What It Has Been Like To Own a Hybrid Subaru Crosstrek for 120k Miles
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ต.ค. 2019
- After going over 120k miles in our daily driven Subaru XV Crosstrek I wanted to detail all the issues we have had with it.
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Autotrader Article: www.autotrader.com/car-news/heres-what-its-been-own-hybrid-crossover-120000-miles-281474979945789
Fyi our 2020 gas only is getting nearly the same mpg as the hybrid 2016 we had
really?
Appreciate the share! I think yours is the ONLY video on TH-cam right now of an actual owner's long term / high mileage experience with the Crosstrek PHEV. Thank you for that!
Thanks for the kind words! Be sure to check out more of my content!
Thanks for the informative video - appreciate it!
Glad it was helpful!
All things consider this car survived pretty well for being a hybrid, dealing with snow, and long daily commutes
I hope it will continue surviving.
Thanks for this. I just purchased a 2014 crosstrek Xv with only 50,000 miles. This gave me a really good gauge on what to expect with its lifespan. It helps that I also drive 40+ miles a day for work, and I live in the western part of PA 😂
Glad it helped!
Replace that CVT fluid every 50k and it will last 2x longer.
Trade it in, our 2014 at 120k has had tons of repairs
Low mileage may not be a good thing: my 2014 have very low mileage because I mostly only drive short distance on local streets. My car has been mostly trouble free. The right front struct went bad making clunking noise and was replaced under warranty. I only change oils and filter when the maintenance light comes on. I have only needed to replace tires, batteries.
My car does light up all the yellow error lights on the dash. Reading the error code would show a few error codes. The clear the errors and restart the car and all errors are clear. When all errors light up, the only real problem is the hybrid battery indicator on the front lcd display show empty. Clearing the error codes restart the car and all back to normal. This would happen once a month.
Bought a 2015 hybrid 3 months ago with 200k kilometers. Last owner took amazing care of it, and so will I. Seems like they had the start/stop battery replaced by a subaru dealer along with wheel bearings. Glad i dont have to deal with those issues for the time being.
Id never pay full price for one of these but considering i snagged it for 12 grand im very happy with it. My own commute gets me around 5.6 litres per 100k (42mpg) per tank. Hope its been smooth sailing since you made this video.
We got rid of it as soon as possible.
Appreciate your article and post. I’m considering my first hybrid purchase (2021 Crosstrek). Is there any financial benefits worth mentioning (tax, fuel savings)?
I will say that the hybrid mentioned in the video was discontinued and then Subaru brought it back in a plug in hybrid version (this one is not plug in). No tax savings as it isn't a full on green vehicle, it is as green as a car is a performance car by adding a sport button. Fuel savings, this got a mpg or two over the standard one, but the best part was I might misquote the amount off the top of my head but the hybrid system added 20 hp more and 40 lb-ft of torque over standard.
I had my front axle fail as well, but around 63000. Seems like a common xv problem
Edit: if you hear clicking while you turn (probably more so while you accelerate through a turn like at a stoplight), take it in...
I have a friend who told me the same. After my pain with owning this Subaru, I think he tried to hide his issue as I would have said......TOLD YOU SO! lol
I’m considering buying one used. How closely did you stick to recommended maintenance schedule? Outside the usual oil changes and things of that nature.
Not so strict, I mean no car needs its oil changed every 3k miles except for the first one.
Have the same car. Same exact issues at 40,000ish thousand miles. Had to replace the wheel bearings, axles. Then got the rotten egg smell, check hybrid system, and had to replace all my batteries. Already at 54,000 miles and the start/stop quit working. Not a very high functioning car maybe compared to a Toyota but a good car nonetheless. I use it for rideshare so the plan is to drive it into the ground.
thanks for sharing your story. any other things gong on with it?
Thanks 🙏
you are welcome!
We're a shop in Colorado that has worked on many of these. Stay away from the 2014-16 Crosstrek Hybrids. If you want a Subaru from this era, just buy a regular one. Subaru's older Hybrid system is not reliable, especially when compared to Toyota Hybrids. Why do you think used RAV4 Hybrids sell for a lot more than used Crosstrek Hybrids?
This guy knows the problems I have had.
He's right our 2014 hybrid has cost a lot in repairs
@@acebrigade9586Did you experience any overheating?
What kind of problems?
I have this same car. I had the start stop battery go and a rear wheel bearing as well. I’m only at 70k miles.
long way ahead of you my friend!
You can’t save enough money on fuel to pay for new batteries which after removal are another problem.
Yeah it becomes a pain!
Thank you for this. I have been looking at 2015 Crosstrek XVs both Hybrid and non- Hybrid. I am possibly moving to Northern Ontario in the Autumn and need something a little more rugged than my current Toyota Prius C. The prime candidate I am looking at is a 2015 XV Hybrid with about 67,000 miles on it. It sounds like you have had a fairly positive experience with yours. I don't expect to get any great mileage improvement because of it being Hybrid, but I do worry about being stranded on the side of the road because of some weirdball Hybrid system error. Thoughts?
It won't leave you on the road. All the Hybrid wonky things I have had go wrong just limit power, still get you home.
Thank you.
My 2014 have not had any real hybrid problem. The check hybrid system light comes on because the 12V batteries were old and needed replacement. Once replaced, everything back the normal.
I own a 2013 Subaru Legacy. It now has almost 130,000 miles. For the first 119,000 miles nothing went wrong. Then the master brake cylinder failed ($500). At 122,000 we lost the rear wheel bearing (a known Subaru failing) which was another $500. At the same time the front McPherson struts went (another $1200). Fortunately, now at 129,800 nothing else has gone wrong at this point. Still, it is a pretty good reliable car because once you hit 120,000 the rubber seals start going on engines and transmissions. This has happened with every car I have owned (Toyota, Honda, GM, and Subaru). I think the first oil seal, around the oil cooler, will need replacing which will cost me another $500. It is just regular maintenance you need as a car ages, nothing too major. However the Subaru battery is bought from Toyota as this is the first generation hybrid system. Makes it more expensive to fix.
Yeah 100k has seemed to be the marker for things to go wrong on Subarus.
Interesting about the rubber seals. For me, no rubber seals have EVER gone bad on any of my Honda and Toyota cars, and I usually buy them at 60-90K miles and then drive them over 200K miles (I've bought a few new ones too). There's a few issues here and there like a timing chain tensioner and starter in an old Corolla that was over 220K miles, and also a power steering module at 140K miles in a 2013 Honda Accord (replaced with junkyard unit). I've recently moved to a hilly location in a place with a wintry climate and am looking for a Subaru, but I'm not wanting the problems that appear to come with them at 100K+ miles.
What kind of drive terrain?
I only drive my 2014 on street and freeway. No off road. Only front right struct went bad and replaced under warranty. No other mechanical problems.
If the hybird battery is anything like the Prius hybird batter they are pretty easy to diagnose a bad cell and replace the cell.
thanks for the info
Not just that, but ebay has them for $300-700
How did your 12v batteries hold up? we traded our 2016 to avoid having to replace them @ $300 for the start and $800 for the accessory battery. It was disappointing that the hybrid trades at a discount to the non hybrid.
Ha commented too soon.
Hmm. You would have over spent my friend at $300 and $800. My stop/start battery blew itself leaking acid everywhere (look for a short video on my channel from a few months ago) I bought a replacement Duracell battery for $227 and then my AUX battery was cranking rough, so I swapped in a Optima Red Top for $182.
@@DannyDrives still over $400. We got way more than gtp price on our trade. And the 2020 is better in every way than our hybrid.
@@DannyDrives so over a year later the 1mpg difference remains. We got a heckuva trade in price just as sales were slowing down, don't regret the upgrade at all, eyesight and Android auto as well as x mode were well worth it
I had hybrid system error light up and it was due to old batteries. Don’t know which one as mine have two. I replaced both and no more problem.
Mine had 3. Two in the front and the big in the back
@@DannyDrives mine is the same. And after almost 10 years, the health of the big battery in the back is 47% according to odb2 reading.
I just bought a black 2015 Crosstrek XV Hybrid Touring recently.. same exact car lol. It has 86,000 miles on it, would you personally recommend I invest in an extended warranty? The best option I’ve come across is $3300 for 5yrs/100,000 mi, bumper to bumper. I’m also curious what the cost of repairs has been for you so far including the wheel bearing issue.
*Axel issue not wheel bearing
Honestly no. This thing has been a pain in my butt so far, but I haven't spend $3300 in 5 years.
Is your warranty for 100,000 miles you drive so you get a warranty until 186k? Might want to check some places give you time and mileage, but the mileage is of the vehicle, so your case your only covered for 14k more miles.
I figured you meant that.
Thanks for the reply! The warranty would be until I hit 186k.
Gotcha, then hmmm. I am coming to 150k now and still haven't spent $3300. I cannot imagine I will in 30k miles either, but I am just 1 example.
How was the 5000 mile maintenance? Did you take it to the dealership for maintenance? Thanks.
5000 mile maintenance? What maintenance are you referring. There isn't anything that needs to be maintenance at 5k miles on a brand new vehicle with the exception of an oil change. Anyone that says otherwise is trying to rip you off.
Hi Danny. What is the name of the aftermarket warranty company? I can't find a good one.
Oh it was through CarMax.
I own a 2013 crosstrek with 95k miles. Bought it at 40k. So far had to replace both rear wheel bearing, front ball joint, heated seat switch. Still running like a champ and slow as a potato. Knock on 🪵
Thanks for sharing, good luck!
Normally cars start to break down at 100t thats why they have warranty at that point
truth
I suppose the big question would be if you would buy it again or not? The new Crosstrek Plug In is a little more efficient in the EV mode department
Probably not lol
The new ones use a planetary CVT from Toyota and a lot of Toyota tech. It’s a much smarter design if you’re happier with the size of the car. And it plugs in so you can do city stuff under full EV mode. Personally I wish they’d have a Forester or Outback Hybrid.
Wait..... is that battery by chance an S46B24R? I have a friend wtih two prii that I've changed. Advance Auto has them for about $200-$250. IF you want to find one easier, it's a 12v battery for the 2008 Toyota Prius with the smart key access system.
The spare I bought was Duracell DUR-9A51P
@@DannyDrives ahhh ok. A Group 51 battery is the main option for a 4 cylinder Honda as well.
How’s she holding up? Any new issues after the video post?
It held up horrendously. We sold it to CarMax in Nov 2021 when it was approaching 150k miles. It began throwing codes two days before we planned on selling it.
Danny, do you have the DuraCell Battery part number for the Crosstrek helper battery?
I assume by helper you mean the AUX battery. I put a Duracell DUR-9A51P in it.
Is it true you can leave the seatbelt on and leave the climate control on the whole night because it runs from the hybrid battery. And the engine comes on every hour to charge the hybrid battery for the climate control?
I have not tested it that way. I am not sure the real world application to do that.
@@DannyDrives look up Prius camping!
a bad bearing and another bad bearing due to the boot rotting away.. at over 100k. I don't think older cars are better, you've just been lucky. But, why wasn't your mechanic catching these things during PA inspection? I've had plenty of boots need replaced but it's usually caught before the grease washes away and the bearing itself fails. Anyway, appreciate the long term review on the hybrid!
Guess it is all why I don't own a Subaru anymore nor will
Any updates to this video. Do you still have it?
Nah I sold it to CarMax in 2021 for a Toyota 4Runner.
Wait the fan was at the lowest why didn't it engage start stop?
the mysteries of the Crosstrek! haha sometimes it works right sometimes it does not
“My fleet” gag
your problem is?
UUuggghhh! I am trying to find the safest car for my daughter which brought me to this vehicle! So safe but crappy great!
I will never buy again
Loosing start/stop is a good thing! Well on any gas car.
haha I agree, but not when it is a failure of something lol
What was it when you had the hybrid warning light problem … what did they replaced in order for it to be fixed ???
"They" didn't replace anything I did it all. It was warnings telling me the aux battery was eating itself. The vehicle has 3x batteries. Normal sized car battery, a secondary aux battery like 3/4ths the size of the normal car battery, and the hybrid battery in the back.
@@DannyDrives I have a 2014 hybrid crosstrek and been trying to figure out what cause the hybrid light to come on … I have been reading Subaru Fourms and some say it’s the alternator and I thought so at first but I am beginning to suspect that it’s not the case because it has nothing to do with the hybrid system and alternator is giving out right voltage, and all three batteries appear to be fine. Then I read some other websites saying that it could be the inverter ??? The hybrid warning light tend to come on when the gas cut off at a stop or when car is slowing to a stop then when (EV) indicator pops up then the “hybrid warning light appears then the car barely move so it moved slowly on electric motor not at full power then it ask me to restart and it when back to normal again … so it starts problem when after that (EV) indicator appears on the dashboard …. I was wondering if you know any solutions if you had that similar problem ??? Or what I need to check and fix ???
@@DannyDrives I have a 2014 hybrid crosstrek and been trying to figure out what cause the hybrid light to come on … I have been reading Subaru Fourms and some say it’s the alternator and I thought so at first but I am beginning to suspect that it’s not the case because it has nothing to do with the hybrid system and alternator is giving out right voltage, and all three batteries appear to be fine. Then I read some other websites saying that it could be the inverter ??? The hybrid warning light tend to come on when the gas cut off at a stop or when car is slowing to a stop then when (EV) indicator pops up then the “hybrid warning light appears then the car barely move so it moved slowly on electric motor not at full power then it ask me to restart and it when back to normal again … so it starts problem when after that (EV) indicator appears on the dashboard and when it’s been driven for a bit (it didn’t happen when I first drive it for the first time for the day so the (EV) and start- stop was fine) …. I was wondering if you know any solutions if you had that similar problem ??? Or what I need to check and fix ???
What year is this? We're looking at a 2019 phev
2015
I have a question for hybrid owners. I’m looking to buy a hybrid crosstrek to use for car camping. I’m wondering if I can park and sleep while using climate control. Can this be done? If so, would the engine automatically cycle off and on to maintain the battery?
Mainly needing the AC as I live in the south and want to be able to sleep at night with the AC on.
You would have to leave the car on.
You would have to leave the car on.
@@DannyDrives to clarify, when you say I’d need to leave the car on- are you saying the combustion engine needs to be running constantly to use the AC? Sorry, I’m not familiar with hybrids.
Does the ac run off they hybrid battery?
No, anytime I ran the AC it kicked the gas on. It might have ran on the battery for a little, but any serious blowing it would kick gas on.
@@DannyDrives what about leaving it on ready mode and leaving ac on
The hybrid version of the XV/crosstrek is not worth it, only very minimal fuel economy gains out on the open highway fuel cycle (0.6lrs/100kms) $6000 more and the fuel tank is 15 litres less so you get less range per tank on a hybrid than a NA 2.0 non hybrid engine.
If I recall it added 1 mpg for an over complicated system. If anything the performance gain was better than the mpg gain.
@@DannyDrives there was no economy gain or hp gain.
It was 1mpg and 40 horsepower for about 40 lbs of weight if I recall.
How long is your wife's daily commute?
1 hr to 1 hr 30 min. 50+ miles each way.
Wow no wonder why you blasted through that warranty
Demolished the warranty mileage
can we make this more concise? lol damn!
Concise version - Don't buy it.
my cmax has 202, 000 miles and no issues
you got lucky!
@@DannyDrives well new york city hybrid escapes easily go 300-400 thousand miles......
Thinking of buying a 2015 Subaru Crosstrek XV Hybrid with 72k miles and trading my 2013 Toyota Prius V wagon with 87k miles. Do you think this is a good deal?
I can never in good faith recommend this vehicle to anyone.
@@DannyDrives Thanks for the reply, but why is that and a good reason? Is it a bad vehicle?
Well in the video I tell you all the problems I had with it.
Thanks for the info, with that said I will stay with my 2013 Prius V. Any recommendation for an AWD hybrid?
At this point, I just am against hybrids. I don't want to recommend you any hybrid. Under warranty none of my problems matter, but after 30k miles, its all your problem.
man that was long winded, thanks for doing the video but maybe timestamps or chapters in the video would help find the content faster
Thanks, this was very early in my content creation
Up date your gps
what do you mean?
Talking steering wheel makes a boring video
Better than my face
@@DannyDrives Now that's funny! Thanks for the honest eval (of the car that is). I am trying to decide whether to skip the hybrid or not. I would be looking at a 2022 model. It sounds like I should just stay with the gasoline version.