on the way of good enough! 👍🏻

  • @BenettGraezer
    @BenettGraezer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much!

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy to help! 👍🏻 And thanks for the comment!

  • @jbrien
    @jbrien 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you. I appreciate the fact that you mentioned using a power bank. Being dense, I never thought to use one. It looks like you plug the H5 into a typical Anker PowerCore. Is it just the 5v version for cell phones? (Liked the video.)

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, it's just their "normal" power bank. And you can also power it "from the wall". For that, same cable and just a normal phone charger works perfectly fine as well.

    • @mikcnmvedmsfonoteka
      @mikcnmvedmsfonoteka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I started using power banks shortly after I begin to use Zoom H5, it chews through batteries fast - I am using maximum settings, and if I have an outlet I am using, I also sometimes use H5 as a USB mic. Never used Phantom power on it I wanted to try but the microphone I wanted to test costs 2000 EUR

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I usually use it plugged into the wall.
      And I don't have any 2000 bucks to test either 😅

  • @lynneftw
    @lynneftw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, I *can* safely use the H5 phantom power to my Tech Zone Stellar X2 cardioid condenser mic when in a portable situation?

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that is a large condenser mic that requires 48v of phantom power, which the H5 is capable of delivering while on battery or USB power.
      The bigger challenge (in my opinion) of using large condenser mics in portable situation is the stand/mount combo. These microphones, as I understand, require more care and careful handling than, let's say, a singing dynamic mic.

  • @pyrablok9505
    @pyrablok9505 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Roger thanks for your earlier reply! Can we turn on both the AC adaptor (which comes along with it) and not take out the batteries? also can we use rechargeable batteries? must it only be Eneloop?

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, the USB power can be used even with the batteries inside. And I assume that any pair of AA rechargeable batteries will work, I just mentioned Eneloop because it's what I used on occasion.

  • @CaptSureshSharma
    @CaptSureshSharma ปีที่แล้ว

    I had switched on the power of my Azden Shotgun mic on Zoom H5 amd switched on Phantom Power also. I feel it blew something inside Zoom H5, I had to replace it. I want to understand why it blew it. I was supposed to switch off the Phantom Power of H5?

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In general Phantom power should be provided only to devices that need it. Otherwise one or both of the devices could be damaged) i.e. giving phantom power to a dynamic microphone.
      As to the question of "why", I'm not totally sure. Maybe some grounding or voltage mismatch between the devices?

    • @CaptSureshSharma
      @CaptSureshSharma ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RogerinFinland Thanks for your prompt response. I appreciate it very much.

  • @DevAcharya
    @DevAcharya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i’m really surprised by this audio,can u make a tutorial workflow of the audio recording equipments, recording ,settings and processing in premier or davinci for the youtube video,just got the zoom h5 for my youtube channel

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like a good idea for a video!!
      If I may ask, in what way did the audio surprise you?

    • @DevAcharya
      @DevAcharya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RogerinFinland The quality of the audio surprised me.its crisp and clear and so attractive to watch the video even if i’m not interested in the subject.
      My doubt/problem with TH-cam audio is not good enough nor not having good quality audio gears.So yesterday only i purchased zoom H5 and thinking of a XLR microphone for my TH-cam videos.which one do u suggest ? i can not invest like shotgun,frankly i’m in a budget friendly but i can increase my budget little more if the cheap one can’t make me feel happy.How to record audio(like24bit 48khz,settings) and gow to process in softwares to get like ur crispy audio etc,
      hope my english is good enough to make you understandable .thanks a lot for replying me

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I'll definitely will be making a video on my audio setup for TH-cam, but here is the very affordable microphone I almost always use: th-cam.com/video/vml8PqYZNHs/w-d-xo.html

  • @zizabrand6281
    @zizabrand6281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was helpful! Thank you.
    I use Shure SM7B for my in studio podcast and believe I need fantom power for those or it will not have any input. I will be using my H5 for field recording with 2 Shure SM48, is it true that I DO NOT need phantom power for those? Thi also answers the question of why my Zoom battery died while recording my last podcast! I know you use a power bank, can I plug the Zoom right into the wall to keep it charged during ym podcasts? Thanks again for all the help. I gave you a subscribe!

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi! The SM7B is a dynamic mic, so you don't need phantom power (same with the SM48).
      And yep, you can power it from the wall using a normal phone charger with a USB port. Quite practical ☺️

  • @bobbygotsch
    @bobbygotsch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great video. Thanks!

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it!! And many thanks for the comment!!

  • @randomperson1408
    @randomperson1408 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My mic has its own battery house, it works with 1.5V battery. Can I use it with phantom power Zoom H4n Pro ?

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some microphones do have the option of battery power so that they don't need phantom power (like the NTG4+).
      However they're designed to work with power, either the battery one or the phantom power from the recorder. I believe it's usually not recommended to use both at the same time.

    • @randomperson1408
      @randomperson1408 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RogerinFinland Okay, thanks for the quick answer. I'll try removing battery and use phantom power when my xlr to xlr cable finally arrives

  • @pyrablok9505
    @pyrablok9505 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Roger, do you suggest a rode NTG2 to go along with a H5? I heard many bad things about it!

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure why you are interested if you heard bad stuff about it :D
      Not sure actually as I haven't used it. I do own an NTG4+ and I'm happy with it, but I don't have anything similar to compare it.
      You could take a look at the Deity S2 also, they get good reviews. Again, I myself have no experience with them, even though I'd love to try.

  • @andobreslin8735
    @andobreslin8735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't get any audio on my speaker monitors when using balanced TRS cables to the Zoom H5. I'm hoping it's a simple case of not using the right settings. Any advice?

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you explain a bit more your setup? What are you plugging via TRS cables to the H5? And how are you then feeding the speaker monitors from the H5?
      Just an initial thought: if you are using TRS (stereo) cables plugged into the 1 and 2 combo inputs of the H5, not sure if that will work. Those inputs are mono after after all.

  • @pyrablok9505
    @pyrablok9505 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Roger, there is a video where some chap suggested to use a phantom supply solely for the ntg2 microphone (not the recorder), so that the preamp has less work to do and it actually helps with boosting the signal before it goes into the preamp port. Do you think that makes sense? having the h5 on phantom power and the ntg2 mic on phantom power too?

    • @pyrablok9505
      @pyrablok9505 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/451I5t0SKYo/w-d-xo.html this is the video

    • @RogerinFinland
      @RogerinFinland  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure. If the preamps are bad or noisy it might help, maybe? But what if the phantom power supply would add something nasty?
      I would give it a try if I would be unhappy with the NTG2 + H5 combination. I wouldn't add more complexity if I'm happy enough with the sound 👍🏼

  • @aritrogold84
    @aritrogold84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is awesome

  • @zizabrand6281
    @zizabrand6281 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also, Id love if you could check out my show and give me any constructive criticism! It's filmed with Sony A6400 and I do all the editing on Premiere Pro and Audition! Thanks!

  • @gilianfranciscogamla7280
    @gilianfranciscogamla7280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much!!!