Arthur was and represented the gang’s _life bar._ It sadly diminished unknowingly and permanently a little bit each time at every new camp established. It was totally full at Horseshoe Overlook and was miserably in the red once at doomed Beaver Hollow. Like himself dying, the gang didn’t have much time left to live. Those who voluntarily left weren’t cowards and probably made the best decision of their lives!
I feel like once Arthur started to grow sicker and sicker the gang also started to die out slowly, I mean without the happy positive Morgan the gang was also kinda dead@@KishorTwist
It's actually quite nice of uncle. He first speaks to Arthur for comfort and advice in worrisome times and after Arthur gives his response uncle seems to worry about him the most in that moment.
Both had serious illnesses Dutch ignored and when he didn't ignore them he just pointed them out to make them seem useless when both were once legendary gunslingers the one shot kid and van-der-linde's most trusted associate both had their career's ended by illness and yet both died protecting their families it's kind of sad to think if Arthur was still alive and never found out that Micah was a rat and John didn't survive he'd still be with Dutch but they'd see him as a burden it's kinda sad how Dutch refused to admit he's the bad guy
@abhirupkundu2778 suppression =/= mature Control = mature If you don't face your emotions to understand yourself and others, you will always remain inmature xd, it's logic
In Chapter 2 Uncle told Arthur he is a sad man, in Chapter 3 he told him he was a sick man, then at Chapter 6 he told him he was a good man... Out of all the characters, Uncle is the only one who saw right through Dutch right from the beginning. Call him lazy, boring, whatever, but he was on his own since he was 9, and if we assume he is around 60-70, that's a lot of time to be alone (had a wife though). After Arthur, Hosea, and John, Uncle is by far my favorite character. :)
This hit hard when I first got this. Arthur, like Hosea, received the wisdom to realize their wrongdoings and try to redeem himself but at a hefty price. He didn't have the choice to live anymore, only to let others see that rather than die for *nonsense sprouted by a fool.*
As sad as it is, Hosea being shot fatally in the chest by Agent Milton during a failed bank heist was not Hosea’s redemption. I’m sure he made peace with himself a long time ago and was ready to die, though
Hosea as odd as it seemed did not need or seek redemption, he was the moral compass of the gang and even got the gang to help people back in the day, he was simply just old, he was having trouble breathing before he got killed but his family had already passed, hosea knew where he stood always, arthur having been raised by dutch didn't really have that luxury@@littleaqua32
“I’m literally dying, and I know I give you a lot of crap, but I’m just trying to help people out now.” “Although I joke around a lot with you, you truly are a good person.” “Ok. Guess I’ll see you later then😐” Epic way to end a heartfelt talk.
"People gonna have to make a choice. Whether they live.. or die" "And you?" "I dont have that choice no more" Man, the end of chapter 5 and throughout Chapter 6, when Arthur realizes hes dying quickly and that the whole gang thing is dead in the water, is some of the most badass story telling of a single protagonist ever. Loyal arthur telling everyone whats gonna go down, to run away and never look back. Knowing hes gonna die either by agents, tb, or his own brothers. Just wants to help everyone make better of their lives. Like that moment where he basically tells Sadie hes a ghost already and to run away with johns family once he comes in and blows the roof off of the whole operation
He didn't say that, because this is no longer chapter 2 or chapter 3, where the gang had peace and prosperity, terms they've lost long ago. In chapter 6, everyone in the gang knew that everything would go straight to hell, even Jack knew.
I like to think Arthur wanted John and his family out because he was concerned about little Jack the most, and my head canon is after killing agent Ross, Jack went away and started a new life maybe even becoming a writer. This makes Arthur's sacrifice even more meaningful.
Yeah I think you're right cause in GTA 5 there is a book called Red dead that can be found and the authors name was J Marston, so I also believe Jack became a writer
"What's going to happen, you know... to everybody?" That heartfelt concern Uncle had for others got to me. To me. That exchange (and a few others) really hammered down that the fun was over. There was no more luck and no more fun. Either two things were going to happen. Either conform to society and the laws of the land, or die.
@@abhirupkundu2778"What plan, Dutch? What goddamn plan?" Even Dutch didn't knew what he was doing. He wanted money for himself and wasn't even subtle about it. He would've killed everyone in the gang if that would get him some extra cash, and he almost did that with Arthur himself. All of this because he let Micah get too close to him. Ik your comment was a joke, but i still needed to say it
We all just love the housebuilding scene of uncle, john and charles and now I see its because of all these downward vibes we got from chapter 6, it makes the house building scene feels like a fresh breeze of air after the long torture of story ending.
Yeah, I play as Arthur and already feel playing as John on his lonely voyages. No gang, no robberies. Just John chasing criminals or doing side quests in the bright Lemoyne sun
When Jack was saying that he hoped people didn't fight anymore, I realize how hard it hurt. Seeing Uncle Arthur coughing. Seeing "Uncles" Dutch, Javier, and Bill treat his parents and everyone around him with hostility. Seeing people who he loved as Uncles and Aunties leaving or dying. Poor Jack Marston.
"im just trying to help others see clearly" Reminds me why i chose high honor go for the money ending I believed it was most befitting Arthur's character to attempt to secure John's portion of the money for his family, even if only to die the moment it touches John's hand. To secure his brothers future and in so doing possibly confront Dutch in one last futile attempt to make him see the truth. And if literally nothing else to stick a knife in that snake Micah's eye. A beautiful bit of symbolism. He who blinded others to the truth of his nature shall be blinded in kind. Eye for an eye indeed
From my point of view the money was not worth it, what was the point if they didn't get out of there alive? I understand what you're saying and what it meant but at that moment Micah, Dutch and the rest didn't matter, they were only interested in getting out of there to that John can be with his family, at least tit for tat was only a game for fools from Arthur's side.
@@Policianticadenas thing is Arthur was dying. From my perspective "revenge is a fools game" no longer applies to Arthur and imo he knew it. Therefore Arthur possibly would take the chance to grab the money for John since he's dying and has accepted it. Granted it's somewhat meta gaming from the players perspective because we know John will escape. Basically I just think Arthur would've done everything he could to help John including going to get his share of the money for him so he won't struggle like he did in the epilogue
In my opinion, Clemen's Point was the peak of the gang. It was the highest POINT of the camp. But Beaver Hollow, well, if the names mean anything, is just so...lifeless. dead. Hollow
Out of everyone in this game, I feel the most for Jack. He doesn't really know what's going on. The whole gang is his family, and in the end, they're all at each other's throats.
One of rhe few games that make you feel the pain of the character.Whem Arhur passed away I was sad for weeks.This is a masterpiece,more than a simple game,an interactive story where we are as much characters as we are spectators.Rest in peace Arthur Morgan,you earned your rest
I can’t believe this game is already nearly 6 years old. It is still my favorite game of all time, and imo about as close to perfect as a game could be. I still am discovering things I’ve never seen or heard of before. No matter what other games I play, I always find myself coming back to this one.
One wonders how things would have turned out if 3 major things were different; 1) Dutch decided to LAY LOW and not try for any big scores (like robbing banks) and thus didn't draw attention to himself and the gang. 2) Arthur never went to see Mr. Downs and thus didn't get TB and 3) they LEFT Micah's snake @$$ hang in Strawberry. He only rode with the gang for a year and his venom poisoned an already fragile Dutch
Man, this lines of Arthur, Uncle and Jack being a child between all the problems the gang had for those moments make the Chapter 6 the most saddest part of the game and of a game in videogames history
The only game thats hit me in the feels. These scene and a few others are touching, Rockstar went above with this game, Arthur Uncle and John live through Jack Marston. 🤝🍻
He starts talking to jack, like he knows what TB is, imagine though, if Jack knew what TB was, he would be crying I bet, seeing jack cry would be so depressing😊
I’m doing a second, low honor, play through, I feel bad that I got Javier to hate me, unless he’s always distant, or maybe it’s the topic of conversation? Arthur says something like it must be hard to be far from home and he says “yeah, see you later”
MESSAGE : Tomorrow isn't promised to anyone, and once we realize and truly care enough to understand that we will start to live and spend time with your love one's and your children...
What we do in-game is not canon anyway, dialogues occur according to your honor just before the conversation start. After that, the dialogue remains history, whatever you do after doesn't affect anything that occurred during and before the dialogue. I know you were joking, but this joke has been used since 6 yrs and its getting annoying.
Uncle is a good man... after all, he died protecting John's family
He may have had a bad back but he had a good heart
@@Zghost276 and a chronically yellow spot on his beard
Took one right in the lumbago...
Wait a second , i thought he died of that terminal lumbago
@@DrKludi did the bullet enhanced it
Usually arthurs “well ill catch you later then” are so bright and full on energy… now he just sounds given up hope on everything.
Arthur was and represented the gang’s _life bar._
It sadly diminished unknowingly and permanently a little bit each time at every new camp established. It was totally full at Horseshoe Overlook and was miserably in the red once at doomed Beaver Hollow.
Like himself dying, the gang didn’t have much time left to live. Those who voluntarily left weren’t cowards and probably made the best decision of their lives!
@@KishorTwistarthur would likely wants them to ran off too
@@colgateafrica5484 He flat out said such to Trelawney when he finds him running off.
I feel like once Arthur started to grow sicker and sicker the gang also started to die out slowly, I mean without the happy positive Morgan the gang was also kinda dead@@KishorTwist
Well, he's dying of tuberculosis, so can you blame him?
It's actually quite nice of uncle. He first speaks to Arthur for comfort and advice in worrisome times and after Arthur gives his response uncle seems to worry about him the most in that moment.
Both had serious illnesses Dutch ignored and when he didn't ignore them he just pointed them out to make them seem useless when both were once legendary gunslingers the one shot kid and van-der-linde's most trusted associate both had their career's ended by illness and yet both died protecting their families it's kind of sad to think if Arthur was still alive and never found out that Micah was a rat and John didn't survive he'd still be with Dutch but they'd see him as a burden it's kinda sad how Dutch refused to admit he's the bad guy
Me: *Holding back tears because of Uncle and Arthur's exchange*
Jack: "I hope people don't fight anymore this morning"
Me: *Sobbing uncontrollably*
weak emotional control
@@abhirupkundu2778 okay sigma
@@abhirupkundu2778 you will destroy yourself by keeping your emotions bottled up. Its not manly to be emotionally immature.
@abhirupkundu2778 suppression =/= mature
Control = mature
If you don't face your emotions to understand yourself and others, you will always remain inmature xd, it's logic
In Chapter 2 Uncle told Arthur he is a sad man, in Chapter 3 he told him he was a sick man, then at Chapter 6 he told him he was a good man... Out of all the characters, Uncle is the only one who saw right through Dutch right from the beginning. Call him lazy, boring, whatever, but he was on his own since he was 9, and if we assume he is around 60-70, that's a lot of time to be alone (had a wife though). After Arthur, Hosea, and John, Uncle is by far my favorite character. :)
This hit hard when I first got this. Arthur, like Hosea, received the wisdom to realize their wrongdoings and try to redeem himself but at a hefty price. He didn't have the choice to live anymore, only to let others see that rather than die for *nonsense sprouted by a fool.*
As sad as it is, Hosea being shot fatally in the chest by Agent Milton during a failed bank heist was not Hosea’s redemption. I’m sure he made peace with himself a long time ago and was ready to die, though
Hosea as odd as it seemed did not need or seek redemption, he was the moral compass of the gang and even got the gang to help people back in the day, he was simply just old, he was having trouble breathing before he got killed but his family had already passed, hosea knew where he stood always, arthur having been raised by dutch didn't really have that luxury@@littleaqua32
@@littleaqua32 I agree, he had long since come to terms with his mortality, his was just a death, no redemption needed, he was a good guy
Damn i swear this guys on every red dead video
Housea was a con man. Not some saint
Maybe Uncle was a no good lazy parasite. But in the end he died with a gun in his hand defending people he loved. Better than most ways people die
He knew he'd die defending John's family, and he didn't care. He wanted them to live.
Arthur may have been joking, but i do think he meant it when he said "you're my favorite parasite"
Uncle is the kind of guy that is just despicable superfically. But when the time comes, he shows to be a good person and makes the correct decisions.
He'll put on the mask of a horrible person but in reality he's a better man then anyone you'll ever know
@@theenderdestruction2362He annoys the shit out of you, but he’ll always be a day one best friend.
He always has been. He stuck by the gang despite his debilitating lumbago.
That's the thing about Uncle, he's a joker but he does really care and it shows since he done for John what Arthur did for well John.
“I’m literally dying, and I know I give you a lot of crap, but I’m just trying to help people out now.”
“Although I joke around a lot with you, you truly are a good person.”
“Ok. Guess I’ll see you later then😐”
Epic way to end a heartfelt talk.
"People gonna have to make a choice. Whether they live.. or die"
"And you?"
"I dont have that choice no more"
Man, the end of chapter 5 and throughout Chapter 6, when Arthur realizes hes dying quickly and that the whole gang thing is dead in the water, is some of the most badass story telling of a single protagonist ever. Loyal arthur telling everyone whats gonna go down, to run away and never look back. Knowing hes gonna die either by agents, tb, or his own brothers. Just wants to help everyone make better of their lives. Like that moment where he basically tells Sadie hes a ghost already and to run away with johns family once he comes in and blows the roof off of the whole operation
This hits hard…
I reloaded the ch 6 save file and this is the first convo I got.. Ch 6 is hell
God this hits me RIGHT In the feels 😭
I was kinda hoping uncle would say “well I got L U M B A G O” then it would be funny and less sad
He didn't say that, because this is no longer chapter 2 or chapter 3, where the gang had peace and prosperity, terms they've lost long ago. In chapter 6, everyone in the gang knew that everything would go straight to hell, even Jack knew.
I like to think Arthur wanted John and his family out because he was concerned about little Jack the most, and my head canon is after killing agent Ross, Jack went away and started a new life maybe even becoming a writer. This makes Arthur's sacrifice even more meaningful.
I think canonically jack lived until the 90s
Yeah I think you're right cause in GTA 5 there is a book called Red dead that can be found and the authors name was J Marston, so I also believe Jack became a writer
@@juh2445 that means he lived to be about 100 something.
hopefully he ran into his Zombie Pa at one point or another.
Uncle was lazy and a drunk but he was a good man he didnt want anything bad to happen to his family and he proves it in rdr1
Chapters 1-5: Red Dead Redemption 2
Chapter 6: Red Dead Depression 2
"What's going to happen, you know... to everybody?"
That heartfelt concern Uncle had for others got to me.
To me. That exchange (and a few others) really hammered down that the fun was over. There was no more luck and no more fun. Either two things were going to happen. Either conform to society and the laws of the land, or die.
All because Dutch and Micah had a plan.
@@abhirupkundu2778"What plan, Dutch? What goddamn plan?" Even Dutch didn't knew what he was doing. He wanted money for himself and wasn't even subtle about it. He would've killed everyone in the gang if that would get him some extra cash, and he almost did that with Arthur himself. All of this because he let Micah get too close to him.
Ik your comment was a joke, but i still needed to say it
1:01 was the saddest "guess ill se ya later than" in whole game
We all just love the housebuilding scene of uncle, john and charles and now I see its because of all these downward vibes we got from chapter 6, it makes the house building scene feels like a fresh breeze of air after the long torture of story ending.
Yeah, I play as Arthur and already feel playing as John on his lonely voyages. No gang, no robberies. Just John chasing criminals or doing side quests in the bright Lemoyne sun
When Jack was saying that he hoped people didn't fight anymore, I realize how hard it hurt. Seeing Uncle Arthur coughing. Seeing "Uncles" Dutch, Javier, and Bill treat his parents and everyone around him with hostility. Seeing people who he loved as Uncles and Aunties leaving or dying. Poor Jack Marston.
Beaver Hollow was just a bummer from start to finish
Beaver Hollow is depressing and the most unwelcoming camp on the game
I like Uncle. He's lazy, but he's funny and he seems like he actually cares.
he's rockstars version of sans
He proves that he cares in RDR1
0:56 “I hope people don’t fight anymore this morning” I feel bad for the boy
uncle be like "I GOT LUMBAGO" starts raving
"I don't have that choice no more..."
"im just trying to help others see clearly"
Reminds me why i chose high honor go for the money ending
I believed it was most befitting Arthur's character to attempt to secure John's portion of the money for his family, even if only to die the moment it touches John's hand.
To secure his brothers future and in so doing possibly confront Dutch in one last futile attempt to make him see the truth.
And if literally nothing else to stick a knife in that snake Micah's eye. A beautiful bit of symbolism. He who blinded others to the truth of his nature shall be blinded in kind.
Eye for an eye indeed
From my point of view the money was not worth it, what was the point if they didn't get out of there alive? I understand what you're saying and what it meant but at that moment Micah, Dutch and the rest didn't matter, they were only interested in getting out of there to that John can be with his family, at least tit for tat was only a game for fools from Arthur's side.
@@Policianticadenas thing is Arthur was dying. From my perspective "revenge is a fools game" no longer applies to Arthur and imo he knew it. Therefore Arthur possibly would take the chance to grab the money for John since he's dying and has accepted it. Granted it's somewhat meta gaming from the players perspective because we know John will escape.
Basically I just think Arthur would've done everything he could to help John including going to get his share of the money for him so he won't struggle like he did in the epilogue
Uncle knew Arthur is a good man and one of the good ones and is genuinely worried about him like
In my opinion, Clemen's Point was the peak of the gang. It was the highest POINT of the camp. But Beaver Hollow, well, if the names mean anything, is just so...lifeless. dead. Hollow
Actually, after saving Trelawny, the camp has reached it’s peak population
"well it aint as bad as lumbago arthur. Its a slow and painful death"
Out of everyone in this game, I feel the most for Jack. He doesn't really know what's going on. The whole gang is his family, and in the end, they're all at each other's throats.
I never antagonize uncle, he might be a lazy mf, but he always proved to be a good man, after all he died protecting john’s family
He's the most wise man in that camp
Uncle may be a bit of a leech at times but the man genuinely and truly cares
Me: **holding back tears**
Jack: "i hope people don't fight anymore this morning"
Me: 💥💥💥💥
One of rhe few games that make you feel the pain of the character.Whem Arhur passed away I was sad for weeks.This is a masterpiece,more than a simple game,an interactive story where we are as much characters as we are spectators.Rest in peace Arthur Morgan,you earned your rest
I can’t believe this game is already nearly 6 years old. It is still my favorite game of all time, and imo about as close to perfect as a game could be. I still am discovering things I’ve never seen or heard of before. No matter what other games I play, I always find myself coming back to this one.
One wonders how things would have turned out if 3 major things were different; 1) Dutch decided to LAY LOW and not try for any big scores (like robbing banks) and thus didn't draw attention to himself and the gang. 2) Arthur never went to see Mr. Downs and thus didn't get TB and 3) they LEFT Micah's snake @$$ hang in Strawberry. He only rode with the gang for a year and his venom poisoned an already fragile Dutch
Damn, Jack had to make me tear up, huh?
So much heartbreak from one game 😭
What did Jack said explain how bad is the situation in beaver Hollow
Living or dying, got to move on in a better place.
Love the touching effect of Fire In Your Eyes playing in the back
Ch 6 depresses me
Oh yeah a lot of tension with In the camp
@@ctkelley27Red Dead Depression
I remember this encounter on my second playthrough. Hit me right in the feels.
on my first playthrough it was a whole different world for me when arthur was diagonosed with tuberkulose the game felt different
Arthur was a good man.
Uncle is like a mixture of Hosea and Bill - Old and dumb but also wise
Uncle was actually a chill ass guy
Man, this lines of Arthur, Uncle and Jack being a child between all the problems the gang had for those moments make the Chapter 6 the most saddest part of the game and of a game in videogames history
Red dead redemption 2 master peace ❤😢 best game ever
So kind of Uncle not to bring up his own life threatening illness
It's 10 am thank you for make my cry
Maybe some of us like depressing shit and didn't cry every opportunity we had 💀
same buddy. Some people are emotionally strong as hell because they already seen shit.
The moment that got me was when i met mickey in Valentine and after we conversed i said to myself "I'm going to die soon".
The only game thats hit me in the feels. These scene and a few others are touching, Rockstar went above with this game, Arthur Uncle and John live through Jack Marston. 🤝🍻
Colter: some hope
Horseshoe overlook: New hope
clemens point: more hope
shady belle: little hope
gurama: hollow hope
Beavers hollow: no hope
He starts talking to jack, like he knows what TB is, imagine though, if Jack knew what TB was, he would be crying I bet, seeing jack cry would be so depressing😊
Was never mean to Uncle because I remember in RDR1 he died trying to protect John and his family.
Uncle and Arthur are good man
When Uncle is worried you know you should be really worried.
I’m doing a second, low honor, play through, I feel bad that I got Javier to hate me, unless he’s always distant, or maybe it’s the topic of conversation?
Arthur says something like it must be hard to be far from home and he says “yeah, see you later”
Broken Heart
"YOU'RE A GOOD MAN"
He's got lumbago, he's not a monster
"Its a serious condition"
Uncle. 1907
“I’m dying too Arthur. I got LUMBAGO.”
Chapter 6 is the reason i have severe type 2 depression
Imagine if uncle said “sounds bad but not as bad as Lumbago”
MESSAGE : Tomorrow isn't promised to anyone, and once we realize and truly care enough to understand that we will start to live and spend time with your love one's and your children...
And he got lumbago 😔
Uncle was lazy and slow in times, but, uncle does care and a good character
Everyone favourite sloth 🦥
0:49 0:56
“Alright, catch ya later then!”
Lumbago is no joke.
I’m so pissed I never got this camp event.
The darkest chapter for Van der Linde Gang's, no fun at all, even the backsound and the surround ambience is so stressful for me😑
"You are a good man Arthur Morgan.. a good man."
*arthur- procceeds to feed npc's to alligators
What we do in-game is not canon anyway, dialogues occur according to your honor just before the conversation start. After that, the dialogue remains history, whatever you do after doesn't affect anything that occurred during and before the dialogue. I know you were joking, but this joke has been used since 6 yrs and its getting annoying.
Uncle is such a meme but he have a good heard bro was in rdr 2 also old💀💀💀
RDR2 doesn’t feel like a game…it feels like a life we all lived once upon a time and the characters were all people we knew.
Can somebody tell me what that music in the background is from/called?
Mountain hymm Or See the fire in your eyes
@@AshwinY thank you! That music's beautiful! 🤟⛪🖤
uncle has something much worse...
chapter 2 OKAY I'LL CATCH YOU LATER THEN! chapter 6 ok guess i see you later then...
NOT THE SAD MUSIC
Why Abigail talk to me like this, not uncle
JOHN 3:16
FOR GOD SO LOVE THE WORLD, THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHALL NOT PERISH, BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE
Who is real men? Arthur, Uncle, John
And Charles
Sean, too, he probably would've sided with John and Arthur if he lived
😢
Good man
Honestly him and hosea would have easily led the gang better than Dutch
Hosea as leader would of been very interesting
Man why do I even watch these videos. Only making me sad and shit….
Is he RED HARLOW?🤔
What’s the background music?
Fire in your eyes. It's an OST form the game credits
@@bizarre_jaco thanks
Uncle should have been in american venom
Uncle is so lazy but damn he's intelligent 😅
👁👁
👄 LUMBAGO ! !
What is the song in the background
That's the way it is
@@AshwinYnvm I found it It’s Actually moonlight It’s in the soundtrack it’s beautiful
But I appreciate ur help thank you!
@@TTValove727 oh sry. It's mountain hymn (see the fire in your eyes)
@@AshwinY I use Apple Music and one if the soundtrack playlists has it called Moonlight
0:11 LUMBAGO!
You use that hat too
Why is Jack sad?
play the game?
one with the tuberculosis and the other with the..
L U M B A G O